Lecture #2: Plot Part 1 - Brandon Sanderson on Writing Science Fiction and Fantasy

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  • @colmanoreilly4247
    @colmanoreilly4247 5 років тому +7036

    Thank you for giving this out freely and not holding this behind a "MasterClass" paywall. Journey before destination, Sir. :)

    • @lilyme3
      @lilyme3 5 років тому +156

      THIS.

    • @ethanmauser4861
      @ethanmauser4861 4 роки тому +207

      I’ve learned so much more from only the second lesson of this than I have from any of the writing MasterClasses

    • @thomasmuandersontheneousul4184
      @thomasmuandersontheneousul4184 4 роки тому +49

      @@ethanmauser4861 Well, I myself look down on the whole MC idea to begin with apart from paying enormous amounts of money for nothing. But who knows? If some writer really needs say Gaiman's class that's them. I like Brandon and admire him but I'm not listening to learn to write - no magical book or class will do that. I just listen. Maybe it helps - maybe not but I'd take what he says with some skepticism.

    • @littleripper312
      @littleripper312 4 роки тому +103

      I'm sure he gets paid decently however I doubt money is his main motivation for doing these classes. That's why they're so good in the first place.

    • @asaffin1
      @asaffin1 4 роки тому +42

      @@ethanmauser4861 Generally I agree, excepting Neil Gaiman's class. I found it to be enjoyable and invaluable and nearly on the same level as Mr. Sanderson's course.

  • @jackdempsy7104
    @jackdempsy7104 4 роки тому +3769

    Anyone notice whenever Brandon takes a drink that the camera cuts to wide shot to show him standing under the big sign that’s says absolutely no drinks allowed in the auditorium? Someone is being funny!

    • @TheMusicscotty
      @TheMusicscotty 4 роки тому +491

      Funny yes. But from a singer, clinician, and presenter, NOT having water for an hour long lecture would wreck your voice pretty quickly.

    • @clark5317
      @clark5317 4 роки тому +100

      @@TheMusicscotty You're a Singer? What's your favorite form and rhythm?

    • @The_Reductionist
      @The_Reductionist 4 роки тому +206

      @@clark5317 War form, and Rhythm of War of course!

    • @kamposteria7307
      @kamposteria7307 4 роки тому +29

      @@The_Reductionist No mateform?

    • @jeremiahreed9725
      @jeremiahreed9725 3 роки тому +40

      Was that water? I think it was vodka.

  • @indig0icee
    @indig0icee 4 роки тому +3936

    I love how he repeats every question so we can hear it... actually, I just love this whole series

    • @shalimarlake7852
      @shalimarlake7852 4 роки тому +44

      @The Anonymous Sir Backspace For sure, the number of teachers or even just public speakers who address the person who asked the question bother me. Make sure everyone's on the same page and save yourself questions in the future.

    • @7Mushrooms7
      @7Mushrooms7 4 роки тому +24

      I'm not even a writer nor aspiring writer, nor do I read lots of fantasy, yet I'm here loving these lectures.

    • @ridespirals
      @ridespirals 3 роки тому +13

      every time I watch a talk like this and someone asks a question you can't hear I pray the speaker repeats the question. nothing worse than when they don't.

    • @anujjain1682
      @anujjain1682 3 роки тому

      @The Anonymous Sir Backspace are their spoilers of his series or other series, pls tell

    • @presz03
      @presz03 2 роки тому

      @@shalimarlake7852 y p o o. O o. Po o o. P

  • @Vokalplus
    @Vokalplus 3 роки тому +1859

    I can't believe this is free. GOLD. Thank you, Brandon.

    • @narayana7331
      @narayana7331 3 роки тому +4

      bruh, ga nyangka ketemu di sini... baca fantasi juga bang?

    • @abdurrahman-vf9in
      @abdurrahman-vf9in 3 роки тому +4

      Ketemu abang disini. Salam bang

    • @Rafas216
      @Rafas216 2 роки тому +1

      @@narayana7331 sim, ele lê fantasia 👍🏻

    • @greatcoldemptiness
      @greatcoldemptiness Рік тому +3

      All of this information you can easily find online anyways. There's nothing groundbreaking or innovative at all here, just basic 101 writing

  • @michaelandrews117
    @michaelandrews117 4 роки тому +1648

    I've just found this series of lectures and I think my favourite thing about Brandon here is, unlike other "tips and tricks videos" he doesn't discourage people using tropes or well-worn frameworks.
    He doesn't bash the idea of needing something wholly original and doesn't act as some sort of gatekeeper.
    Instead his enthusiasm to see people do *their* thing regardless of where it takes inspiration from is basically infectious and makes me feel like, even if one person reads my work and enjoys it, I've accomplished something.

    • @ammonnakai453
      @ammonnakai453 4 роки тому +13

      Indeed!

    • @Mdw2424
      @Mdw2424 4 роки тому +8

      Well said Michael!

    • @alecjira
      @alecjira 4 роки тому +56

      One of my biggest struggles is that when I write, I think constantly "no you can't do that", or "no you can't go there".
      Being told by someone better at writing than myself that I can is quite encouraging.

    • @stevenclayton4624
      @stevenclayton4624 4 роки тому +5

      Exactly

    • @loveylemon6807
      @loveylemon6807 4 роки тому +4

      Well said!

  • @TheKrazyLobster
    @TheKrazyLobster 5 років тому +1633

    This man is a treasure in this world. I hope he lives at least a hundred years.

    • @alascala1544
      @alascala1544 4 роки тому +68

      We are so lucky we have all this archived. 50 years from now when he’s Tolkien level famous in and outside of fantasy circles, new up and coming writers will still be able to watch these... well hopefully at least

    • @clng5550
      @clng5550 4 роки тому +51

      right? dude's such a genius, and he also puts the lectures on youtube for free so others can write, like wow

    • @natedlc854
      @natedlc854 4 роки тому +5

      Hes certainly helpful

    • @savagenovelist2983
      @savagenovelist2983 4 роки тому +4

      Yes, he most certainly should.

    • @AJNpa80
      @AJNpa80 3 роки тому +1

      Waiting for GRRM and Rothfus to slip him an envelope to come over and help weave the rug into a rope.

