I just don’t understand how the writers screwed up their romance! They could have been the absolute best couple ever!! But for whatever reason the writers never gave us closure and instead ripped our hearts out😭 I could watch this show over and over again if only they ended it differently- more rewarding 😭😭😭
I mean we got closure in 5x12, without that it would’ve ruined the whole series for me but I hate that she didn’t get a better ending. People forget she was barely 22 years old when she died. I hate that they never mentioned her age either cause they knew it would be worse
@@trustnoone5821 yeah same it goes downhill when Groo comes back for me at least. I like his character but the show I mean. I skip season 4 too. Season 5 is way better bjt I usually only rewatch “You’re Welcome”
It's nice people are still making videos of these two. Love this song. Love these two. So sad she died. She was my favourite. They deserve a happy ending.
I can't believe this song has been in my Spotify liked list for a while but wasn't on my Cangel list until now! I will never forgive Joss and the other writers responsible for what they did to these two! This was perfect and that first line in the description, fuck yeah Cangel is the superior Buffyverse ship!
When I watched Buffy and Angel I never shipped Buffy with Angel I actually didn't ship angel with anyone until Cordelia they just had so much chemistry why couldn't the writers let them be happy
it always surprises me that 20 years after, my favorite couple inspire a lot. I take Cordelia and Angel as a model of couple for me... As I read all the comments here, I admit that, their Relationship was the most natural, healthy, pure Relationship in the Buffyverse and your video reflects that perfectly. I am a Cangel shipper since the beginning and it goes on today. Angel alwas respected Cordy and Cordy respected him. I Always thought that Cordelia, since Sunnydale, Always saw Angel as a normal man and not as a vampire
Glad you like the video! And YES I totally agree- Angel & Cordelia DEFINITELY had one of the best/healthiest dynamics in the Buffyverse! She really did see him as a person, rather than a vampire, and they both brought out the best in each other!💕 Thanks for the comment!😊
YAS girl! Thanks for this video! I’ve been wishing that someone would vid them with this song, and this is truly a beautiful edit ❤️ Cordelia and Angel was by far the best relationship in the buffyverse. They were the most healthy, pure and real relationship amongs all the other toxic ones (which lets face it, they were. Tara/Willow, Spuffy, Bangel etc were toxic and unhealthy. Even Fred and Wesley whom i love and adore was not a healthy relationship). People like to use season 4 as an argument as to why Cangel was «gross», but any real fan of the shows knows that it was not actually Cordelia who came back in season 4. Sure, it was her body, but it was Jasmine who was ‘in control’ inside her, so Cordelia can’t be faulted for any of that! Anyways. I love these two so much. Instead of starting out from sheer lust, their feelings developed out of friendship which grew closer until falling in love. Cordelia brought out something in Angel that NO ONE else could, she understood him, and was the only one who could really bring put a smile on his face and enjoy himself. And no one understood Cordelia like Angel did, he saw her for the strong warrior that she was, while everyone else saw her for a shallow rich girl. He grounded her, as she did him. And they had something really intimate and real way before they ever realized it themself. I’m glad there are other Cangel fans, because they get WAAAY too much hate, simply because Cordelia is not Buffy.. the fans are too busy arguing over Spuffy vs Bangel, and even a lot of Spuffy fans hate Cangel because they feel like it was a betrayal towards Buffy. So i love seeing more Cangel fans!
Awe thank you! So glad you like the video! ❤ And OMG YES! You worded it perfectly- they really ARE the only non-toxic ship in the Buffyverse lol (well, them and Cordelia & Doyle... which probably doesn't even count because they never even got the chance to be together💔) Like, I love a lot of the relationships in BtVS/AtS, but they're all toxic😂 Like, I'm a HUGE Spuffy fan, but they're toxic as h*ll... I'm not gonna deny that. Like, literally EVERY ship, no matter how cute or romantic they are, at one point or another was toxic... And then there's Cangel- literally the perfect ship. And YES I definitely agree- season 4 was NOT Cordy, so they can't be considered toxic because of that (awful) storyline. Cause it wasn't her doing all those things... Literally all the characters in the show understood that, and didn't hold anything against her, so I really don't get why some fans wouldn't see it for how it is (more than likely they do, but they need something to complain about because they ship Bangel)... And wow really? I can't believe there are Spuffy fans who don't like Cangel... Like, how would that be an insult to Buffy? Then wouldn't it be an insult to Angel that they ship Spuffy? There's no logic to that lol... Like, people are allowed to have more than one love in life... And Angel is a vampire... he's gonna be alive (er... undead) for a LONG time, so he can't just be waiting around for Buffy forever... If they can let Buffy move on then Angel should be able to, too. Like, my mom is one of those Spuffy fans who doesn't ship Cangel and I just don't get it... I never would've guessed she wasn't the only one who doesn't ship them bc of that. And YES I absolutely love the development of their relationship... the way they became friends who depended on each other and it grew into something more... And she really was the only one who truly could make him smile... even before the spinoff, she could make him smile... UGH I just love them so much lol... ANYWAYS, OMG I'm so happy to meet another Cangel fan!!! Like, until now I'm literally the only person I knew who ships them this much lol... But I'm just babbling now lol... Anyway, thank you so much for the comment and for watching my vid! It's so great to meet other Cangel fan (especially one that I seem to agree with on like literally everything Buffyverse related so far)! They really are the best ship on the shows!😊
@Krisynthia Gomez Overall Tillow is a pretty healthy ship tbh, but one instance in season 6 was pretty toxic for them... Willow erasing Tara's memories. When confronted about it Willow failed to own up to just how wrong of her it was (especially considering the trauma Tara went through after getting mind-sucked by Glory in season 5) and was more concerned with stopping Tara from breaking up with her than actually genuinely apologizing for what she did... Other than that their relationship was pretty cute imo, but that issue was never fully resolved, so that's why it (like all buffyverse ships except cangel imo) can fall into the "toxic" category...
