I feel bad for the bus- teenager! 😢 He wants to go to university, but didn't even go to high school. The dad wants his kids to learn & was quite shocked that his son couldn't count. But the mother wants to be a "Free Spirit" she is so selfish & irresponsible. She is not even concerned that her kids can't write & read. Does she want them to depend on her their whole life?
I don’t believe she wants her children to be entirely dependent on her as they gradually reach adulthood. She seems delusional to me. The way she spoke of how anything can be learned, I truly believe she thinks her children will naturally figure out what they want to do in life almost entirely on their own. All she wants to do is support their independent choices with her limited capabilities. It’s a truly unfortunate circumstance.
Dude I wanted to cry when his wife wouldn’t listen to a word he said… he’s right they need basic learning!! I don’t think anything is wrong with that! I agree public schools don’t always teach the best life lessons but obviously learning to spell, add & subtract etc. is very important for life..
Hippie dad is talented as hell. I really hope he can see that and make something of and for himself (and his adorable family). Hippie mum needs to stop imposing her "ideologies and principles" on her family. She's the real dictator 😔
@@ArjanSingh-fv9qd sadly, I can't seem to find it. I'm assuming it doesn't exist. He and his family do have a Facebook page that has a lot of his photos.
When I heard unschooling I was like wtf, I'm pretty sure it's illegal for kids not to go to school up until it's time to go to college, I mean I've heard of exceptions, but usually those consisted of having a family emergency and the kid had to drop out in order to support the family, but having your kids not enrolled in school because you don't feel like it? Girl...
I homeschooled my children and eventually moved to unschooling. But, it was nothing like this. I just didn’t follow any particular curriculum. I looked for educational opportunities in everyday life like shopping, reading maps and bus schedules and so much more. My oldest just completed her masters degree. My youngest is teaching English online. All four are well educated and gainfully employed.
Ya that's not doing the kid any favors. My son is 10 and I've always stressed to him how important his education is, and try to help him as much as I can. I think we need to go back to some more old-fashioned values where we really teach kids about and value education, hard work, family...those types of morals. But hey, that's just me.
I am horrified for Angeline's children. Not JUST because of their unhygienic home or lack of education, but because of Angeline's alarming behavior when challenged. She had an absolute tantrum. There's something very wrong going on there. Tenille was lovely, such a gem.
I agree with some of the things she does but only to a certain degree, you have to have structure in a family other wise it will be very close to or will collapse just like hers
I think perhaps Angeline felt overwhelmed and ganged up on but it was very alarming nonetheless. Her kids deserve to learn the fundamentals and she's doing them an absolute disservice not teaching them how to read or write or basic math. Tennile was much more open minded than I expected her to be, but I do think she could stand to let her kids be more independent and have hobbies that are their own. Angeline was so one track minded about "unschooling" that she refused to admit her kids might actually want some aspects of schooling. I also think she's selfish about the nomadic lifestyle and refused to admit that it's HER forcing the kids to go along with it instead of a "democracy". Just subtle manipulation.
Of course they do, their instincts kick in that something is terribly wrong here. If she continues like that, her own kids might deny her in the future. They can hold a lot of resentment for taking so many things away from them. And no, kids cannot do as they want, this just leads to disaster. Democracy is just a sad excuse of lazy parenting. This will just turn all boomerang on her in the future, if she refuses to change.
In the first couple of minutes, I thought Tenille was going to be an awful barbie and Angeline would have my vote. Ewwwww, how wrong I was. The fact that her kids dont know colours or how many fingers are being held up, is just sooooo sad. Some of Tenille's kids are brats and spoiled and Zip sucks, but at least the kids have some kind of choice. Ironically enough, self professed 'free spirit' Angeline, actually gives her kids no choice whatsoever.
Yeah, it's pretty crazy too that the colour they didn't know was green and that's the main colour you see everywhere in nature where they supposedly learn how to live.
I believe in unschooling to an extent, I agree public school isn't the answer but Jesus how do your kids not know colors numbers, letters alot of kids learn those things just by living before kindergarten. It's really sad who will they even be.
@@topanga7175 smh.There are folks that dont have citizenship of US who would dream to go to good schools if only, but there are these citizens it seems that waste their opportunity to do so.
The ironic thing about the hippie mom is that she is so stuck in her ideology about “openness” and “freedom”, yet she is very narrow minded and inflexible.
A lot of liberal and new age people are like that. I notice they look down on people like Christians for supposedly being judgmental and oppressive, but they are quite often that way, themselves. The free thinking, I accept everyone and everything has limits - as soon as they meet someone who had an opinion or belief other than theirs, they like to mock it or are not very understanding.
I need consequences for the absolute NEGLECT OF THOSE KIDS. They need to be taken away! The parents should have serious consciences for their child abuse 'unschooling'
I believe in giving yourself freedom to live, but if you don't learn how to do hard things, you won't know how to deal with them. That's what ends of giving you freedom. You need to know about the world around you. School can teach you that if you pay attention. It's about a balance.
The moment she opens her mouth, you knew she is incapable of learning anything and THAT is the real reason she doesn’t want her unfortunate children to learn anything. She wanted “democracy” for martial arts training, but was unwilling to even discuss allowing the children to learn. Imagine, having children who don’t know the names of colours and can’t count to 2 - and still refuse to educate them.
Really thought I was gonna hate the rich mom but she’s actually really sweet and supportive. I do think her children are a bit stuck up, especially Ella. Very uppity.
I feel like the hippie mom was let down by the school system and it scarred her emotionally. And so she's scared it will let down her children too. But that doesn't mean she should stop educating them all together. She needs guidance from a counselor and so she can balance their education AND let them choose their path.
ikr?? depriving ur children of basic education is just evil and is setting ur kids up for failure. if she didnt want them in the school system she couldve easily signed them up for an online homeschooling thing. i say that option bcuz i doubt she would be able to properly homeschool them herself and tutors are expensive and they dont have a lot of income. so best option is online homeschooling!! it also gives her kids the chance to move up faster than a public school in their education and then once they finish they will have all the time in the world to study any of their passions.
@@fuzzysharks2437 If they need the Internet they’re always moving around they don’t have an address to with moving around and letting the kids pick where they wanna go they could be going anywhere they don’t give a crap at all
I agree. School system are usually tailored to a narrow intellect set, so she may have gotten bad grades, or not passed, but have the social skills needed to survive in trades, which school systems aren't exactly geared towards. Education is about brain development just as much as what you actually learn. Her kids aren't going to develop the ability to learn with absolutely no structure or discipline. There's not a single person in their profession of choice who didn't do things they didn't want to do to get there. I think that she feels bc she failed it was bc of the school system, but it was actually bc of her parents teaching her that the stystem is more than what it is, it's a tool to help you get somewhere, not a system that promises something.
I couldn't agree more. I'm a very open minded, free thinking person too. I see the flaws in the education system!! So totally understand wanting to educate outside of the system. But they're not actually doing anything at all! I normally love watching these shows, but this one wasn't enjoyable at all because it was so sad. When your child says when he grows up he wants to collect cans for money, how does that not break your heart?? At least if she was teaching something at all, like homesteading... farming, anything where they're learning something, it would have made me feel better. I can't believe the show even agreed to this honestly. It's abuse by neglect. And to bring in 8 kids into this?? The mom has coached the kidsso much to say they hate school too. It's to the point where they know they are hurting mom if they say anything pro school. It's devastating. The kids need a go fund me.
Angeline is saying how she wants her kids to choose their life and do what makes you happy but her oldest son clearly wants to be in school or at least do some school work and she shuts him down... I’m confused how it’s even legal for her to do this to her kids, and they don’t even get privacy, the oldest is 16! She’s a terrible parent.
In my country you can't home school your kids .kids need to have so many years of education. If you don't take them to school there is consequences for the parents. whe have al sorts of schools katholic Christian public Montessori and something called the free school It would have fit the hippie mom the free school. How can you keep your kids from schooling .let them diside for them selfs when they grown-up if they want a working life or free life. The poor kid how can he study when he didn't do high school.
@@keay.8085 lol it’s more like dictatorship in that house hold. She literally doesn’t even try too listen to her husband, it has to be all her way or no way.
As someone who was "unschooled" and then dropped into public school freshmen year: I will never ever support unschooling. I was so behind the other students and I'm still learning things that I never knew that are basic knowledge. I ended up dropping out because I can't handle the shame&pace. PLEASE don't unschool your kids :(
Have you tried online learning ? You can get qualifications from that and depended on what you use , you won’t feel the pressure pf being with other people and having people to compare yourself to .❤️
@@Amanda-el9dx I think it really depends on the parents but in my case it was literally just no school, which I think should be classed as child abuse tbh!
In many European countries education is a human right. Either you like it or not you have to bring your kids to school. That is the way to go for the rest of the world as well. Parents shouldn't be allowed to ruin their kids future with that unschooling bullshit.
@@vampire7240 I feel so sorry for you, don't feel ashamed, it's not your fault. It's never too late to learn though. This is in fact criminal here in Sweden, and also in Germany. In fact, all homeschooling is criminalized. I think that's on the other extreme end though. Homeschooling should be allowed as a form of protest of a shitty school system, but children should take part in the yearly national tests, and if they fall behind too much, the parents should not be allowed to continue their homeschooling.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Angelina’s children all leave by the end and blame her in the long run! It’s so sad to see how much tantrums she throws for just someone talking to her calmly! She seriously needs to address that! That was a lot to watch!
This is not a family, is just a little cult she created for herself, the most selfish one because she didn’t even seduce adults to her cult, she just makes baby. She clearly needs to work on her traumas before thinking she knows what is best for her children. People who try to isolate others like she does, pretending to be a hippie, are very dangerous. She is not even a hippie. Imagine if they all had instruments and crafts they did all day. She just consumes fuel and has bird in a cage. A bunch of children abandoned in a bus, the youngers still don’t understand it but this was one disturbing episode. Don’t they have social services in Australia? This was sad.
it was really enraging hearing her say “popular vote wins”,” democracy matters”, etc. BUT THEN DICTATING WHAT HER FAMILY DID LIKE LET THEM VOICE THEIR OPINIONS
exactly, if she actually kept her word and let her kids decide what they wnated to do about things like schooling i would see no issue but when the couples were together discussing and bob said that should talk about it she straight denied it. she wasnt interested in changing whatsoever, and she is not considering the choice of her kids unless its confined to how she wants their lives to be.
Fax it was beyond me literally like how can you really say democracy but then in the car with your husband she said he can have 2cents but I have 5 like what. if your not going to school your kids at least have them know basic education.
Her husband clearly wanted the kids to do the schoolwork as did the kids, but she shut it down immediately. It seems a lot like the husband is just doing as she says and if she didn't want to live in a bus they wouldn't be. Seems like she's the only one enjoying the lifestyle they have.
I personally feel that the hippie mom is instilling some form of abuse here. I mean, dirty living, small quarters, no structure, no preparation for the real world, complete isolation from the community.
Definitely abuse… what if a man did this to a woman. Sheltered her from the world, refused her an education, no autonomy or emotional freedom. Those kids are terrified of her. Total narcissist
it is abuse in the form of neglect- black water to clean clothes is a contradiction. glad she brought a new washing machine because whats the point in cleaning if the waters black that was dumb
Yet when Angeline wanted to teach the other children “math” she assumed they could multiply her height to estimate the height of the tree - but her own children cannot even count to TWO!! “How many leaves are on this stem? - 31. So how many are on two? - 62. There ya go. That what you need to know about math.”
Omg, I am fighting tears when that sweet little kid says he wants to collect cans for money when he grows up. Omg, that's all he sees. He can't even add up the money he's been collecting. This is so sad... All because of their parents "choice".
The school system passed my grandpa by and by the time he was out of high school he couldn’t read same with his siblings and they were very poor my grandpas brother collects cans and does other jobs but he can read now but it’s not a bad thing to collect cans to earn a living when I was younger we weren’t poor but my granny would show us my cousins, siblings, and I that’s a way to earn money cause no ones just gonna give it to you we collected cans too for pocket change when we’d spend the summer with her that’s the way some people earn their money and we shouldn’t look down on them for it
I need consequences for the absolute NEGLECT OF THOSE KIDS. They need to be taken away! The parents should have serious consciences for their child abuse 'unschooling'
They said one of the youngest children "barely understands English "?! She's not giving them a choice. She also said "this is our dream, our kids are just along for the ride " so she knows it
@@lindseysanford1843 , given the method of the show, there is an extreme difference between one and the other, I guess it’s for entertainment only. In this particular episode I feel that Tennille was extremely more engaging than Angeline. Given the fact that both had numerous children in their care, I thought that children really would benefit from a healthy education, we are living in very demanding times and every thought should go into the future for our children’s sake. Yes, we don’t need Karate classes, but then again, pitched against Angelina, do we really have to take back our children into the Neanderthals? The opinions of Tenille’s daughter was only a bait for viewers.
