Roland V-Drums Acoustic Design VAD 506 electronic drum kit with TD-27 unboxing & playing
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- Опубліковано 14 січ 2020
- drumt.ec/roland-vad-506
Good news! It's winter NAMM time in LA, and Roland is launching a bunch of promising new electronic drum products...
We start off our Roland video series with the new Roland VAD 506 electronic drum kit, that features real acoustic shell sizes (10,12,14,20) to begin with. The new PDA-100, PDA-120 and PDA-140F tom pads are equipped with a brand new 3 sensor trigger system, that delivers an authetic feel without any "hot spotting" in the center of the head.
The VAD506 kit comes with the new TD-27 sound module, that combines sounds/features of the TD-17 and TD-50. It fills the gap between both models and replaces its predecessor the TD-25 as the new Roland "middle class" sound module.
The TD-27 is compatible with Roland´s digital pads, so the new VAD kits are equipped with a CY-18DR digital ride, a PD-140DS digital snare, as well as two brand new non-digital e-cymbal models in 14" & 16" inch size (CY-14C-T and CY-16R-T).
You can find all of the components as well as the complete kit in our online shop:
www.drum-tec.com/sets/roland
www.drum-tec.com/modules
www.drum-tec.com/cymbals
www.drum-tec.com/pads
Please feel free to leave a comment or ask any question you might have. You can also get in touch with our service team directly through info@drum-tec.de
Video was shot @ drum-tec West / Spytunes Recording Studio, Mainz. Drumming & production by www.ralfschumacher.eu
#rolandvad #edrums #drumtec
Who cares about the drums? This drummer is amazing.
Thank you Abraham :) you can find more drumming/music on my personal channel over here if you like:
ua-cam.com/users/digitaldrumming
Kind regards!
Yup. No interest in e-drums but I’m sitting through this video just to hear the chops!
@@SRplaysdrums Thank you so much! :)
I agree!!
drumtecTV do you think this model is good for beginners? What’s your opinion for the Alesis drums?
I came here cause I was interested in bying this drum kit, now I am insterested in buying the drummer. Blown away by your playing man, excellent chops!
Thank you very much! You can find more drumming/music on my personal channel over here:
ua-cam.com/users/digitaldrumming
You'llalso find more info on www.ralfschumacher.eu if you like, kind regards!
I just joined a band playing drums and I’m loving it. I can keep a beat and play basic fills with dynamics and some articulations. I realise I have a lot to learn and then I watch this guy and I just don’t know why I bother!
You bother because it's a blast. Keep pounding.
Finally an electronic drum that looks great on stage
Interesting, that Roland (after MANY years) finally realize that customers prefer the look and feel from acoustic. They even did thinner cymbals. Best thing is, this is actually a contending kit - in comparison to ATV & Pearl, and not 2000% overpriced product. Good for Roland, this should bring som real competition to the e-drum market. Gotta say, I'm actually (first time) impressed by Roland. :)
Nope. If I'm playing anywhere besides a larger-stage club or theater, I want the most minimalist set possible, 8 inch drums all around and just a half-dozen great sounding kits. The company that invents the collapsible stand and mount setup, where everything folds up into a flat package that can be carried in and out with one hand (without needing to run the wires every time) will own the wedding, dinner club, and Knights of Columbus circuit.
As soon as you think you got the audience is foooled that the drums aren’t electric, the black rubber cymbals say otherwise. The problem with electrics is the bouncy mesh heads , this new design may be better less bouncy.
Are you impressed by the sound as well? Because to me it sounds horrible.
Jeroen De Cloe Nah, not really. But in all fairness I've never been a fan of the e-drums module-sounds from the modules I've heard. I ALWAYS track, and use drum-software. However, my e-drums needs are 100% related to studio-work, for that reason I couldn't care less about the module-sounds. Latency, playability, reliability, and hardware sizes are all that matters to me, personally.
I love the vad506
Fantastic drumming!. I am very impressed with the Roland VAD kits. Bravo man you are not only talented you are a skilled in the arts of music mastery. Love it.
