Complete DLC Tierlist for Hearts of Iron IV!
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- Опубліковано 19 чер 2024
- If you're looking to get any of the Hearts of Iron IV DLCs, consider this your buying guide or which ones are worth getting over others!
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DLC's active:
(all of them lol)
By Blood Alone (BBA)
No Step Back (NSB)
Battle for the Bosporus
La Resistance
Man the Guns
Waking the Tiger
Death or Dishonor
Together for Victory
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00:00 DLC Tierlist
00:30 Expansion subscription
02:25 Battle for the Bosporus
02:55 By Blood Alone
04:44 Man the Guns
05:23 La Resistance
06:02 Preaching the word of the Ti-30
06:44 Armor & cosmetic packs
07:49 Together for Victory
08:29 Waking the Tiger
09:01 Death or Dishonor
09:44 Sabaton Soundtracks
10:15 Anniversary Pack
10:45 No Step Back
12:25 Review & hot takes
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hoi4 community manager casually watching the video:
Pretty much
@@PDXKattenwhy No swedish allowed in the discord like the game is swedish 😢😢😢
As if we do one language extra, we would need to a lot more, and we don't have the moderator resources for it. @@lemonke4209
as a pirate i'll say that all DLCs are S tier because they're free
slide those links brother
Price doesn't come into it 😜
@@usain6060 I don't endorse piracy, but I am a fan of Jack Sparrow
@@hammotimee then everything is an S tier because idgaf
@@akdele5 ☠️
the best tier list is
cosmetic: f
expansion: s
everything else: b
Each to their own 😊
thanks for the vid mate was ummimg and arring at what dlcs to get and this REALLY helped. seem like a chill channel def got a sub now
Hey thanks so much for that! Glad I could help and hope you enjoy some of the others too 😁
Definitely no step back deserved that s tier. By blood alone would probably be more c tier. I was really only excited for the new focuses of the dlc. Sabaton packs are great and I get why they only had the songs about ww2 but I would’ve loved if more of their songs could’ve made it.
Agreed! Sabaton is such a good band, all their stuff is on Spotify already :)
By Blood Alone has probably the 2nd best focus trees of any DLC if not the best. How would that make them C tier??
unpopular opinion: I don't like any designer so every dlc does not include a design system gains +1 for me. Also wish they would just separate designers and focus trees. I want focus tree part not the designer part
personally i only like the tank designer, the other ones were fine without designers
I agree. I think it just makes things needlessly complicated. I wish you could turn off the designers while keeping the focus trees from the DLC.
Interesting! What is it you all don't like about the designers?
And with the auto design option they they on there, do you use that at all, or do you find the designs aren't good enough?
@@hammotimee because ı am playing this game for alt history stuff so ı am just not interest with designing.
@@doctorwhat779 fair enough!!!
It’s better to just wait for all the DLCs to go on deep discount instead of buying a goofy ass subscription that will eventually cost more than just buying them, especially when they’re on sale. I got them all for like $70USD
Get them on sale for sure, but the subscription won't cost the same until like 2 years hahah
@@hammotimee But at the end of that two years when you stop giving them money you have absolutely nothing.
HOI4 is the type of game that you may put down for months but you will pick it up again later, owning the DLC means you always have that content available at no further cost.
@@billwiley7216 So what? I personally play games in phases, like I play a game a lot for a few months then I dont touch it at all for a few months. A subscription like this (which I can cancel when Im not playing the game) is literally perfect. And its not like Im losing anything when I dont have the DLCs. Hoi4 isnt like City's Skylines where you play the same save for months, you start a save, play it for a few days and then you're done with it. It literally doesnt matter at all whether you own the DLC's or not, which makes the Subscription, even with sales incredibly cheap and worth not owning the DLCs
Great video! Just got some money from loved ones and this helped me decide what Hoi dlcs I would get!
Thank you! And congrats on the dollarydoos, hope you enjoy your new DLCs! Should be on sale now too
You can give puppets land just click on that countries flag and then click the land you want to give them after making them a puppet. Note: it usually cost more Victory points per land space if you decide to give it to your puppet
Yeah they updated this after I made the video, it's a great change!
I really wish someone would invent a mod to give puppets about to be made in a peace conference the same power 😭😭
For what they add, i would say the main expansion up top as they add a lot of extra functions to the game. Afterwards would be the other country packs, as they add more originality by focus tree to a bunch of nations, even if some are quite outdated. Though maybe some of the best are higher than the worst of the main expansions.
At the bottom i have any cosmetics. Yeah, more detailed tanks can be cool to look at, but usually you arent as zoomed in. And while i do like Sabaton, i can just have a personal playlist playing as well
I think that the reason the reviews are bad on by blood alone is because whenever they play non historical Switzerland will just annex half of Europe with like 3 focuses
Goated
To be honest if you're a kid or you don't get money a lot than buying the DLC's one by one is the best option
4:24 I think you can give land to new puppets in the same peace deal, they're under the "beneficiaries" tab in the top right. Unless I'm mixing something up
I thought you could only give land to existing puppets, but I could be wrong!
