Because it doesn't fit the MSM narrative. The irony is that they don't give a rat's ass about ANYONE; their ratings thrive on division and chaos. That's why.
I’m so glad you spoke on womanism vs. feminism. My good friend I met in college told me she was a womanist and explained how black women are left out of the feminist movement. I never knew about it until she told me something!
the only straight I am is a straight up bitch yeah I’m a womanist too...I’m not going to go with a new trendy modern term when the one that already existed made it clear already... More black women should be (if they are not already) a WOMANIST.
@@user-ek4yd7hx9l womanism was around wayyyy earlier and created to give black women of color a voice and support that they were NOT getting in the earlier movements of feminism all this newer extra b.s. are only because SOME people believe they should be included in everything and then make it more complicated by later adding more "non traditional" members I hate it too but atleast I know what came first and why and all the reasons why these different terms even exist
I felt invisible going to white pride and I had a white women tell me how they loved pale skin on a woman. I had white gay men tell me that they had a Black woman inside them as they then used Black vernacular. Or said microaggressive shit to me. I had a white lesbian and her friends come at me and my friends over a misunderstanding they had. We knew this one lesbian, Mary and my friend, whose a white trans man, made a joke to the Mary. Mary laughed and then this white woman near Mary started to berate my friend. As we kept telling her, "We know her. We joke like this." She continued to curse out my friend and got her friends to curse him out. Yhen when my other friend, Nick and I stepped in, she started to use her white women tears and tell us how we didn't know what it's like to be judged. "I'm in a little tiny town in Texas." Nick: "You're talking to a gay Latino man, a Black Lesbian and a white trans guy. Please don't use that I struggle, shit." And I miss Pride but I feel not as attacked with microaggressions when I go to Black Pride. I dont have people ask about my fucking hair and then try to touch it like I'm a pet.
@ Veronica,,,,,Stand strong in your convictions honey ,,,,dont let ignorant people bring your day down like that oh helllllllll no!!!! Never let ANYONE, ANYWHERE , take away your SHINE ,,,you are whole , complete, and perfect just the way you are , period . Love and hugs from Arizona, ,=^..^=
I'm sorry that thoose people discriminated against you and hurt you. That sounds traumatic. Soon there will be a pride where all people can be proud of not only their sexuality and gender but also their race. I'm with you and I'll continue to fight for all Black people and I plan on making the LGBTQ+ community the safe space for all its supposed to be.
White people did this or that was basically the entire meaning of that long drawn out comments. But doing so you sound just like the bigot your complaining about.
As someone who is white, I've always thought that coming out at black was harder. Because racism still exists in the LGBTQ+ community, which can suck because then you may also be alienated by a community that is supposed to love you? Especially if said person is trans and black. Back during the aids pandemic, trans people were horribly looked down upon. So that was almost a triple whammy back then. Pose really opened my eyes to this and it's broken my heart everytime I think about it.
I feel that as a black man from Philadelphia I've been out since I was 13 it has been 31 years since I've been out and I have not seen no change I want to tell it like a TI is I feel that as lgbtq that we need to stop the BS and come together and talk about these issues and start fighting for these instead of talking our skin color because that's the end of the day whatever's coming down the pipe is going to affect us all regular rather of our skin color or sexuality or rather what we do it will affect us because no matter how hard we fight against how we get the best jobs or how we get better education or better medical services we're all on this rock were fighting over resources that can be divided among Us it makes no sense for us to be against each other but then again how can we love God and then hate our brother to all you out there who might be spiritual how can you love and say that there is love and acceptance but yet you hate on each other we need to get it together and stop all the fakeness and start being real with each other.
Learned a lot from this video but I just hate how there is a divide within the gay community we're all fighting to be treated with respect yet we can't treat each other with respect 😑
@Dizzle Are there racist white gay men? Sure. Is every black or latino man kind and open to every race? Hell no. You painting an entire race with a wide brush is so childish.
www.globalresearch.ca/the-dumbing-down-of-america-by-design/5395928 Being transGENDER doesn't only equate to being gay. Wtf? PEOPLE NEED TO WAKE UP!!!! Race will always be an issue because of brainwashing, old, racist, white patriarchy/$upremacy.
Dizzle no we not finna do this. Sorry you don’t speak for the entire race on this one. Of course white peoples have oppressed POC but there are racist in every race. Don’t act like it’s just white people because it’s not. Yes it’s a vast majority but a lot of these white people stand for us. Let’s say it all together now RACIST COME IN ALL RACES.
I'm 55 years old and one thing I've noticed is that black culture is routinely adopted (especially in recent years) commercially and it becomes pop culture; but it began in black culture. Black people are cool and we do it like nobody else. And now, we're seeing it in mainstream media. So I just wanted to add that bit of a perspective, because it's really an indicator of the progress that people of color have made into mainstream culture.
Paul Tacoma. and that's the problem with the Black Community "we do it like Nobody else" NO bitch, all ethnicity groups have exceptional talent. there is struggle in every minority. Black people LOVE to complaint about inclusiveness yet they are the first to try to segregate themselves with asshole comments like "we do it like nobody else"
TarantulaCandy nobody’s saying other races are talentless etc. but u would be blind to not see that a lot of trends that are popular these days are things that originated in the black community. Facts are facts.
I don't see the gentrification and commodification of marginal culture by the mainstream as a form of real progress. Imo, it's just an acceptance of oppressed culture that would challenge the status quo, whitewashed to keep the same regimes in place -- better looking regimes, sure, but still as oppressive.
TearsForFears Yes and you have to be careful of bias. Which causes tension. We have known the ills for decades. Let’s get to the solution. Pissing people off is not it. That’s the point.
Totally agreed. No one cares if you’re gay or trans as long as you act like a somewhat normal and good person. Supporting our President on the other hand - comes with the risks of being physically assaulted, losing your job, or doxxed. Sad world we live in.
TearsForFears This country is so racist that people have to fake hate crimes because they don’t actually happen often at all. Come on, wake up. The media is trying to push a race war.
Very enlightening. This has given me plenty to think about. I'm 76/white/gay, and I appreciate how clearly you addressed the topic. I am constantly assessing my prejudices in an attempt to rid myself of irrational thinking about people I don't know. It's not easy. I walked into a gay club in LA many years ago and discovered I was in a "black club". When I walked through the door it seemed (incorrectly) that the music stopped and all eyes turned toward me... the only white guy. I was afraid. I had to make a choice to either turn around and leave, or go to the bar and order a drink. I ordered a drink. The bartender was very nice, but I felt out of my comfort zone. I have never again been in the position of being the only white guy in the room, but I am aware that black people are in that situation frequently. I've seen it, and I want to reach out to help, but how does one approach a stranger and say "how can I help make you comfortable?" (That actually sounds like a pretty good pick-up line, lol.) I'm an old man now. Talk about being invisible in a night club. I haven't been clubbing in many years, for 3 reasons: 1.) I don't pick up strangers (anymore) but boy do I have stories.) 2.) Nobody talks to old men in a gay club. 3.) Sitting alone watching young people have fun makes me look and feel "pervy". I'm banished to the fringes of gaydom...the trash bin of gay founding fathers. But I'm proud that my generation made many strides toward gay rights. I hope your generation will find a way to unite us. Thanks for the excellent video.
Maybe that is a good start. how does one approach a stranger and say "how can I help make you comfortable?" Start there. There are so many free books at the library like Stamped from the Beginning, Nice Racism, and Mediocre that can teach you how to have a more thoughtful dialogue with people, as people, and acknowledge you see them as they are.
I'm not from the LGBT community but I love to listen to your channel because I feel more educated about the community. I want to have kids and he/she will maybe be gay and I think it is important for me to educate myself. Thank you for that :)
@Cha Ndo Mav - Oh my goodness!! We seriously need more people like you as parents. I volunteer with youth groups and it's sad how many Black and Brown kids are out on the streets or even resorting to suicide because their families treated them like garbage for being gay. We have to embrace our babies and love them even more when they're viewed as "different." Your comment truly touched my heart.
@@hhTHEBOSSANATERh it's so she can prop them up. She doesn't want to just be happy she had a child, she wants to use the kid being gay as a way to virtue signal. Using your child as a means to prop up yourself is the first sign of a horrible parent.
@24 SadSongs The thing is, institutional racism may exist in certain areas, but all of those institutions are controlled by the leftist communist politicians and elites. The police are not racist savages hunting down black men. That narrative has been throughly disproven. Blind and handicapped actually have something physically holding them back and needs aids to compensate. Minorities are more privileged these days than a straight white man who knows he's a man.
I'm a straight black man...Im fucking glad to say I learned something new from this video and I did my own research outside of this and I must say I'm happy I learned more thank you also you got a straight dude on here that actually payed and attention, listened and learned preach it up ✌️
This very much needed to be said! I remember when I first came out and started talking to guys and there was this white guy who asked me "How was it growing up in a black house hold, I bet it was so crazy". It felt so weird to be asked, like I was his research experiment.
Cedric I feel as though most men of color are often coming into this community of open mindedness that white men don’t have to us and that stems to their own cultural barriers they have against us...
So, let me get this straight... You criticize white people for not understanding your struggles, and when a white person directly comes to you to ask about your experience in order to alleviate his ignorance, you say it's weird and off-putting... You are part of the problem.
@GoodGuy Stalin for instance there are certain populations of the gay community who like the company of their own race more than other because of the similarities in their experiences. This, while in the minority, is something that happens somewhat frequently. This causes groups of either race to be formed which is what some people consider segregation.
GoodGuy Stalin Exactly! I’ve never heard of Pride segregation. I’ve been to Salt Lake City’s Pride Center many times and there were all races who went there. Pride is about equality! Specifically with sexual orientation. If any of you are bringing race into this then you do not stand for Pride. It’s about EQUALITY! So anyone who believes or wants segregation in the Pride community, well they just don’t deserve to stand for Pride then. Like I said though, I’ve NEVER heard of this. It must be in certain locations.
This video is incredible. Thank you for doing the work you do and making us white gays face our discomfort with the conversation head on. The LGBTQ movement needs to remember that there's no LGBTQ equality without also having equality for black people, people of colour, disabled people and so on, because our community includes all of that.
Sophia Is Strange the definition of pride is a feeling or deep pleasure or satisfaction derived of one’s own achievements. It’s just about feeling proud of who you are and where you come from. For example: He takes great pride in his appearance. It does not have anything to do with loving other people. If anything, if somebody has too much pride, it’s considered just being selfish. The only thing more dangerous than the enemy is pride.
Lol have u never been on Grindr? “Whites Only” “No blacks sorry” “white guys to the front” it’s ALL on there. Just cause ur gay doesn’t mean u can’t be a hardcore racist too.
got sent here from someone expressing why they’re not going to pride. thank you for enlightening me and i’m sure many others and i will 100% be taking this into consideration when deciding on going to pride. i really appreciate you taking your time to describe this to others
I didn’t even know there was a black pride😅and I’m black I definitely get why there’s a divide, but I don’t want it to continue. We as human beings need to work to overcome the divide, but that also means the other side( the white side) actually needs to take the time to listen😒
African Proud I didn’t say we need to dilute our culture. That’s the point. All cultures need to be accepted at pride. But division is not the answer. At least not forever. I have friends from all races and I’m not trying to separate myself from them.
For the same reason the heterosexual community is segregated! White gay folks come from those same racist communities, escaping homosexual oppression! The thing is, for them, they’ve held on to those conscious and subconscious racist beliefs!
I'll tell you why people are divided. People are divided because everyone keeps lumping themselves into groups and attacking other groups, instead of existing as an individual. This tribalism has got to stop. Tribes fight, and thats exactly what is going on right now, albeit in internet form.
