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May I once again express how much I love Joy? She has a lightness about life, in my opinion, is the key to a long life.
She's a witch, sweety. Stop living in cuckkoo land.
“I don’t want anyone in my house” - Whoopi Goldberg 😂😂😂
@saramill2097she love that!
Why would anyone want to be in her house?
@@vincentbaca790 Why not? She's a nice person.
That part!
These woman have no worries
Joy, that's hilarious. "A fish without a bicycle. "
That saying is as old as the hills.
Joy.always upgrades topic with her insights and humor
I think the ultimate goal is happiness 😊. Not married, not a person, a person doesn't make you happy.
Agree...
Finding that someone to love is a miracle . You don’t find love ,love finds you weather we like it or not .Very grateful for the people I loved and loved me back !
I've loved...just won't marry...
Marriage is not for everybody. I was 14 yo when I decided never to walk down the aisle and I kept that promise to myself. My life has been peaceful and joyful because of that decision. I fill my life with people and things I enjoy such as friends and lovers, career, travel, pets, creative endeavors, etc.
I made that decision when I was 8...enjoying my life to the fullest!!
👏💯🏆
I am convinced after living a long time that men want someone to manage a home for them so they don't have to and they can go out and do whatever the heck they want to. If I had my life to live over again, I honestly would not get married. I am a woman who never wanted children and I did not have children. I had a 10 year marriage that I enjoyed for the most part, but left because my husband and I were going two completely different directions. I have had a great life. There are plenty of women in the world who are willing to put up with men's BS and who want children. So as far as I am concerned they can carry the torch for motherhood and wifedom. Having a husband is not a goal for me. That is what I have learned.
Amen to that!
I respect that, I am in a City in a Country that I LOVE yet adults settle down young and do not socialise as much as I need considering I am single without family. I am seeking companionship, not children so I wait.
💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯 I don't mind cleaning up as I'm one of those who loves to tidy up. BUT I don't like a sense of entitlement, expectation. I need appreciation, something a lot of men just don't know how to express. I think in all my 51 years of life, I've heard less than half a dozen "thanks" from either my dad or brother. And guess what? They taught me that I don't need a man in my life. No love, no thanks, no nothing. I'm just glad I'm the type that loves to live alone and never wanted kids. I have my fur babies and that is MORE than enough.
@@jungersrules Exactly. I think men are only good for one thing for the most part and I can't mention it here. lol!
Another victim of feminism. My heart goes out to you.
Joy’s quote was hilarious and I remember hearing it before back then. Loved her thoughts on love, I’m always happy when she comes back on Tuesday after her day off.
I love it when they talk about relationships I can’t say it enough it gives me hope!! They’re so relatable in this discussion!
They are all married except Whoopi!
@@davidc3943 😂true!
Here's a thought. Ignore what society deems normal and what is expected. Listen to your heart and follow that. Marriage and or partnerships are not for everyone. After I gave up trying to find that someone (because it was expected and not what I wanted) I flourished. It's been over 20 years of being single and living alone. They've been the happiest years of my life. Yes this lifestyle is not for everyone. The only real negative I've experienced is people judging me because I'm single and never married. It doesn't mean there is anything wrong with me, that I need fixing or that I'm less of a person. You want to get married? I say go for it! You want someone in your life but not in your house. I respect that. You're an introvert and prefer to live alone in peace and quiet. I say well done and good for you. Let people be themselves and quit judging them on relationship status or the number of friends they have.
Thank you so much for this! I’m an introvert and being in a relationship is hard for me so I try because everyone else is doing it but it still doesn’t work naturally. I’m glad that there is someone else out there that doesn’t make me feel bad for being in my 30s and unmarried without kids!
@@ericasexiiHi Erica! I am also an introvert and I also feel like being in a relationship will be hard for
Me. Sometimes I get discouraged because it seems like everyone is marrying young and having children
@@ericasexiiI feel you girl. 32 and feeling all those things. You aren’t alone ❤
Great comment
I don't believe you are happy being alone if you are mainly focused on yourself. People were not built to be happy when selfish
Loving where you are in the present moment will always be what’s most important ❤️
I'm from the 🔮 future...