I actually looked Bob up so I could see his photography, and he is amazing!!! I'm glad he followed up with actually putting his photography out there- I'm looking at a few I would love to buy
No. She was peeved with her husband for not supporting her, at the time, AS SHE PLAINLY SAID, as you would be too. She must have felt like she was attacked from all angles and i dont blame her for being reactive, AS YOU WOULD BE TOO. DUH!!!!
@@Catcvcv of course. Im a mum. However, my child hasnt attended school for 12 months. I tutor her at home and i actually have done a better job of teaching her subjects than the school. The lady in the video is correct - so much can be taught that is worthy outside a school setting. The whole point i have been trying to make on here is that if people opened their minds a bit more, they might start to realise that their values and ideas are biasing them to start with...thinking school is superior is a very common reaction. It doesnt necessarily boil down to the mothers "feelings" either. Also, if it is her feelings, well she might actually have some legitimate ones. There are far too many assumptions made for my liking, without even considering alternate reasons. And thats what i object to.
Tenneil was really a light to the Walker family. She had such encouraging words for the teens, especially Bob. You can see how Angelina shuts down Bob. He has little confidence, he even doubts himself. She's so negative. Her family is suffering because she's too mad at the world.
Indeed. She needs to heal from her childhood trauma. She thinks she is giving her kids freedom to do whatever they want but honestly making is making life choices for them 😮sad. Poor husband too.
@@JANEdirtshe gives a bad name to people living an alternative lifestyle. Imagine if she studied herbalism, knew beautiful crafts and they all had instruments or had a garden, and lived in a community being homeschooled, that would be at least something. She doesn’t teaches them anything! How are the youngers going to learn how to read and count? They ll just be easy prey for criminals. She isolated her family, they don’t go to school but there is nothing else as an alternative. They can’t even reach out for help because they don’t have friends because they are always on the move. She is a psycho.
The structured mom is amazing 👏 I could see the hippie mom's husband was a bit sad when she told him he must make more money but her approach was not judgy or condecending. She was kind, affirming and supportive which really made him consider the idea. Also loved how she is concerned for the kids health and future. We all want to live in lala land but the world is rough and sometimes you got to do what you don't want to. The hippie mom is a bully to her husband and kids. She has manipulated her family to think the kids have the upper hand but she knows the kids will always echo her sentiments and choices because she controls them. The rich mom's approach may seem tough now but she is really prepping her kids for the real world. The hippie family's kids will grow up to hate their parents when life gets tough and they can't get jobs to support themselves and their families. All jobs needs some level of literacy, her taking the opportunity to get a formal education from her kids is a form of abuse. She is raising kids with no life skills that won't be able to fend for themselves and their families. Crippling them for life.
Steve had a nice expensive camera and computer. Also, the world is less frightening for a child if they have a routine instead of the horrible chaos of their life in the bus.
the hippie dad wants to change but of course he’s gonna listen to his wife. The hippie wife feels like her way is the smartest way which it’s not because her kids won’t know the basics of life
Tenille was actually really great for the bus family, she really surprised me with how patient, open-minded and helpful she was to all of them. Meanwhile I don't think Angeline had much to offer the 'cashed-up' family. Not because she's a hippie or anything, but because of who she is as a person and her absolute commitment to 'unschooling.'
I completely agree. You can tell this easily by the goodbyes to the children. Angelina barely paid the children any mind while Tenille made an effort to say goodbye to (probably though we don't see) every child. In scenes prior, when Angeline was first having a meal with the new family, she immediately began to force her opinions and divide the family. However, with Tenille, she did listen and seeked to understand the bus and irs residents. Also, Angeline could not handle a work out and cried while Tenille just addressed what had to be done. What a champ.
Angeline is also such a closed minded idiot, she straight up can't take critique and gets angry like a huge baby in reaction. I feel bad in the sense that she most likely had a sad childhood. A good lesson learned will come from her husband leaving with his kids and having better lifes without her. Maybe then she'll regret her ignorant mindset. She was given a chance after all.
@Aguest But them she proceeds her children to participate on her "Democracy". "Democracy" wich is her deciding to forgot about human rights (of education and health care to children) complete wrack job of a mom, woulb call the cops on her
Tenille is an Angel! She is light which breaks the darkness of the family’s life. I am so happy the family began to change thanks to her wisdom and patience! Especially the father Bob is changing!
Way to go dad!! He stood his ground for his children. He knows schooling is in the best interest of the kids and it is. I pray they get the education they need and i pray both families stay safe and all of the children will be successful loving Christlike young men and women in the name of Jesus. Amen
Why it’s perfectly legal and it’s a perfect Lee great system and way of life it teaches kids to actually be excited to learn no that’s how schooling used to be before we actually have school scheduled learn from experience and life that is the best way to do it she should not have gotten her children taken away at all in fact she should’ve been given an award for mother of the year
@@samanthaboyd3404 who would agree with that. 1 they live in a bus which is not a good place for kids to be living in. 2. They have no school whatsoever they should at least be homeschooled whether the kids like it or not and 3rd they practically let their kids do whatever they want. And I may add that her oldest son hadn't even done high school
@@caytlynbaugher2613 and schooling is a form of homeschooling it just doesn’t fit into peoples typical idea of schooling for one every child is different just because certain children on a custom to living a certain lifestyle doesn’t mean it’s not good for them obviously they still need some space but they have the whole outdoors that gives them space and three so many people raise their children like they’re a drill sergeant and like it’s the military and dictate every little action that they do obviously some structure needs to be there but the children need to be children because that’s what they are they’re not Adults adults are the first want to say that children are missed behaving or they’re not acting right when most of the time it’s the parents fault because not only are they encouraging bad behavior by bad behavior themselves but they’re claiming it all on the kid when he doesn’t responsible for any other actions that’s all of their parent obviously feel like our older some of the responsibilities that they need to take on all their fault or things like that but you need to look at it from a broader perspective you’re being very close minded and plus this is how schooling used to be before the industrial revolution and they wanted to teach everybody to be robots children would sit there and they would learn the basic stuff like adding subtraction multiplication division they wouldn’t learn about geometry or algebra and they would learn basic life skills and basic education skills they wouldn’t be forced to learn all this information that they do not need in the rain but the industrial revolution needed robots they didn’t need workers they need a robot so they change the school system to turn students and children into robots when they grow up obviously not physically I’m speaking metaphorically and now that we actually have physical robots to do these jobs we do not need robot thinkers anymore and the education system just hasn’t caught up with the rest of the world like I said you need to take a look from another perspective that’s all those children have known and they are turning out just fine they may not be learning what you think they should know at certain stages in their life but that doesn’t mean you’re not learning important stuff most kids who owns school learn reading and writing in the things that they need they just do it at their own pace because we really as humans learn our own pace it’s unnatural to force someone to sit there in a classroom and learn for eight hours a day it’s not only an unnatural it’s terrible for you as a person and it’s just not good it’s completely unnatural and disgusting and it’s been normalized but it’s not OK
@@samanthaboyd3404 one of the children couldn't even recognize 2 fingers, the other one didn't even know colours I don't think that is ideal for children not to learn very basic skills in life.
I agree , although i think the kids should have a bit more freedom but teaching them discipline and things that are harder to learn and get used to when theyre older is good
Everyone needs education and discipline, otherwise they’re fucked. It wasn’t even 13 minutes into the video and I was ranting like crazy about the hippie mom’s stupidity.
no she is wrong she is putting to much pressure on those kids.. Those kids are afraid to make a mistake those kids will crak at some point. having discipline is one thing being to controling is another.. That mother is self rightgess thinks her shit dont stink i see her kind all the time her kids will fall and it will be her fault.. you have to let kids be kids and have discipline you have to let them have an opion or say when mom and dad make all your life choices they will never be able to live up to her standards.. This mother will never understand when one of her children fail..
@@jenniferstone3205 Yeah fr, the oldest was literally talking about how she'd prefer to be around people with degrees because "it's what she's supposed to be around"
I thought I was going to hate Tanelle, but she was absolutely amazing. She genuinely cared for the kids and had actual conversations with everyone and listened and heard them. She did not try and discredit hippy moms choices but through talk opened the children's eyes to other possibilities. She is a real gem and I think the phrase " behind every successful man, is a strong woman" was invented for people like her. In the few days she already managed to motivated and steer hippie dad a step forward in the way of success. She did jobs I thought she would have not done, she braced it and did what she had to do. She walks the talk and talks the walk. She remained respectful, calm and composed even when hippie mom went outof her way to be rude and impossible. The welcomes back at their respective home says it all. Hippies mom is a narcissist, she is all for democracy when she is getting her way- her poor poor family..
The thing I loved was the changes she made, she kept it in line with their lifestyle. She didn't try to fully uproot them or try to alter the dynamics to be like her family.
No fr, like I can understand what the hippie mom meant about school, but school is meant to build minds and futures too. And although most famous people didn't need a high school diploma to succeed in life, it's easier than going for your GED and not having any type of education to help study for it. Also, the living conditions, she's a democrat so ik she's prochoice, so why would you choose to have 5-6 kids (not rlly counting) knowing you wouldn't be able to provide a good living environment for them? i understand if its money wise, but it just seems like they want to do the least possible not only for themselves but for their kids too. like absolutely none of her kids have any privacy and neither does she, and that's the most important thing to consider when having kids too. And the washing machine?? that's sooo disgusting to just wash yours and your children's clothes in DIRTY water, like bffr girl what is that cleaning? at the end of the day its not about being conservative or democratic, we saw a very loving and nurturing mother who wants the best for all kids involved, and then we have the one who only really thinks about herself and not her children and what they would need. praying those kids get out of there and never speak to that witch again fr
Very very glad bob pointed out how Angeline's hatred of school is rooted in her own experience. A lot of her behavior is obviously rooted in some sort of trauma that she refuses to deal with, which is why she continues to act like a three year old throwing a tantrum.
@@eurekaelephant2714 You sound a lot like someone dealing with some level of cognitive dissonance lol. Judging for your response for this and other comment.
@@nikstar1313 theres too many value judgements and assumptions made. People reach for an easy conclusion that suits their own value system, rather than pausing to challenge themselves first.. Its also a very common reaction to normal homeschooling, (not unschooling, which is what the lady in the video is doing). I know because Im a homeschooling parent. To assert that trauma is an inevitable source really is slack. This might not be the case at all. Thankyou for your politeness and your unwillingness to not let fly personal insults. Xo
@@fuzzysharks2437 That’s the point they don’t need a basic education their learning from experience there on the younger side so they aren’t there yet they don’t learn things in the order we traditionally learn them but they do learn them many people go on schooling for their entire a younger education and they turn out successful and happy and not robots what most people go through the regular education system are like
Agreed and plus this womans own insecurities and traumas of not making friends at school is making her children think they wouldnt make friends or get the social skills they need
@@samanthaboyd3404 this isn't unschooling though that the other parents do. There's still schooling involved and those that are successful are either turning to homeschooling or schools in their later years.
at first i thought tenille was going to be full of herself but it’s the exact opposite. after seeing the condition the other family lives in and how she cleaned up and gave the kids some type of education really makes me see that she’s a good person
These ladies are both why you should never judge a person's character based on appearance. Tenelle is an awesome chick and is spot on. I'm a hippy and love the idea of travelling with my family and let them experience nature and stuff. However children need a routine. They need school I really worry for Angelines children once they grow up and try to figure out their way in life. I feel like Angeline is selfish and is only thinking about her feelings.
@@nate2759Indeed. How will they eat when they never learned to make an effort? Even normal hippies would grow their own vegetables. Each one of these children will be deeply ashamed of their parents when some day they make friends or even a romantic partner. A girlfriend or boyfriend will notice the body odour and the stench of their clothes “washed” in filthy water. It’s revolting.
no but one of the kids looked like he was about 4/5 and didn’t know the father was holding up 2 fingers.. this is scary. the mum is being selfish and stubborn. She needs to get those children into school ASAP!