  • @Brontewelker
    @Brontewelker 2 роки тому +549

    PLOTS
    -A book needs to be the mashing of a lot of ideas. You can’t write a book from one idea
    -Good setting but bad character =bad book
    -Trash or cliche setting but good characters= still ok book
    - Try to have a strange attractor aka a spin on a familiar idea, or a mash of two ideas that don’t seem like they might go together. (Heist plus my fair lady = mistbourn)
    Promise
    - Tone: Indicates the tone and style of story you’re telling. The beginning chapters usually do this. If you want your story to be funny- the start of the story needs to be funny. Thats why the cold open is popular. *Indiana Jones. Don’t start with a kid on the farm if you want action adventure tone promise *Starwars -> that’s why a prologue is popular. Try to avoid the prologue cliche.
    - Character Arc: This is how the character is going to change throughout the story. Either how THEY change or their SITUATION changes. Show your character’s desires and what’s preventing them. Could also be showing reader what they know he should want, but the character doesn’t want *Bilbo doesn’t want to go on an adventure*.
    - General Plot: Umbrella plot (visible plot), core plot (what your actual progress and payoff is going to be). Core plot could be a romance, but the umbrella plot is “we need to do x, and while we do x we fall in love”. General plot should be the umbrella plot usually. You can be more predictable in your plot than you think as long as your setting is bomb and your characters are really likable.
    **Progress
    - This is the hardest but most imporant.
    - The readers want a “map”, they want to know the direction they are going and the progress they are making through the story. They want to FEEL the progress. They want to see the story building toward something, and they want to find out what that “something” is. Create an illusion for the reader that a steady progress toward an inevitable and exciting goal is happening in the story. Do this by identifying what questions the reader wants answered, that will be the reason they are turning the page.
    - If you make a “promise” in the book, but start taking the story in another direction then readers get bored because they feel like they are on a “diversion” from the actual plot. Thats when they get bored. Thats why the progress needs to be cohesive with the promises you make as a writer.
    - Starwars Example: Umbrella plot is destroy empire but the reader thinks is actually -> get the plans to the princess. Character arc is Luke trusts the force (secondary character arc of Han becomes less of a jerk). All the scenes should be working toward those goals. Thats good progress.
    - When you write a plot make little increments in the plot where you can show you are making headway in the goals. If you are writing a romance, you need to indicate progress is happening, so plot out little points to indicate that is blooming.
    - Sometimes you need to nest plots like Umbrella plot -> Character plot -> Sub plot which all gets closed at some point [ie Alderon is destroyed, we can’t take the plans there. New mini sub plot becomes turn off the death star tractor beam and rescue the princess].
    - Progress should involve problems arising.
    Payoff
    - The feeling you leave the reader with when they finish your book. You make good on all your promises.
    - Sometimes the final sequences/plot isn’t the original promise. It can be the character growing, plot expands, or along those lines. A lot of readers will have problems with a substitute a lot of times. If you promise them a “toy car” and give them a “toy plane” they won’t like that unless you REALLY convince them that what they really want is the substitute, even though they THOUGHT they wanted the original.
    - Pay off should flow naturally with the progress. It should give them everything they were promised at the beginning PLUS something else and new. Give them a toy car AND a plane.

    • @doireallyhaveto1
      @doireallyhaveto1 2 роки тому +40

      @@81droid81 did it hurt when you fall off from the heaven? Thank you so much.

    • @watashiwa8551
      @watashiwa8551 2 роки тому +5

      thankyou so. much

    • @rezar9908
      @rezar9908 2 роки тому +9

      Look i only use expletives when i am extremely satisfied. So fuckingggg thank you!

    • @mrs.melancholia3820
      @mrs.melancholia3820 2 роки тому +2

      Thank you! 💞❤️

    • @Zivers
      @Zivers 2 роки тому +2

      Thx! did you take notes on the other lectures, can you tell me where to see them?

  • @Aeras89
    @Aeras89 Рік тому +71

    It's no wonder that GRRM is taking so long to write his next book. Dude has so many characters and subplots and major plot lines that makes endless promises, needs progress, and payoff that it's like trying to untangle the largest heap of yarn in the world and connect all the pieces properly into a tapestry. I do not envy him.

    • @andrewthomason3626
      @andrewthomason3626 4 місяці тому +2

      A Meereenese knot, if you will

    • @Archangel591
      @Archangel591 Місяць тому

      While a major hassle, I think it's also fair to say that he has distracted himself with so many other things in his life, he's not giving himself the time and space to tackle the challenge properly.
      I'm sure that if he locked himself into a cabin in the woods for a year, with no internet, nothing but his books and a typewriter, he'd get it done. But he's too busy writing secondary stories, writing for video games, writing for TV, and doing all kinds of other stuff on top. He needs to full focus, not half ass it.

  • @guimaraesjoaopedro
    @guimaraesjoaopedro 4 роки тому +419

    "Kid on a farm"
    Can't stop thinking about Eragon's prologue and first chapter

  • @adasisok
    @adasisok 5 років тому +1417

    My friends: Beers after work?
    Me: Can't. Have class.

  • @brianroecklein3150
    @brianroecklein3150 5 років тому +1139

    This perfectly communicates why everyone is upset with the new Star Wars Trilogy. Each set of writers and directors made different promises.

    • @tulkdog
      @tulkdog 5 років тому +149

      Brian Roecklein
      I can’t agree enough. Every promise shouldn’t pay off exactly how you want, but when all of them are subverted and paid off opposite to how you’d except. . . Not enjoyable

    • @cheezyfilmsproductions1842
      @cheezyfilmsproductions1842 4 роки тому +45

      Should have just had Rian Johnson do all three of them

    • @onerandom688
      @onerandom688 4 роки тому +43

      Mauler has an amazing, in-depth series on why The Last Jedi was so disappointing.

    • @gamepad-coder
      @gamepad-coder 3 роки тому +14

      @Brian Roecklein, I almost skimmed past your comment, thinking it was more Star Wars flame post fluff.
      But wow, glad I read it. Yes, I think you're right.
      Genuinely useful application of this lens. Thanks.

