honestly it would be cool if there was a secret boss in ttyd that could actually guard and superguard (ooh! what if doo_liss could superguard while disguised as mario?)
It’s funny in a way, multiple Shiny enemies were removed because they didn’t feel like reusing assets that day. As for the Goombas, they’re probably tests for enemy behaviours, and being Dodgy or Superguarding were ultimately scrapped.
And then the dodge behavior was later used for the ninja shy guy in color splash. Looks to work the same way - dodges all normal attacks, but dies to Things
In the 2011 trailer for this game there was apparently meant to be 8 chapters like the older games so these enemies probably would've appeared in those but got scrapped.
sure were a lot of goombas some of which had the ability of common sense also i find it funny that mario puts so much power into his hammer that it just flys off in space when he misses an enemy with it never saw that at all in my two playthroughs
isn't Kamek Fly just his battle in W1-3 in the final game? In that battle, he flies, he doesn't turn your stickers to flip flops, and he does sometimes shoot the pink ball projectile which puts Mario to sleep for a couple of turns if you fail to block it
I mean, Kamek is still above ground in the other battles, just not enough that you would need to jump at him to hit him. Also, Cat wasn't being mean to Skawo, you are the ones who need to cut him slack. Cat was just being calmly techinical about where Kamek stays.
It would had been equally funny and frustating that on the same game where you can't do almost nothing you did on TTYD, including Superguard, enemies can.
Unfortunately most of the assets from that build weren't left in the files, there's references to a few partners and enemies from the 2010 prototype but their models and scripts are gone
The first few were probably mechanical tests for things that ended up being unfun. The rest were probably for the scrapped chapters (remember that the game had to be restarted from scratch because Miyamoto wanted only brand-friendly characters and a basic excuse plot, they likely didn't have the time to finish it.)
Kinda odd, considering Sticker Star was made 5 years after Super, the classic trilogy were made 3 years apart from each other, and Color Splash and Origami King were made 4 years apart from each other and Sticker Star.
NGL when I saw there was programmed behavior for Crowbers despite their graphics missing my hopes sort of went up for something similar for the Manders
@@Skawo Hopefully one day a demo build of the game surfaces... there were some 3DS demos that have been dumped and I know demos of SS existed, even before release. One even had a completely unique logo seen in zero promotional material. Outside of the E3 2010 build itself those would be the holy grail of finds for this game.
it's cool to see all of the unused enemies in this game! im guessing that the various goombas were test enemies that tested their assigned mechanicsl. an enemy that can counter you does sound pretty cool though
I surprised that nobody made a Mod or a custom version/game of sticker star, especially with all the unused stuff that is in this game. I would love to at least see a prototype or a proof of concept of a hack of this game
There's really not much to be surprised about when almost nobody wants this game to even physically exist anywhere near them. If anyone were to try and make something else out of it, they would have to make it a _complete_ overhaul that revamps the entire battle system, adds partners, and implements various other features of this caliber for anyone to even consider looking their project's way. Nevermind this being a gargantuan undertaking; you'd be hard pressed to find someone who A. believes this to be even remotely worth the effort, and B. would be willing to be this involved and hands-on with such a near-universally-despised game in the first place.
@@ShycoWarNever understood the hate for this game. I always thought it was just TTYDboomers expecting a 10/10 paper mario everytime from then onward.
They should've put the Goomba enemies in the final game in a way that you know what type of Goomba is until he attacks back/dodges you. Like the name says just "Goomba" and when you, for example, try to jump on him and he dodges you, the name changes to "Evasive Goomba". Man that would've been so funny! Imagine seeing someone using a Thing Sticker on a Goomba because he's tired of always getting surprised and it turns out to be just a regular Goomba! 🤣🤣
@@Joe15-ob4teWe already know that. It doesn't need repeating. And if you hate the game, why are you watching a video about scrapped enemies from the game? Doesn't make any sense to me, can you explain that?
can't really say i expected other enemies than these, all the original enemies that were in the 2010/2011 protos and the sunshine and smb3 enemies were almost entirely purged other than a few references in some files that define NPC/enemy data after all, also i did not expect the spin goomba to use what i thought was a leftover spin dash sound for mario
Me, beginning of video: "Wait, you're just... getting hit by these things? ...You can't superguard here, I've been playing too much TTYD." Superguard Goombas: "So about that..."
People like to hate on sticker star, but it's a neat 3DS game, and a decent job for such a system. If this truly is the the culprit entry that kickstarted the decay on the paper mario franchise, that's a different debate. Personally, I believe that started in SPM (even though it's also a neat game), and the problem really consolidated on Color Splash and Origami King (since those were released on "proper hardware" and only extended previous mistakes one after the other).