Writers missed an opportunity to pair these two up without circumstances getting in the way for us audience to see how Cangel would actually work as a couple
They should’ve made them closer in 1-2 as best friends even closer than they were m in those seasons and him firing her and him going off the deep end, his hurt was real when she said they weren’t friends, I wish it kept them apart so she could have her own thing instead of just Angel. She shouldn’t have forgiven him as soon as she did. She forgave him quicker than Wes (he was disappointed when he bought her clothes lol) and she forgave him. Which was there cutest scene it was in the credits by that should’ve happened later. Her being okay with him so soon after that felt off. He left them for literally months. Then them being awkward in season 3 realising they have feelings would’ve been better. I like that they developed feelings for each other naturally. It did feel organic, especially Angel obsessing over her instead of the other way around was nice. Don’t like how they made her an airhead when he was trying to tell her how he felt. I thought she would’ve knew. I hate that Cordy’s world ended up revolving around Angel only. Plus he never actually said he loved her even as a friend back in S2 when she almost died would’ve been a nice moment. Didn’t have to be romantically but it’s gutting they didn’t get their chance.
Omg I flipped out when I saw you edited a CA vid to THIS song! This song is so perfect for them, I actually thought about vidding it myself but I'm happy someone else did it instead lol we need more Cangel vidders on here, dammit! I love the voiceovers and scenes chosen, your editing really illustrates how they were soo close to getting to be together before it was stolen from them. SO frustrating. I'm one of the few people that can't even stand to watch s5 haha. But at least You're Welcome was an amazing ep.
Awe thank you SO much!!! It means a lot that you like my vid, especially since you have some of the best BtVS/AtS videos on UA-cam imo!☺ And OMG yes, I'm surprised how few Cangel vidders there are... I figured they'd have a bigger fanbase- I mean, they're such a great ship- I already have ideas for like 5 more videos with them lol... And thank you again- I'm so glad you like the video! Since I am a newer fan of the Buffyverse, my emotions from watching AtS are still pretty fresh lol, so I really tried to channel those emotions about Cangel into the video... Hopefully I succeed... I really agree, I'm so frustrated that Cangel's chance at starting a relationship in the first place was taken from them... Like I tried to show in my video, they really depended on each other, but by the time they were ready to take the next step, it was already too late and they were saying goodbye. They really were robbed... And yes OMG I loved 5x12 ("Your Welcome") it was such a great send off for Cordy's character (although I wish there hadn't been a send off in the first place... her character deserved to make it to the end of the show imo)... And honestly, I probably wouldn't be able to watch season 5 again if Spike weren't in it... he really is the only reason I like that season at all lol
@@amberdefere5521 I'm convinced the reason there aren't a lot of vids of CA, or the show in general, is because it's an older show and most people seem to focus on current fandoms. I certainly wish Ats got more attention though, because it's such a great show, people are missing out!! Lol and omg I'm so excited to hear that you have several more ideas for vids on these two!! YAY I can't wait to see them! And that's such a good way to put it, 5x12 was a great send off ep for Cordy but really...there shouldn't have actually been a send off in the first place :/ Ugh! I really love Spike but even he couldn't salvage s5 for me, I was (and am lol) just SO SALTY about the whole thing! THE LEVELS OF SALT WHICH I AM AT!!! TOO MUCH!!! lol And thanks, I got my icon from tumblr, thought it was perf for October xD
@@1SnoWhiteQueen1 That's probably it... but really, I feel like older shows (overall) are WAY BETTER than most of the newer shows on today, in my opinion... The writing, storylines, and characters in general just seem to be a lot more developed and well thought-out. It sucks that they don't get much recognition. And yeah, season 5 was pretty hard to get through at times... As much as I love Spike (like I said, basically the only reason I liked that season at all), I hated the role they gave his character in S5. Basically, Spike's only purpose was to create conflict between him and Angel... And, the way they did that, by totally switching gears and making it seem like Angel wasn't in love with Cordy for like almost 5 years, just so they can bring up the Bangel VS Spuffy conflict- It totally undercut CA and just Cordy's importance to the show overall imo... It also totally undercut the depth of Spike's character... Like, he could have done so much more that season... So yeah, I'm VERY bitter about that lol... Like, Angel and Spike had PLENTY of reasons not to get along without throwing Buffy into the mix... Everything about that season just felt so rushed... So, yeah, I'm pretty salty about it, too lol... Like, season 5 had so much potential, and then it just bombed, and Spike (and Harmony tbh) is really the only reason I like any of the episodes that season at all
@@amberdefere5521 probably an unpopular opinion but I also feel like ships were better in older shows as well? Like there are still good ships out there ofc, but I feel like it's rarer these days that I actually get SUPER attached to a pairing like I used to in the old days. Or if I do like a ship, they end up going NOWHERE lol. Maybe it's just the stuff I watch, but that's how it feels! I miss slow burns and longing lol. That's *exactly* how I felt about Spike in s5 too, like he was just there to create conflict for Angel and also be the wacky comic relief guy, both of which really undermines his character and all his growth. It was frustrating to watch and seemed so regressive after s7, and he deserved so much more than that. Some of the Spike/Angel stuff IS funny, but mostly it was SO grating to see them fighting like children every damn ep lol (let's not even start on how OOC Angel was in that season!). I agree s5 had SO much potential though, and it really bites that they didn't live up to any of it. Imagine Cordy being there for the whole season and forming a wacky friendship with Spike?? I'd LIVE!
