Honda Civic Hybrid vs Toyota Corolla Hybrid vs Prius Comparison! / Efficient Face-off

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  • @genzigzag
    @genzigzag 14 днів тому +56

    The Corolla hybrid is definitely the budget friendly choice for a daily commuter, but I would choose the Civic, for the premium feel.

    • @wnenzallqe4747
      @wnenzallqe4747 14 днів тому

      Corolla hybrid is so good economy wise tho😢 civic hybrid is more for a sporty acceleration car. But I don’t think the Corolla hybrid is much underwhelming because it really ain’t slow

    • @johnkonde1975
      @johnkonde1975 14 днів тому +8

      Corolla is not as budget friendly as you think. Here in Texas, all new 2025 Corollas, gasoline and hybrid, come with 3-4k in pre-installed port and dealer accessories. Since Corollas are in extremely high demand and low supply, the dealer refuses to bring down the price so you end up paying over MSRP. In my area, the supply of Civics is more so you can negotiate a bigger discount on the Civics. So the price difference between the 2 is not as big as you think!

    • @wnenzallqe4747
      @wnenzallqe4747 14 днів тому +1

      @@johnkonde1975 I agree u can always just order one though. However if I don’t have the time for that, I wouldn’t choose either. Prob Mazda 3 is a better option, it’s a muncher nicer car than both

    • @ChiefYoshi
      @ChiefYoshi 14 днів тому +1

      @@johnkonde1975 I live in Texas and bought a '23 corolla hybrid brand new in 2023 because it was the cheap option. the honda dealer was asking $33k otd for a civic sport with 3k miles on the odo

    • @johnkonde1975
      @johnkonde1975 14 днів тому

      @ nice! how much did you pay for your 23 Corolla hybrid out the door?

  • @nyurkt24
    @nyurkt24 14 днів тому +8

    Great review,phenomenal job as always keep it going.
    The Civic costs as much as a Camry does these days…

    • @Realistick
      @Realistick  14 днів тому +3

      Thanks for watching! It does become a hard sell for people that don’t care if the car feels a little bigger. Hopefully Honda can make more of an LE-equivalent trim for the Hybrid someday.

    • @johnkonde1975
      @johnkonde1975 14 днів тому +1

      Only the Civic Hybrid costs as much as a Camry. The gasoline Civic LX and Civic Sport sedan is similar in price to the gasoline Corolla LE and SE trims

  • @0HOON0
    @0HOON0 14 днів тому +22

    The Civic Hybrid needs a DX model to match the Toyota LE trim.

  • @Michael-ur5qb
    @Michael-ur5qb 14 днів тому +6

    The Civic is doing a good job pulling double duty and taking on Corolla and Prius. I test drive the Corolla and Civic and it is almost like two separate classes because they are made to accomplish different things. Civic is more premium and sporty while Corolla is going for reliability and efficiency. You can’t go wrong with either.

  • @wackit6756
    @wackit6756 14 днів тому +5

    What a great review! Several reviewers cite the same decreased results on their highway mileage test while city mileage remains good. Common knowledge that Hybrids get less on highway mileage, but it’s odd that the Civic doesn’t achieve what their ratings are. Honda is always good reporting honest mileage numbers if not better. I wonder why the discrepancy? 💁‍♂️

    • @828Brian
      @828Brian 14 днів тому +2

      I wonder if the civic's lower mpg is due to testing in the winter/cold weather. Will be interesting to see if things change when summer gas and warmer temperatures return.

    • @Realistick
      @Realistick  14 днів тому +1

      I could be wrong but my guess is that the highway testing was done between 55-65 mph (at the most). More so than other hybrids, this really relies on the electric motor, which like other EVs, is not near as efficient at highway speeds as it is in town. They do have that lock up clutch for the engine to help drive the wheels but I suspect that is also operating at too high of an rpm at highway speed to be very efficient too. I don't see it improving dramatically in warmer weather but this is all just my personal speculation. Thanks for watching!

