@@crispindry2815 thanks for the answer, in makes sense. But what about little bit of water like on video? I do it only couple of days, and Imo it very good
man coffee snobs really just be out here claiming that everyone who isn't their god with glasses doesn't have the foggiest about how to make coffee, even when they literally just regurgitate what the guy says. @@mishan3168
@@revilo9792you do not use hot water if you are not in a hurry because you want the right extraction of waxes with warm coffee grounds to be more effective. You do not water the coffee grounds because pressure might get too high and break the moka, you do not exceed the water levels to be sure the pressure is the one the cookpot can handle. So basically this coffee is not only likely to damage the moka, but it probably could taste way better if done correctly
I don’t know. What you say is traditional but I have made moka pot coffee with a what you say and some of what the guy does in the video tastes way better, not burnt and bitter like the moka pot coffee I was used to. Although I didn’t bloom the coffee and likely won’t, using hot water somehow tastes better, you should try it and let me know what you think. Maybe it is placebo
1- you should use coarse grounded coffee not fine so there is space steam can flow through to avoid high pressure hazards. 2- you should start with cold water not boiling and on medium low heat it is brewed fast enough, you don't ruin it and have it faster. 3- never pour water on top of coffee unless you are looking for shitty extraction. 4- if coffee is spattering in this manner you did amazing job burning your coffee feel free to flush it down the toilet
Ben detto, quel caffè sembra acquoso e fare schifo, sembra quello uscito dalla mia moka elettrica non toccata da 50 anni in fondo all'armadio delle caffettiere
Oui vous avez raison mais sauf sur l'eau chaude dans la partie inferieur qui réduit le temps de chauffe de la cafetière et évite à la mouture de chauffer et de perdre en arômes. Son feu devrait être plus doux.
Agree except for the not using hot water bit. You want to speed up the contact time if nothing else. The reason it’s sputtering here (and why you can also see it ran down the side) is because he didn’t have a good seal which is essential for a good brew. This was obviously cause by blooming it, which is a stupid idea, but people also do this by making the mistake of overpacking the basket, letting coffee grinds ruin your seal.
Uh ok so first of all if you have coffee leaking down the side of your pot that means the seal is not tight enough which means the pressure isn't right which would explain why your coffee looks so watery at the end there
I've been filling mine halfway up the valve, sometimes above...for decades! Never had a problem. Water above the valve will never prevent it from doing its job if need be. I never heard one of these ever failing or exploding.
Blooming the grounds is a better flavor profile. But coffee is subjective. The only wrong information is you claiming what he is doing is incorrect. I make moka pots both ways. Traditional with no extra mods or using modified brewing (putting hot water in, blooming, adding an aero press paper filter on top). Both ways make different profiles and are both good.
@jjr8948 use a grind size a little bit finer than what is used for drip coffee. (espresso grind is way too fine) Fill the lower basin up to just below the gasket with hot water, fill the inner basket all the way with coffee. (But do not press it down) screw all the parts together and make sure it is closed tightly. Put it on low heat on the stove (with a gas burner the flame should not go up the side of the pot at all) and watch with the lid open until the coffee comes out, and turn off the heat when you start seeing air bubbles/hearing sputtering sounds. Then you can close the lid and pour out some coffee to enjoy, or stir inside the the upper pitcher with a spoon first if you prefer.
I think you tried to adapt the pre-infusion idea from espresso making, and it has a point, since it works well with filter coffee. But so far I cannot agree on an improvment for my mokka. What did bring improvement was a clean pot, preheated water, open lid, flow riding. Good day, sir.
I know north americans are really quite versatile in what concerns anything outside their countries (usa and canada) but even though we all know that it was invented in Italy, that moka pot can be seen everywhere else in the world. It's not just because it's about coffee that it retrains to Italy
This is a joke right?, First of all the state of your Moka pot is disgustingly awful and should be cleaned NOW. Second do not pack it down its not a espresso machine its not making espressos its making Moka, Never let your pot just boil like that it will cause a horribly awful sour taste. And for the love of god show some respect its a Bialeti.
