The respect shown by the Fijian players to President Michael D Higgins was heartwarming. They are tough as nails when the whistle is blown but gentlemen outside the game.
Re the ref decision not to award the Fijian's a try, i think she said that after consulting with lineman that ball was grounded short then knocked on. On a seperate note, massive respect to the Fijian's, as they met president Higgins they bowed. Just shows the character of the Fijian people. Thank u from an irish fan
There was something really nice about that. Those dude are huge but gentlemen to a man. Pity about the handbags at the end, may have been our fault (Ireland) 😳
@alanmulcahy7749 that was make understanding aswell, blew for knock on but decided to check to make sure try wasn't scored first. Overall I thought the ref was good and she took a big hit at one stage and took it like a champ, not sure I'd be up as quick if I got hit by one of tge Fijian forwards
As a Fiji fan, say what you will about moral victories but I’ll take 17 points all day. It’s Irelands time right now. We have a young team and the test rugby experience itself is super valuable. Congratulations Ireland.
Getting better and better. Not your day today. You get criticised for no structure, then get criticised when you add it. Keep on the structure path as flare is just in your DNA.
Fiji are my next favourite team after my home country of Ireland. Fiji showed a lot of respect today and it was very much appreciated. Ronan O'Gara has been on holidays to Fiji, and he has a lot of praise for your country and the people there.
The respect shown to our President by the Fijians should be talked about more. The Fijians are an incredible race of people. Massive respect from Eire.
I really liked watching Gus McCarthy, he seems quietly confident and I thought he had a good, solid game. I also loved his emotion during the National Anthem, nothing wrong with a few tears ☘💚🇮🇪
Huge respect to Fiji 🇫🇯 They bowed to Michael D Higgins and their fans even joined in during our anthem! Both the team and supporters really showed their class and character. Come visit Ireland anytime. They never gave up and really beat the shite out of some of our players, especially frawley lol wouldn't want to be his rib cage tomorrow 🤣 🇫🇯 🇮🇪 🏉
The Irish defence was awesome, they stood up to a huge Fiji team. So many new players given lots of time. If you thought Ireland were finished , think again.
Not sure I've seen that before. To see those big men take a knee to the wee leprechaun (no disrespect intended, he's an incredibly respected old man) was quite something. I once met and shook the hand of a previous Irish President, Patrick Hillery, in 1982. I bowed in respect, but the knee was neither required or expected. What those Fijians did was quite moving, to be honest, and I'm glad the Lansdowne crowd recognised it.
@ bit of a confused comment there Rosso, you called our president a leprechaun😆, and that is very disrespectful, to a head of state, however small his stature. Yes it was moving to see. Great admiration for the Fijian people.
good review. Sam Prendergast has a composure and calmness about him that instils confidence around him. His delayed flat pass is a joy to watch. Crowley is bulkier and has different attributes but there's a touch of class about Sam. Great debut from Gus mcCarthy too.
Prendergast was ok, not great. Lots of mistakes. Not the finished article by a long way, but great for him to get minutes. Could easily have been far fewer minutes because that tackle was idiotic and worthy of a red imo. (Gus McCarthy was incredible).
@@Camcolito agree about the tackle. his trademark delayed flat pass opened up the rush defence so often it was a joy to watch. he needs to bulk up a bit imho but you can tell he's not just shipping on the ball. he always passes with purpose and his ability to spot space out wide and nail the pass is underrated. we're lucky to have both him and Crowley in our squad.
cant tackle cant defend lucky with a cheap shot and not the only time he did it ,so calm he kicked a 10 meter kick out on the full missed conversions from the touch line ,threw at least 3 passes ,he will be great but will never be able to defend no bottle .
Bless him, he did get knocked around a fair bit, but it doesn’t it stop him, fair play to him. I thought he had a great game., and a try to go with it. ☘👍
I thought Prendergast close to being a red was lucky Ireland played some sparkling rugby at times. Some great young talent coming through. Andy Farrell doing great work
When Davidson called for the TMO she said i have grounded short and a knock on, which was from the fiji grounding it and rolling it forward a bit on the ground who any scrumhalf knows is a knock on
Game against Figi so don't want to get ahead of thongs. All-round good performance. Ireland are better when other provinces are involved. Ulster guys looked good. Ireland are better when the mix up the players. New #6 watch out for this guy, big and athletic, super impressive. Mc Carthy great game. What a future that guy has. I wish Farrel would give more opportunities to more players from all over Ireland.
6:14 his name is Michael D Higgins, he's our president of the Leprechauns. It wasn't a struggling Fijian side trying to play, its a matter that Ireland didn't allow them to play. Sam was class, the passing, 1, 2's and cross field kicks, bringing the ball to the line and slip. Making and taking tackles when A LOT of people said he wouldn't be able to.
Good match report and insightful comments. On a separate note, I did cringe a bit when you patronisingly referred to the "the wee chap" as a 'lovely elderly gentleman". He happens to be a distinguished intellectual, a poet and an extraordinary orator.
My thoughts on big Jacob: the big lad is BACK! He made a real impact coming off his wing into midfield, and if some of his supposedly more illustrious colleagues could pass, he was itching to let fly. Hanson butchered chances to give both Jacob and Cormac a score. Maybe I'm being hyper-critical, but although Aki rightly got MotM, there were at least two occasions where Jacob was steaming up on his left and Aki chose to go inside and take the contact, when Jacob only had one or two to beat had he received it. That's not a problem when his dander is up, as it clearly was. Particularly in this sort of match, just going into contact rather than rolling the dice to give it to a true strike winger; I thought those were real missed opportunities. I was left wondering, would Aki have made those passes if Lowe were outside him? Was there a lack of trust or familiarity? Oh, by the way, for all those anti-Stockdale genius posters in advance of the game - he didn't put a foot wrong in defence.
First time for new players. Just remember Johnny Sexton wasn’t really good on his Ireland exposure. Players will be phased when playing international rugby. What a brilliant place to do it. Well done AF! Ageing Ireland team refresh absolutely needed.
