I really appreciate hearing that. I wish I had been able to keep up with videos in the past couple months. I have been filming a ton of footage for an upcoming "conclusion" on all of the upgrades. Then hopefully a bunch more videos after that
Congrats on the birth! We're at a similar place. I'm not a EE, but was a nuke electrician in the Navy, just bought a laser for my CNC and picked up a PM-30MV I'm going to convert to CNC and my daughter is due in October. I don't think I'll be putting a 5HP motor on top of mine but we'll see. I had considered filling in the castings though and filling the hollow square steel I used for the bench I built.
Congratulations on the upcoming baby! And when did you get out/did you ever do a prototype tour or did you come through NPTU up here or MTS? As for the epoxy fill, I have high hopes that it will make a big difference in the rigidity of the machine but we will see how the results speak
Battle Resistant Outfitters I got out in December of 2010. I didn’t do a staff tour at prototype but I was a student up there at S8G in fall/winter of 2003.
Ahhh ok, you were quite a few years ahead of me then. I started at MARF in 2010 and after 10 years over there just came over and qualified at 8G earlier this year. Small world.
Haha hopefully that isn't how it came across! When I started up here I was already in my mid 20s so we are likely within a few years of being the same age. What do you plan to use the PM30 for? Just getting into machining or do you have a product planned for it already?
I appreciate that! Hopefully another couple videos coming soon. I have gotten a lot of help from people on youtube over the years. This is my small way of trying to give back.
The ring light looks like a through spindle coolant adapter. Adding copper lines between the stater and housing body of the spindle could also aid in cooling for longer runs.
The ring light is basically the same design as a coolant ring. I don't have flood setup for this machine so I took advantage of the space to gain some more light. I love that idea for some cooling using some copper heat exchangers, I might have to give that a try. Thanks for the idea!
Congratulations for the newest addition to your family! I am looking forward seeing the mill grow beyond its means. If you need anything cut once the upgrade begins just send me the file and I will run it.
Cant wait to see some of your solutions!! I’ve been trying to find a spindle pulley for the pm30 mv for a while now to get more RPM’s out of the DMM Servo spindle motor I got a while back ( 170 1.8kw with DYN4 driver ) maxes out at 3000 RPM , I also had a hell of a time getting that thing off the spindles day damaged it pretty bad ( double set screws btw)I’m exited to see your upgrading because your the only person I’ve found running the pm30mv CNC I’ve found with an affinity for firearms milling like myself!!!
Hopefully it all turns out well and isn't an epic failure! I have taken the stock spindle pulley off once to measure it and you aren't kidding, huge pain to get off without breaking it in half. I am currently editing a video of a quick RMR cut so hopefully I can get some firearm cutting content up on here now too. How do you like the DMM servo?
Battle Resistant Outfitters The servo has tons of low end torque, but tops at 3000 unfortunately I’m running a control system that can’t rigid tap yet, (masso) which was one of the reasons I got that spindle servo , the encoders on the DMM’s are awesome, but I think I went a little small on the all the axis with the DMM 400w servos, but they are quiet and smooth, I’ve been thinking about adding a counterbalance for z axis to help, but really want to get some more rpms. How did you get that spindle pulley off??? Wedge Fork ?? Use heat?
@@GabriellaGtag what size is the shaft for the servo motor? I'm sure you could put a bigger pulley on the motor or a smaller one on the spindle. You would give up some power but more speed is definitely what these mills need. For the spindle pulley, I started by slowly prying with a flat blade screwdriver. Scratched up the paint on top of my head pretty good doing that. After that I put some plastic sheet under the screwdriver to help protect it until I got a tiny bit of movement on the pulley. Once I had about 1/16" the e so of clearance under the pulley I was able to use a pry bar and tap it with a deadblow. Huge pain and I actually have to do it again so I can setup a bore gage in the old pulley before I machine the new one to get the same fit. I'll make sure I film it next time
Glad you got some inspiration! I'm actually going to be doing a little modification to the enclosure that I didn't talk about on here. Keeping the tray just how it is, but bringing the whole front of the enclosure and the doors out another 3" to accommodate the new vise and extra travel I'll have
Send me an email at battleresistantoutfitters@gmail.com, I'll shoot you the cad file there and a link to the cheap ring light I used. As for the conversion kit, I got mine from ProCutCNC and I have been very happy with it (the kit comes with double nut ballscrews all around, Nema 34 mounts for each axis and the bearings you need for the ballscrews). A similarly priced kit is also available from a different UA-camr named ArizonaVideo99. I have heard great things about his kits also
The 833 looks like an amazing machine. I definitely wish that I had gone with the 833T but it wasn't available when I got my PM30. I'm 5'8" and I went with 32" above the ground to my table. It feels great
@@mpmachining7227 Great, I'm 5'10" and was thinking 34", so spot on. Really looking forward to the build. I'm pretty much going to follow Dr. D-Flows conversion. Honestly not looking forward to the electrical side but I'll get through it. I plan on making an enclosure like yours. Pretty slick!
