Many people now are so dumb about minivans. They outclass any SUV so much when it comes to hauling people. Parents back in the 80s and 90s had the right idea buying them by the millions. Nowadays they're just not "cool" enough and supposedly an SUV is - never mind they're compromised as a family vehicle by comparison. If you're consistently moving five or six people around minivans are the best thing ever.
As much as i love vans, they have a HUGE marketing and image problem, at least in the states. That stigma doesn't exist in much of Asia for example, so this problem should hopefully be fixable.
@@ciello___8307 Minivans Defintely aren't slow, but they're not really fast either. It would be so interesting if a performance light variant were to be released, like a Kia Sedona N line, an Odyssey Type R or a Pacifica SRT
I knew I became a real adult when 1) old spice after shave started smelling good and 2) I began love minivan reviews and bought my own Odyssey. My wife and I love your family reviews. 🦄
Have a single friend who bought a Honda Odyssey. All her friends asked her why she would get a family hauler like that being its just her and she said that it was a guarantee that she'd get invited whenever our group got together to go out and do something. She had the logical people mover!
The Odyssey is one of the best minivans out there, but there's no way I'd ever pay 50K for one. Ever. Just not worth the money. Even the higher trim models are filled with cheap, low-end plastics and materials, and fit and finish are hit and miss. Overall reliability is pretty good, though, as my sister literally drove the wheels off one. So, I guess there's that.
I would only consider a hybrid or PHEV moving forward, especially on a large vehicle. This eliminates the Odyssey, despite the fact that I like the sliding second row seats. As much as I really like the design of the Pacifica, I don't trust Chrysler/Fiat. The Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid is eliminated due to the recent recall over fire risk, raising questions about possible design or component quality issues. I would not buy a vehicle that might burn down the house... why I also don't trust Hyundai/Kia, who also have recalls over fire risk. Toyota has a long history of reliability and is the leader with hybrid technology, so Sienna hybrid wins by default. I had concerns about the non-removable second row seats, but it has been suggested that they slide all the way forward to behind the first row seats, which should make removing them less important for cargo carrying purposes.
From a former finance manager of a Honda dealership, your review was spot-on! I remember having to study endless product information videos when I started out as a salesperson and it became a mundane (yet necessary!) process. You've summed up hours of information into a short and very detailed video! (Also a huge fan of your LA flights!)
You can easily turn off the VCM. Just Google : VCM muzzler. There a number of companies that make them. I bought mine on eBay for about $75 and it took 5 minutes to install. Look at some of the Odyssey forums. It's highly recommend that you disable that feature for long term reliability. Hope that helps.
@@thecavsloth9760 I know. Very familiar with it. But honestly, I have no appetite to deal with this stuff. VCM should not be there to begin with. And since it is, Honda should give us the ability to switch it off. I appreciate your reply. Thank you, Sir.
Great family review, great vehicle, here's a virtual high five! Gotta say though, the upcoming KIA Sedona/Carnival is the one making me actually consider purchasing a mini van. 🙌👌👏👏👏
12:30 howler monkeys? Micah this is one of the times for sure where you’re attempt to be quippy and irreverent was a big fail quite frankly. 15:15 whoa Last Dance? This style vlogger just made a Michael Jordan reference on a recent video of his. ua-cam.com/video/147DgeWApYw/v-deo.html
I love minivans! I actually drove a 97 Mazda MPV All-Sport when I was in high school and had a Chevy Uplander for about 5 years. So damn comfortable and useful!
Toyota and Kia are coming out with new minivans and Honda decides just to throw a new front fascia on theirs? If Honda didnt have its brand loyalty, it would have failed by now.
That elephant in the way back of the minivan....Are we shopping for something new for Evie and darling daughter?? You three always have fun and inform! THX!
Anyone else having trouble with the computer? Wee had to change the battery and now the panel says multiple things are wrong. We took it back to the dealer and they said the back up camera is broken. WTF? Why would the back up camera affect about 10 warning systems? Now they want 1500 for a camera!
I actually liked the video while the ad before the video was still playing 😂😂😂 family review of a family van, about to be viewed by a family man. This oughta be good 😄
The Two Items that Honda does not put on any of their vehicles is 1) The Birds eye surround vision camera and the rear view mirror does not have a camera view that gives you an extra wide view of what is behind you. On one of the Honda Models you can get camera views in the center stack when you use your turn signal . Is it available on the mini van ?
