Can I just say, I love how both Bruce’s and Harvey’s secret are both based on another identity, while Bruce’s is obviously Batman(the hero persona he never reveals for his friends’/family’s protection) Harvey has the Big bad Harv(the villainous persona that he doesn’t reveal to protect himself from issues it will cause him) keeping them secret, although helpful in the moment, causes them both suffering at certain points, with Two-Face being an example of what might happen if that secret got out in the most tragic way imaginable
No kidding! His line before that one is also chilling when you rewatch that scene. When he says "There's just one problem..." you can hear a bit of a growl enter his voice when he says "problem." That is right when he shifts from Harvey to Big Bad Harv, and it's in the middle of a sentence! His duality is so close it's not separated between sentences.
I also feel like having the blue skin distances him from a real burn victim's injuries, which I think is a good thing considering how stigmatized they already are thanks to their disfigurements without having them directly correlated to the explicitly evil side of a supervillain.
Even though I get what you're saying, I don't think there's anything wrong w/ villains having burns or scars. I've known actual burn victims. A girlfriend of mine had an uncle who was severely burned as a young man. He is now bald, with a disfigured face, and nubs for ears. He is also a sheriff's detective and, by all accounts, a good man, and a good family man. I also have a disfiguring scar that keeps me off the beach, under normal circumstances, but I don't think there's anything wrong with their portrayal on villains. In fact I think it makes sense - it's an outward representation of the twisted part of their souls. Doctor Who not allowing Davros to be in a wheelchair because of representation is the height of this brain-dead mentality. In reality, even children understand that there is a big difference between fictional portrayals of scars and their real world counterparts. Not the same thing at all.
I don't want to be rude but God dammit shut up. There's no stigma to burn victims simply because a character has burns. You're making something self conscious when it's not, so stupid.
@@SerumLake two face/Harvey used to be batman/Bruce's best friend the animated series, dark night trilogy and Gotham by gaslight animated movie. its so dramatic
Mr Freeze may had the most tragic story arc but Two-Face had the most emotional with every featured episode that delved deeper and darker into his fragile duality, what made his story more sad was he started out as a heroic figure with a good heart who was very close friends to both Batman and especially Bruce Wayne. He truly walked a fine line of good vs evil and the fact that he created a 3rd persona called The Judge by trying to take himself out truly showed how far gone Harvey Dent fell to his own dark side. One of my all time favourite Batman villains and in my top 5
One thing I think they could have emphasized in the context of the show, at least in some way, is why THAT specific coin was so deeply important to Harvey because even before his disfigurement, he always had it in his person. Obviously we know why due to our actual knowledge of Two-Face's comic lore and it was somewhat mentioned in some tie-in comics but still I think it maybe would have helped deepen our knowledge and investment in the character.
I agree. The funny thing is, they keep doing this in future adaptations Dark Knight, TellTale batman games, and Beware the batman completely gloss over the origin of the coin and do not dive deeper into the psychological connection Harvey has with it.
I would love an entire story about Two-Face losing his iconic coin and how that affects him. Does the coin lose its meaning if it isn't his sentimental keepsake/heirloom, or does he care about the external symbols of the coin. Why a double-sided half dollar as opposed to another coin - wouldn't any ordinary coin do? Imagine the tragic end as Harvey struggles to once again make decisions on his own, only to mar a second coin as his personal choice to reject rational decision. Think of the dr~ama!
@@yourfutureself3392 Things like Harvey's abusive father and how the coin belonged to him prior to Harvey acquiring it. I really recommend checking them out for yourself if you're interested.
Your comment about how Batman/Two-Face are both absolutely obsessed with their own causes, to the point that they both endanger themselves without a second thought, was spot on. To some extent that is why I feel Batman doesn’t give up on Two-Face, in addition to the dynamic of Bruce and Harvey being good friends. I’m glad you covered "Two of a Kind". I became familiar with it through the motion comic that you referenced, and I also really like that story.
A underrated villain, Two-face is awesome. Smart and literally a example of "You die a hero or live long enough to become the villain" before that quote was even popularized or even created. He deserves another live action adaptation
I know that Frank Miller’s work is… mixed, and has some very unsavory elements. But I actually found the portrayal of Two Face in the movie adaption of The Dark Knight Returns super compelling, and feel he deserves a shoutout here as well. *Spoilers ahead for those that haven’t watched it but want to* The idea of him getting reconstructive surgery only to be incapable of seeing himself as anything besides a damaged, scarred monster warping his perception of what he actually looks like was gut wrenching, and felt like something that could have easily happened in the world of BTAS. “At least both sides match now…”
Two-Face is a great Batman villain because he embodies the duality of human nature, representing the constant struggle between good and evil. His split personality, fueled by a tragic backstory, adds depth and complexity to his character. Two-Face stands out due to his psychological depth and the exploration of themes such as justice, morality, and the consequences of choices. His obsession with duality and his reliance on the flip of a coin to make decisions make him a fascinating character. While Two-Face is undoubtedly a compelling character, he falls short of being the best Batman villain due to the presence of other iconic adversaries. Villains like The Joker and Ra's al Ghul have a more profound impact on Batman's world and challenge him in unique ways. One of the problems with Two-Face stories is the repetitive nature of his character arc. Often, his stories revolve around the same themes of his obsession with chance and his struggle to maintain his sanity, which can become predictable for long-time readers. Two-Face's reliance on the coin flip can limit storytelling possibilities by reducing the complexity of his decision-making process. This binary approach to decision-making may make his character seem one-dimensional and restrict opportunities for nuanced character development. While Two-Face's obsession with chance adds a unique aspect to his character, it often overshadows other potential storylines, preventing him from reaching his full potential as the best Batman villain. The repetitive nature of Two-Face's storyline can sometimes diminish his impact as a villain over time. Readers can often feel desensitized to his character, as they already know the outcome of his internal struggle and most twists they attempt have already been attempted at some point before. This can lead to a lack of suspense and reduced emotional investment in his stories. Another issue that seems prevalent with the character is that writers often struggle to find new and compelling angles that don't rely too heavily on re-exploring or somehow retelling Two-Face's origin to create an engaging narrative which can often be the case for other characters as well. Two-Face's origin story is deeply ingrained in his character, making it difficult to separate him from his tragic past. Dont get me wrong though, despite some repetitive storylines Two-Face is still one of the most compelling Batman villains of all time but there's certain elements preventing him from being the very best. For me pesronally he is right up there but a bit behind Riddler, Ra's al Ghul and Joker (those three in no particular order.)
Dude, by that logic, bloody Joker should be boring and predictable . Joker repeats the same patterns over and over again: He tries to push Bruce over the edge, fails, and repeats the same dance again. He has beeb doing this shit for years, and yet fickle fans keep sucking his D and call him the best bat villain, even though he is the most boring, predictable, and fucking overexposed! The problem with Dent is the same problem with loads of Bat rogues who are not the bloody clown. They are all underutilised. Writers are just too fucking lazy to fully utilise Two Face and push him in new directions and ignore the complexity he has! The same applies to Crane, Kill Croc, and the rest of the rogues because they are not as "popular " as Quinn or Joker. This limits their potential because DC would rather shove Joker into every major storyline and treat him like the greatest Bat villain of all time. I honestly hate The Joker because of how overexposed and frankly, overrated he has become. Yes, I said it. Joker is overrated and overused and needs to go on hiatus. If the stupid writers put more focus on Two-Face and the other rogues, they wouldn't feel like bloody supporting characters/jobbers to the white face wolly!
As a kid, I'd always considered Two-Face to be Batman's definitive archvillain. He's a gangster first and foremost, but with a gimmick, putting him in the realm of old Dick Tracy rogues. I thought of the Joker as the "wild card" that sprang up now and then, but I still can't bring myself to think of it as "Batman and the Joker." To me, it'll always be "Batman and Two-face." And please allow me to congratulate your nation on the coronation of King Harvey II. Long live the kings.