My thought about ptooies is that they were cut really late in development bc the got all graphics sound attack animations attack set and also not jumpable! Sometimes….So that is my thought about them
I honestly wonder if there's anyone in this comment section who doesn't just like to shit on this game like how Chuggaaconroy does.... Sure, it's not that good of a Paper Mario game, but it isn't a complete dumpster fire like everyone tries to claim it as.
It is actually my second most replayed paper mario game... I think. I loved the music, and until origami king released this was the only mobile paper mario game. Is it flawed? Yes, but I still really enjoyed it.
@@andrewbrehmer9848 Wow. Miracles really do exist. Really, Paper Mario doesn't require a grand story just because Super Paper Mario had one. Not to mention that with the exception of the first game, ALL of the games have a tedious feature that are so well talked about that even someone who only played Sticker Star and Color Splash has heard of them, especially TTYD (AKA, the one tied with Super for most critically acclaimed game in the series) with its constant backtracking (which might have gotten fixed in the remake, but I haven't checked yet).
@@lmrpirate5273Don't worry, I've seen people poop on this game on this comment section. Seems like there are still people who can't let go off this dead horse of a game.
I also enjoy Sticker Star. I think it's pretty fun. Flawed, yes, and I get why people dislike it so much, but I do feel like the absolute disdain for it is unwarranted.
Yes, we're sure. Because he is Mario's Enemy, instead of partner. Also, Goombella won't always superguard. She's not known for having that ability, it's not exclusive to her. Unlike Spin Goomba.
If you're referring about those beta pictures, I understand. These enemies, however, I don't see how they would add fun to the game at all, especially when the players don't fight enemies in the game, anyway.(and proceed to have way too many stickers on their album.)
The earlier builds of this game looked pretty faithful to classic Paper Mario so it's no surprise that there's a load of unused stuff. I do wonder if they're going to revisit that beta build for the next game.
I encourage you to at least look into the beta build of this game because it makes you see the game in a whole new light. It's kind of depressing, actually.
@@SuperMidHA Shiny Spiny won't single-handedly save this game. People don't like fighting the enemies, how is a more powerful version of a Spiny save this game?
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I dub the Superguarding Goombas "Hater Goombas"
Imagine learning an advanced battle technique just to fight one dude, the realest they've ever been
"I'm not gonna sugarcoat it."
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honestly it would be cool if there was a secret boss in ttyd that could actually guard and superguard
(ooh! what if doo_liss could superguard while disguised as mario?)
This Goombas are just like "what? you think i'm just gonna stand there and take it?"
It’s funny in a way, multiple Shiny enemies were removed because they didn’t feel like reusing assets that day. As for the Goombas, they’re probably tests for enemy behaviours, and being Dodgy or Superguarding were ultimately scrapped.
And then the dodge behavior was later used for the ninja shy guy in color splash. Looks to work the same way - dodges all normal attacks, but dies to Things
dodgy behavior was used in the final game with the wiggler segment battles though
In the 2011 trailer for this game there was apparently meant to be 8 chapters like the older games so these enemies probably would've appeared in those but got scrapped.
1:06 Prince Mush is quaking in his boots seeing this
Finally, some Goombas that are actually smart
Male goombas
Female goombas are smarter. But if using the prime paper universe rules then the males can be smart too
@@ashmander3465not in ttyd
the superguard goombas are even funnier considering mario himself can't do it back to them
sure were a lot of goombas
some of which had the ability of common sense
also i find it funny that mario puts so much power into his hammer that it just flys off in space when he misses an enemy with it
never saw that at all in my two playthroughs
isn't Kamek Fly just his battle in W1-3 in the final game? In that battle, he flies, he doesn't turn your stickers to flip flops, and he does sometimes shoot the pink ball projectile which puts Mario to sleep for a couple of turns if you fail to block it
...I completely forgot that was a thing.
Well, no matter. Will just trim that out :v
@@SkawoTbh that’s fair given the fact it’s sticker star
Give my boy some slack
It's a very forgettable game
I mean, Kamek is still above ground in the other battles, just not enough that you would need to jump at him to hit him.
Also, Cat wasn't being mean to Skawo, you are the ones who need to cut him slack. Cat was just being calmly techinical about where Kamek stays.
It would had been equally funny and frustating that on the same game where you can't do almost nothing you did on TTYD, including Superguard, enemies can.
Bowser should really teach his goombas how to superguard
1:13 Mmmmm... a goomba with superguard is really unusual to see in a paper mario game (like is just learn before in ttyd)😮
They took notes from goombella
That breathing noise that the Ptooies make, though.
Also, Kamek casually breaking the fabric of reality
4:30 "Prepare for my ultimate attack!"