Cordelia was my favorite character! 😂 And, amy acker was too. Angel alway's could be hisself with her.💯 It'd would of been nice too see charisma carpenter & david boreanaz end game hea're.💔 ,They; really gave us wing's,....🪽🕊️ beneath,•our•feet.👼 😢 Thank you for this beautiful legendary story between cangel!!♥️ Cangel,ForEVEVER!!!!!!🎉
Amber De Fere With age you realize just how complex relationships are, so with that said I do believe Darla was Angelus’ first and only love, Buffy being Angel’s first love and Cordelia being the last one he gave his heart to: in other words his last love. I would go far to say Cangel was the most stable and mature. So I can rest easily with that bit. Cangel had the last dynamic that impacted Angel in such a huge and beautiful way. Long live!!
Yes! Definitely agree that his relationship with Cordy was the most stable/healthy/mature... He may have loved Buffy and Darla beforehand, but you can clearly see that it was NOTHING compared to what he had with Cordelia... She understood him like no one else could and she was one of the only ones who could actually make him smile... And, on the flip side, he was one of the only ones who loved her for who she was, not just when she was at her best, but also when she was at her worst. Ugh, & they were just so cute! My favorite Buffyverse ship!
Under the crown (oh I forgot I’m talking to some Septics = Septic tanks = Yanks = Americans). The Tasmanian accent is the closet to the American Californian accent. We don’t even realise we are doing it. Well what do you expect there was only 2 tv channels and my favourite show was… you’re all going to laugh (well I won’t translate that, I used to get in trouble for saying at school) "the Brady Brady”. PS my dad sounds exactly like, well, Sid James, laugh and all. And if you are down hear what ever you do don’t ask for a beer. Our word for … is the same the Cockney, without the rhyming word. I know so many people have been arrested. It has taken me close to 30 years to write this. I won’t tell you who I’m related too. Well why not I got this far ‘I’ve got a pick a pocket or two”. The real one was transported to… Van Diemens land = Tasmania
i just want to TALK to joss 😠😠😠 how dare he 😭 it makes so much sense for angel to be with cordelia. from an adult standpoint, way more sense than him and buffy. one thing i was just tired of was the constant dancing around each other and how, for some reason in the buffyverse, people are never straight up. they just have misunderstandings or are super vague or just weird saying what they think. like cordy is literally known to never hide her feelings and says what shes thinking so her not telling angel she loved him the minute she realized she did is just some whedon-level bs.
Me who watch all cangel vidoes on yt. These two deserve so much better. I don't understand why ppl ship bangel of they have something like cangel. Angel never love Buffy like she love him. He love her but not that much. He felt something for Cordy from the beginning of btvs, their connected is amazing. She make him smile and laugh. She was him soulmate.
tbh buffy wasnt the greatest girlfriend ever or ex gf for that matter. it put me off how she'd beat on him sometimes. most notably in angel 1x19 sanctuary when she punched him as hard as she could, went for another swing and then got mad when he hit her back and then threw her new rebound in his face. she had a nasty attitude where it mattered like bringing up his vampirism whenever they argued in their early relationship. cordelia accepted him the way he was and wasn't all melancholic over what he could be. i dont think buffy will ever really accept that they way he is is the way he is. cordy loved him regardless. completely.
@@elisabethhutchinson2987 Yes, true. She could never accept Angel like Cordy did. But its true Buffy love him more the he love her. Buffy always think Angel was her great/true love but he never was. True love not look like bangel. Real love look more like cangel or spuffy, yes they was toxic in series but its was because of Buffy. Cordy x Angel was healthy and good for each other, they love each other. Cordy and Angel wad soulmate. Buffy is complieted character in the end. She was blind of Angel, their relationship, he hurt and destroy her and she even don't understand how much he hurt her. Thats why her relationship with Spike was that hard and toxic. "Angel have a soul", "Angel is good" She never understand good or evil. I have many reason to not shipp bangel. Angel never see Buffy but he see Cordy. He know Cordy very good. He said she was the most beautiful woman he meet.
that was nasty and it was joss's way of getting back at charisma for getting pregnant and having to leave the show for a while. he was professional like that //sarcasm
I don't know much about this ship, tbh that was the first video, I've seen about them, but it was awesome! Well done, a-and... uhm... I'm sorry... I mean, then it's because of me, that you could not finish the ypiv... It's so awkward... I'm so sorry, that I chose Seddie, but I hope soon it'll be okay, even with them anyway, because I can't wait to see them from you in that video. 😍
Awe thank you! Glad you like it! And OMG I definitely recommend this show (Buffy the Vampire Slayer & the spin-off Angel) it's basically the original Vampire Diaries/The Originals lol... I think you'd like it (although season 1 is a bit slow tbh)... And lol its no problem, it's not just Seddie scenes I'm having a hard time finding for my YPIV edit (that's just the main one lol), like I'm also having a hard time finding Kolvina, Malec, and Rumbelle scenes too (bc I have a terrible memory and can't remember what episodes most of them are in lol)
@@amberdefere5521 You're welcome! :) Thank you for recommending the show, I believe that it must be awesome, but I'm interested in a few other shows atm, that I'd like to watch. One of them is Gotham, because Selina and Bruce seem such a shippable couple for me! Btw, I watched some of your videos about them and they were awesome, maybe I'll write some comments, too, I gave thumbs ups already for them, but somehow I did not comment, so this is one of the shows, I wanna watch and the other is a new show, Carnival Row, but I'm kinda unsure about it, since someone (whose video introduced me to the couple, I got interested in) told me, there is a lot of nudity in it and that would definitely bother me a lot. I mean, I was thinking about skipping them, but idk, if it can work. Also I started The Gifted, I finished s1, but never got around to start s2 yet, but I want to... So thank you, but this 3 are on my list rn, maybe if I'm done with them (but either way, usually I rather write my own novels then watching shows), so it can take a while... Anyway, glad to know, that Seddie is not the only problem. And don't worry, my memory is so bad, too. xD I only remember Rebekah's, Katherine's and Kol's scenes (and even with them there are a few, I don't xD) so it's okay, it's always harder for me, if I edit another shows, too. xD So, I totally get it! :DD