@@SerumLake The one with Gill Mason as Harvey's stooge was actually my favorite episode of BTAS growing up, because it made me feel smart and mature. "The least we can do for Commissioner Gordon is grant him bail!" And I was, like, four or five, and I felt so smart when I realized, "Oh, he's just PRETENDING to be nice so people don't know he's a bad guy!" I loved showing it to my little friends and being the smart onem
This is one of the few characters who did really well in the transition to TNBA. The Judge personality is really cool and expands on the character in an interesting new way. It doesn't retread old ground and it doesn't feel too weird.
I mean, BTAS did do more with Two-Face than the comic had for a while. I swear, most 'great' Two-Face stories I get told about are either a new version of the origin, or him getting his face fixed. There's never anything about his psyche, never anything about trying to help mentally instead of physically, hell half the time they seem to forget the dude was a DA. There's some out there, like his appearance in Gotham Central, or the first arc of All-Star Batman that actually used his DA origins, but it's few and far between. BTAS really shines through because of this, it explores Harvey as a character, probes the depths of what makes Two-Face tick, and even manages to continue this into TNBA with Judgement Day. Honestly, the two shows have about as many amazing, groundbreaking Two-Face stories as all the comics for the whole 50 odd years before them. Note that I am not including the many imposter Two-Face characters that kept showing up in the Silver and Bronze Ages, for not only are they pale imitations, but they still do the exact same stories with almost no variation.
Yes, very well said about the comics. I think Faces by Matt Wagner came out around the time BTAS was airing, and I really like that story - mostly because of the art.
You made me go back and watch btas again. Two face is incredible in the series, I forgot as a kid why I love him so much. This might be the best two face ever . He has a purpose and I understands his motives, and is not just about his transformation.
I also love how two face go after other mobsters and befriend criminals he prosecuted . It shows depth to what the actions he is taking. Two face is not your generic greedy villain.He is trying find a new way to control the system that damaged him. He chose the dark side
I seriously would like to see this character utilize a lot more and to his maximum potential. Batman the animated series did an amazing amazing job when it came down to this character. It's just a shame that he's not utilized more because there are so much potential.
That version of Two-Face is one of the best looking ones I've seen. The tortured screams when he couldn't find his coin or make a decision, sometimes I thought Bruce should confront Harvey without the mask, as both sides do still care about him.
I love this arc for Two-Face We start with him helping Bruce and Gordon who are like brothers too him take down the big bads in Gotham. A very good example of this is when Poison Ivy deputed and Bruce went especially hard in her to cure his friend. Then we have the big day where he's supposed to get rid of Thorne. But after one too many fuck ups Harvey's more angry and vengful side emergee even scaring Bruce. Despite all the therapy he gets nothing could fully kill "Big Bad Harv" When facing the choice either he drip outta office or has hus mental problems released on to the public to destroy him image.His about to blow a fuse but the just smiles. I swear this smile is creepy as hell I don't know just something about how long it extends to an unnatural degree like kinda Joker mix with the voice. Batman/Bruce shows up and he and his old chum almost escaped..... And that's when the explosion happens. When Harvey sees his transformation that scream is HORRIBLE and that reveal stil sends chilld down my spine. I love how not only does his girl stick beside him but Bruce and Gordon for real want to cure him which leads into Second Chance where at this point Harvey has been Two-Face for so long that he has completely given up on a cure even when it's laying right there A main reason why this show is so good is the villains we get to see their lives both on and off the battle ground which is something most writers tend to not do
Two Face was a tragic yet dangerous villain,Harvey Dent's mind was so horribly shattered it was like two people sealed in one body always at war with each other...a true example of being his own worst enemy. Batman was actually less of an enemy to him.
Since I was I kid I have always been obsessed with Two-Face as a character, I just can't explain why but I have always liked better the acid to the face in court idea. However I have always treated the animated series as a standard for him and Batman in general, just perfection.
If you enjoy this version of Two-Face so much, I think you'll enjoy how Telltale handled the character in their Batman game as well. They really go hard with the psychological aspect of Harvey's character and the impact of his friendship with Bruce, and watching his descent into madness and villainy is nothing short of heartbreaking.
I also love how two face go after other mobsters and befriend criminals he prosecuted . It shows depth to what the actions he is taking. Two face is not your generic greedy villain.He is trying find a new way to control the system that damaged him. He chose the dark side
Two-Face is my second favorite Batman villain next to The Joker 🃏. Richard Molls Voice As Two-Face in Batman TAS was phenomenal. His raspy and growling voice was perfect for Two Face . When i read a Batman comic book book i hear Richard Molls voice as Two Face in my head . RIP Richard Moll 😢😢
For the simple reason that his story took place in The New Batman Adventures. I don’t view it as a fourth season of BTAS, I view it as a different show - the same continuity, of course, but it’s very different. I’ll probably talk about Judgement Day in a separate video one day!
🪴Looking forward to this, for obvious reason, eheh... Two-Face is undoubtedly the villain that embodies the BTAS era of Batman the most, even moreso than the Joker we feel. Of course, we could go for the simple straightforward answer of how he plays to both the highs and the lows of the series (specifically in the department of mental health focusing more on suppression/erasing alters instead of reforming them. Two-Face is ultimately his own person who deserves respect on that front), but we will say he's by far the most compelling character to become a villain for Bruce. Harvey being good friends with Bruce Wayne, to the point we see him in multiple episodes before the scarring incident, is just good worldbuilding. It makes every encounter with Two-Face much more personal then other villains/antagonists can manage because Bruce simply cares. (If he cares about Two-Face or just Harvey that's up for debate, but still). We're honestly sad they didn't go farther on that with the New Adventures. Two-Face caused Tim Drake to become Robin, that feels like it should be more a sticking point...! We watched the last episode where The Judge surfaces (also his own person worthy of respect btw) and we can't recall if Bruce even mentions they used to be friends. It's funny, recently a Two Face fan introduced us to the recent run of Gotham Nocturne. Where it establishes that "Big Bad Harv" was a coping mechanism to fight the abuse that Harvey got. And Harvey even admits that he does genuinely need Two-Face, even if they don't always get along. Speaking as a system ourselves, we think that's a very important step in the greater narrative of talking about Two Face. It humanizes Two Face when most writers tend to write him off as a bad symptom of a disorder instead of a person. (Still has him kill people so... you know. Baby steps.) Whatever the video turns out to be, we're definitely on team "Probably the best depiction of Two Face". After all, if they didn't try introducing his plurality, we might not even be talking about it right now, would we? (Also slightly unrelated note, in BTAS we typically interpreted Harvey as a man of color, does anyone else feel that way? We remember his skintone became extremely light in the Justice League and didn't really like that.)
I completely agree that BTAS Two-Face is African American - this is because Billy Dee Williams played Harvey Dent in Tim Burton's first Batman film and the creative team were encouraged to sync up with the films wherever possible - See Selina Kyle's blonde hair, "Jack Napier", and the design of The Penguin. In The New Batman Adventures they dropped the references to the movies (for the most part), and Two-Face looked like he had been whitewashed, which I think was unnecessary. I don't know if this was deliberate, or if perhaps they were trying to tie him a bit closer to Tommy Lee Jones, but I will always prefer the original design.
@@SerumLake I always figured that BTAS Two-Face was half Caucasian and half Latino. Despite his appearance though, I'm pretty sure canonically he is Caucasian. A more famous example is Lex Luthor's appearance in Superman The Animated Series which quite a few people thought was African-American. I as a kid never thought that because in Greece I'm used to sometimes seeing people just naturally be very tan which is what I thought Lex was and considering his adjusted appearance in Justice League and Justice League Unlimited I think I was probably right.
@@The_PhantasmYeah, it's entirely possible that Harvey Dent was just intended to be ambiguous. Given that Lex's design was based on Telly Savalas, I can definitely see why you'd see him that way.
@@SerumLake It's funny because I had never made the connection that Lex's design was based on Telly Savalas until about five or six years ago but when I first saw the resemblance, I couldn't unsee it.
I’d love to see a breakdown comparing the merits of his origin stories as portrayed in TV shows, in the comics, in movies, different Batman video game series, and any other extended media.