    • @FirstOffNo
      @FirstOffNo 3 роки тому +8

      Wasn’t that the case for each of the original trilogy, as well? Empire wasn’t met with critical reception at first due to the incredibly departure in tone from A New Hope. Then we flip to an even more flamboyant tone than A New Hope with Return, and the use of things like Ewoks was panned.
      Not to say I’m griping about them, I’ve loved each incarnation. But the arguments can be applied to the originals.

  • @whakabuti
    @whakabuti 4 роки тому +702

    It's pretty great that BYU allows for these lectures to be shared online with students outside their university :)

    • @refoliation
      @refoliation 3 роки тому +78

      I’m guessing it is actually Brandon that includes rights to publish these as a condition to his work agreement, but I’m not sure. I’d bet universities (or their endowment’s stewards) would strongly prefer to jealously guard their ‘non-academy public figure’ lectures, but I may be completely wrong! 🙂

    • @chananyaminster
      @chananyaminster 2 роки тому +3

      They only did it because of COVID

    • @tempchannel5986
      @tempchannel5986 2 роки тому +25

      @@chananyaminster This isn't true - he has uploaded lecture series from years before 2020.

    • @simonnot8487
      @simonnot8487 2 роки тому +6

      @@refoliation Probably because the University provides to students, and not to us UA-cam viewers, access and participation to the writing and peer review groups that can provide hard feedback to students in these classes. But it is good as people outside of this BYU class can get some insights into what generally goes into writing Scifi/fantasy.

    • @jacksonmagas9698
      @jacksonmagas9698 2 роки тому +4

      @@refoliation It depends on the university, for example MIT has OpenCourseWare where they have all the materials for a ton of classes posted free online. Other universities have nothing posted online outside of canvas/blackboard where you need to be enrolled in the class to access.

  • @appledough3843
    @appledough3843 5 років тому +2354

    10:33 - What is plot? Why does it work?
    11:38 - Promise, Progress, Payoff
    Promise: Tone, Genre, Character Arc, Type of Conflict,
    18:42 - Character Arc
    36:05 - Progress
    45:00 - Progress in Umbrella Plot
    47:04 - Matching The Right Promises with Progress
    52:49 - Summary of Last Few Points
    1:00:17 - Payoff

  • @depressedcarrot4134
    @depressedcarrot4134 2 роки тому +207

    Its actually insane that we can hear a lesson from one of the most accomplished authors in the world for free.

  • @smash_adams
    @smash_adams 2 роки тому +91

    “Don’t start a wacky comedy with a prologue that makes us weep”
    *UP has entered the chat*

  • @ClintLoweTube
    @ClintLoweTube 5 років тому +644

    Just got my first manuscript request from Writers House. Watching Brandons vids helped a lot.

    • @NikolaAjzenhamer
      @NikolaAjzenhamer 5 років тому +30

      Congrats!! 👏🏻👏🏻

    • @ClintLoweTube
      @ClintLoweTube 5 років тому +37

      @@NikolaAjzenhamer Thanks. It will probably lead to nothing. I have no other prior publications, so unlikely to succeed. And I only self-edited.

    • @DrasticSkuba
      @DrasticSkuba 5 років тому +16

      Congrats. Good luck to you, now and in the future

    • @hamanu666
      @hamanu666 4 роки тому +13

      Write Heroes Congrats and you never know. This might lead to other things.

    • @Blizzic
      @Blizzic 4 роки тому +4

      WOO!

  • @drfpslegend4149
    @drfpslegend4149 2 роки тому +89

    Brandon is like the opposite of a gatekeeper when it comes to writing. He chooses to give back his knowledge in the name of bettering the writers of the world and uploading these lectures for fee on youtube instead of keeping his secrets to himself or charging people money to access his lectures. Truly a model for anyone in any field.

    • @WasatchWind
      @WasatchWind 2 роки тому +8

      I think Brandon might be better called a door greeter - he will welcome you in, and point you towards places you could go, while not telling you specifically how to get there.

  • @mhelvens
    @mhelvens 5 років тому +368

    I'm not an aspiring writer, but I'm still really enjoying these lectures! When someone is knowledgeable and passionate about a topic, I can usually listen to them for hours. And on top of that, Brandon is a really engaging speaker.

  • @jackinthebox1993
    @jackinthebox1993 5 років тому +423

    "Another One"
    -DJ Sanderson

  • @tennesseedime407
    @tennesseedime407 4 роки тому +434

    I love how even he has a hard time describing his own books. “It’s a uh, it’s ummmm, a.....it’s a fairy land?”

    • @3.k
      @3.k 4 роки тому +92

      He tried to do so without spoilers.
      Still kinda cute though. xD

    • @alwaysapirateroninace443
      @alwaysapirateroninace443 3 роки тому +3

      Same

    • @memcgiffin
      @memcgiffin 3 роки тому +1

      Sounds like shadesmar! Lol, totally not.

    • @adamuffoletto7869
      @adamuffoletto7869 3 роки тому +11

      Accurately describing Shadesmar means going off an entire tangent about the dimensional structure of the cosmere, how Investiture functions a la the spren, and to a certain extent spheres, Stormlight, and the highstorms. It's way quicker to just compare it to the fey realm and move on

  • @BlueJayYT
    @BlueJayYT 3 роки тому +164

    I'm not writing novels but I am writing scripts and I'm gaining tons useful information and tips from this.

    • @alethearia
      @alethearia 3 роки тому +9

      Having taken college script writing courses, this is all very much the same stuff. This is such a good resource for any form of writing.

    • @jake_runs_the_world
      @jake_runs_the_world 3 роки тому +1

      Me too lol

    • @jake_runs_the_world
      @jake_runs_the_world 3 роки тому +2

      @@alethearia well that's reassuring

    • @isaac10231
      @isaac10231 2 роки тому

      Same!

  • @syedkal29
    @syedkal29 4 роки тому +89

    "Why am I here? I do not even like stories."
    Was supposed to be my comment but I am now realising this could be an opener for my story. God damn it. These lessons work.

  • @GameMasterToolbox
    @GameMasterToolbox 5 років тому +488

    This year's classes looks like it's going to be the one with the best sound.