@@reginaroseblack5849 OMG yes you should totally watch Gotham!! Such a great show! And I've heard of The Gifted... it's on my list of shows I want to watch, but I haven't gotten around to it yet... And I don't think I've heard of Carnival Row, but tbh I probably wouldn't be that interested in it if it's as MA Rated as it sounds... I'm not really a fan of shows with that much "mature content" lol... that's why I've still never seen Game of Thrones. And yeah, I get that, tbh I'd probably rather be writing rather than watching TV, too... except I'm practically addicted to certain shows, so I can't help but watch them anyways haha... And yeah, I get that- Like, I have almost every BatCat scene memorized, but I couldn't tell you anything else that happened in any given episode of Gotham lol... My memory is very selective based on the characters/ships I edit most (Also, sorry I didn't see your reply until now... my notifications have been all out of wack lately)
@@amberdefere5521 Yeah, I'd really like to! I'm so excited about it! (But I just started to write a new book, so maybe I wait a little haha xD). Yeah, well The Gifted's season 1 was good, but nothing extraordinary, I liked it, but wasn't my best watch-experience, but I'm still hoping s2 would be better, since when I watched Teen Wolf, I did not like s1 at all (even tho, I know a lot of people might have liked it more than some later seasons) but with s2 I started to get obsessed over it, so it can happen with The Gifted as well. At least, that's what I'm hoping. I mean, judging by the fanvideos I saw of them, it seems pretty great! :D About Carnival Row, I understand it. I don't like mature content either. I, tho, wanted to start GoT, because of a certain ship, but then I never did, because of both the nudity and also huge violence, which I can't stand if it's over a certain point. I mean, violence at some point is needed for any good tv shows, but too much of them is just no. Actually, the real reason I have not started GoT ever, is because I read about a scene, which creeped me out by just reading it. So... yeah. About Carnival Row, it's also because of a ship and a character, but I don't know, if skipping nude scenes could work... It's not just that, I don't like it, I mean, I don't, but my main reason of not watching nude scenes is my religion, which is Roman-Catholic, Christian, so... Yeah, you know... But I would still like to believe that skipping could work. I mean, there was a Muslim girl, I know, and watched GoT, and she told me, she also skipped those scenes, so maybe? Idk, tho. Anyway, yeah, I guess most vidders are just like us, with remembering. :DD And don't worry, I often don't get notified about some things, that are important. So, I get it. :))
@@reginaroseblack5849 You're writing a new book? That's so cool! What's it about, if you don't mind me asking? And yeah, I know what you mean, how sometimes the first season isn't as good as the rest of them... Like, this one show I'm obsessed with, Smallville, didn't have the best first season, but the rest of it was INCREDIBLE... And yeah, lol I start a lot of shows because of certain ships or characters too... That's why I started Gotham, Reign, Stranger Things, BtVS, and a TON of other shows lol... And yeah, I'm not a fan of shows with high violence and nudity... I almost started GoT because of a ship video I saw on UA-cam, but then I heard about all the mature content and was like yeah I'll pass lol... Like, I'm not opposed to violence in TV shows (otherwise I probably wouldn't watch a lot of the shows that I do lol)... Like, people killing monsters or monsters killing people- that's all fine. But when it becomes an excessive amount of people killing people (especially if it's all bloody/gory) then that's just not a show for me... Like, it's just a bit TOO dark for my taste. And yeah, I get not wanting to watch because of religion... I'm a Christian (nondenominational) so that's part of why I'm so opposed to all that... And I tried skipping over scenes like you mentioned with a different show (Outlander... which I started watching because of a ship) but there was just so much of it, and a lot of times there were conversations going on during those scenes with important plot info I'd miss... and so I just stopped watching. Like, I couldn't even finish the first season of the show. My sister started watching Game of Thrones, and she had the same issue... Eventually she just stopped watching (around season 2 I think?) because the show just got so violent and there was so much nudity and all that... it really sucks that some shows feel the need to add all of that... Like, they think they need all of that to be a good show when really it makes people not want to watch it.
I just don’t understand how the writers screwed up their romance! They could have been the absolute best couple ever!! But for whatever reason the writers never gave us closure and instead ripped our hearts out😭 I could watch this show over and over again if only they ended it differently- more rewarding 😭😭😭
I hope with the truth out about Wheadon and her real life pregnancy it all makes sense now? 😭
I usually watch till like season 3 after that I usually stop I cant bring myself to even think abt season 4 it makes my blood boil
I mean we got closure in 5x12, without that it would’ve ruined the whole series for me but I hate that she didn’t get a better ending. People forget she was barely 22 years old when she died. I hate that they never mentioned her age either cause they knew it would be worse
@@trustnoone5821 yeah same it goes downhill when Groo comes back for me at least. I like his character but the show I mean. I skip season 4 too. Season 5 is way better bjt I usually only rewatch “You’re Welcome”
It's nice people are still making videos of these two. Love this song. Love these two. So sad she died. She was my favourite. They deserve a happy ending.
I agree! They definitely deserved a happy ending❤ Cordelia was the best character on the show!
Thanks for watching my vid! Glad you liked it☺
I can't believe this song has been in my Spotify liked list for a while but wasn't on my Cangel list until now!
I will never forgive Joss and the other writers responsible for what they did to these two!
This was perfect and that first line in the description, fuck yeah Cangel is the superior Buffyverse ship!
he made more sense with her than him with buffy lol.
