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  • Alan Bates, the campaigner who helped to expose critical flaws in Post Office IT systems, is appearing before the public inquiry into the scandal as it enters a crucial phase.
    The former sub-postmaster, played by Toby Jones in the recent ITV drama, is being asked about the company’s response to the scandal, which led to 900 sub-postmasters being prosecuted for stealing due to faulty information given by the Horizon computer system.
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  • @patriciaoreilly8907
    @patriciaoreilly8907 Місяць тому +31

    I can't listen to the 'Post Office ' cover up without feeling pure anger , the mental & physical torture they willingly inflicted on innocent hard workers for the community. Nothing less than prison sentences have to be dished out no cover up Justice for the innocent. Shameful act will go down in history & never forgiven or forgotten.

    • @andydudley1775
      @andydudley1775 Місяць тому

      it does not matter how hard you work and for how long .if you stepping on tory hands out for proffit we going to jail.

    • @gordonbitting1659
      @gordonbitting1659 14 годин тому

      I can understand your anger and the terrible thing is that the people responsible for the cover up could still be going to their luxury home,bed and food and no problem sleeping.

  • @keith8609
    @keith8609 Місяць тому +51

    Post office officials responsible for the cover up must go to prison

    • @pw847
      @pw847 Місяць тому +4

      Prison ! That my vote . I wonder if this will just pan out and they get to walk away . Let's watch and see how fair the UK legal system is.

  • @subculture2006
    @subculture2006 Місяць тому +36

    The people responsible need long prison sentences.... especially the senior management.

    • @andydudley1775
      @andydudley1775 Місяць тому +1

      this is the reality we got more chance of us going to jail for going to far with our reactions farmed by you tube to please tory .

  • @stevehaynes2857
    @stevehaynes2857 Місяць тому +17

    Why is Vennells being employed now by the NHS? What on earth has gone wrong with this country?

    • @andydudley1775
      @andydudley1775 Місяць тому +2

      she is a direct danger to the public for proffit .and look what she been given as the reward .

    • @peterg219
      @peterg219 Місяць тому +4

      The mafia in the 1960's was concerned about the U.S. government always being on their back, and so the mafia decided to become the government.

    • @pmarmify
      @pmarmify 4 дні тому

      I proved NHS manager or managers LIED to pension ombudsman & lied to NHS pensions I WON MY CASE. They said they did not know I was injured very badly on duty. Yet emails between managers proved they KNEW & emails proved they covered up my injuries. Post office all over again where by not one person been fired or jailed for misconduct in public office

  • @cherryrotella3714
    @cherryrotella3714 Місяць тому +20

    My respects to you Mr Bates

  • @paulmarshall8411
    @paulmarshall8411 Місяць тому +5

    Mr Bates is excellent.

  • @FlashGormless
    @FlashGormless Місяць тому +13

    I think a lot has to be said for the enquiry team. They have acted and behaved marvellously throughout the whole time of this scandal, This team gives me hope that there are still good guys and gals out there willing to do the decent thing and behave with dignity. Bravo!!

  • @matthewhaddon599
    @matthewhaddon599 Місяць тому +17

    Sadly big companies do not like anyone pointing out that they have a problem...their attitude is keep quiet or piss off!

  • @cabbagepatchbish
    @cabbagepatchbish Місяць тому +7

    Honestly the police should be going into the offices and confiscating any computers or accessing their accounts to provide this evidence. They are blantantly delaying this with malicious intent. I really do not know how these people at the Post Office sleep at night.

  • @rweems5796
    @rweems5796 Місяць тому +5

    I’ve not watched all of the testimony - just sporadic sampling. I’m impressed by the several ‘inquisitors’ methods and approaches to questioning. Each has a clear, clean, knowledgeable and sharply effective technique, but Mr. Beer is exceptional! I’ve become a true FanGirl of Mr. Beer and his dogged, deliberate and point-specific encircling of the person in the testimony-box who does not want to answer questions. I’ve watched people who think they can hide behind the shield of “I don’t recall” slowly and deliberately experience a tightening of the proverbial noose or, is it possible to employ one of the Bard’s offerings: with their testimony of a flawed memory in Mr. Beer’s capable hands they “hoist by they’re own petard”.

  • @user-zq8qp3eg5n
    @user-zq8qp3eg5n Місяць тому +8

    [find it incredible that over many years, these cases were taken to Courts, where so called intelligent Legal bods, Judges and many others did not smell a rat with so many thieves suddenly running Post Offices.

    • @helenrogers1400
      @helenrogers1400 Місяць тому +2

      Methinks they are co-opted. 👎👎👎👎👎👎👎

    • @amandamcauley
      @amandamcauley 17 днів тому +2

      Yes it would make you wonder wouldn't it.

