Super n simple. You just saved me a tonne in plasterer labour costs lol. Doing prep before the day he arrives is a big help. Letting the tradesman do his bit but saving cash is hugely benoficial
Ace vid. I'm prepping for plasterers, stripping walls back to brick & have PVA'd well in advance to seal the dust in. They're going to dryline so presume another coat of PVA prior to boarding and on the day? They want me to blue grit paint a ceiling which they're skimming over. I hope to coax em to work in September. If I grit that ceilint tomorrow is that too early?
Agree with all you say mate, I’m the same not against pva at all, but drying times on different backgrounds can vary, blue/green grit everything pulls in the same time. Top video mate
You can make your own blue grit if you wish all it is SBR and silica sand don't forget when using this you need to keep stirring it or the fine aggregate will sink to the bottom of the tub so don't forget all so if you are buying blue grit it can be really thick to spread so put a little bit of SBR in it give it a good mix keep adding a little bit till you get the right consistency to use to spread it easier
If l use PVA l add a bit of concentrated liquid brick dye you don't need much you can get different colours l use yellow or red but you can use whatever you prefer to use it's a personal choice it has many good advantages to use concentrated liquid brick dye you can see where you been obviously and see if you missed any areas as well let say you need to PVA day before your going to skim and it need another coat of PVA so the first coat you could use Yellow dye and on the second coat you could use red hope my tips of the trade help all of you out
Very well explained Anthony. I have now heard people saying they use sbr instead of pva for interior work. Too many choices, if its good for you, then I go by what you say. Great video btw.
SBR is only 13 pounds a tub now on amazon its brilliant stuff for overskims, it's much thinner than pva so you get better value and it's not water soluble so it doesn't break down if water hits it like pva, blue grit is ace aswell but if you want to hit ceilings and walls the same day SBR 100 times better than pva, the skim pulls in lovely aswell, gives you plenty of time
I let PVA dry the first time I ever used it. I thought now it's dry what have I done it's going to be hard like a glue and nothing will stick. So I wet it and it becomes tacky. Worked ok for me. It's a bit like wall paper and the old paste that becomes tacky when your trying to get the bugger off. I am just doing a wall now and using Blue grit because I don't trust PVA on shiny tiles although a lot of people here says it works.
Hi m8 I’m going to be tackling a kitchen wall that’s been previously skimmed, but it has 3-5mm dips in it what would I use to make it level for a re skim , Cheers Simon
Hello mate, never used bluegrit before but defo wanna try it, is there any difference between drying times with this rather then skimming on pva? thanks 👍
Another good video but i must admit personally i prefer SBR or pva. In my opinion Its a lot cheaper and just as good as the blue grit. If u have to wait 24 hrs before plastering over the grit u may as well use SBR
I cant really find a answer to this anywhere but can you use renovation plaster/lime plaster with this product or does blue grit stop the "breathability"?
I just use a flat brush most of the time. I’ve used a roller and tray every now and then but I find I’m quicker with a flat brush. I tend to use the lid as a tray when using a flat brush it helps to catch the bits and I scoop the blue grit onto the lid and take it from there rather than holding the bucket.
Top Man 👊🏾👳🏾♂️. I however have PVA'd a day or even a week before skimming & it's been fine for me . Depends because some brands I've used a totally shit but I've still managed it. Although I have heard the Blue stuff is the 🐝 knees .
Using for the first time today, as I’m applying the grit doesn’t seem to be covering all the area only the blue liquid, it’s a bit patchy,will this cause me any problems?im applying with a brush
Hi Kirk you need to mix the bucket up, the moisture always comes to the top so before using it, it’ll need mixing to get the right consistency all the way through. You can always add some pva to try water it down if you are struggling with thickness
@@AnthonyParryPlastering really appreciate the reply,I did think about that tbh after writing my comment,I have applied it to an area I have to bond out tomorrow as it’s my first experience using blue grit,thought it was best to test it out that way rather than on a finished coat just to test out and see what I think of the product,cheers Anthony
Just used this now and it was a nightmare to apply. some places very clumpy and others barely blue now it is drying. I have used way more than the recommended 4.5 mt square per litre. Should i give it a second coat or do you think it will be fine. Im a Diy plasterer aka a shite plasterer! ha
Sounds like it’s need more stirring before applying it. But it can be a pain to put on. It all depends if you’ve covered it all if its covered it should be fine. The grit is there to give it extra grip so as long as it isn’t super smooth it should be fine. It hard to tell without seeing it, but if you’re not sure just add some to areas that look bare. Did you use a roller or brush?