Also its human nature to find your own group, thats why racism exist and is pretty much impossible to get rid of. Racists are people who are way to into their own group that they dont care about the other groups. We all fit into one group tho, humans, even if we were all identical, we would still find ways to go into separate groups. It would be awesome if humans werent like that and put their differences aside and work together but no. We are stuck being a civilization that separates each other and sometimes hate each other. Societys just messed up man
Amen. Don’t underestimate those who are in power (I’m not talking about puppet politicians) though, they are the forces responsible for our division and since people are inherently sheepish, they haven’t had a difficult time dividing us.
I'm not fighting anyone. What everyone should have pride in their nationality and where they come from. It's not a fucking problem to be proud of who you are.
Growing up the way I did, I was always scared of my sexuality. I was raised by a psychopath who, among other things, was a terrible racist/sexist. I never really felt comfortable even looking into what it meant to be bisexual and what the LGBTQ+ community was about. Now that I'm free and coming out of my shell, I'm happy to see that there are so many resources regarding all the different members of the community. I'm disappointed to hear that there is segregation here but I'm grateful for your explanation. I hope that this can end in our lifetime. Stay strong and thank you for your videos.
Foolish to say it's harder for a certain race, sex, to come out over another race. That was a racist comment. Every individual has their own struggle, and their own victories.
Thank you Tarek. It is people like you that makes me feel so proud to be a black gay man. Watching your videos gives me faith that is young black people like you that will help make the world a better place for our children. ❤️ Like if you guys agree.
See this is interesting to me because I'm black and never once owned Jordan's, AF1s, Tim's, never had a chain (except dog tags), etc. Never been a big rap fan either. I grew up on metal, classical, and now I'm big on EDM and can usually go along with whatever's top 40 Am I not "black" then? Despite the melanin? What am I? Edit: Ah, "skinfolk" is what I am. I see. Good to know I'm not "black enough" for the black community. I would have thought things would have changed over the past 10 years. I guess I'll ask again in 2030.
Commenting before I watch because fuck it: I grew up the same way. Our individuality is apart of our black boy joy/black girl magic in my opinion. I hate how people try to minimize who we are based on our interests etc. There's no proper way to "act" a certain race
We, black folks, are not monothlic I'm from Southern Cali which is hella different from folks in the bay area😆. However, those black folks up there are hella different from folks in Texas, Georgia, Atlanta, Detroit etc...folks need to realize that within our ethnic group there are different cultures as well
Hey! Wanna hang out? I have always had a difficult time finding folks in our community that has some things like that in common. Freakin LOVE Classical and really intricate Metal music. Mastadon, Deftones.
music is music . I’m from da east side of atlanta so yeah ik gucci mane nn future songs word for word, but i also throw on Chop Suey, Creep, Various PTV songs, Red Hot Chili peppers, pearl jam, etc. And idc who in the car, if i’m driving you might hear a Thug song den a lil peep song den fuck around and throw on Green Day cuz i’m just in the mood. My niggas talk shit, but never no disrespect fr cuz they know the person i am. I like anime too and listen to piano arrangements of a lot of dif songs. If you black you black, some of us just have dif experiences and tastes.
But on a serious note I feel as if a lot of white people won’t understand this because a lot of white people don’t see the privilege that their skin holds. They don’t go through our experiences so they’re desensitized. They don’t get followed in high end clothing stores, cops don’t pull them over because they “looked a bit lost.” So because they don’t go through these things they won’t understand the fact that we know the look, and that look is so damn uncomfortable. I’d also like to add that they don’t know how lonely it feels when they’re the only person who looks like them in a space. Until our comfortability is respected and steps are taken to ensure that, your safe spaces will never be our safe spaces. So rest assured that we will make our own.
we need to stop looking for acceptance from white people, I don't care what they think and never will as long as it does not affect my daily life why should I
Bak 345 The thing is, as much as we want to deny it, it does effect our daily lives. We live in America. You see what they’re doing to us. You see how many innocent black lives are lost. Why act like that shit isn’t happening?
@DA BIG D DA BIG D it's called proximity crime. Black American People are not inherently violent. History is their witness. The geographical segregation and redlining makes it so that people will always interact, most times than not with folks of the Same ethnicity. It's baffle me that in 2019, people still brings such fallacy. Besides there are entire not for profit groups in cities affected by crime and violence who work hard to prevent and protect their communities on their own dime. With very little to no support or media exposure. Let's NOT.
This is such an informative video. I honestly didn't know that there was a divide between Black Pride vs White Pride in the gay community. I'm Latina so I've experienced some racism and prejudice from both Mexicans and White people it's such a weird thing. Thank you for sharing this.
Honestly 'White Pride' sounds wrong to me, like when you hear it I don't think about gay pride, I think about Nazi Germany Honestly I would rather celebrate pride with everyone and I don't see anything wrong with smaller communities having their own on the side
that’s because “white” has been used to oppress and harm people since its creation. People dont have an issue with scottish pride or french pride because its a (white) heritage with culture. “White” pride is an amalgamation of all those cultures and just used to oppress. Thats why white pride celebrates nothing but their skin color and their “superiority”.
@@wuzittooya No need to be racist; no need to exclude groups when talking about who should be treated as human. Pretty much everybody, wants ALL people to be treated as human. Dskmb3 just wants to stop being attacked because of the color of their skin. Treating people like sub-human is terrible, thankfully "western-culture" has been doing some serious work, and the majority of the world's current slaves are owned by "non-whites".
It is important for black same gender loving communities to have their own spaces. We have to realize that the only marginalized thing we have in common with white gays is sexuality and even that it is approached differently.
Dude shit the hell up your not the mouthpiece for all gay black people. Actually you're more wrong than anything. Most people that belongs to the lgbtq community. Know how it feels to be treated unfairly. So they normally don't draw lines between people. You stay over there your this color. Not something normally a gay etc person acts like. That's the problem with people. They want to say black or white white people this. Just let people be people. There actually not that much that's different besides the color of skin. We all are humans we all pee poop bleed we love we hate we do everything the same. If you want change stop being the problem. Stop labeling them by there skin tone.
@@jjbentley9 yeah white gays know what it feel like to be discriminated for who they are but have no problem doing the same thing to other gay people. My brother is gay and when he said that white gays are white first made me understand why Black gays have their own pride.
It’s like there’s churches and then there’s black and Asian, Hispanic, and Russian churches. Schisms happen in all kinda of communities over small differences.
I think a lot folks really forgot "treat others as you would like to be treated" Judge not lest you be judged...and if ya gonna judge...judge on character...not race !
Pride is about coming out as gay or lesbian and not being a ashamed. Black, White, Latino. Because each culture is different and there is still a race problem.
I wish there was no vs why cant we love each other fuck its a fucked up world i wish we just stop being like this and just get together and love each other
I was just thinking about this topic myself! Specifically, I was analyzing how there were so many films centering on lesbians that are white or anything other than black. There are a few movies out there centering on black lesbians, but the only one I’ve seen that was noteworthy was, “Pariah”. That alone sheds light on a difference in history, because even though black lesbians have experiences that can be cinematic as well, many of our productions are limited to things like UA-cam webseries instead of Netflix or film (not that UA-cam isn’t a great platform, but of course a different audience can be tapped into when using film to portray a story). I’m glad you mentioned Pose, bc it’s a major step for that specific community and the Black LGBT community as a whole. However, there is still a long way to go for black women and our representation on bigger platforms. Pose is a dope production and I think it’s so crucial that our stories are being told and even though Ik it’s not all true, there is a realism to it and that’s why I enjoy watching it as a queer woman. I support my people and I’m always ready to be amazed by what we will do next. Going back to main topic though, the divide is all too real. Being a white lesbian and being a black lesbian are not the same and might not ever be the same because of that cultural and historical gap.
The amazing show Pose on Netflix introduced to me segregation within the LGBT community and I was so shocked and saddened. Thank you for speaking on this topic because I was curious and wanted to know more on the “why” of this happening.
same for me. as a white person i was completely unaware of the racist history of the lgbt community but pose made me so much more appreciative of what not just trans women have done but specifically black trans women. honestly they need more recognition. and i DONT mean rupauls dragrace 🙄 but thats a different topic LMAO
I've made a point as a gay white man of calling out racism when I hear it. I've eliminated friends and stepped up to welcome others and show support. I do it because it's right, not because I feel I'm woke. I also question myself now when I have to which doesn't include censoring myself, but I think before I speak. I also don't tolerate ageism in the gay community, another serious problem. My real friends are based on shared feelings and interests, and if we laugh at each other's jokes, that's another great way to determine what real friendship is regardless of race or age or gender or any other difference.
Unity is very important, however, lets be real. In many a gay community there's a lot of division for all sorts of stupid reasons. For example, when I came out as bisexual (and later more accurately pansexual) back in the late 90's early 2000's I was in no way shape or form accepted or welcomed by the majority of the gay community in my city. I was considered a straight girl or curious because I'm not butch or gold star. The gay bars were also mostly segregated with a few mainly white bars and a few Black bars only mixing a little. Time to put all that shit to bed. That being said, due to the sad fact that manu Black people are dealing with so much trauma due to systemic racism and oppression, it is sometimes necessary to have Black only spaces... so if you're not Black you don't get to have an opinion on that aspect.
That part when you spoke about cornrows very briefly, you're right. Cornrows weren't accepted until the movie 10 came out and the white main character bo was wearing cornrows then all of a sudden it was cool and accept. Then people were calling them "Bo braids" and like jesus christ.
4:44 you right my sister just came and I know it’s because she was afraid of what the family would think. I told her it doesn’t matter what she into as long as she safe and has a healthy relationship I’m always gonna love her she my sister!!!
UA-cam recommended your channel to me and I am very glad I clicked on this video. I have always known the gay male community was racist. From the age of 18 until now, in my early 50s, I have been confronted by and deeply disappointed by the rampant racism in the gay male community. The entire video was on point. But where you fully got me was the issue of "preference". I live in Straightville Connecticut and somewhat rely on Grindr to find other gay men, not necessarily for sex but more for nonsexual companionship. I am tired of hanging out at bars and restaurants with only straight people. I want to have a conversation during which I can fully be myself. Unfortunately, this is where the issue of preference and racism collide and it all turns to shit. On Grindr, I have been rejected, sometimes rather harshly, for being black (as if the profile picture didn't tell you so in the first place), for not having a gym-toned, six-pack stomach, for being "old", for being black and not having the "stereotypical monster dick of death" to go with the skin tone, for not being "masculine" enough (how much is enough by the way?). All these start out as "preferences" and slide into racism pretty fast. Even from other black and Spanish-speaking gay men. It's hard to find common ground when, as Tarek said, you are being told that you are not good enough. I am opting out of Grindr for a while starting now. My sense of self cannot take the beating anymore. I don't see where the divide will be healed within the community. I really don't. I would rather we keep having "regular" pride and Black Pride events separately. Black gay men need a space where they can feel truly emotionally safe, and unfortunately, it's not within the encompassing white America and white gay male community. Racism is the original sin of the United States. This country was built from its very beginnings on the backs of slave labor and only white people benefitted. Look at the drinking water situation in Flint, Michigan. Look at what's happening with the brown babies and children at The Southern Border in Texas? It's a crying shame and yes, I have cried and I am still crying over everything that has happened to these people since Trump came into office. The reality is this: If that were white babies taken from their white parents being fed rancid food, housed in cages, with no real beds or warm blankets and left to sit around in soiled diapers, White America would have revolted and that shit would have been fixed, people would be going to jail, lawsuits would have been filed -- all before 10 am the next morning. The racism in every demographic is very real and the only time change will happen is when white America decides to change things because whatever it has now affected them in an intimate and compellingly painful manner. In the 1980s and 1990s, crack cocaine was the scourge of the urban centers of America. And it greatly affected black and brown people. What was the reaction from White America? "These people are animals. They are disgusting. We should lock them up and throw away the key. They should go straight to jail and not to rehab. Rehab is too good for them." Fast forward to the 2000s. There's an opioid epidemic ravaging the suburban and small town communities in America and it's affecting mostly white people. They are dying at an alarming rate --- just like the crack cocaine epidemic. What's the reaction? "These are innocent victims. They need help. We need more rehab centers and more rehab beds. We have to treat them with empathy and kindness." In terms of of the topic at hand, "Preferences" will go away when people start using "preferences against white gay men. Racism will start to become a thing of the past when major reverse racism -- real reverse racism-- starts to hit white America and they start feeling the pain that everyone else has been feeling for centuries. Until then, good luck with that.