I will never get used to the weird side styling (kinks and creases). The name should be spelled 'ODDyssey'. Otherwise it seems like a pretty capable van. And what's so 'mini' about this entire category of 'minivans'? I think it's about time that everyone drops the prefix 'mini' from this category 🙄. One more thing, Micah. You give credits at the end to your wife and yourself, but shouldn't you include your daughter as the 'Official Back Seat Tester'? 😉
Hey Micah! Hope you and the family are doing well my friend! I'm kinda torn between this and the 2021 Sienna. AWD in our snowy Virginia winters doesn't seem like a bad idea..... Then again, a 4Runner TRD Pro wouldn't be too shabby! Looking forward to flying with you next time I'm in on SoCal. Cheers, Dave
Omg, the emotional park about your newborn was sooo emotional! We have a little girl and we got this same van recently! Looking forward to making lots of memories with the family in it.
I own a 2009, still going strong. However, thinking about upgrading. I heard Honda was having some issues with the 10 speed. Did they get those issues fixed?
we have a 2019 pilot with the 10 speed. Overall it’s a perfectly fine transmission and has no problems. Every once in a while it takes like a second too long to upshift but it doesn’t really bother me, and the fuel economy is incredible. Honda’s are incredible vehicles. The odyssey is great!!
Really curious how this compares to the 2021 Kia Sedona. Currently have a 2012 Sedona that is running great but looking to change out. In 2012 we got the Kia maxed out at 34K. The comparable Odyssey was 46K at the time. Hope you have a chance to review in the future.
Nice review! Honda needs to send you a commission check for the EX we are purchasing tomorrow. This review, and Chris Wardlaw's, convinced me to give it a test. So happy I did. I've driven a lot of cars, and this is the best vehicle I've driven. Ever. Very excited about getting my hands on this one tomorrow!
These family reviews continue to improve. I think I know why. It's the more active participation of the young one. When is she going to become the host?
Thank you for helping me make my decision a little easier when deciding on which minivan to purchase. I love your chemistry and make car reviews so enjoyable
My aunt and uncle live by Knott’s Berry Farm. I haven’t been there since 1986 even though I have tons of family that live around there. Oh and great video as always.
What does the minivan play on that 10 inch screen? Is there a Blu-ray player or some sort of wireless cellular network connectivity for streaming video apps like Netflix, Amazon Prime, UA-cam, etc.?
Another fabulous review as usual. I am in the market for a minivan. How does the lane centering and stop and go compare to TSS 2.0 and Kia Telluride ? They seem to be the gold standard for level 2 driver assistance.
It could do the same thing with 1000ccs less and a hybrid system under the third row seat latching position. Plus you get a higher range hybrid am I right
Many people now are so dumb about minivans. They outclass any SUV so much when it comes to hauling people. Parents back in the 80s and 90s had the right idea buying them by the millions. Nowadays they're just not "cool" enough and supposedly an SUV is - never mind they're compromised as a family vehicle by comparison. If you're consistently moving five or six people around minivans are the best thing ever.
Jeff Morse I have a family of 3, and I’m leaning towards minivans myself. But I guess it just comes with getting older, as I used to like SUVs better.
As much as i love vans, they have a HUGE marketing and image problem, at least in the states. That stigma doesn't exist in much of Asia for example, so this problem should hopefully be fixable.
Randy Shackleford you mean the “soccer mom” or “mommobile” image? True, that seems to be a uniquely North American thing.
Also Minivans now are SOOO much better then minivans back then. Theres so much tech in them now and they drive good too! They aren't slow!
@@ciello___8307 Minivans Defintely aren't slow, but they're not really fast either. It would be so interesting if a performance light variant were to be released, like a Kia Sedona N line, an Odyssey Type R or a Pacifica SRT
Perhaps the greatest family vehicle ever created. (really)
And room in the back row for adults and all their stuff behind.
Noticed your daughter seems to love this one. ☺️
She was enamoured with the vacuum. The rest of the van was pretty nice too. 😂
Waiting for Micah to accidentally hit his wife in the face when he waves his arms.
I'll do my best to keep my flailing arms under control.
@@rv2167 OUCH! 😂
I feel like they want backwards on the design... The 2011 Odyssey was such a good looking mini-van... Yes I know a contradictory statement 😂
I knew I became a real adult when 1) old spice after shave started smelling good and 2) I began love minivan reviews and bought my own Odyssey. My wife and I love your family reviews. 🦄
Nothing wrong with being an adult. Hi5s and thanks to you and your wife!
Honda's V6 is bullet proof at this point. 💪🏽
PR people for Honda: were going emphasize the Odyssey's raw sexual energy. That will bring the people in.
😂
The odyssey looks like it has a lot of space for car sex not gonna lie
Man, I always enjoy your chemistry! Y'all seem genuinely happy together!
