Scan is literally the most lovable human. Like, you hear him and just wish he was your friend ya know, but he's Artosis' friend and that's close enough. :)
I'm gonna keep saying this on every video, but my goodness, Arty and InvisibleManProductions are a match made in heaven. God tier editing for god tier Brood War content.
@@XUndergroundRap "No parents visible from the pitch" policy in my region really helped in my childhood. Sadly it wasn't universal so I know what you both mean, and yeah it's worse than retail or food industry.
Arty! Amazing content. Its great to watch scan giving out his thoughts on the starcraft ladder and levels. Also, his vibe is amazingly clear and honest.
You know ASL is impossible for a foreigner when scan himself isn't even a regular. And he's basically semi-pro that gets to practice with pro's anytime he wants to.
great vid! Scan is so smart and wholesome. Also! wanted to see this for awhile but the ending screen for the vids just feels off. Have another stylized background from early gaming era. The Channel is about starcraft and RT, so like maybe galaxy themed stuff. idk. (just honest feedback)
Well, 4 zerglings, 2 marines and 1 zealot all cost same supply so Protoss should have a bit smaller army which should be easier to control. Single probe can build the whole expansion and 20 cannons so it's also easier. Cannons shoot both air and ground so it's easier to defend. Storm is pretty good, Reavers are strong, DTs are strong.... I think it might be the skill ceilling, what can Protoss do to be "even better"? Is it just the skill ceilling or something else? Why don't we see Bisu and Snow constantly destroying everyone with imba Protoss?
@@zlac Yeah, the skill ceiling would not be an issue if everyone had time to practice 24/7. But given a limited amount of time to practice, choosing the least skill intensive race can make a difference in your tournament results.
Always enjoyed you two playing side-by-side. Some of the best entertainment. Arty, where can I download some recent replays? Everything I'm finding is old. Got any good spots I can hit up?
Well I have to admit that Zerg and Protoss tech tree in Broodwar is much easier than Terran's. Terrans just have too many options and buildings in Broodwar. Building up to max supply is also harder because Zerg can produce 3 units per hatchery at once and Protoss minimal supply cost for combat unit is 2.
To be professional in anything, you can't enjoy it, that's what it all comes down to. It has to be something you hate and do constantly until it's muscle memory and you hate it, and nowhere else in the world could people do that but Korea when it comes to a video game. Just because the money is there.
They make nothing. But googling stuff is harder than typing out some bullshit on UA-cam to show everybody you're a moron. Do you always take the easy way out?
Read this comment section. Bunch of dumb Mexicans thinking scan is some mid level ladder player and typing huge paragraphs about how he doesn't understand the game
Scan might be right about foreign players never getting as good as Koreans in SCBW but I want to preface this that there is a lot of subtle (often not so subtle) superiority from Koreans and Japanese people about their abilities and capabilities compared to other peoples. It's something that is often just believed to be true in these regions without enough evidence to make such claims.
@@ManCubuSSC of course it would take years. And the skills between the games are somewhat transferable, these guys are miles beyond someone like artosis, scarlett or the best foreigner bw players right now in terms of skill.
Ah yes sc2 the dead game where APM is literally fake. The game they tried to force down our throats for 10 years and everyone still went back to brood war. It's sad because I know you're not joking but you are, in fact, a joke 😂
so arty is trying to say its harder to play terran because if it's complexity. ok, well that's just like comparing someone using notepad vs someone using excel. yeah sure, focus on the complexity of all the formulas and how you have to know how they work, plus the adage of having to learn how to use excel. but that isn't the point is it. people do all that extra stuff because it makes it not only easier but saves time. you have two people using two different tools to complete the same task. one person is vastly limited in their ability and capped as far as options for strategic conclusions. terrans are the excel sheet. you have a world of formulas at your disposal. your tool was designed specifically for the task its being used for. that means its easier for your shit help you to achieve the expected consusion than someone, that's limited in their options. here's another way of putting it. protoss can only come to the same conclusion or solution using integers in a string of 10 numbers. terrans can come to the same exact conclusion or solution using any set of numbers or combinations within a string a 10 numbers. one is highly limited in options, while the other has "infinite" possibilities for formulating an equation that will provide the desired conclusion, left up to the minds imagination as all limiting factors have been removed. really though, if the other races were so easy, you would have been switched over a long time ago and gotten into a position to become pro and then switched back to the race you suck most at. the other two are easy to you , remember? which leaves the obvious conclusion meaning you suck at terran the most.
