Still grinding ramps like a street skater?....Try it like this!!!!

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  • Опубліковано 15 лип 2022
  • There's a big difference between a street 50/50 and a ramp 50/50. Here is how they should be done!
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  • @mattsuncin
    @mattsuncin Рік тому +14

    The reality to doing 5050 is, if you want to be good at them, you need to learn how to lock in both ways and come in on transition either way it locks in. It’ll take some time to get consistent on how you lock in, but a good skater can come in from either positioning comfortably. It’s all person preference, but I’ve found for shorter grinds or corner grinds I like to be cross locked, but if I’m going for a long 5050 that may how some kinks to it, it’s much easy to stay locked in on top either heel or toe side.

    • @user-sw1wq8lh2w
      @user-sw1wq8lh2w 6 місяців тому

      TOE SIDE????? man, that sounds awful feeling. I hate those on transition

  • @fuckmyego
    @fuckmyego Рік тому +6

    private skatepark confirmed. I'm so happy for you , Ben. Seems like you're really killing it at life. I wonder if your kids realize their middle-aged carpenter dad is so lit.

  • @gromitmitten7803
    @gromitmitten7803 Рік тому +7

    Your explained this perfectly. I've been struggling for months on how to get a proper lock in on these. Thank you Ben!

  • @liggerz87
    @liggerz87 Рік тому +1

    Loved the video I can't even go down a ramp and loved every minute of it thank you Ben for what you do for the skating community

  • @cavf88
    @cavf88 Рік тому +3

    It’s just so counter intuitive from a street POV. I just started learning mini ramp and it’s such a different world!

  • @seansiquig
    @seansiquig Рік тому +5

    your friend is learning the same exact tricks i just started to try out this week for the first time ever!! i’m just now trying out my first ever frontside stalls, so this video was perfectly-timed to be uploaded!!! thanks ben!!

  • @tommyvi77
    @tommyvi77 Рік тому +2

    Thanks for doing this video. I've been struggling with fs 50/50 and just the stall for a long time. Backside I'm good at both. I tried to convince a fried of mine who's doing backside full on the the ramp that it's a lot easier and nicer when you're locked in not full on the ramp. He wouldn't believe me. I'll send him this video, this might change his mind. Please do more of those videos, they are always helpful, I learned a lot from you 8)

  • @varneycantodea237
    @varneycantodea237 Рік тому +3

    I had not given this a thought. But now got one more thing to worry about.. thanks a lot Ben!!! Lol have a great one Ben always sending you the best!!

  • @LowEndMarauder
    @LowEndMarauder Рік тому +2

    Adriano showing some great progression on the mini ramp!

  • @_barnac
    @_barnac Рік тому +1

    i like this, you showed us all there is to know (pretty much lol ) about skate setups so only makes sense to move on to actual trick '''tips''

  • @peps1mega
    @peps1mega Рік тому +2

    I definitely needed this. I've been trying to fs 50-50 around a corner ramp but always going the safe option way up on top but I couldn't figure out how to get more in the ramp without slipping from under my heels (death). Cheers

  • @FlukeHuman
    @FlukeHuman Рік тому

    always wondered about this lock in. just what i needed! thanks ben

  • @joerodriguez1797
    @joerodriguez1797 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the great tips, I'm trying to learn them at 50.

  • @hectorjuarez6723
    @hectorjuarez6723 Рік тому

    Crazy I was looking for this today, I found some old video earlier and than this popped up which is more relevant and by one of my favorite UA-camrs

  • @rhysmartin210
    @rhysmartin210 Рік тому

    Happy to see you back, bro!

  • @highjinksfootage
    @highjinksfootage Рік тому

    Huge! Fan. Back in the day you’re brother was my favorite skater in the mosaic vid

  • @chriscas-ToolAficionado
    @chriscas-ToolAficionado Рік тому

    Thanks, I never knew the origins for the "50-50" name!
    That was helpful and I'm gonna try it out to see if it comes back for me. I don't think I've done one in 25 years.