When I watched Buffy and Angel I never shipped Buffy with Angel I actually didn't ship angel with anyone until Cordelia they just had so much chemistry why couldn't the writers let them be happy
Ikr?! Cangel deserved to be happy together❤
They had the best chemistry and were so natural together and had great progression as well. So upsetting they never got their chance.
same
it always surprises me that 20 years after, my favorite couple inspire a lot. I take Cordelia and Angel as a model of couple for me...
As I read all the comments here, I admit that, their Relationship was the most natural, healthy, pure Relationship in the Buffyverse and your video reflects that perfectly. I am a Cangel shipper since the beginning and it goes on today. Angel alwas respected Cordy and Cordy respected him. I Always thought that Cordelia, since Sunnydale, Always saw Angel as a normal man and not as a vampire
Glad you like the video! And YES I totally agree- Angel & Cordelia DEFINITELY had one of the best/healthiest dynamics in the Buffyverse! She really did see him as a person, rather than a vampire, and they both brought out the best in each other!💕
Thanks for the comment!😊
Just the closure I needed ❤️😭
YAS girl! Thanks for this video! I’ve been wishing that someone would vid them with this song, and this is truly a beautiful edit ❤️
Cordelia and Angel was by far the best relationship in the buffyverse. They were the most healthy, pure and real relationship amongs all the other toxic ones (which lets face it, they were. Tara/Willow, Spuffy, Bangel etc were toxic and unhealthy. Even Fred and Wesley whom i love and adore was not a healthy relationship).
People like to use season 4 as an argument as to why Cangel was «gross», but any real fan of the shows knows that it was not actually Cordelia who came back in season 4. Sure, it was her body, but it was Jasmine who was ‘in control’ inside her, so Cordelia can’t be faulted for any of that!
Anyways. I love these two so much. Instead of starting out from sheer lust, their feelings developed out of friendship which grew closer until falling in love. Cordelia brought out something in Angel that NO ONE else could, she understood him, and was the only one who could really bring put a smile on his face and enjoy himself. And no one understood Cordelia like Angel did, he saw her for the strong warrior that she was, while everyone else saw her for a shallow rich girl. He grounded her, as she did him. And they had something really intimate and real way before they ever realized it themself.
I’m glad there are other Cangel fans, because they get WAAAY too much hate, simply because Cordelia is not Buffy.. the fans are too busy arguing over Spuffy vs Bangel, and even a lot of Spuffy fans hate Cangel because they feel like it was a betrayal towards Buffy. So i love seeing more Cangel fans!
Awe thank you! So glad you like the video! ❤
And OMG YES! You worded it perfectly- they really ARE the only non-toxic ship in the Buffyverse lol (well, them and Cordelia & Doyle... which probably doesn't even count because they never even got the chance to be together💔) Like, I love a lot of the relationships in BtVS/AtS, but they're all toxic😂 Like, I'm a HUGE Spuffy fan, but they're toxic as h*ll... I'm not gonna deny that. Like, literally EVERY ship, no matter how cute or romantic they are, at one point or another was toxic... And then there's Cangel- literally the perfect ship. And YES I definitely agree- season 4 was NOT Cordy, so they can't be considered toxic because of that (awful) storyline. Cause it wasn't her doing all those things... Literally all the characters in the show understood that, and didn't hold anything against her, so I really don't get why some fans wouldn't see it for how it is (more than likely they do, but they need something to complain about because they ship Bangel)... And wow really? I can't believe there are Spuffy fans who don't like Cangel... Like, how would that be an insult to Buffy? Then wouldn't it be an insult to Angel that they ship Spuffy? There's no logic to that lol... Like, people are allowed to have more than one love in life... And Angel is a vampire... he's gonna be alive (er... undead) for a LONG time, so he can't just be waiting around for Buffy forever... If they can let Buffy move on then Angel should be able to, too. Like, my mom is one of those Spuffy fans who doesn't ship Cangel and I just don't get it... I never would've guessed she wasn't the only one who doesn't ship them bc of that.
And YES I absolutely love the development of their relationship... the way they became friends who depended on each other and it grew into something more... And she really was the only one who truly could make him smile... even before the spinoff, she could make him smile... UGH I just love them so much lol...
ANYWAYS, OMG I'm so happy to meet another Cangel fan!!! Like, until now I'm literally the only person I knew who ships them this much lol... But I'm just babbling now lol... Anyway, thank you so much for the comment and for watching my vid! It's so great to meet other Cangel fan (especially one that I seem to agree with on like literally everything Buffyverse related so far)! They really are the best ship on the shows!😊
@Krisynthia Gomez Overall Tillow is a pretty healthy ship tbh, but one instance in season 6 was pretty toxic for them... Willow erasing Tara's memories. When confronted about it Willow failed to own up to just how wrong of her it was (especially considering the trauma Tara went through after getting mind-sucked by Glory in season 5) and was more concerned with stopping Tara from breaking up with her than actually genuinely apologizing for what she did... Other than that their relationship was pretty cute imo, but that issue was never fully resolved, so that's why it (like all buffyverse ships except cangel imo) can fall into the "toxic" category...
from 2:47 till the end I´ve got goosebumps as hell and tears in my eyes but the whole video is an absolute masterpiece
my beautiful babies I love this so much
Awe thank you!😊 And ik, I love them so much! OTP!!❤
These two were the best ship in the whole Buffyverse!
Writers missed an opportunity to pair these two up without circumstances getting in the way for us audience to see how Cangel would actually work as a couple
Definitely agree! I wish we could've gotten the chance to see them as an actual couple... it would've been so cute but also very interesting plot-wise
They should’ve made them closer in 1-2 as best friends even closer than they were m in those seasons and him firing her and him going off the deep end, his hurt was real when she said they weren’t friends, I wish it kept them apart so she could have her own thing instead of just Angel. She shouldn’t have forgiven him as soon as she did. She forgave him quicker than Wes (he was disappointed when he bought her clothes lol) and she forgave him. Which was there cutest scene it was in the credits by that should’ve happened later. Her being okay with him so soon after that felt off. He left them for literally months. Then them being awkward in season 3 realising they have feelings would’ve been better. I like that they developed feelings for each other naturally. It did feel organic, especially Angel obsessing over her instead of the other way around was nice. Don’t like how they made her an airhead when he was trying to tell her how he felt. I thought she would’ve knew. I hate that Cordy’s world ended up revolving around Angel only. Plus he never actually said he loved her even as a friend back in S2 when she almost died would’ve been a nice moment. Didn’t have to be romantically but it’s gutting they didn’t get their chance.