P and T both have sky high skill ceilings (Z as well). P just has a lower skill floor. The skill floor is lower for two reasons. 1: Less APM and multitasking required. 2: If both players are weak, Protoss wins. At low level, Protoss can just do things, and people just die. Low risk high reward noobkiller tactics like proxy gates, carriers, recalls, counterattacking, etc, take more work to defend against than to perform, while Terran's only low risk high reward mistake punisher is running around with vultures. This is not a problem at high level, which is why every race consistently makes it to top 8, top 4, top 2 in tournaments. To me, it's not even a problem in general. I'm past the point at which Protoss has an advantage, and when I wasn't, I had a choice: play the easier race, or not, but in either case, there was no reason to whine. I knew what I signed up for in either case. If you want to talk about possibilities, Protoss have more of them than Terran. There are more viable styles and unit compositions in PvT than there are in TvP. This doesn't mean that Protoss is stronger, however. More diversity is a good thing. StarCraft would be improved by giving everyone more options, rather than taking any away. It's not accurate to say that either race is favoured in PvT, because we have racial statistics of sponsored Korean matches (high level gameplay) and they are very good. There are maps that slightly favour T (55%), maps that slightly favour P (55%), and maps that are right down the middle (50%). There are some significantly imbalanced maps, but that only means that those maps are imbalanced, not the game in general.
its not about winning its about being apart of it. A pro player doesnt matter where you come from is still a pro player and being involved in any way even if you are the worst player is still an achievement
ASL is basically an incestuous groupjerk. Makes for great games, but if you aren't part of the group you don't get to train properly for it. And those koreans? Incredibly sticky hands.
they found out the solution in 10 minutes because they're better than you who spent a hour. at the higest levels of talent, not dumbasses on the ladder, not old ass streamers who can't climb, at the -highest levels of talent- there is a balance difference. its clear. there is no need for me to point out which race is the best race at the highest levels of talent AND dedication. its just funny that in this game, somehow, when it comes to the midwits, it's actually the opposite. so they bathe in that. clean yourself properly.
Brother that's scan. He has qualified for asl more than once. He's a top pro and one of the best players in the world by far. Anyone who reads this is imagining you drooling on your keyboard He's one of the few pros who knows English and has blessed artisos and all his viewers with in house coaching on stream. The videos with him are some of the best English content available for learning
@@bakaraymoo7389 do you think I got here randomly? I know who he is. Did you read what I said?... It's one thing for artosis to say Terran is so much more work, but a pro player its too much... just tired of it
![[ENG] ASL Season17 Ro.4 Match2 SnOw vs SoulKey (Tastosis)](/img/n.gif)
Can we crowd fund to fly scan over to canada for a backyard bbq?😢
I'll chip in $10. 😊
I'll chip 50$
dont fly. its bad for the environment
Canada is too cold for a backyard bbq party
@@gordanbabic8028 what rock are you under? its 30 celsius on a cool day here
Scan is literally the most lovable human. Like, you hear him and just wish he was your friend ya know, but he's Artosis' friend and that's close enough. :)
Haha yeeees 😂
He offensive gg'd Sziky in 2010-2011, he improved a lot.
@@imrenemet1184 he’s like a God compared to me lol
Then snow laughs
I'm gonna keep saying this on every video, but my goodness, Arty and InvisibleManProductions are a match made in heaven. God tier editing for god tier Brood War content.
This whole video feels like extorition. Like, of course scan is gonna agree with everything you say when you have the capri sun. The man's an addict!
We got some allegedly non regretting guy, and some cool dude allegedly Arty's brother, but no Scanada yet 🤧
The "7 levels of getting 2-0'd" is awesome stuff. Kine of like that Brian Scalabrini Lebron YMCA bball pickup game youtube vid.
Wait and this was pre-pink panther theme. Amazing...
Lmao thank god for that retail experience
If Scan comes to Canada make a LAN tournament for subtier players like me
“The Scanada open”
you mean dishwasher tier
A Canadian player won a star league 23 years ago. Show some respect.
you mean "drunk on busch lite 60 apm" tier
Everybody should have to work retail once. So you know just how terrible humanity can be.
Refereeing youth sports will give you a similar dim view on humanity...
@shoobaloob as a soccer reff goin on two decades.... parents trying to live vicariously though their kids are the worst
@@shoobaloob I did my son's tball team. I became a daycare basically with parents just leaving. They don't even know me. It was crazy.
retail or food industry, whichever
@@XUndergroundRap "No parents visible from the pitch" policy in my region really helped in my childhood. Sadly it wasn't universal so I know what you both mean, and yeah it's worse than retail or food industry.
What race does Scan play? Protoss? 🤔
Edit: am I an idiot?
Scanada!!
Arty! Amazing content. Its great to watch scan giving out his thoughts on the starcraft ladder and levels. Also, his vibe is amazingly clear and honest.
so glad the editor puts into emotes over the closed captions so i can understand what theyre saying
I would donate to fly scan to PEI
Wait scan is in Canada right now? Thats really cool
it mightve just been that that particular clip was taken way before he moved to canada
Being an avid artosis enjoyer this is definitely an old clip when Dan was still living in korea.