  • @vinnyplace1269
    @vinnyplace1269 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the upload 🤙

  • @BlackMarketHoney
    @BlackMarketHoney Рік тому +15

    I think it is just personal preference. You are cross locking. Jeff Grosso did that, so it must be ok! Personally I think cross locking looks and feels strange on a frontside grind.
    I am always on the heel side of my trucks for frontside and backside grinds. With frontside, my toe side wheels are on the deck when I ride mini ramp, but are raised when I ride bowl as the speed keeps my trucks on an angle, as with the true 50 50 description you mentioned.

  • @karimamghar1712
    @karimamghar1712 Рік тому

    Hahah love the bro vs dad comparisons keep them coming Ben

  • @azazelreficulmefistofelicu7158

    I was curious about that. I saw that nowadays its done that way and thought it was an influence from skating round bars. Now I know better. Thanks.

    • @bendegros
      @bendegros  Рік тому +2

      I would say transition skating is what originally influenced round rail skating but there is a generation or two that didn’t get much transition influence who probably learned to skate rails before transition. I’m kind of in the second group.

  • @riverside4339
    @riverside4339 Рік тому

    really instructive, thanks man ! 👍

  • @gvfefvuv6058
    @gvfefvuv6058 Рік тому

    Glad to see your videos Ben :)

  • @mwboost
    @mwboost Рік тому

    Makes sense. Nice size ramp as well.

  • @bentlee6816
    @bentlee6816 Рік тому

    That mini ramp looks smooth!👍

  • @ian_davidson
    @ian_davidson Рік тому

    Thanks for the video and nice mini ramp!

  • @mouthgina3213
    @mouthgina3213 Рік тому +1

    Dunks being skated is such a refreshing sight 😊

  • @138FrOsTy138
    @138FrOsTy138 Рік тому +4

    Gonna try these like this next time I skate, I feel like I was the other way round never really skated ledges until learning front side axle stall/5050 grinds on tranny which massively helped my ledge game

    • @ianturnbow7011
      @ianturnbow7011 Рік тому +2

      Interesting. My sequence was fs ledge 50-50s, bs transition 50-50s/carves, then rail fs 50-50s. I think learning on ledges was easier than starting with transition grinds and stalls.

  • @adamsvette
    @adamsvette 3 місяці тому

    I've been doing those kinds of frontside 5050s for 20 years, and I've always hated my frontside 5050s. Can't wait to try this

  • @carlosripolles4826
    @carlosripolles4826 Рік тому

    Cool vid! Btw nice FA shorts

  • @JoelSimbrow
    @JoelSimbrow Рік тому +1

    def my favourite video you've made so far thank you. just knowing the origin of 50/50 is going to help me a lot, and the rest of the instruction is super helpful too. great ramp. did you build it? can I ride it? dimensions? I'm learning to skate at 50 and my goal is to come somewhere close to what you guys are doing there. but I don't understand why you're not sweating

  • @AustinKorte
    @AustinKorte Рік тому +48

    What are the dimensions of that ramp? Looks perfect. I'm planning on getting a mini ramp in the future.

    • @pirate6723
      @pirate6723 Рік тому +2

      Not sure, wild guess is prolly around 3 feet high, 12 feet in width, and 18-20 feet long including the top deck and everything

    • @Gatossso
      @Gatossso Рік тому +1

      I had exactly the same question as soon as I saw it. I am planning to try and build a miniramp from some scrap I have and this looks like the perfect size!

    • @calebzphillips
      @calebzphillips Рік тому +6

      If those sheets are 4x8, it's 16' wide. I have a 8' wide 3' miniramp and it's too narrow to really get into a grind.

  • @dansours7157
    @dansours7157 Рік тому

    I also think looser trucks help get into grinds. Super ripping fun ramp. One of my favorite mini ramp grinds is a back 5-0 as a set up to build speed. Your bs 5-0 is super nice!

  • @MarcelNinety
    @MarcelNinety Рік тому +1

    The finest skater there is ⚡

  • @danbuschert
    @danbuschert Рік тому

    Another great video!

  • @amberruby4896
    @amberruby4896 Рік тому

    This is exactly what I'm trying to work on, I am so use to locking in with my toes it's like I'm starting from the beginning again haha

  • @MrJasonodonnell
    @MrJasonodonnell Рік тому

    I have always used coping like a Ledge, there are some advantages as you can maneuver into other positions, I think tomorrow I will play about with the crosslock idea.

