Airbus A350 SIMULATOR - Dual Engine Failure at Cruise Level (ENG sub)
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Pretty much the worst case scenario - both engines flame out at cruising level. Watch as these two experieced captains deal with the situation and bring the aircraft down safely. Extrodinary focus, concentration, and adherance to SOP. This is for you UA-cam commenters who think a pilot is basically an obscelete computer programmer. Think again!
This small clip is part of a whole movie produced and owned by PilotsEye.tv
"Just for info, Wir sind overweight, it's no big deal na?"
their Denglish is hilarious.
Well i prefer Denglisch instead of Frengliché!
@@bongiovi7618 says the english speaking comunity after stealing words like "kindergarten"^^
4:43 "We are overweight but it's no big deal"
Oktoberfest is no joke
10/10 joke hahah
Right, wouldn’t it be better to burn some fuel before landing? That’s my doubt here.
@@tachacastilho First ECAM action states LAND ASAP. Due to the fact that you can't clearly assess the reason of the dual engine failure (eg: fuel contamination), it might happen again while you're jettisoning to reduce weight. If times permits, overweight checklist has to be run but any weight above max landing weight won't restrict you to land. Just a much needed maintenance will be required for the engines and the overweight landing after an exciting day at work!
@@pierre-olivierdebrogniez2155 That’s true! Maybe I got confused with a SINGLE ENG failure...but yes, landing ASAP should always be applied in this case. Thanks for the enlightenment! Safe flights.
**laughs in 200 tons**
Pilots are incredible under pressure, ik this is a sim but if you listen to cvr recordings of accidents the pilots almost always stay super calm and fight all the way to the end. People like to talk about crashes but the amount of malfunctioning planes that have been saved is incredible. For every crash, there was 500 successful emergency landings.
IRL: “How many souls on board? Do you require fire trucks? Would you not be able to make it over to this other airport?”
That’s what I always hear on these real life emergencies
Well, you could assume they cut that out to fit the flameout at cruise down to landing into a five minute video ;)
Somewhere in the future in 797 two engines flame out.
Landing checklist:
- Coffe & milk: set and check
- Sugar: On and Available
landing checklist completed.
Lol
That’s standard on Swiss aircrafts - with a lil but of chocolate 🍫
@@Mogry51 hahaha :)
According to my video game experience, they should deploy chaff, fire missiles and drop their bombs.
777jones according to an old highly realistic simulator I played on the N64, they need to do a barrel roll.
Reed20v ahhh yes, increasing speed by barrel rolling, Diddy king racing if I’m not mistaken
At least drop the bombs to reduce aircraft weight. Then no overweight landing???
"Landing checklist.
-Runway condition: Dry
Landing checklist completed" lol
Thanks for the likes guys ;)
Because it's an automatic fill checklist, it doesn't show all things already done.
Another exemple is Parking Checklist :
"Parking checklist
- Parking Brake : On
Checklist completed"
@@Elrs171 I know
@@Elrs171 airbus in 10 years:
aircraft startup checklist - start button.......push
aircraft startup checklist complete
Henry Chan Hey Siri，start the engine
Missed the Final check - Trousers Brown? - Check.
Would've been cool to re-introduce the dual engine failure below 2000ft. Just to watch some very fast decision making.
Amazing teamwork! They did such a good hand in hand work! Well done!
German pilots just saved the lifes of 350 passengers and crew: "slightly exciting". XD love it.
Superb stuff. So professional. You guys deserve every penny you are paid.
Dual engine failure and stop having all instruments is amazing
Can we get serious now?
They were expecting dual engine failures, they know how to react and know exactly where to land.
You don't take human factor in real life when this really happens.
Sully
They didn’t, this was a test for instructors, making sure they know their shit. Often days the pilots don’t know if they will get a emergency, they changed it since sully.
They always know exactly where they land, since they discuss diverting airports along the whole route on briefing before the flight. So in case of an emergency, they immediately have their site to land for each point along the route. Of course it also depends on the immediate conditions.
No they weren’t. And besides this ECAM action checklist is far more detailed than an A320 like sully’s
"Pretty much the worst case scenario - both engines flame out at cruising level."
Captain Sully : "hold my beer..."
I'm a little surprised the checklist didn't direct them to put on supplemental O2 masks immediately as like the first line item?
Since it's just an engine flameout, there's probably still a few minutes before the cabin altitude hits a dangerous level.
@@sunnyyan1080 I was under the impression most airlines changed their checklists so that putting on your mask is the first step after the South Dakota "ghost flight" Learjet incident in the late '90s, it was found that the pilots had waited too long to deploy their masks and had gone hypoxic leading to the crash and the deaths of everyone aboard. Even after just 30 seconds in reduced oxygen you can be seriously cognitively impaired.