My son is two and he started counter sooner like 1 3 9 🤣 it was funny cause he was trying so I tought him "no love its 1 2 3 and now he does it up to 5 🥰😅
Don't understand why social services haven't stepped in..the father is willing to make changes but the "hippi mum" is pyschologically abusing the children..she I not fit to be a mother..whatever she went through in school..the children SHOULD NOT have to pay for it..this is wrong..
For the rich family..structure is good butbthe children need to be children and should enjioy their childhood..do family activites that does not entail exercising or shopping in expensive stuff..children need to learn how to be content when they have and don't have and the true value of life..anything can happen..
Social services needs to do a check on those kids living in that filthy bus. These kids need an education, it’s vital. Something is wrong with those parents. This is awful. But people are just letting it go. Someone needs to do something.
coming from someone who has an actual hippie mom: the hippie mom is incredibly neglectful for a “hippie mom”. my mom is a total hippie (loves nature, natural remedies, “free-living”, believes in kindness and equality towards earth and animals, dream life is living in a van and traveling everywhere), but she’s also pretty strict on cleanliness and hygiene and taught me and my sibling to respect our space. my mom also made sure to try and get me and my sibling the best education we could get to make sure we were set in our adulthoods. hippie living and free living are about making your own decisions in life, sure, but as the rich mom was saying sometimes you do have to do stuff that you don’t want to do. Getting to choose what kind of life you want to live also means having the choice for a more structured life.
I need consequences for the absolute NEGLECT OF THOSE KIDS. They need to be taken away! The parents should have serious consciences for their child abuse 'unschooling'
In my country, keeping kids from school is a crime punishable by law. I'm so glad that it is. Not giving kids formal education is child abuse which has life long effects like most other types of abuse.
In my country if a kid doesn't show up to school for too long the parents are supposed to get arrested.. i never seem it happen tho and it's honestly sad seeing people not care about education
@@rule6090 having proper education is one of the foundations of solving world problems. So stop acting like people can’t do and worry about more then one thing. If that’s all you can do then get off of UA-cam and educate yourself first :)
I wish people stop calling her a hippie mom. She's just plain irresponsible. I know a lot of actual hippie moms who have their kids best interest, their health, emotional well being and education.
@@mridul7639 calling her „hippie mom“ doesn’t mean insulting her? she’s just a hippie mom because of her way of thinking or her style and stuff but it’s not an insult
I'm a hippie mom but I'm not this irresponsible...she just wants to live her life through her children....she's so selfish and doesn't really care about her children's well-being
Not even providing the very basics in education such as reading and writing is absolute neglect! I think they get away with it because they are on the road with no address, so no county to intervene for the children. Bus mom is doing her children a great disservice. If she wanted freedom she should not have married and had EIGHT kids.
I was looking in the comments to see if anyone DID call Australia’s version of CPS on this family. That’s a good point them moving around might make it hard to pin them down. I completely agree. She needs major healing in her life and her family is suffering bc of it being unresolved.
Tenille is such a wonderful wife, she found what he was good at and pushed him, she asked how he felt about it. He was so happy to see his dreams supported finally, to realize that he had dreams. She gave him a say and asked him how he felt... She practically woke him from a sleep.. Angeline wanted to leave from the beginning and Tenille was fully invested. I wanted to support the hippie but I just can't... 🥺
Same here! I thought the hippie would be more open-minded to change based on what her husband experienced. She was a downright meanie to her husband and oldest child.
I love how the hippie girl claims to be the “free spirit” and the kids can do anything they want, but she’s the most non accepting and rigid when it comes to beliefs or lifestyle changes that aren’t her own. That poor husband. He needs to step up and put his woman in her place.
I love how the blond woman is towards education and how she handles these things, but she really seems to put a lot of stress on her kids with the strict schedule,, like YES, keep a schedule but allow flexibility as well! Also her oldest sounds really spoiled, but idk if that's just me because I'm not really fashion oriented
@@mothemie3155 - to be fair, I think the emphasis on martial arts training is really her husband's hobby-horse, And I think she was learning something from living on the bus, (like you, I wasn't too taken by her oldest daughter).
I love fashion but you can see that she was rude about going outside as well. Tenille is a gem but they should teach their kids to not be spoiled and be grateful you know?
yeah, I completely get where you're coming from. The oldest could expand her worldview some more... Being surrounded by nature on a regular basis is amazing for your mental health and shopping second-hand can be so much better for the environment. You can still be stylish while considering the longevity of clothing.
@@ShayCat Do you know how they share custody? Like are the kids living a normal life with Bob and then unschooling with the mom? Or are they unschooled across the board still?
Punishing children with her own trauma from the school system is abuse and neglect. She is taking choices away from the children and ultimately setting them up for failure. Uncleanly living environment and cramped space and not allowing her children to be educated seems like a ploy to create dependence and stops them from leaving her. Absolutely disgusting to watch and sadly I know she can not be awaken to the mistreatment.
Cramped space, dirty water, dirty bus, dirty beds, dirty/unkempt, and uneducated children leaves me heartbroken for them. Angelina has a chip on her shoulder. She has hurts from childhood that leads her to live an unbalanced life for herself and for her family. I thought Tenile handled an awful situation with such grace. That is no way to live and I'm left quite saddened after watching this.
I get anti social behaviors from the hippy mom. She’s constantly bored she views teachers as dictators and she doesnt like being told what to do even if it’s in her best interest. Also peep when she moved into the richer house hold she looked cleaner because she was probably getting real showers. I feel bad for her kids the fact that they were washing their clothes in dirty water is so painful to me. Mold grows on clothing and can definitely lead to health issues. It really broke my heart when her son said he’d like to go to university.
The only thing I feel like the hippy mom did right in the new home was the thrift shopping and trying to teach the girls that there are cheaper options because that is a valuable lesson. Name brands are not everything, getting stuff second hand is good for the environment and is a cheaper option for college (for example lol)
right, it made me pissed off that the richer family was disgusted by that. they have everything they need in life, but they need to learn how to be polite and have some manners. thrift shops are amazing and provide so many good deals for less fortunate families. the hippie mom is neglectful and abusive, but Tennille needs to teach her kids not everyone is as well off as they are.
@@user-cz8ff2be9u yes exactly just the way the girl acted when she said that they don’t need to spend so much money on little things like a shirt that you can get for 2 dollars
I literally clapped my hands when Bob stood up to her and called her out. Those children ATleast need the basics so they can have a choice later on. The mom was stubborn and very ignorant to that fact. Like what will they do to support themselves when they're older when you need at least a GED/ high-school education
As a photographer I can honestly say the father has some serious talent. He really should look into doing it as a business. I was actually expecting the city mom to be very judgmental (i judged her on her appearance and I was wrong). She’s actually a caring person who really cared about the other children. She’s concerned about their future, health and education. There’s nothing wrong with that. There’s also nothing wrong with being a free spirit while also providing what’s needed for your children. They are holding them back, delaying/stunting them. And for someone who is a free spirit, she’s one of the most closed minded people I’ve seen. I also don’t understand why she’s so against her children actually learning. I was also proud of her husband for standing up to his stubborn wife and wants his kids to succeed.
The rich kids are definitely very sheltered, privileged, and (Ella at least) very stuck up. They should be allowed some more freedom and humbled a lot. But the bus kids... it’s so sad seeing how they’re forced to live. There’s a successful way to live on a bus on the road and this isn’t it. They’re dirty, cramped, and the little ones can’t even count!!!
Bob just seems like he has no confidence.. His pohotography is great and I really hope he is going to pursue it more professionally. His wife (Angeline) just doesn't listen to him (or others) and isn't ready to even just think about the possibility of someone else being in the right. I'm just really sorry for that whole family, especially the kids and their future
I need consequences for the absolute NEGLECT OF THOSE KIDS. They need to be taken away! The parents should have serious consciences for their child abuse 'unschooling'
I love Tanelle! She’s so awesome. It kinda shows how wrong first impressions can be, I bet a lot of people thought she’d be stuck up and all that, but she’s so outgoing, warm and genuine! I love how she tried to get to know all the kids and didn’t try to force her ways on anyone, but instead just show them there are different paths to follow. She wasn’t judgmental. You can see she’s very intelligent, especially emotionally. Instead of just expecting everyone to adjust to her mindset, she tries to understand.
what really struck to me was what angaline said to her husband as soon as they reunited. "I was worried that you wouldn't want me back." like, why on earth would someone say that after being away from their spouse for like 2 weeks. this just shows that angaline is literally oozing with insecurity. tanille is living the life she always thought she wanted for herself but she never got that life so she settled for the complete opposite, convincing herself that this is what she wanted all along. but deep down you can tell that this attitude she has about life is a way to cope with the feelings of jealousy and inferiority she feels towards women like tanille. And knowing that tanille was living with her husband for the past 2 weeks was so difficult for her to stomach because she thought her husband would be more impressed with tanille after spending time with her. hence why she had such a nasty attitude during the meeting at the end. clearly angaline had some nasty experiences in highschool growing up but instead of trying to get through those issues and healing and moving on, she's letting 8 of her kids suffer one of the worst kinds of fates - a future with nothing for them - all because of her insecurity.
Angeline needs some hardcore therapy. She's definitely experienced trauma and she should not be obstructed from being a good mom by her anxiety... But unfortunately she is.
My thoughts exactly. She was clearly threatened by Tennille who is extremely successful, kind, intelligent and attractive. And because of this, Angeline challenged literally everything Tennille said, even though everything she said was 100% accurate. Angeline constantly says she wants to give her kids “choice” which is ironic because she has completely taken that away from them. She has made all their choices which is sadly going to impact the entirety of their lives in the worst ways possible.
Well if you're not going to put them in school you have to teach them something... other wise they're be clueless and can't hold a job. You have to be able to count money atleast to get a basic job. And work a computer nowadays.
So you’re completely missing the point that’s the whole point to not have a structured learning they learn from life experiences you’re only seeing the kids at a younger stage in the point they don’t learn things at the pace we do like reading and math and things like that they learn it just not in the traditional order and when applying for jobs and schooling on your résumé makes you stand out
@@makennabelle6279 My argument is that development happens in a different order than what you’re traditionally used to just because it doesn’t fit to your small brains idea of an education does it mean it’s any less valid than a traditional education that’s my point
@@makennabelle6279 And they’re not even completely uneducated I don’t get where you’re saying that they’re literally learning about life and learning about the things you would learn in school but from actual life experiences and not sitting in a classroom for eight hours a day
ikr?? or even let them finish a couple years of highschool and let them drop out and make them get a ged or something so they can have more time to go to college or whatever they wanna do i guess. i dropped out of highschool my junior year, got my GED and then the ged had a program where if u got a good score they give u a lot of hs credits and u can earn the rest of the credits online with online classes. so thats what i did and now i also have a highschool diploma!!
yes or even just up until middle school, some kids actually love school and I'm sure at least some of her kids would have chosen to stay even at that age. she should introduce her kids to different environments and opinions, so important.
Personally I tend to lean towards tennille's parenting style, but I would give them more choices within the structure. Like instead of the martial arts the kids said they don't like let them pick different ways to exercise as a family and vote or switch off
Yeah same. When I have kids the rule will be 1 sport of your choice and 1 art form of your choice. So you do impose a structure that is good for them but allow flexibility and choices.
I agree. my parents had a rule that I had to play a team sport. I could pick whatever, as long as it wasn't expensive. And I could always pick another sport next season if I didn't like what I previously picked. We were all doing what we enjoyed, it was beneficial for all of us, they would definitely benefit too
@@Imsemble thats still not giving you kid freedom in their choices, sports isnt for everyone, i was forced to play basketball until 8th grade wen my parents started caring less, observe your kid and see what talents they pick up on
@@ThejourneyofMariah If I was in your parents shoes and my kid told me they don't like basketball, I would have them choose another sport. Doesn't have to be a team sport or a physically demanding sport either. I don't believe that it's healthy to discard sports as a whole it's just about finding the right one.
All of the comments have covered the obvious problems here already. Except for one, the poor cockatiel alone in his cage as he needs a companion. Or at least a toy or two :(
For someone who claims she is "free-spirited" she is actually quite the opposite. A truly free spirited person would never shun another's opinions or way of thinking but at the end of the episode I was quite shocked to see how she reacted to even her own husband's opinion. She is very closed minded and thinks her ways are superior. She doesn't like Rip's "dictatorship" but she seems to be the dictator of her own family.