    • @dennyworthington6641
      @dennyworthington6641 14 днів тому +2

      My new Civic Hybrid Sport sedan has been getting around 36 mpg over the first 1,000 miles, mostly city driving in econ mode. It's winter here in Canada and I have winter tires on the vehicle, so that affects the efficiency to some extent. But the relatively poor mileage is a disappointment. Other than that, I love the car, it's an absolute joy to drive. It's easy to understand why many auto experts and enthusiasts have named it "best car of the year"!

    • @msmarshall854
      @msmarshall854 12 днів тому +1

      @@dennyworthington6641 Sir Worthington, I would get the Hybrid just for the power alone. The extra MPG is a bonus. 36 isn't disappointing for me at all.

  • @RS-qz6by
    @RS-qz6by 13 днів тому +3

    Thanks for the review! It's VERY simple to me which is the clear winner - and that's the 2025 Camry lol. Why would someone get a civic hybrid when the Camry is available? I got my 25 Camry LE with convenience package for 29k OTD! I mean, you just can't beat that value. And it's such a refined and smooth car. Love it.

    • @ChildishDicaprio
      @ChildishDicaprio 12 днів тому

      I personally want a car with foldable hatchback seats. So no sedans for me. Which is why I am leaning towards Civic Hyrid or Prius

  • @normaninsandiego7061
    @normaninsandiego7061 14 днів тому +3

    Very professional review Tyler, as always. I would go with the Corolla hybrid.

  • @Lobanium
    @Lobanium 14 днів тому +17

    No sense comparing the Civic to the Corolla anymore. The Civic is in another league now and feels much more premium. And Toyota really needs to do something about their boring design in all their cars.

    • @damilolaakanni
      @damilolaakanni 14 днів тому +1

      Toyota stopped making boring looking cars in 2011. Not sure what you mean by "do something about their boring design". Do you want their cars to be ugly like BMW?

    • @nerad1994
      @nerad1994 14 днів тому

      The Supra and 86 look great, but yeah a lot of their cars are visually boring

    • @YuriiKW-g2b
      @YuriiKW-g2b 13 днів тому +2

      @@damilolaakanni No, he means that Civic looks much better inside/interior. And that is true- Toyota is like a toy, while the Civic is like a car. But the most important thing here for the average joe is reliability and Toyota is on top of that.

    • @VenomTech72
      @VenomTech72 13 днів тому +1

      Civic all day

    • @selkirk154
      @selkirk154 13 днів тому +2

      i like toyota BECAUSE they make boring cars. There's nobody left that makes barebone bulletproof cars anymore besides them

  • @dippitydoinit
    @dippitydoinit 13 днів тому +2

    The Civic is just so much nicer looking in my opinion. That would be my choice and I'm a huge fan of Toyota.

  • @a32tl
    @a32tl 14 днів тому +3

    I love the Honda Civic Hybrid and would proudly own one in the Sport Touring trim. To me, it’s worth the extra money. To others, it isn’t but I really enjoy driving so I would pay up if I were in the market.

  • @lichenyi8236
    @lichenyi8236 14 днів тому +11

    My accord hybrid gets mid 40s mpg going 70+80mph, high 40s mpg going 70mph, and low 50s when I keep slightly below 70mph (at 50F~60F). I do not hypermile but did notice that the mpg significantly improved after 2/3k miles on the odometer. The civic hybrid should get even better mileage. Pardon the fanboy in me but the civic beats the corolla/prius (I dare say the camry) hands-down in terms of efficiency, handling, and the premium feel.

    • @Realistick
      @Realistick  14 днів тому +3

      Mine had 2,000 miles on it when I tested the efficiency (drove for 800) total. I'd love to try it again sometime because it did seem oddly bad.

