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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2010
- With the opening of the new platform 3a westbound Central Line trains calling at Stratford (regional) station in London now open their doors on both sides.
In the video a National Express class 321* train is also seen passing through the other side of the older shared island platform.
*some viewers think that its a Class 317 rather than 321.
0:29 Love The Class 317 Sounds
The Central line 1992 Stock are my favorite stock, they have the best sounds imo :)
yes, and even though they are also held together with sticky tape they will be around for many years to come, as TfL cant afford to replace them. It is possible (not 100% certain) that they will soon be retractioned - which means that they will have new motors and control gear, as technology has advanced very much since they were first built. If this happens they will also sound different.
@@CitytransportInfoplus Even the floors come up on some of them now...
@@CitytransportInfoplus many underground Deep level tubes have a plaster tape
I've seen this at Morden on the Northern Line too.
SAME!
I live nowhere near Morden and never have time to go there
I think there is a place on the District Line where that happens as well.
@@louiejonesponation Barking, eastbound platform 1/2 (not 3)
@dctim well there is better access to several station exits and the low level lines (Jubilee + DLR Stratford Intl branch) from the new platform 3a.
But, I think that the most important motivating factor was (as you suggested) the Olympic Games and handling large crowds of people going home who must first travel towards Central London - and then interchange with other services.
Stratford is a very busy station during the rush hours. However, as you suggest, the platform was funded by the Olympic preparations. The doors are being closed more quickly now, probably because people are used to it, some drivers shut them all at the same time.
Great idea, very flexible!
It would make sense to be a Class 317, the front is straight, not sloped and has the interconnection walkway, it may have been on a transit from Ilford Depot to LLS :)
It's a class 317. The class 313, 315 and 317 look all similar and it's meant to be a class 313 but it was a class 317 instead. These trains are rare at Stratford.
It's meant to be a class 315. Sorry.
Only other thing I'm thinking, it's an empty stock movement from ilford Depot to London Liverpool Street?
Blake Meikle not rare, especially if they were hired.
FlorenceBallardA3060 and class 321s don't have that blue one livery well they have but Pale. That one was blue. So its and class 317. And class 317600 unit with the one livery
Why don't they just play the door closing announcement once and close doors on both sides at the same time or one after another? Here in Singapore, at stations with platforms where doors open on both sides, the door closing announcement is played once, then doors on both sides close, usually one immediately after the other but sometimes at the same time.
I think that sometimes the doors are simultaneously closed on both sides, but its not optimal because the train driver cannot watch both sides at the same time. This would be for safety issues, such as someone becoming trapped, a family being separated - especially important if small children are involved.
citytransportinfo i herd it had ssomethingto do with limitations of the train...
Hmmm... I noticed recently here in Singapore that some trains have started to play the door closing announcements twice when doors on both sides are open too. It's a rather inconsistent thing though - some do it, some don't. I think it's up to the train operator, but hopefully some day the train company can standardise on this.
+CraftHunterGaming - (Ong) Also at Joo Koon...
@class313 Yes, the two units are in different liveries and the entire train is travelling through platform 5 (towards Liverpool Street Station) without stopping.
@TrainSounds Hi there, I'm not sure if I understand your question.
Jubilee Line trains use the 'low level' platforms whilst Central Line trains use the 'high level' platforms
1:22 just listen to that
This is Stratford. Please mind the gap between the train and the platform. Change here for the Jubilee line, London Overground, TfL Rail, the DLR and National Rail services.
This is a Central line train to Ealing Broadway.
"Please allow passengers off the train first"... but the train, and the platform look deserted! I can see the point doing that announcement at rush hour or when the train's busy, but not now...
oh.. I've never been to either of those cities.
LOL!!!
Thanks for watching.
LOL!!!!!!! - Said Marco Kasse the first commenter on UA-cam
It's impossible to open or close both sides simultaneously on NYC Subway trains. When the train stops, the Train Operator(T/O) (in charge of driving the train to the destination, in the first car) has to press the left/right enabler button to give the Conductor(C/R) (responsible for door operation) the ability to open the doors. Most of our trains have a full width cab where the C/R can go to the other side without switching cars.The door controls are on the same side as the doors they control.
@citytransportinfo Opening the doors on both sides is cool thanx for posting this
I wish Stratford could be that quite now😢
possibly only on Easter Sunday as the law still requires shops to be closed in that day - and with Westfield closed far fewer people will come to Stratford station
@phimmai1 no - passengers board and alight from both sides.