I think the Prendergast/Crowley debate is similar to the England Smith/Smith debate. Why not both? They're both young, talented and simply offer something different. Neither one is better than the other imo, just different styles.
That’s the issue with out half’s though, it’s hard to expect every other player in the back line to totally change out their style to suit during the game or week to week.
Crowley currently has bigger games under his belt including a URC final and a regular for Munster. As a Leinster fan, Prendergast needs is not at that level yet.
My thoughts on Izuchukwu: not sure what to make of it. He did OK and he didn't make any significant mistakes, so he didn't do himself any harm. But for the most part, the game just seemed to pass him by. I was getting frustrated by his lack of involvement as he has been a major ball carrier for Ulster, but then the light dawned: whether by design or not, the ball was hardly ever given to him to carry. Was this again, a subconscious result of the experienced players preferring to stick to the guys they normally play with? His carry stats will probably look poor, but it's hardly his fault if he's never picked out.
I think he played reasonably well in his first international, I would hope he is happy with his performance. I don't think that the coaching team would feed him to the wolves, by asking him to make the hard yards. The X factor is always there & available. I think he needs to keep improving on the basics to get into the matchday squad. There are some serious athletes competing for a few places (including Lions, world player of the year nominees, Ryan Baird, etc.). Hopefully he keeps improving & has many more days in Green.
@@alanmulcahy7749I wouldn't argue with many of your thoughts, but why not let him try to make a few hard yards in a game like this? It almost felt like they were keeping him in cotton wool at times. He doesn't need that. Maybe it's his body shape. He will get physically stronger as he matures, but despite being 6'7" and 18 stone, he somehow doesn't look like a proper beast. Maybe I'm over-analysing, but he, like Henderson, doesn't have the broad, high-set shoulders of a Brodie Retallick that make others look more imposing, nor does he have the square-set jaw of a Richie McCaw or a JVdF. But judge him on his actions. That'll all that matters.
@@RossoVerdeNero The Irish coaching team's man management is excellent. For every player's first cap, they try to keep the pressure off & allow them to ease their way into international rugby as gently as possible (not easy, given the pressure & hits !). They want people to concentrate on playing well - not trying to prove anything to anyone - "you deserve to be here, so just be yourself". He has that out of the way, so I reckon the coaching team now know they can bring him off the bench (a couple of points down with 10 minutes to go) & run a match winning strike move with him breaking the defense & Doris running a dummy line. His challenge is to get on the bench for the 6N...
Was most impressed with Sam P's passing. He will beef up as he has a big frame and will add muscle in the next few years. I think we see him as number 22 next week. I think Crowley will start.
@@x-latetv-x6816atrocious give me a break , take your head out of your arse, some forward passes “just” but some sublime passing. I suppose you think you get to score 8 tries passing atrociously 😂😂
@ yes they did but equally they scored 8 tries with some sublime passing. There was a totally different Irish team out there and many early injuries lots of position changes. There seems to be an ignorance about Ireland going on , but they turned up today and beat another tier 1 team easily. Fiji had won 6 of their last 7 games. Scotland beat them by a similar score with all their first team out and it was seen as a great win.
@@davidwalker2402 Scotland celebrate losing by a couple of tries at home to SA, that's not where we're at. It was a good performance and great to get minutes in the young guys.
My thoughts on the Young Prentender: he had a shocker at the start. A stupid shoulder to the head, rightly a yellow, could have been a red. As soon as he got back on, he kicked the ball dead while going for the corner, then 2 minutes later he kicked a straightforward one out on the full under no pressure. But, to be fair to the lad, he regrouped and looked the part for the rest of his game. Nothing special, but good experience for him. Perhaps the Dublin media will ease off on anointing him for a bit while he gains more experience.
@@SBSchwift You can sense the gritted teeth thru which it was typed. called out every tiny error and baying for a red card."nothing special"...these clows will be very very confused when they see him starting ahead of Jack very soon. i love it.
@EggchasersRugby he's a gentleman. Fantastic human rights activist, and a very good poet by all accounts. Lovely to see the respect between him and the Fijians
@@EggchasersRugbyHe's a very interesting man a human rights activist speaks fluent Spanish and French, he should not be around he was in the church in Nicragua when Archbishop Romero was murder with other by a death squad..he had a stroke in March and was very lucky again...Michael D Higgins has two years left as President, the respect shown him by the Fiji players was something to behold
I missed the first twenty minutes, so I may have missed something, but I think Hollie Davidson had a really good game. More consistent and attentive refereeing than I've seen recently. She needs to be careful with her positioning though, she'll get knocked out
I don't know the laws well enough (who does?), but O'Driscoll's point was that the mitigation of "not a high degree of danger" shouldn't have applied as it was deemed to be deliberate foul play. If that's true, then, even as an Irish fan, Im would have to wonder did he get a "home town big nation" benefit of doubt.
Could have been a red, it was a lazy tackle. Other than that there was a few times where he was undecided what to do, a sharper team would be all over him.
Ireland fan here and this was a much better game today. I felt for Fiji, were they just tired? Agree with you Tim we left several tries out there that went begging.
😮Im not looking forward to the incoming Irish 😕 hate on here.I thought Ireland deserved to win despite what the trolls will say.I think Figi are an exciting and really strong team.Great respect to Figi in the prelims for their courtesy 👏
The Fouling Fijians really sabotaged any chance they had with penalties. Ireland meanwhile had much better discipline. Shows you how critical that part of the game is.
The Fijians taking the knee for Mickey D would bring a tear to a glass eye.Lovely fellahs altogether. Only seconded by the performance of Gus McCarthy won't be long before he is pushing Dan Sheehan
I thought she had a decent enough game, although I do wonder about the experienced Irish legends saying that Prendergast should have had red. Sounds like she got that one wrong.
@RossoVerdeNero personally, I thought it was a yellow. However, she can't be faulted. She gave the yellow with an off-field review. Upon review, it remained a yellow. She did everything exactly right.
