Can I Go in Luxury Fashion Stores without Buying Something? (Louis Vuitton, Prada, Chanel)
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- Опубліковано 26 лип 2024
- Are you scared to go into luxury designer stores? Are you afraid they’ll see that you don’t live the ~luxury lifestyle~? Well, you totally should go in! Today, I encourage you to go try on all the clothes without the pressure of buying them, as well as answering other questions such as: Nick Knight and Tim Walker’s iconic fashion photography and editorial images and how they do such a good job, the best fabrics and materials (including my favorite from Carol Christian Poell) and secondhand fast fashion and whether buying thrift store SHEIN is the same as buying it from the website. All this and more insights from my trips to Paris Fashion Week 2023!
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The stores are made for you to get clothes. Don't be scared.
Go in. Walk around. Don't need to buy anything just browse.
Try on clothes. Take off the alarms. Put them under your shirt and in your pants. Walk out.
This made me laugh out loud 🤣
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That's justice, babyyyyyy
I worked in an expensive boutique all I have to say is NOOOO MY PAYCHECK
I’m actually uncomfortable going into a store unless it’s kind of busy cuz the times of a bunch of bored shop assistants following me around trying to make me buy things have scared me to my core.
I‘m just like that! Nice to know I‘m not the only one😂
As someone that worked in luxury retail , the only time it’s annoying is when customers don’t clean up after themselves and leave the store messy. Feel free to browse and try on but be mindful!
Big true. The respect is always good.
Virgil himself had a few experiences of going into Louis in his early ages then went on to be the boss. Don’t let other people’s prejudices shy you away from what you truly love/want to do - it’s your life , your world so just live it !
When I was studying fashion design, I would walk into Saks Fifth Avenue, walk around, and ask a sales associate to take the clothes I liked to a dressing room. I would try on the outfits, take pics. Take off the garment and examine closely how it was made, take pics of the lining, the finishes, stitching, etc. even tho I never bought anything they treated me amazingly. They always asked me if I wanted water or needed help with the zippers. I learnt so much not only from trying on the garments, but how important it is for a store to treat the customers with respect.
I went into the Chanel store while I was on vacation in Honolulu when I was younger and I had been on the beach all day, so I was covered in sand and wearing dirty flipflops. I told the nice sales lady I was so embarrassed to be in here looking like this because I admired Chanel as a brand so much. She was so sweet and reassured me it’s okay, I’m on vacation I’m aloud to look like this! Haha. She gave me a tour of the store and chatted with my parents. One of my fondest memories.
i make myself cecilie bahnsen dresses all the time. i just cannot afford them, but i can sew, and i can sew really well, and i really love her work, so i can make myself a $50 dress and wear it with pride. i don't have a problem with this, ethically, because i don't literally copy her work, obviously, i can't - i don't have her patterns and fabric - and i can make changes that i like better for myself, like lowering the necklines and changing the sleeves. so it's a win. sewing is great. i also knit, and i own a yarn company, and i highly recommend learning to make your own clothes.
how’d you learn to make clothes?
I mean, you're using your talents to make something you love AND you're buying less. I don't see anything ethically wrong with that all. Big shouts to you for having the skills to do it, wish I had your skills. (I regularly alter/edit things but I'm not there with full-on clothesmaking yet. Pattern cutting scares the living proverbial out of me.)
Definitely envious of your ability. If I only could…..
I went to the Balenciaga store in Paris once, the staff and security dude were super nice ! Managed to learn a lot about the brand's history and debate on fashion while looking at stuff in the shop which I will never afford lmao-
I'm afraid of being profiled and followed in luxury stores. I grew up being profiled in just a freaking Macy's department store. Probably why I default to shopping online 😅
Maybe I can get over the fear now because it's been like 15 years, but it's still intimidating
Honestly I have a sour spot with a Louis Vuitton store in Vegas, I was followed around by the sales rep even though I just wanted to check out the giant books on novelty LV items
I mentioned this in a separate reply, but definitely check out ramie. For anyone interested, it is a plant fiber used commonly in the traditional making of fabric for Korean hanbok. Fascinating production process. It is breathable, holds structure while being super lightweight, etc.