I never wanted to be married or give birth, which is why I never did either. There truly are women in the world like me that value their independence. Even when I am in a committed relationship, I still have to feel I have some level of freedom.
There really is a difference between WANTING a man, and NEEDING one. Do I want one, especially if it's storming and I need to be held? Yes. But truly I don't need a man. My friends and family finally get it.
I dig...
Very well said and I am glad your friends and family finally get it.
I just love this show . Especially JOY!!! So funny and smart and brave . Joy!! Love you !
You need help these women are clowns
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Worst show ever
Joy literally makes the show as successful as it is! ABC owes her many thanks for it's years of ratings gold!!! 👍
brave ahahahahahahaa
The ultimate goal in life is to just be happy.
Agree, especially when happiness is temporary...
agreed
My family thinks me not wanting more kids (I have 1) is me "lying to myself" cause God who doesn't want to be married with kids and have a million ppl to take care of 😒 I'm lazy and can barely take care of myself and barely survived taking care of my son on my own, thankfully he's grown and we made it 😅
Do what you like...your family is insane...
I have my own money and I love being by myself, no kids. Just a fur baby. Bravo to Sunny for not torturing herself over her mom's angst.
You are going to be an old cat lady who will regret money over family.
@@davidc3943better to be a happy cat lady than an internet troll.
Poor sad wittle men like you who can't cope when they find out how unnecessary some women find them.
@@davidc3943That’s YOUR fantasy.
@@agf1700lamest comeback I have ever heard. Try again jizzabelle
@@davidc3943 You sure seem awfully obsessed with these women and their lives and the various comments. Maybe go find yourself a life and make something worthy of yourself.
Very relevant for my life. My family has such expectations and I have been fighting them back. This topic should be talked about more often for ALL to get on the same page.
My grandmother, who divorced my grandfather after ten years and six children, once compared men and life as spaghetti. "Life is spaghetti and men were like meatballs. Spaghetti is satisfying all by itself- Meatballs adds protein - which makes you stronger, but you don't need it."
Thank you for your candor. I find it to be quite amusing.
Don’t think that every one of these cackling hyenas other than Whoopi, is married…to men!
Your grandmother sounds like Madeline Kahn from Blazing Saddles..."I'm tired, tired of being alone....
like how these women are pretty much non judgmental of any lifestyle that doesn't harm others. . its the only way to think in the modern age.
These woman judge anybody that doesn’t think like they do. Wtf are you talking about?!
Gonna have to say it, but I agree with Sara here. I think goals are subjective. People have different views on what things are accomplishments or goals and that's okay. I think it's great to be able to stand on your own but I also don't think it's a failing to desire companionship or feel the need for that in life. Human beings are social creatures. So, for a lot of people companionship of all kinds is part of the human experience. Nowadays people are so quick to minimize the need or importance of companionship and relationships of all sorts but the stats on loneliness tell a different story. In the end do what works for you but remember it's perfectly normal to desire to connect to other people whether it's through friendship or romance.
In the end...we are all alone......Arthur Diettrick, Barney Miller...
I laugh at Sara's relationship advise as she is a born people pleaser and was on a husband hunt. She married a condescending partner where she gives her power away to him yet claims to be a feminist. Hypocrite.
Over the years I have come to terms with being single. In my twenties, I wanted companionship and marriage. Also then, I dated a guy during college who wanted marriage and children but he wasn't a good provider so I gave him an ultimatum. I didn't like his frivolous ways with money or his attitude on life. He threw a couple of tantrums and derogatory phrases at me so, I said I can't marry you and left. Thankfully, we were not cohabiting.
In your 30’s when your ovaries are shriveling up, that family thing will come back to your head, and it will be too late.
@@davidc3943Not true. Getting a dog or two fulfils that void nicely!
@@agf1700no it won’t. You are getting advice from 4 women who are currently married, a 3x failed marriage in Whoopi. Tell me who is the most bitter one out of these women?