*phases between realities*
2:04 i remember there being a typo on 2-fold shiny goombas in the paper mario sticker star prima guide
If we keep delving into this games files, i feel like we'll eventually just find the entire beta build somehow
Unfortunately most of the assets from that build weren't left in the files, there's references to a few partners and enemies from the 2010 prototype but their models and scripts are gone
Goomba In The Video 100/10
The first few were probably mechanical tests for things that ended up being unfun. The rest were probably for the scrapped chapters (remember that the game had to be restarted from scratch because Miyamoto wanted only brand-friendly characters and a basic excuse plot, they likely didn't have the time to finish it.)
Kinda odd, considering Sticker Star was made 5 years after Super, the classic trilogy were made 3 years apart from each other, and Color Splash and Origami King were made 4 years apart from each other and Sticker Star.
NGL when I saw there was programmed behavior for Crowbers despite their graphics missing my hopes sort of went up for something similar for the Manders
That would be the dream, but, alas.
@@Skawo Hopefully one day a demo build of the game surfaces... there were some 3DS demos that have been dumped and I know demos of SS existed, even before release. One even had a completely unique logo seen in zero promotional material. Outside of the E3 2010 build itself those would be the holy grail of finds for this game.
@@fawfulthegreat64 Wasn't the E3 2010 "build" just, like, a video?
@@Skawo Yeah but that video had to have been recorded from an actual build. It could be out there. But even finding just the video would be huge.
it's cool to see all of the unused enemies in this game! im guessing that the various goombas were test enemies that tested their assigned mechanicsl. an enemy that can counter you does sound pretty cool though
I surprised that nobody made a Mod or a custom version/game of sticker star, especially with all the unused stuff that is in this game. I would love to at least see a prototype or a proof of concept of a hack of this game
There's really not much to be surprised about when almost nobody wants this game to even physically exist anywhere near them.
If anyone were to try and make something else out of it, they would have to make it a _complete_ overhaul that revamps the entire battle system, adds partners, and implements various other features of this caliber for anyone to even consider looking their project's way.
Nevermind this being a gargantuan undertaking; you'd be hard pressed to find someone who A. believes this to be even remotely worth the effort, and B. would be willing to be this involved and hands-on with such a near-universally-despised game in the first place.
Honestly, I would sincerely like to do this as a person who likes wasting time, and doing anything with Sticker Star is a waste of time.
@@ShycoWarNever understood the hate for this game. I always thought it was just TTYDboomers expecting a 10/10 paper mario everytime from then onward.
Remember what was taken from us
Waluigi and goomba have the strongest stands
You'll never believe what the Ptooie at 2:43 says 😀
They should've put the Goomba enemies in the final game in a way that you know what type of Goomba is until he attacks back/dodges you.
Like the name says just "Goomba" and when you, for example, try to jump on him and he dodges you, the name changes to "Evasive Goomba".
Man that would've been so funny!
Imagine seeing someone using a Thing Sticker on a Goomba because he's tired of always getting surprised and it turns out to be just a regular Goomba! 🤣🤣
Wow, Sticker Star
Aka, the worst one in the entire paper mario series
@@Joe15-ob4teWe already know that. It doesn't need repeating. And if you hate the game, why are you watching a video about scrapped enemies from the game? Doesn't make any sense to me, can you explain that?
Nice to see more progress going into finding the beta details of this game
can't really say i expected other enemies than these, all the original enemies that were in the 2010/2011 protos and the sunshine and smb3 enemies were almost entirely purged other than a few references in some files that define NPC/enemy data after all, also i did not expect the spin goomba to use what i thought was a leftover spin dash sound for mario
Amazing, Skawo! You really got those unused enemies working in-game!
Can't believe people are still finding new stuff for this game.
Superguarding enemies, it's like the enemies from Super that can use the Flip ability to keep attacking you.
0:25 : Mario & Luigi but the main characters are Goombas
Me, beginning of video: "Wait, you're just... getting hit by these things? ...You can't superguard here, I've been playing too much TTYD."
Superguard Goombas: "So about that..."
I wonder if any of these Goombas were the precursor to those cutout tutorial Goombas from the 3 later Paper Mario games
So that’s where the spiting part of Smash Bros's Piranha Plant Ptooie Neutral Special came from.
Oh nice, thanks for compiling all these enemies into one video!
Funny. We were just talking about Sticker Star EX3 on Discord. This is totally that right? RIGHT?!?
the prerelease and e3 footage for this game looks so... promising, and all of that is gone in the release. rip partners
Love to see anything Sticker Star
So these are the Goombas Tippy was warning us about...
I wonder, could the goombas variant at the start be used originally to test stuff out with ennemies behavior?
This is some good stuff.
Im guessing Lakitu and Fishbones (i think thats the name) arent finished enough to be fightable?