@@hammotimee Both are right, you can only give cored land to your puppets you make in a peace conference, but you cannot give land that is not cored to them
BBA has some minor issues, but Id rate it at least an A
P.S. gigachads use state transfer tool and dont care about no more player-lead peace conferences
B is still good!
I am indeed a gigachad
Now this is the video I needed for the DLCs
I got u
I like pretty much all of the DLCs and play pretty much every focus tree and country, but I absolutely hate the new Swiss tree
Why's that???
I got most of the DLCs on sale, and BBA for Christmas. You can get these DLCs for so much cheaper as long as you wait for a sale.
Always buy on sale!
@@hammotimee I got all of the gameplay-affecting DLCs (except for BBA) on sale, for ~70-80 USD, compared to over a hundred. When they're that cheap, why would you NOT buy them on sale? I did get AAT at full price, but newer things tend to not go on big sales, if they even go on sale at all.
I never buy for full price
I’ve got a recommendation for a couple mods:
1. Make a country in a peace deal
I really have no idea why people haven’t thought of this yet! If this became a mod, I can bet people will go crazy on this mod. How it works is that there is a new option in the peace deal screen where you can “make a country”. There will be 2 options: “make a free country”, or “make a puppet”. Then, you can select the name for that country. Finally, you can select the tiles you want that country to own.
2. Resistance overhaul
I don’t get why modders can’t add this feature where there is resistance on core states! How it will work is: your stability takes a large part of the resistance, where when stability is low, resistance is mainly high, and vice versa. If it gets too high, the city will break away (using the first mod) creating its own nation, which an AI will make a name for it. That city is no longer a core of you and you can choose to free it or fight for it. When compliance gets large enough, you will have the option to core a state, however you will lose some political power points. The more compliance from around 60%, the less it costs, since violence in the streets should normally happen less.
3. Puppet mod
When you get in a peace deal and make a puppet (linking to the 1st recommended mod), you can choose which rules a puppet must follow. However, the more strict your puppet should be, the more points it costs. You can choose from the following presets in the peace deal, or choose the custom button to make how autonomous your puppet will be. The rules will have an amount of points next to it to show how many victory points it costs, and at the end it will show you the amount in total. When the puppet is made, it will not have cores (mod 2 gets used, but instead of them picking if they core something, they demand you if they can.)
1: Love it, custom countries would surely be a mod already but if not, someone should do it
2: Don' love it on core states, why would a core state want to break free?
3: That;s pretty much how puppets work now with Together for Victory :)
@@hammotimee if you do some questionable things (like say black people suck as president and refuse to back down as president, why wouldn’t people start revolting? It happened in France, and the UK dominions did warn Edward that if he weren’t to back down they would leave, even though they’ve become an essential part of UK identity and the people were even given a British citizenship.
@@hammotimee also you still cannot choose how autonomous your country will be, it’s either a puppet always or an integrated puppet (reichskommissariat).
@@CatfoodChronicles6737 fair enough, but I think not a mechanic that is needed for every country, you can already have civil wars if support gets low enough for countries like Italy or France
@@hammotimee yeah I guess but still I really do think this mechanic should be present everywhere
I mean even if I theoretically know that the Subscription is worth it I just kinda dislike renting instead of owning stuff.
Also NSB is the best DLC in my Opinion just because of the supply system but by Blood alone has Bella Ciao so close second.
I completely agree with you about owning vs renting, I personally don't subscribe to anything gaming related. However it's perfect for people that might not have the money to buy them outright, or want to try out the DLCs before buying them on sale
@@hammotimee yes for sure
Great video! I'd probably put NSB in A and TFW in S just because the game is unplayable without the subject mechanics. Also I'd put Death or Dishonor in A or S just because it adds some of the most interesting focus trees in the game.
Thank you! :D The great thing about the internet is civil and respectful discourse such as this. I cherish it
Great point about the subjects though, it's pretty essential!
I agree, That Face When has to be one of the best DLC in the game simply due to its mechanics.
Yoooo interesting video,actually I would like to know how to get voiceover for German troops and other ones? Would help me much.
Thank you! Honestly I don't know? I thought the soldier voices are part of the base game, but maybe the armour packs?
Owning something vs paying for a subscription is rarely better. You don't HAVE to buy every DLC all at once. And there are deals that occur. Ultimately owning it forever vs only having access when you play isn't a good value.
I used to feel the same, but it depends entirely on how much you play 😊
I know I'm late but as a person who uses the subscription I can share my reason on why I'm basically renting it
I only started hoi 4 very recently and usually I like to have "complete experiences" when it comes to dlc hell games
I also do not play the game as consistent either
So just having an option to rent the entire dlc library for 3 months for 15 bucks is really nice (especially since every new release is also included in the pass)
Now for someone who doesn't have all dlc enabled or is only interested in certain dlcs
It's not worth it
Especially if your patient enough for a sale (which probably is going on since you probably bought hoi4 on a sale cause who the hell pays full price for hoi4?)