Personally, my favourite TAS villain is The Mad Hatter. While he isn't a personal foe for Batman, he does represent obsession, something Batman can relate to. Batman can control his obsession, but Jervis can not. His obsession over Alice drove him over the edge, and he turned into a twisted criminal. Also, he is arguably the one villain who came the closet to defeating Bruce. Not by killing him, but by trapping him in his own private Wonderland, where his parents are alive and he is engaged to Selina. And Bruce almost gives in to temptation. Bruce is a man who lost his childhood and accepts he can never get it back, while Jervis refuses to accept reality and wants to act out his fantasties, like a child. In my opinion, Mad Hatter is the best villain from TAS. No offence to Dent. I love Two-Face, but I do not think the writers did enough to fully explore his character or his connection to the coin. Ironically, the TAS spin-off comics actually do a better job exploring Two-Face and his past. It helps that they were not restricted like the cartoon, so they were allowed to reference child abuse. I think one of the reasons Two-Face wasn't given more solo episodes was because the writers overused The Joker. The Joker has more solo episodes than most of the other rogues, Two-Face included. Even back in the 90s, Joker was hogging the spotlight.
Your argument is sound, and I can see why you'd feel that way. It also helps that Mad Hatter was voiced by the late, great, Roddy McDowall - he never gave a bad performance, even in that TNBA episode where he was controlling circus animals :)
Never feel ashamed to admit that. Unfortunately WB is romanticizing the joker and now we have a bunch of kids who think he's this poor misunderstood victim...
only recently started getting into batman but twoface immediately became my favourite villain, hell hes one of my favourite characters altogether. his insanity is so interesting. he can be good, he has that capacity - and for him that decision relies on the flip of a coin. i liked the take the long halloween had on him aswell, or at least i liked how it let me interpret it. he was so stressed by being a lawyer, tired of fighting for justice. then there was a voice in his head saying "wouldnt it just be easier if you didnt have to decide" and the accident triggered him to listen to that voice. now he doesn't have to think about it, now he can relax and let the coin decide for him. he no longer has the job of fighting for justice, no judge to appeal to, no lawyers to argue with, no jury to sway - just an executioner, obeying the will of a coin
I personally welcome Two Face as king of England. Excellent video! As a kid, I wasn't really too sure sure about his motivations as a villain, so I really appreciate this lovely dive into his character.
I've 2 bisected black & white suits made from a black suit and a white suit. 1 matches Two-Face and is used for cosplay, other has colours swapped and is my party suit.
Couldn't agree more, Serum lake. While villains like Scarecrow and the Joker are good in their own right, I always liked the "personal villain" the most. Two-Face is one of Batman's personal villains due to their past in BTAS as friends but because of Rupert Thorne (I want to see a monkey throw poop at that scum bag as well as Daggett. XD) He ended becoming Two Face... BTAS Harvey Dent/Two-Face is a dang tragic character for sure... And feel even more bad for him in the black and white comics....
Maginficent! I've always shied away from stories where Two-Face was a simple fetishist about the number 2. (« _He robbed the Second National Bank !_ ») He's much more interesting when he's either a revenge antihero - like Batman, but conscienceless. Or even more so when he casts himself as the grand equivocator: _Blind luck made him his rise to the top of Gotham society and blind luck knocked him off his high perch. He will make sure everyone else gets the same opportunities. ( Which is another kind of revenge._ )
This is my all time favourite villain from Batman’s rouge’s gallery. Just a perfect villain to me. I’ve always loved contrasts, opposites, and parallels.
it's awesome to see how well The Dark Knight Returns fits into this story of friendship and tragedy even though it was written before the animated series. Even after decades of brutal crime, Bruce still wants to bring his friend back and pays for every treatment and even puts his reputation on the line. It probably wasn't very popular for the Prince of Gotham to vouch for Harvey and try to get the public to be accepting of rehabilitating such a notorious criminal and killer.
I generally make a distinction between Batman the Animated Series and The New Batman Adventures, and generally tend to focus on BTAS. I do plan on doing a video about The Judge later on though.
I just found out about “Two of a Kind” and absolutely adore it! My favorite part of the story is that Madelyn and Madeline kinda remind me of actress Bette Davis since she played polarizing twins in “A Stolen Life” and “Dead Ringer”.
Something that struck me like a cord in Batman Arkham Knight, was the dialogue between Batman and Two-Face you get if you arrest Two-Face AFTER the main storyline. I can’t remember it word for word, but Two-Face is in shock that Batman and Bruce are the same person, and when he asks if it’s true, Harvey’s voice sounds shaky. Bruce pauses before answering, and simply says he’s sorry.
Why haven’t we seen a time where the coin landed on good and two face saves Batman and fights with him for a while? We always see it make choose the side of the villain
The only thing sort of like that is the end of "A Serious House On Serious Earth" where Batman agrees to let Two-Face kill him if he loses the coin flip but Two-Face lets him go. Only to reveal at the end of the comic that Batman had actually lost the coin flip but Harvey chose to let him go instead of listening to his coin.
Two-Face is great because he is two sides of the same coin, and that coin is crazy! Also my best cosplay ever was a homemade black and white Two-Face costume with makeup :D
YES, I've Been Waiting For This!! Two-Face Is My All Time Favorite Batman Villain! Mainly Because The Whole Personality Thing (I'm Apart Of A System Myself) What He Represents, And That Well He's Just So Fun To Draw. All Of Your Videos Have Been Amazing, And It's Clear You Have A Passion For This, So Thank You :) (Also I Don't Know If It's Wrong To Assume, But What Do You Think Harvey's Race Is In Btas?)
Thanks! I view him as being African American, mostly because Billy Dee Williams played Harvey Dent in the first Batman movie, and I know they were encouraged to synergise with the films as much as possible (hence "Jack Napier", The Penguin's design, and Selina Kyle's blonde hair)
🎩hello!!! We’re a part of a system too! Recently our Annie fictive has interacted with this channel quite a bit from the Clayface connection, hahaha. Considering they basically made Bruce canon plural in the comics, now Two-Face feels all the more logical as Batman’s actual foil antagonist. We love his design! We quite agree with your sentiment, Harvey does seem to be African American from how he’s designed. It’s such a shame he just got lighter skinned as time went on.
@@sherry-annsasmellyshrew6516 🪴 a pleasure to meet you all too...! Have you all heard of the recent zur-en-arrh plot in batman comics, by any chance...? They've really recently kinda... digged further into the plurality of things and we've love to hear another system's thoughts
I would like to clarify something that I have been seeing people say for years but I think they often exaggerate a bit. Harvey Dent and Bruce Wayne's friendship and Harvey Dent overall being an established character prior to his transformation into Two-Face like some people say he was and something that I guess is true but not to a very noteworthy extent. Harvey Dent's appearances were mostly brief and glorified cameos. He was a blink and you miss it cameo in On Leather Wings and he was barely in Pretty Poison where he wasn't even conscious for half of his minimal screen time and was mostly a plot device. Two-Face Part 1 is really his first truly memorable role. Much bigger issue for me is that the relationship between him and his new fiancé Grace is not really well built up to at all since we saw him in his previous appearance that he's been dating other people and so it a bit too sudden. They made the best out of it though and since it doesn't take away from the viewing experience, it's just some issues I have with it.
@@zemox2534 I don't have a problem with Two-Face. I think he is an amazing villain and I just wanted to give some of my thoughts on certain aspects of the character.
@@SerumLake Again, not true. I was just pointing out a few elements that I think sometimes go unsaid. Two-Face is one of my absolute favourite comic book villains of all time and the things I mentioned are elements that I think sometimes hurt his amazing potential.
@@SerumLake I had made a small grammatical mistake at the end of the comment where it said that "it does take away from the viewing experience for me" and I meant to say that it doesn't take away from the experience.