No script for them is present.
@@Skawo a shame but alright
1:08 oh god... we're doomed...
People like to hate on sticker star, but it's a neat 3DS game, and a decent job for such a system.
If this truly is the the culprit entry that kickstarted the decay on the paper mario franchise, that's a different debate. Personally, I believe that started in SPM
(even though it's also a neat game), and the problem really consolidated on Color Splash and Origami King (since those were released on "proper hardware" and only extended previous mistakes one after the other).
My thought about ptooies is that they were cut really late in development bc the got all graphics sound attack animations attack set and also not jumpable! Sometimes….So that is my thought about them
1:06 enemies superguarding... In STICKER STAR???
I honestly wonder if there's anyone in this comment section who doesn't just like to shit on this game like how Chuggaaconroy does.... Sure, it's not that good of a Paper Mario game, but it isn't a complete dumpster fire like everyone tries to claim it as.
It is actually my second most replayed paper mario game... I think. I loved the music, and until origami king released this was the only mobile paper mario game. Is it flawed? Yes, but I still really enjoyed it.
@@andrewbrehmer9848 Wow. Miracles really do exist. Really, Paper Mario doesn't require a grand story just because Super Paper Mario had one. Not to mention that with the exception of the first game, ALL of the games have a tedious feature that are so well talked about that even someone who only played Sticker Star and Color Splash has heard of them, especially TTYD (AKA, the one tied with Super for most critically acclaimed game in the series) with its constant backtracking (which might have gotten fixed in the remake, but I haven't checked yet).
@@lmrpirate5273Don't worry, I've seen people poop on this game on this comment section. Seems like there are still people who can't let go off this dead horse of a game.
I also enjoy Sticker Star. I think it's pretty fun. Flawed, yes, and I get why people dislike it so much, but I do feel like the absolute disdain for it is unwarranted.
Awww man, I was hoping for KING_MONTYMOLE
king_choropu? unfortunately he doesn't have anything leftover that would allow functionality in battle
Unrelated but i forgog how unsatisfying the combo sounds were (or whatever youd call them, good, great, etc.)
it's a shame that until now we haven't been able to see lakitu and dry bones fish in a fight although both are in the game but cannot be fought
As a Paper Mario Sticker Star average enjoyer - I like this.
I do too, kinda.
It would've been nice if Goomba variants were in th me game with alternate colors like in previous PM games
For once, Goombas where smart... in RPG battle style.
Ash Goomba and Superguarding Goomba should kiss I think
ジュゲムはいないのか…
5割クリボーで草
are we sure Spin Goomba isn’t Goombella but less interesting
Yes, we're sure. Because he is Mario's Enemy, instead of partner. Also, Goombella won't always superguard. She's not known for having that ability, it's not exclusive to her. Unlike Spin Goomba.
Is it for sure softlocking because Kamek (ground) is unfinished? I'd think having two Kameks would be the cause.
With just one, the same thing happens.
@@Skawo damn... Thanks for telling.
They also must have forgot to use good game design too
As well as character design
Hurlhammers hurt indirectly?
Yes. You yeet the hammer, and once it leaves your hands, Mario is no longer involved in dealing the damage.
The enemy that swoop replaces is the crow from new super mario?
Yep
why are these good ideas
bro you will find us all the unused enemies of all paper mario 😭
I kinda wish the whole game was unused not gonna lie…
Do go go kokopolo
i will forever be pissed at nintendo for squandering the potential of this game
I believe the actual *fun* was left out of the final release of the game.
If you're referring about those beta pictures, I understand. These enemies, however, I don't see how they would add fun to the game at all, especially when the players don't fight enemies in the game, anyway.(and proceed to have way too many stickers on their album.)
Wait, this stupid game has unused enemies?
The earlier builds of this game looked pretty faithful to classic Paper Mario so it's no surprise that there's a load of unused stuff. I do wonder if they're going to revisit that beta build for the next game.
Yes, Tommy. Just because you think a game is stupid, that doesn't mean it won't have stuff like that.
Oh great, unused content for the most horrid paper mario game to ever exist.
What do you mean...? This is not a Super Paper Mario video.
I do have one for that game, too, though!
@@Skawo You must've misspelled Color Splash.
I encourage you to at least look into the beta build of this game because it makes you see the game in a whole new light. It's kind of depressing, actually.
@@rinn5238 yeah. A waste. A waste of good ideas broken by a specific person who hates Story and originality.
Sticker Star if it was good:
I'm not sure how adding a couple more random enemies would be much of an improvement
counterpoint: shiny spiny
@@SuperMidH true
@@SuperMidHA Shiny Spiny won't single-handedly save this game. People don't like fighting the enemies, how is a more powerful version of a Spiny save this game?