Wow you hit that on the head "CTMan" and where you really opened my eyes as I saw it was the crack & opioid epidemics it happens just as you explained it perfectly. thank you for sharing that.
Usually people who talk such noble words are sitting at the house doing absolutely nothing; you see-- it's just like those celebrities who taken their time with the same type of lectures. But we find out how hypocritical they really are. Waiting for the one true God to end it all and ask people to repent their sins onto him and all this nonsensical fighting to an end.
@@mr.awesome7552 you know; irony is they do the same; so tell me the true definition of racism. Fact is you have people weaponize such words for their own ends enough it doesn't mean anything. Frankly I'm tired of it. Did you know the rainbow didnt belong to the LBGT?? But in genesis of the bible was a promise between god and Noah that he wont flood the earth after seeing constant sins of man? When does race have anything to do with sexuality or sin. We are one human kind. Btw I'm black, its messed up buddy we cant have a normal conversation without people jumping to conclusions ect. All in all I'm tired of this mess.
Exactly, to say that "This group is this or that" "This other group is this or that" Is what divides people in the first place. Everybody deserves respect, we are all human and we don't need to put labels on that. We shouldn't call someone as "This is a transgender person" We just say "This is a person"
we're here ! we recognize our privilege and want to use it to lift poc up. also i dont agree with having a 'white pride' lol thats like straight pride 🤢
Dizzle please stop generalizing. A lot of us aren’t racist and would like to help, but that can’t happen if both sides don’t let their guard down. I understand the problems within the community, but we can’t have a discussion like that.
I love when you discussing these issues because you always speak from a knowledgeable and factual place. Giving a very clear understanding of the topic at hand. You don't put one side down but you speak truth and positivity on black issues and i respect and love that. i wish there were more people like you whom give both side a chance. i wish i had heard about black pride a long time ago cause i would be there ever year. Thank you Tarek i hope i get a chance to meet you a pride this year.
Sure people can say "It's just a preference", but they need to remember that there are a LOOOOT of people who "PREFER" the world without the LGBTQ+ community in it. let that sink in.
@@RuffyLiebtNami There is a difference, but they are both forms of discrimination. Particularly when it involves excluding entire races and subcultures as opposed to one person from said groups.
Honestly I wish more people would think of it like this in this sense. Like sure you won't be attracted to everyone but still excluding a whole racial group is way too excessive.
@@DeverusSlays That is true, both are forms of discrimination. You know what else is discrimination? Liking bacon and not liking carrots. People are attracted to who they are attracted to. Isn't that the entire POINT of the LGBT community? Freedom to love who you choose? If a gay dude only dates dudes, THAT is discrimination. If you are saying that all discrimination is bad, then you are insane, and anti-LGBT. When it comes to ethnicities, people are naturally more attracted to people who like similar to them, and you need to be attracted to your partner for a relationship to work. Now if you refuse to date outside your race due to bigotry, or even refuse to consider the option, then you have a problem, but don't shame people for being attracted to whomever they feel attraction for.
Watching this in 2020 I’m a little shaken by how this Pride month has changed from last year. It has been a rollercoaster with the pandemic and the police violence and demonstrations. I do think that the silver lining has been that the conversation about race and systematic racism and racism in the gay community has been happening more in general. I think for gay people, and especially for white gay people (speaking as a white gay male) it’s important for us to understand that we are all a product of a racist culture. If you are white your experience of that racist culture has likely given you a false sense of entitlement wether you know it or not. We carry that baggage with us no matter where we go until we learn to look for it in ourselves and discard it. As a white person I used to get very defensive and uncomfortable in discussions about race and privilege, but now I think it’s really helpful to examine where that defensiveness is coming from and looking there to make a change and shed some of that baggage. Anyway great video and Happy Prides!
@Erich Addler Regular white people especially the poor and middle class have nothing to feel bad about. Most Europeans came to America poor as dirt and starving. They signed indentured contracts and worked slave labour
@@americancoushatta974 the main groups at fault for the Atlantic slave trade are the Portuguese, Spanish, and African Kings who sold their own people to anyone who would buy them. I think statistically, British descended whites bought less than 2% of the slaves brought to the new world
@@MajesticSkywhale The 1st slaves in America were Europeans from countries like Ireland, Scottland, Wales and more Native Americans were exported from America than Africans actually brought in. African slaves were expensive while slaves from European countries were way cheaper and easier to kidnap.
I’m out to most my family and I am white. My girlfriend is black and she cant tell her family till she graduates and leaves the house. It’s scary because the thought that she would get kicked out her house for being bi sexual. She’s means the world to me and she has support from my family and friends
The color of your skin is irrelevant. Her parents raised her differently than you. Some white people in the lgbt community also have trouble coming out because their parents wouldn’t support them.
The reason I disliked it is because I am against all collectivism. And this video and the ideas in it are deeply collectivist. I don’t like how the justification for many pride movements is the fact that their ‘group’ was oppressed. It is a dangerous thing to ascribe an important virtue like pride to what imaginary group you believe you belong to. And even worse to legitimize it based on whether or not your group was oppressed.
Weird that they'd ban rap, but rap isn't a genre. Rap isn't hip hop. They're separate things. So the DJ's could still play hip hop and still be following the rules.
Thank you Tarek, This is my very first time watching and listening to a gay man of color. I wanted to come to listen to what you had to say and thank God I did! I understand so much now. My life will be lived in honor of ALL people! Thank you again
Random conservative here. Trying to represent and let others know we don't hate. We accept other cultures and we love what America is supposed to stand for. Ultimate freedom and Liberty and justice for all.
People most of the time just see the radical right and they don’t understand that a lot of conservatives are actually decent people. Same goes with liberals.
@@hallefritos9116 I think the issue though, comes when it's left to politics. If you are conservative, chances are that you're gonna vote red in any given election due to the fact that they will represent your views more. So just because y'all may be "good" people, the people who y'all elect are not. They more often than not are voting for things that discriminate/ further marginalize minorities. If you vote for someone who does that, then it doesn't matter what you're personal beliefs and views are because you voted for someone who has those views to represent you so by default, you share the same ideas and beliefs. For example just recently look at the Trump administration making it okay for Trans people to be legally discriminated in health care. Look at how they try to stop LGBTQ+ members from adopting. These are just 2 examples, the list of discriminatory actions could go on. If you're conservative and voted for Trump / will vote for him again or any politician who shares those beliefs, then y'all aint "good" people because you don't mind/ think about the implications your vote has.
Angel Bravo This is very untrue. Think about the Democratic Party and who’s led it through the years...the “bad” is just politics in general. The Democratic Party is the true party of division and racism. Learn your history. KKK, keeping AA culture down through “helpful programs” that keep them down, etc. It’s sad how most people honestly believe the Democratic Party is the party for AAs. It’s not and never has been. They just want the votes. Republicans haven’t had any policy that’s held AAs back...same with LGBTQ...but the media promotes this for votes, sadly. 💗
Carried Away racism wasn’t made by one party. This is a tired argument. Study civil rights era and you’ll then know where the kkk went. It’s no mystery the majority of overt racists defected as to the Conservative party as to conserve their racist values. As that’s what conservatism is. Conserving traditional values over inevitable progress. Aka change. Not saying conservatives are racist. No, I’m saying those with the notion to conserve traditional values are sometimes racist since racism is a traditional value here in America. Think about it, overt racist align republican and why?
@@CarriedAwayChannel The way you just straight up lied 💀💀💀. The presidents, mayors, and senators republicans vote into power don't support nor aid in further marginalizing minorities???? If you can vote somebody like that into positions of power, that have harmful agendas that hurt minorities in this country, you are just as awful as they are. If they don't reflect your views, why vote for them or support a party that does??? Is that not common sense??? I sure as hell couldn't but I guess common sense isn't really that common. A fat ass majority of the republican party doesn't even want freedom for all. If that was the case, so many of them wouldn't be against blm, abortion, and LGBTQIA+ rights/ people in general. The party you support reflects your own views and if thats what a majority of what your party is saying and you still support, maybe you aren't the all mighty person you think you are.
I think privilege at this point (other than privilege afforded by your family which has nothing to do with race) is the benefit of the doubt the general public gives you based on their experience or "perceived experience"(as given by media/stereotypes etc) with said demographic...
Appreciate the nuanced conversation you're presenting. It's a difficult message to spread to white people (I find myself as a white person trying to discuss this with my white friends and family in partuclar) that being pro-black and acknowledging the privileges that come with being white are not being anti-white. Yes, there definitely are, as you mentioned, black people that say derogatory things about whites as a way to display black pride and black activism. That's kind of the nature of any social movement and social change; you're going to have people use a spectrum of rhetoric, some of which is more moderate, some of which is more extreme, some of which is divisive. But I've come to understand that you don't have to agree with those exact people to still be behind the movement and the message. I think for some white people, they can't ever make that distinction. Having videos like this is important.
Fiddle Stix It’s not really a difficult message to spread since it’s already spreading through universities and the media. Evergreen is an example of that.
I'm a straight white suburban mom just trying to educate myself. You really taught me some things today and helped me see a different perspective, so thank you!
Dress codes in certain areas and clubs are because of high gang activity tbh. Certain areas have very high murder rates based on gang rivalry. You should really look into that. Everything isn’t about color. Sometimes there’s legit reasons.
You are lost.The bible specifically said',a man shall leave his father and mother and become one with his wife.He created Eve for Adam and not Everado or Everd.Curse be upon them who adds or takes away from the Bible.
This is so huge! Not only for people from US but all around the world. I'm white and Brazilian and this is a topic of conversation here too. We don't have like, a Black pride but we always talk about the diferences of being a white gay men between being Black and... exactly! We need to think about these racial aspects in the gay community because each one experiences the world in different way and this topic is very present in the gay community here in Brazil, of course, because of our colonial history and slave. At the same time, the LGBTQI+ is about celebrating sexual diversity, taking into account the different forms of sexuality and how this sexuality is seen. Black bodies are seen differently from white bodies. PERIOD. But now, if we look at black trans people, black fem drags, the discussion takes on other directions as well because each one has their own place of speech and own peculiarities. We must have dignity to be proud of and if our issues are not discussed in the community, how can we go into the parade pride if we do not feel represented in the discussion? Your video is very important and I have to say that you are one of my inspirations to do YT, even though I have not really started yet.
I love your content sooo much! Keep making quality content I don’t see many gay men of color who shake the table and do all the things you do. I love how you speech with knowledge.
From a person of color cause you have to state that now why does race have to be the focus of anything? We are all American are we not the more we focus on race the harder it is to move forward as a society just wanted to point that out.
Because our country is built on race identity class structures and racism. If we don't advocate for our individual groups we will get left in the dust. This is the basic fabric of politics.
Because without the pretend division divide and conquer won’t work. We’re divided by class. Race. Gender. Belief system and within these divisions exist sub divisions. This is how a few Europeans took over North America and Rome ended up falling. The divisions were exploited causing the population to fight with each other instead of the 20 who were taking the entire thing over. It’s Marxism in action.
Angz Hamz u mean God, Christians idolize Jesus too much and that is very much wrong. Also in the Bible it talks how homosexuality is wrong bc marriage is sacred only between men and woman and nothing else
YoBroJoe you can’t say someone’s belief is wrong. That’s crazy talk and shows that you yourself lack enough discipline and or self control to not judge others for their beliefs. So what. Stoicism 101
Cause were raising walls instead of tearing them down. Im also tired of that defense that if you have a diffrent opinion on something. People respond with your racist or your homophobic/ transphobic. Cant have a debate this way
Difference of opinion is mainly an issue when those same folks want to push their thinking onto you and thus discriminate. I care not if someone doesnt care for a trans, gay, etc, but when they say you can't have this, i wont take care of you, or actively push for laws to deny you rights is the problem. Thus determining whether this is someone who is simply having a different opinion versus actively trying to keep you down becomes very hard to differentiate.