Thank you very much for your kind feedback Scott! Have you also checked out the drum-tec Silent Studio Sessions yet:
ua-cam.com/play/PLfdIgOnHCc5piPaMAnQ1mzLKPpWdzKVuq.html
Kind regards!
Woah! This is kinda new level!
How big is the Matt? Is it a tdm 10?
No, it's a TDM-20:
www.drum-tec.com/roland-tdm-20-large-sound-absorbing-drum-carpet?number=1001397
Kind regards!
Loved wow , the audience must use these headphones to enjoy the beautiful sound of the drum🤩
Finally roland have my interest after I converted an acoustic kit. The drumming here is top class too. Great demo 👌
Thank you very much David! :)
Such a fabulous drummer.
Thank you very much! You can find more drumming / music / sound demo videos on my private channel digitaldrumming too if you like:
www.youtube.com/@digitaldrumming
Kind regards!
amazing drumming wow
Yes, Ralf did great in this one (to be honest, he always does)!
Amazing drummer
Thank you very much! :)
Every year it does not matter what other companies software and electronic alike come out with Roland will still be victorious. Roland just has the best track record. They just know exactly where to place themselves on the electronic drum market. Like or hate them Roland always wins!
Well, Roland has been the world´s market leader when it comes to electronic drums :) no other company comes close. Kind regards!
Why is it so fun looking at things I want but won’t have in a million years?
;-D
Awesome drummer !!
Thank you very much! :)
Honestly, the kit looks really good. If there was one thing I would change it would be the hi-hat sounds within the module. They seem a little bit weak and crunchy put the rest of the kit sounds and looks the part. It is also at a fairly reasonable price, especially for Roland.
You make the kit what it is!!!!
Coming a long way.
The school where I teach recently bought The TD17Kv and it was good but then i bought the Drumtec sample pack! It's really changed the kit. It feels more responsive and acoustic sounding. The Gretsch, Yamaha and so or kits are my favorite ;) a great kit for the price. I was considering buying one myself but now this is an option, I may have to start saving up. Great drumming as always. Lg aus NRW
Dankeschön! :)
Dude, I like your drumming
Ton jeux est juste magnifique !!
i predicted this module,not this kit though. This is the reason i never pulled the trigger on the td-17 i was waiting to see if this was coming. That said i never saw the shells coming that 1 shocked me. Roland you have done it again.
td-27 is double the cost of td-17 so there is no direct comparison.
@@silotx your right the td-27 is not the td-17 its the successor to the td-25 and the middle ground module ,i liked the td-17 but i just knew there would be a new middle module this year so i waited rather than just settle for the 17 or 25,the 27 is the module i've been waiting for roland to make since the td-17 came out and now its finally here
Looks & sound good, but I’m old school I still love the sound & feel real wood & brass
I didn’t know this was a thing! I still have my Roland td10 from 2000
It still works?
I always say "Roland V-Drums are like Lamborghini and Ferraris to drummers. Expensive as hell, but awesome to play!"
Excellent
Very good look
Ralf! Great demo. As expected from drum-tec.
Thank you! :)
great, now that I bought td 17... thanks Roland
It´s never too late for a module upgrade ;-D kind regards!
Very very good drummer in all disciplines. Very rudimental. Fantastic foot hand work trigger drums augment and amplify the crispness of his playing but geez world class groves, runs centered tempos even not coming back to “ one”. I heard him with a bass player on another video extremely solid player!
Thank you so much Rodney :) you can find more music/drumming on my personal channel digitaldrumming here on UA-cam if you like. Kind regards!
Solid drumming...!!!
Thanks!
Memang kena ada bakat main ni... awak seorang yg hebat...
Such a talent... you are great
Thank you very much! :)
Awesome. In 2020, Roland comes up with an idea drum-tec already offered more than 10 years ago. And the module sounds are still the same: an overprocessed kick drum and snare next to toms that still sound like plastic cans.
I agree Mike. Roland is late in the game with real sizes, overpriced, and sounds terrible still. I love the Pearl Mimic Pro but I wish companies would offer lower priced modules that have sounds like Steven Slate or Superior Drummer in them and have real sized kits that don’t require a 5-7 year loan. Why can’t they have a 4pc jazz kit for example with a basic module with select Superior drummers sound pack for around $1000 and have expansion packs going up from there? The ability to add larger sizes and upgrade to a bigger module with more inputs. That’s what is missing.