As boujee and beautiful as that lady is she was VERY respectful and managed to get through the first day. She was kind, respectful and gentle with the kids by talking to them.
@@periwinklecheese7461 I think @Faye Zenter, was just adding on to your point, not saying anything against your point. It just emphasizes how selfish Angeline aka "the hippy mom" truly is. For Angeline to push her own personal hurt she felt on the children, and to NEGLECT them from an education with schooling is SO, SO SELFISH. I seriously can not get over how angry Angeline makes me.
Angeline has to have had some bad experiences at school and her kids are now affected by her “childhood trauma”. My guess is that she had some issues in school and that she now doesn’t want her or her kids to be anywhere near a school.
I need consequences for the absolute NEGLECT OF THOSE KIDS. They need to be taken away! The parents should have serious consciences for their child abuse 'unschooling'
Did we see the same people on the video? To me they looked so angry, repressed, cold, superior, and definetly not Happy . Only clean, thats all For exampke you Just have too look and listen at the old daughter Who wants to be dental tecnitian, she only knows how to display lack of satisfaction, nothing is good enough, it has to be neat, better , and better and better , it is just not good enough, because there is only one way acceptable, and that is the only right one. They are so narrow minded and judgemental. Later on these kids Will be in high respected positions, like she ll be that dental tecnitian, have a nice car, house , etc, and the problem IS all her clients and everyone Will Just validate her superiority like oh yes she IS valid, the ones Who are Just in lower jobs are not as valid , and her selfrigheusness Will never end because it Will be considered adecuate
Aren't parents in Australia not obliged by law to ensure their kids get an education? Aren't there rules on the minimum amount of living space needed for the number of people living in a household? Are there no social services in Australia?
Exactly! The tyrannical dad was the only problem in their family. The mom seems so sweet and only wants the best for her kids... AND for the nomad kids!
@@addisonwillis46 - to be honest, it seems to me that the Terise and Bob are the good parents here. They seemed to make a good team and brought out the best in each other.
Yes, I would not want that shouting every single day. If you're truly teaching kids discipline and habits, you shouldn't be needing to shout the same orders everyday. Loved the mum though.
I think it's possible they edited things that way in order to release some of the aggravation toward Angeline. Not to mention, the Father was probably trying more to make a scene for Angeline. It's likely the kids had already had the routine of doing those things and the fathers act was purely for camera and Angeline.
I'm very bothered by Angeline. She so selfish. Her kids are telling her they want to learn and shes fighting them on it. When her whole thing is " Let them do what ever they want" They want to learn ! I glad dad was not afraid to speak his mind, I think he really wants a better life for his family. I hope Angeline get can over her trauma and focus on putting her children first.
Angeline really agitated me. She tries to come off as giving and carefree, but she's really inflicting her personal scars on her children to excuse and enforce the neglect of giving her children the BASIC tools of education. Angeline isn't letting the children "be free". She is caging them in her reality of hurt, so she doesn't feel inferior to the world, although she's not, but she is definitely setting up her kids to be an INFERIOR version of themselves to the potential they could live up to and choose.
I think it's really sad that her kids weren't given the right to education and it was significantly disappointing to watch that one of her kids wanted to go to university but felt like he couldn't.
she is a horrible mother to much pressure on those kids.. she is self ablsorb look at her her looks and and how the family acts is more important then taking the time to listen to her kids... she is the type of parent who will have child crack. she is the type of parent who will never understand when a child makes a mistake. you have to have a balance she dose not .. what you like dictators omg weather head of house hold or not children are people too you have to give them opions if they make all there choices they will never be able to do a damb thing with out mommy and daddy. you have to let your teenagers be teenagers let them make mistakes to live a normal life.. she wants them to be perfect its not releastic
she's a very nice lady, however she puts a lotta pressure on her kids. I think structure and democracy is a fantastic idea. Like "vote on what you wanna do after school" or "vote whats for dinner" type of things
@@jenniferstone3205 Sounds like you are jealous of Tenille. . Who cares if she is self-absorbed about her looks? The focus here is not on her personality, but the difference of parenting styles between Tenille and Angeline. There may be some ways for Tenille and her husband to loosen the reins with the children, but if you research psychology, STRUCTURE is PERTINENT for children. In addition, she is not pushing them to perfect, she is PUSHING them to put in effort to do their very best in whatever they are doing. That's called a LIFE skill. That ends up raising children and people's confidence as time goes on when they invest their effort to do the very best they can, and watch their own progress as time goes on.
The quote “it’s my dream, and the children are here for the ride” is all you need to know about the hippie mom… don’t have kids if you don’t wanna change your lifestyle for them 😭😭😭
That is exactly what I was saying, why have any kids at all if all you want is to drive around in a bus 🚌 all day, and have sex all night 🌃, and do whatsoever fancy your whim, that isn't what a mom is
What an amazing woman Tenille is. she took on board the lifestyle perfectly. she did not make drastic changes or put them down. she worked with them and actually genuinely wanted to try to help them for their future as individuals and a family. Considering her lifestyle she adapted well. As for the Hippie woman . OMG. how arrogant, rude and selfish she is . . she is the controlling one thats worse out of the four adults. she is negative and has no consideration about her childrens future. they can not read or write or even define colors and she thinks that is ok.. Unfortunatly she is not a fit mother . I do hope they do not split up because of this as a child also needs a mother but she does need to wake up and make a few small changes which the children seemed to enjoy.
Tenille’s Positivity is so refreshing! She is a trooper emptying out the 💩. I felt as though the family benefited from her! She really deserves a big hug!!!
I feel bad for the bus- teenager! 😢
He wants to go to university, but didn't even go to high school.
The dad wants his kids to learn & was quite shocked that his son couldn't count.
But the mother wants to be a "Free Spirit" she is so selfish & irresponsible.
She is not even concerned that her kids can't write & read.
Does she want them to depend on her their whole life?
I think so. That’s what I got from it all.
I don’t believe she wants her children to be entirely dependent on her as they gradually reach adulthood. She seems delusional to me. The way she spoke of how anything can be learned, I truly believe she thinks her children will naturally figure out what they want to do in life almost entirely on their own. All she wants to do is support their independent choices with her limited capabilities. It’s a truly unfortunate circumstance.
Right she thinks she's giving them freedom and choices but when they're grown their choices will be very limited.
I couldn’t agree more. I was sad watching him say that. She’s just a lazy woman! That makes me upset. Poor children 😢
It's kinda rude the way you called her selfish and irresponsible they have their own rule
the father has SO MUCH potential. and it breaks my heart that he doesn’t see that
Fr :/
Dude I wanted to cry when his wife wouldn’t listen to a word he said… he’s right they need basic learning!! I don’t think anything is wrong with that! I agree public schools don’t always teach the best life lessons but obviously learning to spell, add & subtract etc. is very important for life..
@@alexandriaa44 you're right because they need it to read signs and get a license.
@@joyceprice6749 exactly!
Couldn’t agree more
So proud of Bob for standing up for his kids - seems this experience has opened up his eyes and he examined his role in the kids future.
Well yeah he must of felt bad that they don’t even know numbers.
He needs to divorce his abusive, ignorant wife
Spoiler Alert
@@inkybluecompanionanimalres7795 well he did a few years back. from what I heard he's remarried too.
Bob definitely deserved better and he understood the assignment and was open to change
Hippie dad is talented as hell. I really hope he can see that and make something of and for himself (and his adorable family). Hippie mum needs to stop imposing her "ideologies and principles" on her family. She's the real dictator 😔
Do u buy any chance know his website
@@ArjanSingh-fv9qd sadly, I can't seem to find it. I'm assuming it doesn't exist. He and his family do have a Facebook page that has a lot of his photos.
He is talented im glad she tried to guide him hope that works out
He is amazingly talented. I felt so bad for him, his heart was for his kids.
Yes, the photos are actually good!
You can see that the teens are ac2lly worried about their future...
yes and the wives don't cooperate
@@callumfreebairn8082 tenille is perfect angeline isnt
@@katiebrian4611 i totally disagree. end of story
@@callumfreebairn8082 but why? i don't necessarily agree with her 100% but i want to genuinely understand your 'hatred' for her
Well the angeline kids are too free they cant even have a future but kenille her kids are rlly happy because kenille prepares for their future
The Father got a wake up call when he saw his 5 yr old not know how to count to two.
this was genuinely heartbreaking
@@pandoricaa But also, WTF are you doing as a parent? It's easy to go soft on him but he still is responsible for that mess.
Absolutely WTH
That's what I was thinking. That's just neglect and laziness on the parents (mom) end. Shame on her.
i genuinely saw that and i felt bad for him because it feels like it was all the moms idea
I liked that she didn’t judge their lifestyle just worried about the children’s education and health.
Me too.
I like her
When I heard unschooling I was like wtf, I'm pretty sure it's illegal for kids not to go to school up until it's time to go to college, I mean I've heard of exceptions, but usually those consisted of having a family emergency and the kid had to drop out in order to support the family, but having your kids not enrolled in school because you don't feel like it? Girl...
And that she was asking children about their feelings and how this lifestyle is for them. The hippie one ended up being the dictatorial one 😮
This unschooling was horrible
There’s a huge difference between unschooled and neglected.
Not if you ask Angelina.
I homeschooled my children and eventually moved to unschooling. But, it was nothing like this. I just didn’t follow any particular curriculum. I looked for educational opportunities in everyday life like shopping, reading maps and bus schedules and so much more. My oldest just completed her masters degree. My youngest is teaching English online. All four are well educated and gainfully employed.
Exactly this isn't unschooling! Unschooling doesn't mean you let kids do whatever they want
No, literacy is a basic need for independence. Unschooling is a form of neglection.
@@infj4w511Unschooled children learn to read. The lady in this video isn't even parenting well, much less educating her children.
Imagine a mother angry because her children want to learn. The level of dislike I have for that woman is unhealthy.
I’d say it’s healthy lol
I say it's lazy parenting just cause you given up on life do you have to deny your children opportunities and chances
Ya that's not doing the kid any favors. My son is 10 and I've always stressed to him how important his education is, and try to help him as much as I can. I think we need to go back to some more old-fashioned values where we really teach kids about and value education, hard work, family...those types of morals. But hey, that's just me.
She’s definitely experienced a lot of trauma but someone needs to step up for the kids and she doesn’t seem like she’s fully able to do that.
@@smushbrain They wash their clothes in dirty dishwater and the whole bus is a mess clothes everywhere!?
I am horrified for Angeline's children. Not JUST because of their unhygienic home or lack of education, but because of Angeline's alarming behavior when challenged. She had an absolute tantrum. There's something very wrong going on there.
Tenille was lovely, such a gem.
Tenille was just so great
I agree with some of the things she does but only to a certain degree, you have to have structure in a family other wise it will be very close to or will collapse just like hers
I think perhaps Angeline felt overwhelmed and ganged up on but it was very alarming nonetheless. Her kids deserve to learn the fundamentals and she's doing them an absolute disservice not teaching them how to read or write or basic math. Tennile was much more open minded than I expected her to be, but I do think she could stand to let her kids be more independent and have hobbies that are their own. Angeline was so one track minded about "unschooling" that she refused to admit her kids might actually want some aspects of schooling. I also think she's selfish about the nomadic lifestyle and refused to admit that it's HER forcing the kids to go along with it instead of a "democracy". Just subtle manipulation.
I think she can’t read, that’s why she’s so annoyed with everyone
@@jenniferlouis8704 i loved her sm, you can tell she really does care about her kids and their well being.
“You can do it dad” 🥺even the older children believe in Angeline’s husband and can see a problem in their living conditions
I loved this part too! Bob seems so starved of encouragement he didn't even recognize how awesome his photography was.
He was a victim of abuse thats why
Of course they do, their instincts kick in that something is terribly wrong here. If she continues like that, her own kids might deny her in the future. They can hold a lot of resentment for taking so many things away from them. And no, kids cannot do as they want, this just leads to disaster. Democracy is just a sad excuse of lazy parenting. This will just turn all boomerang on her in the future, if she refuses to change.
In the first couple of minutes, I thought Tenille was going to be an awful barbie and Angeline would have my vote. Ewwwww, how wrong I was. The fact that her kids dont know colours or how many fingers are being held up, is just sooooo sad. Some of Tenille's kids are brats and spoiled and Zip sucks, but at least the kids have some kind of choice. Ironically enough, self professed 'free spirit' Angeline, actually gives her kids no choice whatsoever.