To be honest to you .... God bless African Americans. What they have achieved after what the have been through, if they become more stronger, come together, trust me they can rule the world in everting.
PK Right. They sold their own people because they were typically given beer and rum, which, if you’re smart enough, was extremely addictive (more than it is nowadays). When you’re addicted to a substance you WILL do whatever it takes to get it. Do research.
Wow yeah learned a lot here. I’m not really a part of the lgbtq community and I’m not black but I fully support equality in its purest form and so I am always interested in broadening my perspective to these issues regardless of how difficult it is to discuss. One thing that really surprised me was the club dress code thing. I always wondered why that was because I like to dress in punk attire and sometimes I get asked to leave chains or something in my car and I always thought it was for safety reasons like they’re afraid I’m gonna choke someone in the mosh pit or something. Never would’ve realized it might be a race thing.
you are so intelligent that its actually inspiring, im bout to be a GSU freshman this fall and your knowledge really motivates me to learn a lot these 4 years
Idk in LA if there are two separate prose but I do know we have a hip pop section a main stage and a Latino, edm, stage. And this yeah the hip pop stage was outside instead of inside the festival 😒 I found it pretty interesting
i'm so confused on why people are upset about black pride or latino pride?? it's just a space for lgbt+ poc where they don't have to worry about racism. how is that bad
@@threefiddy2779 Well integrated spaces at least in the gay community have largely failed. They have also failed straight community too since white flight is still a thing.
@Deutsche comrade Wow, I've never met someone so opposite of my views. You are a ethno-nationalist. The truth is, no human being should have pride for their race. You had nothing to do with the accomplishments of your race, and there is absolutely no significant difference between the races. You want to know the biggest difference? White people are at higher risk for skin cancer and black people are at higher risk for heart disease. That's it. Some small genetic differences that affect very specific things. The best goal is to mix the cultures into one, I agree that creating divisions is dangerous, so we should try to assimilate cultures into each other. This doesn't mean that people can't bring parts of their culture over, that's part of the American way. For example, the Hamburger burger originated in the German city of Hamburg. But, German American immigrants eventually made it into the popular hamburger today. The German American immigrants perfectly assimilated with the rest of the nation, that's all the matters. We shouldn't have black, white, or gay pride anythings. Why? Because all of those things are things out of your control. Those aren't accomplishments, those are just descriptions. You didn't do anything by being white, black, or gay, it just happened. The only thing we should have collective pride for is nations, for now. It makes sense in a democratic nation as we do all collectively vote either on decisions or our representatives. On top of that, the decisions your nation makes has a direct effect on you, therefore you should be able to feel partial pride for its accomplishments if you have to bear its mistakes. But, other than that, we shouldn't really be celebrating any of this pride shit. TLDR: Blacks and Whites are the same fucking thing you stupid idiots. We're all homo sapiens, you think cats argue about their different fur colors, no, because it's fucking stupid.
I understand what your saying but at the end of the day at some point we have to stop thinking like that (we have to stop looking to be disappointed) because that does not help the situation. I see a lot of interracial couples doing well. If those white guys were not interested in you it's their loss.
@@chastonmarshall3427 There are potentially many reasons why Tarek may not get picked by a white guy, I'm sure it's not just cause the color of his skin.
I mean, I kinda get what you're saying. I see a lot of girls say stuff like "Wow darker skinned guys are SOOO hot!" and get praise and agreement for that. But if anyone ever says "I think lighter skinned people are hotter!", it's considered racist. I don't think having a preference to skin color automatically means you're racist. It's not really different than having a preference between favorite colors (like red, blue, green etc). The problem I guess, is telling _why_ they have the preferences they do. It might just be nothing more than personal taste, but it also might be subconscious racism.
I've stumbled upon your channel randomly and I am so impressed by the way you talk about things. As a foreigner I've always find it hard to truly understand some racial issues in western values/cultures. I love the way you've mentioned that it's hard to do comparisons but was able to draw up specific criteria for in depth discussion. I often hear people talk about "A will never understand B" or "C just has it worse than D". Although most of these statements are most likely true, it always felt like an overgeneralization that can result in more exclusion than inclusivity in conversations. Anyways thank you for the video - it's very enlightening
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THIS BREAK MY HEART THAT WE ARE SEPARATE
Because it doesn't fit the MSM narrative. The irony is that they don't give a rat's ass about ANYONE; their ratings thrive on division and chaos. That's why.
Mercedes Martinez what’s the intro song?
Joe Biden voted in favor of Segregating Blacks back in the 70s...Research it!
Kadence Caler whats the intro song
I’m so glad you spoke on womanism vs. feminism. My good friend I met in college told me she was a womanist and explained how black women are left out of the feminist movement. I never knew about it until she told me something!
I’ve never heard anyone use the term ‘intersectional feminism’ yet, that’s interesting
the only straight I am is a straight up bitch yeah I’m a womanist too...I’m not going to go with a new trendy modern term when the one that already existed made it clear already... More black women should be (if they are not already) a WOMANIST.
Y’all are so annoying with all those different movements and etiquettes, it’s only reinforcing division between people.
@@user-ek4yd7hx9l womanism was around wayyyy earlier and created to give black women of color a voice and support that they were NOT getting in the earlier movements of feminism all this newer extra b.s. are only because SOME people believe they should be included in everything and then make it more complicated by later adding more "non traditional" members I hate it too but atleast I know what came first and why and all the reasons why these different terms even exist
@@MellowTOB the Santana quote is amazing....
I felt invisible going to white pride and I had a white women tell me how they loved pale skin on a woman. I had white gay men tell me that they had a Black woman inside them as they then used Black vernacular. Or said microaggressive shit to me. I had a white lesbian and her friends come at me and my friends over a misunderstanding they had. We knew this one lesbian, Mary and my friend, whose a white trans man, made a joke to the Mary. Mary laughed and then this white woman near Mary started to berate my friend. As we kept telling her, "We know her. We joke like this." She continued to curse out my friend and got her friends to curse him out. Yhen when my other friend, Nick and I stepped in, she started to use her white women tears and tell us how we didn't know what it's like to be judged. "I'm in a little tiny town in Texas."
Nick: "You're talking to a gay Latino man, a Black Lesbian and a white trans guy. Please don't use that I struggle, shit."
And I miss Pride but I feel not as attacked with microaggressions when I go to Black Pride. I dont have people ask about my fucking hair and then try to touch it like I'm a pet.
@@Declan_Moriarty You're saying that being LGBT is toxic because we want to say we're here?
@ Veronica,,,,,Stand strong in your convictions honey ,,,,dont let ignorant people bring your day down like that oh helllllllll no!!!! Never let ANYONE, ANYWHERE , take away your SHINE ,,,you are whole , complete, and perfect just the way you are , period . Love and hugs from Arizona, ,=^..^=
I'm sorry that thoose people discriminated against you and hurt you. That sounds traumatic. Soon there will be a pride where all people can be proud of not only their sexuality and gender but also their race. I'm with you and I'll continue to fight for all Black people and I plan on making the LGBTQ+ community the safe space for all its supposed to be.
Micro aggressions?! 😂😂
White people did this or that was basically the entire meaning of that long drawn out comments. But doing so you sound just like the bigot your complaining about.
a message ALL WHITE GAYS NEED TO HEAR! 🗣
hello therr Yea it’s a message for all but if he wants to say something to his race I feel like it would be good for him to say this
no
TarantulaCandy your comment alone is why white gays need to listen to this video
Baylie Pederson how about white lesbians the same as gay community
Please...white gays could careless because these type issues don't affect them.
As someone who is white, I've always thought that coming out at black was harder. Because racism still exists in the LGBTQ+ community, which can suck because then you may also be alienated by a community that is supposed to love you? Especially if said person is trans and black. Back during the aids pandemic, trans people were horribly looked down upon. So that was almost a triple whammy back then. Pose really opened my eyes to this and it's broken my heart everytime I think about it.
Yea especially in the hood you Gon stay dl forevaa😕
I feel that as a black man from Philadelphia I've been out since I was 13 it has been 31 years since I've been out and I have not seen no change I want to tell it like a TI is I feel that as lgbtq that we need to stop the BS and come together and talk about these issues and start fighting for these instead of talking our skin color because that's the end of the day whatever's coming down the pipe is going to affect us all regular rather of our skin color or sexuality or rather what we do it will affect us because no matter how hard we fight against how we get the best jobs or how we get better education or better medical services we're all on this rock were fighting over resources that can be divided among Us it makes no sense for us to be against each other but then again how can we love God and then hate our brother to all you out there who might be spiritual how can you love and say that there is love and acceptance but yet you hate on each other we need to get it together and stop all the fakeness and start being real with each other.
Judge people by the content of their character not the color of their skin.
This is also problematic because it isn’t clearly defined and ignorant people and their opinions continue to divide
patrick wayne yeah like blm bit you arnt ready to have a mature conversation about that yet are you
@@thewildcardperson these people are crazy. There is no talking sense into them. There are no moderates left it seems
Brett very true man I’ve given up
Yas
the fact that pride came through the BLACK TRANS COMMUNITY and that there HAS TO BE such a thing as black pride SAYS IT ALLL
alexis deminati exactly! White people appropriate shit all the times but y’all still begging to be accepted from them ? 🤷🏾♀️
@Anthony Perez if you get the chance look up marsha p johnson
Anthony Perez wasn’t started by whites actually where police raids on black lgbt spaces . Black trans women were rioting.
@@bak3456 exactly! I say that to people all the time
alexis deminati
I didn’t know. So we have that credit too?
Learned a lot from this video but I just hate how there is a divide within the gay community we're all fighting to be treated with respect yet we can't treat each other with respect 😑
Stephen Magee gay or straight, there will always be a color issue
@Dizzle Are there racist white gay men? Sure. Is every black or latino man kind and open to every race? Hell no. You painting an entire race with a wide brush is so childish.
www.globalresearch.ca/the-dumbing-down-of-america-by-design/5395928
Being transGENDER doesn't only equate to being gay. Wtf? PEOPLE NEED TO WAKE UP!!!! Race will always be an issue because of brainwashing, old, racist, white patriarchy/$upremacy.
That’s y’all fault
Dizzle no we not finna do this. Sorry you don’t speak for the entire race on this one. Of course white peoples have oppressed POC but there are racist in every race. Don’t act like it’s just white people because it’s not. Yes it’s a vast majority but a lot of these white people stand for us. Let’s say it all together now RACIST COME IN ALL RACES.
I really hate small minded people who discriminate people out of their own race, like come on. We all pee the same color
The way you ended this comment 😂
this is the best comment ever....
Well said
This comment gonna make someone chug water like there's no tomorrow
Yeah! Red
I'm 55 years old and one thing I've noticed is that black culture is routinely adopted (especially in recent years) commercially and it becomes pop culture; but it began in black culture. Black people are cool and we do it like nobody else. And now, we're seeing it in mainstream media. So I just wanted to add that bit of a perspective, because it's really an indicator of the progress that people of color have made into mainstream culture.
That sounds good, but I don't see the progress in that because they've been mainstreaming our culture since slavery(Blackface in Vaudeville and more).
Paul Tacoma. and that's the problem with the Black Community "we do it like Nobody else" NO bitch, all ethnicity groups have exceptional talent. there is struggle in every minority. Black people LOVE to complaint about inclusiveness yet they are the first to try to segregate themselves with asshole comments like "we do it like nobody else"
TarantulaCandy nobody’s saying other races are talentless etc. but u would be blind to not see that a lot of trends that are popular these days are things that originated in the black community. Facts are facts.
