1) I have an RC8R with the engine, suspension, brakes and electronics of a 20' 1290 Super Duke R and it the best monster I have ever created. 2) I own two MVs with 10k+ miles on each and never had any problem with them.
The problem is the mv agusta he had was before Euro 5. The modern bikes, especially 2019 and after, are actually fairly reliable. So long as you follow the maintenance intervals. My only real problem with MV myself is they're kind of slow on the electronics. I've test driven an f 3, and I found the dashboard to be a little laggier than it should have been. Especially on a bike that's over 16 Grand. Not going to stop me from buying one, but still
Regarding the VMAX's reliability. I have a 2009 which I bought new in 2009. Problems so far: zero. The only servicing that has been required is just regular maintenance: oil, coolant, battery, and tires all of which I did myself except the tires. Its the most reliable bike that I've ever owned and I have owned many bikes since I began riding in 1967.
hey if you like the MV Agusta as a track bike, I can only recommend it. I have the 2014 F3 675 which surely is "less reliable" than the new one you rode. But up to today, having it as a trackday bike for years it has been 100% reliable. I did around 6500 Km solely on track with it. I was doing the oil changes myself. Thats very easy. And here is a list of issue that it had in the ten years. Gear indicator sometimes blinks between two gears, there is a software update which I never went to get that would solve it. I replaced the rubber bushings on the rear sprocket (they last more on newer models, but cost almost nothing anyways and can be changed in like 15 minutes) and because I was not using torque wrench the oil drain bolt cracked, so i had to replace it. It was made in a way that the bolt cracks instead of you destroying the thread. Other than this no issues. The few parts I needed arrived within 14 days of ordering online. The MVs have issues mainly when ridden on the road. On the road people complain about rear brake overheating and getting soft because the cylinder is attached to the bottom of the engine, they complain it overheats in traffic and little things like that, but none of it happens on track. It is just a track bike with number plates. It doesnt work on the road, but it surely does work on the track, no overheating even in big heat, brakes never fade. And even on the straights I go as fast with the 675 as my father on a gsxr 750, I have better laptimes on the MV too. I had mine fully stock other than the crash protection the whole time and never felt limited by anything. I borrowed to a guy who won a european championship to ask what I should change about the bike and all he said was put a raceshift, other than that he said "I dont see any weak areas". Really worth it for track, even in terms of price as you dont need to be replacing tons of things immediately to make it ridable like you have to on japanese bikes. Even the suspension is fine stock.
in comparison my fathers gsxr 750 as a trackbike is way more trouble. Brakes were crap, so a new master cylinder and brake pads, still not as good as the MV. Suspension had to be done, of course immediately needs rear sets. The ECU was cooking itself so it had to be relocated. Needed a power comander and engine tune because the throttle reactions were way too harsh and here it goes. A lot of extra money to not even get on the level of the MV completely stock
I own a 2010 VMAX 1700 and I love it. If you ever get a chance to ride one with the usual mods like exhaust and air box mod with an unrestricted ECU you should definitely do so cuz it's a whole different animal than the stock one you rode. They are heavily restricted from the factory so an ecu flash really unleashes the bike's true potential. In 53,000 miles the only repairs mine has needed was fork seals and basic maintenance. It's been super easy to work on so far. Easiest back tire I've ever done, no belt or chain to worry about. All around it's a badass and well built bike IMO.
Former Rocket 3 GT owner here 👋 I went into the purchase with serious reservations about the heft and sheer power. I honestly thought it was going to be a terrible decision because of those factors. I was dead wrong about that. The power .. there is ALWAYS power available, any gear you're in, anywhere in the powerband. It's just phenomenal. And despite that, it never feels like it's going to get away from you, so long as you handle it respectfully. Even the scenarios where you hit a major bump and you think you're going to accidentally overtwist the throttle and fly into space .. never really happened. And the weight? You do feel it a bit in the corners, but not terribly, and the center of gravity sits way lower than, say, a Softail Low Rider S. In fact, in my garage, when trying to turn it around, I could do a 3 point turn on the Rocket 3 whilst the Low Rider would normally be a 7 pointer. Remarkable. The bike is also a masterpiece of design, and really takes the "bespoke" part to heart. It's just beautiful. But I didn't keep it long. And here's why. 1. Bespoke. Just imagine being on a roadtrip in the US, and you break down somewhere. Not only are Triumph dealers relatively few and far between in my part of the country, the Rocket 3 shares so few parts with other Triumphs that you can be waiting a long time. Also, it was nearly impossible to go anywhere, whether a bike night or even a gas station, without someone scratching their head and having a hundred questions about exactly what they were looking it. 2. Bulk. Note that this is NOT weight. I'm talking about things like, say, that gigantic rear tire. Slow speed maneuvering were VERY difficult, at least at my skill level. Even low speed curves in the road were challenging because the bike just kept wanting to pop upright. I had one occasion where I needed to park on gravel, and let's just say I did not successfully complete the operation. I didn't drop the bike, but I came close. 3. Weight. OK, I said the weight isn't terrible. And it really isn't. EXCEPT if you lowside it. This never happened to me, but in sitting atop the Rocket 3, I can't imagine a scenario where a lowside doesn't immediately result in a shattered leg or horribly burned. Really, the #3 issue is also the heat. The headers are right next to your thigh and they get HOT. I was honestly terrified about ever dropping this because, believe it or not, right to emergency room. Cool bike, I'm super grateful I had a chance to put a couple thousand miles on one, and I'm sad I don't get to look at it every day anymore, but I'm also not sad to have been saved from the fate that is the life of a Rocket 3 owner.
