How True Detective Lost the Plot
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- Опубліковано 7 бер 2024
- Hello! This video is about how, in my opinion, True Detective's first season set an unreachable standard for the following seasons, and how its brand decayed to such a point that we now have season 4. So how did True Detective change over time? What made the first season so good, and the following seasons... not so much?
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Season five needs to be set in Toontown from Roger Rabbit. The two detectives are a suicidally depressed alcoholic cartoon fish named “Mr. Fins” and a corrupt and abusive cartoon moose named “Hatrack Harry”. It’s set in the 1990’s, so they’re trying to figure out who murdered LeFou from “Beauty and the Beast”, who was found headless in a massage parlor with a carrot up his ass. It will be called “True Detective: Merry Fishmoose”.
You described all that like it was a dream that came to you last night
Hey! That's me!
Sounds like a hit to me.
I like it! 😁 But can we throw the phrase “Have a morbin time in Toontown!” In there?
@@raultrashlord4404I cannot confirm or deny this as I now have a development deal with HBO.
I want season 5 to take place in a mysterious pyramid on the north pole, and the twist is that its just Alien vs. Predator.
That’d be the SOUTH pole, though :)
I thought the twist for this one was going to be that it would turn out to be a prequel to Game of Thrones and the killer would turn out to be the night king.
@@BrandonToyjust so he can get 360 no scoped by Aria Stark.
@@NME10E 🤣 And then they make the head cleaning lady Sheriff.
sounds kino.
I had always hoped True Detective would become a pulpy, noir anthology series where each season was overseen by different writers-directors-creators with the only throughline being the question of what it meant to be a "true detective." For instance, one season could have been about a private investigator who tumbles into a wide-reaching ring of human traffickers while another was about investigative reporters looking into the history of a spurious land deal. If any network was going to take a chance like that, I'd have thought it was HBO, at the time. Unfortunately, once it became a brand, I guess everyone was too risk averse to actually do anything that was too different.
Mindhunter got cancelled, Perry Mason got cancelled and now they're trying again with Sugar on Apple tv. Those type of noir/PI/detective genre shows and films are pretty much dead now. Motherless Brooklyn was the last one I saw that was pretty good.
@@edwardhannah8507 Unfortunately, I think you're right. They various corporate heads think they're dead, so they're not going to do anything in that genre.
Exactly.
That's what it looked like we were getting after S1.
Or maybe it could be about a private detective who’s kind of a anti-hero, and he’s investigating a guy who’s having a affair, but then it turns out the guy gets murdered, and then it turns out the wife wasn’t the actual wife, and then there’s this whole thing about water rights or something, and then somebody gets shot, and then a guy goes “forget about Chinatown, Jake” or something like that, I don’t know I didn’t really understand it but everyone says it’s good
@@AwesometownUSA Good luck getting that made, especially if you're tying to cast Academy award-level talent in the lead roles.
Maybe they could make a True Detective multiverse show, where all the detectives from all the seasons are stranded on a desert island and have a battle royale while trying to find their way off the island
Aren't all the detectives from the same universe, though?
Rust will 100% win that. Survivalist with very high intellect and I really think he's capable of killing without remorse like a psychopath.
@@anonfinally1692lol they’re standing on the beach being told what’s going on and the rules and Rust immediately bashes someone’s head in and runs off
Don't give JJ Abrams any ideas.
@@anonfinally1692 Rust in this scenario is 50/50 either win or off himself seeing that nonsense :D
Season 5: Shaquille O'Neal and Wayne Gretsky as a pair of grizzled detectives, named Turner and Hooch... the twist? They're underwater detectives It writes itself.
2 men in lead roles? Diversity warning engage. Maybe make them both trans. Actually that's a great idea. At first they separate and don't like each other. But then later they come together making the transition together and find themselves and the killer and then solve the crime as women. And that allows you to have a lesbian sex scene. You are right it did write itself. Perfect. Home run. I would say let's print some money but that's usually not what these DEI epics do.
I would make nachos for that.
“Season 1 had an atmosphere as thick as soup “ I couldn’t have said it better. The themes and even characters were firmly inside the realm of fiction but the universe and portrayals felt so lived in and real. Sincerely, Andy from someone’s memory of a town.
I was a cop for nearly 40 years. I recognize some of myself in Rust’s hopelessness and Marty’s risk taking and feeling of being left out. They did a great job of capturing burn- out in season 1
For your sake, Andy, I sincerely hope that memory is not fading. And not for a while longer still.
