What's Up With the Snake & Staff Symbol for Medicine?
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Look into Jimmy Carter's efforts at elimination the guinea worm parasitic infections.
Please stop with the weird jangly background music. It's distracting and adds no value to the channel
this one was actually pretty good very good info
This one is simple. The staff is your bank account, the snake is the medical field squeezing
that's only in america XD
I always thought the snake was the insurance company
Spoken like a true american 👌
Not when we have national health care it ain't.
That's wild... I have free Healthcare.
I'm American
I love when he breaks character and gives his own opinions on the topic.
Break character, he’s always said opinions in between his various topic points. Nothing new and been doing it for at least 3 years.
You don't watch his other channels do you?
@@solesoul3848 I watch this channel. If a youtube person decides to split up their videos across channels. I don’t seek then out especially why this is what Im here for. Id expect behavior to be similar on them as well.
@@1014p oh okay . But just letting you know he has like 9 channels . Business blaze and casual criminaist is where he lets himself out quite more then necessary actually but you get the point.
@@1014p it's no longer business blaze it's Brain blaze now
Not one mention of Moses raising up the serpent on a pole in the wilderness to heal everyone? That’s where I always thought it came from.
I'm glad someone mentioned it. That's what I always assumed.
He did mention Moses at the 8:19 mark but did not spend much time at all on it. Should have went more into that story because it makes more sense.
True. The snake represents sin and the staff is life. Aarons staff was placed in the Ark of the Covenant
That was a pretty short mention of Moses. Interestingly, being in the Pentateuch, it is much more widely read and referenced today than any of the Greek myths. See Numbers 21:4-9 for details of the event.
Thank you, this is the comment I was looking for.
Hermes's symbol would work for ambulances because gotta go fast.
There’s a large snake that lives in the basement of each hospital, they demand a certain amount of human bodies per day
So, that’s why my city hospital has an unnaturally high mortality rate!
I think I saw that on an episode of Buffy The Vampire Slayer. 😂
OMG 🤣🤣🤣😂❤️
This is true Facebook fact checkers told me so 🤪
@@Itsmedansee oh, you mean God?? 🤦🏻♀️🤣🤣
Hmm I always thought it went back further to Moses who lifted up his staff and all who looked upon it were healed. This was in response to thousands being bitten by snakes.
Yes your right, it comes 1600 years before his first story. Look upon it and be healed! This was prophecy call a "type!"
Same here
Yes, you are right; Moses was told to create a bronze snake and put it on a pole. Everyone who looked at it would be healed. So the medical symbol is exactly that - a snake on a pole that symbolises healing!
You're correct, it was called Nehushtan
I believe you are right. But atheist and scientist don't walk in truth, and want everyone else to live in their lies.
This is Simon’s strangest thumbnail yet
LMAO idk why they chose to make it a bonk meme, but I'm happy they did
I Thought it was a Business *ahem* Brain Blaze vid at first
I think it's because of the holy doges at the temples of healing
@@Ass_of_Amalek ahhh I was thinking why that meme don’t get me wrong it’s awesome but your explanation makes sense now! Thank you
I love it
as an American on teh east Coast i can tell you the ONLY medical group or association i have ever seen use the proper staff of Ascalepeus is in the symbol of Emergency medical Services- ambulances and paramedics, etc
every doctor and hospital i have seen used the caduceus
In the US Navy, the caduceus is the insignia of the Hospital Corpsman. A Corpsman is an enlisted medical specialist who work in a wide variety of capacities and locations. They may function as clinical or speciality technicians, medical admin and health care providers. Medical Officers (physician) insignia is an oak leaf with an acorn in center. Dental Officers (dentists) have oak leaf with 2 acorns at stem. Nurses have only an oak leaf and Medical Services Officers have an oak leaf with crooked stem. I’d like to see you do a show on the origin of these oak leaf insignias. Thanks! Kevin
As a US Navy Fleet Marine Force Corpsman, our symbol, least in the 80s was the Caduceus. We wore a collar badge, on our Service Blues. It was something one strived for.
I'm pretty sure it still is, it was when I got it in 2015. Sad nobody knows what Corpsmen are.
if you had issue hearing what he said at 4:06 and because the caption ommited, he said constelation of ophiucus.