    • @jeffjo8732
      @jeffjo8732 13 днів тому

      I have engineering papers for the 2014 and 2018 Accord. They use earlier versions of the same system, but the biggest changes have been improvements to the motors and engines.
      Back then, the motor and electronics were 96% efficient when cruising between about 45 and 62 mph. They were 95% efficient between 25 and 90 mph. So it is not the speed that makes the difference between your experience and EPA ratings.
      It is changing speeds on the highway. It sounds wrong, but you need to add more energy to the car to go from 50 to 51 mph, than you do to reach 10 mph from a stop. 60 to 65 mph is the same as 0 to 25 mph. Regen braking makes this not as bad as with a gas car, but changing speeds takes you out of both this motor-efficiency band and the engine-efficiency band.
      Motors compare to the transmission, not the engine.They convert electrical power to mechanical, while an engine extracts stored energy. Honda's strategy is to optimize engine efficiency before transmission efficiency, and Toyota's is the opposite. This is why the engine in a Toyota is bigger than Honda's, but Honda's motors are bigger than Toyota's. Changing speeds often, and drastically, on the highway stresses Hondas more.

    • @AlrienJ
      @AlrienJ 13 днів тому

      Is your drive on very flat terrain? This hybrid system loses a lot of efficiency at high speeds over hills vs flat terrain

    • @lichenyi8236
      @lichenyi8236 12 днів тому

      @@AlrienJ Yup, in the Deep South.

  • @FactsDontCareAboutFeelings-m6x
    @FactsDontCareAboutFeelings-m6x 14 днів тому +5

    Excellent comparison. 👍

  • @goni274
    @goni274 14 днів тому +2

    I’ve heard there are actual Toyota hybrids on some US lots.
    In Canada we wait a year to get one especially the RAV4 hybrid. It’ll be 2 years from today to get a 26 RAV4 for example. V
    I’m not waiting on Toyota pun intended!

  • @minnybiker4505
    @minnybiker4505 14 днів тому +3

    Huge Toyota fan... Current Gen Corolla interior bores me to tears even though it's perfect and does everything you need it to. New Prius is beautiful, but too low to the ground and a little tight in the driver's seat for me. Civic is a great option. Especially with the hatchback. However I'm hearing about issues with rattles which is my #1 most hated thing in a car. I'd probably go with Camry, but I don't want a sedan with a trunk. I ended up buying a Subaru Outback, and although it's not nearly as fuel efficient, it meets all my other criteria perfectly. Hopefully they make a hybrid version in the coming years that i can trade up for.

  • @DougMacniven
    @DougMacniven 9 днів тому

    Excellent review. 2025 Camry flattens this group, and if got a flat, it comes with a spare tire!

  • @ztekz
    @ztekz 13 днів тому +1

    Corolla H and Prius buyers are the value for money and budget oriented ones hence why they look for cheaper comparison vs civic hybrids are more for the enthusiasts and real drivers who don’t mind paying a bit more!

  • @Offensively-normal
    @Offensively-normal 14 днів тому +1

    Very nice comparison. Extremely through.
    The Civic is literally a class of it's own. I would contend a similarly priced Camry is a closer comparison. Wife has a 2022 Civic sport touring. She loves that car. I have the 2025 Camry SE. She hates it. I paid the same for both cars. Two & a half years apart. The Camry was discounted. Civic was not. It will be interesting to see what Toyota does redesigning the Corolla.

  • @Jamesmonroe1077
    @Jamesmonroe1077 14 днів тому +7

    I’m sure I’m not the average consumer, but the Corolla you showed in the thumbnail is the exact model, trim, and color I would want. Sure the civic is flashier and better equipped, but when you can find a corolla hybrid LE for $23k it’s not even a competition. I have always preferred Toyota to Honda, I have just had better luck with them, and when it finally comes time to upgrade my 03 Corolla, I know what my next car is going to be. Corolla FTW. Plus that 10 year 150k battery warranty is top tier.

    • @johnkonde1975
      @johnkonde1975 14 днів тому +2

      Who said it's 23k? Even in the video, he included destination which is mandatory and it came out to almost 25k for a Corolla Hybrid LE. Also many Corollas, hybrid and gasoline, have pre-installed accessories that jack up the price. Corollas are not as cheap as you think!