Papap Yammie , I got my first street bike :) Been riding for like maybe 1 month now, absolutely loving it! All your tips and tricks have helped a ton 👍
As an owner of an mv superveloce, I both agree and disagree with the reliability part of it. Rear brake has reliability issues, battery as well, but - for me - that'it. And I don't think these part are tough to work on. But, I don't do the hard mechanical part myself, and I can kinda comprehend why in the US where the grid is even thinner than in europe you can have second thoughts. Great videos though and yes i am a masochist enough to use it every sunny day.
Fwiw - I had an MV F3-800 for 4yrs. Once they got the sprag clutch issue sorted I had no problems over the 4yrs I had it. I put 24,000 miles on her in those 4yrs. I only got rid or her because MV, going through one of their “will we go bust?” moments, and I struggled to get service parts. So she got swapped a Panigale V2
5:20 I get it Yam -- I started out riding old cruisers, and the first bike that I wanted after wrenching for years like the cafe racers do, finally came up and in my price range (fixer upper lol). a 2nd gen SV650. I rode it every day for almost a year, and just recently, another bike I have been wanting came up - a 2006 Hornet 919. and I LOVE it! seriously, I now know exactly what you meant about the 919. but a few weeks later, and I'm wanting to get back to my SV - - its light, peppy, has factory luggage racks, forever reliable, and has fairings. there's nothing I cant do with it on the street. and the 919 is still AMAZING. but its also big and cumbersome compared to the SV .... so I think I'm gonna sell it. 🤷♂
Im still in love with my Honda XL 500R 82 mod. Had her all the time. Not for sale 😂😎 And an Multistrada 1000 DS aircooled lovemachine…. In love with her to 😂😎
@@sajadyaghubi6536 I've had multiple models, Had a Brutale 800RR, F3 800 RC 2020 and now F3 RR 2023, covered over 20k miles on all of them, not a single issue so far into my MV ownership and I love the brand, i'd never own anything but an MV, major fanboy I know but there is just something so special about them.
Crazy! Out of the list I owned a Rocket 3 and have a Ural in the stable. I picked up the Ural for my 2 girls so we can all ride together or for date night with the wife.
I have an MV 750 F4 that had sat for 10 years before I got it. I pulled it down to replace the fuel system and what I'll say is, a lot has to come apart but because it's basically a road legal track bike, it's pretty quick to do. A lot of quick release clips and not many bolts. If you know what you're doing, I wouldn't be scared.
Congratulations on the little one. Or, sorry the phone ringing startled you and you didn't pull out in time. Whichever is most appropriate to your situation.
Rocket 3R 2023… 641 lb. Less than 800 lb🎉 Went from Fat boy to this adrenalin bomb. Leans in like like a dream. Great clearance, brakes are easy to feel… perfect for me. Tall big old guy.
As a semi-proud owner of a KTM RC8R, I would agree with you about the reliability. So far I've spent more time fixing it and taking care of leaks than enjoying the ride. However, it's been a little neglected over the last several years by the previous owner, so I hope once I get the bugs worked out it'll be better.
I have a Harley V-Rod Muscle and I enjoy riding it, it has a very decent power to weight ratio, I'm seriously considering a Rocket III Roadster (the previous cruiser style, not the current bike) I always liked that bike and these days you can get them for very good prices, on paper it is far more torquier than the V-Rod and just a bit heavier (not saying that the V-Rod is light by any means, but i don't find the weight too difficult to handle).
Just bought a brand new Zh2 a month ago and goes for it's break in service this weekend and already it makes me giggle like a kid. So cannot wait to give the berries.
@jockwithajoystick6851 That is not true. They only get run up on a small dyno for a few minutes to run checks. I have seen many bikes blow where they were not run in properly, especially high performance bmw's. It just isn't worth the risk on a brand new built engine with small metal shavings flying around the engine until it all beds in. With the cost of bikes now it's just not worth risking it. BMW won't even replace the engine if it has been derestricted too early and revved too high before the recommended break in period.
Any current KTM LC8c-equipped bike (790/890/Norden 901/800NK etc) should be on this list. Amazing engine while it works, but the camshafts are eating themselves alive.