Yeah, it's pretty crazy too that the colour they didn't know was green and that's the main colour you see everywhere in nature where they supposedly learn how to live.
I believe in unschooling to an extent, I agree public school isn't the answer but Jesus how do your kids not know colors numbers, letters alot of kids learn those things just by living before kindergarten. It's really sad who will they even be.
@@Frostops6 what is unschooling?
@@rav8149 it’s basically not sending your kids to school at all nor teaching them the general things they teach in school
@@topanga7175 smh.There are folks that dont have citizenship of US who would dream to go to good schools if only, but there are these citizens it seems that waste their opportunity to do so.
The ironic thing about the hippie mom is that she is so stuck in her ideology about “openness” and “freedom”, yet she is very narrow minded and inflexible.
Exactly!!!
literally! she's so hypocritical
A lot of liberal and new age people are like that. I notice they look down on people like Christians for supposedly being judgmental and oppressive, but they are quite often that way, themselves. The free thinking, I accept everyone and everything has limits - as soon as they meet someone who had an opinion or belief other than theirs, they like to mock it or are not very understanding.
I need consequences for the absolute NEGLECT OF THOSE KIDS.
They need to be taken away! The parents should have serious consciences for their child abuse 'unschooling'
I believe in giving yourself freedom to live, but if you don't learn how to do hard things, you won't know how to deal with them. That's what ends of giving you freedom. You need to know about the world around you. School can teach you that if you pay attention. It's about a balance.
I've never seen a parent actively fighting against their children getting education....blows my mind!
The moment she opens her mouth, you knew she is incapable of learning anything and THAT is the real reason she doesn’t want her unfortunate children to learn anything.
She wanted “democracy” for martial arts training, but was unwilling to even discuss allowing the children to learn. Imagine, having children who don’t know the names of colours and can’t count to 2 - and still refuse to educate them.
That's a donkey mom for sure that one.
Really thought I was gonna hate the rich mom but she’s actually really sweet and supportive. I do think her children are a bit stuck up, especially Ella. Very uppity.
@@cscott2006 dude it’s his daughter that’s messed up on you to think that wth
@@cscott2006 that’s his Kid?? Don’t make things fucking weird, creep
@@cscott2006 omg wtf? i thought you were going to say something about him having a lot of rules but this.. this is just fucked up
Yeah I agree with you there. Ella irritate me
@@trevh1643 Ik people who think messed up shit are the ones who need to be behind bars or at least near a therapist
Angelina is so painfully miserable that she’s projected everything onto her children. This was awful to see.
literally
this
She went to school and had no friends so now she wants the same for all her kids . Sad
@@yourmum552 hi
@@yourmum552 i love u
It's because of people like Angeline that homeschooling should be tightly regulated. Those poor kids. This is tantamount to abuse and neglect
What a nice person tannelle is. She even changed the crapper. She’s not a snob she’s a total trooper.
Lol crapper 😂
Not to mention cleaned the whole bus and all the clothes/bedding! She’s a literal saint…
I can't believe they made her do that. She was seriously suffering. But she did it! She's a boss.
Right? I thought she was going to be a total prissy princess. She seems like a really great person.
have you watched the Ukrainian version? she is cool!
I feel like the hippie mom was let down by the school system and it scarred her emotionally. And so she's scared it will let down her children too. But that doesn't mean she should stop educating them all together. She needs guidance from a counselor and so she can balance their education AND let them choose their path.
ikr?? depriving ur children of basic education is just evil and is setting ur kids up for failure. if she didnt want them in the school system she couldve easily signed them up for an online homeschooling thing. i say that option bcuz i doubt she would be able to properly homeschool them herself and tutors are expensive and they dont have a lot of income. so best option is online homeschooling!! it also gives her kids the chance to move up faster than a public school in their education and then once they finish they will have all the time in the world to study any of their passions.
@@fuzzysharks2437 If they need the Internet they’re always moving around they don’t have an address to with moving around and letting the kids pick where they wanna go they could be going anywhere they don’t give a crap at all
I agree. School system are usually tailored to a narrow intellect set, so she may have gotten bad grades, or not passed, but have the social skills needed to survive in trades, which school systems aren't exactly geared towards. Education is about brain development just as much as what you actually learn. Her kids aren't going to develop the ability to learn with absolutely no structure or discipline. There's not a single person in their profession of choice who didn't do things they didn't want to do to get there. I think that she feels bc she failed it was bc of the school system, but it was actually bc of her parents teaching her that the stystem is more than what it is, it's a tool to help you get somewhere, not a system that promises something.
U said that well
I couldn't agree more. I'm a very open minded, free thinking person too. I see the flaws in the education system!! So totally understand wanting to educate outside of the system. But they're not actually doing anything at all! I normally love watching these shows, but this one wasn't enjoyable at all because it was so sad. When your child says when he grows up he wants to collect cans for money, how does that not break your heart?? At least if she was teaching something at all, like homesteading... farming, anything where they're learning something, it would have made me feel better. I can't believe the show even agreed to this honestly. It's abuse by neglect. And to bring in 8 kids into this?? The mom has coached the kidsso much to say they hate school too. It's to the point where they know they are hurting mom if they say anything pro school. It's devastating. The kids need a go fund me.
Tanelle is everything. Am humbled by the way she manages everything. Her kids are blessed to have a mummy like her
She has money?
Angeline is saying how she wants her kids to choose their life and do what makes you happy but her oldest son clearly wants to be in school or at least do some school work and she shuts him down... I’m confused how it’s even legal for her to do this to her kids, and they don’t even get privacy, the oldest is 16! She’s a terrible parent.
The way she refused to talk with her husband shows how much she values "democracy"
so if they don't attend school i'm sure they haven't seen a dentist or doctor
Unschooling when done properly can be very effective but good lord this is not how it’s supposed to be done by any means
In my country you can't home school your kids .kids need to have so many years of education. If you don't take them to school there is consequences for the parents. whe have al sorts of schools katholic Christian public Montessori and something called the free school
It would have fit the hippie mom the free school.
How can you keep your kids from schooling .let them diside for them selfs when they grown-up if they want a working life or free life.
The poor kid how can he study when he didn't do high school.
@@keay.8085 lol it’s more like dictatorship in that house hold. She literally doesn’t even try too listen to her husband, it has to be all her way or no way.
As someone who was "unschooled" and then dropped into public school freshmen year: I will never ever support unschooling. I was so behind the other students and I'm still learning things that I never knew that are basic knowledge. I ended up dropping out because I can't handle the shame&pace. PLEASE don't unschool your kids :(
Have you tried online learning ? You can get qualifications from that and depended on what you use , you won’t feel the pressure pf being with other people and having people to compare yourself to .❤️
What is unschooling? How is that even an option? So unschooling is basically not having your child in any kind of school?
@@Amanda-el9dx I think it really depends on the parents but in my case it was literally just no school, which I think should be classed as child abuse tbh!
In many European countries education is a human right. Either you like it or not you have to bring your kids to school. That is the way to go for the rest of the world as well. Parents shouldn't be allowed to ruin their kids future with that unschooling bullshit.
@@vampire7240 I feel so sorry for you, don't feel ashamed, it's not your fault. It's never too late to learn though. This is in fact criminal here in Sweden, and also in Germany. In fact, all homeschooling is criminalized. I think that's on the other extreme end though. Homeschooling should be allowed as a form of protest of a shitty school system, but children should take part in the yearly national tests, and if they fall behind too much, the parents should not be allowed to continue their homeschooling.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Angelina’s children all leave by the end and blame her in the long run! It’s so sad to see how much tantrums she throws for just someone talking to her calmly! She seriously needs to address that! That was a lot to watch!
This is not a family, is just a little cult she created for herself, the most selfish one because she didn’t even seduce adults to her cult, she just makes baby. She clearly needs to work on her traumas before thinking she knows what is best for her children. People who try to isolate others like she does, pretending to be a hippie, are very dangerous. She is not even a hippie. Imagine if they all had instruments and crafts they did all day. She just consumes fuel and has bird in a cage. A bunch of children abandoned in a bus, the youngers still don’t understand it but this was one disturbing episode. Don’t they have social services in Australia? This was sad.
The only thing Angeline is teaching her kids is how to have the same issues she has!
Absolutely!!
Well said
Love your comment I agree
and to be poor dirty and catch covid 19 the rate their at covid 21 lmao
And they will end up in the jail system instead of school system 😢😢😢
it was really enraging hearing her say “popular vote wins”,” democracy matters”, etc. BUT THEN DICTATING WHAT HER FAMILY DID LIKE LET THEM VOICE THEIR OPINIONS
Exactly!
exactly, if she actually kept her word and let her kids decide what they wnated to do about things like schooling i would see no issue but when the couples were together discussing and bob said that should talk about it she straight denied it. she wasnt interested in changing whatsoever, and she is not considering the choice of her kids unless its confined to how she wants their lives to be.
Fax it was beyond me literally like how can you really say democracy but then in the car with your husband she said he can have 2cents but I have 5 like what. if your not going to school your kids at least have them know basic education.
She only knows how to Breed kids
Her husband clearly wanted the kids to do the schoolwork as did the kids, but she shut it down immediately. It seems a lot like the husband is just doing as she says and if she didn't want to live in a bus they wouldn't be. Seems like she's the only one enjoying the lifestyle they have.
I personally feel that the hippie mom is instilling some form of abuse here. I mean, dirty living, small quarters, no structure, no preparation for the real world, complete isolation from the community.
It was interesting to me how she held her husband' hand at the end. It seemed like she was trying to control him, how she was clasping on to it.
Definitely abuse… what if a man did this to a woman. Sheltered her from the world, refused her an education, no autonomy or emotional freedom. Those kids are terrified of her. Total narcissist
Yeh also, the way she said "I'm talking" and he immediately apologised.
it is abuse in the form of neglect- black water to clean clothes is a contradiction. glad she brought a new washing machine because whats the point in cleaning if the waters black that was dumb
family cult
Those kids not knowing what came after 1 was heartbreaking
Yet when Angeline wanted to teach the other children “math” she assumed they could multiply her height to estimate the height of the tree - but her own children cannot even count to TWO!!
“How many leaves are on this stem?
- 31.
So how many are on two?
- 62.
There ya go. That what you need to know about math.”
Omg, I am fighting tears when that sweet little kid says he wants to collect cans for money when he grows up. Omg, that's all he sees. He can't even add up the money he's been collecting. This is so sad... All because of their parents "choice".
The school system passed my grandpa by and by the time he was out of high school he couldn’t read same with his siblings and they were very poor my grandpas brother collects cans and does other jobs but he can read now but it’s not a bad thing to collect cans to earn a living when I was younger we weren’t poor but my granny would show us my cousins, siblings, and I that’s a way to earn money cause no ones just gonna give it to you we collected cans too for pocket change when we’d spend the summer with her that’s the way some people earn their money and we shouldn’t look down on them for it
Yep....he doesn't know that's what homeless people have to do in order to survive.
He's going to go try to buy a car and be like here's all my money. Seller: Sir this is $10.57. 😂 Really shitty that one hit me hard too.
*Mom's choice.. The husband clearly has no say in it
I need consequences for the absolute NEGLECT OF THOSE KIDS.
They need to be taken away! The parents should have serious consciences for their child abuse 'unschooling'
"The last time we cleaned the bus was 5 years ago...we didn't have the bus 5 years ago"
I laughed so hard at his Sass...😂😂😂
good on ya. comical nonsense
I was like bruh don’t even know what 5 is !?!?!
@@loeash2699 HAHAHSGA
@@loeash2699 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂🤣😂
With the Hippie mum it's democracy until it doesn't suite her
They said one of the youngest children "barely understands English "?! She's not giving them a choice. She also said "this is our dream, our kids are just along for the ride " so she knows it
It’s her dream only and the man says it too
I don’t understand why they even had kids with this attitude, when as a parent you should put them first
How does a child live with 9 English speakers and struggle with English??? Someone explain pls
I can understand the Gold Coast family having that attitude, but hers? What ride?
@@dakuten7883undiagnosed hearing problems.