Love ❤️ Angel 💞 Cordelia ❤💋🥰 great edition!!! 🫶🏻❤️👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🙌🏼
Omg I flipped out when I saw you edited a CA vid to THIS song! This song is so perfect for them, I actually thought about vidding it myself but I'm happy someone else did it instead lol we need more Cangel vidders on here, dammit!
I love the voiceovers and scenes chosen, your editing really illustrates how they were soo close to getting to be together before it was stolen from them. SO frustrating. I'm one of the few people that can't even stand to watch s5 haha. But at least You're Welcome was an amazing ep.
Awe thank you SO much!!! It means a lot that you like my vid, especially since you have some of the best BtVS/AtS videos on UA-cam imo!☺ And OMG yes, I'm surprised how few Cangel vidders there are... I figured they'd have a bigger fanbase- I mean, they're such a great ship- I already have ideas for like 5 more videos with them lol... And thank you again- I'm so glad you like the video! Since I am a newer fan of the Buffyverse, my emotions from watching AtS are still pretty fresh lol, so I really tried to channel those emotions about Cangel into the video... Hopefully I succeed... I really agree, I'm so frustrated that Cangel's chance at starting a relationship in the first place was taken from them... Like I tried to show in my video, they really depended on each other, but by the time they were ready to take the next step, it was already too late and they were saying goodbye. They really were robbed... And yes OMG I loved 5x12 ("Your Welcome") it was such a great send off for Cordy's character (although I wish there hadn't been a send off in the first place... her character deserved to make it to the end of the show imo)... And honestly, I probably wouldn't be able to watch season 5 again if Spike weren't in it... he really is the only reason I like that season at all lol
Also, OMG I love your profile pic with Cordy from the Halloween episode- so cute!
@@amberdefere5521 I'm convinced the reason there aren't a lot of vids of CA, or the show in general, is because it's an older show and most people seem to focus on current fandoms. I certainly wish Ats got more attention though, because it's such a great show, people are missing out!! Lol and omg I'm so excited to hear that you have several more ideas for vids on these two!! YAY I can't wait to see them!
And that's such a good way to put it, 5x12 was a great send off ep for Cordy but really...there shouldn't have actually been a send off in the first place :/ Ugh! I really love Spike but even he couldn't salvage s5 for me, I was (and am lol) just SO SALTY about the whole thing! THE LEVELS OF SALT WHICH I AM AT!!! TOO MUCH!!! lol
And thanks, I got my icon from tumblr, thought it was perf for October xD
@@1SnoWhiteQueen1 That's probably it... but really, I feel like older shows (overall) are WAY BETTER than most of the newer shows on today, in my opinion... The writing, storylines, and characters in general just seem to be a lot more developed and well thought-out. It sucks that they don't get much recognition.
And yeah, season 5 was pretty hard to get through at times... As much as I love Spike (like I said, basically the only reason I liked that season at all), I hated the role they gave his character in S5. Basically, Spike's only purpose was to create conflict between him and Angel... And, the way they did that, by totally switching gears and making it seem like Angel wasn't in love with Cordy for like almost 5 years, just so they can bring up the Bangel VS Spuffy conflict- It totally undercut CA and just Cordy's importance to the show overall imo... It also totally undercut the depth of Spike's character... Like, he could have done so much more that season... So yeah, I'm VERY bitter about that lol... Like, Angel and Spike had PLENTY of reasons not to get along without throwing Buffy into the mix... Everything about that season just felt so rushed... So, yeah, I'm pretty salty about it, too lol... Like, season 5 had so much potential, and then it just bombed, and Spike (and Harmony tbh) is really the only reason I like any of the episodes that season at all
@@amberdefere5521 probably an unpopular opinion but I also feel like ships were better in older shows as well? Like there are still good ships out there ofc, but I feel like it's rarer these days that I actually get SUPER attached to a pairing like I used to in the old days. Or if I do like a ship, they end up going NOWHERE lol. Maybe it's just the stuff I watch, but that's how it feels! I miss slow burns and longing lol.
That's *exactly* how I felt about Spike in s5 too, like he was just there to create conflict for Angel and also be the wacky comic relief guy, both of which really undermines his character and all his growth. It was frustrating to watch and seemed so regressive after s7, and he deserved so much more than that. Some of the Spike/Angel stuff IS funny, but mostly it was SO grating to see them fighting like children every damn ep lol (let's not even start on how OOC Angel was in that season!). I agree s5 had SO much potential though, and it really bites that they didn't live up to any of it. Imagine Cordy being there for the whole season and forming a wacky friendship with Spike?? I'd LIVE!
God this is so beautiful!! ;( They really were great together and the writers screwed them up!! Amazing edit and love the song choice for them.
Cordelia was my favorite character! 😂 And, amy acker was too. Angel alway's could be hisself with her.💯 It'd would of been nice too see charisma carpenter & david boreanaz end game hea're.💔 ,They; really gave us wing's,....🪽🕊️ beneath,•our•feet.👼 😢 Thank you for this beautiful legendary story between cangel!!♥️ Cangel,ForEVEVER!!!!!!🎉
He left Buffy because she was human basically and then still messes around with a human. This never made sense to me.