Yeah was a TBT clip! Some unreleased Clips I had. If people like it I can make some more
@@invisiblemenproduction I guess that makes a lot more sense lol. Sorry I should have recognized the old room
@@wyldechild7122 Dan says "I have a yard" tho. Maybe it's just that they had decided on the house at that point, I dunno.
You know ASL is impossible for a foreigner when scan himself isn't even a regular. And he's basically semi-pro that gets to practice with pro's anytime he wants to.
COPIUMPLANET, the Terran homeworld.
Your video are pur gold. Scan is the next Jesus, it's just that no one knows already.
scan needs to visit !! 😢
great vid! Scan is so smart and wholesome. Also! wanted to see this for awhile but the ending screen for the vids just feels off. Have another stylized background from early gaming era. The Channel is about starcraft and RT, so like maybe galaxy themed stuff. idk. (just honest feedback)
When Jaeyun switched to Protoss my Z heart broke a little. But at least he is a foreigner that keeps it real when talking about race balance.
Well, 4 zerglings, 2 marines and 1 zealot all cost same supply so Protoss should have a bit smaller army which should be easier to control.
Single probe can build the whole expansion and 20 cannons so it's also easier.
Cannons shoot both air and ground so it's easier to defend.
Storm is pretty good, Reavers are strong, DTs are strong....
I think it might be the skill ceilling, what can Protoss do to be "even better"?
Is it just the skill ceilling or something else? Why don't we see Bisu and Snow constantly destroying everyone with imba Protoss?
@@zlac Yeah, the skill ceiling would not be an issue if everyone had time to practice 24/7.
But given a limited amount of time to practice, choosing the least skill intensive race can make a difference in your tournament results.
So this is recent coaching? I love that.
Always enjoyed you two playing side-by-side. Some of the best entertainment. Arty, where can I download some recent replays? Everything I'm finding is old. Got any good spots I can hit up?
Scan is such a nice guy. I feel like hes my friend, even though i've never meet him and probably never will.
first
hes wrong you can do it Dan
Scan seems in a good mood and agreeing with Artosis here, but actually Artosis had a gun held to the last capri sun off-screen.
Scan can live rent-free in my basement in America if he wishes and just play StarCraft all day. We could chill regularly and eat pizza rolls
Nice screen name! I loved See
Dam scan got some good English
that normalized him
That doggy looks exactly like a toy!
Ah man, that ending was so predictable, but so true LOL
Backyard BBQ!!! 🎉
Loved the asian guy! He seems kind!
Well I have to admit that Zerg and Protoss tech tree in Broodwar is much easier than Terran's. Terrans just have too many options and buildings in Broodwar. Building up to max supply is also harder because Zerg can produce 3 units per hatchery at once and Protoss minimal supply cost for combat unit is 2.
Right now I definitely think light could beat flash
Really speaks for how crowded (downtown) Japan is if a Korean thinks it's too crowded.
Japan definitely pushes the boundary of crowded vs canned with sardines, in high quality way, not like hotbunking in a slum type of way.
i thought your friendship was broken
Love Scan
Train the Protoss students wrong... as a joke
7:45+ was fucking hilarious
Lol
Are there any female streamers you guys know I can follow? I know a few in Canada and Poland.
I am not pro player, I play Protoss since the game came out because I find them cool. Don't tell Arto.
If anyone can do it, artosis can
melee fox is harder than terran
To be professional in anything, you can't enjoy it, that's what it all comes down to. It has to be something you hate and do constantly until it's muscle memory and you hate it, and nowhere else in the world could people do that but Korea when it comes to a video game. Just because the money is there.
They make nothing. But googling stuff is harder than typing out some bullshit on UA-cam to show everybody you're a moron. Do you always take the easy way out?
So scan visited Canada?
Once you beat snow you make into ASL
arty.... i am sorry....
Mid-tier TL foreigners telling Scan he's wrong about BW. 😂 Never change TL.
Read this comment section. Bunch of dumb Mexicans thinking scan is some mid level ladder player and typing huge paragraphs about how he doesn't understand the game
i think Dewalt has chance to make into ASL
I love shrek
#freerusty
Theres one way to get Terran to be played more... Hosting TvT tournaments 😂.
The end of this vid was just kinda weird lol
Most normal Terran player
7 levels below 👀👀😂😂😂😂
Executed
^o^
Wow scan is such a cool guy. Hes like if he would be American.
Scan might be right about foreign players never getting as good as Koreans in SCBW but I want to preface this that there is a lot of subtle (often not so subtle) superiority from Koreans and Japanese people about their abilities and capabilities compared to other peoples. It's something that is often just believed to be true in these regions without enough evidence to make such claims.
Scan is cute. No homo.
If Serral Reynor or Clem dedicated themselves to broodwar I think they could do it. Also i could see maru being a top player perhaps near flash.