    • @JibWangson
      @JibWangson 14 днів тому

      Learn how to negotiate

    • @Jamesmonroe1077
      @Jamesmonroe1077 14 днів тому +1

      @@johnkonde1975 a dealer 20 minutes from me has 2 2025 LE hybrids for $23,900 🤷‍♂️

    • @johnkonde1975
      @johnkonde1975 14 днів тому

      @ that's their advertised price meant to lure in buyers, once ur at the dealership, the price will increase

  • @mrnarason
    @mrnarason 14 днів тому +31

    2025 Camry le is better than all the above

    • @Realistick
      @Realistick  14 днів тому +7

      🤐

    • @rayrayimpact
      @rayrayimpact 14 днів тому +11

      Yes, but also too big and too long.

    • @Hi-how-are-you-today.
      @Hi-how-are-you-today. 14 днів тому +3

      @@Realistickagreed

    • @Userxxx840
      @Userxxx840 14 днів тому

      The backseat and trunk space is huge. It’s awesome for road trips.

    • @Nicholas-x5p6q
      @Nicholas-x5p6q 14 днів тому +13

      Not really, it’s no fun to drive. The steering is numb unlike the Honda. Plus no heated seats, leather, sunroof, etc. for a similar price

  • @7728abbott
    @7728abbott 14 днів тому

    Great content and presentation.

  • @alengreen589
    @alengreen589 14 днів тому

    I think I would go 2025 Elantra Hybrid, it has also amazing mpg numbers, nice and new tec. features and enough room for 4 people inside. Thanks 😀

  • @TheFlyrodder68
    @TheFlyrodder68 14 днів тому

    I wish the Honda Civic would come with an AWD. Nice review! Thumbs up!

    • @Dark_Doom
      @Dark_Doom 14 днів тому

      Why you need AWD?

    • @jeffjo8732
      @jeffjo8732 14 днів тому +1

      Studies have shown that winter tires on a FWD perform better that the puny electric motor Toyota adds to the rear axle. They also don't depend on maintaining charge in the battery, and can be taken off in the spring, summer, and fall.

  • @BCowcorn
    @BCowcorn 14 днів тому

    I'm hoping Honda comes out with a non-sport Civic hybrid before I'm ready to buy my next car. Maybe that will get better highway mileage. And I could do without the simulated shifting too. I have a '15 non-hybrid and it's been running well (the last model year in a generation tends to do that - so far other than consumables and regular wear it's only had a

  • @mullen25
    @mullen25 10 днів тому

    you cannot find a ton of toyota hybrids in any model readily available at dealers in my area. i didn't want to wait weeks/months. i went with a civic and it's a fun car to drive.

  • @kevinfernando3167
    @kevinfernando3167 14 днів тому +2

    They need to get rid of that awful piano black crap on the dash it'll just create scuffs that won't come off. Should've used the same material they used for the center console shifter and supholder area.

  • @lk-gs9sc
    @lk-gs9sc 11 годин тому

    Seems like the Honda mpg epa numbers need to be reworked. I’ve seen multiple reviews from UA-camrs and it seems like it never get to that 50 mpg figure

  • @Walkertexasranger262
    @Walkertexasranger262 10 днів тому

    Only thing about hybrids that battery goes out cost to much to replace

    • @Realistick
      @Realistick  10 днів тому

      Sure, after 15 years, $3k to replace the battery is not fun, but for a lot of people, they get 250k miles out of them beforehand while getting 50 mpg!

  • @v_n_bot
    @v_n_bot 14 днів тому

    saw your vidoes and bought an Outback instead of Forester .... one of the biggest regrets in my life as a 2014 Forester owner --> 2023 Outback owner . Sold it now for a Wrangler !!!

    • @0HOON0
      @0HOON0 14 днів тому

      What were your regrets?

    • @Realistick
      @Realistick  14 днів тому +1

      Ouch, sorry to hear that, I like the Outback but it's an entirely different vehicle from a Wrangler. I hope you enjoy it!