Thanks! I was curious about that myself. 👍
An idea for Sideprojects, the US Navy Hospital Corps which uses the Caduceus as it's symbol, it's the only enlisted Corps in the Navy, and holds the record for awards for heroism in the Navy.
They also never get promoted 😂
@@Kosh_Naranek., hey now, I picked up 1st class on my 3rd try in the middle of IDC school, it's not that hard! (I got lucky, the percentages have always sucked, but lately they've been worse than ever! We need more Corpsmen, not less, and ones of better quality!)
This be Corpsmen who aren't qualified when they leave??
This symbol and it's relationship to medical goes all the way back to Sumerians. Enki sister. Way older that Greek, and all that
I mean, it's DNA right? That's how I've always taken it. A very long time ago, our brains processed and immortalized a description of DNA, as a snake swirling up a staff... And we've been trying to justify the meaning ever since.
Yes I think it has been found in archaeological sites of ancient Israel.Something to do with Canaanite gods?
@@tolrem I don't know of any Canaanite gods that are a serpent? Would love to learn more.
@@raprometheus3051 I think that I read something about it in the book "The Bible Unearthed" by the archealogists Israel Finklestein and Neil Asher Silberman.Great book even if it's not in there!
@@tolrem Cool! I guarantee they mention the Goddess Asheera!? Moloch is usually a Bull or an Owl. Thanks, anyway!
As a Navy Hospital Corpsman (Navy enlisted medical personnel) for 20 years, I wore a cadeuceus. It's not just the Army that uses the symbol.
As a malingering AE2(AW) I can confirm this statement 😎
In the Army, I wore both, depending on which unit I was with. When I was with USAIDR, the Institute of Dental Research, we wore the same unit patch as WRAIR (Walter Reed Army Institute of Research) which was a gold staff of Asclepius in a red flame on a hexagonal maroon background. However, when I was transferred to DENTAC Hawaii to do exactly the same job, I wore the patch of the Dental Corps, which was the same as the MEDDAC patch: A white Caduceus on a maroon ellipse. I found it interesting because my high school colors had been maroon and white.
Semper Fi, Devil Doc.
A+ thumbnail
(Edit: since thumbnails often change, I’m referring to Cheems bonking with the staff)
Tut tut, Simon. You failed to mention the hypothesis that the caduceus is a hold over memory from when ancient aliens revealed our DNA to us puny earthlings. lol
It's more likely that Rx came from the Latin abbreviation, because recipe and prescription are indeed still the same word in Spanish.
"Funnily enough, thieves."
Hermes is the god of thievery.
Thieves, travellers, salesmen. Anyone that relied on the roads for their profession were his domain.
Kind of a big role for a God that media treats as a goofy messenger boy.
Watching these formal videos after business (brain) blaze is a strange experience
I feel you I've mostly watched Brain Blaze and Casual Criminalist lately I almost forgot how calm Simon can be 😂
Some sources claim it goes back even farther than what everyone else mentioned here.
I am not a Bible thumper, but I remember reading a story about how a serpent (maybe Lucifer) gave Adam and Eve "knowledge" by eating from the alleged apple tree. Hence a snake on tree branch gave humans "knowledge".
Again I'm not here to promote or debate any religious argument I'm just saying this is one of the myths/stories I've also heard about all these symbols.
Sumerians and others have very similar stories about a snake on a staff or branch.
Moses and a serpent on this staff.
The list goes on.
Obviously a lot of cultures associate snake on a staff symbolism with healing, medicine, knowledge, etc
Your probably much closer to being correct. Greek mythology is more widely regarded though.
Another myth/theory, or whatever you might call it, is that the snakes symbolise the path of the kundalini energy going up our spine and each intersection corresponds to a chakra of this energetic system.
Moses and the serpent in Old Testament was always my thought
Mine too.
Same here
And since that story predates the Romans, and the modern use of the snake and staff was generally made in a Christian society, I think that is most true.
Though it is interesting to learn the Roman history of their stories.
My thought, too.