Have a single friend who bought a Honda Odyssey. All her friends asked her why she would get a family hauler like that being its just her and she said that it was a guarantee that she'd get invited whenever our group got together to go out and do something. She had the logical people mover!
I’m eager to see the new Chrysler Iliad go head to head with the Honda Odyssey. Even though I’m a homer, I don’t know which I’d pick.
I just pressed like because it’s Micah 😂
That's very kind of you. Cheers!!
Micah Muzio you’re always happy brah. Positivity comes through
The Odyssey is one of the best minivans out there, but there's no way I'd ever pay 50K for one. Ever. Just not worth the money. Even the higher trim models are filled with cheap, low-end plastics and materials, and fit and finish are hit and miss. Overall reliability is pretty good, though, as my sister literally drove the wheels off one. So, I guess there's that.
Would you choose as 2021 Odyssey over the Toyota Sienna and Chrysler Pacifica?
I’d choose a Pacifica especially for the hybrid option.. but they’ve really changed up the odyssey over the years.
I’d wait a bit until I could drive Kia’s new minivan.
I would only consider a hybrid or PHEV moving forward, especially on a large vehicle. This eliminates the Odyssey, despite the fact that I like the sliding second row seats. As much as I really like the design of the Pacifica, I don't trust Chrysler/Fiat. The Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid is eliminated due to the recent recall over fire risk, raising questions about possible design or component quality issues. I would not buy a vehicle that might burn down the house... why I also don't trust Hyundai/Kia, who also have recalls over fire risk. Toyota has a long history of reliability and is the leader with hybrid technology, so Sienna hybrid wins by default. I had concerns about the non-removable second row seats, but it has been suggested that they slide all the way forward to behind the first row seats, which should make removing them less important for cargo carrying purposes.
@@tylerjosephson4205
The Pacifica seems good on paper but the reality is that reliability (and resale) is behind the Sienna and Odyssey.
Yes, I would choose the Odyssey over the Sienna and anything Chrysler makes!! :)
From a former finance manager of a Honda dealership, your review was spot-on! I remember having to study endless product information videos when I started out as a salesperson and it became a mundane (yet necessary!) process. You've summed up hours of information into a short and very detailed video! (Also a huge fan of your LA flights!)
You’re very kind. Cheers!
I actually prefer the exterior of the 2020 vs 21
I like the built in vacuum cleaner.
Hey, did you see the new Honda Vacuum? It comes with a minivan attached to it!
It sucks. Literally.
...it still has to be emptied (bag or canister?)
Always amazed at how Odyssey and Sienna compete each other to make improvements.
I'm single and will probably never buy a minivan but I love your family reviews! Actually useful information
Never say never. If you ever decide to travel the country solving mysteries, you'll want a van. 😁
@@MicahMuzio what kind of van though? Hmm. Some mystery machine.
@@MicahMuzio... Plenty of space to bring along some friends and a pet.
Let's come back after a few years when you get married and have kids. I will wait.
Great, now I want a Honda Odyssey 😂. Great video you guys!
For hauling your kids around, it's hard to top a van. #vanlife !
One remark; please have more kids! You have a beautiful family! Also try not to hit you wife while you’re waving 👋 that hand of yours 😆.
8:03. I'm sorry, but you're ignoring the elephant in the room. Those huge blind spots in the rear corners created by the ugly rear roof styling.
I owned a 2016 EXL & 2010. It pained me to sell them both as I’’m moving overseas... Fantastic vehicles...
Would get one if I could turn VCM off. I had too many issues with it in my Accord.
You can easily turn off the VCM. Just Google : VCM muzzler. There a number of companies that make them. I bought mine on eBay for about $75 and it took 5 minutes to install. Look at some of the Odyssey forums. It's highly recommend that you disable that feature for long term reliability. Hope that helps.
@@thecavsloth9760 I know. Very familiar with it. But honestly, I have no appetite to deal with this stuff. VCM should not be there to begin with. And since it is, Honda should give us the ability to switch it off. I appreciate your reply. Thank you, Sir.
Great family review, great vehicle, here's a virtual high five! Gotta say though, the upcoming KIA Sedona/Carnival is the one making me actually consider purchasing a mini van. 🙌👌👏👏👏
Would take a Mini van over a cross over..best family vehichle ....
Damn. I was hoping you would family review the Polestar.
It would've been nice to have my wife and kiddo along for the Polestar drive. Hopefully we can get it again for Micah Drives.
We absolutely love our Honda Odyssey! It makes road trips a breeze!