Glad you pointed out that if the sales person is a dick do not internalize it as you said is on them! Coming from the 80's Bliss Foster what I've seen happening is that Fashion is such a big part of the world that many brands want to sell, sell, sell and therefor a lot of generic/brand logos all over which seems as nobody is making anything new. Good point also on Fashion Photography too.
When I went to Venice I spent a couple of hours in designers shops like LV, Gucci, Bottega, Prada, Balenciaga... the treatment varied from one house to another but in general they made me feel like I didn't belong there. In Gucci for example an employee followed me along all the shop until I left, always staring at me.
I have to say that I've had other nice experiences. It's also hilarious when they see you checking the women clothing 😅
At least at Dior, I believe the purpose of the person following you around is that they are there to personally help you with any questions or requests. So each person who walks in will have one of the employees doing this. Which is also why they limit the amount of people inside. That was just my impression though.
I love being attended to in luxury stores. That's the whole point of luxury, that one person takes care of your needs. Nothing wrong with being followed around. It's not because they think you don't belong there. Stop that poor mentality thinking. You deserve this treatment.
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100% agree that it sucks that so much textile ends up in landfill. This is why I buy 95% of my clothes/shoes/bags etc secondhand. And when an item is legit no longer wearable you can still use it in other ways. Clothes can become cleaning rags, or if you're clever about it you can plunder the fabric to make new things. (Bags and shoes are trickier to repurpose, obvs.) A sewing machine is a wonderful thing. I'll go to great lengths to avoid putting textiles in the bin, but the best way to do that is to juuuuust fuuuuuuk'n buy less.
I went to NYC and walked in every store, didn’t try anything on but I did manage to look around. Some sales staff did talk like I couldn’t afford what was there but I didn’t let it bother me
As a guy, i always go in luxury stores if i see something interesting. Even with Adidas sweatpants and uncared hair and beard 😅 I don't try clothes only look and feel material. And i like the atmosphere of the store. I can't afford most of the products but it's much more about experience and culture. Never staff said or did something unpolite.
from an art school background - yes, all creative people get inspiration frome everything, including the now and including history.
These Q&A are so addicting to watch
ah yeah, big film enjoyer here - Similarly to how you cry at fashion: I will cry at particularly beautiful/expressive sequences and imagery in movies. It doesn't provide the cathartic feeling you get after a 'good cry' or when a movie's emotional climax makes you sob - but it does feel nice in it's own way that I can't quite put a finger on.
I have a hard time explaining this phenomenon to most people so it's always nice to hear the experience is shared
I like going in there to talk to the workers, they're not doing anything majority of the time lmao in Sydney, the luxury stores are always empty, Gucci is one of the only stores I've seen that consistently has a lot of customers no matter what time it is.
Though I understand why some people may feel like this, they are doing themselves a disservice. You should try on ,at least once in your life, well made items.
I would advise to NOT return the clothes you’ve tried on to where you found them. Try them on, re hang them, and hand them all to the attendant when you exit. Only keep something if you’re considering purchasing it. Returning the clothes yourself may raise red flags for the sales associates and they will wonder why you’re doing it yourself instead of trusting them to do it which may indicate to them you are hiding something or want to steal something. Many stores keep tabs on items and number of items you’re trying on, so it is more courteous to hand them directly back to the dressing room attendant. Do not leave them in the room or attempt to do put-backs yourself.
Bliss! You're so kind, thank you for all of your advice 🥰
loved your commentary on the bianca saunders shirt. its what I love most about fashion. Feeling those moments
I think the person asking about pants and coats was talking in contrast to women’s wear which has so many more types of garments.
i’ve have been in some high end places, tried things on and bought a nothing. I definitely got treated better when i was already wearing something nice.
I had never heard of ramie before getting a vintage cardigan at a clothes swap that was a ramie/cotton blend. It's pretty expensive to produce so you don't see it a ton, but if you look through the flowery granny knits at the thrift store, you'll happen upon it every once and a while
I went into a high end store at 3pm on a saturday with the intention of not buying anything and that’s when an employee asked me to model for them. I’ll take that
To the gentleman perhaps inferring that menswear is limited in it’s offerings I might suggest accessories. There are tons of opportunities to enhance a look-Gucci is doing wonderful things in this regard from parasols to floral brooches, scarves etc.
