Jen Double Sound Doublesound Fuzz Wah 1970
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- Quick demo of a Jen Double Sound Fuzz Wah.
These are unusual in that the fuzz and wah when both on run in parallel rather than fuzz into wah or wah into fuzz, the result is quite a different sounding fuzz,. The wah is a standard red fasel from the early 1970's . recorded via an old STC 4035 mic
No it is not parallel, it is series, the fuzz part first, then into the wah, very normal, not unusual at all. I owned one of these, and am looking at the schematic right now. What you are hearing is fuzz going thru a wah, thats all. This pedal is basically a fuzzface feeding a vox wah, very simple basic sound
hi.. take a look inside an early version like this one and specifically the 8 pin switch which is not like the schematics you see which have regular switching. cheers.
@@HanfordTapeSessions - First off I dont think yours is parallel, it sounds just like the standard early series one I had...just fuzz thru wah. Secondly early versions didnt have the 8 pins as that is what I had (early non 8 pin). Thirdly if there are any para someone must have miswired them either from factory or a wrong repair or mod attempt, as I have never seen or heard any stock para, makes no sense except mistake. I have seen many for sale modded or repaired so room for errors. They are around 50ish+ years old, lots of time to have been worked on by people without schematics. Those 8 pin switches can be confusing for novices to wire up, I have a few vintage schaller wahs that use those 8 pins, just did mods on one of them, great switches, nice to have spares for use in other projects. Would like to see pic of yours inside. Also factory schematic of 8 pin one
@@RocknJazzer I have a Jen Doublesound Super, I made a schematic of it years ago with DIYGuitarist, the website is now gone. On mine, the fuzz and wah inputs are connected together when the DPDT fuzz switch is set to fuzz. So mine is 100% in parallel.
The wah circuit is identical to the original Cry Baby, with a white fasel inducter. The fuzz circuit is almost identical to the original Vox distortion booster, which later became the fuzz face. It has 2x BC238 silicon transistors.
I made a replica from my schematic. I also built the fuzz circuit standalone using BC548 transistors, I had to add a 0.22uF capacitor in parallel to the 0.1uF output cap on the output, to make it sound the same as the original, as in my Jen, the input and output caps are connected in parallel. I added a 50k pot to the input of the fuzz, a good mod to control the amount of fuzz. Turning down it makes it less square wave, more like distortion, good for full chords. Analogman does this also for his sunface fuzzes, an internal trimpot.
Edit: Also mine has a 6 pin DPDT for the fuzz toggle, and a 3 pin for the wah stomp foot switch. NOT true bypass.
@@franktriggs Thanks, I was talking about regular doublesound, not one called a "super" doublesound (which I never heard of) so yeah a super may be different but I would like to hear it for proof its parallel, which I doubt, but there are no demos anywhere of a super one, only the regular ones which are series. Because basically a wah in parallel with anything will be very weak and not sound like wah much if at all, because the broadband non wah signal of fuzz or clean or whatever that is in parallel would dominate over a wah or other filter in parallel, that is the reason very few EQ's are used in parallel because they dont do much.
@@RocknJazzer Here's a 17 minute demo of my Jen Double Sound Super, I recorded this 10 years ago: ua-cam.com/video/LVHRjjfSyaI/v-deo.html
I'll make a new video over the weekend, show the guts of the pedal, test inputs of fuzz and wah with multi-meter to prove fuzz and wah are both connected at input jack.
Edit: P.S. As you may hear, like you described, the wah is VERY subtle, acts more like a filter which controls harmonics and nastyness of the fuzz, you can hardly hear wah effect. It sounds great though, cleans up really nice with guitar volume.
I don’t understand what fuzz is on before you activate the wah switch 🤔 , cause before that point it sound really
Amazing
bravo, il pdale è bllo ma anch tu lo sai suonar benissimo-bellissima dmo
Does anyone know how to date these Jen pedals? I've just found the old original pot from mine. Was very corroded, just spent some time cleaning it up. Centralab is etched below the spindle side. On the back of pot is BA811-66-70. I've looked up date codes, and it doesn't match with any Centralab pot I can find. It should start with 134 for a Centralab make. And when did they first make white fasel inductors? As that's what mine has. Cheers.
That is not a date code, but a gibson part number. your pot might be a replacement, those series were used in gibson guitars of the 60s and 70s. Now that you mention the pot, I may be doubting if your pedal was messed with and not originally parallel after all, but rewired that way by mistake by whoever messed with it and put in the gibson pot who knows when. I bet the orig pot went scratchy and all he had in the 70s was a gibson pot from an old guitar lying around.
@@RocknJazzer Stuart Castledine from wah-wah dot co dot uk, who is a wah expert (he makes the Colorsound re-issues), thought it was original. It's 100k with a ICAR taper, so not a guitar pot. The replacement Stuart sent me has identical taper as the old one. He makes pots and inductors by hand to replicate the originals.
Double sound kind ‘ve did that today with parametric eq like yours better🤩🎸
Is this manufactured in 1970?
hi this one is from about 1970-1973
Buy some shoes.. we're here for guitar pedals, not a tofu picnic on a che tapestry
Please su.