LMAO 🤣 Are you high or trolling?
@@ManCubuSSC of course it would take years. And the skills between the games are somewhat transferable, these guys are miles beyond someone like artosis, scarlett or the best foreigner bw players right now in terms of skill.
Ah yes sc2 the dead game where APM is literally fake. The game they tried to force down our throats for 10 years and everyone still went back to brood war.
It's sad because I know you're not joking but you are, in fact, a joke 😂
so arty is trying to say its harder to play terran because if it's complexity. ok, well that's just like comparing someone using notepad vs someone using excel. yeah sure, focus on the complexity of all the formulas and how you have to know how they work, plus the adage of having to learn how to use excel. but that isn't the point is it. people do all that extra stuff because it makes it not only easier but saves time. you have two people using two different tools to complete the same task. one person is vastly limited in their ability and capped as far as options for strategic conclusions. terrans are the excel sheet. you have a world of formulas at your disposal. your tool was designed specifically for the task its being used for. that means its easier for your shit help you to achieve the expected consusion than someone, that's limited in their options.
here's another way of putting it. protoss can only come to the same conclusion or solution using integers in a string of 10 numbers. terrans can come to the same exact conclusion or solution using any set of numbers or combinations within a string a 10 numbers. one is highly limited in options, while the other has "infinite" possibilities for formulating an equation that will provide the desired conclusion, left up to the minds imagination as all limiting factors have been removed.
really though, if the other races were so easy, you would have been switched over a long time ago and gotten into a position to become pro and then switched back to the race you suck most at. the other two are easy to you , remember? which leaves the obvious conclusion meaning you suck at terran the most.
P and T both have sky high skill ceilings (Z as well). P just has a lower skill floor. The skill floor is lower for two reasons.
1: Less APM and multitasking required.
2: If both players are weak, Protoss wins. At low level, Protoss can just do things, and people just die. Low risk high reward noobkiller tactics like proxy gates, carriers, recalls, counterattacking, etc, take more work to defend against than to perform, while Terran's only low risk high reward mistake punisher is running around with vultures. This is not a problem at high level, which is why every race consistently makes it to top 8, top 4, top 2 in tournaments. To me, it's not even a problem in general. I'm past the point at which Protoss has an advantage, and when I wasn't, I had a choice: play the easier race, or not, but in either case, there was no reason to whine. I knew what I signed up for in either case.
If you want to talk about possibilities, Protoss have more of them than Terran. There are more viable styles and unit compositions in PvT than there are in TvP. This doesn't mean that Protoss is stronger, however. More diversity is a good thing. StarCraft would be improved by giving everyone more options, rather than taking any away.
It's not accurate to say that either race is favoured in PvT, because we have racial statistics of sponsored Korean matches (high level gameplay) and they are very good. There are maps that slightly favour T (55%), maps that slightly favour P (55%), and maps that are right down the middle (50%). There are some significantly imbalanced maps, but that only means that those maps are imbalanced, not the game in general.
its not about winning its about being apart of it. A pro player doesnt matter where you come from is still a pro player and being involved in any way even if you are the worst player is still an achievement
alternative title: terran scrubs bitching about P being too easy.
Zerg is by far the most hard race to play.
All the other Korean pros agree with scan by the way. Your opinion means nothing
at lower-medium levels yes
Why pick one... Some are slow & dumb
😂😂
what a BS opinion, all the protoss get rekt in ASL, it's the weakest race on pro level
Except there's literally data recently gathered that proves toss is the best. Can you ask your boss when the McRib is coming back?
@@bakaraymoo7389 dude there is only Mini ans Rain able to win ASL and ONLY when Flash is OUT, cuz Flash 4: 0 even Rain
ASL is basically an incestuous groupjerk. Makes for great games, but if you aren't part of the group you don't get to train properly for it.
And those koreans? Incredibly sticky hands.
Scan bitching about Japan when Korea is literally the same, wut?
they found out the solution in 10 minutes because they're better than you who spent a hour. at the higest levels of talent, not dumbasses on the ladder, not old ass streamers who can't climb, at the -highest levels of talent- there is a balance difference. its clear. there is no need for me to point out which race is the best race at the highest levels of talent AND dedication. its just funny that in this game, somehow, when it comes to the midwits, it's actually the opposite. so they bathe in that. clean yourself properly.
Brother that's scan. He has qualified for asl more than once. He's a top pro and one of the best players in the world by far.
Anyone who reads this is imagining you drooling on your keyboard
He's one of the few pros who knows English and has blessed artisos and all his viewers with in house coaching on stream. The videos with him are some of the best English content available for learning
@@bakaraymoo7389 do you think I got here randomly? I know who he is. Did you read what I said?... It's one thing for artosis to say Terran is so much more work, but a pro player its too much... just tired of it