Post Office Inquiry: Former Post Office boss Paula Vennells gives evidence - Day 3

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  • Опубліковано 25 вер 2024
  • Paula Vennells, the former Group Chief Executive Officer of Post Office Ltd - gives evidence at the Post Office inquiry.
    Ms Vennells was at the helm of the government-owned body during the key Horizon operating years of 2012 to 2019.
    She's been regularly referenced in the inquiry, set up to establish a clear account of the introduction and failure of Fujitsu's Horizon accounting software.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 55

  • @sweatymrkim4578
    @sweatymrkim4578 4 місяці тому +17

    Jail her.

  • @mariesimpson7613
    @mariesimpson7613 4 місяці тому +11

    On another point, if I was being tried in a criminal case I would want Sir Wyn Williams to be the judge!

  • @BrendanMacWade
    @BrendanMacWade 4 місяці тому +6

    Days 1 and 2 set the table. Today was the grilling. I feel the fire all the way from New York. That last round of questions from the Hudgell team was a stroke of brilliance. It started off respectfully, and questions were easy. Then the temperature slowly went up. By the time Vennells was presented with part of the cover-up documented in her annual self-assessment, she was impeaching herself with every answer. That's worth a re-watch.

  • @chiefweazel
    @chiefweazel 4 місяці тому +12

    'Paula Vennells' would make a good brand name for a new non-stick frying pan! :)

  • @iansmith-hughes691
    @iansmith-hughes691 4 місяці тому +14

    People's lives were destroyed by this woman's action or lack of it.
    No sympathy for her.
    She knew what was happening and tried covering up.
    Shame on her.
    Disgraceful.

  • @michaelmouse4024
    @michaelmouse4024 4 місяці тому +3

    I am getting increasingly forgetful so I am starting to think that I might once have been a PM, MP, newspaper owner, Duke of York or CEO at the post office.

  • @Dungshoveleux
    @Dungshoveleux 4 місяці тому +11

    Gives evidence? Forgets evidence, more like.

  • @lipseeboohay430
    @lipseeboohay430 4 місяці тому +6

    Nice to see the last word going to Jo Hamilton .

  • @WELLBRAN
    @WELLBRAN 4 місяці тому +4

    I can't recall ...oh that's alright then

  • @gwynethgallen8946
    @gwynethgallen8946 4 місяці тому +3

    Venal. But she was never going to do a mega mea culpa. We know why.
    She had a long time to finesse that performance.

  • @Harlequin1951
    @Harlequin1951 4 місяці тому +2

    02:05:23 Under the bus time! One of those people named is now in Australia and she refused to attend this enquiry. Another has gone missing and nobody knows where he is. I do wonder whether the Rev Vennells might now be considering moving to a country with no extradition treaty with the UK! 🤔

    • @fireskycam9889
      @fireskycam9889 4 місяці тому +3

      The rats are all scurrying around looking for a way out

  • @mariesimpson7613
    @mariesimpson7613 4 місяці тому +2

    I was thinking today about when each of these PO bosses actually realised that Horizon was faulty and had caused these miscarriages of justice. There are probably two dates, one when they actually knew or suspected the problems were real and one when they officially knew.

  • @paulmoran217
    @paulmoran217 4 місяці тому +8

    She cries a few times........many started crying backaways and still are. The buck stopped at her desk; and she failed to respond. If the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing, incompetence is present. Her salary?....massive. Her competence?... miniscule. The only redeeming feature is there must be others who failed her.

    • @robinwas-miles9686
      @robinwas-miles9686 4 місяці тому +1

      But there is a cunning approach to her carefully considered answers. She likes words, self-beliefs, laying off duties and responsibilities, avoiding reliality and playing her team in a way that is so devilish and masterful. Staying in her job/s whilst making a packet. I'd say she had a robotic ability to play her moves accordingly. To not come clean in this enquiry despite all the evidence, and balancing her own wishes to protect the PO and Fujitsu and continue as long as they did was perversly a masterclass of disception.

  • @vaughanlockett658
    @vaughanlockett658 4 місяці тому +6

    Chosen on merit of course and not to fill a agenda.

  • @fireskycam9889
    @fireskycam9889 4 місяці тому +2

    These were not "Bugs" that could manifest themselves intermittently. They were known bugs that were there permanently and could have been addressed.
    Instead, she sought for a way to describe them as something that they can't manage or do anything about by the description "Manifest themselves".
    Thus a cover up.

  • @andrewedwards6233
    @andrewedwards6233 4 місяці тому +2

    How did she ever get her first job with the PO as network director given that she knows nothing about IT?

  • @user-cy4fz7mo7v
    @user-cy4fz7mo7v 4 місяці тому +3

    When the bully gets bullied. And make no mistake this horrible woman is a bully and all her cronies knew damn well what was going on .In complete denial. Judas

  • @Spica1000
    @Spica1000 4 місяці тому +3

    Was there a court summons here? Did she have to attend this? If not, it was a Sui side act to go! Why would she do that? All I’m saying!

