Long experience of camping in a wet climate, I came to the conclusion that bigger was better. It's worth carrying the extra weight of a bigger tent so that you have room to move and cook, especially as you can be spending about 10 hours hiding from the wind and rain.
@@kayasper6081 not me. I truly hate every oz and cubic inch that I have to carry. If it's in my pack, it's essential, compact, lw, has 2-3 uses or tastes really good and offers lots of calories. I wear the reflective tyvek bivy as a rain covering and keep moving, but I"m 20 years too old to be out there for the "experience". If I"m out there, I'm either testing something or it's shtf.
I went on a camping trip last year and brought a 3x6m gazebo with me and had my swag set up in the centre of it. Wasn't expecting any terrible weather but got hit out of the blue with some strong winds and some decent rainfall. The wind was making the rain come in at such an angle that I wasn't safe from the rain anywhere I put the swag. It got to a point where all the tie down points on the gazebo had come undone and the gazebo was starting to blow away. I had to get up early hours of the morning to lower the gazebo to just above the swag height so the wind couldn't get up underneath and lift the gazebo. I'm pretty sure I had to tie down the gazebo to my car as the tie down points wouldn't hold no matter where I buried them.
The first night in the rain is not a problem. The problem begins on the second (and every subsequent) day if it keeps raining and you have nowhere to dry your tent. After packing it up, everything is wet, including the floor, which becomes a big issue on your next camping. And everyone on UA-cam avoids this topic like the plague (as if it doesn't exist).
What works for me is detaching the inner from my tent, and pack the inner and outer separately. It’s a little extra work, especially when pitching after a long days hike, but always worth it.
I love the sound of rain when I'm in my tent, it's also comforting as well, no one around in the rain to bother me. I hate it when its raining when its time to get up. I'm 79 now and not as supple as I used to be, getting myself organised in the confines of a one-man tent is no longer easy for me, I tend to grunt and sometimes swear a lot as I try to get sorted.
@@malcwhiteI’m 59 with arthritis. I struggle getting out the bed to get dressed, let alone off the floor in a tent lol It’s bad enough camping for a week in the rain when you are in a camper van. No fun at my age in a tent for days on end 😂
Never heard of this tent brand before, which I had known of them before visiting the US a couple months ago. I live in Australia, rain is rarely a concern, but weight is. Since water is scarce, you need to carry a lot of it. I carried 7L of water on my last overnight camp and drank nearly every drop over two days. All that weight adds up, so shedding weight everywhere else is essential (good news is you're always lighter coming out than going in!). I've been looking at trekking pole tents for a while, will need to add this brand to the shortlist!
Tents that can be setup and taken down inside of the rain fly are a godsend on multiple rainy days on the trail. I also take a tarp where I can break down and “shack out” my gear.
Lifeventure makes 3 sizes i got the large and it will not break in wind i use it as a wind blokker in high wind or as sun shade, i cant tell you if its any good in rain but i can surely tell you wind is no problem
Superb Steve , you're a natural to camera , succinct, and to the point , liked it immensely, and look forward to your next offering. Richie, Stourbridge, England.
I've been rough camping on and off for 55 years. There have only been a few times where camping in the rain was not exhausting, cold and damp all the way to the bottom of the pack. Those were all times when I had a tent with a rainfly under a tarp with a groundcloth with drainage prepared beforehand. One time I was with a group, some had enough experience to actually set up their tent. One guy put his tent in this perfect flat spot. That flat spot was the bottom of a half acre bowl. I was 1/3 of the way up the bowl, at an angle, between three young strong trees with all my layers of tent and tarp. They all laughed. I knew the tropical storm remains of Bertha ( '96) were headed up the coast. They all busted my balls about the extra prep I was going through and how I'd have to sleep on a hill. The rain came and stuck around for 16 hours with heavy winds. When it was over I had dry gear, I was able to string up my tarps and tent to dry them for the next round. But there were other times, with lighter packs that we ended up at the ranger station huddled around a wood stove drying our boots and socks, or arriving home exhausted, cold and wet and having 8 hours before having to be at work in the morning. I live in a brick home now.