I went into LV to look at scarves and the associate was very friendly and helpful even though I couldn't find what I was looking for.
I love the practical and optimistic view. I think appreciating the past is important for learning and respect but also keeping an open mind for new directions and different perspectives driving continuous growth and development not just in fashion but all aspects of humanity.
I have also thought about art versus commercial aspects of fashion. Of course we love and need the creativity but we also need houses to be financially successful for necessity purposes, supporting talent as well as various artisans.
Bianca Saunders! So very good! Thank you for showing us that fine fine shirt.
If u work in production u would know that its highly unlikely that the reps are made in the same factory, with the same material with the authentic. Every bulk of order (in thousands) only have a few meters of spare fabrics, not to mention trims and labels. Saying your rep is faulty product leaked from the factory is also unlikely since that stuff dont always exists and if it does, theres only a few products and some brand are really dead set on destroying everything single one of them. Tldr: reps wearer saying they are made from the same factory is just coping
Hey Bliss - your typical audience may be people who are in their 20's and into 'heliademile' and 'raff' (NO idea who those folks are) but, not being typical myself, I thought I would let you know... I am a salty old lady (62), tall, plumpish, wearing Carhartt's (well, not always), oil painter, started into haute couture after seeing the Savage Beauty show in NYC in 2011. Lived in Paris when I was 30... thinking about going back for a late in life adventure.
I have been appreciating your videos - learning tons from them. Not pattern at the moment. Maybe soon? Love your passion and depth of knowledge. I LOVE seeing footage from inside the atelier's - a little hard to come by! Advice on where I can see more footage of clothing being constructed would be great! Good work! Thank you!
Hi! You’d be surprised actually! I’m very lucky to have a lot of viewers your age. I actively look for that because you all are such a wellspring of info.
Haha I tried to figure out what that first name was for like 2 minutes, I was sounding out “Heliademile”. So that’s Heliot Emil and Raf Simons 🦾
You should go back to Paris! Maybe not at the moment, the protests are kinda crazy. But yeah, return to the city!
For clothing construction videos, look up Iris Van Herpens channel and look at the making of videos. Chanel also produces some videos like that, also Schiaparelli’s Instagram has some outstanding behind the scenes stuff.
Thanks for sharing thoughts with us, looking forward to hearing more from ya 💫💫
@@BlissFoster thank you!
Most clothes end up in a landfill. Some of us still use rags for cleaning. If the fabric is natural, composting is possible.
Finally a fashion analyst taling ab this topic
Omg I didn’t know you were engaged congrats!
I’m new here and since right now you are in my top of UA-cam channels 💖 Amazing videos 👌🏼💗
Welcome in! We’ve built every video on this channel to be relevant forever. Feel free to dig through old episodes to find more stuff you like. As you’re going, I would love to hear your thoughts about the ideas these designers are pushing through their collections 💫💫
Glad you’re here, Diana!
O this is what that shirt is!
i prefer buy online i had very annoying experience with shop assistants its make me a bit trauma
I learnt about Ramie the plant in varsity and it's usually used for linen and it's lovely to me. I wonder what it would feel like mixed with silk or wool (I'm sure it exists) stunning in my head.
Thank you for reminding me that store clerks get board during the mid-week slumps. Canada is about to loose the Nordstrom stores (which is the only place left in this city to find mid to high end fashion items). It makes me a little sad that I was too intimidated to try on things just to check design and construction. Although, any time I did finger the merchandise I was never really bowled over with the construction techniques. Then again, I'm no fan of the interlocker...
Favorite fabrics to work with - wool, linen, cotton. Rami, huh. Sounds like a "new" natural fiber that's moving into higher production. I'll have to keep an eye out in the fabric bins...
Making my own replicas of fashion pieces is The Best education and leads to a deeper understanding of the understructure tailoring techniques that go into high end garments. I'll never be able to afford a Chanel classic suit, but I've deep dived research into the lining quilting, button placements and a whole host of other things in preparation for making my own.