Mike Luke the other thing I don’t like with Roland digital snare is no snare throw off. It’s USB, they can and should have built it in for players to use in real time.
Yes !! This is what i hoped from Roland : an electronic drumkit sized like an acoustic ! The choise between the ATV adrums and this Roland will be difficult. I think the technology with 3 cones triggering in the shells are practically the same...
There are many great options now - this new Roland kit, ATV, Pearl e/Merge, Gewa, Strike Pro SE...
@@markomarkovic5729 I wouldn't call the eMerge a great option.
The ATV build quality is better though: Metal inserts and laqued shells vs plastic inserts with wrapped shells. Also the ATV modules sound better.
@@stefanosgeorgiou3489 Have you tried e/Merge? Those pads look interesting, though today everyone boasts that their pads have an authentic feel. Gewa is an interesting concept, the module has great potential, there are many great options (and few buttons more! 😁) that Mimic doesn't have, but on the other hand, Mimic sounds are VST. This is also the biggest drawback of the new Roland kits - they are not compatible with the Mimic, but on the other hand, this VAD series is a much better choice than the TD-50.
@@markomarkovic5729 I tried the eMerge in a music store. Had a very weird feeling playing it like something was off, bad sounds, not enough kits...I wasn't impressed given its price. Dead on arrival IMO.
Thanks Ralf!! Great new kit! Great playing as usual...You could play the phone book (if there were anymore) and make it sound good!
Thank you so much Ken! :)
Fantastic as always Mr Ralf :-)
Thank youuuu! :)
3 point trigger on the floor tom? 16 inch ride? Damn, roland i'm impressed. For roland to respond like this to ATV's lineup must mean they're making enough of a dent in the edrum world to impact the giant himself. I've been holding off from buying an adrums set and i'm glad i did.. it's slightly more expensive but has the better snare and ride... hmmm decisions decisions...
18 inch ride
Please do a video of the VAD306 set! Would love to see how it can be expanded with upgrades and splitters
Hi, I´d love to! But until now, no VAD kits are available in europe, for the release I only got the 503 / 506 kit for one day. Kind regards!
yes!!
Nice looking Kit (inspired by ATV I think :-) ) but still strange harsh sounds and machinegunning on Toms :(. Roland it's 2020!!!
It's not inspired the founder of ATV was the founder of V-drums. It is a total rip off at a higher price. People are buying this for the logo.
Joshua Ferry definitely not for the sound😂
@@MarkuzP66 Mark every single Roland, Alesis, Pearl or any module manufacture has "crap machine gun sound." Hell on the 27 I have seen comments the toms sound like machine guns. Because you can't crap on the digital snare. Or horrid sound in general from everything. I hear this every time. I bought a TD-17 to run with SD3. Worked great. Did it respond like just the sounds from the module? No... Did SD3 sound better? Yes it did. Then companies like V-Expressions and Drum-Tec sat down and did some tuning. Honestly the TD-27 is going to be monster module that the pro's will tune better than Roland did. They will add samples and it will sound great. It will respond great. We hear this same thing every time. Sounds terrible... Look at the Alesis pro module... Now deemed as the best sounding module on the market. But when it came out it's sound was hacked on time and time again. A few patches later they hero's. I promise your the audience has no clue what you are even playing, with some tweaking it will be right there... Don't believe me? Heard of the late great Neil Peart? He made the news this week. He was huge Roland fan and arguably the best drummer on earth... The sounds will be fine. Please don't take this as an attack. I get tired of acoustic purists telling many of us use your Pearl Masters sounds better. Not all of us can do that. E-Drums are progressing and the future. Just like that time Dillon went "Electric".
Joshua Ferry Sorry, I don‘t agree! I had nearly every drum module from Roland TD12,TD30,TD50 and a 2Box and now I have a mimic Pro and totally satisfied with the sound. Roland has very good hardware and nice electronic sounds but when it comes to acoustic samples it is terrible! The sample just too bad in resolution and no real multilayering with round robin! The result is machinegunning and harsh sounding Snares and Toms. SD3 (I have it too) is total different approach! You can compare this with the mimicPro. Both are running soundlibraries. Roland is not really innovative! The new VAD pads are ATV Copies and the soundmodules are stuck in the 90th. 2Box does better. Alesis does better and thats what I meant!
