I wonder how much of this is intended to make internet shopping easier? I know when I bought my last three sets of tires, it is a little stressful. I check and re-check, and then check once more before pressing "buy". And that is after a thesis project at the manufacture's web page to make sure I know what is offered. Diameter, check, width, check, light or tough casing, check, folding bead, check, tubeless model, check, ... wait was it the Dangerous Maximus or the Racing Riot that was the fast one ... here we go again.
will you be doing tests with a tube & then tubeless or have you decided yet? ….hopefully they eventually make a 27.5" X 2.8" - either way, you have a dream job...great episode as usual :)
Honestly i think it is smart from them to start of simple. Once they got in the market they can put some more options. But 80% of the money is made from Trailbikers. And if all i need is 4 tyres to fit in every condition... I love it!
I love the fact that Pirelli and Michelin are back in the bike game. The last years before I felt like the only one pushing the game was Vittoria, and until then Schwalbe and Maxxis didn't have to do much to keep their positions. I think these brands with great material knowledge will pressure all the brands to stay innovative. May the best one win! No news yet when they will release their gravel tyres?
My first pirelli-exprerience was on my motorcycle. A few days ago I got the Citario Gravel for my gravel bike. Both are absoulutely great. So on my MTB the next tire will be a pirelli for sure ...
They will probably be very expensive and knowing recent history of the most famous car tyre brands and their multiple and regular failings in delivering reliable tyres even at high price points, I don't think there's much to be excited about. Certainly wait and see situation. The simplified approach is definitely good and other MTB tyre makers could take example and limit their range somewhat, but it's still uncertain if it's the others or Pirelli, who will budge and take example. Limiting range would help stores, to be less affraid of stocking tyres, and should really be seen as a reason for price drop. Also lots of really unpopular tyres, could finally disappear from the market, uncluttering the choice a bit.
@@niccolorovano4580 To me it's not, it's maybe standard price for the top range, but I'm not affraid of riding on recent value hitters from China, available here for under 15 euro per folding dual compound tyre. So for the tyre to be at 50 euro mark, it has to be 1st proven, 2nd have something special about it that increases the price to this point. Vittoria graphene series is definitely much more value, Continental makes their top tyres in Germany, Pirelli stamps the logo on a tire, gives the press one day of riding and puts a 50 euro price tag on it ;-)
You're right,I've never seen Pirelli developing and producing a tyre. For sure they are a stick-a-logo-on-it company... (They've done more than 30000km of testing and team Trek-Selle San Marco used these tyres the whole past year,both training and racing)
same for me, look at the weight of them. not nearly one could be heavy enough to endure Enduro type of stuff. Also way to small and narrow treads who could loose grip easy on muddy sections and deep dusty sections.
Why would they have 26 variations of the scorpion? Can't they call it 4 different names and then have 6-7 variations of each? I thought maxxis had complicated variations, but this...
Richard Kromkamp oh no. I didn’t buy these pirelli’s. I’m only 3 years in to mtb riding and I just had to buy my first mtb tires and it was frustrating due to tire labeling. These pirelli’s would have been a lot less frustrating.
@@bobobobobobo4597 What I find frustrating with buying new tires for bikes (and just bikes in general) is all the conflicting reviews. You'll find some people who love a tire and some who think it's trash. I mean obviously really good tires will skew towards more people liking them, but there are so many tires out there and because their performance varies so much by terrain it can be really tough to find the perfect tire for your riding.
@@bobobobobobo4597 continental labeling I think its very simple. I am a xc/marathon guy (not competing) and went with the all rounder X-king and I am happy with it.
Huge fan of the simple nomenclature strategy!! If not for anything else, cheers to Pirelli for that!!
I wonder how much of this is intended to make internet shopping easier? I know when I bought my last three sets of tires, it is a little stressful. I check and re-check, and then check once more before pressing "buy". And that is after a thesis project at the manufacture's web page to make sure I know what is offered. Diameter, check, width, check, light or tough casing, check, folding bead, check, tubeless model, check, ... wait was it the Dangerous Maximus or the Racing Riot that was the fast one ... here we go again.
they saw the ridculous prices bike parts were going for and said, wtf are we doing with motorised vehicles
Don't worry, their moto tires are expensive too
@@williamwallace5201considerably more expensive
will you be doing tests with a tube & then tubeless or have you decided yet?
….hopefully they eventually make a 27.5" X 2.8"
- either way, you have a dream job...great episode as usual :)
Nice...back in my motocross times the only tire i would ever use were the Scorpion MS32s...greeeat tires..nice to see them on mtb
Honestly i think it is smart from them to start of simple. Once they got in the market they can put some more options. But 80% of the money is made from Trailbikers. And if all i need is 4 tyres to fit in every condition... I love it!