@davidc3943 Wow, how misogynistic of you. If someone is on the fence about it, they can freeze their eggs, or if they have fertility problems they can get an egg donor, do surrogacy, or adopt.
@@davidc3943No it won’t you incel. First of all, ovaries don’t shrivel up (like your parts clearly have) in your 30’s. My sister had all 4 of her children, with zero problems in her 30’s. And secondly, many women, do not ever want children, or marriage ever.
"Misery loves company". Be happy doing what you love & you won't regret being single.
We love Whoopi, she's done it all so she's over it. She's been married three times and just figured it's not her cup of tea.
Yeah ... they all failed
She is a failure when it comes to marriage.
@@davidc3943 yup. And now she has even more free time to enjoy her life, count her millions and laugh at her haters 😂
@@jthomasmackshe is enjoying life by bitching every day in the camera. Lmfao!!! Yeah! So much fun!
@@jthomasmackno man cares about Whoopi’s money. Count it. Bet it was a man who created this show and gave her a job. Lol
It is the same for men too I have 2 degrees and work full time as an optometrist and yet my family still ask where is my girlfriend and when I getting married it is annoying I no longer attend family gatherings
Women nowadays, and it clearly shows on this thread, say that they don’t need or want a man. Why would you give up your potential for these dead beat women who don’t deserve anybody good?
@@davidc3943 I never have and.never will...
I don’t think that is true! You also need purpose in Life not just a husband.
@saramill2097lmfao!!! “I should have worked on that project for another day longer!”
It doesn't have to mean kids though, a career would do it, and at least you get paid for it, instead of slave labor.
I'm happy being single.😊
Joy is hilarious and correct about the fish and bicycle analogy.
joy is repulsive and ignorant of anything that matters.
That saying about a woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle is ancient. It was coined in 1970.
Love it when the ladies sing!!!
Marriage without children seems like the best way for me. When children are added to the mix, it often becomes oppressive for both parties but especially for the woman. Too many married women are glorified slaves to everyone in their household. I’ve seen it time and time again. The husband does as little as possible concerning child rearing and housework. The woman is exhausted all the time but the husband who does very little wants a porn star performance. The woman also has a job so now he wants her to contribute financially. There’s a lot wrong with this picture. I tell women all the time that if he won’t contribute to all aspects of their lives, they should refuse to share ANY of their money with him. No healthy not disabled man is living off of me. You can’t have it both ways.
I know right 😒 that's about the size of it 🤔
Silly viewpoint.
Whoopi skin is GORGEOUS!!!
@saramill2097stay broke, troll. 😂
U2 used that saying in their song
🎶Arms around the World🎶
A woman needs a man
Like a fish needs a ...🖒
MUCH LOVE to ALL my SISTERS🕊
I am in my mid forties and would love a life partner, but the right guy has yet to be seen.
So, he's the invisible man...Claude Rains?
Joy is so funny. She really made me laugh.
Seek help, now!
To each their own, finding partnership is a wonderful thing if that's what you want.
Exactly
Whoopi tried it at least 3 times and knows it’s not for her anymore. Sara’s emphatic words were so very heartwarming .
I can see why it didn’t work.
@@davidc3943 just curious, what do you mean by that?
@@davidc3943 WTF is that supposed to mean
@@batgurrlIgnore him. He’s an incel with a deep hatred of women ESPECIALLY strong independent women.
@@rhondataylor66bitter old woman. She is a loud mouth on this show. Just think how she is at home.
Or maybe falling in love and having a caring, loving spouse is important for both men and women.
Like Alyssa, I always wanted a romantic partner - from the time I was little, that's what I wanted, I never had baby-fever. Well I ended up choosing the wrong guy and we divorced. I can tell you that even today, single women are often invisible, not invited out with their coupled-up partners and seen as lesser than, *especially* if you don't have kids or a high-powered career. Generally speaking, society seems to think you have more relevance if you are part of a couple, have children or are career-focussed.
Spinsters rule.
Especially when they feed of each other like these here!