On the older platform there is cross platform interchange with a different rail service, whilst the new platform is better for changing trains with the Jubilee Line and Docklands Light Railway.
BUT...
It may be that during the 2012 Olympic Games some type of passenger flow control is used. I've heard this suggested as an idea.
Simon
@BrunoMontezum Do you have film of these stations on UA-cam? I would like to see them, and feel sure that other people would be interested as well.
Simon
It is looks like Korean Airport Railroad(A'REX) All-Stop train's door.
@TheCatapultTV Nor at Golders Green (I'm not sure about Arnos Grove). The reason is probably related to the platforms being used for terminating trains and the doors only opening on one side to let people out onto the correct platform for an onward train and then in from the correct platform for trains tarvelling in the opposite direction.
Simon
free for all !!! it depends where you want to go after leaving the train, there is a range of different lines going out of Stratford or you might want to leave the station for the town or Westfields. One side is easier for say Jubilee and Docklands, the other side for National Rail or Westfields.
@Damoleary you should see what its like in the morning rush hour!
Passengers in the train have to contend with passengers boarding from both sides - trying to squeeze in.
It's definitely a class 317 because I saw the class 315 livery at the end and the 321 never had the one livery. Well sometimes, but if you see when the train passed, it's not a 321
One class 321 had the one livery
@@user-do2rj4sf8j but it's literally a 317, look at the rear face as it leaves
Lubdhak Das W i know its a class 317.
@@AM-qo2tj I wasn't talking to you
@@Great_WesternTVFan both accounts run by same person
@citytransportinfo Thats cool 2 see the doors open both sides
That's is a class 317, you can see the cab at the back and see the difference.
@JeffOrnstein01 Whilst it might be possible to close doors on both sides at the same time there is a greater safety risk in case someone becomes trapped in the doors but is not seen. So they have to be done separately.
Simon
hmm. Presumably it is the pneumatic system preventing both sets of doors being closed simultaneously, because it would only usually need to close one set of doors at each station stop, and using the same pneumatics for both sides will save money?
Is it just me or do other people use this as a way to get to the Elizabeth line platforms?
I do that - sometimes!!
What's so great about that? I almost missed the Olympics because I got off the train on the wrong side and was separated from the rest of the group. I then had to find everyone else from directions on the phone.
This happens a:
1. Stratford on the westbound central line
2. Morden
3. Barking on the eastbound district line
As far as i’m aware of, there is nothing else.
Golders Green northbound use to be like this too.
There are also few stations where there are platforms on both sides but normally these are tracks used by terminating trains and therefore the doors are only opened on one side at a time.
Trains which terminate at Barking only open their doors on one side and when the Barking Riverside London Overground extension opens the platform on the left which is shared with Goblin trains will close. Instead the Goblin trains will use platforms 7 and 8.
@@CitytransportInfoplus
1. I haven’t been to Golders Green before so why its not on the list. I didn’t see it.
2. I only saw Morden on a video on youtube so i dont know if they changed it
3. I know they kept Stratford, I went on a westbound central line last Monday.
4. I went on the eastbound district line at Barking yesterday so I know that is still there
5. Lets get back on topic of this comment
6. If they can open on both sides then why only 1 side opens even if its only terminating trains?
7. ‘Trains that terminate at Barking…’
Do you mean the H&C or the London Overground? With the eastbound district, you always know it never stops on platform 3 (the terminus one) because it keeps going to Upminster (unless its a Barking train). If its an eastbound H&C or district terminating at Barking, they have to stop at platform 2. If its the London Overground, it will always stop on platform 1 where doors open on 1 side only.
If only on platform 3, thr doors open on 3 sides
If only on platform 4, the doors open on 4 sides
And so on
I do believe thats a pair of 317s behind the 1992 stock there :)
Sometimes the central line the two sides closes all at the same time. The left and right hand side closes at the same time sometimes
The left door on the left & right side of the train close much faster than the right door on the left & right side of the train.
central line trains are so clean and good looking not like jublie or barkerloo lines
the jubilee is clean too. The bakerloo line is super dirty
@imrankhan2k9 i think 96 ts paintwork looks better than 92 ts. Though i like the big windows of 92 ts. I don't use the 92ts much but the 96 ts interior is in really good condition and is clean, i use the 1996ts at least few times every week and just used it twice today.
This isn't the only platform where doors open on both sides, they open both sides on the District Line Eastbound at Barking
@NZSupermathu For safety - the train driver must watch to ensure that no-one is trapped in the doors.