My first bike i bought is a Triumph Speed Twin 1200. Its just sooooo good to ride and superb for the ultra tight twisties here in my area. I think im gonna keep it forever and bought a Panigale V2 Bayliss today so i can get rid of my old 955i Daytona with over 28k miles on it
I guess you're in the US, but a 955i Daytona from early 2000's was my childhood dream bike ! ^^ Would love to own one as a track toy someday, but to have yours shipped to France might exceed the bike's price xD Have a nice day and ride safe✌
As an MV Agusta F3 owner myself I have to say that reliability isn't bad at all. What it realy depends on when buying second hand is the maintenance done by the previous owner. If maintenance has been done regularly it'll work perfectly. If not it'll be a shit show. And even when it's a shit show... the moments it'll work make up for it. The main problem you'll have if you're not from the EU is waiting for parts. For most things you won't need to go to a dealer ship if you know how to work on bikes. Just parts take a while to get there I assume. Over here in the EU it takes about a week or 2 weeks for the parts to get in unless they still need to be made. But again... reliability... not bad at all as long as you treat it well
Oh man - I LOVED my F3 so much, but it was a serious problem child, and parts were impossible to get. I sold it and got a Daytona after it tried to kill me when the rear hub seized.
Motocompo - City Turbo not Civic, BUT that's not important. It's thing was it was for large cities in Japan like Osaka and Tokyo. Park in a garage, then ride to the office. I think it's real market is hard core JDM guys and taking it to large car shows to get around easily on. Treat it essentially like a pit bike but for concrete. I seen a Ural for sale a few weeks ago on FB Marketplace. I was like hmmm... Have a friend who's dog love riding around in the side car (not a Ural though) and wondered - would MY DOG enjoy that? lol. The Thruxton RS was on my list if my 8R was going to get totaled by insurance. It's a insane looking bike, sounds perfect, but I don't think it'd fill my corner carving needs. Although for the right price, I'd gladly put one in my garage.
Get yourself a rocket III Roadster 2.3 they're as cheap as chips nowadays and leave 9 out of 10 Harleys standing,immense fun for relatively little money.
Wild take considering the Duc sitting behind him is one of the lamest bikes they've ever made. I had a Hypermotard EVO 1100 SP and it was an absolute animal. It's a miracle I never received a ticket or worse on that bike. A buddy had a Ural when we lived in ATX and we took it everywhere, many bar hopping nights were had aboard that unreliable turd. Flying the sidecar over the sidewalk as we'd come around corners, a 6-pack in the sidecar, good times in our younger, dumber years. I too want a Thruxton after having a 900 version back in 2010, but I want the green Final Edition version. I had a deposit down and was in line for one with my local dealer but when I realized it won't be fun beyond an hour of riding and it'll ultimately just end up being pricey garage art I just couldn't bring myself to pull the trigger. There are lots of great bikes out there that make very little sense to the masses and as we age we get a little better at defining what is an impulse passion purchase and what really makes sense for our needs. That said, there's always room for one unnecessary bike in the garage so maybe that Final Edition Thurxton will find its way into my stable sometime in the future.
I love my Hyper 1100s, but I do have some concerns with it being the age it is. Not that I’m concerned with the reliability, at nearly 60,000 miles it’s still going strong, but that I’d feel like a jerk taking the chance of wadding the thing up. So I tend to ride it less aggressively than I use to. I feel like that bike will end up being a classic.
Hey Yam - I am very curious about hearing more about your ZH2 preference and specifically in comparison to a Z1000. I am very interested in hearing from you about the difference between the supercharged 1000cc engine and the 1000cc engine in regards to the experience of both from your pov
So... if you could only own 1 bike, want a sporty dynamic but not too concerned about being among the very fast riders on track - is the Thruxton the ultimate machine?
Just test rode the XSR-900 at a Yamaha Demo Day, and it was one of the best bikes I've ever ridden🔥needless to say, can't wait for the R9, and if it never comes, the XSR is just fine
@@JoeStanek-vu7rl I Think the R1 is Only going away in Euro Markets? tbh The 900 (3 Cyl) Motor is more in the power range of 600cc 4 Cylinders. Nowhere near R1 power, or a viable "replacement"
MV AGUSTA RELIABLE as long as cooling /oil ect checked . there is a nut who ran his f3 without coolant for 6 mikes , burned valve and blames manufacturer . the guy put out 15 videos and i called him out on every one .
Let's be honest... Most vehicles Content Creators try to create a hype for can be fun but are hardly reliable and practical; hence, not worth the purchase by people with limited resources and/or like to keep their vehicles for a good time.
"Bespoke" means custom made for a particular customer. Like a suit that is made just for you, or a Rolls-Royce where you call Rolls-Royce and tell them how you want them to make the interior. The Rocket 3 is not bespoke.
@@Gemmy777 Quite right. My suggestion would be if you don't know what a word means, either look it up or don't use it! The problem is when someone thinks they know what it means, but actually doesn't. I think that's Yammie's situation.
I ended having to sale both my motorcycles after being back riding for less than a year. I found a house the only house I could afford I am a disabled yet so this was a priority and I chose a home or a motorcycle. With my trash car always on the fritz and no more motorcycles has been real hard for me, I suffer from PTSD and TBI took a lot for me to even attempt to want to ride and it helped me a lot. Sadly however the damn universe hates my very soul, therefore I do not win anything when it comes to lotteries so I just don't bother and normally consider it a waste. Broke as a joke on a rope, but one day I will get another one.