    • @sechmascm
      @sechmascm 5 років тому +2

      Video still off maybe

    • @GameMasterToolbox
      @GameMasterToolbox 5 років тому +45

      @@snarf1504 That's a good thing. The last time the students were mic all you could hear was heavy breathing, noisy keyboards, and creaky chairs.
      Brandon repeats the question and/or summarize longer statements, so we don't need to hear the students.

    • @mightymouse5930
      @mightymouse5930 5 років тому +12

      Snarf
      He usually repeats the question doesn’t he?
      I still have no problem with not hearing the student’s questions, because that means we’re not forced to tolerate endless typing, papers shuffling, sniffing, coughing, and even babies crying.

    • @EBgCampos
      @EBgCampos 4 роки тому

      You because of covid? Hope the next lectures exist haha

    • @GameMasterToolbox
      @GameMasterToolbox 4 роки тому

      @@EBgCampos Lol, wait, my question was asked B.C.

  • @mush7213
    @mush7213 5 років тому +157

    Thanks for the free knowledge nuggets. I'll pay it back by buying your books.

  • @neroresurrected
    @neroresurrected 3 роки тому +184

    Brandon must be a very good person, I’m 10 minutes into this presentation and the information provided is easily worth it’s weight in gold for any aspiring new writer regardless of genre. Brandon could just as easily charged a few thousand dollars as other well established authors have ( I won’t mention names but I could) for this course and yet makes it free on UA-cam! God Bless you Brandon Sanderson, you have just provided an amazing service to thousands perhaps millions of aspiring writers of fiction. 👍🏼

  • @averagejoereads7271
    @averagejoereads7271 5 років тому +292

    I think the whole ‘progress’ thing kind of explains why Season One of A:TLA, though iconic, is the weakest of the three. We establish the North Pole as a goal very early on and there are so many diversions, but it’s clever because it also introduces the whole comet thing, which keeps us hooked as an overall series end goal.

    • @kaitlyncleary3424
      @kaitlyncleary3424 3 роки тому +10

      I love season 1. But I love all the seasons

    • @ratnadeepsharma964
      @ratnadeepsharma964 3 роки тому +45

      But the thing is you don’t realise that book 1 is weakest until you’ve watched the whole series. Up until the finale of book 1, you are already saying, “This is so good”.

    • @dr.j7542
      @dr.j7542 3 роки тому +8

      @Funnycat 77 Nope. I think you'll find that overall, the most people would agree that Book 2 was the strongest. Masterpiece of a book. The character development is Incredible, the themes and subplots are mature. The overall execution is nigh perfect. Its like the empire strikes back of the series.

    • @LastMinuteGuess
      @LastMinuteGuess 3 роки тому +7

      @@dr.j7542 Ba Sing Se is the strongest setting in the show. So much happens there too and all the characters develop hugely.

    • @QualityPen
      @QualityPen Рік тому +3

      Book 2 > Book 3 > Book 1
      Although that’s not true of individual episodes. In my opinion, three best parts of the series are the Battle for the North Pole, the Battle under Ba Sing Se, and when Zuko was struggling with learning to use lightning. Those were all in Books 1 and 2. Book 3’s Last Agni Kai is an honorable mention. I think I like those moments the best because they were showing strong character growth (or change might be a better descriptor) combined with exciting events.
      Book 1 suffers from too many diversions and the writers appear to still be getting comfortable regarding the tone, so it’s goofy kid shenanigans in one episode and uncovering the genocide of Aang’s entire people in the next.
      Book 2 has consistent progress, character change, and a more consistent tone.
      Book 3 suffers from being less dynamic than Book 2. It has little character growth at all among the main characters beyond mending some relationships, which is hardly personal growth. Many of its episodes have little to no progress and while some are diversions, others just feel like stalling. One of the episodes is literally the main characters just waiting for the final episode to start. In other words, poor pacing.
      I critique because I love. Overall the series was fantastic. It’s a shame that in Korra the writers seemed to lose touch with what made ATLA good.

  • @kramerfortuna7228
    @kramerfortuna7228 3 роки тому +107

    I've had a series stuck in plotting and development hell for about a decade now. This year, I'm finally getting serious about writing it. I know I'm a little late to this party, but I found these lectures at the perfect time. I followed a lot of other people who offered writing advice, but so many of them just seem to take things so seriously that it's almost like a "no fun allowed" type of thing. This advice and these lectures really resonate with me and encourage me to write more. This is honestly better than any paid courses I've seen. The fact that this is free on UA-cam is an absolute godsend. Thank you!

    • @arcane_ironic
      @arcane_ironic 3 роки тому +6

      Good luck!

    • @kramerfortuna7228
      @kramerfortuna7228 3 роки тому +6

      @@arcane_ironic Thanks a lot!

    • @AngryZukoHere
      @AngryZukoHere 2 роки тому +3

      Good luck! Some authors when they give advice, they act like no one cares about it and you should have no reason to have a story and just write it anyway

  • @ZorroTheLast
    @ZorroTheLast 5 років тому +324

    I like the little Kaladin on his shirt

  • @conorprojas
    @conorprojas 6 місяців тому +4

    I love how at the last second the audience starts cheering him with applause and he responds with a tender "Oh, thanks". He certainly deserves that applause and more!

  • @svensorensen7693
    @svensorensen7693 4 роки тому +101

    "You cannot escape so easily, Dragon. It is not done between us. It will not be done until the end of time.”
    Then he was gone, and the mountain and the island stood alone. Waiting.
    Chapter 1:
    some-BODY

    • @littlestbroccoli
      @littlestbroccoli 3 роки тому +9

      Severely under voted comment.

    • @shirendjorgee9320
      @shirendjorgee9320 3 роки тому +9

      The fact that I knew exactly what this was referencing says a lot about me

    • @bradleygalo4775
      @bradleygalo4775 Рік тому +4

      Some-Body once told me I broke the world around me, and brutally murdered my family.

  • @philiplindecker6628
    @philiplindecker6628 3 роки тому +58

    I recently finished the first draft of my first book. This series played a big part in that.

    • @MetalGildarts
      @MetalGildarts 2 роки тому +2

      Still working on mine

    • @TrisquelXIII
      @TrisquelXIII 2 роки тому +1

      How are you doing with your book? I hope you will finish it and maybe publish it!