@Arriva2010 only westbound - there is no space to do this for eastbound trains.
Simon
Why cant all stations be like this! Stratford gets so busy!
I know is dumb to point out 10 years later but at 0:39 that was an class 317 not 321
Thats Class 317 on other side
@trevcab ditto Cockfosters - which has a station of a similar style, with three tracks and four platforms, one of which is not actually used.
Simon
@bronzeonion
Thats an interesting question - I suspect not, as the driver must watch the process to ensure that it is completed safely.
Simon
this might be old as hell, but thats a 317 in the back, not a 321 :P
Nice
@citytransportinfo its just that in the description you've put two class 321s passing lol.
cool!
Very nice !
@TheWebsterD I wish those buttons could be used to open the doors - especially on cold days at 'open air' stations.
As far as I am aware the buttons have no uses today - I've never heard of that 15 second delay request and would be surprised if it was actually so.
On the LU95 and 96, why did they cover up the door buttons?
Instead of leaving them disused
Search UA-cam for Sao Paulo subway.
It is an amazingly modern and efficient system.
With a lot of attention given to aesthetics.
So this is like another part to the station I take it? Ill see it on the 19th October :)
while it was stopping it sounded like a los angeles and washington dc metros
Look carefully! Pause at 0:45; I think we're both wrong. Might have been a class 317.
Is it one platform for boarding and the other for getting off, or is it just a free for all?
An easy way to get between platforms...
Wow. that took a long time! :D
@fkfj16 sorry dont know - all I can think of is that the driver may need to be watching them close
@daleksec53 geez, services have slowed enough already - what with the elimination of guards and on some lines lower track speeds and de-rated trains. But this would be useful at stations such as Bank where passengers could alight on one side and board from the other. At busy times splitting the passenger flows in this way should reduce stop dwell times.
If That Happened At Every Station, I Worked Out That It Probably Would Add An Extra 2 Minutes On To Each Journey From Terminus To Terminus
Hi there great video but isnt that a class 317?
OTrailvids maybe a 315 because I live on the Enfield line and 317s and 315s both come
At 0:38, that is not a 321, it's a 317/6.
Why the doors can't be closed simultaneously? The train does not allow it?
they do this at White City some times
@fkfj16 Because I imagine that if they close together they would have to open together aswell
@mryoheylol I've seen that happen... sometimes.
Simon
It's actually 317s in the background
@citytransportinfo We got the same thing in the subway of Toulouse, France.
@citytransportinfo Wast that a class 315 departing next to the 1992TS
That wasn't an NE class 321; it was an NE class 315.
@citytransportinfo I can imagine. It's bad enough with only one set of doors opening.
And that station has now spanish style.
@citytransportinfo
A very good answer to a very stupid question.
Not too many takers, then!
Is there a reason why both sets cant close at the same time?
@CZRichie I've seen that happen... sometimes.
Simon
Like in many stations hear in São Paulo (Sé, Brás, Corinthians Itaquera, Palmeiras Barra Funda...)
Same happens at White City when the train terminates there.
I got from yogcast to this !
Stand back from the platform until the train has stopped sir. As H&S in England has gotten rediculious, Drawin would be ashamed!
@CZRichie they don't know about multi thread programming LOL
Do a search for Elizabeth 2 go ripple effect
Wow..why
yea its a class 317
@mrwacca1 god damn trainspotter.
Where do Jublilee Trains stop on?
The jubilee lines stop at down at the escalator close to platform 3a
TrainSounds low level
What 3a?
where r d passengers??
It's the off peak quiet hours
those doors could decapitate someone
Lol been on this platform
Old footage
@CZRichie it's 2 dangerous
dat ATO.
A reminder just that ur trains are to small. Maybe u should make them bigger? :)
rayne Cheong only the tube trains - the subsurface trains are much larger! Its down to money; when the first of the small profile tube trains were built the companies which built them had to fund everything themselves and smaller tunnels were less expensive to build. btw, the Glasgow Subway trains are even smaller than London's tube trains. Other cities which have two sizes of underground / metro / subway trains include Berlin in Germany and Budapest in Hungary.
citytransportinfo i paticulatly like th Jubilee Line. It is fast
+citytransportinfo 64
Rayne Cheong I
their us cities
class 315 lah
nice :)
chew chew
Its a class 456
It can't be. Class 456s don't run on lines without the third rail.