Why Am I Doing Daily Studies ? (and why you should avoid pinterest)

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  • Опубліковано 6 лип 2024
  • discussion with / danielolenskiart about daily studies.
    100% improvised, so if I forgot things that you think important, feel free to write it :)
    00:00-differences between photos studies and master paintings studies
    19:10-why am i doing daily studies
    35:29-look at the references of your own references

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  • @ratglyph
    @ratglyph 7 місяців тому +14

    Notes from the vid:
    ### Pinterest photos VS Movie still VS Master study
    #### Pinterest
    - - studying from 2D image
    - - scrolling- you take unnecessary amount of time to find the reference you want to work from
    - - edited photos
    - instead of "raw input" you're painting from a photo which someone already modified to be more appealing (at that point, just go do master studies)
    - + forced to translate/interpret yourself
    - + a lot of options
    - + nice looking image for Instagram
    - **you should not aim for this**
    - doesn't help you learn
    #### Master Studies
    - - studying from 2D image
    - + **knowledge of the master**
    - + narrative
    - + composition
    - + technique
    - + translation of light/values
    - + a lot of options
    #### Movie/Game Screenshots
    - + knowledge (intentional use of composition/lighting etc.)
    - + narrative
    - because people are usually familiar with the original, you're more engaged with making it look appealing/detailed
    ### Why do Daily Studies?
    - learning
    - having fun experimenting/exploring
    - freedom to do whatever you want to study
    - **discipline**
    - long-term growth
    - motivation isn't going to cut it, because if you're feeling motivated is outside your influence
    - this makes you dependant on outside circumstances
    - "mastery" of drawing/painting takes years of dedicated practice- therefore doing dailies is a big help :)
    ### Sidenotes
    - you should study specific painters who's work you enjoy
    - to gain knowledge from specific masters is to dedicate multiple studies to a single painter
    - to understand style of specific artists, think about their influences- who were they learning from/studying, what references they used
    - **think about why you're choosing a specific reference, what do you want to learn from it**

  • @dailystudies1
    @dailystudies1  7 місяців тому +2

    sorry for the mic volume of Daniel, forgot to change my settings in twitchstudio

  • @vygovery
    @vygovery 7 місяців тому +4

    Great talk. I think you mention some very important points that I needed to hear myself.
    I started using Pinterest extensively about a year ago and recently began to feel off using it. The way I "studied" (not really, lol) was the way I social media works.
    - Cool image -> Like -> Copy. Realizing that really hurt me hah, but only for the better.
    So asking myself what is my actual intention behind the painting helps me focus on the things I want to study.
    Through the product/painting, we can see into the master's knowledge and tools.
    Thanks for uploading this to UA-cam. There's a lot of valuable advice.

    • @dailystudies1
      @dailystudies1  7 місяців тому +2

      thanks for your comment,
      that's also how I started daily studies, and now I know that's a bad idea in a certain way, but without it I'll not be doing daily studies probably, cause starting with master paintings studies is a bit boring for different reasons when you start.
      you're welcome, maybe i'm gonna make more content like that, but more elaborate and clear

    • @vince-1337
      @vince-1337 7 місяців тому +2

      I did the same in the past without good fundamental, and it was a big Fail. And since the last year, I retry to paint "bad" photo with tumblr stuff (over flash, bad exposition/contrast..) and it's way more easier after lot of master studies.

  • @juliengauthier6379
    @juliengauthier6379 7 місяців тому +1

    "Why you would do this study, and not another one" is probably the key phrase of this talk for me :D The goal is not to just copy, it's to learn.
    Thank you for posting it. It is always good to remind ourselves sometimes of these important principles.
    Although I can add that studying photo is okay if you give yourself some twist. Craig mullins was giving some exercices such as paint from old Black and white photo to color, paint from a different point of view than your reference, or transfert the style of another image/painter or change the lighting scenario, mix elements. You change one variable or more at the time to make it more and more challenging. You will slowly get better at creating things from imagination after that :D

    • @dailystudies1
      @dailystudies1  7 місяців тому +1

      Thanks man! When I'll have free time I think I'll made a good video about all of this subject cause that's important in my opinion, and a lot of art student makes confusion. Yes Mullins, as the goat, gives you amazing exercices to do. I should do more of them, definitely

  • @f16madlion
    @f16madlion 6 місяців тому +1

    I allways liked this painting of leo tolstoy, I think both have advantages, in photos can build visual library of objects which can help in concept design and develop your own shorthands and abstractions which painters will have alrerady done for you. Of course the opposate is also true

    • @dailystudies1
      @dailystudies1  6 місяців тому +1

      yes i use it everyday for concept :))

  • @siegfreidx1633
    @siegfreidx1633 7 місяців тому +1

    what im getting studying master from life in a museum is the best and preferable compared to studying master from photo right ? also was this recorded froma discord call ?

    • @dailystudies1
      @dailystudies1  7 місяців тому

      yes I replied to you on discord :) and also yes, we were discussing about it with daniel, so I asked him if I could record it in case it will be intersting.

  • @asfandyaralam7180
    @asfandyaralam7180 6 місяців тому +1

    How is the louis course treating you? :)

    • @dailystudies1
      @dailystudies1  6 місяців тому

      I didn't get the question sorry, you mean what do I think of it?

    • @asfandyaralam7180
      @asfandyaralam7180 5 місяців тому

      yes! I noticed the brushes so felt like asking :)@@dailystudies1

  • @prithe12
    @prithe12 7 місяців тому +1

    do you have discord channel?

    • @dailystudies1
      @dailystudies1  7 місяців тому +1

      yes sir; that's not mine, morrokai's one, but feel free to join it! : discord.gg/8BNw9HTN

    • @prithe12
      @prithe12 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@dailystudies1 thanks! also who is the artist you mention who does an interpretation of spike's ship design. name is chinese so i didnt understand haha

    • @dailystudies1
      @dailystudies1  7 місяців тому

      @@prithe12 Feng zhu! He made a lot of tutorials for concept art