Your so butt hurt over some coffee 💀 alot of folks don't even wash their moka pot the soap fucks up the pot I still wash mine but alot of people don't wash them plus the older the better ik some folks payed good money just for some very old moka pots
I'm in favor of packing it. It might not be an espresso, but it's probably the closest method before actually using an espresso machine and considering the little time the water will be in touch with the coffe the little packing could help to retain the water a tiny bit more and extract more flavours. Don't be that hateful, there are a lot of influencers doing this kind of recipes with an almost new bialetti and I bet that's the first and only time they'll ever use it. And for the record, a bialetti it's only 16usd, its not like you're destroying the finest peace of Italian engineer.
I have all coffee devices at home. In an ordinary day, I prepare my coffee with Moka pot because it has a softer, weaker and watery taste. However if I want strong, fruity taste coffee then I use espresso machine.
Expresó coffee preferably is what you want to put in the Moka Bustello Supreme , Cafe La Llave , sello rojo . You’re Welcome Guys . Order these 3 if you haven’t put these in the pot . I’ve had Illy & Medaglia D'Oro Italian Roast Espresso not the same
I'm glad you said similar to espresso, I bought my Moka pot when I was new to the coffee world because someone told me that it could make authentic espresso. I was disapointed when i found out that what i was making wasn't actually espresso
I've done a ton of research on this, and Moka pots DO make espresso... just not modern espresso. When it was invented as a stovetop espresso maker, the first Gaggia 9 bar espresso machine hadn't been created yet. After that 9 bar style became the standard, it left the moka pot in the dust with an antiquated definition of espresso.
@@borgertman The Moka pot is not an espresso. The clue is in the word itself, 'espresso'. The meaning is along the idea of the coffee being 'expressed out'. The first espresso machines were manual pull presses. The second essence of the name was 'express' in terms of speed in which the extraction is made. Moka pots need to boil the water to create the pressure to make the same water to pass through the grounds. An espresso is working on pressurised steam and moisture to pass through the grounds at much higher bars. The biggest aim of these was to speed up the brewing and serving of fresh coffee. The coffee brewing styles they were competing with took minutes longer.
There are a few things left out from this video that are important to know: 1) Most people don't know this, but moka pots are disposable, so you should throw them out after one use. 2) Only use bottled mineral water, that's the type moka pots are meant to use, and anything else will ruin the flavor of your coffee. 3) Moka pots can be used as mugs, just open the lid and drink directly from the top. Aluminum is an excellent thermal insulator, so there's no risk of burning yourself while drinking from it.
This is BS. THE greatest coffee device ever invented is a jar that you cold brew it in, overnight. Tastes great, less acidic, barely any thought or labor required, easy to clean.
This is just terrible - James Hoffmann actually concluded after dozens of tests that blooming won't help. You don't 'boil away' either... Keep the heat as low as possible. Starting with boiling water has the opposite reason stated here.... It's not too hot burn your coffee... It's to avoid the first water hitting the grounds is too cold.
You should have it open as if it is spraying you you’ve burnt the coffee grounds and over brewed it. Low to medium heat for maximum flavour and zero bitterness.
Your moka pot is not sealing properly. Should be getting a continuous, slow flow of coffee. That surge of boiling water means its losing pressure and you're not getting all the brew it should, plus it should burn the coffee.
I appreciate you at least say "similar to espresso"... As no matter how one advertises it, if the pull isn't made at 6-8 bars of pressure and grind isn't exact, it's not true espresso
Put room temp water instead of hot, because then it becomes to hot to twist the top closed, unless you want an extra step added. Also just add your grounds, twist the top on, and put it on low medium heat. Do poor hot water over the grounds. That b.s. just do it the traditional way.
dark roast + coarse ground + drip method , 14g ground approx 250ml hot water. alot time saved and taste way better than moka pot. moka pot just generates too much heat and taste muddy
It's called blooming. Anyone who makes pour over coffee will know what that is, it's to release carbon dioxide present in the ground coffee. I've tried it and I think it does make the cup less acidic and taste a bit richer. It's not necessary but it's interesting. It makes my pot flow much more evenly when I do it. Technically none of this is "necessary", you could just make instant coffee couldn't you?
an italian grandmother died after watching this video.