I also believe a yellow was appropriate, but that where we stop agreeing. Quinlan and Irish pundits were saying also that it could be upgraded and the ref was great. I’ve never found him remotely near as biased as the English commentators commentating on English games. It was knocked on. Good performance from Ireland but even with 8 tries, you were left feeling that the left 4 more behind. Irelands defence had more to do with the lack of Fijian attack than their efforts in trying to do so.
@ tbh I groaned when I saw Hollie was reffing the game BUT we have to give up and coming refs games like this to develop and she will improve over time. She’s very new to this level and I’m not sure Sam Grove white was a great refs assistant. I think some experienced refs on the line would have been more help to her.
@@hanoitripper1809 we could say the same about a few other refs as well. It’s tough as we’ve had a number of really good refs retire recently and the quality isn’t as good and as widely spread as it once was in my opinion. Plus I think the game needs something more than one ref at the professional level. It’s far from easy.
Short and lost forward was what was said. Hollie had a great game. Shes getting a lot of unjust grief online purely because shes a woman. Top young ref
You are correct It is Alan Quinlan on commentry on Virgin Media in Ireland... But he also thought that Sam Prendergast yellow could be upgraded to a 20 min red and nobody could complain.
Just a note: when you asked early on, "Why are you here?" referring to anybody who hadn't watched the match- I can't afford to watch the match, so im dependent on radio coverage for the game followed by your analysis afterwards. Then the next day i see snippets of the action on youtube. Like many fans who are only interested in rugby i cant afford these £30 a month sports channels. Keep up the good work and remember how much some of us fans depend on you!
Hansen’s non-forward pass hasn’t stopped Munster fans hammering him for it because they want the extremely one dimensional Calvin Nash ahead of him in the pecking order.
If roles were reversed and that was a Fijian... red for sure. It's the little things that can change momentum. For sure, Ireland was the better team and deserved the W. 4:53 I also feel they brushed over that vd Vlier finish... in the highlights, he definitely tries to dot down after 'losing' the ball.... TMO said,'It's fine...without the ref taking a loo
😂😂 yeah it's crazy lad, especially when some lad called Mbonobi starts giving Ireland shit... Hang on there for a minute Mbonobi, Ireland were fighting for your fucking human rights while that same team you support did apartheid to you... Those Mbonobi lads need a history lesson 😂
Such a wasted life. Ah well if our "bitterness" brings you joy, them please go ahead, keep scrolling. Somebody is bound to make you happy. Btw, 1st 4 times WC winners and No.1 ranked team. 😂💚💛🇿🇦
Was there for the game, have to say I did feel the ref was giving a lot of calls irelands way that shouldn’t have been. Lots of instances I saw Ireland players diving into rucks from the side or being in offside positions that weren’t called at all, and the ref told Hansen not to run after one breakdown as she wanted to stop play, but he ran and scored and she didn’t do anything. All this coming from a neutral fan too
@@GoldenbanjoDJbased on the rules he was lucky not to receive a red. Once you tuck your arm like he did it’s deemed as always illegal. There was no malice but he was fortunate not to receive a red
Irish commentary said Prendergast could have had a red card upgrade. No bias there. As for Alan Quinlan, I've heard he's a really good fellow from someone I know who met him, but I get what you're saying Tim. I rarely listen to him as it's uncomfortable. Somehow, he always brings it back to, "When I used to play for Munster in the good old days". The match could be Mongolia v Bangladesh, but Alan Quinlan will end up talking about Munster back in his playing days😂
I find Alan Quinlan to be reasonably fair. He thought Prendergast was luckily not to get a red. He was indeed lucky. Very foolish. He showed that he has some outstanding qualities - his passing that you referred to and his heads up rugby is very promising and he stays calm. Far from the finished article and needs more game time. The missed tries by Ireland were very frustrating.
Is it too early to say "we're back"? Probably. The test against the Aussies will give us a better idea. That said, Prendergast was more than competent at 10. Onwards and upwards.
Agreed. I think they made us look a lot better than we were. They really didn’t cause us too much hassle and I hope this team doesn’t thing they’ve solved everything and are back to their best.
Gus McCarthy such a freak. At times you thought he was a fly half. Actual fly half wasn’t bad either. What a delight to watch is Sam Prendergast. The true heir of Sexton. So creative and evasive. So composed and clean under pressure. For the Australians and other afl fans here. He reminds me of AFL star Nick Daicos. Also the sub bringing on a hooker for a 12. I love teams breaking the Rugby habits.
The hype about Prendergast and Daicos are definitely similar. Daicos is the AFL's second coming of Christ. In the AFL, it would have been a free to Daicos for the equivalent of that yellow card offense.
@ Haha. I am not a Collingwood fan you know and I agree that he is overprotected and the AFLs poster child. Still a terrific player, undeniable. The hype, the style of play, and even a bit of look. So much in common.
Prendergast is in the O'Gara/Sexton mould of not offering a running threat of his own. This is one reason I like Crowley, he offers Ireland a different dimension (Leinster fan btw)
Agree with this and it's the reason it won't grow outside a niche audience. the rules are very difficult to understand. Soccer, golf, tennis, even curling is so easy to understand TV viewers can engage with the drama unfolding. apart from a last minute drop goal or try, it's really hard to understand what's going on.
@deeperanddown "Interpretive" is in the application and attitude from WR and their ego is the problem. Son busy studying coaching and its been an interesting journey discovering just how inept and complicit WR truly have been, the rules are not the problem, its the story they keep selling to hide their ineptitude and the absolute absymal quality of refs they have been producing. The entire WR board needs to go for rugby, thats the real and ONLY change the sport needs, everything will flow naturally from there, a professional sport run by inept amatuers
1 set of rules for ireland and another set for the rest of the world. Ireland is where nz was a few years ago. Just do what they want and get away with it
Jesus, wtf are they teaching you in school these days. Literally the 4th person saying Figi instead of Fiji. It's only 4 letters! You can't all be dyslexic!