As a PTSD guy (domestic violence all through my upbringing, also as an only child under a single parent), "Eye Of The Beholder" is THE origin story of Two-Face and... very relatable. Dealing with a bipolar thing on top of trauma, I made my life's goal a sort of "reverse journey" of his, though -- While Harvey originally went off the deep end at one point, I gradually became more rational, collected... open... understanding (Yes, yes, still can be p****d off at times -- but much more reasonable and FASTER to "cool off" then way back when 😂). Thank goodness for that character and the addictive fun/grievances of duality (y'know, once you begin judging things by that concept you can recognise it practically EVERYWHERE..! But that helped understanding). Well, "One day, robin will FLY again" (umm, inside joke, he's my actual namesake 😅)
Shadow of the Bat is the actual Two-Face Part II. It's the hight point of his villainous career, even if the plot of Batgirl and Gill puts him in... second plane
I always felt immense sympathy for Two Face, the struggles between his personalities for control and all stemming from his abusive childhood is sad to see
Two-Face was always my favorite. I still have a (quite poorly drawn) picture I made of him when I was 8! I redrew a better version of it recently after I found it looking through my old drawings. I even have a character that I made up that's really similar to Two-Face, but I wasn't thinking about him when I made up the character. He was a soldier named Ulrich who had half his face disfigured by gas in WW1. His girlfriend Rosamina was horrified upon seeing his face when he came home from the war, and she left him. Ulrich became depressed because of this, and turned evil. Years later Rosamina returned upon hearing Ulrich was imprisoned for life (due to war crimes in WW2.)
I am a major fan of how Two-Face gets a panic attack when he can't use his coin. As someone who has a lot of experience with anxiety, I know how debilitating losing your crutch(es) can be. I think it adds another layer to Two-Face, and I think the implementation is quite good. That's just my two cents, though. 🥁
I felt that the show kind of held two face back in some ways because there wasn't much separation between Harvey and Big Bad Harvey, after the intro to the character, which is kind of why I like Scar face and the Ventriloquist more because you can see the two separate personalities play out on screen, the Gangster puppet and the humble man who could be a fine butler if not for his personality disorder
He isn't a big favorite of mine, but overall, I can understand why you, Stephen Trumble of Batman: Broken Promise fame, and many others are always awesomely hyped up because of his simple prescence. Oh, and can also say that his singular personality iterations feel more interesting to me nowadays compared to when I was a kid, who preferred the chatty split-personality iterations.
That line still hurts. I remember watching the Tie-In Black and White comic with Harvey burning himself again and it's probably one of the saddest non-animated DCAU moment.
The way you describe two face makes it sound a lot like the actual story of Jekyll and Hyde, not 2 separate personalities but rather one side free of reservations
Iv had a sneaking suspicion since the first one that they might/could use Bella Real as that universes two face: lone idealistic politician etc. Would that work for anyone else or just me?
If he does I hope he's a friend and ally for the whole movie and doesn't turn into the villain till the sequel. Dark Knight screwed us over by not letting Harvey be Bruce’s childhood friend instead of the bland acting Rachel.
I do somewhat wish that Bruce had revealed himself to Harvey. If anyone in his rogues gallery would keep it a secret and never act upon it, Two-Face would be that individual.
I like this version but I still think the best two faces are Batman Long Halloween/Dark victory and no-man's land two-face. Those versions just really added depth to the character
What’s the background music? And Two-Face is the only character in TAS that could be on the same level as the Joker. Mostly due to him being the Clown Prince of Crime and being voiced by Mark Hamil.
Kinda hard for to decide, While I do love the two part special for Two-face in this show, I also prefer the take on his in The Long Halloween due to the much longer build up to his character.
Two Face is one of very few villains I almost root for. Lived his life fighting corruption just to have it blow up in his face (no pun intended) with existing emotional instabilities leading him to go against the very system he served and failed him. Most of the people he targeted were the scum he tried prosecute giving them the justice the authorities couldn't in a more satisfying way. In the animated series, the real antagonist was Rupert Thorne.
For me Two-faces is in the same boat as the Riddler, a character that have a lot of narrative important but is very overshadowed by other villains as a threat in general.
Arkham-games managed to show that Dent has control over his obsession. He can plan operations and manage his gang without obsession hindering his faculties and seems quite sane and reasonable for Gotham gang boss. That is until he flips that coin and it's dumb luck does he go utterly psychotic or remain reasonable.
its quite sad seeing him become so damn obsessed with thecoin that he jsut cant function normally he must have that coin when he finally becomes two face
Do you think that this Two Face is a mutant because when I first saw him I think that he is half man, half mutant because I get the idea is supposed to be Jekyll and Hyde but like in Arkham city and the Dark knight it’s just a burnt scar on the which the Dark knight doesn’t seem to have spilt personality disorder just a bitter and depressed man, but I do wonder what this Two Face would look like in full form of the monster half, but I guess that the Judge isn’t this video then?
No, Two-Face isn't a mutant, he's a disfigured man whose trauma is visible for everyone to see. Note that I tend to tag the shows I am talking about in the title of my videos. So, this one is talking about Batman the Animated Series, not The New Batman Adventures (they are different shows, with the same continuity, despite what the DVD releases claim)
@@SerumLake well how can you explain why his skin is blue and his hair is white and I know I’m not a psychiatrist but I really don’t how split personalities work
Can I just say, I love how both Bruce’s and Harvey’s secret are both based on another identity, while Bruce’s is obviously Batman(the hero persona he never reveals for his friends’/family’s protection) Harvey has the Big bad Harv(the villainous persona that he doesn’t reveal to protect himself from issues it will cause him) keeping them secret, although helpful in the moment, causes them both suffering at certain points, with Two-Face being an example of what might happen if that secret got out in the most tragic way imaginable
When Harvey says “You are talking to the wrong Harvey” That sent chills down my spine.
No kidding! His line before that one is also chilling when you rewatch that scene. When he says "There's just one problem..." you can hear a bit of a growl enter his voice when he says "problem." That is right when he shifts from Harvey to Big Bad Harv, and it's in the middle of a sentence! His duality is so close it's not separated between sentences.
"You want my cousin, Harvey."
I also feel like having the blue skin distances him from a real burn victim's injuries, which I think is a good thing considering how stigmatized they already are thanks to their disfigurements without having them directly correlated to the explicitly evil side of a supervillain.
That's a good point.
Even though I get what you're saying, I don't think there's anything wrong w/ villains having burns or scars.
I've known actual burn victims. A girlfriend of mine had an uncle who was severely burned as a young man. He is now bald, with a disfigured face, and nubs for ears. He is also a sheriff's detective and, by all accounts, a good man, and a good family man.
I also have a disfiguring scar that keeps me off the beach, under normal circumstances, but I don't think there's anything wrong with their portrayal on villains. In fact I think it makes sense - it's an outward representation of the twisted part of their souls.
Doctor Who not allowing Davros to be in a wheelchair because of representation is the height of this brain-dead mentality. In reality, even children understand that there is a big difference between fictional portrayals of scars and their real world counterparts. Not the same thing at all.
@@SerumLakeRIP Richard Moll 😢
I don't want to be rude but God dammit shut up. There's no stigma to burn victims simply because a character has burns. You're making something self conscious when it's not, so stupid.
@@SerumLake two face/Harvey used to be batman/Bruce's best friend the animated series, dark night trilogy and Gotham by gaslight animated movie. its so dramatic
In addition to Kevin Conroy, the death of Richard Moll means we've also lost the best Two FAce. RIP to both of them
Travis Willingham did a really god job… but that’s largely due to his Two-Face sounding most similar to Richard Moll.
Mr Freeze may had the most tragic story arc but Two-Face had the most emotional with every featured episode that delved deeper and darker into his fragile duality, what made his story more sad was he started out as a heroic figure with a good heart who was very close friends to both Batman and especially Bruce Wayne. He truly walked a fine line of good vs evil and the fact that he created a 3rd persona called The Judge by trying to take himself out truly showed how far gone Harvey Dent fell to his own dark side. One of my all time favourite Batman villains and in my top 5
Who are the others in your top 5?
@@SerumLake here are my top 5 Batman villains
1. The Joker
2. Ra's Al Ghul
3. Two-Face
4. Scarecrow
5. Bane
Omg that is exactly my top 5 except i would.ve switched bane with mr freeze @@WarhawkBeyond2040
One thing I think they could have emphasized in the context of the show, at least in some way, is why THAT specific coin was so deeply important to Harvey because even before his disfigurement, he always had it in his person. Obviously we know why due to our actual knowledge of Two-Face's comic lore and it was somewhat mentioned in some tie-in comics but still I think it maybe would have helped deepen our knowledge and investment in the character.