I was glad to see you're tent had a floor Recently I watched 2 different campers neither's tent had a floor. it was a disaster after it rained for a while. They were sitting in a sea of mud. Ditching was useless.
I love that phrase “ wild camping “. Hopefully you can make to the USA and that’s pretty much all we have. We just call it backpacking. We have thousands of miles of trails and you can pretty much camp anywhere except in a few areas. Take care
Really enjoyed seeing your ingenuity and simple solutions to keep dry. Looked a good rucksack totally waterproof for clothes etc with a separate area for wet tent etc. Liked your calm and no nonsense commentary umbrella I agree with as a vital aid. Personally I go in my VW T6 ! But have aspirations to wild camp more like fantasy!
I multi day camp in UK and use a tent with a fly sheet. The tent does get wet and will not dry out. This however is not a big issue as it is no holding much water. I have a set of clothes to walk in which get wet then a dry set for in the tent. Its important to keep warm. Putting wet cold clothes on in the morning is tough but brisk walking will warm them. Wet boots is also an issue, waterproof breathable socks help. If it gets really bad i go hme and come back when the weather is better.
As part of a training course I and a group of others had (as part of a 2 day outdoor exercise) to find a location , using a grid reference which we got by solving clues, and make a camp using rope and waterproof sheeting ( which we had to carry in our rucksacks ). This was in winter and under heavy rain. We coped, didn’t die of hypothermia and the muesli, condensed milk with hot coffee the following morning was one of the most welcome meals I’ve ever had. I don’t think I actually slept but I certainly did the night after in a real bed!
When I was younger, I did my share of tenting in the rain. I’d be lying if I said that I missed it. As the owner of a 26’ travel trailer, I now identify as a “Glamper”.
I love the sound of rain so one day I decided to camp in the rain in my bivvy bag which I hadn't used in 10 years. I set up camp and got into my bag in the bivvy sack just before it started to rain. After about 15 minutes of listening to the rain in the dark I started to feel something cold on my right shoulder. Turning on my flashlight I discovered the floor of the bivvy was riddled with cracks in the water-proof plastic coating. The water encroached more and more as my bag got wetter and wetter and I got colder and colder as the night wore on. The most miserable night I ever spent except for the time I dislocated my shoulder.
watching this video, wondering if your videos always were in english and I didnt notice. figured out, nope ;) also subscribed here now; thank you for always great content
Cool. I use Euroschirm trekking umbrellas. No idea whether they are same good or better than your model. Yet, they write on their website that they tested them to windspeeds up to 150 km/h, and even though I cannot confirm that personally, I guess that works at least when the wind comes from front (where also the rain comes from). No idea what happens with side or rear winds, never wanted to try that 🤣but I'm so far quite happy with the models we use.
Thanks for the video. I have an umbrella that I got off Amazon. Very effective in the wind because it has vents which allow the wind to pass. Not ultralight though because over-engineered. Can you tell us why cooking in the tent vestibule is easier with gas than alcohol?
I like the tent you used and the waterproof skirt you wore-haven't seen that before. Many years ago I thought a gore-tex bivvy sack was the ultimate in light weight shelter but it was the same size as a sleeping bag and transitioning in/out in the rain was hopeless.
I used to love the sound of rain on my caravan roof - but unfortunately I rarely hear it anymore as it almost never rains where I live. I think last rain shower that was more than 30 minutes was back in February.
The best time i ever had in the rain is when i just let myself get wet. After that it just disappears from your awareness, and it's like it isn't raining. The problem is making a fire (start it before the rain starts and make sure you have lots of wood), and if it gets too cold. Otherwise, it's actually fun being wet!
Wet. That's the simple answer to the title. If it's also cold, very uncomfortable. A tent you can sit up in really helps, also if it's decently ventilated and doesn't let all the rain inside the moment you open it.