@@duncanbauer7309they're literally all married except for one, smart guy
A mate isn't the ultimate goal in life, but men and women need each other. I know I just cussed 😮
Right, it's not for everybody. It depends on the person.
what Joy said was almost poetic. she said it perfectly
bicycles can get any fish anytime "There's a Lot of Fish in the Sea"🤣🤣
Gosh darn it Whoopie! I recognized the song, and when I saw Miss Marlena Dietrich sang it, I knew exactly which one it was. However, I also found a version of Falling in Love Again by the AMAZING Miss Nina Simone and gave it a listen., and love it like everything I've heard her sing!
What about, We'll Meet Again" by Vera Lynn?
It's not a goal for me at all. Never married and no kids. FREEDOM 🎉🎉🎉 PEACE OF MIND 🎉🎉🎉
I'm with Whoopi. She knows what's up with how to live well
Well I will tell you that I am a 28 year old male who is waiting for True LOVE to walk into my life. I have my career intact, a group of friends, who I adore, and most of all self love however, the one thing that I can definitely say that is missing in my life is a person to share all of those things with and I want to say that I’ve been single since 2014 and have only been on 1 date since 2016. That is by choice because everyone in my age group doesn’t seem to know what they want or even know who they truly are. So saying has been difficult for me. But I am trying to remain optimistic that one day I will find the love of my life
You sound like an honest man. I hope you find a woman who loves you and fulfills your wish to the best of your abilities
Praying for a good, honest, non-toxic woman for you.
I pray God will send a Virtous woman to you. Please, NEVER settle, there are great women out there and I am sure in due season you will find yours.❤
Having a man is cool- companionship BUT I’m cool by myself. My son is grown.🙌🏽
I love this show. Thank you ladies of The View :)
Call it Ladies of the far left, no balance, who cares ! I think they’re losing respect by not coving issues, they maybe nervous about discussing. Sunny never stops, but afraid of the issue taking place with Our President & Son! Grow up! Be fair.
My relationship with my bf is coming to an end. He wanted to be married and I was indecisive. My parents are divorced. My dad remarried and has a lackluster relationship. I am absolutely terrified of living in an unhappy home. Whether it be me or my partner who is unhappy. Companionship was the ultimate draw for me, but I feared that my bf would fall out of love if I couldn’t become more domestic. Our relationship was not bad though. I just fear marriage and cohabitating would be miserable.
Than end it and stop dragging it out.
Go with your gut. That’s the best advice one can give. If you don’t feel right about it and it’s not something you ultimately feel GOOD about, then don’t do it. In the end, it’ll prob be for the best for everyone ❤
Dont be silly. U love him? He wants to marry u? And u dont know if u want to marry him. Do HIM a favor and leave him, but please dont sit there like a sad puppy. Go to therapy and get the help you need so you could be a woman that is worth marrying worth committing to not this indecisive person. Do you think it's fair for you to be in a committed long-term relationship when you know that the ultimate goal for him is to be married but yours is not because you're too scared? Everything is scary life is scary he could leave you he could cheat on you he could die you could die you could fall out of love with him a lot of things could happen but this is life so you're going to stay single and alone and unhappy and fulfill your life with career goals in creative activities and find a baby at a sperm bank and need a modern day woman that dont been a man? Girl. You said it yourself your relationship is not bad, and you want to give it up to be single in the streets where thousands of women pretend to not need a man but I desperately lonely and want a baby and a husband? Comon
@punies24 letter stay on the path she wants but I agree cut the guy free and inform every man she possibly gets with that he does not need to take their relationship seriously she is just a place holder till he finds something better.
Stop dragging my heart around...Tom Petty/Stevie Nicks..
I don't think that having a man is the ultimate goal. Men are more trouble then what they are worth anyway. I wasn't one of those women who dreamt about their wedding or having kids, I love my alone time. I always thought marriage was a joke anyway. I liked what Whoopi said at the end "And I don't care" 🤣
I don’t know if it is rude or just totally out of place that a cohost would act so bored and so uninterested I’ve never seen this on TV
Thinking the same thing.
I wish they'd pay me 8 million to be bored....
I think it is sad that society looks down upon the single. We all want some version of companionship. Not selling my soul or writing in my sleep every night waiting for it however.♥
Salvation is the ultimate goal in life and it’s very easy. Is it hard to become a Christian?