Black ppl are homophobic and I am black
I don't see the gentrification and commodification of marginal culture by the mainstream as a form of real progress. Imo, it's just an acceptance of oppressed culture that would challenge the status quo, whitewashed to keep the same regimes in place -- better looking regimes, sure, but still as oppressive.
Most people want to exist with each other with no tension. The media will try to make the environment something it’s not!
Give this man a cigar!
The media is highlighting the ills of racism..dont attack the messenger!
TearsForFears Yes and you have to be careful of bias. Which causes tension. We have known the ills for decades. Let’s get to the solution. Pissing people off is not it. That’s the point.
Totally agreed. No one cares if you’re gay or trans as long as you act like a somewhat normal and good person. Supporting our President on the other hand - comes with the risks of being physically assaulted, losing your job, or doxxed. Sad world we live in.
TearsForFears
This country is so racist that people have to fake hate crimes because they don’t actually happen often at all. Come on, wake up. The media is trying to push a race war.
I'm a straight black woman, but I subbed because I appreciate your voice and your perspective. 🙏🏽
TeeKayXD same!!!
moi aussi !
Same here
Same here
nobody cares about what you are
Very enlightening. This has given me plenty to think about. I'm 76/white/gay, and I appreciate how clearly you addressed the topic. I am constantly assessing my prejudices in an attempt to rid myself of irrational thinking about people I don't know. It's not easy. I walked into a gay club in LA many years ago and discovered I was in a "black club". When I walked through the door it seemed (incorrectly) that the music stopped and all eyes turned toward me... the only white guy. I was afraid. I had to make a choice to either turn around and leave, or go to the bar and order a drink. I ordered a drink. The bartender was very nice, but I felt out of my comfort zone. I have never again been in the position of being the only white guy in the room, but I am aware that black people are in that situation frequently. I've seen it, and I want to reach out to help, but how does one approach a stranger and say "how can I help make you comfortable?" (That actually sounds like a pretty good pick-up line, lol.) I'm an old man now. Talk about being invisible in a night club. I haven't been clubbing in many years, for 3 reasons: 1.) I don't pick up strangers (anymore) but boy do I have stories.) 2.) Nobody talks to old men in a gay club. 3.) Sitting alone watching young people have fun makes me look and feel "pervy". I'm banished to the fringes of gaydom...the trash bin of gay founding fathers. But I'm proud that my generation made many strides toward gay rights. I hope your generation will find a way to unite us. Thanks for the excellent video.
Maybe that is a good start. how does one approach a stranger and say "how can I help make you comfortable?" Start there. There are so many free books at the library like Stamped from the Beginning, Nice Racism, and Mediocre that can teach you how to have a more thoughtful dialogue with people, as people, and acknowledge you see them as they are.
The topics u speak on are amazing and very much needed thank you
I'm not from the LGBT community but I love to listen to your channel because I feel more educated about the community. I want to have kids and he/she will maybe be gay and I think it is important for me to educate myself. Thank you for that :)
@Cha Ndo Mav - Oh my goodness!! We seriously need more people like you as parents. I volunteer with youth groups and it's sad how many Black and Brown kids are out on the streets or even resorting to suicide because their families treated them like garbage for being gay. We have to embrace our babies and love them even more when they're viewed as "different." Your comment truly touched my heart.
Very smart and proactive as a potential patent Kudos to you
wow your children will have a great and accepting parent!!!!
The fact u want a gay kid is sad
@@hhTHEBOSSANATERh it's so she can prop them up. She doesn't want to just be happy she had a child, she wants to use the kid being gay as a way to virtue signal. Using your child as a means to prop up yourself is the first sign of a horrible parent.
"Until the color of a man's skin is of no more significance than the color of his eyes; we have to have war" - bob marley
Right, so there should be no "(insert skin color) pride", since color shouldn't matter.
@@kyleduddleston4123 sounds about right
@24 SadSongs So you do want to treat people differently based on the color of their skin?
@24 SadSongs The thing is, institutional racism may exist in certain areas, but all of those institutions are controlled by the leftist communist politicians and elites. The police are not racist savages hunting down black men. That narrative has been throughly disproven. Blind and handicapped actually have something physically holding them back and needs aids to compensate. Minorities are more privileged these days than a straight white man who knows he's a man.
@@kyleduddleston4123 I'm curious, what privileges do minorities have over straight, white men nowadays?
I'm a straight black man...Im fucking glad to say I learned something new from this video and I did my own research outside of this and I must say I'm happy I learned more thank you also you got a straight dude on here that actually payed and attention, listened and learned preach it up ✌️
What a troll
This very much needed to be said! I remember when I first came out and started talking to guys and there was this white guy who asked me "How was it growing up in a black house hold, I bet it was so crazy". It felt so weird to be asked, like I was his research experiment.
Yeah and it’s apparent how their completely unaware of our experiences and to have these misconceptions as well is very off putting.
@@adriansewell3560 Exactly! Its like, I'm attracted to men of all colors but the cultural differences make it hard to connect sometimes.
Cedric I feel as though most men of color are often coming into this community of open mindedness that white men don’t have to us and that stems to their own cultural barriers they have against us...
@@adriansewell3560 That pretty much sums up how I felt after coming out.
So, let me get this straight... You criticize white people for not understanding your struggles, and when a white person directly comes to you to ask about your experience in order to alleviate his ignorance, you say it's weird and off-putting...
You are part of the problem.
I never knew there was segregation in the lgbtq community.
Same. This was an eye opener.
@GoodGuy Stalin I mean kinda, depends on what you consider segregation.
I didn’t either because every pride I’ve been to has been full of all sorts of different people and race never seemed to be on anyone’s mind.
@GoodGuy Stalin for instance there are certain populations of the gay community who like the company of their own race more than other because of the similarities in their experiences. This, while in the minority, is something that happens somewhat frequently. This causes groups of either race to be formed which is what some people consider segregation.
GoodGuy Stalin
Exactly! I’ve never heard of Pride segregation. I’ve been to Salt Lake City’s Pride Center many times and there were all races who went there. Pride is about equality! Specifically with sexual orientation. If any of you are bringing race into this then you do not stand for Pride. It’s about EQUALITY! So anyone who believes or wants segregation in the Pride community, well they just don’t deserve to stand for Pride then. Like I said though, I’ve NEVER heard of this. It must be in certain locations.
This video is incredible. Thank you for doing the work you do and making us white gays face our discomfort with the conversation head on. The LGBTQ movement needs to remember that there's no LGBTQ equality without also having equality for black people, people of colour, disabled people and so on, because our community includes all of that.
I don’t think people should be split up pride is loving everyone so races should be together
That's not pride, try again.
MetaKnight964 What is pride to you?
@@MetaKnight964 ugly
Sophia Is Strange the definition of pride is a feeling or deep pleasure or satisfaction derived of one’s own achievements. It’s just about feeling proud of who you are and where you come from. For example: He takes great pride in his appearance. It does not have anything to do with loving other people. If anything, if somebody has too much pride, it’s considered just being selfish. The only thing more dangerous than the enemy is pride.
Did you watch the whole video where he explained why those spaces were created?
Damn your telling me there are gay racist. Imma need yall to pick a struggle.
Ded 😂
L m a o
Lol have u never been on Grindr? “Whites Only” “No blacks sorry” “white guys to the front” it’s ALL on there. Just cause ur gay doesn’t mean u can’t be a hardcore racist too.
LOL but there are
Lol
Idk why I clicked on this, I’m not gay, I’m not black, I’m not white lol
Same here😂
Alex H How?
Alex H no we aren’t, white ppl weren’t even supposed to be a race, it’s the other way around 💖
Alex H what... white people were never oppressed
Right
I am not proud of my color nor ashamed. I had nothing to do with it.
Love my brown skin and i wont talk nothing about it cause at the end of the day its just a skin nothing changes about you
i’m not ashamed to be white
@Blossom I love my white skin but I also like brown ladies skin.
I wish I was mixed 😕
Jesus Freak mutt
got sent here from someone expressing why they’re not going to pride. thank you for enlightening me and i’m sure many others and i will 100% be taking this into consideration when deciding on going to pride. i really appreciate you taking your time to describe this to others
I didn’t even know there was a black pride😅and I’m black
I definitely get why there’s a divide, but I don’t want it to continue. We as human beings need to work to overcome the divide, but that also means the other side( the white side) actually needs to take the time to listen😒
esaesa07 right! I’m not going to dilute my culture and who I am so that I can mingle with whites plus I can’t be myself when around them we different
African Proud well said 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
African Proud I didn’t say we need to dilute our culture. That’s the point. All cultures need to be accepted at pride. But division is not the answer. At least not forever. I have friends from all races and I’m not trying to separate myself from them.
And ofc we shouldn’t haven’t to assimilate to white culture. I’m not gonna give up parts of myself to belong.
spittu89 good to know, if I ever live in Atlanta
For the same reason the heterosexual community is segregated! White gay folks come from those same racist communities, escaping homosexual oppression! The thing is, for them, they’ve held on to those conscious and subconscious racist beliefs!
they are not subconscious beliefs all the time.
John Ward f u. Your the racist for spewing that crap. My mother it white and father black. I am not a racist....but you r
John, You're On The Money...
Brittany Jones exactly, I corrected my post!
marc pignitor btw, I never said you were a racist!!!
I'll tell you why people are divided. People are divided because everyone keeps lumping themselves into groups and attacking other groups, instead of existing as an individual. This tribalism has got to stop. Tribes fight, and thats exactly what is going on right now, albeit in internet form.
Turf wars lmao
Also its human nature to find your own group, thats why racism exist and is pretty much impossible to get rid of. Racists are people who are way to into their own group that they dont care about the other groups. We all fit into one group tho, humans, even if we were all identical, we would still find ways to go into separate groups. It would be awesome if humans werent like that and put their differences aside and work together but no. We are stuck being a civilization that separates each other and sometimes hate each other. Societys just messed up man
Medrayonaise why can’t we make our group Americans instead of ethnicity or race or gender
Amen. Don’t underestimate those who are in power (I’m not talking about puppet politicians) though, they are the forces responsible for our division and since people are inherently sheepish, they haven’t had a difficult time dividing us.
I'm not fighting anyone. What everyone should have pride in their nationality and where they come from. It's not a fucking problem to be proud of who you are.
Growing up the way I did, I was always scared of my sexuality. I was raised by a psychopath who, among other things, was a terrible racist/sexist. I never really felt comfortable even looking into what it meant to be bisexual and what the LGBTQ+ community was about. Now that I'm free and coming out of my shell, I'm happy to see that there are so many resources regarding all the different members of the community. I'm disappointed to hear that there is segregation here but I'm grateful for your explanation. I hope that this can end in our lifetime. Stay strong and thank you for your videos.
Its harder to come out and there is more risk when youre black or latino because machismo and conservative religion is deeply imbedded into us.
Which is why many of us choose not to come out.
I agree and I hope one day it is not a problem anymore.
Stfu
R Y it’s not that easy. Sometimes bad things happen to those people in those communities because of those beliefs.
Foolish to say it's harder for a certain race, sex, to come out over another race. That was a racist comment. Every individual has their own struggle, and their own victories.
Thank you Tarek. It is people like you that makes me feel so proud to be a black gay man. Watching your videos gives me faith that is young black people like you that will help make the world a better place for our children. ❤️
Like if you guys agree.
Oh boi dis was in 2019
Right ;-; I came here thinking this was all in 2020
Oh boi dis was yesterday
I was so confused, because NYC pride was canceled cause of the coronavirus
Yeah i just got a recommendation for this
Lol - I had to do a double-take when I read yr comment. I totally missed that...
Having never heard the term before, I goggled "womanist movement" and fricking google tried to "correct" it to "feminist" *smh*
See this is interesting to me because I'm black and never once owned Jordan's, AF1s, Tim's, never had a chain (except dog tags), etc. Never been a big rap fan either. I grew up on metal, classical, and now I'm big on EDM and can usually go along with whatever's top 40
Am I not "black" then? Despite the melanin? What am I?