LOVELY video, the sounds of nature were truly calming and your information dealing with rain was inspiring. Thank you for sharing, stay well, stay safe....Stella, Helen and Katarin Juska-Law and Terri with Robyn (Eastern UK Fenlands)
I FEEL YOUR PAIN - REALLY I DO I spent a month at a time in the Alps October/November - Tent and all my food. SOLO Staying dry (and clean including shaving) is PARAMOUNT
I used to manage perfectly adequately with an industrial size plastic bin liner, but the real trick is to find somewhere reasonably sheltered to begin with and there's almost always somewhere reasonably dry if you know where to look. In fact condensation can sometime be more of a problem than the rain but you soon dry off when you get moving. That set up looks frankly ridiculous to me.
Almost everything has a solution in wet weather, like set up a quick tarp, bring more clothes or extra towels to dry yourself and everything else, skin warming creams and disposable hand warmers, but I haven't found any solution to dry shoes and boots. No matter how water proof they are, if water gets in from the top part, it remains wet for another day. Far worse of a problem in winter and longer journeys. How do you handle this? Is it even a problem for you?
valley as a place for your tent could kill you if sudden cold weather happen. Abscense of trees have a reason. It is a path of freezing air from the top of the mountains
Long experience of camping in a wet climate, I came to the conclusion that bigger was better. It's worth carrying the extra weight of a bigger tent so that you have room to move and cook, especially as you can be spending about 10 hours hiding from the wind and rain.
I fully agree. Since I went Hilleberg, it doesn't matter anymore if I have to wait days due bad weather.
@@kayasper6081 not me. I truly hate every oz and cubic inch that I have to carry. If it's in my pack, it's essential, compact, lw, has 2-3 uses or tastes really good and offers lots of calories. I wear the reflective tyvek bivy as a rain covering and keep moving, but I"m 20 years too old to be out there for the "experience". If I"m out there, I'm either testing something or it's shtf.
@@SonnyCrocket-p6hand miss the outdoors !!! That’s why you are out there
Run a marathon or something
I went on a camping trip last year and brought a 3x6m gazebo with me and had my swag set up in the centre of it. Wasn't expecting any terrible weather but got hit out of the blue with some strong winds and some decent rainfall. The wind was making the rain come in at such an angle that I wasn't safe from the rain anywhere I put the swag. It got to a point where all the tie down points on the gazebo had come undone and the gazebo was starting to blow away. I had to get up early hours of the morning to lower the gazebo to just above the swag height so the wind couldn't get up underneath and lift the gazebo. I'm pretty sure I had to tie down the gazebo to my car as the tie down points wouldn't hold no matter where I buried them.
@@j_edwards6075 I'm talking about a strong, roomy, two man tent, that you can carry in a back-pack, not a gazebo
The first night in the rain is not a problem. The problem begins on the second (and every subsequent) day if it keeps raining and you have nowhere to dry your tent. After packing it up, everything is wet, including the floor, which becomes a big issue on your next camping. And everyone on UA-cam avoids this topic like the plague (as if it doesn't exist).
Bring 3 tents
100%
Get a bigger packet of tissues, knob 😢
no problem as long as ur sleeping bag is dry and pad is waterproof
What works for me is detaching the inner from my tent, and pack the inner and outer separately. It’s a little extra work, especially when pitching after a long days hike, but always worth it.
I love the sound of rain when I'm in my tent, it's also comforting as well, no one around in the rain to bother me. I hate it when its raining when its time to get up. I'm 79 now and not as supple as I used to be, getting myself organised in the confines of a one-man tent is no longer easy for me, I tend to grunt and sometimes swear a lot as I try to get sorted.
Oh the gold of frustration in the outdoors and the pains of getting older. I hear ya and with you!
There's something comforting about the sound of rain on a well pitched tent. I'm 60 with arthritis so I am with you on the getting in and out
@@malcwhiteI’m 59 with arthritis.
I struggle getting out the bed to get dressed, let alone off the floor in a tent lol
It’s bad enough camping for a week in the rain when you are in a camper van.
No fun at my age in a tent for days on end 😂
I like how humble and down to earth you are and I find this video very peaceful and practical. I have subed
Oh man, i would sleep so hard with the sound of that awesome rain on my tent all night
Fantastic wee video>>>>can’t beat sleeping in a tent when it’s raining>>>>✌️✌️
me arse... that's like sying Glastonbury Festival is better when it's wet.