For the price, get the sunhouse triggers and a laptop.
Geil! Ich fang dann mal zum Sparen an :-)
Oder doch drum-tec diabolo/pro series? ;)
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Viele Grüße!
@@drumtecTV Auch super, jedoch finde ich die Kessel- und Cymbalgrößen beim 506 um den Preis toll!
Essa daria pra usar em igreja, alguns kits são perfeitos pra gravar em estúdio e em shows ao vivo! Mt top! Parabéns Roland!
Have you checked out the drum-tec diabolo series electronic drums yet? :)
ua-cam.com/video/mO1ZXei-k6Y/v-deo.html
Kind regards!
Conhece a EFnote?
@@jnagime tem uma sonzera top tambem, andei vendo alguns videos do Efnote 3. pena que é caro para caramba
@@lucasrizzomusic pois eh na minha opinião EFnote 5 $2.800 dólares bate uma Roland de $4.999 dólares fácil fácil,Roland está atrasada em pratos e chimbal por isso EFnote sai na frente,ágora q a Roland fez um chimbal bom VH14 mas custa $1.500 dólares só o chimbal.
@@jnagime compra só um módulo, e vai comprando aos poucos uns pads da Staff Drum e da Royalty Hibrid, e umas ferragens de bateria pra poder adaptar rsrsrs
Looks fantastic! Glad they finally put a set like this out. More competition = lower priced eventually. I can’t imagine spending $6500 Euros on eDrums. My strike pro was 1/4 of the price. I’d keep the strike but get ATV hi hats or vh-13’s and call it a day. I don’t know why after so long Roland still can’t make good tom sounds.
I just purchased a VAD506 this week. I was going originally with the new VAD706 but at the steep price of $8,000 the more I looked at the 506 it just made more sense for me. I got it new in the box for $4200 and I am planning on using superior drummer for the sounds anyway. The only thing I may upgrade once it’s available is the new digital hi-hats which are about $800. I think the 506 is overall a way better value than the 706.
Which digital hi-hats are these that are selling for $800?
5:31 to 5:58 - My favorite kit
Wow!!
Great look and great sound...This is it...! At last...!
Any plans to sell the pads individually? I was looking at the Drumtec Pro Custom Series to update the look of my kit comprised of a KD-180 and the TD-50 Digital Pack on a TD-30 drum rack. Any comparisons between the new Roland Toms and the Pro Custom Series?
It will take some months until the VAD kits are available here in Europe, I am pretty sure that there will be separate pads from drum-tec then. You can get in touch through info@drum-tec.de for more specific info & an individual quote on a custom kit configuration if you like. Kind regards!
Can't believe it took them this long to release something like this but it's good as there is great choice and competition from places like drumtec!
Is the 3 piezo system used in the snare and toms?
Yes the new 3-sensor system is used in the tom pads. The Snare is the PD-140DS (digital connection):
www.drum-tec.com/roland-pd-140ds
Kind regards!
The kit itself looks good, I personally would not use the TD-27 module but the TD-50 module for the kit. I would include the TD-30 module, but I don’t think the TD-30’s module has digital inputs.
Fantastic playing! What kind of headphones are you using in the video? I want to buy this kit but want some nice headphones for while I’m playing.
Thank you very much Tyler! I was using the Roland RH-300V headphone:
www.drum-tec.com/roland-rh-300v-v-drums-headphones
Did you know you get the TD-27 Live Sound Edition sound upgrade free of charge, if you buy your module/kit from drum-tec:
ua-cam.com/video/mO1ZXei-k6Y/v-deo.html
Feel free to get in touch through service@drum-tec.de for any further questions and/or an individual quote on any custom kit configuration incl. international shipping if you like. Kind regards!
This dude is fluidity personified
Thank you very much Hunter! :)
You should do drum covers, you're a great drummer!