Grannyy nooo 😭
I'm scary gen Z when i'm watch this video 😄😄😄
Enjoy your burned coffee
A Cuban abuelita somewhere died too after watching this craziness! 🤦🏼♀️
even us coffee nerds died
This is criminal.... I don't even know where to begin. This has to be a troll
What exactly wrong, as moka user i see as mistake only the ending with boiling water
@@crispindry2815 thanks for the answer, in makes sense. But what about little bit of water like on video? I do it only couple of days, and Imo it very good
@@crispindry2815everyone that’s Italian that I’ve seen says to leave the kld closed?
And there is this one a guy named Alex did something like this, it’s fun to watch though
man coffee snobs really just be out here claiming that everyone who isn't their god with glasses doesn't have the foggiest about how to make coffee, even when they literally just regurgitate what the guy says. @@mishan3168
This video is exactly what NOT to do with a Moka pot!
Best thing to do is put it in the dumpster and buy a better coffee maker.
@@paintspot1509 Yes, if you don't know how to use it properly, by all means. Stick to the idiot proof coffee pots.
@@em1860😂👍
@@paintspot1509this is one of the best. This idiot just uses it 80% wrong
Argumente!
"fine, fine, fine, not too fine, but pretty fine" is the coffee grind measurement system we've all been waiting for
😂😂😂😂😂😂
still better than the system they use in the US.
My Nonna passed in 2015, but I’m pretty sure if she was still around this would have killed her.
Please never come to Italy
what did he do wrong? genuine question
@@revilo9792you do not use hot water if you are not in a hurry because you want the right extraction of waxes with warm coffee grounds to be more effective. You do not water the coffee grounds because pressure might get too high and break the moka, you do not exceed the water levels to be sure the pressure is the one the cookpot can handle. So basically this coffee is not only likely to damage the moka, but it probably could taste way better if done correctly
@@manuelsza7064 thanks for letting me know.. I've just got one and I've been using hot water 😮💨
@@revilo9792 I wouldn't worry about using hot water, you can get better control. James Hoffmann has a great guide.
I don’t know. What you say is traditional but I have made moka pot coffee with a what you say and some of what the guy does in the video tastes way better, not burnt and bitter like the moka pot coffee I was used to. Although I didn’t bloom the coffee and likely won’t, using hot water somehow tastes better, you should try it and let me know what you think. Maybe it is placebo
1- you should use coarse grounded coffee not fine so there is space steam can flow through to avoid high pressure hazards. 2- you should start with cold water not boiling and on medium low heat it is brewed fast enough, you don't ruin it and have it faster. 3- never pour water on top of coffee unless you are looking for shitty extraction. 4- if coffee is spattering in this manner you did amazing job burning your coffee feel free to flush it down the toilet
how much coffee in gram and how much water 😢
Ben detto, quel caffè sembra acquoso e fare schifo, sembra quello uscito dalla mia moka elettrica non toccata da 50 anni in fondo all'armadio delle caffettiere
Nah,... I already prove, with hot water it is no bitterness! Proven!
Oui vous avez raison mais sauf sur l'eau chaude dans la partie inferieur qui réduit le temps de chauffe de la cafetière et évite à la mouture de chauffer et de perdre en arômes. Son feu devrait être plus doux.
Agree except for the not using hot water bit. You want to speed up the contact time if nothing else. The reason it’s sputtering here (and why you can also see it ran down the side) is because he didn’t have a good seal which is essential for a good brew. This was obviously cause by blooming it, which is a stupid idea, but people also do this by making the mistake of overpacking the basket, letting coffee grinds ruin your seal.