    • @philiplindecker6628
      @philiplindecker6628 2 роки тому +3

      @@TrisquelXIII I am very close, and I do intend to publish.

  • @PhantasusRex
    @PhantasusRex 5 років тому +291

    „No food or drinks allowed in Auditorium“ - and Brandon walking up there with his Bottle occasionally sipping like a Boss ! Lol xD but honestly thank you very much for this! Please more of it.

    • @nanotyrannus5435
      @nanotyrannus5435 5 років тому +27

      Happens often in universities. Stupid rule and most people just ignore it. I guess it is mostly if someone behaves badly, they can totally blame it on that person as the rules are clear.

    • @mightymouse5930
      @mightymouse5930 5 років тому +6

      The installation of that sign was obviously a baby boomer decision. 🥱

    • @Serastrasz
      @Serastrasz 5 років тому +64

      You're all missing the point of the sign, it's actually brilliant. If we allow food and drinks, the auditorium turns into a cinema hall, with all the same noise, mess and trash. Nobody wants that. Putting up a sign that says "clean up after yourself" doesn't work, because of our psychology. Humans only follow rules precisely if there is an immediate threat of punishment. Without enforcement, we always bend the rules for our own convenience. Bending "no food or drinks" becomes be sneaky and leave no evidence, which is exactly the behaviour we wanted!
      The professor/teacher having a drink is normal because they have to talk for 1 to 3 hours straight. Not drinking would destroy their voice.

    • @SheWhoWalksSilently
      @SheWhoWalksSilently 5 років тому +21

      I think it usually applies to everything but water, because cleaning reasons. Soda or juice is almost impossible to fully exorcise from carpet, and it’s an eternal magnet for dirt and grime.
      But I like the psychology for sneaky/no evidence food & drink, it makes a lot of sense.

    • @tineputzeys
      @tineputzeys 5 років тому +1

      My thoughts exactly!

  • @citizensguard3433
    @citizensguard3433 4 роки тому +85

    The bittersweet irony of the realization you spend more time watching videos about writing than actually writing. 😫

    • @CaioDrago
      @CaioDrago 3 роки тому +5

      I think it's just bitter 😭
      I'm on the same boat bud

    • @memcgiffin
      @memcgiffin 3 роки тому +1

      Dang, wow I just realized that. Oof

    • @FloridaGoth
      @FloridaGoth 3 роки тому +5

      Then take Brandon's advice and set an exact time to write. A no excuse time for the craft

    • @memcgiffin
      @memcgiffin 3 роки тому +1

      @@FloridaGoth yes, that has worked for me, writing is much easier now.

    • @FloridaGoth
      @FloridaGoth 3 роки тому +3

      @@memcgiffin today i took that advice to heart and did some writing this morning after a couples years of nothing. Only 150 words in 30 minutes but im making this my new normal. Hopefully i can finish this one haha

  • @thomasgallagher7464
    @thomasgallagher7464 4 роки тому +30

    Thank you so much...from a guy who barely makes ends meat and can't afford the masterclass or the formal education. This is a gold mine for me. Thank you, I dont know of a better way to say that at the moment so just...thank you.

  • @marlenejameson3028
    @marlenejameson3028 2 роки тому +20

    As someone with ADHD, and a very small attention span, I was engaged and enjoying this entire lecture. This is really rare for me and I appreciate how good of a teacher you are. Thank you for giving us the opportunity to enjoy your classes remotely.

    • @stevecarter8810
      @stevecarter8810 3 місяці тому

      Yes I made it to 37 minutes before going to the comments, says something about the information and its presentation, I reckon.

  • @KerstinMamma
    @KerstinMamma 5 років тому +109

    "Oh, thanks" like he didn't just drop gold.

  • @andrewwright64
    @andrewwright64 5 років тому +63

    Even if you've studied a topic for years, hearing things again can still be super useful. Case in point: I've listened to two previous years of his lectures, many seasons of Writing Excuses, and have a B.A. in Creative Writing, but despite having heard almost all of this a hundred times before I still discovered a promise that was missing from the beginning of my book that I spend half the novel paying off without setting up properly.

    • @tomheyworth6020
      @tomheyworth6020 3 роки тому +9

      To add to your point. It was great when Brandon brought up examples where he had failed to make the right promise because it emphasises that this is something even the best authors can get wrong.

  • @darkprinceofdorne
    @darkprinceofdorne 5 років тому +113

    Ah yes, The Master speaks yet again

  • @stephenfinch6897
    @stephenfinch6897 2 роки тому +11

    I am an aspiring Dungeon Master in Dungeons and Dragons. That format of storytelling and story writing is very different than a movie or novel, as my players are the main characters and their actions influence my story as it proresses.
    These lectures, despite being designed for authors primarily, are incredibly helpful for me in laying out my initial ideas and even as far as helping me with bringing these ideas to life! Thank you for having these on UA-cam!

  • @royxriza4ever
    @royxriza4ever 4 роки тому +33

    These lectures are returning my desire to write again. I've not been writing for a very long time, but I am finding a return to it cathartic. This is the class I needed as a young adult dreaming of being a writer.

  • @MasonSheffield
    @MasonSheffield 9 місяців тому +5

    It's characteristically magnanimous of you to make these available here, Brightlord 🙏.

  • @JenniferHart19
    @JenniferHart19 5 років тому +66

    Brandon, thank you for giving back! You've inspired me to write again!

  • @thecultofdionysus7619
    @thecultofdionysus7619 3 роки тому +16

    This man seems like a remarkable teacher from what I've seen this far.

  • @agprogamer
    @agprogamer 3 місяці тому +4

    Sir, your lecture was beneficial. It expanded my view of the plot, and thanks to you, I can now improve the plot of my books!

  • @Number376
    @Number376 4 роки тому +119

    It's funny and sad at the same time that i watched more lectures from sanderson than from my own proffessor in computer science

  • @Bertopolis
    @Bertopolis 5 років тому +54

    His hand writing has gotten much better since previous videos.

    • @EsaValkama
      @EsaValkama 5 років тому +1

      I noticed this too XD

  • @hollyseymour2029
    @hollyseymour2029 4 роки тому +17

    His classes are The Oasis in a desert for writers like me... THANK YOU so very much for these videos.