He left Buffy because he realized Buffy was too invested in him and was closing herself off to any other future. Hardly the case with Cordy.
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I’m rewatching the show and god, I love these two so much. :( justice for my babies
Yesss! Definition of deserved better!
Amber De Fere With age you realize just how complex relationships are, so with that said I do believe Darla was Angelus’ first and only love, Buffy being Angel’s first love and Cordelia being the last one he gave his heart to: in other words his last love. I would go far to say Cangel was the most stable and mature. So I can rest easily with that bit. Cangel had the last dynamic that impacted Angel in such a huge and beautiful way. Long live!!
Yes! Definitely agree that his relationship with Cordy was the most stable/healthy/mature... He may have loved Buffy and Darla beforehand, but you can clearly see that it was NOTHING compared to what he had with Cordelia... She understood him like no one else could and she was one of the only ones who could actually make him smile... And, on the flip side, he was one of the only ones who loved her for who she was, not just when she was at her best, but also when she was at her worst. Ugh, & they were just so cute! My favorite Buffyverse ship!
I can’t stop watching this video beautiful
Thank you!!
ive always shipped them back in buffy :(
Cried so much. I really wanted them together x
Under the crown (oh I forgot I’m talking to some Septics = Septic tanks = Yanks = Americans). The Tasmanian accent is the closet to the American Californian accent. We don’t even realise we are doing it. Well what do you expect there was only 2 tv channels and my favourite show was… you’re all going to laugh (well I won’t translate that, I used to get in trouble for saying at school) "the Brady Brady”. PS my dad sounds exactly like, well, Sid James, laugh and all.
And if you are down hear what ever you do don’t ask for a beer. Our word for … is the same the Cockney, without the rhyming word. I know so many people have been arrested.
It has taken me close to 30 years to write this. I won’t tell you who I’m related too. Well why not I got this far ‘I’ve got a pick a pocket or two”. The real one was transported to… Van Diemens land = Tasmania
Truly loved them a lot
Oddio vedo che io e te shippiamo le coppie diverse ma comunque mi piace questo video ❤
Perfect song for a perfect ship
Awe thank you sm!
I love Cordelia. I wish she was my girlfriend
Cangel 🔥🖤 my otp forever!
This is such a beautiful video! ♥️
Thank you!🥰
i just want to TALK to joss 😠😠😠
how dare he 😭 it makes so much sense for angel to be with cordelia. from an adult standpoint, way more sense than him and buffy. one thing i was just tired of was the constant dancing around each other and how, for some reason in the buffyverse, people are never straight up. they just have misunderstandings or are super vague or just weird saying what they think. like cordy is literally known to never hide her feelings and says what shes thinking so her not telling angel she loved him the minute she realized she did is just some whedon-level bs.
I lovedddd them
So beautiful
Awe thank you!
Well done
Me who watch all cangel vidoes on yt.
These two deserve so much better.
I don't understand why ppl ship bangel of they have something like cangel.
Angel never love Buffy like she love him. He love her but not that much.
He felt something for Cordy from the beginning of btvs, their connected is amazing. She make him smile and laugh. She was him soulmate.
tbh buffy wasnt the greatest girlfriend ever or ex gf for that matter. it put me off how she'd beat on him sometimes. most notably in angel 1x19 sanctuary when she punched him as hard as she could, went for another swing and then got mad when he hit her back and then threw her new rebound in his face. she had a nasty attitude where it mattered like bringing up his vampirism whenever they argued in their early relationship. cordelia accepted him the way he was and wasn't all melancholic over what he could be. i dont think buffy will ever really accept that they way he is is the way he is. cordy loved him regardless. completely.
@@elisabethhutchinson2987 Yes, true. She could never accept Angel like Cordy did. But its true Buffy love him more the he love her. Buffy always think Angel was her great/true love but he never was. True love not look like bangel. Real love look more like cangel or spuffy, yes they was toxic in series but its was because of Buffy. Cordy x Angel was healthy and good for each other, they love each other. Cordy and Angel wad soulmate.
Buffy is complieted character in the end. She was blind of Angel, their relationship, he hurt and destroy her and she even don't understand how much he hurt her. Thats why her relationship with Spike was that hard and toxic.
"Angel have a soul", "Angel is good"
She never understand good or evil.
I have many reason to not shipp bangel. Angel never see Buffy but he see Cordy. He know Cordy very good. He said she was the most beautiful woman he meet.
Still shipping them lol one of my first OTPs
Angel and Cordelia. Two broken souls(in Angel's case--unsoul) lived in despair world and yet, they were fated to be together. But fate was so cruel that turn Cordelia into worse being but Angel(after his brutal years as Angelus) managed to bring her back but the damage was done. Cordelia was gone but not appearing to him one last time to say goodbye.
Both Angel and Cordelia deserved to be happy more. ❤️
And F*©k Joss Whedon, the man who literally destroy almost everyone's lives, both fictional and real life.
I really shipped them! 😢
Yes!