And the memory is fading…. Hehe
what really irritated me about season 4 was the premise of a maybe supernatural killing during constant night, but the show did nothing with the fact that it was alway night. Insomniac did it better using the constant day to really screw with al pacini's character
The film is called Insomnia and it stars an actor called Al Pacino.
I hated the lazy ending. Not to spoil it for others.... but there was no ghost. It was the hippy-terrorists that did the torture and murder of the scientists.....and the cop ladies were like.. cool. Nothing to see.
I tried to like it and kept hate watching it smh trying to give it a chance The entire season is a cringe fest Setting up a plot that involves the Dad violating his son trust and being a mole in the station and go nowhere with that so immediately kill him off after it's revealed When he coulds been set up to be a real villain really pissed me ofd
@@nicholas_scottless hippy terrorist more tribe elders and guardians
They could've made it like the opposite of Midsommar.
Love all your work Georg, but I’ve missed your sharply written media analysis. Thanks for this
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Straight up. S1 was pure alchemy. Can't tell you how many drawings I've ruined because I thought they needed a punch up or one last touch.
"I don't need to scan this first, I can just ink right over the top of it and clean it up digitally later!" Oh no man, oh no.
Goethe wrote that "the poet should address the specific and if there be anything about him he will articulate the universal." That be season 1.
The best part of TD was the juxtaposition of McConaughey and Harrelson characters over time; the crime element was inconsequential. Also, there's a whole Kirk/Spock thing going on that nobody notices.
The crime element was absolutely consequential because of how it effected the characters.
S4 always seems like they understand those characters on a surface levels "Both are assholes" so both the characters are assholes in S4, but they're the same kind of asshole that end up not complimenting each other. Marty and Rust were completely different types of asshole.
The crime element was actually pivotal to the whole thing. You don't have to diminish one thing to promote another.
@@RexVergstrongEverything was wrong with season 4, it was just terrible.
I forced myself to sit through it but it became a comedy after a couple episodes.
Could have called it ‘conversations next to a group of naked, thawing men’
The cleaning lady mafia was so effin stupid, i feel like watching season 4 was a total waste of time.
Really? You can't be serious
@@legion999 It was lazy writing. The show had all these threads, leading all different places.... and instead it was just the hippy terrorists that did the terrible crime... and just left it like that. It was... so lazy
Just like season 3, I was really interested in these occult/spiritual aspects which were quickly thrown out in favor of an unbelievably stupid ending. I don't believe in the process of making the audience believe something, giving them evidence to believe it, push them to ONLY believe that thing and then pull the rug out from under them just to pretend like it was some big twist.
@@nicholas_scott All of the season one Easter eggs were just dropped, they lead nowhere.
I feel like they just put them there to keep people hooked.
They never explained the tongue…
I tried to look it up and yeah, the author was like….It’s a mystery could be the ghosts or maybe not, You decide, lol!
Why there was so much emphasis on it even in the last episode…
season 2 suffered the most by being one season of a larger anthology. if it was a stand alone show and give 2-3 seasons and some room to breathe (and cut the over the top gunplay), it couldve worked as a modern noir
I'd also add that seasons 1-3 had quite a heavy subtext about how being a cop messes you up, as almost every main character is struggling with inner demons, largely all there as a direct consequence of being a cop, and it helps you understand them, even characters that are unlikeable. But this was absent in season 4, they just did a bad thing and covered it up, and never went on to show how that conspiracy affected them, beyond some poor plot convenient arguments.
I think that was because they were women 🎉
@@SirRobert69Idk, Rachel McAdam’s character in season 2 was pretty fucked up. Granted, she and Vince Vaughan’s main squeeze make it out okay in the end, but their lives still sucked
What season 4 had to say about being a cop basically amounted to contorting itself into a "thin blue line" bumper sticker, like ok so one old white guy is bent by the mine but he's so pathetic that he gets found out by the troubled women cops who are only corrupt when it comes to vigilante justice, like an episode of Law and Order: SVU that wants us to cheer when Stabler beats up a suspect and then tricks them into waiving their right to counsel because we know they're guilty... if this had just been a tight 90 minute movie it'd probably get a solid 7/10 from me, but aside from the plotholes, unbelievable character choices, nonsense motivations, etc... like nearly every moment of every episode between the first and last was pure filler, just unforgivably lazy and cynical to attach to the true detective 'franchise'
I love a lot in season 2 though. Ray and Frank, Lera Lynn, the birdman, the cabin shootout, the Conway Twitty dream sequence, Vaughn in the desert while Farrell being chased in the woods. I wish it came together more cause there really is nuggets of gold there.