Never heard of this tent brand before, which I had known of them before visiting the US a couple months ago. I live in Australia, rain is rarely a concern, but weight is. Since water is scarce, you need to carry a lot of it. I carried 7L of water on my last overnight camp and drank nearly every drop over two days. All that weight adds up, so shedding weight everywhere else is essential (good news is you're always lighter coming out than going in!). I've been looking at trekking pole tents for a while, will need to add this brand to the shortlist!
Tents that can be setup and taken down inside of the rain fly are a godsend on multiple rainy days on the trail. I also take a tarp where I can break down and “shack out” my gear.
As someone camping in a country with a lot of rain (also in Europe), this helped a lot to not sleep wet the next time
Good one Steve. I like your rain kilt, I’ve not seen that before, thank you.
gave up on using umbrellas in my windy city a long time ago, thanks for pointing out there’s some that may still work. nice hike and video!
Lifeventure makes 3 sizes i got the large and it will not break in wind i use it as a wind blokker in high wind or as sun shade, i cant tell you if its any good in rain but i can surely tell you wind is no problem
Try Decathlon umbrellas.
Great video, I love your video style, a nice mix of seeing the camping experience as well as reviewing it. You are relaxing but informative to watch!
Superb Steve , you're a natural to camera , succinct, and to the point , liked it immensely, and look forward to your next offering.
Richie, Stourbridge, England.
Forgot to say , Subscribed and chipper I did😊.
That is a nice tent! I really love your videos. Hopefully you will be at more subs soon. take care Steve!
I've been rough camping on and off for 55 years.
There have only been a few times where camping in the rain was not exhausting, cold and damp all the way to the bottom of the pack.
Those were all times when I had a tent with a rainfly under a tarp with a groundcloth with drainage prepared beforehand.
One time I was with a group, some had enough experience to actually set up their tent. One guy put his tent in this perfect flat spot. That flat spot was the bottom of a half acre bowl. I was 1/3 of the way up the bowl, at an angle, between three young strong trees with all my layers of tent and tarp. They all laughed. I knew the tropical storm remains of Bertha ( '96) were headed up the coast. They all busted my balls about the extra prep I was going through and how I'd have to sleep on a hill. The rain came and stuck around for 16 hours with heavy winds. When it was over I had dry gear, I was able to string up my tarps and tent to dry them for the next round.
But there were other times, with lighter packs that we ended up at the ranger station huddled around a wood stove drying our boots and socks, or arriving home exhausted, cold and wet and having 8 hours before having to be at work in the morning.
I live in a brick home now.
I was glad to see you're tent had a floor
Recently I watched 2 different campers neither's tent had a floor. it was a disaster after it rained for a while. They were sitting in a sea of mud. Ditching was useless.
See at 6:20, tent didn't have a floor ! He laid something else down.
I love that phrase “ wild camping “. Hopefully you can make to the USA and that’s pretty much all we have. We just call it backpacking. We have thousands of miles of trails and you can pretty much camp anywhere except in a few areas. Take care
Really enjoyed seeing your ingenuity and simple solutions to keep dry. Looked a good rucksack totally waterproof for clothes etc with a separate area for wet tent etc. Liked your calm and no nonsense commentary umbrella I agree with as a vital aid. Personally I go in my VW T6 ! But have aspirations to wild camp more like fantasy!
A lot of demonstration videos don't film in really rainy weather. You did. Bravo!
Please think before you type, please.
Good informative video! Thanks, love your channel
I multi day camp in UK and use a tent with a fly sheet. The tent does get wet and will not dry out. This however is not a big issue as it is no holding much water. I have a set of clothes to walk in which get wet then a dry set for in the tent. Its important to keep warm. Putting wet cold clothes on in the morning is tough but brisk walking will warm them. Wet boots is also an issue, waterproof breathable socks help. If it gets really bad i go hme and come back when the weather is better.