You're correct in that assumption it predates the greco-Roman myth
Ophiuchus is also a 13th member of the Zodiac. While very rare, the constellation does pass through the proper alignment to be a part of the ring of Zodiac constellations. In depictions of the snake bearer, he is often seen holding the Caduceus with one snake being a python and the other being an adder. The adder is a symbol of death and destruction while the python is a symbol of healing. Thus the Ophiuchus Caduceus is a sign of renewal; death and rebirth. The constellation itself enters the Zodiac roughly around the times of major catastrophic events and mass extinctions. That said, measuring on those timescales are only accurate to within a couple hundred thousand years, so it is likely more coincidence than actual causation.
Simon was as visibly shaken by the thought of those Guinea worms, as he was glad to hear they are almost eradicated!! It creeped him big time!!😆
While not actually related, I find it remarkable the visual similarities between the Caduceus, and DNA.
It actually started with the Rod of Asclepius, then Caduceus
There are no coincidences!
It's gotta be aliens!
Meh... not really. Its a single helix. No bridge, no double. Just twisty shapes.
Welp I'm gonna have nightmares about Guinea worm now
Same🤢
WTF does "welp" mean?
@@misterflibble6601 kinda like saying "well" but in a more defeated way. You've never seen that before?
Also "Bx" for Biopsy, "Px" for Procedure, and "Tx" for Treatment.
1:16 start
Ive often heard it described as a caduceus - maybe that's just when it is used as a part of an Army officer's insignia.
Wikipedia is fun. here's what Wiki says about the Caduceus: "The two-snake caduceus design has ancient and consistent associations with trade, liars, thieves, eloquence, negotiation, alchemy, and wisdom."
At a bout 915 he explains the similar symbol.
What's more interesting the Egyptian letter 'heka' is a snake's head. It is associated with magic and all the magi have snake heads on their staffs (which brings to mind the Bible passage where Moses had God turn their snakes into actual staves)
It's interesting (and I don't know if this is related) that the Greek goddess of magic is named Hekate.
9:35 this is where we get the word 'merchant' and 'mercantilism' and 'merchandise' from. These things all relate to Mercury.
Two corrections:
1.) The female guinney worm can grow to a length of over 1m. It will not exit through the blister in the skin. Instead, it releases some irritating agent that burns terribly, until the wound is submerged in water and cooled. Then the female worm will release its eggs into the water to start a new cycle.
2.) The Finney worm has not been eradicated. It was eradicated mostly from the human populations, but it since has been found to also parasitizes dogs, cats and pigs. It has found a stable breeding ground in these animal population. So, the human population still must filter or cook their drinking water to avoid the disease.
Asclepius had 6 kids.
Me: More like cheekclapius.
I was very curious about this subject , but didn’t know what to look for
Well, I picked a bad video to watch while eating breakfast.
Or seeing someone with the staffs made people believe they could control something soo dangerous
Of course, the sound of Simon Whistler's voice has a soothing effect on Asperger's.
Living that.
Small quibble. The Greek word from which we get “pharmacy” etc means “sorcery”. Specifically using drugs to “ensorcell” people.
Those boreworms make xenomorphs seem merciful by comparison!
I thought it was connected to negushtan, the copper snake on a rod that Moses made when the Isrealites were bitten by venomous snakes. Those who looked at the snake would not die from the venom of the snakes.
I did always wonder about this, always thought why wasnt it the same sign as the red cross.
Today I found out: where I come to induce vomiting.
Also I've seen both of these symbols I always thought the staff was more to represent a needle and the snake a thread for stitching people up of course I knew the origins of the winged symbol dated back a long time
Yeah… don’t try to watch this one after a bottle of wine… Greek mythology is just… uh… ya… well, ya know… yeah… crisps.
I started watching Business Blaze before I had seen any other of Simon's channels. Well, this is the only other that I've seen. He is so much more animated on business blaze that I found this a bit unsettling...lol.
😂😂😂Love it. This must be confusing to see serious calm Simon 🤣. Brain Blaze and Casual Criminalist are my favourite channels now. I'm looking forward to channel 11 and 12 that are in the works now
More thorough job than my pharmacy school professors 👍 though I will say we (Americans - though the school does have one branch overseas) were taught that Rx is for recipe and that our official symbol is the Bowl of Hygeia
You left out quite a bit about the Biblical theory which would have provided additional support. First, however, a slight correction: Moses did not "carry" the brazen serpent; he was instructed to erect it in a place where it could be seen by the entire camp. It would have been high up in a central location, probably on some kind of pole or scaffold.