I love that Tenille actually got to know the kids. Angeline just kind of stood there and judged everyone
Yah the so called “free spirit” is the one who is the most judgemental lol
She’s real gold ❤
Yes but also Tenilles girls are just as judgemental
@@lindseysanford1843 , given the method of the show, there is an extreme difference between one and the other, I guess it’s for entertainment only. In this particular episode I feel that Tennille was extremely more engaging than Angeline. Given the fact that both had numerous children in their care, I thought that children really would benefit from a healthy education, we are living in very demanding times and every thought should go into the future for our children’s sake. Yes, we don’t need Karate classes, but then again, pitched against Angelina, do we really have to take back our children into the Neanderthals? The opinions of Tenille’s daughter was only a bait for viewers.
@@Blablabla44475so true 😂 she real is something lol
I actually looked Bob up so I could see his photography, and he is amazing!!! I'm glad he followed up with actually putting his photography out there- I'm looking at a few I would love to buy
Can you pls share where we can find
Can you pls share his webpage? I would like to buy some pics. He is so talented
share the site please
I love how she says "we do what the kids want" but then fights everyone wanting to do school 🙄
They should vote as a family 😂
No. She was peeved with her husband for not supporting her, at the time, AS SHE PLAINLY SAID, as you would be too. She must have felt like she was attacked from all angles and i dont blame her for being reactive, AS YOU WOULD BE TOO. DUH!!!!
She also said their lifestyle is her and her husband's dream and the kids are just along for the ride
@@eurekaelephant2714when u have kids. You have to put your kids wellbeing before your feelings
@@Catcvcv of course. Im a mum. However, my child hasnt attended school for 12 months. I tutor her at home and i actually have done a better job of teaching her subjects than the school. The lady in the video is correct - so much can be taught that is worthy outside a school setting. The whole point i have been trying to make on here is that if people opened their minds a bit more, they might start to realise that their values and ideas are biasing them to start with...thinking school is superior is a very common reaction. It doesnt necessarily boil down to the mothers "feelings" either. Also, if it is her feelings, well she might actually have some legitimate ones. There are far too many assumptions made for my liking, without even considering alternate reasons. And thats what i object to.
Tenneil was really a light to the Walker family. She had such encouraging words for the teens, especially Bob. You can see how Angelina shuts down Bob. He has little confidence, he even doubts himself. She's so negative. Her family is suffering because she's too mad at the world.
She’s literally abusive disguised as “free spirit” the whole
Hippie thing is a facade
Indeed. She needs to heal from her childhood trauma. She thinks she is giving her kids freedom to do whatever they want but honestly making is making life choices for them 😮sad. Poor husband too.
@@JANEdirtshe gives a bad name to people living an alternative lifestyle. Imagine if she studied herbalism, knew beautiful crafts and they all had instruments or had a garden, and lived in a community being homeschooled, that would be at least something. She doesn’t teaches them anything! How are the youngers going to learn how to read and count? They ll just be easy prey for criminals. She isolated her family, they don’t go to school but there is nothing else as an alternative. They can’t even reach out for help because they don’t have friends because they are always on the move. She is a psycho.
The structured mom is amazing 👏
I could see the hippie mom's husband was a bit sad when she told him he must make more money but her approach was not judgy or condecending. She was kind, affirming and supportive which really made him consider the idea. Also loved how she is concerned for the kids health and future. We all want to live in lala land but the world is rough and sometimes you got to do what you don't want to.
The hippie mom is a bully to her husband and kids. She has manipulated her family to think the kids have the upper hand but she knows the kids will always echo her sentiments and choices because she controls them.
The rich mom's approach may seem tough now but she is really prepping her kids for the real world.
The hippie family's kids will grow up to hate their parents when life gets tough and they can't get jobs to support themselves and their families. All jobs needs some level of literacy, her taking the opportunity to get a formal education from her kids is a form of abuse. She is raising kids with no life skills that won't be able to fend for themselves and their families. Crippling them for life.
Steve had a nice expensive camera and computer. Also, the world is less frightening for a child if they have a routine instead of the horrible chaos of their life in the bus.
the hippie dad wants to change but of course he’s gonna listen to his wife. The hippie wife feels like her way is the smartest way which it’s not because her kids won’t know the basics of life
I think that Mom is a man
She talks about democracy but doesn’t listen to what her kids actually want and shuts her own husband down when he speaks up for them
Yes I feel like the hippie mom is pretty close minded to her family’s needs. Her way or the highway.
@@lh72492 she is not being a hippy she is lazy she wont even use the govt homeschool online network
She’s so insufferable
Tenille was actually really great for the bus family, she really surprised me with how patient, open-minded and helpful she was to all of them. Meanwhile I don't think Angeline had much to offer the 'cashed-up' family. Not because she's a hippie or anything, but because of who she is as a person and her absolute commitment to 'unschooling.'
I completely agree. You can tell this easily by the goodbyes to the children. Angelina barely paid the children any mind while Tenille made an effort to say goodbye to (probably though we don't see) every child. In scenes prior, when Angeline was first having a meal with the new family, she immediately began to force her opinions and divide the family. However, with Tenille, she did listen and seeked to understand the bus and irs residents. Also, Angeline could not handle a work out and cried while Tenille just addressed what had to be done. What a champ.
Literally all Angeline had to offer was the obvious of not forcing your kids to do stuff they hate.
Angeline is also such a closed minded idiot, she straight up can't take critique and gets angry like a huge baby in reaction. I feel bad in the sense that she most likely had a sad childhood. A good lesson learned will come from her husband leaving with his kids and having better lifes without her. Maybe then she'll regret her ignorant mindset. She was given a chance after all.
@Aguest But them she proceeds her children to participate on her "Democracy". "Democracy" wich is her deciding to forgot about human rights (of education and health care to children)
complete wrack job of a mom, woulb call the cops on her
Tenille is an Angel! She is light which breaks the darkness of the family’s life. I am so happy the family began to change thanks to her wisdom and patience! Especially the father Bob is changing!
Way to go dad!! He stood his ground for his children. He knows schooling is in the best interest of the kids and it is. I pray they get the education they need and i pray both families stay safe and all of the children will be successful loving Christlike young men and women in the name of Jesus. Amen
I'm surprised the bus mom and dad didn't get their kid taken away. Like wow
I'm amazed that docs didn't get involved.
Why it’s perfectly legal and it’s a perfect Lee great system and way of life it teaches kids to actually be excited to learn no that’s how schooling used to be before we actually have school scheduled learn from experience and life that is the best way to do it she should not have gotten her children taken away at all in fact she should’ve been given an award for mother of the year
@@samanthaboyd3404 who would agree with that. 1 they live in a bus which is not a good place for kids to be living in. 2. They have no school whatsoever they should at least be homeschooled whether the kids like it or not and 3rd they practically let their kids do whatever they want. And I may add that her oldest son hadn't even done high school
@@caytlynbaugher2613 and schooling is a form of homeschooling it just doesn’t fit into peoples typical idea of schooling for one every child is different just because certain children on a custom to living a certain lifestyle doesn’t mean it’s not good for them obviously they still need some space but they have the whole outdoors that gives them space and three so many people raise their children like they’re a drill sergeant and like it’s the military and dictate every little action that they do obviously some structure needs to be there but the children need to be children because that’s what they are they’re not Adults adults are the first want to say that children are missed behaving or they’re not acting right when most of the time it’s the parents fault because not only are they encouraging bad behavior by bad behavior themselves but they’re claiming it all on the kid when he doesn’t responsible for any other actions that’s all of their parent obviously feel like our older some of the responsibilities that they need to take on all their fault or things like that but you need to look at it from a broader perspective you’re being very close minded and plus this is how schooling used to be before the industrial revolution and they wanted to teach everybody to be robots children would sit there and they would learn the basic stuff like adding subtraction multiplication division they wouldn’t learn about geometry or algebra and they would learn basic life skills and basic education skills they wouldn’t be forced to learn all this information that they do not need in the rain but the industrial revolution needed robots they didn’t need workers they need a robot so they change the school system to turn students and children into robots when they grow up obviously not physically I’m speaking metaphorically and now that we actually have physical robots to do these jobs we do not need robot thinkers anymore and the education system just hasn’t caught up with the rest of the world like I said you need to take a look from another perspective that’s all those children have known and they are turning out just fine they may not be learning what you think they should know at certain stages in their life but that doesn’t mean you’re not learning important stuff most kids who owns school learn reading and writing in the things that they need they just do it at their own pace because we really as humans learn our own pace it’s unnatural to force someone to sit there in a classroom and learn for eight hours a day it’s not only an unnatural it’s terrible for you as a person and it’s just not good it’s completely unnatural and disgusting and it’s been normalized but it’s not OK
@@samanthaboyd3404 one of the children couldn't even recognize 2 fingers, the other one didn't even know colours I don't think that is ideal for children not to learn very basic skills in life.
Tennille is the ideal mom Love her. She wants best for her kids and she is preparing them for the life in the real world.
i prefer angeline. her teaching. i would love to grow up like that
I agree , although i think the kids should have a bit more freedom but teaching them discipline and things that are harder to learn and get used to when theyre older is good
Everyone needs education and discipline, otherwise they’re fucked. It wasn’t even 13 minutes into the video and I was ranting like crazy about the hippie mom’s stupidity.
no she is wrong she is putting to much pressure on those kids.. Those kids are afraid to make a mistake those kids will crak at some point. having discipline is one thing being to controling is another.. That mother is self rightgess thinks her shit dont stink i see her kind all the time her kids will fall and it will be her fault.. you have to let kids be kids and have discipline you have to let them have an opion or say when mom and dad make all your life choices they will never be able to live up to her standards.. This mother will never understand when one of her children fail..
@@jenniferstone3205 Yeah fr, the oldest was literally talking about how she'd prefer to be around people with degrees because "it's what she's supposed to be around"
When you have a child who spends all day outside in the bush and doesn’t know the color green, I’d say this experiment has gone too far.
I thought I was going to hate Tanelle, but she was absolutely amazing. She genuinely cared for the kids and had actual conversations with everyone and listened and heard them. She did not try and discredit hippy moms choices but through talk opened the children's eyes to other possibilities. She is a real gem and I think the phrase " behind every successful man, is a strong woman" was invented for people like her. In the few days she already managed to motivated and steer hippie dad a step forward in the way of success. She did jobs I thought she would have not done, she braced it and did what she had to do. She walks the talk and talks the walk. She remained respectful, calm and composed even when hippie mom went outof her way to be rude and impossible. The welcomes back at their respective home says it all. Hippies mom is a narcissist, she is all for democracy when she is getting her way- her poor poor family..
The thing I loved was the changes she made, she kept it in line with their lifestyle. She didn't try to fully uproot them or try to alter the dynamics to be like her family.
No fr, like I can understand what the hippie mom meant about school, but school is meant to build minds and futures too. And although most famous people didn't need a high school diploma to succeed in life, it's easier than going for your GED and not having any type of education to help study for it. Also, the living conditions, she's a democrat so ik she's prochoice, so why would you choose to have 5-6 kids (not rlly counting) knowing you wouldn't be able to provide a good living environment for them? i understand if its money wise, but it just seems like they want to do the least possible not only for themselves but for their kids too. like absolutely none of her kids have any privacy and neither does she, and that's the most important thing to consider when having kids too. And the washing machine?? that's sooo disgusting to just wash yours and your children's clothes in DIRTY water, like bffr girl what is that cleaning? at the end of the day its not about being conservative or democratic, we saw a very loving and nurturing mother who wants the best for all kids involved, and then we have the one who only really thinks about herself and not her children and what they would need. praying those kids get out of there and never speak to that witch again fr
Just pity she didn't realize how deep dictator is her husband
why did u think u were going to hate her? because shes prettier then u? because she has a better life then u?
some time we need rules and guidance.. without them we will become like animals..@@peggyclio1199
Very very glad bob pointed out how Angeline's hatred of school is rooted in her own experience. A lot of her behavior is obviously rooted in some sort of trauma that she refuses to deal with, which is why she continues to act like a three year old throwing a tantrum.
For gods sake. Not necessarily the case at all.
@@eurekaelephant2714 You sound a lot like someone dealing with some level of cognitive dissonance lol. Judging for your response for this and other comment.
@@eurekaelephant2714why do you disagree? Just curious ❤
@@nikstar1313 theres too many value judgements and assumptions made. People reach for an easy conclusion that suits their own value system, rather than pausing to challenge themselves first.. Its also a very common reaction to normal homeschooling, (not unschooling, which is what the lady in the video is doing). I know because Im a homeschooling parent. To assert that trauma is an inevitable source really is slack. This might not be the case at all. Thankyou for your politeness and your unwillingness to not let fly personal insults. Xo
@@JuliandroSV how ironic. I wish you well.