Edit: Ah, "skinfolk" is what I am. I see. Good to know I'm not "black enough" for the black community. I would have thought things would have changed over the past 10 years. I guess I'll ask again in 2030.
Commenting before I watch because fuck it: I grew up the same way. Our individuality is apart of our black boy joy/black girl magic in my opinion. I hate how people try to minimize who we are based on our interests etc. There's no proper way to "act" a certain race
We, black folks, are not monothlic
I'm from Southern Cali which is hella different from folks in the bay area😆. However, those black folks up there are hella different from folks in Texas, Georgia, Atlanta, Detroit etc...folks need to realize that within our ethnic group there are different cultures as well
Hey! Wanna hang out? I have always had a difficult time finding folks in our community that has some things like that in common. Freakin LOVE Classical and really intricate Metal music. Mastadon, Deftones.
music is music . I’m from da east side of atlanta so yeah ik gucci mane nn future songs word for word, but i also throw on Chop Suey, Creep, Various PTV songs, Red Hot Chili peppers, pearl jam, etc. And idc who in the car, if i’m driving you might hear a Thug song den a lil peep song den fuck around and throw on Green Day cuz i’m just in the mood. My niggas talk shit, but never no disrespect fr cuz they know the person i am. I like anime too and listen to piano arrangements of a lot of dif songs. If you black you black, some of us just have dif experiences and tastes.
Same, I like rock and roll and have a “valley girl” accent. My black card has been revoked many times😭😭😂😂
FINALLY A TOPIC THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED!!!🙌🏾👏🏾
But on a serious note I feel as if a lot of white people won’t understand this because a lot of white people don’t see the privilege that their skin holds. They don’t go through our experiences so they’re desensitized. They don’t get followed in high end clothing stores, cops don’t pull them over because they “looked a bit lost.” So because they don’t go through these things they won’t understand the fact that we know the look, and that look is so damn uncomfortable. I’d also like to add that they don’t know how lonely it feels when they’re the only person who looks like them in a space. Until our comfortability is respected and steps are taken to ensure that, your safe spaces will never be our safe spaces. So rest assured that we will make our own.
we need to stop looking for acceptance from white people, I don't care what they think and never will as long as it does not affect my daily life why should I
Bak 345 The thing is, as much as we want to deny it, it does effect our daily lives. We live in America. You see what they’re doing to us. You see how many innocent black lives are lost. Why act like that shit isn’t happening?
Sis don't give them the benefit of the doubt, they're not stupid
@DA BIG D DA BIG D it's called proximity crime. Black American People are not inherently violent. History is their witness. The geographical segregation and redlining makes it so that people will always interact, most times than not with folks of the Same ethnicity.
It's baffle me that in 2019, people still brings such fallacy. Besides there are entire not for profit groups in cities affected by crime and violence who work hard to prevent and protect their communities on their own dime. With very little to no support or media exposure.
Let's NOT.
@@bak3456 You're exactly right! We don't need their approval to exist.
This is such an informative video. I honestly didn't know that there was a divide between Black Pride vs White Pride in the gay community. I'm Latina so I've experienced some racism and prejudice from both Mexicans and White people it's such a weird thing. Thank you for sharing this.
“It’s bigger than black and white, it’s a problem wit the whole way of life.”
Did you get that form lil baby-the bigger picture
honestly !! who’s trans now days
Yeah they must have
@@err7273 i am lmao
Society is not made to suite the human spirit
It's so true my lesbian friend who is a black woman said she faced more racism in LGBTQ+ spaces than traveling to a place like Alabama.
Honestly 'White Pride' sounds wrong to me, like when you hear it I don't think about gay pride, I think about Nazi Germany
Honestly I would rather celebrate pride with everyone and I don't see anything wrong with smaller communities having their own on the side
that’s because “white” has been used to oppress and harm people since its creation. People dont have an issue with scottish pride or french pride because its a (white) heritage with culture. “White” pride is an amalgamation of all those cultures and just used to oppress. Thats why white pride celebrates nothing but their skin color and their “superiority”.
dskmb3 And we want you all to treat non whites like human beings.
dskmb3 YIKES
@@wuzittooya No need to be racist; no need to exclude groups when talking about who should be treated as human. Pretty much everybody, wants ALL people to be treated as human. Dskmb3 just wants to stop being attacked because of the color of their skin. Treating people like sub-human is terrible, thankfully "western-culture" has been doing some serious work, and the majority of the world's current slaves are owned by "non-whites".
because there is no such thing as white pride.. you can have german, oirish, polishj, english, etc pride. but white pride isnt a thing.
It is important for black same gender loving communities to have their own spaces. We have to realize that the only marginalized thing we have in common with white gays is sexuality and even that it is approached differently.
Dude shit the hell up your not the mouthpiece for all gay black people. Actually you're more wrong than anything. Most people that belongs to the lgbtq community. Know how it feels to be treated unfairly. So they normally don't draw lines between people. You stay over there your this color. Not something normally a gay etc person acts like. That's the problem with people. They want to say black or white white people this. Just let people be people. There actually not that much that's different besides the color of skin. We all are humans we all pee poop bleed we love we hate we do everything the same. If you want change stop being the problem. Stop labeling them by there skin tone.
Naw we good. If we felt welcomed at pride we would not have to create our own. We are gay but not monolithic and until you understand that, be quiet.
@@jjbentley9 yeah white gays know what it feel like to be discriminated for who they are but have no problem doing the same thing to other gay people. My brother is gay and when he said that white gays are white first made me understand why Black gays have their own pride.
@@chykolaethai we don't need to separate black gay people from who gay people that's not what the LGBTQ community is about.
Very true.
I didn’t know there was different prides, I thought we was all just proud and vibing together
Yeah, but sadly guys like this have to make it more than what it is and segregate opinions to races.
My brother attended a pride event when confederate flags were also on display.
Oh no... there’s definitely a difference. Homosexuality does not delete racism unfortunately
It’s like there’s churches and then there’s black and Asian, Hispanic, and Russian churches. Schisms happen in all kinda of communities over small differences.
@@ebonih7138 😮😮😮😭😮 bless your heart I hope you didn't get hurt out there 🙏🏽
I think a lot folks really forgot "treat others as you would like to be treated" Judge not lest you be judged...and if ya gonna judge...judge on character...not race !
Pride is about coming out as gay or lesbian and not being a ashamed. Black, White, Latino. Because each culture is different and there is still a race problem.
it’s weird that UA-cam recommends this almost a year later.
They are perpetuating division and drama
your mom its cause its pride month
This just proves UA-cam's algorithms are biased would you ever see a video section for conservative media?
Makes sense in the timing of recent protests.
・Sunshine Milkshake・ he said a year LATER not every year.
“I want this to be a safe space, Asian Hispanic everyone!” My heart melted thx! I was thinking you were only saying white vs. black not Hispanics😭👏🏽😉
I wish there was no vs why cant we love each other fuck its a fucked up world i wish we just stop being like this and just get together and love each other
I was just thinking about this topic myself! Specifically, I was analyzing how there were so many films centering on lesbians that are white or anything other than black. There are a few movies out there centering on black lesbians, but the only one I’ve seen that was noteworthy was, “Pariah”. That alone sheds light on a difference in history, because even though black lesbians have experiences that can be cinematic as well, many of our productions are limited to things like UA-cam webseries instead of Netflix or film (not that UA-cam isn’t a great platform, but of course a different audience can be tapped into when using film to portray a story). I’m glad you mentioned Pose, bc it’s a major step for that specific community and the Black LGBT community as a whole. However, there is still a long way to go for black women and our representation on bigger platforms. Pose is a dope production and I think it’s so crucial that our stories are being told and even though Ik it’s not all true, there is a realism to it and that’s why I enjoy watching it as a queer woman. I support my people and I’m always ready to be amazed by what we will do next. Going back to main topic though, the divide is all too real. Being a white lesbian and being a black lesbian are not the same and might not ever be the same because of that cultural and historical gap.
Whew this is a tough convo, but you’re hitting these points honey.
The amazing show Pose on Netflix introduced to me segregation within the LGBT community and I was so shocked and saddened. Thank you for speaking on this topic because I was curious and wanted to know more on the “why” of this happening.
same for me. as a white person i was completely unaware of the racist history of the lgbt community but pose made me so much more appreciative of what not just trans women have done but specifically black trans women. honestly they need more recognition. and i DONT mean rupauls dragrace 🙄 but thats a different topic LMAO
@Naomi N.
Don’t feel bad. After all, black people are the most homophobic.
@@missioncontrol4662 hmmmmm idk if i believe that lol. but mostly bc ive only ever personally been opporessed by the government and white Christians
Naomi N. Oh no, I’m sorry to hear that. What did the government do to you?
@@missioncontrol4662 But black people can be LGBTQ+ so show sympathy for those who are.
I've made a point as a gay white man of calling out racism when I hear it. I've eliminated friends and stepped up to welcome others and show support. I do it because it's right, not because I feel I'm woke. I also question myself now when I have to which doesn't include censoring myself, but I think before I speak. I also don't tolerate ageism in the gay community, another serious problem. My real friends are based on shared feelings and interests, and if we laugh at each other's jokes, that's another great way to determine what real friendship is regardless of race or age or gender or any other difference.
I love everyone!!! Pride shouldn’t be something to celebrate apart, should be something we celebrate together
It shouldn’t even be celebrated
@@alexafontanez9153 awwuh did your same sex partner leave you? Are you hurt lil one? It's okay we still welcome you lmao
We burned so many flags 🥰
Should be a day, not a month heheh
Unity is very important, however, lets be real. In many a gay community there's a lot of division for all sorts of stupid reasons. For example, when I came out as bisexual (and later more accurately pansexual) back in the late 90's early 2000's I was in no way shape or form accepted or welcomed by the majority of the gay community in my city. I was considered a straight girl or curious because I'm not butch or gold star. The gay bars were also mostly segregated with a few mainly white bars and a few Black bars only mixing a little. Time to put all that shit to bed. That being said, due to the sad fact that manu Black people are dealing with so much trauma due to systemic racism and oppression, it is sometimes necessary to have Black only spaces... so if you're not Black you don't get to have an opinion on that aspect.
I’m black and didn’t know we had a separate pride, really educational video
mee too
Separate but equal am I right?
Me neither!
Me either
did you attend pride? ☺️
That part when you spoke about cornrows very briefly, you're right. Cornrows weren't accepted until the movie 10 came out and the white main character bo was wearing cornrows then all of a sudden it was cool and accept. Then people were calling them "Bo braids" and like jesus christ.
4:44 you right my sister just came and I know it’s because she was afraid of what the family would think. I told her it doesn’t matter what she into as long as she safe and has a healthy relationship I’m always gonna love her she my sister!!!
That’s sweet
UA-cam recommended your channel to me and I am very glad I clicked on this video. I have always known the gay male community was racist. From the age of 18 until now, in my early 50s, I have been confronted by and deeply disappointed by the rampant racism in the gay male community. The entire video was on point. But where you fully got me was the issue of "preference". I live in Straightville Connecticut and somewhat rely on Grindr to find other gay men, not necessarily for sex but more for nonsexual companionship. I am tired of hanging out at bars and restaurants with only straight people. I want to have a conversation during which I can fully be myself.
Unfortunately, this is where the issue of preference and racism collide and it all turns to shit. On Grindr, I have been rejected, sometimes rather harshly, for being black (as if the profile picture didn't tell you so in the first place), for not having a gym-toned, six-pack stomach, for being "old", for being black and not having the "stereotypical monster dick of death" to go with the skin tone, for not being "masculine" enough (how much is enough by the way?). All these start out as "preferences" and slide into racism pretty fast. Even from other black and Spanish-speaking gay men.