What is left out is that centuries later, King Hezekiah, in the midst of a major revival, destroyed the brazen serpent because it had become associated with idolatry and as such was seen as something interfering with the Israelites properly focusing on God. At that time, people would leave offerings to it, and had even given it a name, "Nehushtan." Many people think that this artifact, associated with healing since the 14th century BC (making it the earliest known example of a snake-pole combination), but which had become associated with idolatry by the 8th century BC, could easily be connected with a Greek god written about by Homer at around this time and his ensuing cult.
You left out “bx” which stands for biopsy. But then modern medicine is trying to leave these archaic abbreviations behind because they can lead to medical errors if used incorrectly or written unclearly.
Another rendition of this myth is that he was presented with gorgon blood by Athena for healing the bruises of a suffering snake. An animal sacred to her. Snakeo whispered knowledge of medicine and healing that was even hidden from his mentor.
He made out on his own, and to advertise his practice he adopted the staff and the snake.
Gordon's blood (counterintuitively) has the capacity to bring the dead back to life.
Obviously this pissed off Hades and some others who appealed to Zeus.
Aside from the problem of Hades' realm getting messed up, Zeus was reminded of Prometheus and concerned about people gaining more hubris against the Gods. He thusly died. Appllo went ham and killed the cyclopes responsible for creating the bolts that killed his son.
(But not before getting some kids that also lend themselves to the medical field)
Edit: and the change in colour from white to black was due to one particularly nasty bird who delivered the message, laughing at/mocking the woman's pleas to save ze bebé
"Esculapius, his serpent and staff, ...or his cock..." LMFAO! @10:27
Wow, medicine was really different back then! Lol! xD
This is the first time, the video answered exactly what I thought was correct.
I have a video request. The hero of TACA flight 110, Captain Carlos Dardano. This man got shot in the face in a guerrilla zone, promptly got in his plane, took off, and landed safely with a gunshot wound that claimed his eye. This happened years before he landed a wounded airliner without power in a swamp outside of New Orleans.Truly remarkable man and story.
Damn. Simon is learning from American TV. His ad read was loud. But the rest of the show was almost a whisper. I had it running while I was fixing my lunch, and didn't hear a word he said. But I had started it blaring.
I thought it had something to do with Moses and some Bible story about a snake and staff or something.
He mentioned that at 16:22
That snake is known as Nehushtan (2 Kings 18.4).
I thought it was connected to kundalini- the snake being vital energy and the staff being the spine.
Welp, remove any place with that worm off my travel list
With that same logic, never get out of bed or eat food again.
The leg worm is the one I learned about in school as a kid
The thumbnail made me think it was a blaze.
Every time I see this symbol, I think of that scene in Black Dynamite - “Asclepius, of course! There’s snakes going all up and down that shit.”
I always known the Rx to be a borrow from Egyptian hyroglyphics where a similar symbol was used to represent doctors/apothecaries.
All I know is I am beyond grateful I live in this day and age of modern medicine. I would be dead 5 times over if I was born just 150 years ago >.
Since the cesarean section is named for Julius Caesar, shouldn't it really be called the Asclepian section, since his was first?
yet an other thing Rome copied from the Greeks, those homework copying bastards.
False, in fact it's been proven to be the opposite. The name comes from the phrase "ab utero caeso" or "cut from the womb" and roman children born this way referred to as "caesones" which is actually what the first Caesar was named for as well as his more famous descendants such as Julius. Simon did a whole video on this a while ago.
I’m only here for Simon’s glorious beard.
You said Asclepias had four daughters, then proceeded to name five...
☻
He has to churn these videos out as quickly as possible. It's all about ad revenue
I always assumed it was something to do with Farquhar the Healer. Makes sense it was Ancient Greek in origin and there abouts and was adapted by many cultures throughout the centuries. I like the Celtic story of Farquhar the Healer myself.
So in other words: Greek Mythology is fkn complex.