As far as "the art form is dying" woes... I think we're in that lull as we figure out what the next new thing to be adapted into clothing for the next decade. Creativity is still there. Innovation is still there (distorted by fast fashion). We just don't have the new silhouette for this version of the Roaring 20's. Pandemics will do that - the early and late 1920's were completely different outlines on the body, right down to the underpinnings.
- Cathy (&, accidently, Steve), Ottawa/Bytown/Pimisi
From my understanding, ramie is a plant fiber used for centuries in korea to make their traditional hanbok clothing. It's very beautiful and breathable and holds structure in a unique way. Highly recommend learning more about it!
@@lenitarandolph Oooh, that's wonderful. Thank you so much. Sounds like it would do amazing in the heat (I wonder if it's naturally antibacterial like linen). I also wonder if the production is similar to linen, where it has to ferment for a period of time to loosen the fibers to ready them for spinning.
My shopping list for natural fibers just expanded... I didn't know that was possible... Time for a rabbit-hole deep dive... wheee...
Thank you for introducing me to Bianca Saunders, her stuff is amazing :) 😍😃😍
9:30 first thing that popped in my head was philip plein
grats on 200k!
Thanks homie 😌 it’s kinda crazy. When I had like 1200 subs, I remember seeing another channel with 200k and thinking “that doesn’t even seem like a number”.
This was a big milestone for me, thanks for taking the time to encourage me about it 💫💫
Omg I thought I was the only one with the crying at things that shouldn’t make you cry 😂
the crying thing happens to me too, for some reason it started happening when i was watching kenetic youth for the first time
I went window shopping in a Hermes store and it went terrible for me.
Just as a little side note to the reps question, thats also something that has been covered in the attempts to copyright fashion in the US. Of several proposals out there all have an exemption for personal use, so that people who make things for themselves and not to sell can do that, even if its a direct copy of something else. Which I think just underscores the importance of that practice and how normal it is (if it was something rare, the proposal writers wouldn't think to include it, if it were controversial it would be included in the ban).
not me going to designer store and trying plenty clothes without cleaning for myself😖 i always have the best chat with employees tho so i guess they like me😂
If ur leaving messes they definitely are only tolerating you
Just going to say this DOES NOT apply if you're Black. We get accused of stealing going into walmart to get groceries...
This is absolutely true and shops should be embarrassed.
This behavior goes against the philosophy of high end retail. It should be an environment where customers feel they can just chill. If the sales reps are acting like cops, they’re not doing their job (plus it’s just shitty).
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It sounds like you’ve had to experience that a lot in your own life. I’m sorry 😕
Walmart let’s people walk out with stolen goods all the time
@Bliss Foster it's ridiculous, I've experienced it too when visiting a gucci store in rodeo drive with my mom. All we did was walk around but we were being watched by one of their employees and were immediately asked if we needed help. I'm not that surprised, just disappointed and frustrated. Since they didn't act the same way towards the other people in the store.
tbh racism + the fact that im young ( i mean regularly mistaken for a middle schooler young ) is what keeps me from wandering around in high end stores lol
@@akiko3688 only cause they can't call the cops 10 times a day, they pick and choose who they'll prosecute. that doesn't mean black people can just Walk in anywhere without being cautious.
Quite amusing … this could happen only in countries that do not have any notion of service or customers care . It makes me laugh to think that a simple shop assistant would put up an attitude … as if working in a high fashion brand stores gives you an upgrade . 😂😂😂
Hey Bliss ! Who made that flannel you are wearing ? Thanks 🙏 Jason
I love it ❤️ !
Bianca Saunders 💫💫
Im 50 and Ive never had a bad experience in a store. I dont know why.
Anyone know a website where you can learn to know from what season a margiela piece is from? Or does anyone know any site where anyone talks about margielas first men’s collection from 1998/99?
Yes you can.
Only when you are going to purchase you’ll be offered a drink ( coffee or juice ).
As someone who works in a designer shoe store, I can guarantee you that sales associates HATE people who come in to try stuff on and not buy. Even worse, the people who try stuff on often ask for multiples sizes (at different times, so we have to keep going to the back for them, when they already know they're not buying anything). Just because you're allowed to try stuff on doesn't mean it's not incredibly annoying.
too bad that’s literally your job lol
That "film is dead" voice was off the chain.
