2 Clicks Out: CBR600RR Suspension Setup (TRAILER)
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
- (TRAILER) full video here: davemosstuning...
The Honda CBR600RR has been discontinued, just like the Ford Mustang and Chevy Camaro were for a time. Unlike those cars, every generation CBR600RR is a vastly superior performance machine. With a proper suspension setup any CBR600RR model can crush the newest Mustang or Camaro, even with a passenger perched on the pillion.
![HONDA CBR600RR [2003 --] NOBODY TELLS YOU ABOUT THESE SUSPENSION SETTINGS [BUT I WILL DO]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/kCmlIf43Cwc/mqdefault.jpg)
I love the Dave Williams intros. It always looks like they just shook Dave awake at 2 in the afternoon. He threw some clothes on and then propped him in front of a camera and said "Dave read this."
LOL
😂😂😂
The 600 HAS RETURNED
Dave Moss asked me to post to spread the good word. This is the only source of social media I am on though.
We missed you on Saturday, Mr Williams. I was able to thank Dave Moss for all the tuning genius that he is sharing with everyone. I asked Moss to thank you, Williams, as well. You guys are awesome.
I told Moss that I commented on a video a short while back. I believe it was the first of the three bears series. I mentioned that the videos are the class work. We take what we learn from the class and apply it to our bikes. When I go see Moss, that is the test to see how I have retained and applied the knowledge. I was, "very close" in my setting this past weekend. After only a year and a half of riding and studying Dave Moss Tuning, I am definitely happy to hear, "very close".
Thank you guys again.
I still side with Williams on the forks being easier to tune.
Robert, '18 R6
Thanks for posting Robert and all your studying REALLY paid off with an excellent attempt. Being just a couple of clicks away is what I was most proud of on your behalf.
He's totally correct about the ramp adjuster! Mine is totally seized up. Time to service the shock 😀
Thanks for checking and not destroying you shock! Be sure to clean the spring and preload adjuster assembly inside and out as well as clean the outside of the shock body well.
Dave come in Greece! We need your wisdom!
Plans fell through last year, but hoping to be successful in 2019!
Dave if you ever come out to the Autobahn Country Club in Joliet ILL, you're welcome to stay at my place for the cost of a suspension adjustment!! Great video's thank you!
Hi Anthony. Thanks for the kind words and generous offer. I used to get there often with STT when I ran the DMT Suspension school. Unfortunately that program was stopped due to changes in their insurance. With COVID regs relaxing I hope to be able to travel more.
Nice nail on that rear tire :-D 3:07
Its not a nail...
600s are the bikes that you can constantly redline and use all the power and still be going 80. Fun bikes to Rev out. Screamers
Beautiful 05. 38k miles and it looks better than most peoples babies
Just bought a 06' 600rr for $1k , headlight an plastics clapped out but she runs fine
Genius.
I heard true bottom out on a cbr600rr is 25mm or 20mm above the lip at the bottom of the fork tube? Can't remember which one, At least for an 05-06 stock fork. I have an 06 and i was told in the forums that i have to account for this.
06/7 is 25mm
Hi Dave!
I noticed that you dont measure when the bike is lifted up.
1. You use only 2 different measurements, rider on the bike and rider off the bike?
2. How do you calculate the correct millimeter using only these 2 measurements?
3. I've watched one video of yours where you were teaching with R6 how to measure the sag settings. In that video you measure when the bike was lifted up also, but is that measuremet nessessary at all because you dont use that method in these videos, or did you just edited that part out?
I have Kawasaki ZX-6R 2019. I have only 4500km with it. Everything is completely stock. I have huge problems with the feeling. Front tries to slide under me after certain point of turning (something like after 30% of lean angle), while rear tyre is jumping during the corners, specially in fast corners where speed is over 120km/h. Also the steering is super fast and the handlebar feels very loose. So I know that the settings are way too soft, just dont know how much. I ride like 80% street and 20% track. Even though I ride only 20% track I'm riding 2nd fastest group during trackdays.
I havent touch the sag setting yet cos I got confused when you teached to measure also when bike is lifted, but still you only use rider on and rider off? So which is the correct way to approach when I'm gonna set my sags?
Thank you!
In the video I did not extend the forks as I use my knowledge/memory of what is extended for each bike. That saves a lot of time for me with many riders who are waiting. Rebound is too fast so the bike is out of balance. Set fork rebound to 3 turns from closed/maximum, then set compression to 3.5 turns from maximum. For the rear shock, set compression at 1 turn from maximum, rebound at 1.75 turns from maximum. Put a cable tie on the right fork leg to assess travel.
@@catalystreactionsbw I understand. I will try those settings which you gave for me. And just to make sure, with the cable tie I can see where I'm at with preload settings? If the cable tie is fully down then my front is too soft?
Thank you so much for reply. You have been so helpful so many different ways!
@@joonasdahlin Yes, too soft.
Hi Dave. Any advice on brand new 2023 CBR600RR? Im 5'9" 200 lbs... Love your work. Cheers.
set sag at 30-35mm rear and 35-40mm front and assess travel used. Compression at 50% of the total range to start, then see how the CBR rides.
@@catalystreactionsbw Will do. Thank you!
Hello, its me again!
Thanks for posting video about cbr600rr. When Dave makes suspension adjustments it looks so easy, especially rebound and compression, just press the bike and fine tune it 😁
I would like to set my '06 600RR myself, but I dont know what base setup to use. Ok, sag I can measure, but compression or rebound.... I would appreciate some help if possible?