So right, I was watching the gamexandcwas waiting for Fiji to play their traditional brand of high risk offloading rugby.I think they only played out form their 22 late in the second half
1:30 Nail on the head. Of course you gotta get the fundamentals right, but it seemed like they just wanted to bosh through us. And they've the players to do that to a degree, but it fairly one dimensional from the usual chaos you got from Fiji.
Don't worry Tim, The irish president is michael d Higgins. He isn't prime minister and the beauty of this channel is that it comes off the cuff.. and it's rugby you are covering so no worries from this irish man
The cold weather might have played its part. Remember in the RWC it was in France in Autumn, more similar to the weather Fiji are used to. Or am i making excuses for Fiji?
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The respect shown by the Fijian players to President Michael D Higgins was heartwarming. They are tough as nails when the whistle is blown but gentlemen outside the game.
Yes, It was a joy to see. Thank you Fiji.
Well said
Re the ref decision not to award the Fijian's a try, i think she said that after consulting with lineman that ball was grounded short then knocked on. On a seperate note, massive respect to the Fijian's, as they met president Higgins they bowed. Just shows the character of the Fijian people. Thank u from an irish fan
There was something really nice about that. Those dude are huge but gentlemen to a man. Pity about the handbags at the end, may have been our fault (Ireland) 😳
Yes, She said short & knock on (therefore blew whistle). I think she is 1 of the better refs.
@alanmulcahy7749 that was make understanding aswell, blew for knock on but decided to check to make sure try wasn't scored first. Overall I thought the ref was good and she took a big hit at one stage and took it like a champ, not sure I'd be up as quick if I got hit by one of tge Fijian forwards
The ball was indeed grounded short - no try.
Agreed! But another factor is that they are so huge and he was so small that in order to shake his hand they probably had to bow!
As a Fiji fan, say what you will about moral victories but I’ll take 17 points all day. It’s Irelands time right now. We have a young team and the test rugby experience itself is super valuable. Congratulations Ireland.
@@Goldenship-h3w you guys played a brilliant game today 👏
Thank you, it was a good game. Fiji have so many exciting players, I wish you well, but half of me is thinking “not too soon please”
Getting better and better. Not your day today. You get criticised for no structure, then get criticised when you add it. Keep on the structure path as flare is just in your DNA.
@@bernieob9577 Nah they didn't. Fiji are a better side than what they showed today. Penalties killed them. But thanks to OP for the gracious comment.
Fiji are my next favourite team after my home country of Ireland.
Fiji showed a lot of respect today and it was very much appreciated. Ronan O'Gara has been on holidays to Fiji, and he has a lot of praise for your country and the people there.
The respect shown to our President by the Fijians should be talked about more. The Fijians are an incredible race of people. Massive respect from Eire.
President Michael D Higgins is loved by us , the fact that the fijians showed him such reverence only makes me love the Fijians even more.
I really liked watching Gus McCarthy, he seems quietly confident and I thought he had a good, solid game. I also loved his emotion during the National Anthem, nothing wrong with a few tears ☘💚🇮🇪
A bit of a show pony
@@KewKew-do3kq what does that mean?
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Kew Kew 🤡
Huge respect to Fiji 🇫🇯 They bowed to Michael D Higgins and their fans even joined in during our anthem! Both the team and supporters really showed their class and character. Come visit Ireland anytime. They never gave up and really beat the shite out of some of our players, especially frawley lol wouldn't want to be his rib cage tomorrow 🤣
🇫🇯 🇮🇪 🏉
always love Fiji rugby and fans..
Great people ❤
The young lads were class. Great to see Gus,Cormac,Cian and Casey getting more game time. Ireland abu.
Casey is just brilliant 👏 well done lads
So gutsy, just gets in there.
I thought he was Man of the Match.
@barryb90 absolutely 💯
Stringer used to be called Scrappy Doo and I think Casey is of the same stuff. Took some serious hits and kept coming back for more.
If Casey didn't take a step from the base of the ruck he would be a lot more effective.
The Irish defence was awesome, they stood up to a huge Fiji team. So many new players given lots of time. If you thought Ireland were finished , think again.
There'll be some very sore bodies in the morning.
How good was Mc Carthy to day on his debut, absolutely brilliant
Thank you Tim for sharing your passion for rugby
No need to apologise for not knowing our presidents name, but appreciate it buddy ❤. Beautiful respect also shown by the Fijian's towards him!
Thank you to Fiji for the respect to our head of state, president Higgins 🙏🏼
Not sure I've seen that before. To see those big men take a knee to the wee leprechaun (no disrespect intended, he's an incredibly respected old man) was quite something. I once met and shook the hand of a previous Irish President, Patrick Hillery, in 1982. I bowed in respect, but the knee was neither required or expected. What those Fijians did was quite moving, to be honest, and I'm glad the Lansdowne crowd recognised it.
@ bit of a confused comment there Rosso, you called our president a leprechaun😆, and that is very disrespectful, to a head of state, however small his stature. Yes it was moving to see. Great admiration for the Fijian people.
First 2 Ireland tries straight from the Andrew Goodman playbook. Good to see the new attack coach having an impact.
The same play happened when Ireland played New Zealand at Soldier Field in Chicago 2016 with Robbie Henshaw crashing over.
good review. Sam Prendergast has a composure and calmness about him that instils confidence around him. His delayed flat pass is a joy to watch. Crowley is bulkier and has different attributes but there's a touch of class about Sam. Great debut from Gus mcCarthy too.
Prendergast was ok, not great. Lots of mistakes. Not the finished article by a long way, but great for him to get minutes. Could easily have been far fewer minutes because that tackle was idiotic and worthy of a red imo.
(Gus McCarthy was incredible).
@@Camcolito agree about the tackle. his trademark delayed flat pass opened up the rush defence so often it was a joy to watch. he needs to bulk up a bit imho but you can tell he's not just shipping on the ball. he always passes with purpose and his ability to spot space out wide and nail the pass is underrated. we're lucky to have both him and Crowley in our squad.
@@ChaunceyGardner100why needs to buulk up,those fijians were monsters and they never layed a glove on him or rattled him.