As part of a training course I and a group of others had (as part of a 2 day outdoor exercise) to find a location , using a grid reference which we got by solving clues, and make a camp using rope and waterproof sheeting ( which we had to carry in our rucksacks ). This was in winter and under heavy rain. We coped, didn’t die of hypothermia and the muesli, condensed milk with hot coffee the following morning was one of the most welcome meals I’ve ever had. I don’t think I actually slept but I certainly did the night after in a real bed!
Cool film with a nice climate and I found many tips and ideas useful.
I subbed.
Thanks for sharing!
Fantastic. Very nice tent, also.
I thought so too until I saw it cost over $500.
@@Steve-tl7zo WTH, are you serious ????
Nice test of a new tent... perfect for that set up... cosy tent. Good time of year roo... not too cold, and not too hot.
Great video. Thanks for posting mate
Very good videography as well as explanations!
Great vid, Steve! 👍
Tarptent spotted!
I've only used mine in the rain once, and it felt spacious for a one-person tent, but nowhere near as spacious as my old Squall II.
I have backpacked for many years. I have never considered taking an umbrella. I don't believe it is worth the extra weight.
Way cool video! Beautiful landscape, them ghostly clouds.
Very nice video!! Cheers from new subscriber from the Netherlands 😊
really nice video! nice trip
When I was younger, I did my share of tenting in the rain. I’d be lying if I said that I missed it. As the owner of a 26’ travel trailer, I now identify as a “Glamper”.
I love the sound of rain so one day I decided to camp in the rain in my bivvy bag which I hadn't used in 10 years. I set up camp and got into my bag in the bivvy sack just before it started to rain. After about 15 minutes of listening to the rain in the dark I started to feel something cold on my right shoulder. Turning on my flashlight I discovered the floor of the bivvy was riddled with cracks in the water-proof plastic coating. The water encroached more and more as my bag got wetter and wetter and I got colder and colder as the night wore on. The most miserable night I ever spent except for the time I dislocated my shoulder.
Ever since i was a child camping in my backyard, sleeping in a tent while raining makes me fall asleep fast
I regularly listen to “rain on tent” playlists on Spotify to fall asleep 😂
@ Nice!
It is funny and impressive that you record everything in German and English. Great content.
Content is one of the words I've come to despise. Please, don't cancel me. Have a great day.
Great video!
How have you found the Berghaus hyper 100 performs with rain/wetting out etc?
Nice video mate!
watching this video, wondering if your videos always were in english and I didnt notice. figured out, nope ;) also subscribed here now; thank you for always great content
Cool.
I use Euroschirm trekking umbrellas. No idea whether they are same good or better than your model. Yet, they write on their website that they tested them to windspeeds up to 150 km/h, and even though I cannot confirm that personally, I guess that works at least when the wind comes from front (where also the rain comes from). No idea what happens with side or rear winds, never wanted to try that 🤣but I'm so far quite happy with the models we use.
i love rain camping
You've got a Tarptent. Anything is possible. We love the Double Rainbow. I helped Henry Shires develop it.
Thanks for the video. I have an umbrella that I got off Amazon. Very effective in the wind because it has vents which allow the wind to pass. Not ultralight though because over-engineered.
Can you tell us why cooking in the tent vestibule is easier with gas than alcohol?
I like the tent you used and the waterproof skirt you wore-haven't seen that before. Many years ago I thought a gore-tex bivvy sack was the ultimate in light weight shelter but it was the same size as a sleeping bag and transitioning in/out in the rain was hopeless.
waterproof skirt looked like a step above a garbage bag...
Wet camp. Nice video 👍🙂
awesome video. what is your backpack's base weight with all of your gear? Danke
Tarp and bivy for me now. Tarp can be configured in many ways and bivy is warmer in the cold with a lite down bag.
Great video bro!
The hours at the gym. love your video....
I used to love the sound of rain on my caravan roof - but unfortunately I rarely hear it anymore as it almost never rains where I live. I think last rain shower that was more than 30 minutes was back in February.
Wow! That umbrella can make your arm jerk like that, amazing! 😆
What's that backpack? Looks nice
Fun video. Thanks.
The biggest problem we found with rain in the Scouts was mud. Mud gets everywhere.
Like sand?
