Joshua Schmidt testing Zoodiac after the New Banlist
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- Опубліковано 8 гру 2023
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Running Barrage and 1-2 Zoo names as a small engine in decks that don't need too much extra deck is definitely going to be the play going forward for some decks I think.
I think it fits in some decks better than others, I'm enjoying tri brigade zoo but I've seen people trying it in other decks as well, the engine is really nice if you would already play tenki but don't need it for main line, just make a zoo
So you mean lab? Hahahahahaha
It'd have to be a very specific deck, I'd say Vanquish Soul but running more non-monsters is kinda sus in that deck
i'm on 2 name, 3 barrage, and on a few occasions 2 names were too few. considering upping to 3.
im on traptrix and running a small barrage package dramatically improves the deck. drydent is good going first, and boarbow being a non-effect way to get to zeus breaks a good amount of decks.@@ethanhopper2467
Now both of you should kiss
@@Counselor-yj8hkit would really help me if they kissed
@@Counselor-yj8hkthey can make passionate love under the tier list
I'd like to see how a small Zoo package would work in Unchained with the new support. Barrage has never been legal at the same time as Unchained, and Drident and the current version of Unchained haven't been legal together either. I'm not confident it would be better than a more pure Unchained build, but there might be something there.
I think Zoo's going to have a place as a splashable engine in decks that can plus from popping and also use the free bodies/xyz monsters the Zoo engine can provide, whether they use it to facilitate an easier UDF/Zeus or even just an extra Drident for the endboard.
i've been playing zoodiac bystial. Bystials completely destroy mathmech and they're real cards unlike almost all other handtraps
It's also very good vs Dlink
There are much better decks that use Bystials. The concept of playing two standalone engines that are good on their own but don’t have strong interactions with each other isn’t gonna give you an end product that’s too great
@@Konata615 i'm climbing ranked and duelist cup without much issue, i only instalose vs labrynth but have very good coverage vs all other decks
i have yet to lose a match vs cyberse turbo bullshit.dek
Thank you Zoo strongest
Yo, sauce on the Hugin art pfp?
@@pkjk1255down bad
@@FrankOcean-- You're capping if you don't think that Hugin art isn't pretty as hell
@@pkjk1255 It literally just looks like an AI recreation of the regular card art lol
@@258thHiGuy fair enough
Zoo Kashtira goes hard. 3 Barrage, 3 Tenki and 5-6 Zoo names with Planet, 2 Fenrir, 3 Unicorn, 1 Scare Kash, 1 Riseheart and 1 of each spell feels very good.
Ideally you summon Unicorn, Rat into Chak into UDF before comitting to Ariseheart.
You get to run Shifter too. It's extremely toxic.
Any video is instantly elevated by the Chrono Trigger soundtrack in the background. Corridors of Time is my favorite track from my favorite game of all time. I still have my SNES and play the game once a year. Been doing this since 1995. Middle school was instantly changed by this.
That's what I thought it was. Been playing that game on the DS since I was a kid, still occasionally play it. It has to be my favorite game of all time, other than Final Fantasy 7.
Oh my God yes! I love Drident! I would die for Zoodiac Drident! This card is going to change my life and will be the best card ever! Batchest
Hi Josh, I've been watching your 2nd channel content recently and it's been enjoyable to see a good player at work
....is it worth it to run 1 Daigusto Emeral in Zoodiac in MD in case there's a need to recycle the one and only Zeus they get in the format and Avarice is MIA?
this is my all time favorite deck i went to nationals. in 2017 with true draco zoo and it won the whole tournament not me but basically my deck and I still play it today 3 diagram 3 masterpiece 3 barrage is a wild day on the field of yugioh for anyone
This gives me Wyverburster Collapserpent vibes. Just a small engine you can fit into some decks that you can plus off of.
Barrage going first is crazy if you have rat it can help you play through nib and still end on multiple interruptions
Josh's handtrap gallery is insane, all in this video have 3 copies each
What about Kash Zoo?
And yes, Zoo is absolute butts against backrow, as someone who plays a lot of Lab and Striker I can confirm that you will not have much trouble dealing with Drident Pass, and will probably have set answers to Boarbow. 2-3 LS on top of a Duster is practically a must against those decks and even Rikka.
The bigger issue is stopping the zues.
@@insertname5371 there are plenty of removal cards especially with purely and kash
@@insertname5371imperm.