@@ChaunceyGardner100 True.
cant tackle cant defend lucky with a cheap shot and not the only time he did it ,so calm he kicked a 10 meter kick out on the full missed conversions from the touch line ,threw at least 3 passes ,he will be great but will never be able to defend no bottle .
Casey was flying it. Literally and figuratively.
Bless him, he did get knocked around a fair bit, but it doesn’t it stop him, fair play to him. I thought he had a great game., and a try to go with it. ☘👍
Casey played a blinder.
Tim, great to see Ireland 🇮🇪 back to normal . The president is Michael D Higgins
Sam delays his pass long enough to cause defenders to bite in. This competition will make Crowley better. Great to have competition at 10
I've never seen Crowley or many fly halfs execute that skill as well as Prendergast. Larkham was the last guy I've seen do it that well
@DM-rp9ik I'm a Leinster fan so all for Sam being the future answer to Johnny. However, we need two good 10s.
@savagej2 Crowley is a very good 10 I'm not saying he's bad.
I thought Prendergast close to being a red was lucky Ireland played some sparkling rugby at times. Some great young talent coming through. Andy Farrell doing great work
When Davidson called for the TMO she said i have grounded short and a knock on, which was from the fiji grounding it and rolling it forward a bit on the ground who any scrumhalf knows is a knock on
But it was short
@@EolasColas called knock on Tim
That explains stopping the game. (Not sure it was knocked on, but makes sense!)
Game against Figi so don't want to get ahead of thongs. All-round good performance. Ireland are better when other provinces are involved. Ulster guys looked good. Ireland are better when the mix up the players. New #6 watch out for this guy, big and athletic, super impressive. Mc Carthy great game. What a future that guy has. I wish Farrel would give more opportunities to more players from all over Ireland.
Thank you fiji . What a wonderful people . I'm definitely going there for a holiday..
Big Love to the Fijian player's for the Respect that they showed to President Michael D Higgins .. Thank you ❤ 👏👏👏☘️
Welcome to Fijian players snd fans such humble people.exciting game big hits and niggle.
6:14 his name is Michael D Higgins, he's our president of the Leprechauns.
It wasn't a struggling Fijian side trying to play, its a matter that Ireland didn't allow them to play.
Sam was class, the passing, 1, 2's and cross field kicks, bringing the ball to the line and slip. Making and taking tackles when A LOT of people said he wouldn't be able to.
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Good match report and insightful comments. On a separate note, I did cringe a bit when you patronisingly referred to the "the wee chap" as a 'lovely elderly gentleman". He happens to be a distinguished intellectual, a poet and an extraordinary orator.
My thoughts on big Jacob: the big lad is BACK! He made a real impact coming off his wing into midfield, and if some of his supposedly more illustrious colleagues could pass, he was itching to let fly. Hanson butchered chances to give both Jacob and Cormac a score. Maybe I'm being hyper-critical, but although Aki rightly got MotM, there were at least two occasions where Jacob was steaming up on his left and Aki chose to go inside and take the contact, when Jacob only had one or two to beat had he received it. That's not a problem when his dander is up, as it clearly was. Particularly in this sort of match, just going into contact rather than rolling the dice to give it to a true strike winger; I thought those were real missed opportunities. I was left wondering, would Aki have made those passes if Lowe were outside him? Was there a lack of trust or familiarity?
Oh, by the way, for all those anti-Stockdale genius posters in advance of the game - he didn't put a foot wrong in defence.
Jacob looked great I thought. He was unlucky not to get on the scoreboard himself. Good to have him back in the mix.
If youve followed the U20s you'll know all about Gus. Class operator.
First time for new players. Just remember Johnny Sexton wasn’t really good on his Ireland exposure. Players will be phased when playing international rugby. What a brilliant place to do it. Well done AF! Ageing Ireland team refresh absolutely needed.
He got MOTM against Fiji back in 2009 on his start
I think the Prendergast/Crowley debate is similar to the England Smith/Smith debate. Why not both? They're both young, talented and simply offer something different. Neither one is better than the other imo, just different styles.
That’s the issue with out half’s though, it’s hard to expect every other player in the back line to totally change out their style to suit during the game or week to week.
@@BaneofBalor Crowley is better no question. Sam will be really good (injury permitting) by the time he’s 24.
@Ollyk1 Yeah I really meant from the perspective of the future of the 10 jersey
Crowley currently has bigger games under his belt including a URC final and a regular for Munster. As a Leinster fan, Prendergast needs is not at that level yet.
@barryb90 It's clear to anyone watching he's just better. Might be a bit younger and less experienced but he is better
My thoughts on Izuchukwu: not sure what to make of it. He did OK and he didn't make any significant mistakes, so he didn't do himself any harm. But for the most part, the game just seemed to pass him by. I was getting frustrated by his lack of involvement as he has been a major ball carrier for Ulster, but then the light dawned: whether by design or not, the ball was hardly ever given to him to carry. Was this again, a subconscious result of the experienced players preferring to stick to the guys they normally play with? His carry stats will probably look poor, but it's hardly his fault if he's never picked out.
Don’t worry he’s young. The plays just go with the tried and trusted Doris, VDF, Big Joe. I thought he was solid. He’ll get more chances.
I think he played reasonably well in his first international, I would hope he is happy with his performance. I don't think that the coaching team would feed him to the wolves, by asking him to make the hard yards.
The X factor is always there & available. I think he needs to keep improving on the basics to get into the matchday squad. There are some serious athletes competing for a few places (including Lions, world player of the year nominees, Ryan Baird, etc.). Hopefully he keeps improving & has many more days in Green.
@@alanmulcahy7749I wouldn't argue with many of your thoughts, but why not let him try to make a few hard yards in a game like this? It almost felt like they were keeping him in cotton wool at times. He doesn't need that. Maybe it's his body shape. He will get physically stronger as he matures, but despite being 6'7" and 18 stone, he somehow doesn't look like a proper beast. Maybe I'm over-analysing, but he, like Henderson, doesn't have the broad, high-set shoulders of a Brodie Retallick that make others look more imposing, nor does he have the square-set jaw of a Richie McCaw or a JVdF. But judge him on his actions. That'll all that matters.