I agree. The funny thing is, they keep doing this in future adaptations
Dark Knight, TellTale batman games, and Beware the batman completely gloss over the origin of the coin and do not dive deeper into the psychological connection Harvey has with it.
I would love an entire story about Two-Face losing his iconic coin and how that affects him. Does the coin lose its meaning if it isn't his sentimental keepsake/heirloom, or does he care about the external symbols of the coin. Why a double-sided half dollar as opposed to another coin - wouldn't any ordinary coin do?
Imagine the tragic end as Harvey struggles to once again make decisions on his own, only to mar a second coin as his personal choice to reject rational decision. Think of the dr~ama!
What was said about the coin's importance and/or origin in the DCAU tie-in comics you mentioned?
@@yourfutureself3392 Things like Harvey's abusive father and how the coin belonged to him prior to Harvey acquiring it. I really recommend checking them out for yourself if you're interested.
@@CapnAlcesThis would be such an interesting story 😭
Your comment about how Batman/Two-Face are both absolutely obsessed with their own causes, to the point that they both endanger themselves without a second thought, was spot on. To some extent that is why I feel Batman doesn’t give up on Two-Face, in addition to the dynamic of Bruce and Harvey being good friends.
I’m glad you covered "Two of a Kind". I became familiar with it through the motion comic that you referenced, and I also really like that story.
You know, I’m starting to regret not talking about Two-Timer a bit more… that was another very good Two-Face comic
@@SerumLake Yes, Two-Timer ranks up there for me as well. 👍🏽
I like your head canon about the computer voice. Such an emotional connection.
It's the only thing that makes sense to me. Why else would it sound like Harvey Dent in their universe, right?
A underrated villain, Two-face is awesome. Smart and literally a example of "You die a hero or live long enough to become the villain" before that quote was even popularized or even created.
He deserves another live action adaptation
I'm certain he'll pop up again before too long
Yes
100,000% agree. Still kinda disappointed we never saw the Billy Dee Williams version gradually decline into Two-Face. It would have been interesting.
@@CapnAlcesThere's the Batman '89 comics.
I know that Frank Miller’s work is… mixed, and has some very unsavory elements. But I actually found the portrayal of Two Face in the movie adaption of The Dark Knight Returns super compelling, and feel he deserves a shoutout here as well.
*Spoilers ahead for those that haven’t watched it but want to*
The idea of him getting reconstructive surgery only to be incapable of seeing himself as anything besides a damaged, scarred monster warping his perception of what he actually looks like was gut wrenching, and felt like something that could have easily happened in the world of BTAS.
“At least both sides match now…”
RIP the voice of Two-Face Richard Moll.
Moll who voiced over Harvey Dent was of African American,Native American,German & English Descent I heard!
Two-Face is a great Batman villain because he embodies the duality of human nature, representing the constant struggle between good and evil. His split personality, fueled by a tragic backstory, adds depth and complexity to his character. Two-Face stands out due to his psychological depth and the exploration of themes such as justice, morality, and the consequences of choices. His obsession with duality and his reliance on the flip of a coin to make decisions make him a fascinating character. While Two-Face is undoubtedly a compelling character, he falls short of being the best Batman villain due to the presence of other iconic adversaries. Villains like The Joker and Ra's al Ghul have a more profound impact on Batman's world and challenge him in unique ways. One of the problems with Two-Face stories is the repetitive nature of his character arc. Often, his stories revolve around the same themes of his obsession with chance and his struggle to maintain his sanity, which can become predictable for long-time readers. Two-Face's reliance on the coin flip can limit storytelling possibilities by reducing the complexity of his decision-making process. This binary approach to decision-making may make his character seem one-dimensional and restrict opportunities for nuanced character development. While Two-Face's obsession with chance adds a unique aspect to his character, it often overshadows other potential storylines, preventing him from reaching his full potential as the best Batman villain. The repetitive nature of Two-Face's storyline can sometimes diminish his impact as a villain over time. Readers can often feel desensitized to his character, as they already know the outcome of his internal struggle and most twists they attempt have already been attempted at some point before. This can lead to a lack of suspense and reduced emotional investment in his stories. Another issue that seems prevalent with the character is that writers often struggle to find new and compelling angles that don't rely too heavily on re-exploring or somehow retelling Two-Face's origin to create an engaging narrative which can often be the case for other characters as well. Two-Face's origin story is deeply ingrained in his character, making it difficult to separate him from his tragic past. Dont get me wrong though, despite some repetitive storylines Two-Face is still one of the most compelling Batman villains of all time but there's certain elements preventing him from being the very best. For me pesronally he is right up there but a bit behind Riddler, Ra's al Ghul and Joker (those three in no particular order.)
Dude, by that logic, bloody Joker should be boring and predictable
. Joker repeats the same patterns over and over again: He tries to push Bruce over the edge, fails, and repeats the same dance again. He has beeb doing this shit for years, and yet fickle fans keep sucking his D and call him the best bat villain, even though he is the most boring, predictable, and fucking overexposed!
The problem with Dent is the same problem with loads of Bat rogues who are not the bloody clown. They are all underutilised. Writers are just too fucking lazy to fully utilise Two Face and push him in new directions and ignore the complexity he has! The same applies to Crane, Kill Croc, and the rest of the rogues because they are not as "popular " as Quinn or Joker. This limits their potential because DC would rather shove Joker into every major storyline and treat him like the greatest Bat villain of all time. I honestly hate The Joker because of how overexposed and frankly, overrated he has become. Yes, I said it. Joker is overrated and overused and needs to go on hiatus. If the stupid writers put more focus on Two-Face and the other rogues, they wouldn't feel like bloody supporting characters/jobbers to the white face wolly!
Jesus tldr
@@thegreatacolyt1277it's a decent take and not a bad read but could do with paragraph breaks to make easier to read.
Agreed. Two-Face is criminally underrated as a Batman villain
I think if BTAS hadn't done so well with him, he probably would've languished in obscurity.
So true, he has purpose in BTAS, other mediums just focus on his backstory and transformation.
As a kid, I'd always considered Two-Face to be Batman's definitive archvillain. He's a gangster first and foremost, but with a gimmick, putting him in the realm of old Dick Tracy rogues. I thought of the Joker as the "wild card" that sprang up now and then, but I still can't bring myself to think of it as "Batman and the Joker." To me, it'll always be "Batman and Two-face."
And please allow me to congratulate your nation on the coronation of King Harvey II. Long live the kings.
IF ONLY...
@@SerumLake The one with Gill Mason as Harvey's stooge was actually my favorite episode of BTAS growing up, because it made me feel smart and mature. "The least we can do for Commissioner Gordon is grant him bail!" And I was, like, four or five, and I felt so smart when I realized, "Oh, he's just PRETENDING to be nice so people don't know he's a bad guy!" I loved showing it to my little friends and being the smart onem
Rest in peace Richard Moll.
This is one of the few characters who did really well in the transition to TNBA. The Judge personality is really cool and expands on the character in an interesting new way. It doesn't retread old ground and it doesn't feel too weird.
Man, I love those moments when Two-Face is in shadow, and all you can really see is the white halftone of his tie
Love the in universe theory of the computer voice. Bravo!
I mean, BTAS did do more with Two-Face than the comic had for a while. I swear, most 'great' Two-Face stories I get told about are either a new version of the origin, or him getting his face fixed. There's never anything about his psyche, never anything about trying to help mentally instead of physically, hell half the time they seem to forget the dude was a DA. There's some out there, like his appearance in Gotham Central, or the first arc of All-Star Batman that actually used his DA origins, but it's few and far between. BTAS really shines through because of this, it explores Harvey as a character, probes the depths of what makes Two-Face tick, and even manages to continue this into TNBA with Judgement Day. Honestly, the two shows have about as many amazing, groundbreaking Two-Face stories as all the comics for the whole 50 odd years before them.
Note that I am not including the many imposter Two-Face characters that kept showing up in the Silver and Bronze Ages, for not only are they pale imitations, but they still do the exact same stories with almost no variation.