@@AnthonyParryPlastering Thanks for reply pal. Defo covered the whole wall blue. I just found when I initially hit the wall ( tried brush and roller) that bit would be clumpy and then I try and work it into the surrounding area but most of the sand would stay in that area. its not smooth at all but not the sand is not spread as even as id like. many thansk
i'm no plasterer but i can do it a little bit that defo worth a subscribe and a like . i noticed you was using board finish . do you prefer this to multi finish ?
I have been told blue grit is good for high suction back grounds, and green for low suction. I have an old house to reskim with high suction old walls. Just wondering what's your opinion?. Thanks
If its high suction use sbr and then grit on top of that it will make the plaster set perfectly, the problem with high suction areas is that the plaster can dry quicker in patches which can lead to shiny spits on the walls or the other end of rhe scale is crazing. Hope this helps 🙏
I find it an arse to apply seems to take ages to do a room plus a ceiling and its the poor old customer who has to pay for your time . Im not against blue grit at all but i tend to use pva alot more
One process you dont have to do before skimming....???? You can go over dry pva as its water soluble and the water In the plaster will tack it back up. I'm not against blue grit I have used it, but has to be done the day before so actually slows the job down.
I’ve never heard of the plaster making the PVA tack up after it’s dried I’ll have to look into this 👍 I was taught that the PVA needs to be tacky before putting the plaster on. That how my dad taught me. Cheers I’ll look into it 😀
Hope all are happy n well. I've pva'd days before putting the skim over it & it's been absolutely fine. I usually pva the whole house before I do any skimming.
I used Thorobond over crystalized wallpaper glue back in the day. The pva was dry when I sprayed all purpose over it. I went a bit too heavy and the next day it had all slumped due to the excess moisture reactivation the pva. (later learned I didn't need the pva, just spray and leave the stiple, no wipe down. Then spray and pull everything tight the next day)
No it doesn’t weaken it ! You need to dilute it 3 parts water and I part PVA , It states it on the instructions, and after a good stirring , don’t forget to stir before and during use . I am surprised you haven’t had any problems putting it on neat as this would form a skin and could later delaminate ( come away from ) the background you are plastering to , it needs to be diluted to be able to soak into into the background you are plastering, same for artex ceilings, always give 2 x coats and you will never have any problems, ALWAYS apply second coat immediately before plastering, so always tacky .
I’m not sure if there is. I lot of the time the drying time depends on the conditions. I find after 12 hours they are all pretty solid and ready to skim. But if I wanted to get on it on straight away I’d go with pva.
Yes you can if you're not doing it right and risk it becoming un-keyed. Read the instructions of any pva tub. It clearly states apply plaster while pva is tacky. Instructions are on products for a real reason!
@@Scott-wz4sc makes no sense. If you’re plastering a huge ceiling, the pva won’t be tacky when you get to the other side or end. It’s common sense. Pva re emulsifies when it gets wet ie when plaster goes on it. Use your noggin fella
@nikthegreekcypriot I'll repeat myself...read the instructions most pva instructs you to apply 2 coats. So when the first one has dried apply the 2nd coat and then the 2nd will take longer to dry. Obviously this all depends on how many square meter you're doing. But I've been at for 27 years and never had problem with how I do it, and I've taught 6 lads to go on and set themselves up as self employed. So yeah used my noggin plenty thanks!
Love to see writing on the wall when stripping old walls. Reminds me of the love that families put into their homes over the years.
Tony T decorated this 19/07/1986
I’ve watched a few of your vids now and your the bollocks mate….so informative and a calming voice that’s totally understandable!!
Super n simple. You just saved me a tonne in plasterer labour costs lol. Doing prep before the day he arrives is a big help. Letting the tradesman do his bit but saving cash is hugely benoficial
Just plastered my girlfriends lounge. Blue gritted first. Now painted brilliant white it looks the business. Blue grit for me all the way 👌👌
Ace vid. I'm prepping for plasterers, stripping walls back to brick & have PVA'd well in advance to seal the dust in. They're going to dryline so presume another coat of PVA prior to boarding and on the day?