@@RossoVerdeNero The Irish coaching team's man management is excellent.
For every player's first cap, they try to keep the pressure off & allow them to ease their way into international rugby as gently as possible (not easy, given the pressure & hits !).
They want people to concentrate on playing well - not trying to prove anything to anyone - "you deserve to be here, so just be yourself".
He has that out of the way, so I reckon the coaching team now know they can bring him off the bench (a couple of points down with 10 minutes to go) & run a match winning strike move with him breaking the defense & Doris running a dummy line.
His challenge is to get on the bench for the 6N...
Some brilliant offloads from Gus McCarthy. Hooker is not exactly a position where Ireland were lacking depth, but the future looks promising.
Was most impressed with Sam P's passing. He will beef up as he has a big frame and will add muscle in the next few years. I think we see him as number 22 next week. I think Crowley will start.
She stopped as she thought it was a knock forward, she said it live
Good moral boost BUT will need to be better next weekend against a resurgent Australia.
They need to work on their passing, atrocious at times
@@x-latetv-x6816atrocious give me a break , take your head out of your arse, some forward passes “just” but some sublime passing. I suppose you think you get to score 8 tries passing atrociously 😂😂
@@davidwalker2402 they butchered a few scores with sloppy passes
@ yes they did but equally they scored 8 tries with some sublime passing. There was a totally different Irish team out there and many early injuries lots of position changes. There seems to be an ignorance about Ireland going on , but they turned up today and beat another tier 1 team easily. Fiji had won 6 of their last 7 games. Scotland beat them by a similar score with all their first team out and it was seen as a great win.
@@davidwalker2402 Scotland celebrate losing by a couple of tries at home to SA, that's not where we're at.
It was a good performance and great to get minutes in the young guys.
My thoughts on the Young Prentender: he had a shocker at the start. A stupid shoulder to the head, rightly a yellow, could have been a red. As soon as he got back on, he kicked the ball dead while going for the corner, then 2 minutes later he kicked a straightforward one out on the full under no pressure. But, to be fair to the lad, he regrouped and looked the part for the rest of his game. Nothing special, but good experience for him. Perhaps the Dublin media will ease off on anointing him for a bit while he gains more experience.
Great to see yoings kids playing u will learn much more playing than training 😅😅
Salt from the South as always
@@SBSchwift You can sense the gritted teeth thru which it was typed. called out every tiny error and baying for a red card."nothing special"...these clows will be very very confused when they see him starting ahead of Jack very soon. i love it.
@@SBSchwiftI honestly don't know what you mean. Can you explain?
The Fijians are just a class act and super people…love from Ireland❤
That’s Michael D Higgins, the Irish president
Maura's uncle 😂
Only ever seen him when the rugby's on...always a pleasure.
@EggchasersRugby he's a gentleman. Fantastic human rights activist, and a very good poet by all accounts. Lovely to see the respect between him and the Fijians
@@mylesbyrne5287The apple doesn't fall far from the tree
@@EggchasersRugbyHe's a very interesting man a human rights activist speaks fluent Spanish and French, he should not be around he was in the church in Nicragua when Archbishop Romero was murder with other by a death squad..he had a stroke in March and was very lucky again...Michael D Higgins has two years left as President, the respect shown him by the Fiji players was something to behold
Gus was awsome!
I missed the first twenty minutes, so I may have missed something, but I think Hollie Davidson had a really good game. More consistent and attentive refereeing than I've seen recently.
She needs to be careful with her positioning though, she'll get knocked out
I thought she was terrible. Missed a lot that she should have given, gave a lot that she shouldn’t have
@@GoldenbanjoDJ Bla Bla blah
@ oh here she is. The most pointless commenter on UA-cam. You’ve managed to say something even stupider than ‘and?’ this time
Irish commentary feed were saying Pendergast was lucky it wasn’t a red too Tim.
Yep the commentary team said that and Trimby said the same in the studio afterwards.
I don't know the laws well enough (who does?), but O'Driscoll's point was that the mitigation of "not a high degree of danger" shouldn't have applied as it was deemed to be deliberate foul play. If that's true, then, even as an Irish fan, Im would have to wonder did he get a "home town big nation" benefit of doubt.
2 years ago that's a red and a 3 week ban, but I think yellow was fair.
Could have been a red, it was a lazy tackle. Other than that there was a few times where he was undecided what to do, a sharper team would be all over him.
@@t3lurid3 Irish media are bunch of whining clowns .
Ireland fan here and this was a much better game today. I felt for Fiji, were they just tired? Agree with you Tim we left several tries out there that went begging.
Best part was Ireland youngsters looking good
They really did!
@@EggchasersRugbybut against a tired looking Fiji.
@@LeMerchThey were tired because made them look tired.
Prendergast was well able for the big hits from the big Fijians, this guy is a real talented 10
😮Im not looking forward to the incoming Irish 😕 hate on here.I thought Ireland deserved to win despite what the trolls will say.I think Figi are an exciting and really strong team.Great respect to Figi in the prelims for their courtesy 👏
52-17 and some people still think the refs handed Ireland the match...
The Fouling Fijians really sabotaged any chance they had with penalties. Ireland meanwhile had much better discipline. Shows you how critical that part of the game is.
We are they new England in rugby 🏉 😀 anybody but Ireland.... success brings envoy
Embrace it. Nobody likes us....we don't care. Saffas hate us because they can't beat us.
The more fans of other nations have a pop, the more of a threat it means you are.
Ok that basis, France and Ireland are very good teams.
Sorry Tim, they said here on TV in Ireland that Prendergast was v. lucky (Quinlan himself)
Quinlan is famous for being fair towards Leinster players when he isn't trying to play opthamologist with them.
I stand corrected then! My apologies to Alan Quinlan :)
@@EggchasersRugbythere was no intent .
Quinny does not like Pendrergast cause he is not munster.