Uh ok so first of all if you have coffee leaking down the side of your pot that means the seal is not tight enough which means the pressure isn't right which would explain why your coffee looks so watery at the end there
It could be old gasket
Wouldn’t adding more water to the basket make the level go higher than the safety valve?
If it goes down the pipe into the water chamber then it will increase the water volume to above the safety valve.
The mocha pot can explode!
yup
I've been filling mine halfway up the valve, sometimes above...for decades! Never had a problem. Water above the valve will never prevent it from doing its job if need be. I never heard one of these ever failing or exploding.
@@goleylla he didn’t fill the main reservoir fully, looks like halfway…it won’t overflow
That looks watery tho
because pouring on the coffee before ruins the extraction later lmao
@@tommasobiondi8273no its not... its a light roast.
I thought the same
There was more incorrect information in this than there was factual💀
Blooming the grounds is a better flavor profile. But coffee is subjective. The only wrong information is you claiming what he is doing is incorrect. I make moka pots both ways. Traditional with no extra mods or using modified brewing (putting hot water in, blooming, adding an aero press paper filter on top). Both ways make different profiles and are both good.
@@Freeflier1978Silence, dunce. 90% of it was wrong and no, it isn't "all subjective".
Very fine fine....not too fine coffee.... You are shit
How does one actually use this properly never made coffee with one
@jjr8948 use a grind size a little bit finer than what is used for drip coffee. (espresso grind is way too fine)
Fill the lower basin up to just below the gasket with hot water, fill the inner basket all the way with coffee. (But do not press it down) screw all the parts together and make sure it is closed tightly. Put it on low heat on the stove (with a gas burner the flame should not go up the side of the pot at all) and watch with the lid open until the coffee comes out, and turn off the heat when you start seeing air bubbles/hearing sputtering sounds. Then you can close the lid and pour out some coffee to enjoy, or stir inside the the upper pitcher with a spoon first if you prefer.
I think you tried to adapt the pre-infusion idea from espresso making, and it has a point, since it works well with filter coffee. But so far I cannot agree on an improvment for my mokka. What did bring improvement was a clean pot, preheated water, open lid, flow riding. Good day, sir.
Okay guys so you're going to use very fine fine ground coffee, not too fine but pretty fine coffee. HAHA
I was like " So how fine?" 😂😂
I know north americans are really quite versatile in what concerns anything outside their countries (usa and canada) but even though we all know that it was invented in Italy, that moka pot can be seen everywhere else in the world. It's not just because it's about coffee that it retrains to Italy
Thank you!
Cleanest moka pot i've ever seen👍
Thank you for actually saying the grind!
This is a joke right?, First of all the state of your Moka pot is disgustingly awful and should be cleaned NOW. Second do not pack it down its not a espresso machine its not making espressos its making Moka, Never let your pot just boil like that it will cause a horribly awful sour taste. And for the love of god show some respect its a Bialeti.
I'm sorry you feel this way.
It's Bialetti, not 'Bialeti.'
Your so butt hurt over some coffee 💀 alot of folks don't even wash their moka pot the soap fucks up the pot I still wash mine but alot of people don't wash them plus the older the better ik some folks payed good money just for some very old moka pots
I'm in favor of packing it. It might not be an espresso, but it's probably the closest method before actually using an espresso machine and considering the little time the water will be in touch with the coffe the little packing could help to retain the water a tiny bit more and extract more flavours.
Don't be that hateful, there are a lot of influencers doing this kind of recipes with an almost new bialetti and I bet that's the first and only time they'll ever use it. And for the record, a bialetti it's only 16usd, its not like you're destroying the finest peace of Italian engineer.
Instructions on my original Bialeti state:
-do not use very fine ground coffee, use medium grind for moka
-do not pack coffee into funnel
Bro summoned every Italian ever into his comment section 😭😭😭
I have all coffee devices at home. In an ordinary day, I prepare my coffee with Moka pot because it has a softer, weaker and watery taste. However if I want strong, fruity taste coffee then I use espresso machine.