Yes, very well said about the comics. I think Faces by Matt Wagner came out around the time BTAS was airing, and I really like that story - mostly because of the art.
Two-Face is definitely one of the best villains in Batman's Rouge, BTAS is the definitive version of the character and also the more complex. RIP Moll
You made me go back and watch btas again. Two face is incredible in the series, I forgot as a kid why I love him so much. This might be the best two face ever . He has a purpose and I understands his motives, and is not just about his transformation.
I also love how two face go after other mobsters and befriend criminals he prosecuted . It shows depth to what the actions he is taking. Two face is not your generic greedy villain.He is trying find a new way to control the system that damaged him. He chose the dark side
Good Old Bruce, Always There, You Never Give Up on Me.
I seriously would like to see this character utilize a lot more and to his maximum potential. Batman the animated series did an amazing amazing job when it came down to this character.
It's just a shame that he's not utilized more because there are so much potential.
That version of Two-Face is one of the best looking ones I've seen. The tortured screams when he couldn't find his coin or make a decision, sometimes I thought Bruce should confront Harvey without the mask, as both sides do still care about him.
I absolutely love when Harvey tells Thorne "There's just one problem... *you're talking to the wrong Harvey!"*
I love this arc for Two-Face
We start with him helping Bruce and Gordon who are like brothers too him take down the big bads in Gotham. A very good example of this is when Poison Ivy deputed and Bruce went especially hard in her to cure his friend.
Then we have the big day where he's supposed to get rid of Thorne. But after one too many fuck ups Harvey's more angry and vengful side emergee even scaring Bruce. Despite all the therapy he gets nothing could fully kill "Big Bad Harv"
When facing the choice either he drip outta office or has hus mental problems released on to the public to destroy him image.His about to blow a fuse but the just smiles. I swear this smile is creepy as hell I don't know just something about how long it extends to an unnatural degree like kinda Joker mix with the voice.
Batman/Bruce shows up and he and his old chum almost escaped.....
And that's when the explosion happens.
When Harvey sees his transformation that scream is HORRIBLE and that reveal stil sends chilld down my spine.
I love how not only does his girl stick beside him but Bruce and Gordon for real want to cure him which leads into Second Chance where at this point Harvey has been Two-Face for so long that he has completely given up on a cure even when it's laying right there
A main reason why this show is so good is the villains we get to see their lives both on and off the battle ground which is something most writers tend to not do
Two Face was a tragic yet dangerous villain,Harvey Dent's mind was so horribly shattered it was like two people sealed in one body always at war with each other...a true example of being his own worst enemy. Batman was actually less of an enemy to him.
Since I was I kid I have always been obsessed with Two-Face as a character, I just can't explain why but I have always liked better the acid to the face in court idea.
However I have always treated the animated series as a standard for him and Batman in general, just perfection.
“Two Of A Kind” is one of my favorite Batman comics. So happy you mentioned it!
If you enjoy this version of Two-Face so much, I think you'll enjoy how Telltale handled the character in their Batman game as well. They really go hard with the psychological aspect of Harvey's character and the impact of his friendship with Bruce, and watching his descent into madness and villainy is nothing short of heartbreaking.
Thank you for recommending Two of a Kind, that was so amazing and heartbreaking and well written!
I also love how two face go after other mobsters and befriend criminals he prosecuted . It shows depth to what the actions he is taking. Two face is not your generic greedy villain.He is trying find a new way to control the system that damaged him. He chose the dark side
Two-Face is my second favorite Batman villain next to The Joker 🃏. Richard Molls Voice As Two-Face in Batman TAS was phenomenal. His raspy and growling voice was perfect for Two Face . When i read a Batman comic book book i hear Richard Molls voice as Two Face in my head .
RIP Richard Moll 😢😢
SECOND favorite? Two-Face would like that. Being number 2 would suit him just fine. XD
This man broke my heart with how much he clearly struggled internally. He’s got a special place in my mind.
Excellent work! I love this video, but why leave out The Judge? It adds to the character's storylines and highlights Harvey's sense of justice.
For the simple reason that his story took place in The New Batman Adventures. I don’t view it as a fourth season of BTAS, I view it as a different show - the same continuity, of course, but it’s very different. I’ll probably talk about Judgement Day in a separate video one day!
🪴Looking forward to this, for obvious reason, eheh... Two-Face is undoubtedly the villain that embodies the BTAS era of Batman the most, even moreso than the Joker we feel.
Of course, we could go for the simple straightforward answer of how he plays to both the highs and the lows of the series (specifically in the department of mental health focusing more on suppression/erasing alters instead of reforming them. Two-Face is ultimately his own person who deserves respect on that front), but we will say he's by far the most compelling character to become a villain for Bruce.
Harvey being good friends with Bruce Wayne, to the point we see him in multiple episodes before the scarring incident, is just good worldbuilding. It makes every encounter with Two-Face much more personal then other villains/antagonists can manage because Bruce simply cares. (If he cares about Two-Face or just Harvey that's up for debate, but still). We're honestly sad they didn't go farther on that with the New Adventures. Two-Face caused Tim Drake to become Robin, that feels like it should be more a sticking point...! We watched the last episode where The Judge surfaces (also his own person worthy of respect btw) and we can't recall if Bruce even mentions they used to be friends.
It's funny, recently a Two Face fan introduced us to the recent run of Gotham Nocturne. Where it establishes that "Big Bad Harv" was a coping mechanism to fight the abuse that Harvey got. And Harvey even admits that he does genuinely need Two-Face, even if they don't always get along. Speaking as a system ourselves, we think that's a very important step in the greater narrative of talking about Two Face. It humanizes Two Face when most writers tend to write him off as a bad symptom of a disorder instead of a person. (Still has him kill people so... you know. Baby steps.)
Whatever the video turns out to be, we're definitely on team "Probably the best depiction of Two Face". After all, if they didn't try introducing his plurality, we might not even be talking about it right now, would we?
(Also slightly unrelated note, in BTAS we typically interpreted Harvey as a man of color, does anyone else feel that way? We remember his skintone became extremely light in the Justice League and didn't really like that.)
I completely agree that BTAS Two-Face is African American - this is because Billy Dee Williams played Harvey Dent in Tim Burton's first Batman film and the creative team were encouraged to sync up with the films wherever possible - See Selina Kyle's blonde hair, "Jack Napier", and the design of The Penguin.
In The New Batman Adventures they dropped the references to the movies (for the most part), and Two-Face looked like he had been whitewashed, which I think was unnecessary. I don't know if this was deliberate, or if perhaps they were trying to tie him a bit closer to Tommy Lee Jones, but I will always prefer the original design.
@@SerumLake I always figured that BTAS Two-Face was half Caucasian and half Latino. Despite his appearance though, I'm pretty sure canonically he is Caucasian. A more famous example is Lex Luthor's appearance in Superman The Animated Series which quite a few people thought was African-American. I as a kid never thought that because in Greece I'm used to sometimes seeing people just naturally be very tan which is what I thought Lex was and considering his adjusted appearance in Justice League and Justice League Unlimited I think I was probably right.
@@The_PhantasmYeah, it's entirely possible that Harvey Dent was just intended to be ambiguous. Given that Lex's design was based on Telly Savalas, I can definitely see why you'd see him that way.
@@SerumLake It's funny because I had never made the connection that Lex's design was based on Telly Savalas until about five or six years ago but when I first saw the resemblance, I couldn't unsee it.
I’d love to see a breakdown comparing the merits of his origin stories as portrayed in TV shows, in the comics, in movies, different Batman video game series, and any other extended media.
Just when I thought I didn’t have anything else to say about Two-Face, you drag me right back in! 😂
"Good 'ole Bruce, always there. You never give up on me.." One of the best quotes ever from Two Face.
Personally, my favourite TAS villain is The Mad Hatter. While he isn't a personal foe for Batman, he does represent obsession, something Batman can relate to. Batman can control his obsession, but Jervis can not. His obsession over Alice drove him over the edge, and he turned into a twisted criminal. Also, he is arguably the one villain who came the closet to defeating Bruce. Not by killing him, but by trapping him in his own private Wonderland, where his parents are alive and he is engaged to Selina. And Bruce almost gives in to temptation. Bruce is a man who lost his childhood and accepts he can never get it back, while Jervis refuses to accept reality and wants to act out his fantasties, like a child.