  • @kiyukikinjo
    @kiyukikinjo 2 роки тому +11

    Honestly I have never read any of Sanderson’s books, but I’m an English major studying in Omaha, Nebraska so I hear his name a lot !! Always was skeptical bc I was afraid that he was just an overhyped fantasy writer, but this series has completely changed my perspective of Sanderson and the fantasy genre overall !!
    This is an AWESOME resource if you don’t have time or can’t afford a creative writing class, but this goes even deeper than any writing or creative writing class I’ve been in. Not only is he giving a “how to” but also a “why this works so well”. I really admire Sanderson now and understand why he’s such a huge name in the English field. Truly deserved !!

    • @JS-vf5gn
      @JS-vf5gn 2 роки тому

      He’s awesome, definitely worth a read. I graduated as an English Major last year, and Brandon and his lectures are a cornerstone of infinite 💎 I continue to mine. He is, for all intents and purposes the Arkenstone of modern fantasy.

    • @paladinsorcerer67
      @paladinsorcerer67 Рік тому

      Mad props to Omaha, Nebraska

  • @HS-vy5up
    @HS-vy5up 4 роки тому +29

    Progress... omg this is why I loved Ready Player One and The Martian so much. I haven’t had that reading experience in a long time. I just needed to keep going to get to the promised destination! The Martian has the map too for his journey to the MAV and the journal so we can see days passing. And ready player one has this urgency of a race to get all the keys. Such a valuable lesson thanks Brandon! I will definitely put this in my writing.

  • @zachwilcock6199
    @zachwilcock6199 5 років тому +130

    Yes, another one! these things are gold for aspiring writers such as myself. Thank you so much Brandon!

    • @nathanj3528
      @nathanj3528 5 років тому +2

      Same here. This feels good

    • @Ruylopez778
      @Ruylopez778 5 років тому +6

      I would also recommend Ellen Brock's channel (novel editor) as she also gives really concise practical advice, like Brandon.
      Another channel is "film courage" in particular Corey Mandell and Alan Watt. Corey talks about the writer mindset and Alan talks about creating a dilemma and the steps that go along with that: reluctance, false hope, temptation, suffering, surrender and transformation (for arcs)

  • @dreamstorm947
    @dreamstorm947 4 роки тому +36

    I'm attempting to rewrite the novel i wrote in high school (badly) and with my most recent rewrite of the outline I was struggling to figure out how to start. When I did, the first few paragraphs felt WRONG.
    Now I know why, I wasn't making any promises as to what the reader should expect from me the author, the characters or the plot. I was just creating a scene without giving it a reason. This lecture was eye-opening. I can't wait to watch more.

    • @fsdklfjlksdfjlkj
      @fsdklfjlksdfjlkj 2 роки тому +1

      I've heard that writers will often finish a book and just scrap the first chapter, replacing it with the second chapter. I would say just write, and then worry about fixing stuff in the edit.

  • @tsilb
    @tsilb 3 роки тому +125

    Brandon makes me feel guilty for not reading more stories. It's as if these authors put their life's work into these projects, and I'm just letting all that effort go to waste.

    • @memcgiffin
      @memcgiffin 3 роки тому +1

      Ikr?

    • @KrazyKyle-ij9vb
      @KrazyKyle-ij9vb 3 роки тому +11

      I would love to read more books, but Brandon was my introduction into fantasy and I'm worried I won't find much that can top his works, especially the more recent ones.
      Like you know when you find that thing that tastes so good that you'd be fine if you no longer tasted, knowing it peaked there? Yeah. That's how I feel when I read his latest books and especially some of the highlights in the books.

    • @starmorpheus
      @starmorpheus 3 роки тому +11

      @@KrazyKyle-ij9vb There's plenty of current authors that match and surpass Sanderson's works in the fantasy genre. Joe Abercrombie, Steve Erikson, Brent Weeks, etc. I'd recommend exploring older fantasy works as well, especially if you want to write fantasy. You write what you read, and if you only read Sanderson you'll just be a much lesser version of him when you write. Cheers

    • @MetalGildarts
      @MetalGildarts 2 роки тому

      @@starmorpheus facts

    • @talea9593
      @talea9593 2 роки тому +1

      @@KrazyKyle-ij9vb I found Brandon Sanderson because I had finished reading Game of Thrones and so I started asking around for other epic fantasies.

  • @f.jansen9879
    @f.jansen9879 4 роки тому +34

    In college, I've never spend much time in the classroom...guess, this would have been very different with Mr Sanderson as professor! Thank you so much for uploading this!!!

    • @wyattarent857
      @wyattarent857 4 роки тому +3

      I've never heard a professor get applause. Brandon is a legend

  • @Ruthie888
    @Ruthie888 4 роки тому +19

    Brandon Sanderson, Thank you for your generosity to share your experience and knowledge. You didn't have to, but you have a generous spirit. Thank you! Also, I love how you repeat the questions we can't hear from the audience. Wonderful teaching. gush gush gush

  • @UsulJon
    @UsulJon 3 роки тому +27

    Top work B dog. The world isnt ready for the shitty novel you are giving me the confidence to write.

  • @zachvarwig3169
    @zachvarwig3169 9 місяців тому +2

    Brandons mastery of the subject matter really comes out in the Q&A. Just hitting home runs each time, with great examples for reference.

  • @JohngeeDoyle
    @JohngeeDoyle 5 років тому +123

    "And he got over himself and they got together."
    Sanderson casually explaining the plot of When Harry Met Sally...

    • @Asduuggee
      @Asduuggee 4 роки тому +4

      Welcome to America movie

  • @martinkanchev7569
    @martinkanchev7569 5 років тому +85

    I've always felt like anything and Pokemon would make an awesome book, especially in the arms of an experienced writer.

    • @troikas3353
      @troikas3353 5 років тому +25

      That Pokemon/Marley and Me mash up gonna ruin a lot of kids when it comes out.

    • @gunnaryoung
      @gunnaryoung 5 років тому +4

      It's Casablanca but with Pokémon!