It sucks that they made her sleep with Connor, they should have let them resume their romance instead of putting that in :(
that was nasty and it was joss's way of getting back at charisma for getting pregnant and having to leave the show for a while. he was professional like that //sarcasm
With slayers we could have this
Brilliant
I don't know much about this ship, tbh that was the first video, I've seen about them, but it was awesome! Well done, a-and... uhm... I'm sorry... I mean, then it's because of me, that you could not finish the ypiv... It's so awkward... I'm so sorry, that I chose Seddie, but I hope soon it'll be okay, even with them anyway, because I can't wait to see them from you in that video. 😍
Awe thank you! Glad you like it! And OMG I definitely recommend this show (Buffy the Vampire Slayer & the spin-off Angel) it's basically the original Vampire Diaries/The Originals lol... I think you'd like it (although season 1 is a bit slow tbh)... And lol its no problem, it's not just Seddie scenes I'm having a hard time finding for my YPIV edit (that's just the main one lol), like I'm also having a hard time finding Kolvina, Malec, and Rumbelle scenes too (bc I have a terrible memory and can't remember what episodes most of them are in lol)
@@amberdefere5521 You're welcome! :) Thank you for recommending the show, I believe that it must be awesome, but I'm interested in a few other shows atm, that I'd like to watch. One of them is Gotham, because Selina and Bruce seem such a shippable couple for me! Btw, I watched some of your videos about them and they were awesome, maybe I'll write some comments, too, I gave thumbs ups already for them, but somehow I did not comment, so this is one of the shows, I wanna watch and the other is a new show, Carnival Row, but I'm kinda unsure about it, since someone (whose video introduced me to the couple, I got interested in) told me, there is a lot of nudity in it and that would definitely bother me a lot. I mean, I was thinking about skipping them, but idk, if it can work. Also I started The Gifted, I finished s1, but never got around to start s2 yet, but I want to... So thank you, but this 3 are on my list rn, maybe if I'm done with them (but either way, usually I rather write my own novels then watching shows), so it can take a while...
Anyway, glad to know, that Seddie is not the only problem. And don't worry, my memory is so bad, too. xD I only remember Rebekah's, Katherine's and Kol's scenes (and even with them there are a few, I don't xD) so it's okay, it's always harder for me, if I edit another shows, too. xD So, I totally get it! :DD
@@reginaroseblack5849 OMG yes you should totally watch Gotham!! Such a great show! And I've heard of The Gifted... it's on my list of shows I want to watch, but I haven't gotten around to it yet... And I don't think I've heard of Carnival Row, but tbh I probably wouldn't be that interested in it if it's as MA Rated as it sounds... I'm not really a fan of shows with that much "mature content" lol... that's why I've still never seen Game of Thrones. And yeah, I get that, tbh I'd probably rather be writing rather than watching TV, too... except I'm practically addicted to certain shows, so I can't help but watch them anyways haha...
And yeah, I get that- Like, I have almost every BatCat scene memorized, but I couldn't tell you anything else that happened in any given episode of Gotham lol... My memory is very selective based on the characters/ships I edit most
(Also, sorry I didn't see your reply until now... my notifications have been all out of wack lately)
@@amberdefere5521 Yeah, I'd really like to! I'm so excited about it! (But I just started to write a new book, so maybe I wait a little haha xD). Yeah, well The Gifted's season 1 was good, but nothing extraordinary, I liked it, but wasn't my best watch-experience, but I'm still hoping s2 would be better, since when I watched Teen Wolf, I did not like s1 at all (even tho, I know a lot of people might have liked it more than some later seasons) but with s2 I started to get obsessed over it, so it can happen with The Gifted as well. At least, that's what I'm hoping. I mean, judging by the fanvideos I saw of them, it seems pretty great! :D About Carnival Row, I understand it. I don't like mature content either. I, tho, wanted to start GoT, because of a certain ship, but then I never did, because of both the nudity and also huge violence, which I can't stand if it's over a certain point. I mean, violence at some point is needed for any good tv shows, but too much of them is just no. Actually, the real reason I have not started GoT ever, is because I read about a scene, which creeped me out by just reading it. So... yeah. About Carnival Row, it's also because of a ship and a character, but I don't know, if skipping nude scenes could work... It's not just that, I don't like it, I mean, I don't, but my main reason of not watching nude scenes is my religion, which is Roman-Catholic, Christian, so... Yeah, you know... But I would still like to believe that skipping could work. I mean, there was a Muslim girl, I know, and watched GoT, and she told me, she also skipped those scenes, so maybe? Idk, tho.
Anyway, yeah, I guess most vidders are just like us, with remembering. :DD And don't worry, I often don't get notified about some things, that are important. So, I get it. :))
@@reginaroseblack5849 You're writing a new book? That's so cool! What's it about, if you don't mind me asking?
And yeah, I know what you mean, how sometimes the first season isn't as good as the rest of them... Like, this one show I'm obsessed with, Smallville, didn't have the best first season, but the rest of it was INCREDIBLE... And yeah, lol I start a lot of shows because of certain ships or characters too... That's why I started Gotham, Reign, Stranger Things, BtVS, and a TON of other shows lol... And yeah, I'm not a fan of shows with high violence and nudity... I almost started GoT because of a ship video I saw on UA-cam, but then I heard about all the mature content and was like yeah I'll pass lol... Like, I'm not opposed to violence in TV shows (otherwise I probably wouldn't watch a lot of the shows that I do lol)... Like, people killing monsters or monsters killing people- that's all fine. But when it becomes an excessive amount of people killing people (especially if it's all bloody/gory) then that's just not a show for me... Like, it's just a bit TOO dark for my taste. And yeah, I get not wanting to watch because of religion... I'm a Christian (nondenominational) so that's part of why I'm so opposed to all that... And I tried skipping over scenes like you mentioned with a different show (Outlander... which I started watching because of a ship) but there was just so much of it, and a lot of times there were conversations going on during those scenes with important plot info I'd miss... and so I just stopped watching. Like, I couldn't even finish the first season of the show. My sister started watching Game of Thrones, and she had the same issue... Eventually she just stopped watching (around season 2 I think?) because the show just got so violent and there was so much nudity and all that... it really sucks that some shows feel the need to add all of that... Like, they think they need all of that to be a good show when really it makes people not want to watch it.
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First of all, how dare you
I stopped watching the show the moment cordelia left it
Is Cordelia pregnant? Is son's Angel too?
The baby was Angel's and not Cordelia's, but later on in the show Cordelia was technically pregnant, but it wasn't Angel's
@@amberdefere5521 thanks for the answer
I will NEVER forgive joss 😭😭😭😭
This is magical!