Never mind ! You just told us !
I just found your channel... I am checking to see if you have anything about Ralph Lauren, or about pure silks, or about natural furs. I am a collector of vintage hand-embellished fabrics. I create with silks, cottons, wool, leather, and genuine Antique laces, many hand-made 19th century laces from Europe. All my pieces are one of a kind re-creations of Antique clothing and shoes.
I first thought you were combining a H&M shirt with designer pants ... because if I am not mistaken, H&M has this exact same print on like a thick over-shirt or how do you call this things.... was in stores this winter....
There is a viral news in my country where one of our biggest singer had a terrible experience buying some shoes at LV New York. I'm from south east asia and mostly our population is brown skinned, so there's a misconception that we are too poor to buy something high end. Most staff ignored her except from a poc staff.
about cross pollination of art forms. going back to the 60s artists and teachers very often chose a direction for a work and then moved among various medium to carry that work. these media are not silos.
Great point as always, Tim. Hope you’re having a good weekend 💫💫
@@BlissFoster Your a prince! Keep up the good work
Ok good advice but I have to add something to "buying secound hand from fast fashion companies..." When you buy them from privat sellers on the internet I think its better than buyig directly from the company, but I sometimes see people selling like 50 items from fast fashion companies and these people will most likely take the money to go and buy new stuff from the same fast fashion brands... So in some cases I would considere if its the right choice because the money will end up at H&M indirecly
Great point, I wasn’t aware people do that. Crazy 🤔
6:00 Same factory reps can be found ONLY in Italy, only if you know certain people and places, and they are often made by Bangladeshi or Chinese workers in the same factories, but during the night.
Hey homie! 😊 Do you have an article by a fact-checked news organization as a source?
I hate to be anal about this, but I’ve heard hundreds of people say this but I’ve never seen it confirmed. If you have a source for it, I’d love to read it 💫💫
@@BlissFoster its sort of an urban legend in Milan :)
Ok bliss …. Here we go! I need to know what paint colour is on your walls! Go ask your parents PLEASE 🙏
Haha 😅 it’s a Sherwin Williams color that was originally meant for painting outdoor walls and fences. It’s been discontinued for over 20 years. I just asked my dad if he remembered what it was called, and he has no idea. If you want to replicate it, your best bet is to find a video where the lighting is decent, screenshot it, and ask someone at a paint store 💫💫
@@BlissFoster Thank you 😊!
Bliss I want 2 see u as a model! You are reallyyyyy tall! And after u can tell us about your experience ❤
Haha I would hate being a model, they have such boring jobs. Sorry homie 😅 it could never be me 💫💫
I deadass go to rodeo without buying all the time idc man im looking. But I do make it look like I was never there
“just talk to the staff there” you mean my worst fear😅 Any tips on how to avoid contact with sellers?
Nah, in high end stores, they’re always going to talk to you. Fortunately, most are pretty friendly :)
@@BlissFoster Ah, luckily for my introverted self I mostly get stuff custom made or second hand 😄Tailors and cashiers both just want to get you out of the store as fast as possible so they can get new customers or sew in peace😆
Hope you're having a nice day! Your reply made me smile
7:04 bliss letting his inner dunkey show
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I love Tuba Avalon huge channel lol
going inside of rick owens in soho was terrifying
But the staff is so nice there! The space is mega brutal for sure, but I’ve only seen that staff act friendly 💫💫
lmfao nah fr 😭
Hey can you tell me a great site that goes in depth of different types of fabrics , I don’t got any knowledge on the variety of types of fabric their are , was wondering if their was a site that you n ow of that you visit that you share with me/us
There’s not any good universal resources I’ve seen. My best advice is to Google things like “what is modal/wool/ramie/etc” and just click around. Usually, there’s a site that will tell you what it is, where it comes from, and why designers choose to use it for different purposes 💫💫
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The Textilepedia book is pretty good for this too
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dam bae u pretty
12:55 imagine you saying this but unironically 😂
real talk tho i fw the stuff you’ve been putting out
hearing you talk about fashion from your pov / the way you articulate things is fascinating to me
I admire people who are multi-lingual but it’s not me 😔
@@BlissFoster nah dw i’m sure someday you’re gonna start the trend of regularly attending fancy european fashion shows to being a polyglot pipeline
i’ve been on the patreon for a while however i can’t find the link to where i can access the discord server? :(
Send me a message on Patreon, we’ll get you sorted 🙂
1337 topic!