I often feel that Quinlan over-eggs it to be extra extra ‘fair’
The Fijians taking the knee for Mickey D would bring a tear to a glass eye.Lovely fellahs altogether. Only seconded by the performance of Gus McCarthy won't be long before he is pushing Dan Sheehan
In fairness to Hollie, she thought it was short and lost forward. She's a young ref and will undoubtedly learn from that.
Yeah she called it as short and a knock on from the beginning
+1 you're off the mark there Tim
She qs awful
I thought she had a decent enough game, although I do wonder about the experienced Irish legends saying that Prendergast should have had red. Sounds like she got that one wrong.
@RossoVerdeNero personally, I thought it was a yellow. However, she can't be faulted. She gave the yellow with an off-field review. Upon review, it remained a yellow. She did everything exactly right.
I also believe a yellow was appropriate, but that where we stop agreeing. Quinlan and Irish pundits were saying also that it could be upgraded and the ref was great. I’ve never found him remotely near as biased as the English commentators commentating on English games. It was knocked on. Good performance from Ireland but even with 8 tries, you were left feeling that the left 4 more behind. Irelands defence had more to do with the lack of Fijian attack than their efforts in trying to do so.
You’re wrong on the short call Tim. She said it was short and then a knock on. She said that from the start. Listen back.
Fair enough. Wasn't a knock on though, was it?
@ tbh I groaned when I saw Hollie was reffing the game BUT we have to give up and coming refs games like this to develop and she will improve over time. She’s very new to this level and I’m not sure Sam Grove white was a great refs assistant. I think some experienced refs on the line would have been more help to her.
Her positioning can be very poor at times. Lucky she only got hit once tbh.
@@Ollyk1she can develop in 2nd tier or women’s tests if they want to go that route. She was condescending to the Fijians and poor overall.
@@hanoitripper1809 we could say the same about a few other refs as well. It’s tough as we’ve had a number of really good refs retire recently and the quality isn’t as good and as widely spread as it once was in my opinion. Plus I think the game needs something more than one ref at the professional level. It’s far from easy.
Frawley with his forward passes... honestly he just missiles the ball to Murray because he didn't want to get minced again resulting in a forward pass
Probably right actually.
I thought that was harsh given the momentum rule. Hands went backwards
Short and lost forward was what was said. Hollie had a great game. Shes getting a lot of unjust grief online purely because shes a woman. Top young ref
She is the best referee in the URC and rapidly becoming one of the better at international.
I thought she had a reasonable game but spare me the victimhood. She can be criticised just like other refs.
I thought Izuchukwu was unlucky not to get the try. The pass looked very flat, could have at least checked it as it would have resulted in a try.
Alan Quinn was honest when I listened, he said “that easily could have been a red, he got away with it”, I think he was honest
Fair enough. I stand corrected.
The Fijian players showing a crazy amount of respect to the president. What a great team
Even the Irish commentary thought the yellow for prendergahst could have been a red
You are correct It is Alan Quinlan on commentry on Virgin Media in Ireland... But he also thought that Sam Prendergast yellow could be upgraded to a 20 min red and nobody could complain.
Good game. Must say Prendergast was lucky not to get red. Some lovely passes and mccarthy had a great game
LOVED his passing. So smooth
Me thinks you are a Munster fan.
Which McCarthy?
Why was it not a red card?
Yep, that was a red all day long. Total intent to inflict injury.
Good stuff as always
Just a note: when you asked early on, "Why are you here?" referring to anybody who hadn't watched the match- I can't afford to watch the match, so im dependent on radio coverage for the game followed by your analysis afterwards. Then the next day i see snippets of the action on youtube. Like many fans who are only interested in rugby i cant afford these £30 a month sports channels. Keep up the good work and remember how much some of us fans depend on you!
Hansen’s non-forward pass hasn’t stopped Munster fans hammering him for it because they want the extremely one dimensional Calvin Nash ahead of him in the pecking order.
If roles were reversed and that was a Fijian... red for sure. It's the little things that can change momentum. For sure, Ireland was the better team and deserved the W. 4:53 I also feel they brushed over that vd Vlier finish... in the highlights, he definitely tries to dot down after 'losing' the ball.... TMO said,'It's fine...without the ref taking a loo
Alan Quinlan did actually say Sam's card could be upgraded to a red at the time...just FYI 😊
Of course he did, another pundit who doesn’t know the rules.
Came to the comments to find the saffa's, the bitter boks that follow EVERY Ireland win or loss. I'll stay scrolling 😂😂
😂😂 yeah it's crazy lad, especially when some lad called Mbonobi starts giving Ireland shit... Hang on there for a minute Mbonobi, Ireland were fighting for your fucking human rights while that same team you support did apartheid to you... Those Mbonobi lads need a history lesson 😂
Such a wasted life. Ah well if our "bitterness" brings you joy, them please go ahead, keep scrolling. Somebody is bound to make you happy. Btw, 1st 4 times WC winners and
No.1 ranked team. 😂💚💛🇿🇦
Why would you summon the third worlders here
Why summon the 3rd worlders here ffs
Too bad you couldn’t win your home series against us
President Michael D. Higgins, who makes Craig Casey look tall
It’s true🤣 love them both.
Was there for the game, have to say I did feel the ref was giving a lot of calls irelands way that shouldn’t have been. Lots of instances I saw Ireland players diving into rucks from the side or being in offside positions that weren’t called at all, and the ref told Hansen not to run after one breakdown as she wanted to stop play, but he ran and scored and she didn’t do anything. All this coming from a neutral fan too
Prendergast was very lucky it wasn't a red but he will know that himself, and Andy will remind him. It's only the beginning of his career so no rush.
Nowhere near a red card
It was dirty and cynical, if Andy doesn't beat that out of his game, he's not much of a coach.