Yeah Zeus is a big threat. If rikka is playing the bamboo shoot setup you won't be able to stop rikka
Zoodiac, traditionally struggled against paleo and TD, but TD Zoodiac fixed all of that (to my ire)
Nice Chrono Trigger BGM
Tfw someone in the chat said that Mourner doesn’t target when it most certainly does target
now i'm just waiting for the dragon rulers deck :)
i suspect kash rulers could work
been playing a build with dogmatika and adventure, fenrirs, ton of handtraps, just 3 zoo names 3 barrage 3 tenki. The only thing you want to be normaling turn 1 is ratpier anyway, cause drident pass just kinda doesnt cut it, upping the name count gets to thoroblade + ramram more often but also bricks you with normal summons whereas you can layer the different engines more effectively, Grinds very bad compared to regular zoo but regular zoo often needs like 10 turns to lethal by which point a rival deck has established their most likely superior grind anyway.
Idea is more a bunch of cards that are good on their own kitchen sink style, all both good going 1st and 2nd, relatively good into maxx c, try to steal games with big zeus plays and choke them out with handtraps. It's not meta I don't think, but it's doing alright for me in duelist cup. Lots of zoo and handtraps felt awful.
oh btw rtpier is better cause its a 1 card utopic future not sure why josh wasnt going for that. Also why you just dont play the trap, always send ram revive with chak pop with drident revive chak make f0 into draco
YCS Champion 2023 Bologna ♥
50 cards + reasoning and 3 avarice goes hard
31:48
I know zoodiacs can make a zeus with three board wipes but what else
Kash Zoo has been good to me in Duelist Cup.
I prefer KashTear. Basically, if I get to combo off with Tear, I get to Rulk and cryme, then I decide if it’s better to end on Ariseheart, or just leave Fenrir and unicorn
Yeah Kash with small zoo engine actually pretty good
I don't think I'd play Pure Zoo even if the unlimited cards were cheaper. An engine in other XYZ decks(i.e. Kashtira) or decks with little to no Extra Deck usage(VS is an obvious one, and True Draco could be funny with all the Tenkis and Barrages) seems much more practical, though as a dedicated going second build you could try Zeus Turbo, cover it with Eagle Booster to preserve extra uses, and close out the game with Linkage or UDF. Seeing UDF builds used by Purrely and Kashtira fall flat have soured me heavily on that card though.
Now hear me out:
If you start M1 by special summoning Unicorn and then normal summon Ratpier you can get to F0 before commiting to the Arise-Heart line.
Is it broken? No. Is it bricky? It's Kashtira, of course it is.
But even ending on Fenrir + Drident in just 4 summons can be pretty strong.
Since Kashtira doesn't use half its Extra Deck or its Normal Summon most of the time I bet you that the Zoodiac build of Kashtira is the superior build of Kashtira in MD right now.
You can even set up Arise-Heart + Fenrir in exactly 5 summons and if they Nibiru you just do the F0 line afterwards.
Pure Zoo is garbage though. Zoo stun might be interesting since you only ever *need* 2 summons and you can play Gozen & Rivalry so that's 5 floodgates you could play just off the top of my head. That's just worse stun though.
I have seen Runick Zoo and I like the idea. Barrage clears your EMZ, Geri is a 4 for Dweller or Bagooska and F0 is a good card.
Broadbull and Ratpier's XYZ effect was always the real problem with Zoo, and without those, Zoo is in a perfectly fine state
Yes honestly the deck can be awkward without multiple rat and bull you find yourself hard pressed to detach mats going first so chakinine plays are unavailable
Fine? It looks worse than pure Tenyi. Would Broadbull and Ratpier at more than one even be that bad, really?
@@xCorvus7xBroadbull still searches any Beast-Warrior in the game. Make any spice from that you want. Rat at 1 does less than Tempest at 3.
@@ThatOneWeirdFlex Broadbull might add consistency to Tri-Brigade but I'm not sure that's what the deck needs.
I spoke of Ratpier at more than one copy and yes, it's a free +x from the deck (x being the number of legal copies minus the number you opened plus whatever ways you have to return summoned Ratpiers to the deck during this turn) but I'm not sure how easy it is to loop Ratpier and how unfair even a single +1 like that really is.
If he played megaclops he outed alba zoa. Obviously fleur on chakanine stopped it but the opponent clearly let chakanine resolve so it was very possible
How does megaclops out alba zoa? They're unaffected by each other, but that's it
he could play thrust, some going second cards and then play less avarice and see it more
game has evolved, decks can play through handtraps way easier than 5 years ago, especially with 2-3 engine in every deck basically
I would love to show you how to play zoodiac better there are quite a lot of times where you could have beaten some matches but you didn’t see the lines
Has anyone tried barrage with dinos yet? I could see it maybe being better than scrap.