Way better then the Toyota. Better quality and features. Not bad!
Great review as always! We love our 2019 Odyssey
Yes Honda! Love watching the Muzios! ❤️
12:30 howler monkeys? Micah this is one of the times for sure where you’re attempt to be quippy and irreverent was a big fail quite frankly.
15:15 whoa Last Dance? This style vlogger just made a Michael Jordan reference on a recent video of his.
ua-cam.com/video/147DgeWApYw/v-deo.html
Lol i aint gonna watch that windowless white van episode lol. hope you get yer subscribers tho👍🏾
How many McDonalds hamburgers wrappers can you throw from the drivers seat into the back?
I love minivans! I actually drove a 97 Mazda MPV All-Sport when I was in high school and had a Chevy Uplander for about 5 years. So damn comfortable and useful!
So true. Minivans don't get the respect they deserve.
Great video! Enjoyed it!
Toyota and Kia are coming out with new minivans and Honda decides just to throw a new front fascia on theirs? If Honda didnt have its brand loyalty, it would have failed by now.
I love my Odyssey....and my Mustang on weekends.. :)
That elephant in the way back of the minivan....Are we shopping for something new for Evie and darling daughter?? You three always have fun and inform! THX!
Yeah, it might be time to upgrade Evie's CR-V. We're still mulling out options.
Anyone else having trouble with the computer? Wee had to change the battery and now the panel says multiple things are wrong. We took it back to the dealer and they said the back up camera is broken. WTF? Why would the back up camera affect about 10 warning systems? Now they want 1500 for a camera!
We have the 2013 Honda Odyssey. This
interior looks amazing! Not that big of a fan about the exterior though.
Awesome review!!
I actually liked the video while the ad before the video was still playing 😂😂😂 family review of a family van, about to be viewed by a family man. This oughta be good 😄
Aw, thanks Francis!
The Two Items that Honda does not put on any of their vehicles is 1) The Birds eye surround vision camera and the rear view mirror does not have a camera view that gives you
an extra wide view of what is behind you. On one of the Honda Models you can get camera views in the center stack when you use your turn signal . Is it available on the mini van ?
I prefer the 2020
I will never get used to the weird side styling (kinks and creases). The name should be spelled 'ODDyssey'. Otherwise it seems like a pretty capable van. And what's so 'mini' about this entire category of 'minivans'? I think it's about time that everyone drops the prefix 'mini' from this category 🙄. One more thing, Micah. You give credits at the end to your wife and yourself, but shouldn't you include your daughter as the 'Official Back Seat Tester'? 😉
Excellent comments! And yes, it's just a matter of time before my daughter demands a spot in the credits. :)
Hey Micah! Hope you and the family are doing well my friend! I'm kinda torn between this and the 2021 Sienna. AWD in our snowy Virginia winters doesn't seem like a bad idea.....
Then again, a 4Runner TRD Pro wouldn't be too shabby!
Looking forward to flying with you next time I'm in on SoCal. Cheers, Dave
Omg, the emotional park about your newborn was sooo emotional! We have a little girl and we got this same van recently! Looking forward to making lots of memories with the family in it.
Adorable family, bro. Keep the great reviews coming.
Thanks!!
The Honda is just ugly!
Inside and out!
Last years front end looked a lot better then the new droopy looking front end now.
This makes me wanna have a family so I can get an Odyssey 😂
I own a 2009, still going strong. However, thinking about upgrading. I heard Honda was having some issues with the 10 speed. Did they get those issues fixed?
we have a 2019 pilot with the 10 speed. Overall it’s a perfectly fine transmission and has no problems. Every once in a while it takes like a second too long to upshift but it doesn’t really bother me, and the fuel economy is incredible. Honda’s are incredible vehicles. The odyssey is great!!
I’m also pretty sure they’ve improved it since then
The 10 speed in my 2019 Odyssey has been perfect. I bought the higher trim to avoid the problematic 9speed in the lower trims.
Digby Dooright it’s a 20 yr old car what do you expect?
This is one weird looking vehicle.
air vents sucks ... its not on ceiling , can be blocked easily
Audio was terrible on this review.
Honda - why no Wireless carplay/android auto? Thats killing me.
Honda, why no hybrid-4 to keep up with the upcoming Sienna?
Howdy, awesome video as always Micah! I’m quite a big fan of the Oddysey, though I still prefer the Sedona!😸😻😸
Howdy, Ryan!! I'm really looking forward to checking out the new Sedona.
19 mpg in the City ?
yeah big v6. Highway is better though
I am not sure to get this or 2022 Toyota Sienna. Sienna is harder to get.