    • @keithripley7481
      @keithripley7481 4 місяці тому +2

      Because it’s statutory inquiry the judge can order people to attend under the inquiries act 2005.. the 1 person who as refused can do so because she lives abroad

    • @laxeystu8096
      @laxeystu8096 2 місяці тому

      I think that the context is that they are under police investigation so they have to be careful as to what they say, but they may also feel under pressure to appear to be cooperative to the enquiry because that may be helpful in terms of sorting out what they should be charged with
      Turning up to this and saying 'don't know' or 'can't recall' to every question may get them through this but might be detrimental in the police consideration later. Not sure how that works.

  • @SpencerLao
    @SpencerLao 4 місяці тому +4

    she's getting proper carved up.

    • @laxeystu8096
      @laxeystu8096 2 місяці тому

      Three good lengthy questions from the leading barristers
      That's the best that we can do, short of prosecution in court

  • @fireskycam9889
    @fireskycam9889 4 місяці тому +2

    She constantly says that she didn’t mean what she wrote.
    The most dislexic CEO ever

  • @MrDerbee
    @MrDerbee 4 місяці тому +4

    What if a man turned on the water works at the crucial moment?

    • @tonyjones7372
      @tonyjones7372 4 місяці тому +1

      I would ask how many times in her career progression has she melted into tears during the thousands of meetings she must have attended and chaired to get the level she did.

  • @robinblick9375
    @robinblick9375 3 місяці тому +1

    This beats any TV drama...The anger ... in fact hatred...is as real as it gets.

  • @julieviollet1657
    @julieviollet1657 4 місяці тому +4

    She is clearly been Teflon coated, as nothing appears to stick to her.

  • @Vultoor
    @Vultoor 3 місяці тому +1

    I haven’t seen any footage of questions of where Vennells is asked why the insurers were called in. That’s key in the timeline

  • @paulhall8146
    @paulhall8146 4 місяці тому +3

    I really enjoyed this display. It’s wrong to close it

  • @robinblick9375
    @robinblick9375 3 місяці тому +1

    Mr Beer K.C: 'Please state your name.' Paula Vennells: 'I'm so sorry {Long pause] I can't recall it.'

  • @fireskycam9889
    @fireskycam9889 4 місяці тому +4

    5:09:00
    I bet she'll be bored in the prison cell.

  • @robinblick9375
    @robinblick9375 3 місяці тому

    She keeps stopping mid sentence, then starts another that bears little or no relation to the first.

  • @robinblick9375
    @robinblick9375 3 місяці тому

    That lady in the blue dress on the right...her smile suggests to me that her revenge is sweet.

  • @fcarstens6161
    @fcarstens6161 4 місяці тому +4

    Paula Vennell is married...?? Her husband must be blind.....

  • @robinblick9375
    @robinblick9375 3 місяці тому

    'I know nothing about that, or anything else except the size of my salery and bonuses. After all, I'm only the boss.

  • @jimcowley330
    @jimcowley330 4 місяці тому +7

    Oh what a crooked Web we weve when we practice to deceive.

  • @robinblick9375
    @robinblick9375 3 місяці тому

    Never 'yes or 'no' but 'I don't believe I did' or 'I imagine I did'. Obviously she has been briefed to use these eliptical responses. as indeed were the three university Heads interviewed by the US Congress over their repsonse, or rather lack of it, to campus anti-Semitism.

  • @robinblick9375
    @robinblick9375 3 місяці тому

    lady in blue...if looks could kill...

  • @robinblick9375
    @robinblick9375 3 місяці тому

    Philibustering...zero content.

  • @Scott-up3bq
    @Scott-up3bq 4 місяці тому +2

    Just worked out who vennells looks like.gonch gardner from Grange hill.does anybody agree.my wife thinks I'm losing the plot.

  • @mariesimpson7613
    @mariesimpson7613 4 місяці тому +3

    I thought mr stein was a bit too aggressive with some of his questioning. It doesn’t help your concentration when being spoken to like that. I’m not complaining about the words he used, because I thought he summarised her previous answers very well, it was the level of aggression in his voice. I would not cooperate with someone speaking to me like that.

    • @Rachel_PureBold
      @Rachel_PureBold 4 місяці тому +3

      It was probably frustration caused by her continuous softly spoken obfuscation. Exasperating!

    • @Will-nn6ux
      @Will-nn6ux 4 місяці тому +3

      She very much deserved that tone. This may be the closest to a criminal trial she ever receives, and she was required to cooperate.

    • @mariesimpson7613
      @mariesimpson7613 4 місяці тому

      @@Will-nn6ux I hope she does get criminally charged, and I think she should go to prison.
      But I personally didn’t like seeing her bullied like that. Giving evidence shouldn’t be a punishment.

    • @fireskycam9889
      @fireskycam9889 4 місяці тому

      I agree

    • @laxeystu8096
      @laxeystu8096 2 місяці тому

      ​@mariesimpson7613 The softly spoken Mr Moloney didn't question her like that
      She's clearly misrepresenting what happened and being put under pressure is perfectly appropriate in this case
      She presided over a regime that bullied and crushed SPMs relentlessly year after year, it was a disgrace