Thank you very much, I actually am a drummer by profession :) www.ralfschumacher.eu
@@drumtecTV nice!!
Incredible vidéo! This kit sounds Amazing and the drummer is really good! Could you give me the settings that was use in the module to obtain this sensibility? Because I have the same drums but I don't arrived to obtain the same result, I don't know how use the settings to obtain a realistic sensation of an acoustic drum 😕
Thank you very much Maxime, all settings were standard/stock settings, I may have adjusted the sensitivity settings to my individual preference a little, that's all. If you are looking for sound upgrades for your TD-27 module, you can check out the drum-tec Sound Editions if you like:
ua-cam.com/video/yO0-3XzK-Wg/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/7q8EytnUGwk/v-deo.html
Kind regards!
Can't wait to get my hands on this. I got a question though. Is it possible to add a drum rack to this instead of the stands?
Sure, you can actually get any custom kit configuration from www.drum-tec.com, you might also wanna check out the 100% Roland compatible drum-tec diabolo or Jam 3 pads.
Especially the Real Feel bass drums make a huge difference in terms of playing feel & they are actually a lot more silent than the VAD bass drums too:
ua-cam.com/video/J9Ig12wXESQ/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/mO1ZXei-k6Y/v-deo.html&start_radio=1
ua-cam.com/video/7q8EytnUGwk/v-deo.html
Feel free to get in touch through experts@drum-tec.de for further info / assistance at any time. Kind regards!
In the future I would need mor cymbals and another floor to. 14” is fine I make it sound like a 36” orchestral bass drum if I want.love the kit love digital everything
Hey Greg, the single components of the VAD kist will be available in the future too. Kind regards!
Nice kit, and yes I agree with people the sound quality sucks, but remember that you have an Eq on the module and you can adjust it, also Roland allows you to EQ every instrument individually, so you can make it sound realistic almost, definitely will be looking at this peace
Jaime Gordillo EQ does not improve realism. You would have to look into Superior Drummer 3.
Thanks for the video. I wonder with the snake for the toms if it's possible to connect to the Mimic Pro?...
The Mimic Pro module needs separate trigger cables just like the TD-50 module. It´s DB25 outputs are for direct out audio output, not for trigger input. Kind regards!
Great playing my dude! Very nice kit but Id rather save money, buy the drumtec Jam or Diablo kits and trigger SD3 with it.
Thank you Chris, yes that would be a super setup! The TD-27 is interesting as module for using midi out, it has positional sensing, is compatible with the Roland digital pads (Ride!) and has quite some more trigger inputs than a TD-17. So onboard sounds apart, this is the best bang-for-the-buck high end trigger/sound module you can get for using external samples, without having to purchase a TD-50 :) Kind regards!
Very nice entry level kit
Erm, this costs like $5000
Lol🤦🏿♂️
@@stefanosgeorgiou3489 Just kidding ofc :-)
I wish these edrum reviews would also include the sound the kit makes without the module, i.e. how it sounds acoustically to others in the room/house
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Kind regards
This drummer is insane
Thank you Gustav! :)
This is what I call a drummer. 🥁🥁🥁
I would consider using this live. I hope I could turn up the closed hi hat and the ride bell. Some nice kit sounds, some crap.
Hi, you can edit every single trigger zone & sound individually! Kind regards
That's insane how far ele tric has come. The heads still need sum work though, it doesn't feel the same, especially kick pads. Now if roland could take a page from aleises and make a line that's big shelled drums that doesn't cost 5k.
This 506 kit is crazy durable. Jay Weinberg (drummer for slipknot, son of the famous Max Weingberg) uses this kit for practice and covers. He did a cover of a Code Orange track on his channel about 3 months ago using this kit that'll blow your mind! He brutally abuses this kit!
We are thinking about buying a set for our church. Since you were able to get hands on both, which would you buy regardless of price? Roland 506 or Pearl eMerge?