  • @Leadpaintwalls
    @Leadpaintwalls Рік тому +5

    fa shorts AND dunks this man getting money

  • @Habeev07
    @Habeev07 Рік тому +2

    8" Cal7 natural wood grain board
    Indy stage 11 139's
    52mm green Spitfire Formula four classics
    Shake Junt green/gold triple OG's abec-7 bearings
    Gold 1" Pig hardware
    vintage clear Pig 1/8" riser
    I would be skating my 20 year old 7.6 Venture Awake Highs or Stage 8 Indy 129's... but I recently found them both and they are still too nice and nostalgic for me to wanna skate and keep scratching up. They arent ground down much at all and I kinda wanna preserve them for historys sake. Cleaned em up with a full dismantle/sos pad/new bushing (conicals ; ) just like the stage 8's came with). There was also some hardly worn 52mm Flip wheels - classic shape with clear urethane and black triangle cores on one of the 2 pairs of trucks I found. Nostalgia is real - I dont wanna skate em - just preserve the early 00's vibes.

  • @habitat245
    @habitat245 Рік тому +7

    My whole life I thought it was called a 5050 because both trucks are grinding. In my mind I always just assumed it was because it’s 50% front truck 50% back truck I guess. That’s why I figured a 5-0 was called that, because it was only one truck. You learn something new everyday haha.

    • @solidbluebrian
      @solidbluebrian Рік тому +1

      Same!

    • @BlackMarketHoney
      @BlackMarketHoney Рік тому +1

      I thought that too.

    • @chris73brown
      @chris73brown Рік тому

      Id stick w what u & almost everyone thought. Not to sure about that other theory of orgin. 1st time lve heard that. Not too sure if lm falling for that one. Could be something he thought of. Would love to see actual proof of the real orgin of name. Im now very interested

    • @danielkonrad1444
      @danielkonrad1444 Рік тому

      It is called 5-0 because of the Police Car engines, i dont remember the full Story. "5-0!" Ment the cops are coming. (I did read this in a Magazine in 1990-2000 era).

    • @davo4hollin707
      @davo4hollin707 Рік тому

      Me too

  • @subieracer005
    @subieracer005 Рік тому +2

    Hmmmm, never really even though about how i grind till now... but i totally do it like a street skater. lol. Love me a good Krooked deck too!

  • @olkenn
    @olkenn Рік тому +8

    Backside is definitely dad, I know this because it’s my go to. I want to be more bro but I’m just too dad 🤷

  • @FaustTry
    @FaustTry Рік тому +1

    The skate world needs a Caruso - Degros video!

  • @harrisonshoup2784
    @harrisonshoup2784 Рік тому

    Hey Ben, your channel makes me want to be the best 35 year old skater I can be. Here's an odd request - order a complete - any deck you want - from tgm skateboards and do a review on their shop hardware: Core brand trucks, shop wheels and bearings. I want your opinion and you'd help out a lot of people who want to start seriously skating on a budget

  • @emiliocalise4699
    @emiliocalise4699 Рік тому

    Thank you

  • @JossPretty
    @JossPretty Рік тому

    Ahh, I've been doing wrong haha. Awesome tips

  • @frater_niram
    @frater_niram Рік тому

    very interesting

  • @FuckOnYouTube
    @FuckOnYouTube Рік тому

    needed this

  • @sebjii9855
    @sebjii9855 Рік тому

    needed this video rn

  • @tail8666
    @tail8666 Рік тому

    Thanks, I think I've been doing fs 50s comfortably wrong for years, gonna try cross lock next time 😅

  • @sleepydog4205
    @sleepydog4205 Рік тому

    thanks man

  • @shrimpbunt
    @shrimpbunt Рік тому

    God dammit, I love you Ben. Where was this tip 5 years ago?? 😂😂

  • @AwareWolfOnWheels
    @AwareWolfOnWheels Рік тому

    Amazing tutorial, I wish I had the balls to skate ramp.

    • @Codisrocks
      @Codisrocks Рік тому

      It's the least scary thing to skate. Now flatground, that's terrifying.

