Swaps to Drops: 4 Ways to Level Great Buildings in Forge of Empires
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- Опубліковано 7 лип 2024
- Do you wish you could level your great buildings faster? Today, we (with the help of Mandrubar!?) explore some of the best ways to level your great buildings! So from swaps to 1.9, we go over it all! Even skilled players might learn something new! In total, we'll be covering self-leveling, swap threads, the Reverse Triangle method, and Drop Threads (aka 1.9, 1.8, 1.x, or 1.92 threads)
Reverse Triangle: forum.us.forgeofempires.com/i...
FoE 1.9 Calc, other tools: foe.tools/
All my guides/info: resite.link/ubernerd14
Timestamps:
0:00 Prelude
0:21 Self Leveling
1:01 Swaps
2:07 Reverse Triangle
4:10 1.9 (Drop Threads)
4:25 How 1.9 Works
5:52 Tips for 1.9
6:33 Sweet Spots
6:59 Conclusion
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Forge of Empires is an award-winning and free-to-play RTS MMO city-building game developed by InnoGames GmbH. It was released for browser in 2012, with mobile versions being released in 2014 (iOS) and 2015 (Android). - Ігри
Level 80… the most common place to pause at when building an arc. Then once you realize the power in having more than 1.9, you keep leveling.
Still, it's extremely diminishing returns. At level 100, say, you're only making about 1 FP per hundred invested, so if you're spending 10,000 FP daily on 1.9 threads with a level 100 Arc, it would take about a year to pay off. It only gets worse the higher you go. For most players you'd be better off working on getting other GB to 80 or higher before pushing the Arc further. That's late late game stuff.
Depends on how many investments, you FP bank size, how big your guild is if they only use 1.9 (or full arc bonus rules) and how often they flip GBs. You can make a decent amount of FP on a 1.9 thread with a big arc. I save hundreds of FP by asking big arcs to take P1 and P2 when GBs get into higher levels. Also can help younger players level that much faster with full arc bonus on their GBs.
Just discovered your excellent animation and narration with great and insightful information .I'm not a newbie my Arc is at 145 and all GB'S over a hundred, but I still enjoyed the video!
Have used the triangle method a lot. It is good to have yourself and 3 mates. That way positions 1-3 are taken. This insures we all get enough prints to level the gb, as well as medals. When in the sweet spot, would give them to the 2 high level players who could take the positions quickly and we would then take positions 3-5.
Amazing video
Ive always used 1.9 even before I had a 80 Arc and took P4 and P5 spots for blue prints. I now use a full Arc thread amongst a group of 30 friends who all have 120+ Arcs. Always a good suggestion if your Arc is over 100 and you know a few others
So I have very successfully combined swaps and 1.9 contributions. I take swaps on a guildmates GB and then add my anticipated reward on top as soon as I can secure.
This approach works exceptionally well since you do not “waste” FPs priming your own GB but rather prime using swaps. It also greatly reduces sniping since positions are taken by guildmates before they can be sniped by outsiders.
I do not see how FPs are "wasted" from seeding your own GB. It has a 3 fold advantage, I get my GBs leveled FAST and I have loyal contributors that know they will not loose a position and the FPs they put in. And also it attracts other contributors for the same reasons of security.
Thanks for this vedio....
I am a new player amd it helped alott.... 📈
love it.
Priming spots is called Seeding the positions. In a 1.9 group the owner of the Great Building puts in the amount of forge points before anyone puts forge points on the GB so that a contributor putting in 1.9 forge points of the basic reward which will lock that position. This is done so that there are not enough forge point left to take that position from that contributor. This all works smoothly if all players have an 81 level ARC, I have had trouble before when using a level 80 ARC, fractions count. Also a contributor can add FPs to a GB until the 1.9 amount is reached providing no one else has or will contribute FPs to that GB. Once 1.9 FP has been added the likelihood of someone taking P1 away from that 1st player is low as they would loose FP in the deal. Next the owner puts in the FP amount to lock the position. Seeding for 1.9 for P1 will lock P1 and P2 in that order for 1.9 contributions. Then owner will have to add more FPs to reach the seed amount of FPs for P3, same for P4 and P5. This has worked really well for me but I wish others would seed their GB to be leveled. I find a can not risk adding FPs to GB of other players in the 1.9 GB leveling groups I am in. I level at least 1 GB every day most of the time.