  • @Unchainedmaple888
    @Unchainedmaple888 14 днів тому +2

    I would've chosen a Mazda 3 Hybrid over all of these choices but too bad Mazda won't make one

    • @bobdylan-t1r
      @bobdylan-t1r 10 днів тому

      I see new ones already leaking oil

  • @yamiibo
    @yamiibo 14 днів тому +2

    1:28 that feeling when knee surgery is tomorrow

    • @wholeNwon
      @wholeNwon 14 днів тому

      Good luck.

    • @jonathancountiss8940
      @jonathancountiss8940 12 днів тому +1

      My wife had knee replacement surgery on both knees within the last few years. The most important thing after each surgery was physical therapy. I can't stress that enough. She has no more pain in her knees and can walk without any assistance. Her quality of life is much improved.

  • @kevinfernando3167
    @kevinfernando3167 14 днів тому

    If honda made their LX model a hybrid it compete directly with the corolla LE hybrid and I'd get one.

  • @nickgee7291
    @nickgee7291 14 днів тому

    I like the exterior and interior of the corolla more, in that same color as well

  • @bernardogarcia355
    @bernardogarcia355 14 днів тому

    Just FYI, The Civic may be more expensive (car price) but Toyota has a finance plan to take into account (in my opinion not the best) offering 17% fixed interest rate (at least where I live) vs a 9.99% or less fixed interest rate that Honda offers, making the 3 options in the same price range or even Toyota more expensive depending on how much down payment you leave (unless you buy the car in one exhibition which is not the case for most of the people). Just if someone is considering buying a car, think of it, and make the decision that best suits your necessity, economy and preferences. (I think the 3 cars are really really good with high quality building, safety systems and good looking (Civic Sport Touring Hy, Corolla SE Hy, Prius Limited) and are worth the price)

  • @TheYoungMontana
    @TheYoungMontana 14 днів тому +1

    Prius for the looks.

  • @glovedcop69
    @glovedcop69 13 днів тому +1

    8:54 thats quicker than the SI... I'd still buy the corolla based on reliability toyota has been doing hybrids for almost 3 decades

  • @Civicowner2025
    @Civicowner2025 14 днів тому

    2025 Civic Sport here and I had to buy a lumbar support cushion. It is not road trip worthy; at least for me.

  • @Justin-es7bk
    @Justin-es7bk 13 днів тому

    Base model prius is the clear winner. Its a modern car and gets the mpg which is why you buy a hybrid in the first place.

  • @sorinpirtea2306
    @sorinpirtea2306 День тому

    The Toyota Camry in basic trim is a better equipped car than the Honda Civic in top trim.

  • @outcast3397
    @outcast3397 14 днів тому +1

    Why not pay half the price and buy a Mitsubishi Mirage? i mean really... the differance is minimal.

  • @LoveLikeaHurricane
    @LoveLikeaHurricane 14 днів тому +1

    How do you maintain /service the battery in Honda?

    • @tacitteyo
      @tacitteyo 14 днів тому +1

      It's under the rear seat like the Toyota vehicles, so servicing should be comparable.

    • @LoveLikeaHurricane
      @LoveLikeaHurricane 14 днів тому

      @ I hear no filter like Toyota

  • @Sam-tx7le
    @Sam-tx7le 14 днів тому

    Would you take a camry le/se or the civic hybrid (either trim)? The civic driving dynamics and speed are appealing but not sure if there is enough difference vs the camry that it outweighs more comfort and reliability

    • @Realistick
      @Realistick  14 днів тому

      Camry! The main reason for me is that it's much more comfortable when you consider the seats, and the highway fuel mileage is superior too.

    • @Sam-tx7le
      @Sam-tx7le 13 днів тому

      @ interesting, thanks!!

  • @annawong1305
    @annawong1305 13 днів тому

    I wish these cars were cheaper in the UK as they are in the US. 😢

  • @EvilSpoonman
    @EvilSpoonman 14 днів тому

    You say that you feel comfortable recommending the Civic Hybrid despite it being too new for good reliability information on the powertrain. I disagree. After the widespread 1.5L Earth Dreams engine issues, also the 3.5L V6 issues. I’m not willing to take it on faith that Honda can produce a reliable powertrain. This is also a new type of powertrain for them, further increasing the probability of issues.
    The Corolla has a proven powertrain with lots of years and miles to back it up.
    If your priority is reliability the Corolla is the clear choice, and I don’t think that the decision is very close.