That's how people were playing Dino back in 2017 lol. Every deck that could benefit from Barrage's pop or just a free Broadbull search plus Drident played 3x Barrage when it was legal. I'm sure it still works just as well as it always has, if not better.
Old way adventure engine or dpe?
Runic zoo
How he dont bookmark the handtrap/staple
This. Bookmarking all the staples has made my life so much easier
There's too much shit to bookmark all of it. Even after they expanded the limit, I still run out after trying to bookmark every main/extra staple
Clearly, they need to bump Ratpier to 2
I watched a video of someone who modded MD to allow them to play all the Zoo cards unlimited, wasn’t that impressive imo so you might be spitting!
@@JoeLikesBlue I'm playing a going 2nd variant with Kashtira and board breaking cards, while easy access to zeus is amazing, this deck will be fine and not op as long as Zeus is limited to 1.
@@JoeLikesBluewait you can mod MD without getting giga-banned?
I look forward to the TCG limiting Drident again in the year 2057 because they are horrified someone might play a deck they aren't trying to sell you 100 dollar cards for.
Do you still play yugioh in real tournaments?
He does.
He just won a ycs today
shifter and using that psychic link 1 than needs monsters in the ex monster zone non link material, send and the avarice is live
Gravity controller?
Or use trap bait card from xyz reborn to back and front. Keep reviving 😷
btw corridors of time is such a good soundtrack
Two rat and this deck becomes tiered
A bit too tiered in fact. Just like in real life, 2 rats will result in WAY MORE than just 2 rats.
2 rats and yugioh ends
@@Liliana_the_ghost_catyeah once you give them the ability to summon rat from deck with stuff like UFD and sp existing things get a bit over the top
@@Mikey-ct3qf ye
@@Liliana_the_ghost_catreally enjoying zoo kash so far tbh it plays through so much
whats stopping you from throwing a small mathmech engine in here actually
Basic decency?
Because Cyberse is cringe
yo josh and community what do you think about branded? I personally feel like that finally is not a bozo deck anymore with just a one card combo
With the new support it has more gas than ever, problem is an unfavorable matchup against purrely and rescue ace once the support comes out.
So probably good enough rn, tier 3 once the support for purrely and rescue ace is out.
Thrust dbarrier walls you
@@centurion2396I haven't seen a single Purrely player since the banlist changes, oddly enough. Still playing Thrust + Herald though to be safe.
Branded isn't the only deck that needs non-engine to deal with Noir, it's just hard to make room for it in Branded unless you go over 40 cards.
@@FakeHeroFang that is kinda my point, branded doesn't have a big non engine place (at least in MD and ocg since the maxx c package is huge), and against labyrinth you basically lost once they activate d barrier.
Purrely is still running wild on the ladder you just have been lucky so far and with the small noir coming out very soon the deck will be even harder to deal with, and branded doesn't have an in engine way of dealing with purrely or even a line to out it consistently enough.
And with emergency around the corner too, rescue ace will be way too strong for branded to deal with.
Branded is still a great deck, probably one of the best ways to play fusions now since tears are all dead, but considering the other decks, it is nowhere near the top.
@@FakeHeroFang generally branded is "too fair" of a deck, mathmech stops you fully from playing the game, dragon link out resources every deck in the game, rescue ace with emergency is just fuck you turbo with setting 4 from deck and you need on average 2 interactions per monster to stop their effects and Purrely sits on a tower that loops the hell out of all of ur cards (even if sent to the gy noir can still target them there) and it has been tiered with 1 delicious in the TCG, we have 2 legal.
I won't say much about kashtira since it is a clunky mess, but vanquish soul also outressources branded and they can consistently negate ur fusion, fallen of albaz and even play around ur fusion effects.