Thanks
Hi, the Pearl eMerge has much louder pads, I could imagine that might play an important role. Also the VAD bass drums are fairly loud (they have the same pad as the KD-A22 / KD-10), there are more silent solutions such as the drum-tec Real Feel bass drums:
ua-cam.com/video/rQcpY2VAuro/v-deo.html
All drum-tec pads are 100% Roland compatible & have a super authentic playing feel & rebound. You can check out the drum-tec diabolo or pro series in various setups here:
ua-cam.com/play/PLfdIgOnHCc5rF-i5ONUuDLkeYmEVZg726.html
ua-cam.com/play/PLfdIgOnHCc5qEcO6Vkc-KGwqQr-toxrNt.html
www.drum-tec.com/pads
Please get in touch through info@drum-tec.de for any further questions or an individual quote on a custom kit configuration incl. international shipping! Kind regards
I’ve got a great question. If I’m using the digital snare input, can I plug a conventional electronic snare in the designated output at the same time?
Hey Greg, no the non-digital snare input is inactive if there´s a digital Snare pad connected, same for the ride. (and same for the TD-50 module). Kind regards!
O my!!!
I’m in love with this drumset☹️ I want one so bad😭😭😭😭
I like the kit would be great to add a 8'' Drumtec tom and another floor tom.
As soon as the VAD kits are available, it will be possible to get any custom kit configuration from drum-tec :) Kind regards!
Tbh... i‘m really diggin the Sounds 🤷🏻♂️
I‘ve been playing Drums since 11 Years now (switched a lot between acoustic and electric) and i can say, that the Audience doesn‘t really care about the synthetic Sounds... i would even say it‘s the opposite... i‘ve got compliments about the TD17 sounds and lot‘s of People said, that the Sounds are better than actual Acoustic Drums 🤷🏻♂️
The only people that care are mostly other drummers... and drummers are ruthless. haha
3:46 🔥
Your drumming is always incredible :-). One thing I do not understand is why Roland isn't just working together with Addictive Drums or Superior Drummer 3 to upgrade their samples. Then they would be even more Incredible... :)
Thank you very much! Well, we´ll never know...maybe one day :) kind regards!
Nice looking kit. But let's not forget the sounds we are hearing are direct from the module. But for gigging with this kit you need a good PA and aways have to EQ to take account of the PA and the venue environment. Once you adjust your kit sound to sound as good as it's gonna get, you have to do it all again when using different kit sounds.
Yes, but that's basically the same problem you have with an acoustic kit in different live venues no? An electronic kit actually has the advantage that is has no acoustic sound to it, that might be problemtaic with the individual room acoustics & interfere with the sound coming out of the PA, so it makes life easier actually in some cases :) kind regards!
Christ. I could listen to this guy play all day. What's his name?
Thank you very much! :) All drum-tec demos are played & produced by www.ralfschumacher.eu Kind regards!
Wow
Great video, you should try to sue the new drumset with superior drummer 3 and steven stale drums 5 to see how it would respond
Thank you, it will probably respond very well, as the new TD-27 module is great for triggering external sample libraries & Roland modules work very well generally speaking :) Kind regards!
Which do you prefer? The Roland 20” bd or is the custom pro 20” better and I mean feel better? Ralf, what do you think?
Hey Greg, definately the diabolo / pro Real Feel bass drums. The new Roland 20" has a KD-9/KD-10 pad mounted in the shell, just like the KD-A22 has (making it more noisy & giving a less authentic rebound/feel):
ua-cam.com/video/rQcpY2VAuro/v-deo.html
Kind regards!
I could see that tower on a commercial, ! I knew that was going to feel bad...and noisey. Your pro series are much better. I surprised at how much I like the TD-27. Maybe I need your shell pack with it.. I already have hardware ...and SD3 ! I want you to play that through the 27 !! Thanks 😊
@@gregwilliams2764 Playing all kits of TD-27 actually coming up TODAY :-D
I would like to own one if i have the money..coz its super nice..but sound wise i will not use the moudle sounds but i will definitely use sd3..ezdrummer2..ad2 and ggd..these drum plugins are the real deal..super authentic acoustic sounds
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Kind regards!
Meu sonho
Simple Question, how do you record drums while recording camera
Not so simple answer: You need pre-programmed motion sliders for the moving cameras, the other ones are placed on tripods/stands (or you get an additional camera operator to the studio). Then you push record on all devices, later you sync/cut & edit the material in Logic Pro Audio & Final Cut, et voila :-D Kind regards!