Sarah Riedel that was because the cabin altitude rose with the aircrafts altitude and exceeded 10,000ft because it wasn’t pressurised in the first place. In this scenario the cabin would be pressurised at 6000ft. When the engines failed the cabin altitude would slowly rise but not excessively so they’d have a few minutes until the cabin altitude reached 10,000ft
@@Sarah.Riedel this is qrh made by airbus
Both engines fail
“This is not good”
Great video. If you have the Pretrip and post trip break down I would love to be a fly on the wall. No one is perfect and would love to hear what the instructor had to beef about the sim session
Right seat had a gap in the visor of his O2 mask. Had he been under smoke he he would be in big trouble.
Great for CRM training and the crew at the back know what happens in the flight deck and how busy they get when something happens BUT…
The passenger masks were not released until minutes after the pilots, there was no call to the purser to secure the cabin, not even an “emergency descent, emergency descent” PA so I can assure you there could still be carts in the middle of the cabin.
CRM goes both ways, not only between pilots, but also how things are in the back and that your crew might need more time than you to prepare everything for landing/ditching.
I often have to explain 3 times how to buckle the seatbelts to my passengers
If engines fail the aircraft does not depressurise immediately. The outflow valve closes trapping the air inside so it leaks out more slowly. Masks for crew is just precaution, they could wait for bit longer but the cabin altitude warning would disrupt the flow of the engine restart attempt.
This Plane is a marvel of human engineering
i didn't know there is runaway in the middle of Atlantic ocean
excellent flying. very impressive.
At the end of the simulation you can see how sweaty the captain's face is. I think he found it more than a little exciting!
I would say its more due to wearing that fullface oxygen mask
Pilots hate those simulators, they may loose their job if they fail
Very Very VERY Realistic. I thought this was a real. Just WOW.
Why is the instruction to use the oxygen masks not first on the list?
I think in that case there would still be enough oxygen in the cabin to do the other stuff beforehand
I think because dual engine flameout only cuts the source of air bleed, so since this is not rapid depressurization, there is still quite a few minutes before the air pressure drop to a dangerous level. Therefore some more important things can be done before oxygen mask.
@@zbx1425 Ah, that would explain it. 👍
I wanted them to land with no engines at all! The engine coming back was anticlimatic. Of course if I were up there I would pray for the engines to restart, but this was a simulator.
Maybe try and conserve airspeed and even start accelerating ASAP? Significantly improving the airstart opportunity to support an APU bleed start?
Wow! Interesting ! I like the colorful indicates in the cockpit !
This aircraft makes the procedures so easy!
Aircraft nowadays! To those (me included) who find themselves difficult to move on from A340, A300, MD-11, B767/757, B744, etc... you gotta let it go before being left far behind
I wonder how this scenario would be from a passengers point of view. The pilots did not inform about anything as far as I could understand. Would just the "fasten seatbelts" signs go on and oxygen masks fall out and the flight attendants would say something generic like "technical issues, please stay calm" until they have landed?
Worst case scenario. It is a happy little coincidence to have Orly to land without engines.
Would not say so. Worst case is an uncontrolled fire on board. Flying in Europe you will always have enough places to land if you find yourself without any engine at cruise level.
It would have been interesting to see how they would have acted if the engines had not restarted
"We may end up in the Hudson"... ;)
Gimli Glider
What if the copilot was flying it😂
Now i know what i want for Christmas
They did it well, but there was an easier way: stand up, get to the guy seating back who's touching buttons and making engines failures, knock him off and continue flying
Sitting here right before my pc and watching this while hoping we will make it out alive...hope they can land it
I fly an a320 now, but what a dream to be able to fly the a350
Considering the EAD that just came out its spooky this video comes up on my feed...
Fantastic video!
My only concern with the procedure is why do the pilots put oxygen masks on when they come near the middle/bottom of the checklist? Shouldn't it be the first thing the pilots should do before assessing an emergency situation when losing both engines? Just wondering....
My thoughts would be there is enough oxygen in the cockpit to for the pilots to assess for a few minutes what's going on. Overtime, the oxygen supply would be depleted but the pilots will already put on the gas masks. So yeah I could be wrong here.
@ncsakany loss of engines --> loss of compressor bleed air --> loss of cabin pressure. however it might take some time for the remainder of the pressure to leak out.
Italian ATC: We are checking, we are checking
What if the engine did not restart at all.? It would have been interesting to see that procedure as well.
this is why i still would prefer a 4 engine Aircraft, and not an ETOPS 2 engine Airplane for Atlantic Crossing. YES i know that the Charles Lindberg´s Spirit of St Louis had Single Engine, Powered by a Wright Whirlwind J-5C 223-hp radial engine from 1923 (!)
4 engines planes have also suffered from all engine flameout due to volcanic debris and fuel starvation. So why is it actually safer? Having 4 engines means are twice as likely to have an engine fail than a twin engined plane
The evidence categorically shows that more engines is no defence whatsoever.