In my opinion, Mad Hatter is the best villain from TAS. No offence to Dent. I love Two-Face, but I do not think the writers did enough to fully explore his character or his connection to the coin. Ironically, the TAS spin-off comics actually do a better job exploring Two-Face and his past. It helps that they were not restricted like the cartoon, so they were allowed to reference child abuse. I think one of the reasons Two-Face wasn't given more solo episodes was because the writers overused The Joker. The Joker has more solo episodes than most of the other rogues, Two-Face included. Even back in the 90s, Joker was hogging the spotlight.
Your argument is sound, and I can see why you'd feel that way. It also helps that Mad Hatter was voiced by the late, great, Roddy McDowall - he never gave a bad performance, even in that TNBA episode where he was controlling circus animals :)
Roddy playing his last role as the Hatter in the S: TAS episode "Knight Time" really makes me sad when watching that ep, I'll admit.
Twoface is an amazing villain. I love villains who used to be friends with the hero. I prefer twoface over joker.
Me too… 🤫
Never feel ashamed to admit that. Unfortunately WB is romanticizing the joker and now we have a bunch of kids who think he's this poor misunderstood victim...
only recently started getting into batman but twoface immediately became my favourite villain, hell hes one of my favourite characters altogether. his insanity is so interesting. he can be good, he has that capacity - and for him that decision relies on the flip of a coin. i liked the take the long halloween had on him aswell, or at least i liked how it let me interpret it. he was so stressed by being a lawyer, tired of fighting for justice. then there was a voice in his head saying "wouldnt it just be easier if you didnt have to decide" and the accident triggered him to listen to that voice. now he doesn't have to think about it, now he can relax and let the coin decide for him. he no longer has the job of fighting for justice, no judge to appeal to, no lawyers to argue with, no jury to sway - just an executioner, obeying the will of a coin
I personally welcome Two Face as king of England.
Excellent video! As a kid, I wasn't really too sure sure about his motivations as a villain, so I really appreciate this lovely dive into his character.
I've 2 bisected black & white suits made from a black suit and a white suit. 1 matches Two-Face and is used for cosplay, other has colours swapped and is my party suit.
very nice!
@@SerumLake they are. Best part: my mum made them for me.
Thanks for the birthday present! Always look forward to your uploads!
Many happy returns!
Couldn't agree more, Serum lake. While villains like Scarecrow and the Joker are good in their own right, I always liked the "personal villain" the most. Two-Face is one of Batman's personal villains due to their past in BTAS as friends but because of Rupert Thorne (I want to see a monkey throw poop at that scum bag as well as Daggett. XD) He ended becoming Two Face... BTAS Harvey Dent/Two-Face is a dang tragic character for sure... And feel even more bad for him in the black and white comics....
Oh yeah, criminals like Thorne and Daggett are among the worst. They don’t have a psychological illness driving them, it’s just greed and selfishness.
Maginficent! I've always shied away from stories where Two-Face was a simple fetishist about the number 2. (« _He robbed the Second National Bank !_ ») He's much more interesting when he's either a revenge antihero - like Batman, but conscienceless. Or even more so when he casts himself as the grand equivocator: _Blind luck made him his rise to the top of Gotham society and blind luck knocked him off his high perch. He will make sure everyone else gets the same opportunities. ( Which is another kind of revenge._ )
2:20 Thank you for this freeze frame. I would love an entire comic, or even movie poster, done with this image. Is Drew Struzan still in the game?
This is my all time favourite villain from Batman’s rouge’s gallery. Just a perfect villain to me. I’ve always loved contrasts, opposites, and parallels.
Btas and batman the audio adventures have solidifed twoface as my favorite batman villian
What an awesome episode again!!
Thank you!
it's awesome to see how well The Dark Knight Returns fits into this story of friendship and tragedy even though it was written before the animated series. Even after decades of brutal crime, Bruce still wants to bring his friend back and pays for every treatment and even puts his reputation on the line. It probably wasn't very popular for the Prince of Gotham to vouch for Harvey and try to get the public to be accepting of rehabilitating such a notorious criminal and killer.
Ah, if only The Long Halloween and Dark Victory can also fit in the Millerverse...
Honestly I’m surprised you didn’t talk about the Episode with The Judge. That was my personal favorite episode with Harvey
I generally make a distinction between Batman the Animated Series and The New Batman Adventures, and generally tend to focus on BTAS. I do plan on doing a video about The Judge later on though.
I just found out about “Two of a Kind” and absolutely adore it! My favorite part of the story is that Madelyn and Madeline kinda remind me of actress Bette Davis since she played polarizing twins in “A Stolen Life” and “Dead Ringer”.
RIP Richard Moll
2:51 There's more going on in this animation of Harvey's face than in the entire runtimes of modern "cinematic universes".
this series is honestly why two-face is my favorite villain
Something that struck me like a cord in Batman Arkham Knight, was the dialogue between Batman and Two-Face you get if you arrest Two-Face AFTER the main storyline. I can’t remember it word for word, but Two-Face is in shock that Batman and Bruce are the same person, and when he asks if it’s true, Harvey’s voice sounds shaky. Bruce pauses before answering, and simply says he’s sorry.
Why haven’t we seen a time where the coin landed on good and two face saves Batman and fights with him for a while? We always see it make choose the side of the villain
The only thing sort of like that is the end of "A Serious House On Serious Earth" where Batman agrees to let Two-Face kill him if he loses the coin flip but Two-Face lets him go. Only to reveal at the end of the comic that Batman had actually lost the coin flip but Harvey chose to let him go instead of listening to his coin.
Two Face was always my favorite Batman villain!
Loving your videos bro!
While Kevin Conroy’s 1st death anniversary was just yesterday, I want to give tribute to Richard Moll.
Two-Face is great because he is two sides of the same coin, and that coin is crazy!
Also my best cosplay ever was a homemade black and white Two-Face costume with makeup :D
Two Face > Joker
Second chance is a really great episode. I really like how Batman uses Harvey against himself. Makes me think of his duality.
YES, I've Been Waiting For This!! Two-Face Is My All Time Favorite Batman Villain! Mainly Because The Whole Personality Thing (I'm Apart Of A System Myself) What He Represents, And That Well He's Just So Fun To Draw. All Of Your Videos Have Been Amazing, And It's Clear You Have A Passion For This, So Thank You :) (Also I Don't Know If It's Wrong To Assume, But What Do You Think Harvey's Race Is In Btas?)
Thanks!
I view him as being African American, mostly because Billy Dee Williams played Harvey Dent in the first Batman movie, and I know they were encouraged to synergise with the films as much as possible (hence "Jack Napier", The Penguin's design, and Selina Kyle's blonde hair)
@@SerumLake Yay! Someone Agrees With Me! I've Actually Been Doing My Own Little Batman Project And I've Always Imagined Harvey As An African American
🎩hello!!! We’re a part of a system too! Recently our Annie fictive has interacted with this channel quite a bit from the Clayface connection, hahaha.
Considering they basically made Bruce canon plural in the comics, now Two-Face feels all the more logical as Batman’s actual foil antagonist. We love his design!
We quite agree with your sentiment, Harvey does seem to be African American from how he’s designed. It’s such a shame he just got lighter skinned as time went on.
@@TransPandaArt Yeah, Not The Biggest Fan Of How Harv Became Caucasian, And Pleasure To Meet You All :))
@@sherry-annsasmellyshrew6516 🪴 a pleasure to meet you all too...! Have you all heard of the recent zur-en-arrh plot in batman comics, by any chance...? They've really recently kinda... digged further into the plurality of things and we've love to hear another system's thoughts
Between richard mull, mark hamil, arleen sorkin, this show really had a cast of voice actors beyond pedigree.