My only concern with your conclusion is that you didn’t test this with 75-100kg weights. You tested the armor with 30x less force than you’re using it for.
The RC8C isn't that "special" when it come to parts. Most of the bike is either KTM parts that aren't extremely rare and a ton of readily available aftermarket stuff. All the controls for example are Spider racing. The subframe/tank is probably the only unique part.
What was your local Track? Was that Big Wollow I saw? I only ask because I want to suggest it to Milestone SrL. The amkers of RIDE 5 and MotoGP 24. I want to see more 'regular people' tracks in the game.
Always wanted an RD500 because who wouldn’t want a 2stroke 500cc GP bike. But then there is the game of which cylinder is misfiring, how much 2 stroke oil has it got, why do the brakes not work enough and why are the police shouting at me
Buy bikes because you love them. Not because they are popular. If there is something over your head to fix on it... pay someone who knows. I have a 2014 Rocket 3 and a 2018 Goldwing DCT Tour airbag. 2 bikes that EVERYONE has opinions on. Both are heavy and both ,as a automotive tech with 30+ years of experience, would ....not be comfortable working on personally. Bikes do not make sense as a logical means of transportation. They are about passion and enjoyment.
Totally disagree with you about the Thruxton RS. I ride mine on track days during modern vintage days and smoke others and I ride mine daily with the taller rises without issue. You seem to have a bit of a narrow minded view on the bike.
@GregLanz I'll be the one to say it. I've had / have 3 KTMs, 2 Ducs and 2 Apes. Most of my issues were self-inflicted. The recalls have been a lot less than on my BMW. On the Apes and Ducs, I rode them the 200 miles for recall type stuff.
I really don't like that the term "analog" is used in motorcycle content these days. Its just a reminder of the progress of bikes that most people don't like.
There's a lot of motorcycles I LOVE but would NEVER own. Because I'm broke.
Same here, i cant even pay my registration. Need to think about what needs to go car or motorcycle
Yes! Sadly...
@@alitoroganan2442car needs to go obviously
@@quandaIedingIe maybe if you didn’t vote for shit policies and higher taxes, you would be less broke. Just a thought
@@sebastianchmist6976 not the boosted Dc5😢
1) I have an RC8R with the engine, suspension, brakes and electronics of a 20' 1290 Super Duke R and it the best monster I have ever created.
2) I own two MVs with 10k+ miles on each and never had any problem with them.
The problem is the mv agusta he had was before Euro 5. The modern bikes, especially 2019 and after, are actually fairly reliable. So long as you follow the maintenance intervals. My only real problem with MV myself is they're kind of slow on the electronics. I've test driven an f 3, and I found the dashboard to be a little laggier than it should have been. Especially on a bike that's over 16 Grand. Not going to stop me from buying one, but still
Nice bikes
Rich. Good for you
Sounds like a KTM version of 7/11
For you 10k miles is enough to say something is realiable? 😂
Regarding the VMAX's reliability. I have a 2009 which I bought new in 2009. Problems so far: zero. The only servicing that has been required is just regular maintenance: oil, coolant, battery, and tires all of which I did myself except the tires. Its the most reliable bike that I've ever owned and I have owned many bikes since I began riding in 1967.
How many miles on yours?
@@vettonator About 13,000. I don't ride it that much.
Much more reliable than a Kawasaki H2!?
@@jgpatt I wouldn't know. I have no experience with a Kawasaki H2.
hey if you like the MV Agusta as a track bike, I can only recommend it. I have the 2014 F3 675 which surely is "less reliable" than the new one you rode. But up to today, having it as a trackday bike for years it has been 100% reliable. I did around 6500 Km solely on track with it. I was doing the oil changes myself. Thats very easy. And here is a list of issue that it had in the ten years. Gear indicator sometimes blinks between two gears, there is a software update which I never went to get that would solve it. I replaced the rubber bushings on the rear sprocket (they last more on newer models, but cost almost nothing anyways and can be changed in like 15 minutes) and because I was not using torque wrench the oil drain bolt cracked, so i had to replace it. It was made in a way that the bolt cracks instead of you destroying the thread. Other than this no issues. The few parts I needed arrived within 14 days of ordering online. The MVs have issues mainly when ridden on the road. On the road people complain about rear brake overheating and getting soft because the cylinder is attached to the bottom of the engine, they complain it overheats in traffic and little things like that, but none of it happens on track. It is just a track bike with number plates. It doesnt work on the road, but it surely does work on the track, no overheating even in big heat, brakes never fade. And even on the straights I go as fast with the 675 as my father on a gsxr 750, I have better laptimes on the MV too. I had mine fully stock other than the crash protection the whole time and never felt limited by anything. I borrowed to a guy who won a european championship to ask what I should change about the bike and all he said was put a raceshift, other than that he said "I dont see any weak areas". Really worth it for track, even in terms of price as you dont need to be replacing tons of things immediately to make it ridable like you have to on japanese bikes. Even the suspension is fine stock.
in comparison my fathers gsxr 750 as a trackbike is way more trouble. Brakes were crap, so a new master cylinder and brake pads, still not as good as the MV. Suspension had to be done, of course immediately needs rear sets. The ECU was cooking itself so it had to be relocated. Needed a power comander and engine tune because the throttle reactions were way too harsh and here it goes. A lot of extra money to not even get on the level of the MV completely stock
I own a 2010 VMAX 1700 and I love it. If you ever get a chance to ride one with the usual mods like exhaust and air box mod with an unrestricted ECU you should definitely do so cuz it's a whole different animal than the stock one you rode. They are heavily restricted from the factory so an ecu flash really unleashes the bike's true potential. In 53,000 miles the only repairs mine has needed was fork seals and basic maintenance. It's been super easy to work on so far. Easiest back tire I've ever done, no belt or chain to worry about. All around it's a badass and well built bike IMO.