This made my day! Hahaha 🤣 ☕️
I just got one yesterday for my birthday; I cannot tell you how surprised I was at the difference in flavour this provided.
Thank you for the demonstration ,just inherited a mokapot from my brother 🙏
You are amazing!
You’re going to have fine, fine coffee. Not too fine. Just fine. Clear as mud dude. 👌🏻
Expresó coffee preferably is what you want to put in the Moka
Bustello Supreme , Cafe La Llave , sello rojo . You’re Welcome Guys . Order these 3 if you haven’t put these in the pot . I’ve had Illy & Medaglia D'Oro Italian Roast Espresso not the same
It is now not safe for you in Italy.
Is that like pre-infusion?
Best example I have seen of how not to use a MOKA pot
The song at the end 😂
I swear I saw Oscar the Grouch when he lifted the lid.
Watch James Hoffman's Moka pot series if you really wanna start moka pot coffee
I'm glad you said similar to espresso, I bought my Moka pot when I was new to the coffee world because someone told me that it could make authentic espresso. I was disapointed when i found out that what i was making wasn't actually espresso
I've done a ton of research on this, and Moka pots DO make espresso... just not modern espresso. When it was invented as a stovetop espresso maker, the first Gaggia 9 bar espresso machine hadn't been created yet. After that 9 bar style became the standard, it left the moka pot in the dust with an antiquated definition of espresso.
@@borgertman The Moka pot is not an espresso. The clue is in the word itself, 'espresso'. The meaning is along the idea of the coffee being 'expressed out'. The first espresso machines were manual pull presses. The second essence of the name was 'express' in terms of speed in which the extraction is made. Moka pots need to boil the water to create the pressure to make the same water to pass through the grounds. An espresso is working on pressurised steam and moisture to pass through the grounds at much higher bars. The biggest aim of these was to speed up the brewing and serving of fresh coffee. The coffee brewing styles they were competing with took minutes longer.
Coffee with tetnus. Lovely
Well u helped me make ☕️ today 😅i feel like an expert now 😂ijs
There are a few things left out from this video that are important to know:
1) Most people don't know this, but moka pots are disposable, so you should throw them out after one use.
2) Only use bottled mineral water, that's the type moka pots are meant to use, and anything else will ruin the flavor of your coffee.
3) Moka pots can be used as mugs, just open the lid and drink directly from the top. Aluminum is an excellent thermal insulator, so there's no risk of burning yourself while drinking from it.
At this point, you might as well put the coffee grounds in your mouth and spit it into a cup.
😂
I like to slightly compact mine then add sugar on top makes the coffee more dense and adds a nice bold flavor without making too bitter.
Yup
thanks I'm actually going to try that on my next Brew
Mine stopped working. What did I do wrong
My Nonna just walked out of the room after seeing this video
Mine just walked out her grave
LOL!!!! @@frogstock2597
How to avoid burnt taste from mokapot?
“My nonna, she a’spinnin in her grave right now!” - Andrew Shultz voice
😂 an italian house with "biscati"
No...
has anybody actually tried doing this instead of just following the hive mind and saying it's wrong though
As an Italian I am offended, your moka pot looks like you wash it with dish soap, Dont wash with dish soap
I was thinking dishwasher 😬
Judging from the stain, he prolly uses a dishwasher, which is even more wrong than soap.
I see that. And thought this is going downhill fast.
legend has it hes still packing it down
Nice🎉🇹🇭🙏
The True Title of this video:
HOW TO GET WORST COFFEE FROM MOKA POT.
Clean your pot mate
Seen the end credits to Luca?? The dad, massimo is using a mokapot ☕️🇮🇹
This is BS. THE greatest coffee device ever invented is a jar that you cold brew it in, overnight. Tastes great, less acidic, barely any thought or labor required, easy to clean.