  • @kevingrainger2530
    @kevingrainger2530 Місяць тому +8

    All Government departments & Agencies misinform and obstruct in England.
    Mr Kevin Hollinrake MP obstructs with three compensation schemes & demanding medical records from Post masters.
    The PO solicitors should be struck off by the Solicitors Regulatory Authority [SRA].
    Government payouts are notoriously slow, taking more than forty years.

  • @gtek8021
    @gtek8021 Місяць тому +5

    Post Office ltd was able to be Judge, Jury and Executioner. Paula Vennells and all of the senior Executives, Post Office, Fujitsu and MP's/Ministers in the know HAVE TO GO TO PRISON for the damage done to innocent peoples lives and the lives that are sadly lost. How does Paula Vennells sleep at night!
    This is a perfect example that "POWER CORRUPTS AND ABSOLUTE POWER CORRUPTS ABSOLUTELY"

  • @SodalisUK
    @SodalisUK Місяць тому +3

    There needs to be some significant penalties levied against the post office and its senior management in order to get them to act properly.

  • @johnteeling4679
    @johnteeling4679 Місяць тому +8

    Surely all documents referencing shortcomings in accounts would require the prosecution to disclose and show were, when, and time shortcomings came to light. They must highlight these areas to the defence to enable the defence to disprove the figures?

  • @geoffwright9570
    @geoffwright9570 Місяць тому +3

    Alan bates is definitely the man of the moment in this scandal. For me he stands head and shoulders above any of the post office managers and quite probably some in Fujitsu as well.

  • @tanagra2
    @tanagra2 Місяць тому +3

    Just think, if it wasn’t this good man Alan Bates none of this, no inquiry, nothing would be in place to bring the corrupt people to justice.

  • @grantking7341
    @grantking7341 Місяць тому +6

    Crooks

  • @malvinmoss1869
    @malvinmoss1869 Місяць тому +2

    This is a person that should become a member of the House of Lords. Someone of principle, "Justice for Workers".

  • @ronniejones4183
    @ronniejones4183 Місяць тому +21

    I hope the management go to prison.

  • @michaelellard4664
    @michaelellard4664 Місяць тому +3

    A brilliant witness.

  • @drinksafewater
    @drinksafewater 22 дні тому +3

    Would anyone be happy as a patient or staff at a Hospital Trust under Rev. Paula Vennells? This must be a strange selection Board.

  • @HAIS-hr3lz
    @HAIS-hr3lz Місяць тому +2

    Section 21.3? I feel a little confused after 17minutes, full and utter credit to the enquiry legal team in keeping a firm grip on this mess. No wonder these enquiries cost millions. If the "Thugs in Suites" are eventually found I hope they are made liable for some of the costs of this enquiry

  • @andydudley1775
    @andydudley1775 Місяць тому +10

    notice he forgotten nothing .im saying this before i watch it i already know he telling the truth .unlike those high paid pillers of the community with titles honors and tory for friends .some one needs to go for the media and find out who thought it was good idear to hound inacent people in local papers to punish people they new was inacent .ignorence is no exuse of the law they published lies and need to pay.the local papers can sue the courts if they think there been misstreated .then we find out who needed that doing at least .

    • @Alan-ss3xp
      @Alan-ss3xp Місяць тому +2

      The Post Office officials seem to have serious memory issues. A favourite phrase “I don’t recall.”

  • @andrewcrawford1003
    @andrewcrawford1003 Місяць тому +6

    Vennells must go to jail.

  • @hholton7245
    @hholton7245 Місяць тому +10

    Thugs and criminals in suits, Sir Ed only believed one side. Plod should be all over this?

    • @rfxtuber
      @rfxtuber Місяць тому +2

      This is just a drama for consumption..The police wont do anything... These people have been getting away with so many crimes for so many years they actually believe this is some kind of accountability.. it just for show...

    • @hholton7245
      @hholton7245 Місяць тому +3

      @@rfxtuber So true. I suspect the same tactic will be used to cover up any liability in the Grenfell Tower inquiry. The Guardian reported 4 months ago - Grenfell Tower inquiry’s final report on cause of disaster delayed again. "
      "Grenfell Tower inquiry’s final report on cause of disaster delayed again. Findings may not be released until summer as process of writing to those likely to be criticised ‘proving time consuming."
      With so many people tragically losing their lives one would have thought that the police would have been the first to investigate? But no as with the Post Office scandal they are waiting on the outcome of a public inquiry. Maybe it's just a coincidence?🙄

    • @rfxtuber
      @rfxtuber Місяць тому

      @@hholton7245 You can bet Grenfell will be the same.... its all by design... none of these people are ever held accountable... that includes the so called terror incidents in this country.. The media just helps them stay out of trouble with manufacturing so called inquiries and fines... nothing to see here move on...That's the real scandal...