It's hard to find common ground when, as Tarek said, you are being told that you are not good enough. I am opting out of Grindr for a while starting now. My sense of self cannot take the beating anymore. I don't see where the divide will be healed within the community. I really don't. I would rather we keep having "regular" pride and Black Pride events separately. Black gay men need a space where they can feel truly emotionally safe, and unfortunately, it's not within the encompassing white America and white gay male community. Racism is the original sin of the United States. This country was built from its very beginnings on the backs of slave labor and only white people benefitted. Look at the drinking water situation in Flint, Michigan. Look at what's happening with the brown babies and children at The Southern Border in Texas? It's a crying shame and yes, I have cried and I am still crying over everything that has happened to these people since Trump came into office.
The reality is this: If that were white babies taken from their white parents being fed rancid food, housed in cages, with no real beds or warm blankets and left to sit around in soiled diapers, White America would have revolted and that shit would have been fixed, people would be going to jail, lawsuits would have been filed -- all before 10 am the next morning. The racism in every demographic is very real and the only time change will happen is when white America decides to change things because whatever it has now affected them in an intimate and compellingly painful manner. In the 1980s and 1990s, crack cocaine was the scourge of the urban centers of America. And it greatly affected black and brown people. What was the reaction from White America? "These people are animals. They are disgusting. We should lock them up and throw away the key. They should go straight to jail and not to rehab. Rehab is too good for them." Fast forward to the 2000s. There's an opioid epidemic ravaging the suburban and small town communities in America and it's affecting mostly white people. They are dying at an alarming rate --- just like the crack cocaine epidemic. What's the reaction? "These are innocent victims. They need help. We need more rehab centers and more rehab beds. We have to treat them with empathy and kindness."
In terms of of the topic at hand, "Preferences" will go away when people start using "preferences against white gay men. Racism will start to become a thing of the past when major reverse racism -- real reverse racism-- starts to hit white America and they start feeling the pain that everyone else has been feeling for centuries. Until then, good luck with that.
CTMan2018
Wish you were running for president with that perspective...would you at least consider local office?
Wow you hit that on the head "CTMan" and where you really opened my eyes as I saw it was the crack & opioid epidemics it happens just as you explained it perfectly. thank you for sharing that.
Usually people who talk such noble words are sitting at the house doing absolutely nothing; you see-- it's just like those celebrities who taken their time with the same type of lectures. But we find out how hypocritical they really are. Waiting for the one true God to end it all and ask people to repent their sins onto him and all this nonsensical fighting to an end.
You literally just racially and sexually singled out a group and judged them all based on the actions of some, who is racist again?
@@mr.awesome7552 you know; irony is they do the same; so tell me the true definition of racism. Fact is you have people weaponize such words for their own ends enough it doesn't mean anything. Frankly I'm tired of it. Did you know the rainbow didnt belong to the LBGT?? But in genesis of the bible was a promise between god and Noah that he wont flood the earth after seeing constant sins of man? When does race have anything to do with sexuality or sin. We are one human kind. Btw I'm black, its messed up buddy we cant have a normal conversation without people jumping to conclusions ect.
All in all I'm tired of this mess.
How about just being proud of being a good person? Putting labels on each other divides us.
Agreed.
Exactly, to say that "This group is this or that" "This other group is this or that" Is what divides people in the first place. Everybody deserves respect, we are all human and we don't need to put labels on that. We shouldn't call someone as "This is a transgender person" We just say "This is a person"
Gay people think they should be more open minded I guess. They're just like everybody else except they're gay.
Deutsche comrade the irony is you sound like a republican
Thank you!
I really just wanted to see what the white gays in the comments had to say but they seem to have left the chat🤦🏽♀️
we're here ! we recognize our privilege and want to use it to lift poc up. also i dont agree with having a 'white pride' lol thats like straight pride 🤢
@Dizzle the reply below u lol.
@@sy-zu4uz u got something to say?
Dizzle please stop generalizing. A lot of us aren’t racist and would like to help, but that can’t happen if both sides don’t let their guard down. I understand the problems within the community, but we can’t have a discussion like that.
human rat I agree, some people are crazy
It gives me hope to think that one day, people will look back on our time and wonder why we couldn't figure out peace between cultures and races.
and the space between our ears. *sigh*
fun fact people will always hate each other for some reason the world you want is impossible
@@tcysydyxbc5159 Maybe, but only maybe.
@@tcysydyxbc5159 Not when we merge with AI
@@aurora9252 honestly, i think that would be best.
I love when you discussing these issues because you always speak from a knowledgeable and factual place. Giving a very clear understanding of the topic at hand. You don't put one side down but you speak truth and positivity on black issues and i respect and love that. i wish there were more people like you whom give both side a chance. i wish i had heard about black pride a long time ago cause i would be there ever year. Thank you Tarek i hope i get a chance to meet you a pride this year.
Sure people can say "It's just a preference", but they need to remember that there are a LOOOOT of people who "PREFER" the world without the LGBTQ+ community in it. let that sink in.
There’s a difference between not wanting someone in the world or not wanting to sleep with that someone.
@@RuffyLiebtNami There is a difference, but they are both forms of discrimination. Particularly when it involves excluding entire races and subcultures as opposed to one person from said groups.
Honestly I wish more people would think of it like this in this sense. Like sure you won't be attracted to everyone but still excluding a whole racial group is way too excessive.
@@DeverusSlays That is true, both are forms of discrimination. You know what else is discrimination? Liking bacon and not liking carrots. People are attracted to who they are attracted to. Isn't that the entire POINT of the LGBT community? Freedom to love who you choose? If a gay dude only dates dudes, THAT is discrimination. If you are saying that all discrimination is bad, then you are insane, and anti-LGBT. When it comes to ethnicities, people are naturally more attracted to people who like similar to them, and you need to be attracted to your partner for a relationship to work. Now if you refuse to date outside your race due to bigotry, or even refuse to consider the option, then you have a problem, but don't shame people for being attracted to whomever they feel attraction for.
Watching this in 2020 I’m a little shaken by how this Pride month has changed from last year. It has been a rollercoaster with the pandemic and the police violence and demonstrations. I do think that the silver lining has been that the conversation about race and systematic racism and racism in the gay community has been happening more in general. I think for gay people, and especially for white gay people (speaking as a white gay male) it’s important for us to understand that we are all a product of a racist culture. If you are white your experience of that racist culture has likely given you a false sense of entitlement wether you know it or not. We carry that baggage with us no matter where we go until we learn to look for it in ourselves and discard it. As a white person I used to get very defensive and uncomfortable in discussions about race and privilege, but now I think it’s really helpful to examine where that defensiveness is coming from and looking there to make a change and shed some of that baggage. Anyway great video and Happy Prides!
You’ve been indoctrinated pretty well lol
Hey Mattpipes!! Thank you!
This truly helps.❤
This pride month was MESSY
It's god damn tragic
yep
Nobody really pays any attention to pride month, it kinda just goes over most people’s heads cause most don’t even know there is a pride month
Broken & Broke who doesn’t know? If a person is online at all, they know it’s pride
@@idontevenknowanymore111 I don't celebrate it because I'm not apart of the community LOL. I support it but that's that
If you demonize other groups for having a pride that you don’t like then you are no better than what you believe they might be.
@Erich Addler
Regular white people especially the poor and middle class have nothing to feel bad about. Most Europeans came to America poor as dirt and starving. They signed indentured contracts and worked slave labour
@@americancoushatta974 the main groups at fault for the Atlantic slave trade are the Portuguese, Spanish, and African Kings who sold their own people to anyone who would buy them. I think statistically, British descended whites bought less than 2% of the slaves brought to the new world
@@MajesticSkywhale
The 1st slaves in America were Europeans from countries like Ireland, Scottland, Wales and more Native Americans were exported from America than Africans actually brought in. African slaves were expensive while slaves from European countries were way cheaper and easier to kidnap.
Corona Virus: yes exactly
I’m out to most my family and I am white. My girlfriend is black and she cant tell her family till she graduates and leaves the house. It’s scary because the thought that she would get kicked out her house for being bi sexual. She’s means the world to me and she has support from my family and friends
The color of your skin is irrelevant. Her parents raised her differently than you. Some white people in the lgbt community also have trouble coming out because their parents wouldn’t support them.
i don’t think race has anything to do with it because wouldn’t her family be the same race as her…?
GoodGuy Stalin if only this worked
Her family have some sense, she sleeping with her enemy.
Sometimes parents are in the closet their Reasons i don't know
This was such a great topic!! You didn’t hold back at all👏🏾👏🏾
Why does this have so many dislikes bruh y’all are sensitive
Lala Styles Because it’s a bunch of left-winged crap that is making up problems that don’t exist to keep people divided.
Happily Secular Shut up and don’t speak on things you know nothing about.
The reason I disliked it is because I am against all collectivism. And this video and the ideas in it are deeply collectivist. I don’t like how the justification for many pride movements is the fact that their ‘group’ was oppressed. It is a dangerous thing to ascribe an important virtue like pride to what imaginary group you believe you belong to. And even worse to legitimize it based on whether or not your group was oppressed.
@@happilysecular2323 Anything that you don't understand is "left-wing" 🤣
Kam More Aww, I made another leftie cry
While we're on the topic of pride, can we talk about how people are petitioning for a "straight pride"? 🙄
A.J let’s not entertain that foolery
Apparently it’s actually been approved.
@@sAMiAm1 For real ? (Love your Huey icôn)
Nancy M Yeah but hardly anyone showed up & thanks.
@@sAMiAm1 Thank God
Weird that they'd ban rap, but rap isn't a genre. Rap isn't hip hop. They're separate things. So the DJ's could still play hip hop and still be following the rules.
Wwwwhat? do you know what your saying who did you hear that from lol
Slomofogo who tf asked
Wait!!! There’s a Black Pride and Black Gay Pride. Let’s not forget!
Black Pride is in August - NYC!
Hi. Do you know what date and where?
When? Where? Please I must knowwww
Thank you Tarek, This is my very first time watching and listening to a gay man of color. I wanted to come to listen to what you had to say and thank God I did! I understand so much now. My life will be lived in honor of ALL people! Thank you again
Random conservative here. Trying to represent and let others know we don't hate. We accept other cultures and we love what America is supposed to stand for. Ultimate freedom and Liberty and justice for all.
People most of the time just see the radical right and they don’t understand that a lot of conservatives are actually decent people. Same goes with liberals.
@@hallefritos9116 I think the issue though, comes when it's left to politics. If you are conservative, chances are that you're gonna vote red in any given election due to the fact that they will represent your views more. So just because y'all may be "good" people, the people who y'all elect are not. They more often than not are voting for things that discriminate/ further marginalize minorities. If you vote for someone who does that, then it doesn't matter what you're personal beliefs and views are because you voted for someone who has those views to represent you so by default, you share the same ideas and beliefs.
For example just recently look at the Trump administration making it okay for Trans people to be legally discriminated in health care. Look at how they try to stop LGBTQ+ members from adopting. These are just 2 examples, the list of discriminatory actions could go on. If you're conservative and voted for Trump / will vote for him again or any politician who shares those beliefs, then y'all aint "good" people because you don't mind/ think about the implications your vote has.
Angel Bravo This is very untrue. Think about the Democratic Party and who’s led it through the years...the “bad” is just politics in general. The Democratic Party is the true party of division and racism. Learn your history. KKK, keeping AA culture down through “helpful programs” that keep them down, etc. It’s sad how most people honestly believe the Democratic Party is the party for AAs. It’s not and never has been. They just want the votes. Republicans haven’t had any policy that’s held AAs back...same with LGBTQ...but the media promotes this for votes, sadly. 💗
Carried Away racism wasn’t made by one party. This is a tired argument. Study civil rights era and you’ll then know where the kkk went. It’s no mystery the majority of overt racists defected as to the Conservative party as to conserve their racist values. As that’s what conservatism is. Conserving traditional values over inevitable progress. Aka change. Not saying conservatives are racist. No, I’m saying those with the notion to conserve traditional values are sometimes racist since racism is a traditional value here in America. Think about it, overt racist align republican and why?