Tenile exceeded my expectations. What a wonderful human being.
How can they "follow the kids' lead" for unschooling, when the kids don't know all of their options of what to learn?!?
ikr.. they at least need a BASIC education
@@fuzzysharks2437 That’s the point they don’t need a basic education their learning from experience there on the younger side so they aren’t there yet they don’t learn things in the order we traditionally learn them but they do learn them many people go on schooling for their entire a younger education and they turn out successful and happy and not robots what most people go through the regular education system are like
Agreed and plus this womans own insecurities and traumas of not making friends at school is making her children think they wouldnt make friends or get the social skills they need
@@samanthaboyd3404 this isn't unschooling though that the other parents do. There's still schooling involved and those that are successful are either turning to homeschooling or schools in their later years.
The other thing is some of the kids wanna be taught, but we're not following that lead
at first i thought tenille was going to be full of herself but it’s the exact opposite. after seeing the condition the other family lives in and how she cleaned up and gave the kids some type of education really makes me see that she’s a good person
Definitely a caring n loving mum/person
Her concern the entire time was those kids. Everything she said was about the kids.
These ladies are both why you should never judge a person's character based on appearance.
Tenelle is an awesome chick and is spot on.
I'm a hippy and love the idea of travelling with my family and let them experience nature and stuff.
However children need a routine.
They need school
I really worry for Angelines children once they grow up and try to figure out their way in life.
I feel like Angeline is selfish and is only thinking about her feelings.
when Angeline's child couldn't count to 2 I almost cried
They have no future. All because their mom likes trees. A big fail.
@@mlssaaa4795I wouldn’t say that, their future would be more difficult but, nothing is impossible.
@@nate2759Indeed. How will they eat when they never learned to make an effort? Even normal hippies would grow their own vegetables.
Each one of these children will be deeply ashamed of their parents when some day they make friends or even a romantic partner. A girlfriend or boyfriend will notice the body odour and the stench of their clothes “washed” in filthy water. It’s revolting.
no but one of the kids looked like he was about 4/5 and didn’t know the father was holding up 2 fingers.. this is scary. the mum is being selfish and stubborn. She needs to get those children into school ASAP!
And is that the one who wanted to have the Can business
My son is two and he started counter sooner like 1 3 9 🤣 it was funny cause he was trying so I tought him "no love its 1 2 3 and now he does it up to 5 🥰😅
Don't understand why social services haven't stepped in..the father is willing to make changes but the "hippi mum" is pyschologically abusing the children..she I not fit to be a mother..whatever she went through in school..the children SHOULD NOT have to pay for it..this is wrong..
Her hausband needs to out his foot down for the sake of their kids..the children don't deserve that
For the rich family..structure is good butbthe children need to be children and should enjioy their childhood..do family activites that does not entail exercising or shopping in expensive stuff..children need to learn how to be content when they have and don't have and the true value of life..anything can happen..
Social services needs to do a check on those kids living in that filthy bus. These kids need an education, it’s vital. Something is wrong with those parents. This is awful. But people are just letting it go. Someone needs to do something.
coming from someone who has an actual hippie mom: the hippie mom is incredibly neglectful for a “hippie mom”. my mom is a total hippie (loves nature, natural remedies, “free-living”, believes in kindness and equality towards earth and animals, dream life is living in a van and traveling everywhere), but she’s also pretty strict on cleanliness and hygiene and taught me and my sibling to respect our space. my mom also made sure to try and get me and my sibling the best education we could get to make sure we were set in our adulthoods. hippie living and free living are about making your own decisions in life, sure, but as the rich mom was saying sometimes you do have to do stuff that you don’t want to do. Getting to choose what kind of life you want to live also means having the choice for a more structured life.
I need consequences for the absolute NEGLECT OF THOSE KIDS.
They need to be taken away! The parents should have serious consciences for their child abuse 'unschooling'
This hippie mom is giving hippie moms a bad rep. I believe there should be a middle ground.
She’s not a hippie at all…she’s a road rat.
Spot on
In my country, keeping kids from school is a crime punishable by law. I'm so glad that it is. Not giving kids formal education is child abuse which has life long effects like most other types of abuse.
What country do you live in
@@fayezentner619 South Africa
@@didintleSA think you have more pressing issues than schooling lol
In my country if a kid doesn't show up to school for too long the parents are supposed to get arrested.. i never seem it happen tho and it's honestly sad seeing people not care about education
@@rule6090 having proper education is one of the foundations of solving world problems. So stop acting like people can’t do and worry about more then one thing. If that’s all you can do then get off of UA-cam and educate yourself first :)
It’s funny how the wealthy family wanna live with rules and the poor family wanna live free like they’re super rich 😂
The hippie mom should NEVER NEVER NEVER have custody of any children
I wish people stop calling her a hippie mom. She's just plain irresponsible. I know a lot of actual hippie moms who have their kids best interest, their health, emotional well being and education.
Agree! I want a life update 2021
Never Ever!
@@mridul7639 calling her „hippie mom“ doesn’t mean insulting her? she’s just a hippie mom because of her way of thinking or her style and stuff but it’s not an insult
I'm a hippie mom but I'm not this irresponsible...she just wants to live her life through her children....she's so selfish and doesn't really care about her children's well-being
Bro the father that lives in the bus is actually amazing at photography, for low key can make a full profit outta it if he knows how too
I would hire him for weddings and family photos for sure
right? those photos are absolutely stunning
Not even providing the very basics in education such as reading and writing is absolute neglect! I think they get away with it because they are on the road with no address, so no county to intervene for the children. Bus mom is doing her children a great disservice. If she wanted freedom she should not have married and had EIGHT kids.
I was looking in the comments to see if anyone DID call Australia’s version of CPS on this family. That’s a good point them moving around might make it hard to pin them down.
I completely agree. She needs major healing in her life and her family is suffering bc of it being unresolved.
I refuse to believe that the family living in the van isn’t a prime example for child services needing to step in immediately.
They absolutely do in the US. I didn't get that, either.
Tenille is such a wonderful wife, she found what he was good at and pushed him, she asked how he felt about it. He was so happy to see his dreams supported finally, to realize that he had dreams. She gave him a say and asked him how he felt... She practically woke him from a sleep.. Angeline wanted to leave from the beginning and Tenille was fully invested. I wanted to support the hippie but I just can't... 🥺
Angeline is holding the whole family hostage
Same here! I thought the hippie would be more open-minded to change based on what her husband experienced. She was a downright meanie to her husband and oldest child.
I love how the hippie girl claims to be the “free spirit” and the kids can do anything they want, but she’s the most non accepting and rigid when it comes to beliefs or lifestyle changes that aren’t her own. That poor husband. He needs to step up and put his woman in her place.
I love how the blond woman is towards education and how she handles these things, but she really seems to put a lot of stress on her kids with the strict schedule,, like YES, keep a schedule but allow flexibility as well!
Also her oldest sounds really spoiled, but idk if that's just me because I'm not really fashion oriented
Arghhh same the oldest seemed kinda spoiled
@@mothemie3155 - to be fair, I think the emphasis on martial arts training is really her husband's hobby-horse, And I think she was learning something from living on the bus, (like you, I wasn't too taken by her oldest daughter).
I love fashion but you can see that she was rude about going outside as well. Tenille is a gem but they should teach their kids to not be spoiled and be grateful you know?
yeah, I completely get where you're coming from. The oldest could expand her worldview some more... Being surrounded by nature on a regular basis is amazing for your mental health and shopping second-hand can be so much better for the environment. You can still be stylish while considering the longevity of clothing.
The dad is the one imposing that shit
I would love to see more of "where are they now" kinda episodes
Me too. I'm literally scrolling through the comments to see if someone posted an update of the families.
Saw that a couple people said they got divorced and Bob remarried
@@ShayCatEight children of a broken marriage is sad (I’m one myself) but it’s positive that he realised the total unsustainability of this idle life.
@@ShayCat Do you know how they share custody? Like are the kids living a normal life with Bob and then unschooling with the mom? Or are they unschooled across the board still?
Where can I watch full episodes??
12 minutes in, and I can already tell this will be the best episode of Wife Swap I have ever seen.
Punishing children with her own trauma from the school system is abuse and neglect. She is taking choices away from the children and ultimately setting them up for failure. Uncleanly living environment and cramped space and not allowing her children to be educated seems like a ploy to create dependence and stops them from leaving her. Absolutely disgusting to watch and sadly I know she can not be awaken to the mistreatment.
Cramped space, dirty water, dirty bus, dirty beds, dirty/unkempt, and uneducated children leaves me heartbroken for them. Angelina has a chip on her shoulder. She has hurts from childhood that leads her to live an unbalanced life for herself and for her family. I thought Tenile handled an awful situation with such grace. That is no way to live and I'm left quite saddened after watching this.
I get anti social behaviors from the hippy mom. She’s constantly bored she views teachers as dictators and she doesnt like being told what to do even if it’s in her best interest. Also peep when she moved into the richer house hold she looked cleaner because she was probably getting real showers. I feel bad for her kids the fact that they were washing their clothes in dirty water is so painful to me. Mold grows on clothing and can definitely lead to health issues. It really broke my heart when her son said he’d like to go to university.
The only thing I feel like the hippy mom did right in the new home was the thrift shopping and trying to teach the girls that there are cheaper options because that is a valuable lesson. Name brands are not everything, getting stuff second hand is good for the environment and is a cheaper option for college (for example lol)
right, it made me pissed off that the richer family was disgusted by that. they have everything they need in life, but they need to learn how to be polite and have some manners. thrift shops are amazing and provide so many good deals for less fortunate families. the hippie mom is neglectful and abusive, but Tennille needs to teach her kids not everyone is as well off as they are.
@@user-cz8ff2be9u yes exactly just the way the girl acted when she said that they don’t need to spend so much money on little things like a shirt that you can get for 2 dollars
Yesss
Cheaper doesn’t mean durable
My cheaper clothes didn’t last long but my expensive ones are still as good as new
I make a steady income and I still shop at Walmart 😂
I literally clapped my hands when Bob stood up to her and called her out. Those children ATleast need the basics so they can have a choice later on. The mom was stubborn and very ignorant to that fact. Like what will they do to support themselves when they're older when you need at least a GED/ high-school education
As a photographer I can honestly say the father has some serious talent. He really should look into doing it as a business.
I was actually expecting the city mom to be very judgmental (i judged her on her appearance and I was wrong). She’s actually a caring person who really cared about the other children. She’s concerned about their future, health and education. There’s nothing wrong with that.
There’s also nothing wrong with being a free spirit while also providing what’s needed for your children. They are holding them back, delaying/stunting them.
And for someone who is a free spirit, she’s one of the most closed minded people I’ve seen. I also don’t understand why she’s so against her children actually learning. I was also proud of her husband for standing up to his stubborn wife and wants his kids to succeed.
The rich kids are definitely very sheltered, privileged, and (Ella at least) very stuck up. They should be allowed some more freedom and humbled a lot. But the bus kids... it’s so sad seeing how they’re forced to live. There’s a successful way to live on a bus on the road and this isn’t it. They’re dirty, cramped, and the little ones can’t even count!!!
Bob just seems like he has no confidence.. His pohotography is great and I really hope he is going to pursue it more professionally. His wife (Angeline) just doesn't listen to him (or others) and isn't ready to even just think about the possibility of someone else being in the right. I'm just really sorry for that whole family, especially the kids and their future
I need consequences for the absolute NEGLECT OF THOSE KIDS.
They need to be taken away! The parents should have serious consciences for their child abuse 'unschooling'
I love Tanelle! She’s so awesome. It kinda shows how wrong first impressions can be, I bet a lot of people thought she’d be stuck up and all that, but she’s so outgoing, warm and genuine! I love how she tried to get to know all the kids and didn’t try to force her ways on anyone, but instead just show them there are different paths to follow. She wasn’t judgmental. You can see she’s very intelligent, especially emotionally. Instead of just expecting everyone to adjust to her mindset, she tries to understand.
Child services should pay Angeline a visit
I'm watching this and I'm thinking the same thing. Poor kids.
They can't track her down since she's always on the move. She's a horrible parent.
That bed cave on the floor of the back of the bus under the other bed...
@chir401
Simply get the registration details of their two vehicles and the police will easily track them down.