  • @jessieLeerodriguez0
    @jessieLeerodriguez0 Рік тому

    ALL AROUND PERFECT SKATING AND ADVICE! IM A SUBSCRIBER! LETS GET SOME MILLIONS OF SUBSCIBERS! WELL WISHISES BRO! 🙏🙌

  • @kashiro2492
    @kashiro2492 Рік тому +1

    Woo missed ur uplands

  • @nigeldutru109
    @nigeldutru109 Рік тому +11

    I think 50 50 came from using both trucks it then morphed i to 5-0 grind being the new name for stand up grind. Not ramp position .
    I am 55 was Canada's pro for 86 expo world championships and was on Santa Cruz team so I was right there at the time even earlier ,skated since 8yrs old. Just sayin'........
    I watch your vids they are proper!!
    I ground Vanderhoof vert pool coping this year. F.Y.W.S.S. is my crew. Totonto

    • @chris73brown
      @chris73brown Рік тому +1

      Cool man. Yes 50 50 is both trucks but 5-0 is just back truck. Its not the new name for a stand up 50 50. However alot of people just say 50 in short for 50 50. From what youve done l know u know this. Just correcting something u prob accidentally wrote. Summary: 50 50 (fifty fifty) is both trucks & 5-O (five o) is only the back truck. 👍

    • @nigeldutru109
      @nigeldutru109 Рік тому +1

      @@chris73brown pointless picky me meant to say back truck grinds that were not slash style were called stand up grinds for a long time before I ever heard it called a 5 0 grind. I just assumed the 5 worked its name into stand up after, as I heard 50 50 long before 5oh grinds. But that's me n my world ,there are lots of scenes. We called backside pivots Burlingtons for a long time all depends where you were I guess. Cheers

    • @chris73brown
      @chris73brown Рік тому +1

      @@nigeldutru109 👍

  • @liam_dawson
    @liam_dawson Рік тому

    I lock in like a vert skater using my glorious thunder trucks !

  • @nervousbreakdown1108
    @nervousbreakdown1108 Рік тому

    That is a perfect mini ramp

  • @MikeRawbertson
    @MikeRawbertson Рік тому

    i think this has some practical application for how you have to attack curbs too

  • @patrickjohnson7401
    @patrickjohnson7401 Рік тому

    I used to like to wear a beanie pulled down low while skating mini ramp. Forceing my focus down on my feet, board, and ramp. Also to block out any other riders in my field of vision standing on the deck. Putting me in my personal zone mentally.

  • @LesnoyJmors
    @LesnoyJmors Рік тому

    Cool

  • @highjinksfootage
    @highjinksfootage Рік тому

    Very helpful info to me cause my front 50s on tranny have always sucked

  • @kevurard
    @kevurard Рік тому

    I like the look of that style frontside but...I prefer both heel/wheel locked on backside grinds

  • @williambo5989
    @williambo5989 Рік тому

    perfect timing i just found a great halfpipe spot that nobody goes all concrete.

  • @Exfildeeznutz
    @Exfildeeznutz Рік тому

    I’ve always thought about it like a smith grind where you barely tap the front truck on

  • @TheMarzelda
    @TheMarzelda Рік тому

    Perfekt guide

  • @MikeRawbertson
    @MikeRawbertson Рік тому

    god damn you are so good🙏

  • @fiore_adriano
    @fiore_adriano Рік тому

    Definitely bro

  • @airbus-driver
    @airbus-driver Рік тому

    That ramp looks perfect for old dude like us. What is the height and radius of transition?

  • @fresh-er8427
    @fresh-er8427 Рік тому

    That SB retail or resell price bruh? Looks 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 on u

  • @ZackDowdy
    @ZackDowdy Рік тому

    I like the street skater version, fully locked on top lol.

  • @EatPsychedelics
    @EatPsychedelics Рік тому

    Man there is not a publicly accessible half pipe or mini pipe anywhere near me. Used to live close to Hazard Co. In GA but they done went and closed. The free outdoor parks are overcrowded, and typically only have bowls, and street skating areas. I would Love to have a mini pipe in the backyard one day. Would put hours and hours into that bad boy.