  • @matwilliams8012
    @matwilliams8012 7 днів тому +1

    Isn’t it amazing when Mr. Bates is answering that there are no excuses, no waffle, no pushing the problem down the road - clear, concise, seems to have no problem remembering things and knowledgable answers - it’s no wonder the PO hire ups didn’t like him, he could have done their jobs standing on his head.
    It’s perfectly clear that they terminated his contract, simply because they couldn’t bully or intimidate him into just coughing up any money which he (rightfully) didn’t need to provide.

  • @wz5734
    @wz5734 23 дні тому +2

    A Knighthood for that man.

  • @scottiedog4236
    @scottiedog4236 16 днів тому +1

    300 years old the Post Office is .. just an amazing job to have

  • @mrswindymiller
    @mrswindymiller Місяць тому +18

    Wow what a person with such convictiopn to bring the truth out, they picked on the wrong person to try and shut down. I think he should be knighted for what he has done.

    • @andydudley1775
      @andydudley1775 Місяць тому +3

      he turned down any pandering by the tory to please him.what is a knighthood mean these day's who wants to be in that club .you be labeled a tory .

    • @subculture2006
      @subculture2006 Місяць тому

      @@andydudley1775 All the politicians are useless and corrupt. At the time the Lib Dem Ed Davey was the minister responsible. He belongs in jail.

  • @user-yd4fu4zv6h
    @user-yd4fu4zv6h Місяць тому +3

    just lock them all up and throw away the key,

  • @Musical_Man_Guitar
    @Musical_Man_Guitar Місяць тому +1

    This is just awful, how could PO management behave so callously!

  • @Barbara-qf9qr
    @Barbara-qf9qr 7 днів тому +1

    How much did Fujitsu cost the NHS 10 billion so far and goverment still use them

  • @biling7636
    @biling7636 Місяць тому +1

    this why it is taking so long when repeating interviews.people want to see court cases with the management in the dock before we are all dead.I'll put money on that not one of them will serve time in my life time.

  • @johnmurray9526
    @johnmurray9526 Місяць тому +1

    What a disgusting company the post office is/was. People in charge around this period need putting in jail!

  • @leso204
    @leso204 Місяць тому +3

    The gordian knot being unraveled ?

  • @alfieakaronaldog
    @alfieakaronaldog Місяць тому +1

    I would not be surprised if Paula Vennells chooses to be with her Lord, rather than give evidence that will lead to a long prison sentence for herself.

  • @robertstubbs8062
    @robertstubbs8062 18 днів тому +1

    What complete and utter bastard's to treat hard working and honest people that were caught up in this fiasco through no fault of their own. Then to be thrown to the wolves in order to cover up the inadequate PO and computer program. This has been going on since the nineties. In the meantime it has totally destroyed people's lives and health, not to mention people who have since past away and will never have any redress and have died in turmoil.
    I hope that the remaining people will get considerable recompense for their heartbreak and despair. It remains to be seen whether the inept and dishonest senior management and computer program company get what's coming to them.
    There may have been one or two dishonest postmasters in reality, but not 900.

  • @peejaygeee
    @peejaygeee Місяць тому

    Patently obvious that the staff at POL either had no qualifications to enable answers to questions or did know the truth, but deliberately withheld such from the sub postmasters who were desperately to trying to get answers from them.

  • @stanbest3743
    @stanbest3743 Місяць тому +1

    If any participant in this sorry affair deserves an OBE it is Alan Bates

  • @daklakdigital3691
    @daklakdigital3691 Місяць тому +6

    DOES FUJITSU STILL HAVE THE CONTRACT, STILL.

    • @andydudley1775
      @andydudley1775 Місяць тому +3

      renewed contracts was given out a week before itv shown the tory and the justice system for what it is for the friends of tory .

    • @andypandy955
      @andypandy955 Місяць тому +3

      YES

    • @daklakdigital3691
      @daklakdigital3691 Місяць тому

      @@andypandy955 IN ANY SANE GOVERNMENT THE CONTRACT WOULD HAVE BEEN TERMINATED FORTHWITH.
      MY FORMER B-IN-LAW, CHOY HON-TIM, ACCEPTED USD$40-MILLION IN BRIBES FROM SEVERAL INTERNATIONAL ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT SUPPLIERS TO SELL EQUIPMENT TO SINGAPORE. CHOY WAS KEY PERSON MAKING THE DECION. WHEN DISCOVERED, ALL BRIBING COMPANIES LOST ORDERS FOR 5 YEARS (CHOY GOT 14 YEARS IN CHANGI JAIL).
      WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT?

    • @FlashGormless
      @FlashGormless Місяць тому +5

      Yes They still use the Horizon system, I think the coding was written by a guy called "Dick Turpin" ?

  • @billscott4080
    @billscott4080 Місяць тому

    Behind.closed.doors
    What.really.do.the.royal.mail
    Bosses..think..

  • @user-kf3iw5hr5e
    @user-kf3iw5hr5e Місяць тому

    Owes 2:52

  • @Stu9395
    @Stu9395 Місяць тому +1

    We have seen the innocent go to jail, now let’s see the same for the GUILTY.