Hello There, Couple of questions
1) What is the difference between this module and TD50KV module.Which is powerful
2) TD 50KV has the direct output for all pads/cymbals etc and Does TD27 has only 2 direct out? Will it not be a challenge in live shows
3) Can we overlay a sample or patch to have a dual tone. For Example clap & a kick?Can I assign & use this across all the toms & snare?Can I use the patch downloaded from external world?
4) Any different color shells available
Hi!
1) TD-27 is the new Rolamd middle class module, TD-50 is the high end model.
2) Yes indeed, if you need 8 direct outputs for live, only the TD-50 has those.
3) Yes, all current Roland modules (TD-17, TD-27, TD-50) offer "sub sample" layering, which means you can use additional one shot samples on top of the module´s onboard sounds on every trigger zone.
4) unortunately no, but you can check out the 100% Roland compatible drum-tec diabolo or pro series electronic drums as an alternative over here:
www.drum-tec.com/pads
For any further questions, please get in touch through service@drum-tec.de! Kind regards
That Punk Rock beat @ 4:23
How do you play it ? Is there a lesson for this beat ?
This is one of the easiest beats to learn lol
How these compare noise wise? Are they noisier than the TD-50 pads for example?
Hey Rafael, the weakest/loudest part of the kit actually is the KD-200 bass drum, which has a KD-10 pad mounted into the 20" bd shell. YOu can compare bd noise levels over here in our comparison video if you like:
ua-cam.com/video/rQcpY2VAuro/v-deo.html
The other pads (toms) have about the same noise level as the other Roland / drum-tec pads, as they use mesh heads & have no tone or resonances from the shells. Kind regards!
Roland finally get the bass kick sound and triggering right.......... now for the toms
Hi Drumtec! How does the Roland kick feel compared to a Drumtec kick?
Hey James, the KD-200 basically is a KD-10 pad mounted to a bd shell, making it very loud and pretty "hard". The drum-tec Real Feel bass drums are more silent & feel much more authentic, as you can really "dip" into the batter head like you would do on a an acoustic head without any unwanted or weird rebound. You can check out our bd noise level comparison if you like, where the KD-A22 was included, which is basically the same thing as the newer KD-200:
ua-cam.com/video/rQcpY2VAuro/v-deo.html
Kind regards!
drumtecTV that actually helps a lot. Thanks for the response!
@@drumtecTV Actually I have one more question: I understand that there is a significant difference in feel for the kick drums. For the rack toms, is there a big difference in feel between the VAD shells vs the pdx-100 pads on the TD27kv, or is the difference mainly in the aesthetics? Thanks so much for your insight! It is hard to try them out in person due to the pandemic :(.
@@jameskim6919 Hey James, yes there is a difference, probably not quite as obvious as between a KD-200 and let's say a drum-tec diabolo series bass drum. But still the feel of the PDX-100 will be different, and not as "close" to an authentic acoustic playing experience as the drum-tec pro/diabolo series or the VAD toms. Kind regards!
@@drumtecTV Perfect, thank you! Looking forward to purchasing a kit from you guys later this year! Have a great one
Does the snare have positional sensing with the TD-27?
Yes
@@davidcode83 Oops, I commented too early. Saw it in the video.
What software was used to record audio in to the laptop?
DI stereo out of the module into Logic Pro X / Macbook Pro. Kind regards!
Does the digital snare and Ride fully integrate with Superior Drummer etc?
Hey Dave, yes the playing information is processed inside of the module & then sent out through midi. Superior Drummer 3 has some great positional sensing features for both snare & ride, and great working mapping possibilities for hihat also. Sadly we don´t have a demo with this exact setup, only a TD-50DP / ATV EXS-5 kit going into Steven Slate 5:
ua-cam.com/video/xrV5I8LKoFA/v-deo.html
Kind regards!
Thanks so much. That’s taking it to another level in SD :)
@@davefiano4172 Hey Dave, this is using the TD-50 module, but the same would work with TD-27 as well:
ua-cam.com/video/Ga720o4oe6M/v-deo.html
Kind regards!
drumtecTV Love the vids!