I would like to clarify something that I have been seeing people say for years but I think they often exaggerate a bit. Harvey Dent and Bruce Wayne's friendship and Harvey Dent overall being an established character prior to his transformation into Two-Face like some people say he was and something that I guess is true but not to a very noteworthy extent. Harvey Dent's appearances were mostly brief and glorified cameos. He was a blink and you miss it cameo in On Leather Wings and he was barely in Pretty Poison where he wasn't even conscious for half of his minimal screen time and was mostly a plot device. Two-Face Part 1 is really his first truly memorable role. Much bigger issue for me is that the relationship between him and his new fiancé Grace is not really well built up to at all since we saw him in his previous appearance that he's been dating other people and so it a bit too sudden. They made the best out of it though and since it doesn't take away from the viewing experience, it's just some issues I have with it.
It seems everyone in the comments has an issues with TAS Two-Face. All I keep reading are criticisms.
@@zemox2534 I don't have a problem with Two-Face. I think he is an amazing villain and I just wanted to give some of my thoughts on certain aspects of the character.
Not everyone, mostly Phantasm 😉
@@SerumLake Again, not true. I was just pointing out a few elements that I think sometimes go unsaid. Two-Face is one of my absolute favourite comic book villains of all time and the things I mentioned are elements that I think sometimes hurt his amazing potential.
@@SerumLake I had made a small grammatical mistake at the end of the comment where it said that "it does take away from the viewing experience for me" and I meant to say that it doesn't take away from the experience.
I love this version of two face Batman the animated series really did him well even The mad hatter and scarecrow were great as well
As a PTSD guy (domestic violence all through my upbringing, also as an only child under a single parent), "Eye Of The Beholder" is THE origin story of Two-Face and... very relatable.
Dealing with a bipolar thing on top of trauma, I made my life's goal a sort of "reverse journey" of his, though -- While Harvey originally went off the deep end at one point, I gradually became more rational, collected... open... understanding (Yes, yes, still can be p****d off at times -- but much more reasonable and FASTER to "cool off" then way back when 😂).
Thank goodness for that character and the addictive fun/grievances of duality (y'know, once you begin judging things by that concept you can recognise it practically EVERYWHERE..! But that helped understanding).
Well, "One day, robin will FLY again" (umm, inside joke, he's my actual namesake 😅)
I feel like Richard Moll never got enough credit for his portrayal of two face. Dude gave a 10/10 performance.
excellent video
0:50 "I suppose I look queer but I'm not ashamed anymore"
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Bruce in BTAS lost some friends to crime, Harvey Dent became Two-Face, another became a Werewolf and Cameron Kaiser too.
Two face is so underrated he's such interesting character.
Shadow of the Bat is the actual Two-Face Part II. It's the hight point of his villainous career, even if the plot of Batgirl and Gill puts him in... second plane
I always felt immense sympathy for Two Face, the struggles between his personalities for control and all stemming from his abusive childhood is sad to see
I enjoy this review
Now, by the law, you must make another Poison Ivy video.
Eternal Youth storyboards will be coming in a week or two, schedule permitting!
Two-Face was always my favorite. I still have a (quite poorly drawn) picture I made of him when I was 8! I redrew a better version of it recently after I found it looking through my old drawings.
I even have a character that I made up that's really similar to Two-Face, but I wasn't thinking about him when I made up the character. He was a soldier named Ulrich who had half his face disfigured by gas in WW1. His girlfriend Rosamina was horrified upon seeing his face when he came home from the war, and she left him. Ulrich became depressed because of this, and turned evil. Years later Rosamina returned upon hearing Ulrich was imprisoned for life (due to war crimes in WW2.)
I am a major fan of how Two-Face gets a panic attack when he can't use his coin. As someone who has a lot of experience with anxiety, I know how debilitating losing your crutch(es) can be. I think it adds another layer to Two-Face, and I think the implementation is quite good.
That's just my two cents, though. 🥁
I felt that the show kind of held two face back in some ways because there wasn't much separation between Harvey and Big Bad Harvey, after the intro to the character, which is kind of why I like Scar face and the Ventriloquist more because you can see the two separate personalities play out on screen, the Gangster puppet and the humble man who could be a fine butler if not for his personality disorder
I loved animated two face when I was a kid.
Amen brother!!!
He isn't a big favorite of mine, but overall, I can understand why you, Stephen Trumble of Batman: Broken Promise fame, and many others are always awesomely hyped up because of his simple prescence. Oh, and can also say that his singular personality iterations feel more interesting to me nowadays compared to when I was a kid, who preferred the chatty split-personality iterations.
*"Bruce, good old Bruce, he‘s never given up on me."*
That line still hurts.
I remember watching the Tie-In Black and White comic with Harvey burning himself again and it's probably one of the saddest non-animated DCAU moment.
The way you describe two face makes it sound a lot like the actual story of Jekyll and Hyde, not 2 separate personalities but rather one side free of reservations
this is the two face i grew up with. and the voice acting is for a kids cartoon.
Very good video.
thanks!
I hope Two Face appears in the Matt Reeves Batman films at some point.
I'm pretty sure he will show up, given how much inspiration Reeves and co took from BTAS
@@SerumLakeI don't remember Riddler wearing a skin tight jigsaw style mask in TAS
They were one step away from that in TNBA, I swear... ;)
Iv had a sneaking suspicion since the first one that they might/could use Bella Real as that universes two face: lone idealistic politician etc. Would that work for anyone else or just me?
If he does I hope he's a friend and ally for the whole movie and doesn't turn into the villain till the sequel. Dark Knight screwed us over by not letting Harvey be Bruce’s childhood friend instead of the bland acting Rachel.
I think the thing this version is lacking is the emphasis on the Harveys belief of chance and how much he relies on it. Because it's 'fair'
I do somewhat wish that Bruce had revealed himself to Harvey. If anyone in his rogues gallery would keep it a secret and never act upon it, Two-Face would be that individual.
I like this version but I still think the best two faces are Batman Long Halloween/Dark victory and no-man's land two-face. Those versions just really added depth to the character
Two-Face is the perfect Batman villain
While Joker is the perfect counter to Batman
Harvey covers both Bruce and Batman, with his conflicting emotions
Two Face was played by Richard Moll? I will never feel the same way about Night Court again.
What’s the background music? And Two-Face is the only character in TAS that could be on the same level as the Joker. Mostly due to him being the Clown Prince of Crime and being voiced by Mark Hamil.
Kinda hard for to decide, While I do love the two part special for Two-face in this show, I also prefer the take on his in The Long Halloween due to the much longer build up to his character.
Two Face is one of very few villains I almost root for. Lived his life fighting corruption just to have it blow up in his face (no pun intended) with existing emotional instabilities leading him to go against the very system he served and failed him. Most of the people he targeted were the scum he tried prosecute giving them the justice the authorities couldn't in a more satisfying way. In the animated series, the real antagonist was Rupert Thorne.
For me Two-faces is in the same boat as the Riddler, a character that have a lot of narrative important but is very overshadowed by other villains as a threat in general.
Arkham-games managed to show that Dent has control over his obsession. He can plan operations and manage his gang without obsession hindering his faculties and seems quite sane and reasonable for Gotham gang boss. That is until he flips that coin and it's dumb luck does he go utterly psychotic or remain reasonable.
its quite sad seeing him become so damn obsessed with thecoin that he jsut cant function normally he must have that coin when he finally becomes two face
Do you think that this Two Face is a mutant because when I first saw him I think that he is half man, half mutant because I get the idea is supposed to be Jekyll and Hyde but like in Arkham city and the Dark knight it’s just a burnt scar on the which the Dark knight doesn’t seem to have spilt personality disorder just a bitter and depressed man, but I do wonder what this Two Face would look like in full form of the monster half, but I guess that the Judge isn’t this video then?
No, Two-Face isn't a mutant, he's a disfigured man whose trauma is visible for everyone to see.
Note that I tend to tag the shows I am talking about in the title of my videos. So, this one is talking about Batman the Animated Series, not The New Batman Adventures (they are different shows, with the same continuity, despite what the DVD releases claim)
@@SerumLake well how can you explain why his skin is blue and his hair is white and I know I’m not a psychiatrist but I really don’t how split personalities work
@@srstriker6420 chemical burns ;)