  • @jcs0009
    @jcs0009 Рік тому

    Fine 😜

  • @andrew-zr1pf
    @andrew-zr1pf Рік тому

    Ben do you find you have less truck slip on coping with Ventures than Indy's?. I had Ventures in the 90's and had 50 grinds down and would just have both trucks slightly on the heel side of the king pin for bs 50 grinds and would never get truck slip. Trying to relearn them with Indy's the same way and get truck slip everytime. The indys are even wore down pretty good. Maybe my coping back then was softer and that's why?.

  • @jm505
    @jm505 Рік тому

    I can do BS locked either way, but prefer back toe front heel. I can grind longer and have greater confidence coming back in. It’s also much more like a BS Smith/monty. I do also like back heel front toe - very floaty and more like a 5-0.

  • @khrissyboy69
    @khrissyboy69 Рік тому

    I think you should do a trick tip on pivot fakies. Such a rad casual trick that I’ve never been able to figure out

    • @bendegros
      @bendegros  Рік тому

      I need to get them again first.

    • @zacharymorgan9526
      @zacharymorgan9526 Рік тому

      That's a trick that after 22 years of heavy crossover skating I could never get!! Even rock to fake was a hairy trick to me ,always had to rock to pivot!!

  • @Sirpaco666
    @Sirpaco666 Рік тому

    that first backside 5-0 is extra buttery!

  • @yurahaltura
    @yurahaltura Рік тому

    Ben with the FA shorts and dunks?

  • @stevesy45
    @stevesy45 Рік тому

    That ramp looks so fucking perfect jeez

  • @jon5one7
    @jon5one7 Рік тому

    I wish I could go back to 08. Save myself from a heavy hang up.

  • @ijustknife
    @ijustknife Рік тому +1

    First I love you Ben

  • @Labergemusic
    @Labergemusic Рік тому

    This video should have been filmed at the new mini at Firefighters Park in Maple Ridge :)

  • @REPTILE.FOREVER
    @REPTILE.FOREVER Рік тому +11

    Do you know the dimensions of that mini ramp? It looks so perfect

    • @TheMlvswoll
      @TheMlvswoll Рік тому +8

      Ben had a pro carpenter build it for him to make it perfect. Lol

    • @bendegros
      @bendegros  Рік тому +13

      I know a guy ;)

    • @Inyuasha6
      @Inyuasha6 Рік тому +10

      @@bendegros very unhelpful ben, drop the dimentions

    • @pscaught
      @pscaught Рік тому +2

      He mentions it in some other videos. I believe 3.5' tall, 16' wide, 6' flat and 6' radius

    • @drad2856
      @drad2856 Рік тому

      Loved the video! The info is really helpful and also the vibe of just two friends skating makes it enjoyful to watch :)

  • @ptwob
    @ptwob Рік тому

    hey guys, he's skating them dunks

  • @MCrObOt18
    @MCrObOt18 Рік тому

    This is the dimension ramp I wish I had

  • @ryanrowe1975
    @ryanrowe1975 Рік тому +1

    Stability on the board and holding close to the rail and staying into transitions to improving the talent of practice and better progressions to keep that balance at the right level of movement and energy!

  • @TTEREVE
    @TTEREVE Рік тому +1

    dam ben you sponsored by nike now brothers always in fresh pairs haha

    • @bendegros
      @bendegros  Рік тому +1

      Nope. Just spent too much money a few times.

  • @boofy_fubu
    @boofy_fubu Рік тому +2

    Sheesh I thought the double heel was the “proper” way 😭 I never really hang up but learning that oomf movement out to not hang that back wheel was….painful. I think I can aim and try this out cause I got FS smiths pretty solid. Thanks Ben.

    •  Рік тому

      What is that "oomf moment" you're talking about? :) Can you please explain?

    • @boofy_fubu
      @boofy_fubu Рік тому +2

      @ the “oomf” I’m referring to is that little movement you would do when your like stationary on a ledge or coping balancing on your trucks and you have to like use your hips and your entire body to kind of push away from the ledge/coping so you can continue your line/trick. I call it the “oomf” because that’s almost the sound your making when you start learning this integral movement.