Lookup the STORMaxi umbrella. It can withstand windspeed up to 100 km/h. Nice vid!
The best time i ever had in the rain is when i just let myself get wet.
After that it just disappears from your awareness, and it's like it isn't raining.
The problem is making a fire (start it before the rain starts and make sure you have lots of wood), and if it gets too cold.
Otherwise, it's actually fun being wet!
Excellent stuff. Love that tent but sadly I've no plans to visit America any time soon
Wet.
That's the simple answer to the title. If it's also cold, very uncomfortable.
A tent you can sit up in really helps, also if it's decently ventilated and doesn't let all the rain inside the moment you open it.
LOVELY video, the sounds of nature were truly calming and your information dealing with rain was inspiring. Thank you for sharing, stay well, stay safe....Stella, Helen and Katarin Juska-Law and Terri with Robyn (Eastern UK Fenlands)
Which Tarp Tent model was your first choice? You mention this was not available when you visited the US……
I FEEL YOUR PAIN - REALLY I DO
I spent a month at a time in the Alps October/November - Tent and all my food. SOLO
Staying dry (and clean including shaving) is PARAMOUNT
I used to manage perfectly adequately with an industrial size plastic bin liner, but the real trick is to find somewhere reasonably sheltered to begin with and there's almost always somewhere reasonably dry if you know where to look.
In fact condensation can sometime be more of a problem than the rain but you soon dry off when you get moving.
That set up looks frankly ridiculous to me.
Probably the same as any other camping in the rain.
Unless you are in a camper with a bathroom and kitchen.
The tent should must be transparent to really feel that rain 😂
Eurochirm. Best umbrella period.
Great video! Well done. New follower here. Crow✌️
Really good camera work. Should make documentary 😊
Love rain love life love nature God loves me
I camped for three weeks along a small river and there was lots of rain . Never slept better with the air so oxygenated
sogar englisch jetze, sehr sehr geil!
Ive found it to be ok, as long as I have movies or survival books downloaded onto a kindle Fire reader.
the trees keep on dripping long after the rain stops. I just cover my tent with boughs or other debris and that prevents the impact noise on the tarp
Yep, mountain bikepacking in the rain is no fun! After a few hours you’re wet inside and out.
Lifeventure makes 3 size umbrellas i got the biggest and only use it as wind blokker it will not break or fold in high wind
Wearing shorts in those conditions. Legend.
Pants in wet conditions lead to chafing, not good, not legend, just practical,
Almost everything has a solution in wet weather, like set up a quick tarp, bring more clothes or extra towels to dry yourself and everything else, skin warming creams and disposable hand warmers, but I haven't found any solution to dry shoes and boots. No matter how water proof they are, if water gets in from the top part, it remains wet for another day. Far worse of a problem in winter and longer journeys. How do you handle this? Is it even a problem for you?
Sometimes its fine, other times it sucks, according to what kind of rain it is.
Come to Ireland you definitely won’t wonder what it’s like to camp in the rain! 😂
What's the dress thing you are wearing?
Like all wildlife, we pack up then scuffle away with out feet and look around to see what we did. XD
valley as a place for your tent could kill you if sudden cold weather happen. Abscense of trees have a reason. It is a path of freezing air from the top of the mountains
I love going camping… on youtube
You can see its quite spacious 😂😂😂
Nice!
Great channel
Nice videos good luck
What's it likr to camp in the rain ? WET !!
Umbrella Six Moon Designs Silver Shadow Mini
Wet-ish?
Na ja. Hier in Bayern ist selbst das Sauwetter noch erträglich.
Who else watches camping vids before sleeps
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Nice tent but fuck me $423? How do they justify that price for such a basic lightweight tent?
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as a minimalist it sucks
with lots of equipment it is tolerable
Hi ❤❤
Wet!
if it's gonna rain, I want to be in the cover of the trees so there's not as much noise from rain drops hitting my canopy-tarp.
There in absolutely nothing worse than trying to sleep in a wet sleeping bag. Cold wet and just sucks. I do not miss camping at all.
I'd love to know precisely which valley this is, if you'll divulge your secrets!
That thing looks like a Bear Burrito