@@CarriedAwayChannel The way you just straight up lied 💀💀💀. The presidents, mayors, and senators republicans vote into power don't support nor aid in further marginalizing minorities???? If you can vote somebody like that into positions of power, that have harmful agendas that hurt minorities in this country, you are just as awful as they are. If they don't reflect your views, why vote for them or support a party that does??? Is that not common sense??? I sure as hell couldn't but I guess common sense isn't really that common. A fat ass majority of the republican party doesn't even want freedom for all. If that was the case, so many of them wouldn't be against blm, abortion, and LGBTQIA+ rights/ people in general. The party you support reflects your own views and if thats what a majority of what your party is saying and you still support, maybe you aren't the all mighty person you think you are.
you know this is an old video when he says "come meet me at pride" because 2020 you know....
I think privilege at this point (other than privilege afforded by your family which has nothing to do with race) is the benefit of the doubt the general public gives you based on their experience or "perceived experience"(as given by media/stereotypes etc) with said demographic...
Appreciate the nuanced conversation you're presenting. It's a difficult message to spread to white people (I find myself as a white person trying to discuss this with my white friends and family in partuclar) that being pro-black and acknowledging the privileges that come with being white are not being anti-white. Yes, there definitely are, as you mentioned, black people that say derogatory things about whites as a way to display black pride and black activism. That's kind of the nature of any social movement and social change; you're going to have people use a spectrum of rhetoric, some of which is more moderate, some of which is more extreme, some of which is divisive. But I've come to understand that you don't have to agree with those exact people to still be behind the movement and the message. I think for some white people, they can't ever make that distinction. Having videos like this is important.
Fiddle Stix It’s not really a difficult message to spread since it’s already spreading through universities and the media. Evergreen is an example of that.
I'm a straight white suburban mom just trying to educate myself. You really taught me some things today and helped me see a different perspective, so thank you!
Shit, quarantine has me learning more then in school 😭
Lol same I’m just bored but not bored enough to do my homework
I am a white lesbian dating a bisexual African American girl, and it makes me upset that there is a divide in the LGBTQ+ community makes me upset.
You mentioned the dress code thing and suddenly it CLICKED for me, dude.
Dress codes in certain areas and clubs are because of high gang activity tbh. Certain areas have very high murder rates based on gang rivalry. You should really look into that. Everything isn’t about color. Sometimes there’s legit reasons.
I love these conversations. I receive the massage so clearly. Thank you! ❤️
I know...the man gets deep. Knowledge!
Jesus loves you what ever your sexual orientation, color, race. Do not listen to people that say otherwise.
Just come as you are ❤️❤️
God blessed you.
I needed this so badly. I know this is a month late, but thank you.
@@joehall3340 Yea 💞
Girl God loves everyone but he dies care about sexual orientation you can't just make up your own things
You are lost.The bible specifically said',a man shall leave his father and mother and become one with his wife.He created Eve for Adam and not Everado or Everd.Curse be upon them who adds or takes away from the Bible.
@@vannypel3636 the same bible that was used to support slavery? Or the one that suppresses woman and supports misogyny??
This is so huge! Not only for people from US but all around the world. I'm white and Brazilian and this is a topic of conversation here too. We don't have like, a Black pride but we always talk about the diferences of being a white gay men between being Black and... exactly! We need to think about these racial aspects in the gay community because each one experiences the world in different way and this topic is very present in the gay community here in Brazil, of course, because of our colonial history and slave.
At the same time, the LGBTQI+ is about celebrating sexual diversity, taking into account the different forms of sexuality and how this sexuality is seen. Black bodies are seen differently from white bodies. PERIOD.
But now, if we look at black trans people, black fem drags, the discussion takes on other directions as well because each one has their own place of speech and own peculiarities. We must have dignity to be proud of and if our issues are not discussed in the community, how can we go into the parade pride if we do not feel represented in the discussion?
Your video is very important and I have to say that you are one of my inspirations to do YT, even though I have not really started yet.
Its funny that you wouldnt be seen as regular white in the us or western europe😂
I love your content sooo much! Keep making quality content I don’t see many gay men of color who shake the table and do all the things you do. I love how you speech with knowledge.
From a person of color cause you have to state that now why does race have to be the focus of anything? We are all American are we not the more we focus on race the harder it is to move forward as a society just wanted to point that out.
I totally agree.
Omg thank you so much, this is exactly how I feel
Because our country is built on race identity class structures and racism. If we don't advocate for our individual groups we will get left in the dust. This is the basic fabric of politics.
Aye ik this is super random and all but does anyone know the background music?
Because without the pretend division divide and conquer won’t work. We’re divided by class. Race. Gender. Belief system and within these divisions exist sub divisions. This is how a few Europeans took over North America and Rome ended up falling. The divisions were exploited causing the population to fight with each other instead of the 20 who were taking the entire thing over. It’s Marxism in action.
All this gay racism talk is kinda sad. Crazy so many people obsess over this stuff
No time for blame games. Forgive em' all. Love em' all. Prophesy is now! For real. Jesus is the answer! :)
Angz Hamz u mean God, Christians idolize Jesus too much and that is very much wrong. Also in the Bible it talks how homosexuality is wrong bc marriage is sacred only between men and woman and nothing else
Crazy how people obsessed over being homosexual 🥱.
YoBroJoe you can’t say someone’s belief is wrong. That’s crazy talk and shows that you yourself lack enough discipline and or self control to not judge others for their beliefs. So what. Stoicism 101
Angz Hamz Christianity has nothing to do with this.
17:15 Im glad u mentioned this cuz god i hate being a fetish🤦♂️💯
Why is the gay community segregated? Answer: Bcuz sexual orientation and racism are two different things.
informative, fact checked and GORGEOUS all over OMG thank youuuuuuu for this!
“YOU HOLD NO POWER HERE” -reality
OG_spooky cause we are cool
Cause were raising walls instead of tearing them down. Im also tired of that defense that if you have a diffrent opinion on something. People respond with your racist or your homophobic/ transphobic. Cant have a debate this way
Difference of opinion is mainly an issue when those same folks want to push their thinking onto you and thus discriminate. I care not if someone doesnt care for a trans, gay, etc, but when they say you can't have this, i wont take care of you, or actively push for laws to deny you rights is the problem. Thus determining whether this is someone who is simply having a different opinion versus actively trying to keep you down becomes very hard to differentiate.
I'm sincerely glad this comments section is still open.
Ejaculation is the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit
Sean Lopez sin is sexy
@@seanlopez7742 The Lord once said _cummy yummy in my tummy_ 😌
Sean Lopez guess i can’t have kids
To be honest to you .... God bless African Americans. What they have achieved after what the have been through, if they become more stronger, come together, trust me they can rule the world in everting.
not only African Americans though, people of straight African descent
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Yea thank god the africans sold their own people. We dont talk about that part though so ill stay hush about it.
PK Right. They sold their own people because they were typically given beer and rum, which, if you’re smart enough, was extremely addictive (more than it is nowadays). When you’re addicted to a substance you WILL do whatever it takes to get it. Do research.
PK and Goin UP I’ve seen other comments by you guys and it seems like you guys came just to hate
Wow yeah learned a lot here. I’m not really a part of the lgbtq community and I’m not black but I fully support equality in its purest form and so I am always interested in broadening my perspective to these issues regardless of how difficult it is to discuss. One thing that really surprised me was the club dress code thing. I always wondered why that was because I like to dress in punk attire and sometimes I get asked to leave chains or something in my car and I always thought it was for safety reasons like they’re afraid I’m gonna choke someone in the mosh pit or something. Never would’ve realized it might be a race thing.
you are so intelligent that its actually inspiring, im bout to be a GSU freshman this fall and your knowledge really motivates me to learn a lot these 4 years
Idk in LA if there are two separate prose but I do know we have a hip pop section a main stage and a Latino, edm, stage. And this yeah the hip pop stage was outside instead of inside the festival 😒 I found it pretty interesting
im really glad this came up in my recommended in june of 2020
i'm so confused on why people are upset about black pride or latino pride?? it's just a space for lgbt+ poc where they don't have to worry about racism. how is that bad
“People are using racial segregation to stay safe from racism” I wish I could lend you liberals some self-awareness for just one day.
Many people of color fought very hard during to civil rights movement to ABOLISH segregated spaces, this is a step back in the wrong direction
So you want your own less racist water fountains too?
@@threefiddy2779 Well integrated spaces at least in the gay community have largely failed. They have also failed straight community too since white flight is still a thing.
@@threefiddy2779 They don't want to feel like objects of someone else's hate or disgust in spaces that were supposed to be welcoming.
Who else is here from 2020, and also thought this video was made in 2020?
Totally. The last point is for today, 2020. To each needs to have their comfort zones. However as said, not to say one is better than the other.
who here asking stupid questions
I don’t understand why the black and whites should be divided
Deutsche comrade so you want racism to continue?
They shouldn’t
Deutsche comrade I actually kinda agree with that
@Deutsche comrade Wow, I've never met someone so opposite of my views. You are a ethno-nationalist. The truth is, no human being should have pride for their race. You had nothing to do with the accomplishments of your race, and there is absolutely no significant difference between the races. You want to know the biggest difference? White people are at higher risk for skin cancer and black people are at higher risk for heart disease. That's it. Some small genetic differences that affect very specific things. The best goal is to mix the cultures into one, I agree that creating divisions is dangerous, so we should try to assimilate cultures into each other. This doesn't mean that people can't bring parts of their culture over, that's part of the American way. For example, the Hamburger burger originated in the German city of Hamburg. But, German American immigrants eventually made it into the popular hamburger today. The German American immigrants perfectly assimilated with the rest of the nation, that's all the matters.
We shouldn't have black, white, or gay pride anythings. Why? Because all of those things are things out of your control. Those aren't accomplishments, those are just descriptions. You didn't do anything by being white, black, or gay, it just happened. The only thing we should have collective pride for is nations, for now. It makes sense in a democratic nation as we do all collectively vote either on decisions or our representatives. On top of that, the decisions your nation makes has a direct effect on you, therefore you should be able to feel partial pride for its accomplishments if you have to bear its mistakes. But, other than that, we shouldn't really be celebrating any of this pride shit.
TLDR: Blacks and Whites are the same fucking thing you stupid idiots. We're all homo sapiens, you think cats argue about their different fur colors, no, because it's fucking stupid.
Idc, pride groups have always been very tribal. Despite the all the talk of inclusion, there are always some people who wanna gatekeep their community
I understand what your saying but at the end of the day at some point we have to stop thinking like that (we have to stop looking to be disappointed) because that does not help the situation. I see a lot of interracial couples doing well. If those white guys were not interested in you it's their loss.
Tarek is very attractive... I dont see the problem.
@@chastonmarshall3427 There are potentially many reasons why Tarek may not get picked by a white guy, I'm sure it's not just cause the color of his skin.
Kasey C. Jones here we go 🙄
I mean, I kinda get what you're saying. I see a lot of girls say stuff like "Wow darker skinned guys are SOOO hot!" and get praise and agreement for that. But if anyone ever says "I think lighter skinned people are hotter!", it's considered racist. I don't think having a preference to skin color automatically means you're racist. It's not really different than having a preference between favorite colors (like red, blue, green etc). The problem I guess, is telling _why_ they have the preferences they do. It might just be nothing more than personal taste, but it also might be subconscious racism.
um girl you're completely missing the point @@akiiesugereadt
I've stumbled upon your channel randomly and I am so impressed by the way you talk about things. As a foreigner I've always find it hard to truly understand some racial issues in western values/cultures. I love the way you've mentioned that it's hard to do comparisons but was able to draw up specific criteria for in depth discussion. I often hear people talk about "A will never understand B" or "C just has it worse than D". Although most of these statements are most likely true, it always felt like an overgeneralization that can result in more exclusion than inclusivity in conversations. Anyways thank you for the video - it's very enlightening
I like that expression.
"You want me for the sheets but not the streets" ✨
Nice way to put it. It's unfortunate 😐
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