It's really not all that difficult. Plenty of good resources out there to help. If you have questions along the way let me know. And the enclosure is a MUST if you don't want to be showered in chips
So im finishing up the conversion and will be starting on my electrical enclosure later this week. Curios what board you went with and if you possibly have a wiring diagram for the VFD wiring to the board part? I went with a mesa board.
@@mmarmino has i went with a C10 board from CNC4PC. It was on the way cheaper end of breakout boards at the time and has a lot less options than most of their other boards. I have been looking at upgrading to a Mesa board at some time in the near future but unfortunately i dont have a diagram my wiring. I can certainly help walk you through it though because the wiring should be pretty straight forward either way
Thanks for the feedback. I noticed it when editing the video and a few others I have done. It is a bit awkward sitting in your basement talking to yourself. Hopefully I will get used to it haha
I'm always impressed by people with drive who want to do things outside the box. A great trait to have. I'll be watching when I can.
I really appreciate hearing that. I wish I had been able to keep up with videos in the past couple months. I have been filming a ton of footage for an upcoming "conclusion" on all of the upgrades. Then hopefully a bunch more videos after that
Congrats on the birth! We're at a similar place. I'm not a EE, but was a nuke electrician in the Navy, just bought a laser for my CNC and picked up a PM-30MV I'm going to convert to CNC and my daughter is due in October. I don't think I'll be putting a 5HP motor on top of mine but we'll see. I had considered filling in the castings though and filling the hollow square steel I used for the bench I built.
Congratulations on the upcoming baby! And when did you get out/did you ever do a prototype tour or did you come through NPTU up here or MTS?
As for the epoxy fill, I have high hopes that it will make a big difference in the rigidity of the machine but we will see how the results speak
Battle Resistant Outfitters I got out in December of 2010. I didn’t do a staff tour at prototype but I was a student up there at S8G in fall/winter of 2003.
Ahhh ok, you were quite a few years ahead of me then. I started at MARF in 2010 and after 10 years over there just came over and qualified at 8G earlier this year. Small world.
Battle Resistant Outfitters Ouch, I’m the old man! Good thing we’ve got these young bucks on UA-cam to teach us how to use these computers.
Haha hopefully that isn't how it came across! When I started up here I was already in my mid 20s so we are likely within a few years of being the same age.
What do you plan to use the PM30 for? Just getting into machining or do you have a product planned for it already?
You deserve many more subscribers! Keep it up.
I appreciate that! Hopefully another couple videos coming soon. I have gotten a lot of help from people on youtube over the years. This is my small way of trying to give back.
awesome:) thanks for the videos. and congrats!
Hopefully more to come soon!
Quick Quick update ! 😀 I like your video's from France ✌️
Thank you for watching!!
The ring light looks like a through spindle coolant adapter. Adding copper lines between the stater and housing body of the spindle could also aid in cooling for longer runs.
The ring light is basically the same design as a coolant ring. I don't have flood setup for this machine so I took advantage of the space to gain some more light. I love that idea for some cooling using some copper heat exchangers, I might have to give that a try. Thanks for the idea!
Congratulations for the newest addition to your family! I am looking forward seeing the mill grow beyond its means. If you need anything cut once the upgrade begins just send me the file and I will run it.
That is an awesome offer. I really appreciate it! I'll definitely keep that in mind.