They want me to blue grit paint a ceiling which they're skimming over. I hope to coax em to work in September. If I grit that ceilint tomorrow is that too early?
Agree with all you say mate, I’m the same not against pva at all, but drying times on different backgrounds can vary, blue/green grit everything pulls in the same time. Top video mate
Cheers mate, much appreciated 👍
Red Grit is better but purple grit needs drys too late.
You can make your own blue grit if you wish all it is SBR and silica sand
don't forget when using this you need to keep stirring it or the fine aggregate will sink to the bottom of the tub so don't forget all so if you are buying blue grit it can be really thick to spread so put a little bit of SBR in it give it a good mix keep adding a little bit till you get the right consistency to use to spread it easier
Used the Bostik green grit the other day,beautiful to skim over,hung around for ages so handy for larger areas 😀
It’s great stuff. I’ve used the green grit a few times. It all makes life a bit easier 👍
Exellent video Anthony your work looks absolute Quality, have you stopped doing videos now haven’t seen any recent videos of you lately.
@@stevebowness9435 hi bud, thanks yeah lives been busy, so the videos have taken a back seat. But there should be some new ones soon 👍
@@AnthonyParryPlastering Great Stuff nice to see an old school Plasterer who does Traditional work not many old school Guys left.
Im going to blue grit over artex. Some of it varies in depth, do i need more than 1 coat in those areas before i skim? Thankyou
So helpful, bought it today to try for the first time, hoping it’s going to make life easier than with pva!
If l use PVA l add a bit of concentrated liquid brick dye you don't need much you can get different colours l use yellow or red but you can use whatever you prefer to use it's a personal choice it has many good advantages to use concentrated liquid brick dye you can see where you been obviously and see if you missed any areas as well let say you need to PVA day before your going to skim and it need another coat of PVA so the first coat you could use Yellow dye and on the second coat you could use red hope my tips of the trade help all of you out
Very well explained Anthony. I have now heard people saying they use sbr instead of pva for interior work. Too many choices, if its good for you, then I go by what you say. Great video btw.
Thanks, I’ve never tried Sbr on internal work but there is a few options out nowadays. Thanks again for watching. 👍
Nooo don't do it on over skim. It's great on clean brick work but you will be chasing it other wise.
Sbr for outside. Pva for inside.....
I'm a blue grit lover LOL. So much easier, although obviously more expensive, but it's worth the extra expense to me personally.
Do you think tilemaster grip is also as suitable? It says it can be used on walls but I want to using it for a ceiling...
As with any application in the plastering trade it all depends on the soundness of the substrate
SBR is only 13 pounds a tub now on amazon its brilliant stuff for overskims, it's much thinner than pva so you get better value and it's not water soluble so it doesn't break down if water hits it like pva, blue grit is ace aswell but if you want to hit ceilings and walls the same day SBR 100 times better than pva, the skim pulls in lovely aswell, gives you plenty of time
What's the sbr you get from amazon?
So you can use sbr for internal ie when you use multi finish plaster
@@billy4148 yes
@@pauldolton9118 I used to buy the ever build, now I just buy whatever is the cheapest at that particular time
Do u add water to the sbr
I was going to use PVA for a wall that’s already been painted, think I’ll be using blue grit now so I don’t have the risk of the PVA not sticking
Also check Bostik Plasterers Stabilizing green stuff, much much better than blue
@@przemysawkoch7648 thanks mate appreciated, this seems a lot better for the job I’m about to do
Is there anything I can use on my kitchen walls and ceiling as I don't want the hassles of skimming and just go straight to painting?
I let PVA dry the first time I ever used it. I thought now it's dry what have I done it's going to be hard like a glue and nothing will stick. So I wet it and it becomes tacky. Worked ok for me. It's a bit like wall paper and the old paste that becomes tacky when your trying to get the bugger off. I am just doing a wall now and using Blue grit because I don't trust PVA on shiny tiles although a lot of people here says it works.
Hi m8 I’m going to be tackling a kitchen wall that’s been previously skimmed, but it has 3-5mm dips in it what would I use to make it level for a re skim ,
Cheers Simon
BG Bonding
I use Bostik's primer. Same thing only in Green.
Never had an issue with dry PVA myself. Pva that's too wet, that's another matter...