@@davefiano4172 Thank you Dave! :)
I’m new to electric kits, is there any way to change the tone of the drums? Like let’s say i want the kit to sound very “rock” like, is it possible?
Hi, sure the TD-27 has onboard eq/comp & fx, and you can tune/muffle/change size of all the internal drum/cymbal sounds. Kind regards!
drumtecTV thanks!
This module should be compatible with most of the pads and even VH-13 i think.
Yes it is! :)
Still amazes me to this day, Roland has never gotten the sounds right. They made some nice progress with the TD30 and the cymbal swells and the snare had that round robin non machine gunning algorithm to it, but they just stopped there. They didn’t include that to the toms and the toms have machined gunned since day one, they never addressed that, even to this day with the TD50. Pearl Mimic Pro has gotten the closest to a very good sounding module with the built in VST in a box concept. The best sounding drum module has been the 2Box Drumit 5 with the “modded” SD card mod to convert and play Superior drummer kits on the module itself with no need for a middle man laptop. It was and is still fantastic, but IMO there’s no looking back with the Pearl Mimic pro. I hope they only get stronger and get better because sample and sound wise, Roland is still underachieving.
It frustrates me too. I think it was 2box that used actual wave files in their modules. It was the closest thing to an actual kit. I'm sick of these companies creating these highly expensive kits that still sound like they did in 2008. If it's going to come down to using plug-ins- I'll just buy some triggers and a cheap module.
@@chopzmasta07 I believe its true since I haven't gotten the Roland kit yet, once you MIDI this kit or other V drum, EF Note, ATV kit, etc into your DAW, you should be able to load a VST such as Abbey Road 60s Drummer by Native Instruments and get (as an example) the authentic sounds many of us seek vs. being limited as to what's in this module or any other. It appears the module here is your selection of choices for straight out of the box configuration. At least with the TD-50X you can load your own samples thus saving any snare from any VST such as Native Instruments or Komplete 13 or Reason 11 and upload those samples into the Roland module to create your own kit sound.
Soundwise I am going to look at more clips, a bit skeptical here based on this video.
Yes the sound is a bit suspicious, but there are so many free softwares that make any vdrum sound amazing. Really all about hardware
You can check out the TD-27 playing all kits demo over here:
www.drum-tec.com/roland-td-17kv-l-drum-tec-edition-with-live-sound-edition
Kiond regards!
@@drumtecTV well I just bought a VAD306 and added this module to the order so my skepticism wore off. I specifically dont want real drum sizes both in width and height, and the current 506 with the real sizes just not for me, but I can add 3 more if any others hit the market. The kit is not winning any fans pre release. I couldn't pass up doubling the number of sounds and a bit more I/O options on the 27. Now if I can find matching 6 and 8 inch toms (drum tec? 😀) I will have my dream kit.
@@evankeal Hi Evan, as of know we only have the 6" diabolo fx pad and the diabolo Hand Hammered 8":
www.drum-tec.com/drum-tec-diabolo-fx-pad-6-x-5-stainless-steel-with-design-mesh-head
www.drum-tec.com/drum-tec-diabolo-mesh-head-pad-8-x-5-hand-hammered-design
But there will be more options SOON ;-D kind regards!
My favorite part is in the minute 4:22
I love that crappy hi hat sound
I can change the cymbals type ? Like a rock crack and fast crash ?
Do the digital ride and snare advantage become void if using a VST like SD3?
Hey Paul, well the module will obviously put out the "same" kind of midi information, but playability & feel/rebound are much better with the CY-18DR compared to a CY-15R for example. Kind regards!
drumtecTV Thanks
Is Vh-13 hi-hat compatible with TD-27 sound module?
Yes it is:
ua-cam.com/video/xNvrWjNpYgs/v-deo.html
Kind regards!
Is there a chance you can convert this set to an acoustic set if you had to for a temporary purpose? Of course I would get real cymbals. I wonder how they would sound?
The trigger systems are permanently fixed inside the shells (which are probably not too good sounding anyhow being made of poplar probably), so you would lose your warranty if you removed the electronics & would probably cause damage too. Kind regards!