Imagine if they were in space shuttle
Pilot: Mayday, Mayday, Mayday, we're at FL500 descending at 10000 feet per minute, all engines flame out, request divert to closest airport.
Diverting to Poland.
I can understand both English and German as I imagine you can, but I did expect you to stick to one language.
I hope the passengers if that flight are ok...
It's all fun and games in the zimuwater. :D A bit more exciting when it's ETOPS over the ocean. :)
Do they need to use oxygen masks because the engines are providing pressurization for the cabin?
Yes
They should do one where they've been hit by a heat-seeker.
hot damn they did it so well it appears scripted (doubt it though) lovely demonstration.
The big difference is that the pilots in the simulator know they are not in danger of dying.
That’s why you do the sim. Would you like to do for real the first time?
Instructor behind : what is happening..........!!!!!
Size of the pilots nose surpised he didnt smell trouble coming lol
Can we get serious now?
Огромное спасибо за видео!
I really want to know what happens if the engines dont restart
The same. If you are in cruise over Europe you will always make it to an appropriate airport
They just started engines when it started stall. It would'be interesting if thay not started engines and landed without engines
Good performance 👍
Does the central display automatically display relevant checklists? Brilliant.
Yeah it's whatever a pilot is talking about when they mention an "ECAM" (Electronic centralised aircraft monitor) - it's an Airbus thing. Boeing has a similar display, but the Airbus is more focused on what the pilot needs to know, right then. For example it greatly simplifies the takeoff and landing preparation, as the ECAM will show blue text for items not prepared, so a checklist you will often hear "Landing checklist, ECAM - 'Landing', no blue"
0:00 if u click at the beginning u can see that this guy pressed something that made both engines fail
Well yeah…….its a simulator
My basic flight in msfs but with a320 neo
Still no dislikes maybe this vid is a legend!
JarBeast dammit you jinxed it 😂
Ahh man sum people were paid to make u have dislikes
Wahnsinn , absolute Spannung .
Spilled two cups of coffee then...
background music name pls??
Were dis at?
what kind off hub is in ur user
2:23 can someone explain why the plane is still pumping 180kg of fuel per hour in the engine? Or is the autostart trying to restart automatically?
By the looks of it the aircraft will attempt an automatic relight even without the Start switch in the IGN position
Shouldn't oxygen masks be first on checklist if cabin is depressurized..
DarkStar it doesn’t depressurise immediately after engine shutdown. There is air in the cabin and it takes a few minutes for it to all go out the outflow valve. The cabin altitude is much lower than on San older aircraft so they have longer too. Only when the cabin altitude exceeds 10,000ft do they need it
Shouldn't the O2 mask the first step?
Not for dual engine failure. When the engines fail the outflow valve will close to slow the rate of cabin air leaking out. It’s only when the cabin altitude exceeds 10,000ft that you’d would make it an immediate priority
Title says cruise level, crew says 10,000 feet. From actual cruise of 35-40k they could easily glide to an runway in either the North America or Europe.
Also, the simulation had a successful restart so really not a challenge
They are descending to 10,000ft from cruise level. The SAT is -52. You won't get that at 10,000ft apart from maybe polar regions or northern Siberia.
From 35000ft you can glide about 90 miles.
Exactly which systems does RAT power? does it include ice detection probes?
Depends on the Aircraft and how it’s electrical system is configured. On the A350 i believe it powers the AC EMERGENCY BUS 1+2 so any or most systems connected to these will receive power
me during Zoom call 1:41
I have a question. They had no 1 restart then did a right turn towards the bad engine. Would not have been better to turn left?
Yeah, you're supposed to turn into the good engine, since the good engine is producing more lift on that side. I think the tester said "right or left turn, your choice" to see if he would make the right decision, and he didn't lol
They were in a descent with idle power, because they were about 5000ft too high (FL150 and 30 miles out) and had to lose altitude urgently. With the engine running at idle power it doesn’t matter which way you turn. Anyway, this is an A350 and not a DC3, so the autopilot is well capable of handling a turn over the dead engine. Anyways - more of a prop, than a jet concern.
Beams he made the right decision because it makes more sense to turn right if theres thrust on left engine because the asymmetric thrust will support the turn.
@@THYB737 Wrong. You want the asym thrust on the low side of the turn; high wing is turning at a higher rate of speed, meaning more lift even without a running engine.
Fantastic
Would have loved to see a no relight
Ok now try it when there isn’t a runway conveniently close
ETOPS. A runway is always conveniently close. And even with ETOPS, a dual engine failure at cruise level usually means they wouldnt make it. The only reason they made it cuz they got the second engine back on.