@@GoldenbanjoDJbased on the rules he was lucky not to receive a red. Once you tuck your arm like he did it’s deemed as always illegal. There was no malice but he was fortunate not to receive a red
just like barret against Ireland two weeks ago
@@laoch5658 Barrett was a clear red. This one was a yellow at very best
Irish commentary said Prendergast could have had a red card upgrade. No bias there. As for Alan Quinlan, I've heard he's a really good fellow from someone I know who met him, but I get what you're saying Tim. I rarely listen to him as it's uncomfortable. Somehow, he always brings it back to, "When I used to play for Munster in the good old days". The match could be Mongolia v Bangladesh, but Alan Quinlan will end up talking about Munster back in his playing days😂
Yeh he’s a good bloke and no doubt fine in real life but he is over-visible in the media - problem is he is just not a very good analyst.
I find Alan Quinlan to be reasonably fair. He thought Prendergast was luckily not to get a red. He was indeed lucky. Very foolish. He showed that he has some outstanding qualities - his passing that you referred to and his heads up rugby is very promising and he stays calm. Far from the finished article and needs more game time. The missed tries by Ireland were very frustrating.
Is it too early to say "we're back"? Probably. The test against the Aussies will give us a better idea. That said, Prendergast was more than competent at 10. Onwards and upwards.
As a pessimistic Irish fan, I am shocked at how bad Fiji were.
Agreed. I think they made us look a lot better than we were. They really didn’t cause us too much hassle and I hope this team doesn’t thing they’ve solved everything and are back to their best.
Your right
It was clumsy
Gus mccarthy, Ronan kelleher and Dan Sheehan share the love lads (munster fan)
One of them could end up at Munster for sure.
She said short then knocked on
Gus McCarthy such a freak. At times you thought he was a fly half.
Actual fly half wasn’t bad either. What a delight to watch is Sam Prendergast. The true heir of Sexton. So creative and evasive. So composed and clean under pressure. For the Australians and other afl fans here. He reminds me of AFL star Nick Daicos.
Also the sub bringing on a hooker for a 12. I love teams breaking the Rugby habits.
The hype about Prendergast and Daicos are definitely similar. Daicos is the AFL's second coming of Christ. In the AFL, it would have been a free to Daicos for the equivalent of that yellow card offense.
@ Haha. I am not a Collingwood fan you know and I agree that he is overprotected and the AFLs poster child. Still a terrific player, undeniable.
The hype, the style of play, and even a bit of look. So much in common.
..Oisin Mullen The New Daicos !!
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@@peterm..6981 Great example too. Terrific footballer.
I was disappointed that they did not put Gus at 12 or 13 when Doris moved there.
Prendergast is in the O'Gara/Sexton mould of not offering a running threat of his own. This is one reason I like Crowley, he offers Ireland a different dimension (Leinster fan btw)
She said "I think it's short and he's knocked it on"
Fiji couldn't get their running game going at all because of their atrocious penalty count. Completely killed off the game for them.
nothing about the game, haven´t watched it yet, but love that jumper, it has this 80´s vibe to it. what brand is it?
Our prez is called Michael D Higgins
I actually like your jumper Tim 👍
Ireland Are Still Too Strong I Can't wait to See them Meet France in six Nations
That fixture has been BOX OFFICE in recent years
France will take it. They’re looking super strong. I think they’ll build and win the next WC.
Ireland will beat France in Dublin and win the trophy despite losing to England OR Scotland. You read it here first.
@OskarBosco-o2w I'd be content to finish 3rd this year if we put some serious effort into rebuilding.
Rugby must be the game with the most inconsistent refereeing in the world…
Agree with this and it's the reason it won't grow outside a niche audience. the rules are very difficult to understand. Soccer, golf, tennis, even curling is so easy to understand TV viewers can engage with the drama unfolding. apart from a last minute drop goal or try, it's really hard to understand what's going on.
@@ChaunceyGardner100 Rules not complicated, the referee quality standards are just shit
@deeperanddown "Interpretive" is in the application and attitude from WR and their ego is the problem. Son busy studying coaching and its been an interesting journey discovering just how inept and complicit WR truly have been, the rules are not the problem, its the story they keep selling to hide their ineptitude and the absolute absymal quality of refs they have been producing. The entire WR board needs to go for rugby, thats the real and ONLY change the sport needs, everything will flow naturally from there, a professional sport run by inept amatuers
1 set of rules for ireland and another set for the rest of the world. Ireland is where nz was a few years ago. Just do what they want and get away with it
when you have a woman reffing what do you expect and if that offends you then youre the problem
Fiji didn’t turn up for this game. Ireland is a strong side and Fiji lost the plot completely. Very disappointing!
Where's all the Saffer trolls?
their game is on now, they'll turn up after that
In hiding no doubt.
Figis won the dancing and respect for me great people😅😅
Jesus, wtf are they teaching you in school these days. Literally the 4th person saying Figi instead of Fiji. It's only 4 letters! You can't all be dyslexic!
Men playing with boys some talent coming through😮😮
How was that not a red card on prendergast. The tmo and ref got this completly wrong
What is everyone's opinion on Beirne at lock opposed to 6?
Thats a very flashy top!! I'm sure I one similar going to school in the 1970's.
Dude is a style icon
So right, I was watching the gamexandcwas waiting for Fiji to play their traditional brand of high risk offloading rugby.I think they only played out form their 22 late in the second half
💯 on short try.
I can't get the welsh game! This paywall is really annoying.
1:30 Nail on the head. Of course you gotta get the fundamentals right, but it seemed like they just wanted to bosh through us. And they've the players to do that to a degree, but it fairly one dimensional from the usual chaos you got from Fiji.
Micheal D Higgins As much a Giant of a Man as Doris Aki and Porter. Though seeing him greet
Devon Toner was always a good Laugh
i had the exact same reaction for stopping the game for the short of the line decision but few expletives
Don't worry Tim, The irish president is michael d Higgins. He isn't prime minister and the beauty of this channel is that it comes off the cuff.. and it's rugby you are covering so no worries from this irish man
The cold weather might have played its part.
Remember in the RWC it was in France in Autumn, more similar to the weather Fiji are used to.
Or am i making excuses for Fiji?
I think typically Fijian lads prefer warmer climates and probably play better in the heat. So you could be right