    • @jamieertley5362
      @jamieertley5362 Рік тому +1

      There's no such thing as the proper way. There's the proper way FOR YOU :)

    • @BlackMarketHoney
      @BlackMarketHoney Рік тому +1

      It is personal preference. I double heel because it feels more stable to me.

    • @chris73brown
      @chris73brown Рік тому

      Double heel is proper when stalling a back 50 & coming in on a front

  • @user-dt3vq2wd9d
    @user-dt3vq2wd9d 3 місяці тому

    Eu tenho essa duas manhas 😂😂😂😂

  • @NeilHesterSkateboarding
    @NeilHesterSkateboarding Рік тому

    It might seem unusual but I do my backsides exactly how you say a fs should be. (i.e. the opposite of how you do a BS) Rear foot toe side wheel against the coping and front foot heel side wheel against the coping. I learned this naturally and it lent itself to grinding around bowl corners very easily (see my profile picture or some of my videos ) - exactly how you explained for your FS explanation but a mirror view.
    It seems to me the way you do your bs mostly comes from street skaters or the post 2000 generation of skaters I don’t remember every seeing it that way before the street skating boom of the 2000’s so I’m presuming it came from people skating ledges.
    Bitd it was most often a straight 5050 with no diagonal lock it would be done going much faster and a quick in and out , if you were going for a longer one you would just go faster and that still pretty evident today if you watch vert skaters, you don’t really see anyone hanging off their back wheel like that.
    So there’s a few nuanced differences depending on how you learned and what your background and skate discipline history is.
    But you are right in the sense of rolling across the top of the platform isn’t a true 5050 but I agree it’s great gateway to learning.

  • @JoshuaJeffersFL
    @JoshuaJeffersFL Рік тому

    Mini Logo truck review? Soon? Maybe?

  • @Pompazo94
    @Pompazo94 Рік тому

    Hello Ben, this is off topic from the video but I was wondering if you knew the difference from TEAM thunder trucks and regular thunder trucks. I’ve also heard the rumor that all thunder are made Hi now.

    • @RollingRodent
      @RollingRodent Рік тому +1

      TEAM has cast BP, and also regular thunder, but there are TEAM hollow, which means cast BP w/ hollow axle. little bit lighter and same height as regular ones.
      there are no more thunder high or low, they make it one height only, but as width goes up, height also goes up, not like indy all 55mm/53.5mm.
      145 147 148 149
      50 50 52 52 mm
      all forged BP should lower by 1~1.5mm
      go to their website to see more

  • @sellout8k
    @sellout8k Рік тому

    Jorts and dunks? Ben is getting trendy and I kinda like it

  • @AustinKorte
    @AustinKorte Рік тому

    I'll try this but I heel lock both trucks and can grind for days and it feels fine getting out of it.

    • @bendegros
      @bendegros  Рік тому +1

      If you learn it cross lock it makes double heel side feel wrong. This is also the only way to do it safely on a spine.

    • @AustinKorte
      @AustinKorte Рік тому

      @@bendegros That makes sense, I wouldn't dare do it on a spine the way I lock.

  • @benlandis2739
    @benlandis2739 Рік тому +3

    i never had any problems coming back in off of heel side, and if i do cross lock front 50s it’s toe side in the back much more steez. you might as well be doing a smith if you’re cross locked toe side in the front in my opinion

  • @crystal-dn5ig
    @crystal-dn5ig Рік тому +1

    ben in dunks 😦😦

  • @ronniecreager2585
    @ronniecreager2585 Рік тому

    What dad denim shorts you got goin there Ben? Haha

    • @bendegros
      @bendegros  Рік тому

      More will be revealed in due time :)

  • @zuge5431
    @zuge5431 Рік тому

    Do a krooked board review

  • @mlgperson8798
    @mlgperson8798 Рік тому

    Those jorts r literally so cool

    • @bendegros
      @bendegros  Рік тому +1

      I’m actually kind of a fan of them

    • @FaustTry
      @FaustTry Рік тому

      @@bendegros Jorts, bro or dad? Being a short king, I could never rock Jorts.

  • @rickhart5612
    @rickhart5612 Рік тому

    Learn to deck both your rock n rolls those are a lot of fun