Good job
Aren't the pilot's meant to put oxygen masks on one at a time? One pilot monitors flight whilst the other puts their oxygen mask on, then vice versa?
No, the priority is put the mask on, and establish communications. You're input makes sense, but the priority is to protect the crew, then to fly.
The plane won’t depressurise immediately. You have time to carry out other tasks before donning oxygen masks
Iam having problems with physics no thrust, no forward motion aircraft overweight it should go down not immediately but sooner or later the plane will give in to gravity for lack of forward thrust 🤔. I can see the space shuttle doing that but it's smaller.
All aircraft glide.
i like to have a setup like that
His nose is so pointy wow
This system is from ingersol ranger germany...
What happens if this happens half way across the Atlantic?
Well, at least your feet will get wet.
Too unlikely to train pilots. Besides all you can do is head in direction of nearest airport, declare mayday and location and attempt restart
Please make new simulators with real cabin pressures.
For what purpose?
Haha "Oh, zis is not good"
It was easy because one engine restarted. Had it not, well, different story.
nope, if you are in cruise over Europe you will always make it to an appropriate airport even without engines.
when both engine's flamed out how the plane is still flying for so long can someone explain that? noob here
Because it has wings
@@tubeymcdee no i mean when it lose the engine and thrust how still flying for so long
They lose altitude to maintain speed and at cruise they fortunately have a lot of altitude to lose
Wasay Sabri because the plane becomes a very heavy glider. They are descending to maintain speed and maintain lift over the wings
The first thing they did was get on the radio to speak to ATC, would it not be wise to tackle the immediate issue first, then communicate once you've got a bit of a handle on things? I'm just an average person that doesn't know how things should be done though, haha.
First thing they did was get the plane in a descent to maintain speed at green dot, so they flew the plane (autopilot is still on) then they had no reason to suddenly change heading or anything so they have now done the navigate part (and would get obstructions from ATC)
amazing skill
So they had an all-engine flame out and the lives of everyone in board is at risk.
Germans: It was a little exciting
yeah. cause this is a simulator.
Germans: it's chill, we have checklists and routines ^^,
@@msi4887 dont ruin that joke dude...
@@x_x_x_x7367 his was funnier lol
world's 10 don’t do it don’t do it don’t do it control yourself.... R/WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSHHHHHHH
"Engines not good, flame out"
"okay"
"We are overweight but it's no big deal"
"Dump 1/3 of the economy class passengers"
🤣
They should make it really realistic and have ATC asking them to repeat the emergency because they weren’t paying attention to the mayday, and then have ATC bother them with souls and fuel on board and other stuff while they’re trying to run the checklists.
🤣🤣
In reality the pilots can ignore ATC until a suitable time. They are not obliged to immediately reply to ATC. Aviate, Navigate, Communicate
Pilot: "Mayday Mayday Mayday dual engine flameout we are descending"
ATC: "...Ahhh so you wanna declare an emergency or?"
@@Sarah.Riedel doesn't mayday call automatically declares an emergency?
@@angelkilier it's supposed to yes, that was the joke lol.
Simulator is worth more than an entire neighborhood.
Simulators costing more than an entire neighborhood are made so you usually don't destroy an entire neighborhood.
Aaron de Bruyn lol true 😂
I'd be concerned if it's only worth one house.
Depends if its a neighbourhood in Beverly Hills, all those mega-mansions owned by film stars and Kardashians..heck of a lot of $$$.
A simulation like this can cost to 10milion euros up to 20milion
zis is not gute
lol
I akree
Hans vee aar fackt
That’s some german dudes they can’t speak well
Get to da Chappa Now!! Go!!
I wish I had this simulator in my back yard
Manny L it’s dead cheap compare to real one plus cost of running and risk. Also you don’t have to worry about some treehuggers glued to runways,
once youre at a cruise level and AP is on and fmc is edited, there isnt much to do. its cool but not that worth it
me directrly in bedroom
Bob I’m glad I don’t have one, I think the outside world would become non existent to me 😂😂
Might get a bit wet
No checklist item to change underwear?
made my day lol
That's the after Standing Checklist
LMAO
As long as your ram air turbine comes out you have electrical power and hydraulics. That gives you enough time to get the APU started. As long as you’re near a runaway it’s doable. Overwater would be scary.
Will Warden Isn‘t there a battery that covers until the APU is started or does it really depend on the RAM?
Such emergency scenarios truly shows us the importance of good CRM and swift decision making. Kudos to the pilots and thanks for sharing this awesome video :)
ya speaking both english and German on the flight deck is a great start for good CRM LOL
Well I fought it stands for communicate react management
@@herobo123456 they are all German. It’s fine. ATC and official coms all in perfectly good English and non SOP words in German also fine. You’ll find this all over the world in professional flight decks. English over the air, easing checklists and all calls and replies, and conversation in their national language. It’s how it is.