Cant wait to see some of your solutions!! I’ve been trying to find a spindle pulley for the pm30 mv for a while now to get more RPM’s out of the DMM Servo spindle motor I got a while back ( 170 1.8kw with DYN4 driver ) maxes out at 3000 RPM , I also had a hell of a time getting that thing off the spindles day damaged it pretty bad ( double set screws btw)I’m exited to see your upgrading because your the only person I’ve found running the pm30mv CNC I’ve found with an affinity for firearms milling like myself!!!
Hopefully it all turns out well and isn't an epic failure! I have taken the stock spindle pulley off once to measure it and you aren't kidding, huge pain to get off without breaking it in half. I am currently editing a video of a quick RMR cut so hopefully I can get some firearm cutting content up on here now too. How do you like the DMM servo?
Battle Resistant Outfitters
The servo has tons of low end torque, but tops at 3000 unfortunately I’m running a control system that can’t rigid tap yet, (masso) which was one of the reasons I got that spindle servo , the encoders on the DMM’s are awesome, but I think I went a little small on the all the axis with the DMM 400w servos, but they are quiet and smooth, I’ve been thinking about adding a counterbalance for z axis to help, but really want to get some more rpms. How did you get that spindle pulley off??? Wedge Fork ?? Use heat?
@@GabriellaGtag what size is the shaft for the servo motor? I'm sure you could put a bigger pulley on the motor or a smaller one on the spindle. You would give up some power but more speed is definitely what these mills need.
For the spindle pulley, I started by slowly prying with a flat blade screwdriver. Scratched up the paint on top of my head pretty good doing that. After that I put some plastic sheet under the screwdriver to help protect it until I got a tiny bit of movement on the pulley. Once I had about 1/16" the e so of clearance under the pulley I was able to use a pry bar and tap it with a deadblow. Huge pain and I actually have to do it again so I can setup a bore gage in the old pulley before I machine the new one to get the same fit. I'll make sure I film it next time
My friend is manufacturing the chipntray and I expect to get it next week. Largely based on your tray.
Glad you got some inspiration! I'm actually going to be doing a little modification to the enclosure that I didn't talk about on here. Keeping the tray just how it is, but bringing the whole front of the enclosure and the doors out another 3" to accommodate the new vise and extra travel I'll have
Would you post the cad file for the spindle ring light? Thanks... BTW where did you get your PM30 cnc conversion kit or pieces from?
Send me an email at battleresistantoutfitters@gmail.com, I'll shoot you the cad file there and a link to the cheap ring light I used.
As for the conversion kit, I got mine from ProCutCNC and I have been very happy with it (the kit comes with double nut ballscrews all around, Nema 34 mounts for each axis and the bearings you need for the ballscrews). A similarly priced kit is also available from a different UA-camr named ArizonaVideo99. I have heard great things about his kits also
Looks great. I just bought the 833 and waiting on the ball screws. I'm building my table right now. What's your table height above floor?
The 833 looks like an amazing machine. I definitely wish that I had gone with the 833T but it wasn't available when I got my PM30. I'm 5'8" and I went with 32" above the ground to my table. It feels great
@@mpmachining7227 Great, I'm 5'10" and was thinking 34", so spot on. Really looking forward to the build. I'm pretty much going to follow Dr. D-Flows conversion. Honestly not looking forward to the electrical side but I'll get through it. I plan on making an enclosure like yours. Pretty slick!
It's really not all that difficult. Plenty of good resources out there to help. If you have questions along the way let me know. And the enclosure is a MUST if you don't want to be showered in chips
So im finishing up the conversion and will be starting on my electrical enclosure later this week. Curios what board you went with and if you possibly have a wiring diagram for the VFD wiring to the board part? I went with a mesa board.
@@mmarmino has i went with a C10 board from CNC4PC. It was on the way cheaper end of breakout boards at the time and has a lot less options than most of their other boards. I have been looking at upgrading to a Mesa board at some time in the near future but unfortunately i dont have a diagram my wiring. I can certainly help walk you through it though because the wiring should be pretty straight forward either way
Congratulations to you all btw. 😀
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Thanks for the feedback. I noticed it when editing the video and a few others I have done. It is a bit awkward sitting in your basement talking to yourself. Hopefully I will get used to it haha