    • @martinkanchev7569
      @martinkanchev7569 5 років тому +12

      @@gunnaryoung Remember the Butterfree episode?

    • @GluezCraft
      @GluezCraft 5 років тому +16

      Jim Butcher wrote a series based on a bet about mixing Pokemon with Ancient Rome. The series is called Codex Alera and it's one of the best 6 books I've ever read.

    • @isaachenry3739
      @isaachenry3739 4 роки тому +2

      @@GluezCraft i hated it ay haha tried so hard to get into it but felt so rushed and strange tbh

  • @jorgeenriquez637
    @jorgeenriquez637 3 роки тому +7

    Thank you so much for uploading this with subtitles. You're allowing foreign people that are not quite good in English (as I'm not) to learn.

  • @Vaivraza
    @Vaivraza 21 день тому

    A great thing Sanderson does is repeating the question, instead of answer it inmediatly, giving a chance to the other person to say "no, this is not I said" and otherwise to make it clear he is answering excatly THIS specific question.

  • @tommyinnes
    @tommyinnes 3 роки тому +7

    Imagine giving this a thumbs down. One of the greatest writers in the world is willing to teach us what he does, and how he does it, for free. And you're like, "Hmm, nah, no good." Impossible.
    Thank you, Mr. Sanderson. You are, quite literally, an inspiration.

  • @avanisangh
    @avanisangh Рік тому +1

    The fact that this is free is just incredible. Props to you.

  • @TheBookRefuge
    @TheBookRefuge 5 років тому +8

    I love this. Love how you explains how Romance fits in as well. The umbrella plot, and then the romance is what you are actually here for. haha! So true

  • @carolinalthoff
    @carolinalthoff 7 днів тому

    these classes are soooo good! he speaks so well! I’m really grateful that they are available for free. great work 👏

  • @Cryogenius333
    @Cryogenius333 4 роки тому +4

    "They kept waiting for the diversion to end. If you've ever been in a movie where you've been like I am SO BORED, even though exciting things are happening, cant they just get back to the main plot?
    ...
    Canto Bight"
    Love this man.

  • @AlanarTansden
    @AlanarTansden 5 років тому +12

    This is great. I sat glued to my computer and felt sad when you said we're out of time.

  • @pavelowjohn9167
    @pavelowjohn9167 5 років тому +69

    I just finished "Alloy of Law" and I can definitely see how the brainstorming process led to that story. "So, how about if The Adventures of Brisco County Jr. was mixed with an updated version of Mistborn?" Great book, can't wait to get into the 2nd and 3rd books. Bonus points for the 'Wax and Wayne' word play....

    • @patricksinger1029
      @patricksinger1029 5 років тому +1

      Scadrial doesn't have a move so it's even better.

    • @Evilwizard637
      @Evilwizard637 5 років тому +10

      i... cannot believe that wax and wayne as wordplay literally never dawned on me until this instant

    • @AmeliaOak
      @AmeliaOak 5 років тому +2

      I read that series. LOVED IT

    • @Mikeztarp
      @Mikeztarp 5 років тому +2

      @@Evilwizard637 Same here. Thanks, John!

    • @ryanb3665
      @ryanb3665 5 років тому +5

      Just so you know, there’ll be a 4th book in that series coming soon, according to Brandon. It’s not a trilogy, it’s more like a fun one-off (Alloy of Law) then a trilogy with the same characters (Shadows of Self, Bands of Mourning, The Lost Metal).

  • @fire_aspect_5142
    @fire_aspect_5142 4 роки тому +3

    When delivering a lecture, I find it important to keep a few things in mind:
    -Be Knowledgable
    -Be able to pass that
    Knowledge along
    -Be Funny
    -Be Honest
    -Be Detailed
    -Be Expressive
    Sanderson NAILS all of these. These lectures are perfection and awesome in the literal sense of the word.

  • @FusionLabsVideo
    @FusionLabsVideo 5 років тому +9

    This is the greatest thing new writers could watch. I would love to take this class just to be able to interact with the legend. The classmates at BYU are fortunate!

  • @Rpartin93
    @Rpartin93 4 роки тому +60

    The real payoff is the friends we made along the way.

    • @shinobi-no-bueno
      @shinobi-no-bueno 3 роки тому +1

      Journey Before Destination

    • @briangallagher3106
      @briangallagher3106 3 роки тому

      I feel like you’re joking but this is the truest thing ever. It could bring a tear to the eye it’s so true.

  • @梨-i5l
    @梨-i5l 2 роки тому +5

    The first I ever saw of Brandon was him making a weird statement at a panel, then the other 3 members explaining why he was wrong. Then it was this series. I've been recommended Mistborn by a friend too, so I am a little apprehensive I know too much going on, but his story sound genuinely awesome and I love his approach to writing. It is very true that no one is an architect or gardener 100% either, everyone is on a scale and works differently- the key is learning how to manage and support how your creativity, passion and joy comes naturally.

  • @danielburow8538
    @danielburow8538 5 років тому +53

    15:40 right as he goes for a drink the camera pans out to the no food or drink sign

  • @milklocket
    @milklocket 3 роки тому +29

    "And the this is the surprise I used for Mistborn-"
    *"Requiem For A Tower" plays in the background as I frantically press every button BUT the mute button in an attempt to not be spoiled*

    • @KrazyKyle-ij9vb
      @KrazyKyle-ij9vb 3 роки тому +1

      Bro you know that scene where Wayne
      *400Hz beep*

  • @Distant_View
    @Distant_View Рік тому +1

    This is seriously amazing, and convinced me to keep writing. Thank you Brandon.

  • @timmydidit
    @timmydidit 4 роки тому +6

    You just changed my life 7:10. Jim Butcher is my favorite author, and Codex Alera is my favorite series. I even have a tattoo with Codex Alera and the Dresden Files. Codex Alera got me back into reading; it was like breathing life itself after denying my own humanity. I don't think I can look at the books the same way now lol. When trying to get other people to read I always explained it more as Avatar the Last Air Bender, but fantasy.
    I had the most amazing experience with Jim maybe 9 or 10 years ago. I sent him an email asking if he would say hello to a friend who was also a big fan. I honestly didn't think he would do it, a famous author and all probably doesn't have time for random fan emails. He sent the email saying hello, and did something so amazing to this day it makes me smile. He sent me an unedited first couple chapters of his 13th Dresden File book. I got to see the changes from when the book was actually published and that version. I always struggled with spelling, grammar, and bad hand writing; so to see that version really inspired me to write my own short stories. I still write to this day, but never actually finished a full story.