I started watching most of your video, love them, but haven't watched them all so I apologize if you have already cover this question. Me and my work colleagues were wondering where the phrase "better than sliced bread" came from and what was the objective that would have been used to represent this phrase before sliced bread came along.
On the origin of Rx as "prescription", it may follow the same convention as Hx for history & other examples given. Rx could be Px for prescription and look the same.
I remember years ago reading about the Aesculapian Ray Snake. It was mentioned that it is associated with healing but the explanation wasn’t nearly as detailed as this.
10:30 That just made me google up the symbols.
Only fitting that in our commercial health care system the sign of the merchant dominates.
Starts at 1:20
"Asclepius of course. He had a staff, with snakes intertwined all around that bitch. He called it Asclepius' staff. It's a symbol still used in the medical community to this day".
Thanks for the extra commercials UA-cam now I know what not to get keep jamming away .
The snakes, I mean the doctors...
I could've swore yall have done this topic before
What are thieves if not merchants who simply deal in merchandise not their own?
I "sell" SERPENTINE! in my old-timey comedy traveling medicine show. 🐍 "SERPENTINE! It rhymes with turpentine. And that's just fine. Because it's genuine -- 100 Percent snake oil." 🐍
Very cute.
Except serpentine is pronounced with a long ee sound.
So it doesn’t rhyme with turpentine.
Sorry.
@@stephanieden4 It does indeed rhyme with turpentine -- all the way through our comedy- magic show. 😆 Your fuddy-duddyism is noted -- and dismissed. 😆 On the plus side, it contains NO harmful active ingredients.
Where's my weekly fix's for Crim-tings?
You've alreadyade a video about jimi Hendrix pleaseake one about B.B. King
That video about Jimi Hendrix was so good.
You got me with that thumbnail you clever bastard
The double snake one is on ambulances a lot here in George
I'm curious as to why in the USA south the say all the fixins when they are referring to side dishes. 🤔
This was a very interesting video.
I doubt that the RX symbol was a christian symbol.
That’s probably just another perfect example of them claiming things as their own, that had nothing to do with them originally.
I think the Johns Hopkins guy probably has the best explanation.
The biblical account of the brazen snake on the rod which healed those who looked upon it actually predates that of Asclepius.
Just amazing! Please more!
Lol corona coronis. Also I was so tickled to see you wearing a shirt that said keep calm and blaze on. Stay blazin 🤘
Things I didn't want to know about worms.
I thought the red cross was the universal symbol of the healing profession.
I'm so glad I'm sitting here eating my dinner while you launch into your description of guinea worms.
SO glad.
The staff of Asclepius or Asclepius is a staff entwined with a snake and is also called a snake staff. Originally it was an attribute of Asclepius , the god of healing in Greek mythology.
Can you make a video about cigarettes? I've been smoking for a few years and my question is how does a cigarette die out but when I take a long drag from it, it starts to burn and work without having a lighter like when I first had to start smoking it
I thought the symbol came from the old testament of the Bible
The LORD said to Moses, "Make a snake and put it up on a pole; anyone who is bitten can look at it and live." So Moses made a bronze snake and put it up on a pole. Then when anyone was bitten by a snake and looked at the bronze snake, he lived. The Israelites moved on and camped at Oboth.
I should've sent the script I wrote about this topic in the past (maybe 5 years ago) - it was 95% exactly what you said...
I thought it was BB by that thumbnail
“Hermes saw a pair of snakes fighting and he threw his staff to stop them.”Lies. I bet he borrowed his fathers staff and broke it. Probably while whacking snakes or he was afraid of snakes so he threw his fathers staff and ran away. Then told his father that lame story to cover up his deeds.
Snakes need whackin
Probably just threw it in some bushes then said it had been delivered
@@burtdurger847 Lol
OK, but Moses didn't carry the snake on the pole. He erected it in the middle of the camp. The story is told in the book of Numbers.
I first noticed it when it was an item you can get in the game Smite to increase healing. Then I went to school for massage therapy and they told me what it actually was.
Good video 👍
Government ruins everything, even symbols.
These goofy thumbnails work for Brain Blaze, but they really give the wrong impression of TIFO. I mean, Cheems? Really?
Ah Chiron, the centaur for disease control.
Sorry.
Dude! I’m trying to eat!!! Well, I was…