I love the fact that Pirelli and Michelin are back in the bike game. The last years before I felt like the only one pushing the game was Vittoria, and until then Schwalbe and Maxxis didn't have to do much to keep their positions. I think these brands with great material knowledge will pressure all the brands to stay innovative. May the best one win!
No news yet when they will release their gravel tyres?
My first pirelli-exprerience was on my motorcycle. A few days ago I got the Citario Gravel for my gravel bike. Both are absoulutely great. So on my MTB the next tire will be a pirelli for sure ...
We need further videos and comparison! It's interesting!
Like the simplicity of only 4 tyre types for all conditions Will be interesting riding them in the UK conditions to see how they perform
Pirelli bike tyres just look so goddamn sexy. I'm considering swapping my continental road bike tyres for Pirelli pzeros
To be honest, they remind me of the cheap garbage rubber you get on these really cheap XC bikes.
Whatever you like though.
They will probably be very expensive and knowing recent history of the most famous car tyre brands and their multiple and regular failings in delivering reliable tyres even at high price points, I don't think there's much to be excited about. Certainly wait and see situation. The simplified approach is definitely good and other MTB tyre makers could take example and limit their range somewhat, but it's still uncertain if it's the others or Pirelli, who will budge and take example. Limiting range would help stores, to be less affraid of stocking tyres, and should really be seen as a reason for price drop. Also lots of really unpopular tyres, could finally disappear from the market, uncluttering the choice a bit.
They cost 50€, standard price
@@niccolorovano4580 To me it's not, it's maybe standard price for the top range, but I'm not affraid of riding on recent value hitters from China, available here for under 15 euro per folding dual compound tyre. So for the tyre to be at 50 euro mark, it has to be 1st proven, 2nd have something special about it that increases the price to this point. Vittoria graphene series is definitely much more value, Continental makes their top tyres in Germany, Pirelli stamps the logo on a tire, gives the press one day of riding and puts a 50 euro price tag on it ;-)
You're right,I've never seen Pirelli developing and producing a tyre. For sure they are a stick-a-logo-on-it company...
(They've done more than 30000km of testing and team Trek-Selle San Marco used these tyres the whole past year,both training and racing)
No clue what you're on about. Pirelli make some of the best and most reliable car tires you can get. And 50 is a totally reasonable price.
An even simpler idea than Bontrager, I hope it works out well for them.
I think it's going to be a had fit with how well Maxxis wins the market. Durability and legendary performance I'm afraid to make the switch.
these tires are XC tires, imo
same for me, look at the weight of them. not nearly one could be heavy enough to endure Enduro type of stuff. Also way to small and narrow treads who could loose grip easy on muddy sections and deep dusty sections.
XC and light trail. Pretty much all the people i ride with use DH and mud tyres though, even on 120mm bikes.
No 27.5 x 2.8? Bummer.
My Spesh Ground Controls work fine. I'll wait and see how these Pirellis stand up.
The treads don't look very different and the simple nomenclature is done better by Bontrager's system. I'm sure they're good tires for XC type trails.
So... where's the 26" version?
why? others also just ignored them because they are less and less used.
Back in the 90s my dude
at this moment i know only 27,5 inch the minus
I think it’s a cool Idea but again I don’t think they will be mainstream
They don’t look very aggressive, and it seems like aggressive tires are by far the most popular rn, I think they they kinda missed it on that
what do you think for a muddy condition xc race you would take from pirelli?
Im kinda interested going for the same setup you got... An M in from and R in the back
What a missed opportunity to say "kenda". 😞
Only rubber to dirt will determine whether they did a good job. Four tire choices is usually ample.
Why would they have 26 variations of the scorpion? Can't they call it 4 different names and then have 6-7 variations of each? I thought maxxis had complicated variations, but this...
xc tire looks very simillar to maxxis ardent race which is my fav xc tire might give this ones a try
What are the differences between XC R and MTB R?
i think xc r will be a bit lighter
Just bought new tires for the first time. Extremely frustrating experience.
Do tell.
Don't think you bought the Pirelli's as they are available from 1st of March?
Richard Kromkamp oh no. I didn’t buy these pirelli’s. I’m only 3 years in to mtb riding and I just had to buy my first mtb tires and it was frustrating due to tire labeling. These pirelli’s would have been a lot less frustrating.
@@bobobobobobo4597 What I find frustrating with buying new tires for bikes (and just bikes in general) is all the conflicting reviews. You'll find some people who love a tire and some who think it's trash. I mean obviously really good tires will skew towards more people liking them, but there are so many tires out there and because their performance varies so much by terrain it can be really tough to find the perfect tire for your riding.
@@bobobobobobo4597 continental labeling I think its very simple. I am a xc/marathon guy (not competing) and went with the all rounder X-king and I am happy with it.
I want a set to test in the carebbean Aruba
Not impressed with the tread pattern or height the of the knobles. They don't look like good tires for UK conditions.
Price dependant I think
I think absolutly nothing! Cheers
@3:50 the entire video is ... useless!