  • @hyrenaj2888
    @hyrenaj2888 14 днів тому

    The problem with the Civic hybrid is that it starts at $5,000 more than the Corolla, and even more than the Prius/Camry.

  • @naveenthemachine
    @naveenthemachine 14 днів тому +5

    Is that even a question? Civic all day long
    The corolla and Prius have ostensibly been discontinued due to its inability to compete. They’re too compromised whereas there’s none in the civic

    • @Realistick
      @Realistick  14 днів тому +1

      The Corolla still manages to sell the same numbers as the Civic🫨

    • @naveenthemachine
      @naveenthemachine 14 днів тому

      @ but the corollas worse in every way and it’s also overpriced

    • @naveenthemachine
      @naveenthemachine 14 днів тому +1

      @ but the accords faster and rides and drives better and it’s quieter than the Prius ever could

  • @oligarchy-usa
    @oligarchy-usa 14 днів тому +2

    The Corolla hybrid looks cheap & cut-rate, like it should be priced $10K+ less than what it is for MSRP.

  • @jeretso
    @jeretso 14 днів тому +3

    Civic hitting a pothole was loud and punishing. The Civic rims are too big and bad for aerodynamics. Camry is too long. If you have the extra $5,000 Get the Prius or Civic Hatch.

  • @michaelwarner2434
    @michaelwarner2434 11 днів тому

    I love Toyotas but the Civic is well worth the extra price.

  • @mnwolves180
    @mnwolves180 14 днів тому +1

    Mazda 3 over both🤷

  • @jeanvaljean1475
    @jeanvaljean1475 13 днів тому

    Corolla is ideal for taxi or delivery. You don’t buy a hybrid for better performance. There’s type r or bmw for that.

  • @barron204
    @barron204 14 днів тому +2

    In my country the Civic hybrid is the same price as a Toyota Rav4 Limited (mid) AWD or Hilux hybrid 4x4 SR5 (mid). Nearly $20k more than a base Corolla hybrid.

  • @damonroger3184
    @damonroger3184 14 днів тому

    Those new Priuses are so sexy

  • @bruford911
    @bruford911 7 днів тому

    Admitted Honda bias…the Corolla design looks like a 15 year old car with 195k miles on it. Utility only. Not attractive for highway.

  • @VenomTech72
    @VenomTech72 13 днів тому

    Civic all day

  • @robme3660
    @robme3660 14 днів тому +10

    Honda is having too many issues with the civic platform (e.g., recalls, rattles, annoying warning messages, poor connectivity, steering complaints). I'd just take the slower and less impressive Rolla for a stress free ownership experience.

    • @Realistick
      @Realistick  14 днів тому +8

      As someone who owns a corolla (GR), it rattles like a children’s toy too at times😂 but I think I’m still with you. If I bought a compact as a daily, the efficiency, price and comfort are more important to me.

    • @Riley_1955
      @Riley_1955 14 днів тому +2

      I have had zero issues with my 2023 Corolla hybrid LE AWD ..... The only rattle is one time the passenger seat belt connector was hitting against the door jam ....Lol .... Seriously though it has been one great little sedan that I paid $29,000 OTD.

    • @jeretso
      @jeretso 14 днів тому

      When they introduced the Corolla Hybrid I dont remember that many problems? Honda QA sounds weak like not testing potholes. I do prefer the Civic Hatch If I can avoid potholes. Maybe I will learn from the wise Camry LE and buy smaller aftmarket rims.