SPECIAL NOTE: to many 1.9 and other GB leveling groups on message threads use cryptic text to post their GB or make contributions. This can be hard to understand and I find that it takes more work to do than just posting your GB directly with a brief description of the open positions condition, ie P1 open on TT for 1.9 contribution to be locked.
5 players in swap threads get rewards in addition to their contribution back. Multiple swaps will also allow you to take P1-P3 spots that early players often don't have enough fp to do.
also look out for big players with high level arcs
for example i have found a person who contributes with 98% on p1 and one for 95% on p2 this literally saved me thousands of forgepoints when i leveld my arc and still helps for other GBs
I want to point out the Forecast cost GB foe tool.
This allows to plan ahead - when to switch from regular swaps to 1.9x.
I use 1.9 when my investment is less than 1/4 of the cost of level. Each player might have different approach to this.
If a player has enough time and initiative, he might opt to do speed levelling (power levelling, rushing, levelling party). The fastest way to get from lvl a to lvl b. Tried it once. Honestly, I had a small adrenaline rush seeing my Arc go 24 levels within minutes. Planning ahead to rush my Traz to around 70th. In this case it's good to have higher lvl Arc players take the p1 and p2 to reduce the cost.
My Arc is level 178 now. I hope, that I can get it to level 180 in a month. Sniping and 1.9 threads are in my opinion the fastest way to get a lot of FP, but it heavily depends on activity. When your Arc is hight enough, you can make more than 100 FP on single 1.9 contribution. Only problem is that it takes forever just to get there.
Powerleveling is the best. You get 5 players with higher arcs and they pay you their full arc bonus. For the bonus you get level more easily and with less time spent overall.
The only use for swap threads are exploiting your guild mates for free levels. For example if I see a great building with a locked reward spot I swap my own great building with poor rewards, secure the position in theirs, probably profiting a bit, and getting the fp in my building on top.
The best is if you find a guild who even uses swap threads for buildings in their sweet spot. Lets say they have a 300 fp swap. You can profit hundreds from taking their sweet spot position at a very reduced price, then you still get 300 added to yours. Use external 1.9x threads to absorb any available positions in your own gb so you minimize how much are lost to the swaps. Usually this means securing p1 and p2 first and then offering p3-5 to swaps.
The difficulty with this method is knowing when to go for the swap. If you wait you may get the position for even cheaper, but it might also be sniped.
I have a six persons tread, you are paired with two and put a daily amount of FP's in each other's GB, then when it is 11 FP's away from lvling, you put in the big thread where the other 5 players take in place 2,3,4,5
P2: 4 FP's
P3: 3 FP's
P4: 2 FP's
P5: 1 FP
This way, you get a lot of FP's from rewards so you'd be able to put them in 1.9/other threads, hope you like it, when someone comes up with a great name for it, drop it in the reactions
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That sounds like a good one! Feel free to come up with a name yourself! Maybe it'll stick :)
I cant find the link for Algonas Reverse Triangle
You're right! I never added it! It's in the description now, and thank you!
@UBERnerd14 Thank You, I did eventually find it but it was actually quite tough, I seen the name of the thread in your video and Google searched the thread name, but tried to find it on forums first and damn near impossible lol.
But that should definetley help people in the future. it seems like a reasonable system, the problem is going to be explaining it to a couple of my friends.. they aren't so smart. Maybe you could do an in depth video about it or get someone too at least lol!
Maybe in the future. I've got a laundry list of so many videos I need to make :)
@UBERnerd14 yeh I bet so much you could cover with this game, wish I had the patience to edit I'd probably give it a shot.
@UBERnerd14 you and the couple guys who do it do an amazing job anyways!
Does anyone now use any methods other than 1.9?
I haven't seen them on Swedish servers for a very long time. I have even given up sniping, because with so few using swap threads it's not worth the effort. On beta though you can profit a lot. I don't know why they are so popular there, but they are. I've had long discussions with people trying to explain how they are hurting the guild. But at least with an arc in a guild with swap threads you get notified when you can snipe your guild mates. Since they are popular on beta I bet they are in many other countries as well.
I have never read good directions are a good video on this 1.9. They either talk too fast or they think I’m not supposed to already know about it just do a step-by-step example slow please.
How about when your ARC level is way below 80? How can you level it without losing tons of FPs?