Former Rocket 3 GT owner here 👋
I went into the purchase with serious reservations about the heft and sheer power. I honestly thought it was going to be a terrible decision because of those factors. I was dead wrong about that. The power .. there is ALWAYS power available, any gear you're in, anywhere in the powerband. It's just phenomenal. And despite that, it never feels like it's going to get away from you, so long as you handle it respectfully. Even the scenarios where you hit a major bump and you think you're going to accidentally overtwist the throttle and fly into space .. never really happened. And the weight? You do feel it a bit in the corners, but not terribly, and the center of gravity sits way lower than, say, a Softail Low Rider S. In fact, in my garage, when trying to turn it around, I could do a 3 point turn on the Rocket 3 whilst the Low Rider would normally be a 7 pointer. Remarkable. The bike is also a masterpiece of design, and really takes the "bespoke" part to heart. It's just beautiful.
But I didn't keep it long. And here's why.
1. Bespoke. Just imagine being on a roadtrip in the US, and you break down somewhere. Not only are Triumph dealers relatively few and far between in my part of the country, the Rocket 3 shares so few parts with other Triumphs that you can be waiting a long time. Also, it was nearly impossible to go anywhere, whether a bike night or even a gas station, without someone scratching their head and having a hundred questions about exactly what they were looking it.
2. Bulk. Note that this is NOT weight. I'm talking about things like, say, that gigantic rear tire. Slow speed maneuvering were VERY difficult, at least at my skill level. Even low speed curves in the road were challenging because the bike just kept wanting to pop upright. I had one occasion where I needed to park on gravel, and let's just say I did not successfully complete the operation. I didn't drop the bike, but I came close.
3. Weight. OK, I said the weight isn't terrible. And it really isn't. EXCEPT if you lowside it. This never happened to me, but in sitting atop the Rocket 3, I can't imagine a scenario where a lowside doesn't immediately result in a shattered leg or horribly burned. Really, the #3 issue is also the heat. The headers are right next to your thigh and they get HOT. I was honestly terrified about ever dropping this because, believe it or not, right to emergency room.
Cool bike, I'm super grateful I had a chance to put a couple thousand miles on one, and I'm sad I don't get to look at it every day anymore, but I'm also not sad to have been saved from the fate that is the life of a Rocket 3 owner.
Papap Yammie , I got my first street bike :) Been riding for like maybe 1 month now, absolutely loving it! All your tips and tricks have helped a ton 👍
I got a ZH2 and I could never get bored of it. I love that thing.
As for the Rocket 3 if you wouldn't ride a 165hp 800 pound bike then 80hp 800 pound Harleys REALLY are off the list!
640 pound not 800, 800 is gen1
648 pounds for 2021 Rocket, I own one, it is insane fun, brakes are so strong, handles easy even at slow speeds and maintenance is simple.
As an owner of an mv superveloce, I both agree and disagree with the reliability part of it.
Rear brake has reliability issues, battery as well, but - for me - that'it. And I don't think these part are tough to work on.
But, I don't do the hard mechanical part myself, and I can kinda comprehend why in the US where the grid is even thinner than in europe you can have second thoughts.
Great videos though
and yes i am a masochist enough to use it every sunny day.
Fwiw - I had an MV F3-800 for 4yrs. Once they got the sprag clutch issue sorted I had no problems over the 4yrs I had it. I put 24,000 miles on her in those 4yrs.
I only got rid or her because MV, going through one of their “will we go bust?” moments, and I struggled to get service parts. So she got swapped a Panigale V2
5:20 I get it Yam -- I started out riding old cruisers, and the first bike that I wanted after wrenching for years like the cafe racers do, finally came up and in my price range (fixer upper lol). a 2nd gen SV650. I rode it every day for almost a year, and just recently, another bike I have been wanting came up - a 2006 Hornet 919. and I LOVE it! seriously, I now know exactly what you meant about the 919. but a few weeks later, and I'm wanting to get back to my SV - - its light, peppy, has factory luggage racks, forever reliable, and has fairings. there's nothing I cant do with it on the street. and the 919 is still AMAZING. but its also big and cumbersome compared to the SV .... so
I think I'm gonna sell it. 🤷♂
Lol Yammie, I don’t like it because it’s complicated to own.