  • @sophaman9193
    @sophaman9193 14 днів тому

    For me I'm not going to pay the civic hybrid almost the same price as the camry are you kidding me the camry hybrid is bigger car more HP and toyota hybrid technology more reliable than Honda hybrid technology Corolla hybrid is much cheaper 5000 $ cheaper i will take Corolla any day yes the civic hybrid is faster because the the civic hybrid bigger engine and more HP but the Corolla hybrid not that slow will see the new Corolla redesign is coming in 2026 or 2027

  • @jeffjo8732
    @jeffjo8732 14 днів тому +1

    0:21 "There's no denying that the new Civic has more going for it. But it also asks for more money." You are not taking into account three factors: Two are (1) _There_ _is _no_ "base" Civic hybrid and (2) Honda does not use optional packages. The closest comparison is the Corolla SE, MSRP $27,400 needs its premium package, raising that to $29,410, to compare to the Civic SPORT, $28,950. (Prices from company websites today.)
    0:32 "It's competing against larger cars for that kind of cash." That's the third factor. It *_IS_* that larger car. It has 10% more passenger volume than a Corolla, and comes within less than 1 cubic foot of the Camry. Adding in all of the more premium materials you point out later, the Civic is the better deal by far. So if you compare it to Camry SE, the Civic handily wins every aspect except feature selections.
    2:19 "Even if you spend this much money you still get the cheapest infotainment that Honda has to offer." Nope. It's upgraded from the base LX, but is not the Bose system.
    8:02 "The end result is a car that feels much more like an electric vehicle." It is an EV. Not a "battery" EV, like a Tesla, but a "battery and generator" EV.

    • @Realistick
      @Realistick  14 днів тому

      It seems you need to listen more before typing! I mentioned the feature-differences right after pointing out the 5k price difference. Btw, you're leaving out the destination cost on the Civic Sport hybrid sedan ($30k) and the XLE is the better deal anyway.
      The civic, dimensionally, is still in-line with most compacts, inside and out (excluding the trunk). You need to drive the new Camry if you think the Civic is better in every way but features.
      I was not talking about the sound system when I said that at 2:19.
      The line "the end result is that the car feels more like an ev" came right after I explained how the powertrain works😂

    • @jeffjo8732
      @jeffjo8732 14 днів тому

      @@Realistick "I mentioned the feature-differences right after pointing out the 5k price difference." But you didn't point out how much $$$ the packages add.
      "Btw, you're leaving out the destination cost on the Civic Sport hybrid sedan ($30k)." And it was unclear to me whether you included it, even though you claimed you did.
      As of today, the Honda website says the Sport Hybrid has an MSRP of $28,950. The destination & Handling cost is $1,150, making $30,100. At 0:30 you said $28,845 which sounds more like the MSRP. I know things change over time, which is why I cite where and when I get prices.
      From Toyota's site, the Corolla SE hybrid is $26,255+$1,135=$27,400. So the destination charge difference ($15) is insignificant, which is why I just use MSRP. But it does look like I included D&H in one but not the other - my bad. (At 1:05 you cite $27,200, which does seem to include D&H but isn't current). This is a $2,700 difference - your $5K claim is compared to the LE. Apples to oranges.
      AND, this difference leaves out the $2,010 package needed to get features that are included in the Civic's MSRP. We are down to less than a $700 difference, for a much larger, and more premium, car. And the reason I commented here is that the $5K claim misrepresents the costs.
      "And the XLE is the better deal anyway." And starts almost $2,000 higher.
      "The civic, dimensionally, is still in-line with most compacts, inside and out (excluding the trunk)." No, it isn't. I rounded down to claim that 10% difference. The Civic is actually 11% bigger inside.
      At 99 ft^3 passenger volume, and 114 ft^3 total, the EPA rates it as a midsize car (the Camry has 100 and 115). Honda _targets_ the compact market by not including as many features as the Accord or Camry would have.
      The Corolla has 89 and 102, making it an EPA compact. The Prius has 91 and 115. Did you know that the reason it is a hatchback is not because of the market demand, it is because the EPA has no category for hatches? So it is rated with sedans, as a midsize car? But functionally, it really is a compact. The Civic hatch, at 99 and 123, is an EPA large car, functionally a midsize, and marketed as a compact. This is consistent across the lines: The Camry is midsize, and the Accord is large.
      "You need to drive the new Camry if you think the Civic is better in every way but features." Maybe. You need to compare them honestly - the Civic is supposed (I haven't tested) to be quicker and have better handling, which is what I meant. It has a more sporty ride, so not as luxurious. But that is a tradeoff, not a superiority either way.
      "I was not talking about the sound system when I said that at 2:19." Okay, I interpreted it to specifically. But the sound is part of the infotainment system, and it is not the cheapest. And I don't think the non-sound parts are inferior in any way, the only part that is cheaper is the size of the screen.
      "The line 'the end result is that the car feels more like an EV' came right after I explained how the powertrain works." And I wanted to emphasize that it *_IS_* an EV. That there are two definitions for "EV" that get used, and one is wrong. Most electric advocates think it means a car that stops at a charging station instead of a gas station. That's a plug-in car, or *_Battery_* EV. It actually means a car that is driven by an electric motor, which is exactly what you described.