I absolutely hated Season 2 so bad that to this day I still believe that the writer made it bad on purpose because of the pressure to keep delivering at a high level and the sudden fame became just too much to handle. My PTSD was so bad from watching the season finale that I still haven’t gotten around to watching Season 3…
That being said though, I’ve read really great opinion pieces from people who authentically enjoyed Season 2 and even preferred to season 1.
I really enjoyed season 2 as well. Not as strong as 1, especially towards the end, though. Really enjoyed 3, but it meandered a bit too much near the end again. Still very entertaining.
Season 4 was just not engaging for me. Absolutely failed to meet the predecessors' standards.
Season 1 of True Detective is the single greatest season of TV I can remember.
F-ckin’ A
Season 1 of True Detective is the single greatest season of TV...FTFY
I'm a big defender of season 3, which I think has a lot more to say than season 1, even if it says it a lot less cleanly. It's the best attempt at portraying dementia in media I've ever seen, and doing so via the time jumping shtick season 1 established was inspired.
Perfect ending, also.
It wasn't schtick in season one, coming back to it later in season made it schtick.
It doesn't touch season 1. Season 3 was just watchable compared to season 2.
Season 1 could easily land on a spot of all time greatest series. Season 2 I couldnt watch past the second episode.
Season 3 I got half way through.
Season 1 is the show the rest are cash grabs.
Season 3 is the forgotten season. I thought it was really moving and has some of the best acting in all of TD.
Season 3 was wank.
It suffered and still suffers from Season 2 being a letdown. People are already invested in S2 so most of them finish it but won't get back to the next season due to S2 being bad.
Great analysis.
And you hit on two points that I really loved about S2: Vaughn is utterly convincing as a sleazy, emotionally distraught slime all, and the score adds SO much atmosphere to the world / setting.
I watched S2 before 1, deliberately and realise the strengths of 1- but love them equally.
EDIT TO ADD:
😂The midichlorians line just got me good
The one good thing that came out of watching season 4 was going through comments, and stumbling on a lot of people suggesting to check out Sharp Objects, and Mare of Easttown. Watched both, and both were great shows. Mare of Easttown had a lot of procedural investigation stuff that was sorely missing in night country.
May I recommend also Wind River (film) and if you enjoy that then go through the writer's previous films, like Hell or High water, and the tv series Fortitude (3 seasons and set in an isolated icy town ... But very well done), the killing (either the original or remake, I liked both but the remake broke me more weirdly), and the Australian tv series Mr. inbetween ... Which is masterful in such an understated fashion (and if you like Aussie stuff, the movie Animal Kingdom also is phenomenal). They're all older series and movies ... But stick out and stick with you. Also Blue Ruin (mentioned in the video) and Green Room are worth it.
@@notmyrealpseudonym6702 yup, I've seen both Blue Ruin and Wind River, both are excellent. Haven't had a chance to check out Hell or high water yet, it's in my ever expanding list of stuff to catch up on. I'll check out the rest of the suggestions, thank you
the thing nobody talks about is how there isn't actual detective work being done.. like literally all loopholes and negatives things aside - does it actually fit the genre of a detective show?
Season 2 always gave me the vibe of the writer trying to mimic the progression of The Wire - wanting to expand the scope of the world and cover multiple distinct places in each season. It really did not work for me though.
"True Detective: On A Space Station" can work, if it's another go at adapting Stanisław Lem's Solaris?
Edit: Now that I think about it, if anyone wants to make a retro-futuristic spooky/disturbing hard sci-fi Space Detective type of series they can adapt Lem's "Tales of Pirx the Pilot" stories.
Hey The Expanse is a space detective show.
They did a Cloverfield sequel (or whatever they call those movies after the first one) on a space station and it was so bad that it finished off the series... so, maybe True Detective In Space is precisely what we need. Put the damn thing out of its misery... and ours.
@@k2sworldFrom what I recall the all the films after Cloverfield were originally their own stories that had the Cloverfield tag glued on as a cash grab.
You say that the iconic opening credits have influenced numerous fiction and nonfiction title sequences ever since. However, it looks to me like an adaptation of the opening sequence of the older True Blood series.
I would be very interested to hear a Georg monologue on the series "Legion". I found it mind bending and thoroughly wtf entertaining.
That would be an interesting watch.
Yep, season 1's lead performances were slam dunk outstanding.
The rest of the cast was superb also..guy who played rev Tuttle was fantastic and his only scene was a masterclass from him and Rust.