  • @donewiththis-2012
    @donewiththis-2012 10 місяців тому +1

    I've been meaning to watch these lectures for a year now and finally decided to sit down and watch, they absolutely fascinating and so informative. At 40 minutes in roughly when describing Inferno and the compelling progress of it, and how even though it is episodic it makes you read on like a thriller. for 20 years my favourite sci-fi book has been Use of Weapons by Iain M Banks, no matter what I can always power through it. I remember the first time I read it, once I found the chapters alternating between moving forward and counting down that I realised there was going to be some end point where both parts collide I couldn't put it down. This just made it clear to me why!

  • @Akareh
    @Akareh 5 років тому +9

    Thank you so much for uploading these classes online. Even though I'm not a writer or necessarily want to become one in the future, stories have fascinated me since I was a child and knowing about the ways writers set up to build them has always interested me.

  • @ryahmesch
    @ryahmesch 4 роки тому +4

    I learned SO much from listening to this. The main take away- the ability to organize and focus my thoughts. While I listened, I took notes. I fleshed out loose ideas for my characters and I replayed a couple parts to really understand. A light bulb turned on for me, I felt like I understood what to give attention to and what aspects would make my story worth reading. I randomly decided I liked writing not too long ago, and no one around me has any interest in reading. I didn't know who to talk to about what the writing process has been like for me. I feel a lot less like I'm struggling along by myself and more confident that my idea and my writing is going to be worth the effort. So thank you.

  • @ChristoMac
    @ChristoMac 3 роки тому +9

    Great teacher, imagine if ALL teachers were this passionate, our country would be in a better place.

  • @elijahdaves1305
    @elijahdaves1305 Рік тому +1

    I have absolutely zero interest in writing anything myself, but I really enjoy seeing someone at the top of a craft disect their art. Thanks for the wonderful stories you tell.

  • @C3yl0
    @C3yl0 4 роки тому +3

    This professor is a gem. I wish to have someone like him as a professor, he really makes the class very interesting and outgoing.

  • @Alynnescape
    @Alynnescape 3 роки тому +3

    Thanks Brandon I’ve been following your lectures since 2014 and I can’t thank you enough for giving this to us without a paywall

  • @dinascott8815
    @dinascott8815 3 роки тому +6

    I am a programmer. Thank you for all of the programming references. (1:00:00-ish mark) I think you just helped me to understand plotting!

  • @sazvaed
    @sazvaed 3 роки тому +2

    It's an incredible honor to be able to listen to him on UA-cam. My favorite author of all times. Thank you, Brandon, for existing in this world.

  • @grand.lethal
    @grand.lethal 4 роки тому +4

    Such luck. I was just looking to rewatch the entire course videos (I watched the really old ones) and come to find a new higher quality version.
    Thank you so much Brandon for offering these for free. I do enjoy my time on Masterclass, Skillshare, and other UA-camrs. But these lectures are by far the most helpful I've ever heard.

  • @KryxtianCloud
    @KryxtianCloud 3 роки тому +2

    can't fathom how anyone would dislike this. thank you for the knowledge. I'm grateful!

  • @hardy3089
    @hardy3089 4 роки тому +4

    Not a writer by any stretch of the imagination but I am an avid reader and love Sanderson’s work it’s awesome to kinda get glimpse into his mind regarding how he approaches writing a story very insightful.

  • @Hoonters-goona-Hoont
    @Hoonters-goona-Hoont 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you for repeating the audience's questions, that's good lecturing form that tends to get forgotten easily.

  • @LEOrgill
    @LEOrgill 4 роки тому +4

    This video was so helpful. Lately, I've been feeling frustration towards certain stories with their plotting and I realize it was because I felt the progress was diverting from the promise of the story.

  • @scibanana3542
    @scibanana3542 2 роки тому +2

    "let's talk about progress for a little bit, because this is the most important of them, I think."
    Journey before destination, Radiant

  • @Avarn388
    @Avarn388 5 років тому +11

    I’m so happy you mentioned Jim Butcher and Codex Alera. I’m going through it right now am enjoying it. And one of the reasons why I checked it out was precisely hearing that story good writers can take the most insane idea and make it work. Just look at Stephen King?

  • @shelbymaalouf4261
    @shelbymaalouf4261 Рік тому

    I cant believe this is free! What a world we live in

  • @caseyoneil4616
    @caseyoneil4616 5 років тому +47

    Lord Ruler, I'm dying for the 3rd class!

  • @ZnaharDima
    @ZnaharDima Рік тому

    It does not stop to amaze me how these things seem so simple when someone voices them out. And yes, not hiding it behind paywalls is a virtue. Thank you so much!

  • @jacobfly6563
    @jacobfly6563 5 років тому +6

    Just started Starsight and have already gotten chills multiple times. Love the lecture videos.

  • @lialockhart7455
    @lialockhart7455 4 роки тому +1

    Been watching a bunch of these and I'm actually astonished by how much of what is said are things I already do, this is like the 6th lecture I've watched now and it almost feels like review. Scary.

  • @TCP2k10
    @TCP2k10 4 роки тому +12

    I listen to these lectures with a Lord of the Rings soundtrack on in another tab! It adds a fun element to these already great vids. Thank you so much for releasing these!

  • @InkAndSmudge
    @InkAndSmudge 4 роки тому +2

    I recently made the decision to cut my work hours so I could dedicate full time to finishing my book. I'm in the middle of my novel with a full guideline and have been working on it for 6 years. These videos have really helped me to commit to giving it time out of every day and working hard to get the draft 100% completed this year!

  • @Divinemakyr
    @Divinemakyr 4 роки тому +28

    Toph Beifong is definitely an "iconic character."

  • @ChurchWorshipandvideo
    @ChurchWorshipandvideo 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you for shouting out "While You Were Sleeping!" That's a wonderful story and a fantastic execution. It's a gem of a film and story.