    • @Realistick
      @Realistick  13 днів тому

      @@jeffjo8732 It's unclear that I included destination in the graphic that says "MSRP W/ Dest." in large letters?🥸I don't have the time to address all of those things and I don't think it matters what I say anyway. Have a nice day 🤟

    • @jeffjo8732
      @jeffjo8732 13 днів тому

      @@Realistick It was unclear since the price you said was MSRP+D&H was actually $45 less than the current MSRP alone.

    • @Realistick
      @Realistick  13 днів тому

      @@jeffjo8732 You're still misquoting the graphic🥳it says $29,845 for the base. I made the graphic a month ago or so and sometimes they adjust the price a little. (currently 30,100). But sometimes typos can happen too so I don't mind fact checks but if it's off by 200-300, it's usually just a little outdated and not worth your time.

  • @laurenappa7233
    @laurenappa7233 14 днів тому +2

    There’s something very off about the new Civic design. It’s hard to pinpoint exactly what makes it so awkward looking to my eye but I think the proportions are an issue. It’s like they took the Accord and shrunk it but forgot to adjust the spacing on the headlights and reduce the size of the taillights. Speaking of, sorry Honda but those taillights are ugly and at this price point they should be all LED. The Corolla on the other hand looks great from every angle IMHO.

  • @domdrty
    @domdrty 14 днів тому

    My daughter has the corrolla. The backseat is terrible if you have passengers. The civic is worlds nicer, but you will pay more.

  • @selika916
    @selika916 14 днів тому +1

    Toyota all the way. Honda are boo boo

  • @mariner3485
    @mariner3485 14 днів тому

    The video got better after you brought in the Prius, not because I want a Prius but because it had been an Apples to Oranges comparison (Corolla to Civic) and suddenly became a 'Shades of Toyota Hybridization' vs Civic. It left me wanting more info on other Hybrids.
    So: IF you want a 2nd vehicle to go with your Miata, and you want a Hybrid, what would YOU get??? (one for you and your roommate/partner/...)
    Budget aside, take us on this Quest!
    It is fair to compare based on price, but features, mpg's, drivability/fun-factor & how hwy speed impacts economy, style, warrantee, etc., ALL are part of the mix.
    Looking forward to your reviews of other Hybrids: Honda CRV, Mazda CX-50, etc... What about Ford/Chevy/GM ? Subaru Crosstrek and Forester may get my vote eventually.
    Shopping could be based on price or vehicle class.
    I would not be surprised if I buy a non-plugin Hybrid in the next few years: Manufacturer's Warrantee will be one of my considerations.
    I think this is an interesting Hybrid 'Rabbit Hole' to explore.

    • @Realistick
      @Realistick  14 днів тому +1

      If I don't end up getting another sporty car (like a Civic SI or another GR Corolla) as a daily in the next few years, I'll probably get a hybrid so I'll try to make content around that in due time!
      Actually filming with a CX-50 hybrid this week and I just got access to two more brands for press cars (VW, Kia). Hopefully Ford will answer soon too. Forester Hybrid in April/May from what I have heard. Lots of options are popping up in the hybrid space so we'll have a lot of content like that this year along with Miata stuff too!

  • @markkrispin6944
    @markkrispin6944 14 днів тому +2

    Honda is overpriced.