Honestly zoodiac engine (3 barrage, 1 whip, 1 boarbow, 1 drident) might be better than the DDD engine in Unchained
Depends on which one you're referring to. I Mean the spell negate one is pretty good, and there would be debate as I think unchained has a fiend lock. But if they're running the kali yuga package it is in fact, significantly worse to play zoo
@@JJSquirtle I was talking about the machinex engine
@@bluedemontr-whisperofwind-2296 ah sorry. That would probably still be favoured by machinex I'd think. Unchained isn't really lacking ways to pop itself
@@JJSquirtle yeah but drident is still one hell of a card and whiptail allows you to out cards you normally wouldn't be able to
@@bluedemontr-whisperofwind-2296 you're not wrong. I think it would still be considered for sure
zoo isnt even close to full power, rapier is only at 1, broadbull is still banned, norden is banned, toad is banned, not to mention that the general power level of decks has gone up so much since zoo's prime, its the same reason that the d rulers coming back basically does nothing
Give them all that and I'll be shocked if they aren't broken
There are so many mistakes here lol
As someone who played during zoo format while listening to the chrono trigger bgm hit some type of way
Is invoker legal in master duel? He could play a rank 3 engine tbh. 🤔
Yes
Yeah, M-X Saber got added a little while ago, a 3.5 axis build on Terrortop/Taketomborg and a bunch of Ghost Girls could definitely make use of it, just remember Ratpier has to be Normal Summoned to dump so it isn't worth specialing out until Konami gets wild and decides a second one is safe to bring back)
@@metalmariomegasecond rat is too much ngl
@@Mikey-ct3qf Second rat would make the deck playable. Nothing more. UDF + Drident + SP isn't crazier than any other top deck. It also cannot play around nib in any way. Doesn't even have crazy grind game either.
@@claire6452now remember that it’s 2017 deck that didn’t get any new support why would they want it to be playable same thing goes for D-ruler and orcust
MBT: "This -package- is good and will see some play."
Josh: "This -deck- is trash."
Literally not even having the same conversation
Josh literally said the deck wasn't good, did you watch either vids?
Did you even read my comment?
@@Tyke-Myson did you edit your comment just to purposely try and make me look wrong?
@leakyrobot7292 no, I had two s-s on same.
@@Tyke-Myson So we're just lying now
*MBT*
*right*
Rumao
The shitty Groundislava song remake that's free to use sounds so bad u gotta use a new song haha
Zoo kash is the best way to play it….🤷🏽♂️
This guy does not like cyberse monsters
I don't think Zoodiac is going to be the most broken deck again but come on, why are we going first with Zoodiac? Our main gameplan should be to make Zeus. Avarice is also the most cope card ever, idk why you'd ever play that in 2023.
The only good thing about Avarice right now is that it works as a Thrust target, getting you marginally more value than using Talents as a Pot of Greed(and usable in a few more situations), but you almost never want to use Talents as a Pot of Greed to begin with. I unironically choose to run Herc Base over Avarice as my way of putting back cards in Striker nowadays(which has won me games slightly faster in some cases than I would otherwise, but still feels REALLY wonky to run).
The deck is stupid even in its current state. Its bigges strength being that is amazing ging first and second all the while shitting on all major handtraps in the game. He should play more board breakers that are good going first or second in his list. Avarice is crazy in this deck an fit is the right choice to play it.
Removals are everywhere in modern meta. Zoodiacs don't have enough extenders to get a zeus onboard
@@BananenBread The deck isn't good at going first, Drident pass or UDF pass isn't going to cut it in 2023. Avarice is also terrible in this deck because it's literally a turn 3 card and does nothing going first or second. There's a very valid reason nobody plays it, not even good Zoodiac decks.
@robottobor7276 That's because you throw 3 handtraps or board breakers at your opponent, then normal a zoodiac to go into Zeus. Your non-engine is supposed help your normal summon push through and if it's not doing that, you have to go back into the deck building process or Zoodiac is just not good in that given format.
The deck is extremely stupid. IT doesnt care whether it goes first or second and plays under every single major handtrap in the entire game. You should however put in some board breakers that are good going first or second like: econ or book. Even though it doesnt look like much drident pass, backed by a backrow and a handtrap, is more than enought to stop all decks.
33:45 ”Kash can’t make Tomohawk easily and it’s not that good. Only dragon rulers can summon it with advantage” the other mbt take that is fuckin absurd😂
Go on, explain how kash makes tomahawk super easy? Because where I'm standing you need either unicorn search birth with another name or fenrir search arisheart. Both lines you lose everything else the deck can do and you just pray your opponent has nothing to stop tomahawk. lol
@@phstingray205 I mean it worked here. Never said it was super easy
@@phstingray205if your gameplan is to turbo tomahawk you won't just play kash cards you play generic lvl 7 extenders. If we're being fair here what one card combo does rulers have that can turbo tomahawk
@@phstingray205and what does the d-rulers do beyond tomahawk
dracosack ?
They're both wrong, the best deck at turboing Tomahawk is Armed Dragons with Tempest. It's still 'please don't negate my massive chokepoint.dek' no matter how you play it though, so who really cares.
Maxx c being a stupid card colorized in 4k
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24:13 Nah bro you are stupid for this, there are literal one card combos that can FTK...stop the cap 😂😂
We call those decks toxic, point flew right over your head
@@shwedoo-6035 unless it's Exodia. The only FTK that gets a green light because anime