I just melted the handle off of mine. Turns out the burner I used was too big
This is just terrible - James Hoffmann actually concluded after dozens of tests that blooming won't help. You don't 'boil away' either... Keep the heat as low as possible. Starting with boiling water has the opposite reason stated here.... It's not too hot burn your coffee... It's to avoid the first water hitting the grounds is too cold.
O!M!G!
Why does he look like a genie ready to grant me three wishes
😮 I’m surprised that handle hasn’t melted off… pots are typically placed on the edge.
❤🎉
I was about to ask if there are any Italians in the crowd, but then I saw the comments ...
How I wish these tips just remained secret forever.
You should have it open as if it is spraying you you’ve burnt the coffee grounds and over brewed it. Low to medium heat for maximum flavour and zero bitterness.
The moka pot makes bitter coffee by default. It's how they like coffee in Italy.
Looks like tea
have gotten sick from drinking coffee out of that yet?
I’m Kazakh, but you insulted me with that video 😂
Your moka pot is not sealing properly. Should be getting a continuous, slow flow of coffee. That surge of boiling water means its losing pressure and you're not getting all the brew it should, plus it should burn the coffee.
How to make an americano with a moka pot
don't do this
Looking at the comments I can see he achieved his goal. Get a lot of comments.
Italians have left the chat.
dude! your coffee spits out and at the end it's very light, how come! pretty sure it's very bitter!
"You gonna use very fine fine ground coffee, not too fine but pretty fine" 🙄🙄🙄🙄
looks to me that this guy is trolling :D
or, he actually thinks he's doing right ...either way, this clip needs to be deemed offensive to Bialetti :-)
I appreciate you at least say "similar to espresso"... As no matter how one advertises it, if the pull isn't made at 6-8 bars of pressure and grind isn't exact, it's not true espresso
It's just 'sparkling disappointment'
When you show up to the interview with no experience
Fine, fine...not too fine, but pretty fine...
Mine always turns out to look like 10 year old motor oil 😂
Put room temp water instead of hot, because then it becomes to hot to twist the top closed, unless you want an extra step added. Also just add your grounds, twist the top on, and put it on low medium heat. Do poor hot water over the grounds. That b.s. just do it the traditional way.
Very fine, fine ground coffe, not to fine but pretty fine????
Isn’t it supposed to be coarse?
reciper for american coffee: 10 gallons water,one brown towel,squeeze the towel
dark roast + coarse ground + drip method , 14g ground approx 250ml hot water.
alot time saved and taste way better than moka pot. moka pot just generates too much heat and taste muddy
Okay he's definitely trolling after he tried to take a sip and pretended it was good
I dont think you did any of that right. That pot looks like it was in a dump for 20 years.
Guys he’s joking but it doesn’t seem like it haha. DO NOT DO THIS
Wrong bro just wrong you are supposed to open the top during brewing and if it's sealed correctly then it doesn't spill or create any noise!
Don't let other italians watch this
Esto debería ser retirado de Instagram, es un crimen.
Dude is getting jumped the moment he steps a foot into Italy
coffee or tea
That coffee was angry exploding all around…
You need a finer ground!!
The pour over part is unnecessary.
It's called blooming. Anyone who makes pour over coffee will know what that is, it's to release carbon dioxide present in the ground coffee. I've tried it and I think it does make the cup less acidic and taste a bit richer. It's not necessary but it's interesting. It makes my pot flow much more evenly when I do it. Technically none of this is "necessary", you could just make instant coffee couldn't you?
And this is Why the coffee is nearly transparent…
Mine doesn't bring the liquid up
That is surprising...
This has to be a lie, I´m horrified. Now we both know that was bitter as fuck.
Boiii that coffee looks yellow, what the f are you doing
🎉
You don't need to do it that way. Fill it up. And it works.
WATCHED 20 VIDEOS AND THEY DIDNT HELP ME AT ALL YOU EXPLAINED THAT PERFECTLY THANK YOU SIR
How is that coffee still watery after all that ground coffee? 🫣
It shouldn't be spurting at all