Really curious how this compares to the 2021 Kia Sedona. Currently have a 2012 Sedona that is running great but looking to change out. In 2012 we got the Kia maxed out at 34K. The comparable Odyssey was 46K at the time. Hope you have a chance to review in the future.
There’s a new Sedona coming soon. I’m eager to get my hands on it!
@@MicahMuzio Thanks Micah, you rock!
Nice review! Honda needs to send you a commission check for the EX we are purchasing tomorrow. This review, and Chris Wardlaw's, convinced me to give it a test. So happy I did. I've driven a lot of cars, and this is the best vehicle I've driven. Ever. Very excited about getting my hands on this one tomorrow!
We're just sharing what we observe but I'm so pleased you found our review useful. Congrats on the new van!
Thumbs up for the cute family Micah
bro i love these ❤ .
These family reviews continue to improve. I think I know why. It's the more active participation of the young one. When is she going to become the host?
Seriously. It's just a matter of time before I hand her the keys to the channel. :)
@@MicahMuzio I have a 16 y/0 daughter. I've taken to hiding the key fob of my GTI. :)
@@stephenhendricks103 Hide it good lol. I wouldn't want my teen learning to drive with the sports car haha
Thank you for helping me make my decision a little easier when deciding on which minivan to purchase. I love your chemistry and make car reviews so enjoyable
Thanks so much for the kind comment, Rachel. Glad we could help!!
Still the worst arm rests in the entire auto industry.
The garmin navigation system sucks
My aunt and uncle live by Knott’s Berry Farm. I haven’t been there since 1986 even though I have tons of family that live around there. Oh and great video as always.
man Micha just completely forgets about the Kia Sedona
By sales it's a distant 4th. But the new Sedona looks promising. Can't wait to check it out!
Dang. Now I want one for my family...
It's hard to imagine a better family hauler.
I loved this video. I learned a lot about the car and the way you presented the information was fun and never boring. Subscribed!
pbbb07 Glad to have you aboard!
How do the front seats fare in a rear-end collision for the Honda Odyssey (and other minivans)? It's not tested fully by the IIHS.
What does the minivan play on that 10 inch screen? Is there a Blu-ray player or some sort of wireless cellular network connectivity for streaming video apps like Netflix, Amazon Prime, UA-cam, etc.?
Wheeee...
Seriously, $16k range between base and top levels? Who the crap would pay $50k for a minivan? Honda or not, too much.
That's the case for pretty much any mainstream large 3 row vehicle, crossover or van though
Another fabulous review as usual. I am in the market for a minivan. How does the lane centering and stop and go compare to TSS 2.0 and Kia Telluride ? They seem to be the gold standard for level 2 driver assistance.
You guys should do a Halloween costume review so Evie can dress up as Velma and say Jinkies everytime there is a good car feature she likes
Quality family content!
Hi Mica, How can I become one of your long term car testing driver? Im in Philly. I will volunteer.
Even seeing one in person earlier, i swore it was an older model.
Yup. I’m not seeing any progress here.
So in parting, you tell everyone to wait for the 2022 hybrid (hopefully) that Honda needs to pull out of their hat... right?
I think the cabinTalk function is on, part of the video sounds like I'm in the van together hearing Micah's announcement broadcasts lol
Not gonna lie, no kids, no family, no dog but I really like this. Makes so much more sense than a SUV
Hey man.... I love that t-shirt! Lancia Stratos' rally car? Those were awesome little rides. 🙃
Just gotta figure out how to fit the family in a Stratos. 🤔
@@MicahMuzio cargo rack 😂
They are so practical, but how do you get passed it still being a van... 😩
Your family is awesome...that kid is going to keep you busy later on...
Great review, currently have a 2005, hoping to upgrade with the 2018 model. The convenience of a minivan is unmatched in my opinion.
Purchased a 2020 Elite same color and prefer the exterior and interior style of the one I purchased.
It doesn’t need a v6 but sure nevermind
It could do the same thing with 1000ccs less and a hybrid system under the third row seat latching position. Plus you get a higher range hybrid am I right
"I remember making a child too" - LOL - loved this video
I just can’t forgive the incandescent brake lights
That guy’s voice is familiar. Are you that guy from Kelley blue book?
Yup. That's me!
Five!
AC blows
The inboard position of the second row is also good to protect little ones.
Needless to say, but yet another wholesome family review!! Enjoyed as always.
Does this front end look anything like a 2016 nissan quest
Should I get this or the Chrysler Pacifica?
Gave you a thumbs up for Stratos shirt.
My wife has a 2002. I don't think its mini van.