You should leverage the 1-1 remote tuning option with me so I can teach you. davemosstuning.com/coaching/ After this experience, you will be able to change settings based on what you watch or what you acquire via email from me.
Was the red CBR @ Thunder Hill running R6 calipers? I have see this before must be the hot setup. I wasn't aware that Honda quit making 600 seems like a wrong direction move on their part. Great work you 2 thanks.
No, standard OEM calipers for the Honda. The R6 calipers look quite different.www.ebay.com/i/264215689182?chn=ps
Stinker doodle I think they’re the same as Gsxr calipers. Yamahas have the gold plugs on the side
Hes doing the Lords work
Dave only you can answer this, 08 cbr600rr, left preload adjuster doesn't turn. Right pre load adjuster turns indefinitely. WHAT MUST I DO TO FIX THIS? Suspension is very stiff ,Thank you for all the knowledge Love your channel!!
If the preload adjusters do not function that is normally a broken preload spacer. One that spins indefinitely is separated from the cap. Both forks need to be taken apart and reviewed.
@@catalystreactionsbw Much thanks, if theres one channel I follow and pay close attention to in every detail and word its DMT!!
Wait, was this a false alarm regarding the 600rr being discontinued? Cuz... there are 2021 model 600rr's available for sale!
Check if they are "new old stock" and if true 2021, Honda reversed their decision.
@@catalystreactionsbw
For real, the 2021 600rr is red, white and blue
@@petert8807 Wow, great news for fans of the Cbr!!!
What tool did you use to adjust the preload on the shock? Every time i have had to change that i had to take the shock out lol
Shock wrench. Comes with the bike or get one online somewhere like eBay or partzilla
Cheers mate @@dbtrackz33
www.motorcycleproject.com/text/tools08.html
Hi dave. I have a 2009 cbr 600rr i think the perivous owner messed with the surpention. Im looking at going back to stock set up im 140/145lbs without gear will tjat be an ok set up for me?
Depends on oil age in the forks and shock. Go back to stock and make compression 1/2 turn more left given your weight
Question - there is one new motorcycle in dealership. Production year 2014. Question - should I change fork oil or not. It has 0 km on dash, but 5 years of doing nothing.
No need to change the oil as there has been no movement. Make sure to keep attention on the fork oil seals that they do not leak due to inactivity.
@@catalystreactionsbw Thank you for your answer! Have a great weekend!
I had my '05 rear shock serviced, that tin was put back, but fell out after the first ride. I just put a dust cap on if from my car's winter tires I had laying around :D
Silly thing though, when I now change the preload on the shock the whole bottom turns right along with it. I have to keep it in place with a screwdriver to be able to make adjustments. Probably the two surfaces had corroded together, and came loose by the disassembly during service?
The problem is grit and dirt, so periodically the shock needs to come out and have the spring removed, components cleaned and reassembled. Then it works fine for a couple of years longer unless you ride in a lot of rain most of the time.
My 2011 CBR rear is moving up and down during hard cornering. Is it because of the soft setup? Thanks
That is indeed from incorrect settings. 1. Check shock travel used (video on that topic). 2. Check compression and rebound settings. 3. Check tyre wear for confirmation.
@@catalystreactionsbw Thank you 🤘
does fork oil age matter? I have a 2008 with less than 2000 miles on her. garage kept.
Most oil today is synthetic so no worries at all. It will over time become viscous to the point of being almost silly string like, so a ride to see how the forks behave is a good test. If bumps stay harsh, you know the oil is not loosening up.
Hi the handbook of my 2016 speed triple, has a warning "the rear pre load is none adjustable"
Is that just them covering there ass, what's the point in online suspension if your not going to adjust it?
Yes, first time that has ever been published in any owner's manual. So very, very odd. I have no idea why as it makes no sense at all given other manuals they produce that give you settings. It would be interesting to try and get a response from Triumph HQ as to why one page was devoted to this. So far, there have been no explanations.
Dave Moss Tuning, cheers for the reply, yeah bit odd. I did email Triumph but they didn't get back to me, I also asked my local Triumph dealer, but they couldn't explain it.
Hey dave just wondering what adjustable spanner tool that is
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Why are them cbr600 rear shocks so soft ?
Someone at Honda or Showa signed off on the shock valving and spring rate. Outside of that, there is the test rider that may or may not have given the thumbs up.
Where will he be next??????
If you want to watch the full video you can click on the link at the end.
Hi Dave you mentioned servicing the rear shock what's the average age/mileage you should consider this?
6-8,000 miles for a rear shock would be ideal. 8-10,000 would be the limit.
Desculpa minha ignorância mais gostaria de saber pra q serve essa peça?
Este vídeo é para ajudá-lo a configurar a suspensão de um CBR600RR para o seu peso e a leitura do hodômetro.
@@catalystreactionsbw muito obrigado pela ajuda.
0:02 I thought it was "please subscribe to help you and your mother f....."
Can someone steer me for CBR 1000 set up please?
Hi Ken. a CBR1000RR or a different model? If you subscribe to at www.davenosstuning.com you will access the full length video and get all the settings you need for this model. If it is for a non RR model, we have no video on that model so you and I will work together to get it set correctly. That will be via email: dave@davemosstuning.com
Thanks Dave I set up a freemium acc, now to search.. its for an RR