Also Yammie, owns a Ducati and a discontinued Triumph 675
Fun fact: ural has spring unit on front suspension instead of damping unit. 😅
Im still in love with my Honda XL 500R 82 mod. Had her all the time. Not for sale 😂😎
And an Multistrada 1000 DS aircooled lovemachine…. In love with her to 😂😎
I own an MV Agusta F3 RR and it's the best thing ever(I daily it.) I could never imagine myself on a different bike.
How long do you have it? Reliability?
@@sajadyaghubi6536 I've had multiple models, Had a Brutale 800RR, F3 800 RC 2020 and now F3 RR 2023, covered over 20k miles on all of them, not a single issue so far into my MV ownership and I love the brand, i'd never own anything but an MV, major fanboy I know but there is just something so special about them.
@@TheHiszpanTV not even rear brake issue ? got a superveloce and rear brake (and battery problems)
@@MontainDiscovery No rear brake problems, when it's very very hot it fades a little sometimes, but beyond that never.
I'm glad to hear the new bikes have gotten better. I just picked up a brutale 1000rs and put the first 1000km on it. I love it
Love the video. The blue fairing on the triumph hurts my eye balls.
You're reasoning is logical, I actually agree. Before I played the video my mind said H2 LoL
Crazy! Out of the list I owned a Rocket 3 and have a Ural in the stable. I picked up the Ural for my 2 girls so we can all ride together or for date night with the wife.
I have an MV 750 F4 that had sat for 10 years before I got it. I pulled it down to replace the fuel system and what I'll say is, a lot has to come apart but because it's basically a road legal track bike, it's pretty quick to do. A lot of quick release clips and not many bolts. If you know what you're doing, I wouldn't be scared.
Congratulations on the little one. Or, sorry the phone ringing startled you and you didn't pull out in time. Whichever is most appropriate to your situation.
lmao
The Rocket is the bollocks. May be heavy but when it's going, it just don't feel heavy. Hell of a machine
Rocket 3R 2023…
641 lb.
Less than 800 lb🎉
Went from Fat boy to this adrenalin bomb. Leans in like like a dream. Great clearance, brakes are easy to feel… perfect for me.
Tall big old guy.
As a semi-proud owner of a KTM RC8R, I would agree with you about the reliability. So far I've spent more time fixing it and taking care of leaks than enjoying the ride. However, it's been a little neglected over the last several years by the previous owner, so I hope once I get the bugs worked out it'll be better.
It won’t, sell it
Yeah... no get rid of it lol
I have a Harley V-Rod Muscle and I enjoy riding it, it has a very decent power to weight ratio, I'm seriously considering a Rocket III Roadster (the previous cruiser style, not the current bike) I always liked that bike and these days you can get them for very good prices, on paper it is far more torquier than the V-Rod and just a bit heavier (not saying that the V-Rod is light by any means, but i don't find the weight too difficult to handle).
The newer ones after 2020 are actually way below than the first 800lb dinosaur.
About to pull the trigger on a 1985 Kawasaki GPZ 750. wish me luck!
Yammie Noob "I'd love a Kawasaki KLR650, but their intense powerband makes me poopie my pants every time"
Just bought a brand new Zh2 a month ago and goes for it's break in service this weekend and already it makes me giggle like a kid. So cannot wait to give the berries.
Did you know engines are already broken in by the time you get the bike? You could’ve already been ripping around lol
@jockwithajoystick6851 That is not true. They only get run up on a small dyno for a few minutes to run checks. I have seen many bikes blow where they were not run in properly, especially high performance bmw's. It just isn't worth the risk on a brand new built engine with small metal shavings flying around the engine until it all beds in. With the cost of bikes now it's just not worth risking it. BMW won't even replace the engine if it has been derestricted too early and revved too high before the recommended break in period.
Funny that you have a Ducati scrambler in the background, that’s the one bike I love but would never own😅
Any current KTM LC8c-equipped bike (790/890/Norden 901/800NK etc) should be on this list. Amazing engine while it works, but the camshafts are eating themselves alive.
My first bike i bought is a Triumph Speed Twin 1200. Its just sooooo good to ride and superb for the ultra tight twisties here in my area. I think im gonna keep it forever and bought a Panigale V2 Bayliss today so i can get rid of my old 955i Daytona with over 28k miles on it
I guess you're in the US, but a 955i Daytona from early 2000's was my childhood dream bike ! ^^ Would love to own one as a track toy someday, but to have yours shipped to France might exceed the bike's price xD Have a nice day and ride safe✌
Shoulda gotten the MV. I’ve had two, an older F4 1000 and Brutale Dragster triple. Fantastic machines.
2021 Triumph Rocket 3Gt is 648 pounds dry, not over 800 lol. I own one and maintaining it is not hard at all, I do it myself.
Above all Crighton CR700W!
I want an RZ500 but would settle for any of the last of the really awesome old 2-strokers. An original H1/H2 too.
As an MV Agusta F3 owner myself I have to say that reliability isn't bad at all. What it realy depends on when buying second hand is the maintenance done by the previous owner. If maintenance has been done regularly it'll work perfectly. If not it'll be a shit show. And even when it's a shit show... the moments it'll work make up for it. The main problem you'll have if you're not from the EU is waiting for parts. For most things you won't need to go to a dealer ship if you know how to work on bikes. Just parts take a while to get there I assume. Over here in the EU it takes about a week or 2 weeks for the parts to get in unless they still need to be made.