Hello mate, never used bluegrit before but defo wanna try it, is there any difference between drying times with this rather then skimming on pva? thanks 👍
Nope
Another good video but i must admit personally i prefer SBR or pva. In my opinion Its a lot cheaper and just as good as the blue grit. If u have to wait 24 hrs before plastering over the grit u may as well use SBR
Can I ask. pva can be applied the night before can't it ?
What is the difference between blue and green?
Yellow
Pva + sbr + 2 hand fulls of sand . 👍
I cant really find a answer to this anywhere but can you use renovation plaster/lime plaster with this product or does blue grit stop the "breathability"?
I wouldn’t use this with renovating plaster. Limelite have a product that you can use called easy bond.
Thanks for the reply mate appreciate it 👍
5l PVA mixed with 10l Blue Grit, much easier to apply and dry out quickly
Can you actually do this? Doesn’t recommend thinning it down on the tub
@@Garyck88 yes I do, no problems at all
Should try bostik green grit it’s not so harsh two go over
I’ll have to try it, cheers for the tip 👍
Is there any need to bluegrit artex ceilings? Thanks!
See above for answer 👍
Why does my blue grit look patchy after I put it up
How many times did you mention BLUE GRIT.
Do you use a roller tray or just stick ya roller in the tub of blue grit?
I just use a flat brush most of the time. I’ve used a roller and tray every now and then but I find I’m quicker with a flat brush. I tend to use the lid as a tray when using a flat brush it helps to catch the bits and I scoop the blue grit onto the lid and take it from there rather than holding the bucket.
First time user found it hard with a roller try the brush nxt
Top Man 👊🏾👳🏾♂️. I however have PVA'd a day or even a week before skimming & it's been fine for me . Depends because some brands I've used a totally shit but I've still managed it. Although I have heard the Blue stuff is the 🐝 knees .
if i blue grit the night before and its dried, do i still need to pva before i skim the next day?
Nope.just go straight on it
@@justinwalker5237 thanks dude
Using for the first time today, as I’m applying the grit doesn’t seem to be covering all the area only the blue liquid, it’s a bit patchy,will this cause me any problems?im applying with a brush
Hi Kirk you need to mix the bucket up, the moisture always comes to the top so before using it, it’ll need mixing to get the right consistency all the way through.
You can always add some pva to try water it down if you are struggling with thickness
@@AnthonyParryPlastering really appreciate the reply,I did think about that tbh after writing my comment,I have applied it to an area I have to bond out tomorrow as it’s my first experience using blue grit,thought it was best to test it out that way rather than on a finished coat just to test out and see what I think of the product,cheers Anthony
What brand plaster did you use over the blue grit????
Hi I tend to use British gypsum board finish but I use multi finish as well. But I personally prefer board finish. 👍
Can I tile stright on febond blue grit
Hi Paul, yeah you should be able to, as long as it dry and set. 👍
Just used this now and it was a nightmare to apply. some places very clumpy and others barely blue now it is drying. I have used way more than the recommended 4.5 mt square per litre. Should i give it a second coat or do you think it will be fine. Im a Diy plasterer aka a shite plasterer! ha
Sounds like it’s need more stirring before applying it. But it can be a pain to put on. It all depends if you’ve covered it all if its covered it should be fine. The grit is there to give it extra grip so as long as it isn’t super smooth it should be fine.
It hard to tell without seeing it, but if you’re not sure just add some to areas that look bare.
Did you use a roller or brush?
@@AnthonyParryPlastering Thanks for reply pal. Defo covered the whole wall blue. I just found when I initially hit the wall ( tried brush and roller) that bit would be clumpy and then I try and work it into the surrounding area but most of the sand would stay in that area. its not smooth at all but not the sand is not spread as even as id like. many thansk
@@lawlor1000 sounds like you don’t need to put more on. I reckon it should be fine
I add some water to it to.make it easier to apply.
i'm no plasterer but i can do it a little bit that defo worth a subscribe and a like . i noticed you was using board finish . do you prefer this to multi finish ?
Thanks James, yeah I always use board finish I find it more consistent, I’m not the biggest fan of multi I find it goes too fatty for my liking. 😀
I have been told blue grit is good for high suction back grounds, and green for low suction. I have an old house to reskim with high suction old walls. Just wondering what's your opinion?. Thanks
If its high suction use sbr and then grit on top of that it will make the plaster set perfectly, the problem with high suction areas is that the plaster can dry quicker in patches which can lead to shiny spits on the walls or the other end of rhe scale is crazing. Hope this helps 🙏
@@crigdastig91 thanks
Would blue grit be good to dab onto ?