Sheets not washed for a year.. so probably several...
what really struck to me was what angaline said to her husband as soon as they reunited. "I was worried that you wouldn't want me back." like, why on earth would someone say that after being away from their spouse for like 2 weeks. this just shows that angaline is literally oozing with insecurity. tanille is living the life she always thought she wanted for herself but she never got that life so she settled for the complete opposite, convincing herself that this is what she wanted all along. but deep down you can tell that this attitude she has about life is a way to cope with the feelings of jealousy and inferiority she feels towards women like tanille. And knowing that tanille was living with her husband for the past 2 weeks was so difficult for her to stomach because she thought her husband would be more impressed with tanille after spending time with her. hence why she had such a nasty attitude during the meeting at the end. clearly angaline had some nasty experiences in highschool growing up but instead of trying to get through those issues and healing and moving on, she's letting 8 of her kids suffer one of the worst kinds of fates - a future with nothing for them - all because of her insecurity.
Angeline needs some hardcore therapy. She's definitely experienced trauma and she should not be obstructed from being a good mom by her anxiety... But unfortunately she is.
My thoughts exactly. She was clearly threatened by Tennille who is extremely successful, kind, intelligent and attractive. And because of this, Angeline challenged literally everything Tennille said, even though everything she said was 100% accurate. Angeline constantly says she wants to give her kids “choice” which is ironic because she has completely taken that away from them. She has made all their choices which is sadly going to impact the entirety of their lives in the worst ways possible.
@Hafsa- Yep! You nailed it perfectly! 👍
VERRRRY WELL SAID!
Nailed it
“My next rule is, you need to make more money” 😂😂
Well if you're not going to put them in school you have to teach them something... other wise they're be clueless and can't hold a job. You have to be able to count money atleast to get a basic job. And work a computer nowadays.
So you’re completely missing the point that’s the whole point to not have a structured learning they learn from life experiences you’re only seeing the kids at a younger stage in the point they don’t learn things at the pace we do like reading and math and things like that they learn it just not in the traditional order and when applying for jobs and schooling on your résumé makes you stand out
@@samanthaboyd3404 these children can even count to 5.. I'm not sure what your argument is here.
@@makennabelle6279 My argument is that development happens in a different order than what you’re traditionally used to just because it doesn’t fit to your small brains idea of an education does it mean it’s any less valid than a traditional education that’s my point
@@samanthaboyd3404 sweetheart you can't live in America and be completely uneducated. You'll end up homeless. Doesn't matter what your opinion is.
@@makennabelle6279 And they’re not even completely uneducated I don’t get where you’re saying that they’re literally learning about life and learning about the things you would learn in school but from actual life experiences and not sitting in a classroom for eight hours a day
Angeline is delusional...this is heart wrenching. Tenille is a good mother, worried about all the children.
“The last time we cleaned the bus was five years ago and we didn’t even have the bus 5 years ago so we’ve never cleaned the bus” 🤣💀
Wish the hippie mum would have taken her kids to school then upon reaching 18 they can decide what to do with their life.
ikr?? or even let them finish a couple years of highschool and let them drop out and make them get a ged or something so they can have more time to go to college or whatever they wanna do i guess. i dropped out of highschool my junior year, got my GED and then the ged had a program where if u got a good score they give u a lot of hs credits and u can earn the rest of the credits online with online classes. so thats what i did and now i also have a highschool diploma!!
yes or even just up until middle school, some kids actually love school and I'm sure at least some of her kids would have chosen to stay even at that age. she should introduce her kids to different environments and opinions, so important.
She needs to realise if the parents were to die tomorrow those kids would have no idea what to do next
Or just homeschool them properly 😭
Personally I tend to lean towards tennille's parenting style, but I would give them more choices within the structure. Like instead of the martial arts the kids said they don't like let them pick different ways to exercise as a family and vote or switch off
Yeah same. When I have kids the rule will be 1 sport of your choice and 1 art form of your choice. So you do impose a structure that is good for them but allow flexibility and choices.
I agree. my parents had a rule that I had to play a team sport. I could pick whatever, as long as it wasn't expensive. And I could always pick another sport next season if I didn't like what I previously picked. We were all doing what we enjoyed, it was beneficial for all of us, they would definitely benefit too
@@Imsemble thats still not giving you kid freedom in their choices, sports isnt for everyone, i was forced to play basketball until 8th grade wen my parents started caring less, observe your kid and see what talents they pick up on
@@ThejourneyofMariah If I was in your parents shoes and my kid told me they don't like basketball, I would have them choose another sport. Doesn't have to be a team sport or a physically demanding sport either. I don't believe that it's healthy to discard sports as a whole it's just about finding the right one.
Right, you as a parent still have control but letting your children follow their own world while with your guidance
All of the comments have covered the obvious problems here already. Except for one, the poor cockatiel alone in his cage as he needs a companion. Or at least a toy or two :(
For someone who claims she is "free-spirited" she is actually quite the opposite. A truly free spirited person would never shun another's opinions or way of thinking but at the end of the episode I was quite shocked to see how she reacted to even her own husband's opinion. She is very closed minded and thinks her ways are superior. She doesn't like Rip's "dictatorship" but she seems to be the dictator of her own family.
As boujee and beautiful as that lady is she was VERY respectful and managed to get through the first day. She was kind, respectful and gentle with the kids by talking to them.
I want Telnille to come and live with me for a week!! She is absolutely an amazing person ❤️
THAT POOR BIRD, She wants her freedom but doesnt give a stuff about locking up a bird in the smallest cage!
who?
It’s the type of bird that’s supposed to be in the cage like that
that’s OK the kids are in a small cage too
@@caroljohnston5677 i guess it's ok. just as long as it isn't neglected
@@caroljohnston5677 no bird should be in that cage. Budgerigars should never be in that cage.
@@caroljohnston5677 That’s a cockatiel. No type of bird should be in a cage.
I like how she promotes democracy and choice unless its about schooling. If its about school then her single word is law.
She had a miserable time in school and had no friends that's why she's so against school for her kids
@@fayezentner619 though that may be the case my point still stands does it not ?
@@periwinklecheese7461 I think @Faye Zenter, was just adding on to your point, not saying anything against your point. It just emphasizes how selfish Angeline aka "the hippy mom" truly is. For Angeline to push her own personal hurt she felt on the children, and to NEGLECT them from an education with schooling is SO, SO SELFISH. I seriously can not get over how angry Angeline makes me.
Angeline has to have had some bad experiences at school and her kids are now affected by her “childhood trauma”. My guess is that she had some issues in school and that she now doesn’t want her or her kids to be anywhere near a school.
I started crying as soon as I saw the children eating on the floor, that so sad. Angeline should have had those kids taken away from her
Angeline or tenille?
@@manhai7757 angeline
Foster system is no better unfortunately. Sad condition, hope the father steps up and gives them basic hygiene and education.
The kids eating on the floor is the least of concerns.
I need consequences for the absolute NEGLECT OF THOSE KIDS.
They need to be taken away! The parents should have serious consciences for their child abuse 'unschooling'
Notice how the schooled children actually genuinely smile and look happy and glowy and CLEAN .
Did we see the same people on the video? To me they looked so angry, repressed, cold, superior, and definetly not Happy . Only clean, thats all
For exampke you Just have too look and listen at the old daughter Who wants to be dental tecnitian, she only knows how to display lack of satisfaction, nothing is good enough, it has to be neat, better , and better and better , it is just not good enough, because there is only one way acceptable, and that is the only right one. They are so narrow minded and judgemental.
Later on these kids Will be in high respected positions, like she ll be that dental tecnitian, have a nice car, house , etc, and the problem IS all her clients and everyone Will Just validate her superiority like oh yes she IS valid, the ones Who are Just in lower jobs are not as valid , and her selfrigheusness Will never end because it Will be considered adecuate
Aren't parents in Australia not obliged by law to ensure their kids get an education? Aren't there rules on the minimum amount of living space needed for the number of people living in a household? Are there no social services in Australia?
What cleaning or chores is Sargent dad doing. All I see is him barking orders, should lead by example.
Exactly! The tyrannical dad was the only problem in their family. The mom seems so sweet and only wants the best for her kids... AND for the nomad kids!
@@addisonwillis46 - to be honest, it seems to me that the Terise and Bob are the good parents here. They seemed to make a good team and brought out the best in each other.
Yes, I would not want that shouting every single day. If you're truly teaching kids discipline and habits, you shouldn't be needing to shout the same orders everyday.
Loved the mum though.
@@mridul7639 Yeah the mum was great, especially how she helped that other dad set up a buisness, that was really sweet!
I think it's possible they edited things that way in order to release some of the aggravation toward Angeline. Not to mention, the Father was probably trying more to make a scene for Angeline. It's likely the kids had already had the routine of doing those things and the fathers act was purely for camera and Angeline.
I'm very bothered by Angeline. She so selfish. Her kids are telling her they want to learn and shes fighting them on it. When her whole thing is " Let them do what ever they want" They want to learn ! I glad dad was not afraid to speak his mind, I think he really wants a better life for his family. I hope Angeline get can over her trauma and focus on putting her children first.
Angeline really agitated me. She tries to come off as giving and carefree, but she's really inflicting her personal scars on her children to excuse and enforce the neglect of giving her children the BASIC tools of education. Angeline isn't letting the children "be free". She is caging them in her reality of hurt, so she doesn't feel inferior to the world, although she's not, but she is definitely setting up her kids to be an INFERIOR version of themselves to the potential they could live up to and choose.
I think it's really sad that her kids weren't given the right to education and it was significantly disappointing to watch that one of her kids wanted to go to university but felt like he couldn't.
Tennille is such a lady ,very polite and accepting. I also like her parenting style.with hubby.....mom and dad are the heads of the household.
she is a horrible mother to much pressure on those kids.. she is self ablsorb look at her her looks and and how the family acts is more important then taking the time to listen to her kids... she is the type of parent who will have child crack. she is the type of parent who will never understand when a child makes a mistake. you have to have a balance she dose not .. what you like dictators omg weather head of house hold or not children are people too you have to give them opions if they make all there choices they will never be able to do a damb thing with out mommy and daddy. you have to let your teenagers be teenagers let them make mistakes to live a normal life.. she wants them to be perfect its not releastic
Love her parenting style. She is a great mom.
she's a very nice lady, however she puts a lotta pressure on her kids. I think structure and democracy is a fantastic idea. Like "vote on what you wanna do after school" or "vote whats for dinner" type of things
@@jenniferstone3205
Sounds like you are jealous of Tenille. .
Who cares if she is self-absorbed about her looks? The focus here is not on her personality, but the difference of parenting styles between Tenille and Angeline. There may be some ways for Tenille and her husband to loosen the reins with the children, but if you research psychology, STRUCTURE is PERTINENT for children.
In addition, she is not pushing them to perfect, she is PUSHING them to put in effort to do their very best in whatever they are doing. That's called a LIFE skill. That ends up raising children and people's confidence as time goes on when they invest their effort to do the very best they can, and watch their own progress as time goes on.
@@SoupMansSoup13 I feel like the father of her family is the main factor of him constantly yelling at the family is pretty bad
The quote “it’s my dream, and the children are here for the ride” is all you need to know about the hippie mom… don’t have kids if you don’t wanna change your lifestyle for them 😭😭😭
Or married
First
That is exactly what I was saying, why have any kids at all if all you want is to drive around in a bus 🚌 all day, and have sex all night 🌃, and do whatsoever fancy your whim, that isn't what a mom is
What an amazing woman Tenille is. she took on board the lifestyle perfectly. she did not make drastic changes or put them down. she worked with them and actually genuinely wanted to try to help them for their future as individuals and a family. Considering her lifestyle she adapted well. As for the Hippie woman . OMG. how arrogant, rude and selfish she is . . she is the controlling one thats worse out of the four adults. she is negative and has no consideration about her childrens future. they can not read or write or even define colors and she thinks that is ok.. Unfortunatly she is not a fit mother . I do hope they do not split up because of this as a child also needs a mother but she does need to wake up and make a few small changes which the children seemed to enjoy.
I really want to know how the kids are doing now.
Me too
Hippie moms saying "I'll let my kids choose what they want to do" they want to do school they want to be educated
Angeline obviously had a bad high school life, but that's no excuse to disallow her own kids from an education??
Tenille’s Positivity is so refreshing! She is a trooper emptying out the 💩. I felt as though the family benefited from her! She really deserves a big hug!!!
😮😮😮😮
😮😮😮😮
She’s a solid wife.