But again... reliability... not bad at all as long as you treat it well
There's a lot of motorcycles I LOVE but would NEVER own. Because I'm brok
Oh man - I LOVED my F3 so much, but it was a serious problem child, and parts were impossible to get. I sold it and got a Daytona after it tried to kill me when the rear hub seized.
Z H2 forever and always. Looking forward to the next major refresh
Being a 56yr old week-end Rider Ural is appealing to Me. Put an mounted MG on those its perfect!😆😆😆
Motocompo - City Turbo not Civic, BUT that's not important. It's thing was it was for large cities in Japan like Osaka and Tokyo. Park in a garage, then ride to the office. I think it's real market is hard core JDM guys and taking it to large car shows to get around easily on. Treat it essentially like a pit bike but for concrete. I seen a Ural for sale a few weeks ago on FB Marketplace. I was like hmmm... Have a friend who's dog love riding around in the side car (not a Ural though) and wondered - would MY DOG enjoy that? lol. The Thruxton RS was on my list if my 8R was going to get totaled by insurance. It's a insane looking bike, sounds perfect, but I don't think it'd fill my corner carving needs. Although for the right price, I'd gladly put one in my garage.
Get yourself a rocket III Roadster 2.3 they're as cheap as chips nowadays and leave 9 out of 10 Harleys standing,immense fun for relatively little money.
RC8R+Deals Gap= pure happiness.
Wild take considering the Duc sitting behind him is one of the lamest bikes they've ever made. I had a Hypermotard EVO 1100 SP and it was an absolute animal. It's a miracle I never received a ticket or worse on that bike. A buddy had a Ural when we lived in ATX and we took it everywhere, many bar hopping nights were had aboard that unreliable turd. Flying the sidecar over the sidewalk as we'd come around corners, a 6-pack in the sidecar, good times in our younger, dumber years.
I too want a Thruxton after having a 900 version back in 2010, but I want the green Final Edition version. I had a deposit down and was in line for one with my local dealer but when I realized it won't be fun beyond an hour of riding and it'll ultimately just end up being pricey garage art I just couldn't bring myself to pull the trigger.
There are lots of great bikes out there that make very little sense to the masses and as we age we get a little better at defining what is an impulse passion purchase and what really makes sense for our needs. That said, there's always room for one unnecessary bike in the garage so maybe that Final Edition Thurxton will find its way into my stable sometime in the future.
Both of my motorcycles are on this list (Ducati hypermotard 1100 evo sp and ktm rc8r)😂😂😂 trust me yam it’s worth it!
17:17 It never stopped the Harley boys...
I love my Hyper 1100s, but I do have some concerns with it being the age it is. Not that I’m concerned with the reliability, at nearly 60,000 miles it’s still going strong, but that I’d feel like a jerk taking the chance of wadding the thing up. So I tend to ride it less aggressively than I use to.
I feel like that bike will end up being a classic.
Hey Yam - I am very curious about hearing more about your ZH2 preference and specifically in comparison to a Z1000. I am very interested in hearing from you about the difference between the supercharged 1000cc engine and the 1000cc engine in regards to the experience of both from your pov
So... if you could only own 1 bike, want a sporty dynamic but not too concerned about being among the very fast riders on track - is the Thruxton the ultimate machine?
Just test rode the XSR-900 at a Yamaha Demo Day, and it was one of the best bikes I've ever ridden🔥needless to say, can't wait for the R9, and if it never comes, the XSR is just fine
Yamaha announced months ago that the R9 will replace the R1 in 2025.
@@JoeStanek-vu7rl Feel like I've been hearing that since 2021 tbh, I'll believe it when I see it☠️
@@Next2Null you know that 2024 is the last year for the R1... they gotta replace it with something.
@@JoeStanek-vu7rl I Think the R1 is Only going away in Euro Markets? tbh The 900 (3 Cyl) Motor is more in the power range of 600cc 4 Cylinders. Nowhere near R1 power, or a viable "replacement"
That bike is so fun to ride, and pretty too.
Three minutes fresh! Now thatsa gooda video!
I would definitely own a Motocompo, not to ride but to hang on the wall of my game room. If I could get one cheap enough. It doesn't even need to run.
I'd keep a Moto Compo in the Jeep in-case I ever run out of gas. I can just go to the next station.
Would you rather ride zx6r 19-23 gen or zx6r 24 gen or earlyer gen
Rc8c is the first bike I've seen that looks like it has a mustache. Just needs a top hat.
That Ducati scrambler 🍋
MV AGUSTA RELIABLE as long as cooling /oil ect checked . there is a nut who ran his f3 without coolant for 6 mikes , burned valve and blames manufacturer . the guy put out 15 videos and i called him out on every one .
Let's be honest... Most vehicles Content Creators try to create a hype for can be fun but are hardly reliable and practical; hence, not worth the purchase by people with limited resources and/or like to keep their vehicles for a good time.