If youre buying margiela or something its pretty dumb to say that the reps are made in the same factory, but I dont think its much of a stretch to say reps are made in ( at the very least, ) much similiar conditions to a brand like Nike or Adidas.
I’ve just not seen any evidence that this is true tho 🤷
@@BlissFoster as a person who has done more than one tech service in textile plants in italy i can say to you that a good 90% of those places are full of chinese immigrants working without a legal contract and in no better working condition than in their country
Ahhhh you know what? I completely misread your first comment. That’s my fault, sorry for the confusion. Yes, I agree 💫💫
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You have any alternatives for that Dickies collab👀👀👀 I can’t find them anywhere
I wish I knew, I want an extra pair 😂
I've noticed many high end fashion houses never have end of season sales. Are unsold items destroyed? How would this be better than an H&M blouse which may have a second life sold in a charity shop? I've noticed some midrange brands (Ann Taylor, Tahari, or Michael Kors) offload old stock to clearance companies. I know there are second market sites for secondhand clothing, but what happens to unsolds?
Many brands, most notably Louis Vuitton - absolutely do just destroy things.
Some brands have sales (for example some Balmain items have 40% off on the site). There are also personal sales where items are sold at factory prices
there are many designer outlets in italy, but not for all brands
I'm in Paris and I see the luxury brand stores and it looks as if the people who are allowed in there have some sort of proof of financial status. Am I right or am I wrong can I go in there?
You can absolutely go into stores 💫💫
Where did you used to work?
Sorry for being a dick:
The plural of 'medium' is 'media'.
English is your fifth language, so I forgive you. Love you lots x
what's funny tho, the structures in movie industry are in fact getting worse
I’d be interested to hear why. I tend to measure the quality of a medium by opportunity: more artists means better art.
A quick Google search shows that the number of feature length films released per year has doubled from 2000 to 2016 (from 400 per year to 800).
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What about the structures of movies is getting worse?
Ramie is pronounced differently
did he said SHE after my fiance?
First to comment
Confirmed 🌪️🌪️
The employees like to judge people that doesnt makea the purchase,like very judging😢
I think that fashion is dead in the sense that everyone tried to wear what was fashionable. This is dead. It frees designers to create more inspiring pieces. Runways are full of creations that inspire and delight. However this does not filter down into highstreet brands the way it used to up to the early 1980ies (I was there so I know there is a difference to the way things are now). So on the whole I think it is a good thing that fashion is dead and the art of creating clothes may rise.
racism has a crazy history in retail. lots of profiling. over time it seems to have improved. has it? is racist profiling on your mind when going to a store. does it keep you out entirely?
Dead-dead?
English is your fifth language??
I was joking, I’ve roasted myself a few times in different videos for being monolingual 😅
Reps are no-no. Period.
sometimes a piece is just downright financially irresponsible to buy legit imo
@@IMONBLOGTVWITHMYFUCKINGHANDSUP and that makes it okay to steal others people work? What effed up mentality is this? If you can’t buy it, just don’t. There are tons of brands with excellent materials that will give you a polished look. Not to mention you ain’t fooling nobody.
@@solanareznor8309 we live in a very strange world where some extremely unique pieces can go for thousands between retail and resale, i don't find it to be a problem if someone wants to pay for what they want, be it authentic or not. however i do draw the line at selling replica products as authentic, that's actually fucked up.
no offense but bliss clearly doesnt know a lot about movies lol
I love being corrected! Tell me what I missed 💫💫
Nooooo you like girls and you're not with me? I'm so angry right now.
If you didn’t, no one would ever ask you about that shirt 🫢
Wat? 🤔 I feel like I’m being dissed but I don’t understand?