What’s the podcast that you mentioned in the waking the tiger dlc??
I'm so glad you asked! It's the history of WW2 podcast by Ray Harris jr!
worldwariipodcast.net/
man battle of the bosphorus adds my my favourite tree which is the turkey one
Turkey gobble gobble
I just realized that I am the only person that enjoys listening to the speeches when say ww2 starts , also you did battle for the Bosporus dirty my man it should be B
You must be hahah
And no way, it deserves it's place
I guess I'm the second
I have left the By Blood Alone, No Step Back and Man The Guns dlcs, and I have to buy only 2; which should I buy now and which later?
No step back > man the Guns > by Blood Alone
@@hammotimee thx
i dont have all this dlc but i have supply system in game (hubs and logistics), i have officer core and all that , why should i pay more? the only thing i don't have is vehicle designer and spying system
There is soooo much they give from new country focus trees to other mechanics not in the base game, if you put a lot of hours in its well worth it
I think battle for the bosporus tweaked something things in civi war mechanics
Oh for sure it fucked up my Battlecry video 😂
35 and a half months and keep in mind new dlcs that get released like 1oce per 6 months
The sub is actually god mode the only reason it would not be worth it is if you literally play consistently year round, at that point ye just buy them but the sub is sick.
Yeah for sure! Just switch on and off as you get into and out of the game 😁
8:58 I love waking the tiger so I can form Roman papacy
Isn't that BBA?
@@hammotimee unfortunately not, BBA unlocks the idea of forming mare nostrum, but the actual decision is included in Waking the tiger so you can’t actually get the red country color and “imperium Romanum” without Waking the tiger
Atleast this is how it was for me, when I bought BBA, I tried to form Rome, and the decision didn’t come up until I bought waking the tiger and I felt like an idiot
I think that I would get no step back and waking the tiger
Great choices!
"I've been out of school for I don't know how many years because I can't count. And I've never needed to graph a quadratic".
Mebbe cause and effect here?
Hahhahahah hey I'm not smart enough to understand cause and effect
I still have to buy Man The Guns and La Resistance DLC's which one of them is the most worth it?
Oooo that's so close, maybe La Resistance? The spies are so fun
The Netherlands exile focus tree is better than Vichy France or Free France by miles.
I would vote Man the Guns
No no no no Allied speeches are far the most things im looking to hear when im playing the game its an S tier for me especially FDR speech of war declartion is something more like a giant awakening
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do u get the game with expansion subscription?
No I don't believe so!
I’m such a idiot I
Thought it came with the game 😅
Subscription is only worth it if you want all the DLC. From your list you can forget about half of them from the start so basically makes your initial calculation of 3 years down to 1 and half maybe 2 years before you start to lose money. B tier at best.
If you like the game all the DLCs are defs worth it, just ranking them in terms of which ones to get first 😄
yep
Agreed
Better to do the math with a sale as its on sale all the time. and with that its a little over a year before you are over paying. Not 3
Hard to do that and super inconsistent between regions, but agree, I would never pay full price for any DLCs haha
As someone who pirated all the docs i find this a W
Thank you!
@@hammotimee i like your content just keep up your good work
@@walidxking1184 ayyy thanks so much that's super kind!!
Hello and today we will be listing what dlcs are worth purchasing… without taking into account price… hang on here
I literally said I won't comment on pricing man, just what's included in the actual content
Was it Dan Carlin’s podcast?🤌🏼
No it wasn't, it's actually Ray Harris Jr's! But I'll check out Dan Carlin!
But if you quit paying all the dlcs are gone
True, but it's great as a try before you buy
Ngl the allied speeches are actually pretty epic😂
They're all on UA-cam anyway 😂
how do i activate them after i subscribed to them
In the game launcher there's a section for DLCs where you can activate them!
@@Matt3Black yessir! You can have them all active at once!
as someone who uses the subscription i agree with this
Thank you!
How come there is no d tier?😅
Unnessesary, shit is shit haha
stopped watching when i saw your first recommendation to pay for a monthly subscription.....S tier reallly!??????
Absolutely, other games which need all the DLCs to be fully enjoyable don't offer this kind of thing, and for people who don't have the income to afford $200 bucks plus, who just want to play for a little bit then put it down again can instead do so for what? $15-30 instead? What's the issue here, apart from some kind of apathy towards subscription based services?
How many puppets can you have of the same nation? Like the USSR like a USSR puppet in every USSR state?😂😂😂
"the limit does not exist" 😂
Sabaton should be below allied speeches
Sabaton rocks 🤘
@@hammotimee stop the cap
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@@hammotimee What?
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Am I the only one that just uses mods? 💀💀💀
Not at all!
Fit girls website provides the entire game with all dlc for pretty cheap
Sounds like a scam to me 👀