"Bespoke" means custom made for a particular customer. Like a suit that is made just for you, or a Rolls-Royce where you call Rolls-Royce and tell them how you want them to make the interior. The Rocket 3 is not bespoke.
lol...not everyone read through a dictionary
@@Gemmy777 Quite right. My suggestion would be if you don't know what a word means, either look it up or don't use it! The problem is when someone thinks they know what it means, but actually doesn't. I think that's Yammie's situation.
Love to see my home track on here. What's your pb?
Imagine.. an RC8R with the 1350 Vtwin inside it..... and totally cable-operated and analogue.
I ended having to sale both my motorcycles after being back riding for less than a year. I found a house the only house I could afford I am a disabled yet so this was a priority and I chose a home or a motorcycle.
With my trash car always on the fritz and no more motorcycles has been real hard for me, I suffer from PTSD and TBI took a lot for me to even attempt to want to ride and it helped me a lot.
Sadly however the damn universe hates my very soul, therefore I do not win anything when it comes to lotteries so I just don't bother and normally consider it a waste.
Broke as a joke on a rope, but one day I will get another one.
I love your Black out tattoo🖤
How about the old Benelli Tornado Tre 900 as a contender for the best three cylinder sportbike
My only concern with your conclusion is that you didn’t test this with 75-100kg weights. You tested the armor with 30x less force than you’re using it for.
These super sport are equal to super cars. You have to have the money and the space
Wtf, that RC8R is nutty yo!
Be a great video if you ever got to to a side by side with an H2
The RC8C isn't that "special" when it come to parts. Most of the bike is either KTM parts that aren't extremely rare and a ton of readily available aftermarket stuff. All the controls for example are Spider racing. The subframe/tank is probably the only unique part.
2003 R6 Power!!!
The Harley ad in this video was so ironic🤣
Owned and loved the rc8r. But it doesn’t belong on the street and is punishing to cruise or ride slow.
I have wondered why I haven't seen a video from you about or mentioned the very beloved (but maybe not that common?) Honda VFR series?
All other reasons aside, you can't afford or justify owning every bike you've ridden and enjoyed, welcome to the club.
What was your local Track? Was that Big Wollow I saw? I only ask because I want to suggest it to Milestone SrL. The amkers of RIDE 5 and MotoGP 24. I want to see more 'regular people' tracks in the game.
Damn Yammie, your first comment was a Porn-Bot; looks like you are gaining popularity!
Always wanted an RD500 because who wouldn’t want a 2stroke 500cc GP bike. But then there is the game of which cylinder is misfiring, how much 2 stroke oil has it got, why do the brakes not work enough and why are the police shouting at me
Buy bikes because you love them. Not because they are popular. If there is something over your head to fix on it... pay someone who knows. I have a 2014 Rocket 3 and a 2018 Goldwing DCT Tour airbag. 2 bikes that EVERYONE has opinions on. Both are heavy and both ,as a automotive tech with 30+ years of experience, would ....not be comfortable working on personally. Bikes do not make sense as a logical means of transportation. They are about passion and enjoyment.
People with cable actuated throttles say it’s a plus. Peep with throttle by wire say it’s better. Lol.
First dude wearing the Navy pt gear... Lol
RC8R has the 890 engine, not the LC8.
Edit: Im an idiot, the RC8C has the 890. Disregard the previous comment.
I am glad the motocompo is here and not the grom. 2020 groms for lyfeeeee
Is Yammie aware of the fact that there has been the KTM 990 SMR which he never actualy checked out?
an 800ss in the wild!
Mv Agusta you need to wait ages to get parts
Yammie looks like an undercover
Totally disagree with you about the Thruxton RS. I ride mine on track days during modern vintage days and smoke others and I ride mine daily with the taller rises without issue. You seem to have a bit of a narrow minded view on the bike.
So anything KTM, Ducati, Aprilia etc. Sure they'd be fun to ride but a nightmare to own
@GregLanz
I'll be the one to say it. I've had / have 3 KTMs, 2 Ducs and 2 Apes.
Most of my issues were self-inflicted. The recalls have been a lot less than on my BMW. On the Apes and Ducs, I rode them the 200 miles for recall type stuff.
A lot of good belly laughs!!!, Keep it up lol
For me its pretty much every motorcycle...until I own them lol
Any interest in doing an on Track review of my Hyper 1100? Could be an interesting Video
I want to find a spot for a rocket 3 in my garage and that mv Augusta there good bikes
Didn't you sell your Daytona?
The rocket 3 weighs in the mid 600 lb range
you didn't mention M1000XR / S1000XR ?
This list would have been mostly Harley-Davidsons if I would have made it
Does anyone know if the giveaways work if you live in canada?
I really don't like that the term "analog" is used in motorcycle content these days. Its just a reminder of the progress of bikes that most people don't like.
i find most harley bikes beautiful. but i dont like heavy bikes. the only harley i would own is sportster
Trying to find practicality in non practical machines is highly unpractical.
Live life, buy what makes the heart flutter.
i absolutely love my rocket 3
You put a lot of weird motorcycles on this list