It is a bonding agent so in theory you should be able to. It all depends on what the backing like. I’ve not tried it myself.
@@AnthonyParryPlastering it’s old brick so was going to pva anyway , I’m a skimmer mainly but do the odd dot and dab cheers pal
@@mickbaker7573 I’d just use PVA myself, you won’t be gaining anything using blue grit.
I find it an arse to apply seems to take ages to do a room plus a ceiling and its the poor old customer who has to pay for your time . Im not against blue grit at all but i tend to use pva alot more
It all depends if it make sense for you to use blue grit. I’m not against PVA I do it all the time. It’s what works best for you.
One process you dont have to do before skimming....????
You can go over dry pva as its water soluble and the water In the plaster will tack it back up.
I'm not against blue grit I have used it, but has to be done the day before so actually slows the job down.
I’ve never heard of the plaster making the PVA tack up after it’s dried I’ll have to look into this 👍
I was taught that the PVA needs to be tacky before putting the plaster on. That how my dad taught me.
Cheers I’ll look into it 😀
Hope all are happy n well.
I've pva'd days before putting the skim over it & it's been absolutely fine. I usually pva the whole house before I do any skimming.
@@AnthonyParryPlastering he is right, it re emulsifiers.. That why you can't use it outside...
I used Thorobond over crystalized wallpaper glue back in the day. The pva was dry when I sprayed all purpose over it. I went a bit too heavy and the next day it had all slumped due to the excess moisture reactivation the pva. (later learned I didn't need the pva, just spray and leave the stiple, no wipe down. Then spray and pull everything tight the next day)
Last time I used blue grip it cost about £40 a tub do u charge the customer?
Always charge the customer otherwise what’s the point 😀 but you can get it for about £22 a 10litre tub
Do you charge the customer? Wow🤣
I always pva neat, never had any issues even over bonding or hardwall, surely watering it down weakens the pva
No it doesn’t weaken it ! You need to dilute it 3 parts water and I part PVA , It states it on the instructions, and after a good stirring , don’t forget to stir before and during use . I am surprised you haven’t had any problems putting it on neat as this would form a skin and could later delaminate ( come away from ) the background you are plastering to , it needs to be diluted to be able to soak into into the background you are plastering, same for artex ceilings, always give 2 x coats and you will never have any problems, ALWAYS apply second coat immediately before plastering, so always tacky .
Is there a product like blue grit you can apply and plaster on the same day?
I’m not sure if there is. I lot of the time the drying time depends on the conditions. I find after 12 hours they are all pretty solid and ready to skim.
But if I wanted to get on it on straight away I’d go with pva.
Microgobetis
Does any body read the tub it says leave to cure for 24 hrs so u are not using it correctly
PVA doesn’t have to be tacky
You can PVA and skim the next day
Yes you can if you're not doing it right and risk it becoming un-keyed. Read the instructions of any pva tub. It clearly states apply plaster while pva is tacky. Instructions are on products for a real reason!
@@Scott-wz4sc yes but you don't need to .as I've used pva the following day many times over.
@@Scott-wz4sc makes no sense. If you’re plastering a huge ceiling, the pva won’t be tacky when you get to the other side or end. It’s common sense. Pva re emulsifies when it gets wet ie when plaster goes on it. Use your noggin fella
@nikthegreekcypriot I'll repeat myself...read the instructions most pva instructs you to apply 2 coats. So when the first one has dried apply the 2nd coat and then the 2nd will take longer to dry. Obviously this all depends on how many square meter you're doing. But I've been at for 27 years and never had problem with how I do it, and I've taught 6 lads to go on and set themselves up as self employed. So yeah used my noggin plenty thanks!
💯👍👍
Never use it always pva and it must bit of sand in the pva
It’s whatever works best for you bud 👍
If i had a pound for every time you said blue grit, i would have enough money for 2 tubs of blue grit. 😄 thanks though. Good vid
That's a gimmick blue grit pva is a all u need ,a lot of plasterers dilute it so its useless 50/50 is good over most back grounds
Spoiler alert - blue grit is PVA and sand, with a secret ingredient.
Blue dye.
So can you pva tiles then skim over them? Blue grit you can skim over tiles!
@@Garyck88 probably if you chuck some sand in