Romans 10:9-10
“That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with your heart you believe and are justified, and with your mouth you confess and are saved”
I can relate with the woman in the end. I want a husband, but I’m not sure about kids
My whole thing is that I’m going to do what I want, when I want and other people can choke on their expectations and opinions. If you aren’t happy for me no matter what I have going on in my life, then I don’t need you. Nobody’s opinion matters more than my own.
Learn to love your life the way it is. Be content. Man and woman is the the proper order. ❤
Nope. Only lonely men say this. I’m living stress free and have fewer grey hairs and slim because a man isn’t stressing me out everyday. Oh yeah and I’m disease free because I’m not catching an STD from a cheating husband.
I can’t think of anything i’d want less. Committing yourself to one D, no thanks! 😬
So prostitution?
If prostitution was legal, men wouldn’t need women for a relationship.
Al Bundy put it best..." why do I want milk, when I got a cow at home?" LMAO!
This was a fun discussion and no putting other women down.❤❤❤
Not for one minute do i believe Sunny wasn't looking for a husband
Bull she's acatholic girl. She was looking fora husband since she was young.
Sunny came with a coupon...
Exactly! He has to be a doctor because her mother's dream has to be fulfilled. She also told her shy boyfriend, no divorce ever. She lied there.
Educated, financial and emotional secure women do NOT need men in their lives to be successful. Having a man may be a want but NOT a need.
Wow. After reading these comments, I realize how shallow and ignorant people are. There are things about life and living that I instinctively knew, I went with my gut and didn’t let my “little head” do my thinking. After my first marriage fell apart (8 months) I decided to wait until a mature woman had concluded her goals in life. @ age 36, I met such a woman. It’s not the best sex or the best looking. She can’t cook, she can’t keep a home…but she cares about me…and that’s the most important thing. No children. No relatives to worry about. Just us.
Whoppi always bored with most topics and only doesnt contribute ,its so annoying everyone should contribute whether u like topic or not
I have been married and divorced twice - never able to have kids. During my working career, in government finance I was often questioned - what, no kids? do you like kids? you just need a man! are you gay? Always having been an artist, I remember after my second divorce setting up my easel in my little apartment kitchen and feeling relieved to not hear - what's for dinner? when are you going to put that stuff up? time for sex (even after arguing all evening)? About half of my married friends have good marriages with successful kids. The rest of them, smh I'm glad I never had kids and glad I'm not married. Thank goodness these days single (or different) people and lifestyles are more acceptable
For the NEEDY/CODEPENDENT, YES!
No because 2 parent household is stable and better for children.
@@davidc3943 that’s IF you want children
@@davidc3943no, not better except if those parent are great parents, there are too many toxic homes.
Being in a long term committed relationship is a goal.
My goal is to be happy
Nice goal, but happiness, like everything in life is temporary...
that green blazer is fire darling 😍
I love when Whoopi doesn’t engage…
Gee, that never happens....
Men and women need each other
Ummm… this makes me think why most men are angry at women these days.
As a wife and mother it is my hope and dreams that my children all have wonderful lives and get married.
Just wish them wonderful lives. Period. One does not have to get married in order to have a wonderful life.
@@jgator6694No, you do what you want to do with yourself and/or your family and
I will do what I think is best for myself and my family. Thank you and bless your little heart.
@@eatd2059 LOL. You can’t make your kids get married. Of course you can do what you want with your life…and your kids can do what THEY want with their lives. I am simply stating what should be obvious…many people remain single and live wonderfully happy lives. Society (and parents) should not pressure anyone to marry. Enough said.
@@jgator6694notice how it’s the single people, who are bitter towards married people. And they say they are happier lmfao!
Why can't they just have wonderful lives? Why does marriage HAVE to be included to find happiness and success?
We love whoopi goldberg
No we dont
The Media says yes .. but reality is far different
as a 45 years old woman who had children in her forties after achieving a successful career i can tell you children trump a career ANY day. it’s a more difficult job than any other i’ve held but the experience of growing a human in your body and later watching them grow milestone by milestone is unlike any other feeling. it’s unparalleled and telling women different is a great disservice. i’m so happy i wasn’t too late but i almost was.