Try to take lower spots on higher arcs in 1.9 threads, like p4 or p5. A lot of times, you can get a lot of prints for only 10 FP. You can also try finding a group of players with arcs around the same level as yours, and work on leveling them together.
I used the triangle method to level my Arc, it worked very well and we all had all the blue prints we needed all the way up to 80 and beyond. We didn't know it was called the triangle method though. We just called it private swapping.
The fastest ways are using 1.9x threads or speed levelling. My Arc was 2-3 levels up each day. As soon as I built FP bank and found people willing to speed level it, took it from 54th to 80th in 15 minutes.
@@fjalchikin Of course 1.9 is ludicrous speed compared to other methods, more so the higher you go, but mere speed is not all there is to it. Leveling an Arc doesn't lend itself as well to scrounging around on the 1.9 threads looking for scraps. That never worked for me in any of the cities I've worked on. After your Arc is around 60 or so it becomes useful for taking advantage of 1.9 spots at reasonable cost, for any GB, not just Arc rewards. But even so, a leveling Arc is a resource for other players in your guild who are trying to level their Arcs. 1.9 screws the lowest level players out of the best rewards more perfectly than the sloppy process of the regular threads. Most of the guilds I've been in had Arc only threads and other methods designed to help overcome this difficulty.
But if you don't give a flying frigola about guild mates trying to level their Arcs, then, never mind.
@@jamesedwards.1069 I think the language barrier kicked in. :D Didn't get the morale of the story (your comment). :/
Brother has 75K FPs in the bank ☠️
I actually have about 85k right now but had spent a lot on 1.9 threads. I have a level 100 Arc so I make profit on 1.9 threads, and over a couple years and just saving up...
75K drains faster than you thought. I wasn't really active for 2 years and I gathered more than that in the bank. Everything finished quickly when I came back and start catching up with others.
I hate seeing low level GBs in the 1.x threads because it's stupid. Why prime a level 3 GB with hundreds of FPs so that you get a few dozen "free" FPs from the contributor? And doing it that way means you lose out on the chance to get rewards which you would get on the regular swap threads. I've seen lots of players struggle to get the blue prints they need because they level their GBs this stupid way. And they are always low on FPs in their inventory as well. And then when I try to point out the problem they get mad and get me kicked out of the guild.
You can easily get BP in a 1.9 thread - just take p4 or p5. Rewards in swap threads also are not guaranteed, and smaller players are just as likely to get nothing for their contributions via swaps.
1.x threads are also a great way to grow your bank - just invest your collected FP each day and it'll grow pretty steadily.
Swaps are inefficient, slow, and prone to sniping, cost much more, and don't give you as many rewards. Simple as that. If you're still using swaps, you're only hurting yourself.
@@UBERnerd14 When your Arc is just a baby 1.x doesn't work very well, that was my experience. I managed to amass a fortune in FP's in my inventory just by using the regular swap threads. Slower than 1.x, but, cheaper and easier when one is starting out. Also, I've found that GBs below level 20 or so rarely get sniped, so it's not a big issue if you switch to 1.x by the time the GB hits its sweet spot.
In the guilds I've been it I found it frustrating trying to catch P4 & P5 on the 1.x threads, I decided early on that it was a waste of time, real life time if not game time. It was so much easier to use the regular swap threads until my Arc had reached a decent level and I could afford to take big boy spots.
I was lucky to have found FoE Hints when starting out, I think his video "How to level your Arc the right way" is the best advice that exists, which is about using the different approaches at different levels and according to the situation.
Arc is easy. Just find other people leveling theirs and take p4 or p5 at break even. Shouldn't take long to get enough prints to make progress on your own arc, and just keep going. No reason to overpay on swap threads for the prints.
@@UBERnerd14 Do you actually play this game or do you only write about it and make videos?
Been playing it for years, across multiple worlds. I've done swaps, I've done 1.9. there's a clear winner.
You are talking of all that strategies so serious so I started thinking that you are making money from this game. It is true? Is anyone buying the diamonds or something else?
? I don't get paid by Inno. I just make guides and such because I enjoy it :)
In Noarsil server we have a guild 42 rising. The founder who has player for years. He don't believe in anyway other way to level up GB's than his own way SWAPS and has gotten most of the guild to do the same thing. He firmly believes they are quicker and will challenge anyone to a GB leveling race. He's an Idiot.
I don't think I can disagree with that!