That's you though, the beauty of this world is that we are different, different wants, needs, desires, aspirations,goals. You would have regretted it if you didn't have your kids, but there are many who genuinely don't want it and they are in their golden years, Helen Mirren is a great example, she never changed her mind because she NEVER has no maternal instincts. I could remember my mother saying how crazy is a woman having more than 2 kids intentional because she just couldn't wrap her head around it and her best friend has 9 amazing kids,the least smart and successful is a pharmacist,7 of the kids were valedictorian, still her opinion of many children did not change.
We want what we want and it's all good
@@olusolaoyadina5187 I agree with you, different strokes for different folks BUT if i had to give a blanket statement- most women want children and some even think they dont but when they have them they realize how wrong they were. What i think is dangerous is not conveying that to other women. Having a career is great and even necessary for some (like me) but not the same as having children. Your career isn't there for you on holidays, special occasions, or your death bed. I don't hear a lot of this sentiment out in the media and some women don't realize how important this is/was/could have been until its too late. Unfortunately we cant have kid at any time, our biological clock does tic and the worst feeling is that of regret specially when its too late.
happily married father of five here. yall can make all the excuses you want, there is no substitute for a partner in life and the joy of children. the amount of hate and hypocrisy that comes from this show and is spread on its viewers is disgusting. i hope yall find yoyr sanity and quit believing this garbage
That’s just your opinion only
No it is not everybody's ultimate goal. Ultimate choice..... Big difference
Fun topic. Now I'm stressed ugh the pressure lol
Whoopi is the best😊 I have to say now retired and single again, still trying to figure out how to pay for stuff...two incomes and companionship would have been nice
Sara is so freaking funny haha
Why is Whoopi present if she doesn't care?
Not the ultimate goal for me
Not the ultimate goal for any sane man or woman...
I’m very monogamous and once gay marriage became legal I did get married. Unfortunately I married a cheating narcissist. Bummer.
Any poor man married to any of this lot,is now regretting it.
This is absolutely true...
It's stupid to say our hunter gatherer ancestors didn't need men. Even lionesses do most of the hunting but they need the lions for the big kills- buffaloes. They all act as a team. Men and women need each other.
Edit: I'm not saying women MUST get married, just that society is easier when we work together.
With the exception of Sarah and Allyssa, what sane man would date or go out with these women, least of all, walk down an aisle and say, I do?
I love being on my own. My lover has his place I have mine. Chelsea Handler is my hero
I like her too...
this message is for black women to keep pushing out black men
I’m with Sarah!!
Oh it’s still a thing. People still consider being single as failure.
Not me...
@@vincentbaca790 you don’t represent anyone. Don’t make generalizations all about you.
If one’s main goal in life is finding a mate to love, enjoy life and share life with, what’s wrong with that? Capitalism truly has destroyed so much not only our environment but social fabrics. When we die, our Mercedes, fancy clothes, great jobs won’t matter. The love we shared with others and received will be the only thing that matters
That's what they are saying, there is nothing wrong with wanting and finding love, no sane person will say loving and being lived is bad; the other side is it's OK to not want to be in relationship as well, not to fear married just to please the society, being in relation for wrong reasons is the worst thing ever, it's too toxic. People should do what makes them happy irrespective of people's opinion, we have a very short time on this earth to waste a second.
My main goal in life is to never have a spouse.
I dig...
I am soooo happy not having a bicycle!
I really feel sorry for whoever is married to joy behar.
. can imagine her flying around al night like a well tuned " HARPIE " ??
I did marry someone younger.
I didn't ( thank heavens)
I want to get married . Because I want to not because I need to or I am afraid of being alone . I don’t want children . At 28 I removed my fallopian tubes no regrets .
seems the comment section is a reflection of the dried up lonely and hateful view cast itself
Rather be single
Who would want to wake up to any of these "women"?
This! 😂
Don't know. These women are frighteningly awful.