True Detective set in 90's Seattle. A Seattle detective with a drinking problem (Ballentine beer) has to enlist the help of his psychiatrist sons to get into the mind of a killer who has been decapitating and stealing the skulls of members of the local opera board. Twist: it was the seal!
detective series in 90s- literally plot of the Killing. And pretty damn good one
@@gulinp1 Another good recommendation, though slightly after 90's, is State of Play (2003). Yes it's labelled as a 'political thriller' but it's actually a detective story. FAR better than the pretty limp and rushed American movie version.
As a true detective I was here 7 Minutes after the crime was comitted.
S4 ending a bunch of nerds just joined in when they found one of em stabbing a woman. Every one, not even a single one was asleep or something.
The woman who finds the dead bodies followed a ghost, was that what she told the police and they believed her? Maybe they were close to her land I dunno would need to check.
Danvers is portrayed as sharp but she doesn't understand what preventing celular decay might mean? Rubbing salt in the wound with "in English, nerd".
They almost froze to death at the end but when the storm stopped they jumped in a car and drove home, couldla sat in the car with the heating on ya know.
That was my thought. The lab had trucks with probably enough gas to run for a week... why not jump in one of those and pump up the heater to 10.
It's about time they give up and remake season one of True Detective with both main characters recast with... motion capture, deep-fakes of Peter Falk as two, simultaneous Columbos.
Columbo only goes after affluent criminals, though. This would only work if the second one is a bizzaro doppelgänger who is sharply dressed, drives a BMW and harasses the poor.
beautifully said. after season 4 ended my friends and I went on scathing tirades about the feeble references. it was almost liek the oranges were contrived JUST so she could peel it into a spiral... HBO exec: wouldn't that be aPEELing?
why the rotten tomato so high for season 4? What am I missing?
The next one should definetely be set on a space station.
Just like Hellraiser: Bloodline.
Or Jason X.
I liked that one more than I should. It did make its own kind of sense and as a final instalment, it could work. The last in the blood line making one last puzzle box that can finally seal away the cenobites etc.
@@ptonpc - Yes, a space station sized puzzlebox was quite a good idea.
A final 'gotcha'.
Love that Hellraiser movie.
Just realized it. Mic has been a central piece of two scenes that have so much tension I need only to slightly remember them to feel it. Interstellar: When he had to dock the ship during that impossible spinning, and in True Detective when they enter that hood disguised as police. Master class, both of em. Goosebumps
“Who Goes There” from season 1 is most certainly in the top 5 of best episodes in television history. It’s a masterclass in suspense, and the single-shot they do during the riot in the projects is beautifully executed.
"I guess that's when we realised, that the real True Detective, was the friends we made along the way".
I like when he saids I am the true detective
Was that before or after he detectived all over?
I cried a little when Party said, "No Dust, you're the True Detective". After that Dust detected all over Party.
I gave up when the research station vanished from the story. I was interested in what it would be like to live isolated in one of those, like overwintering at the south pole, but I ended up just staring at that one lady's face for three episodes and lost interest completely.
My wife and I watched season 1 as it came out and found it very endearing and funny! Yes, it was played all dark and brutal, but it was just too camp to take it seriously. The two cliché buddy cops, both caught up in their toxic ways, and then meeting up again decades later to become better, or at least more tolerable, people - that was the real hook of the show.
To us the story was these two guys and their relationship, so any subsequent season might as well be a different show.
If they make season 5 in space there's a good chance it will suddenly become a Cloverfield for marketing purposes and we'll have come full flat circle.
Almost nothing in Season 4 made any sense. They have a police chief who is somehow appointed by a captain from another city, an officer *demoted* to Alaska State Trooper and locals who somehow think a frozen pile of naked scientists is goofy fun to take selfies next to. None of it rings true. There's no awareness of the different kinds of cold, either. So it will go from slushy to so cold humans can freeze instantly in the same scenes. Whatever the plot needs.
Yes. That. And didn't they say in the beginning that they didn't freeze to death at all and in the end they did? And why did the victims have a panicky expression if they froze in the dark?
I actually waited for the polar bear to be real, would have made much more sense.
For me the "tiny circular mirror" is the peak detail in season 1.
Rust can check his eyes don't look shot through due to his narcotics use while undercover but he doesn't have to see his face which helps him remain in character.....
That really blew my simple mind away.
This is unrelated to the video, but as a quick aside, Im very glad you keep a website with videos deleted by this platform. Just A Thought 26 genuinley made me feel better in a dark time by giving me new rhetoric in a funny package, but I couldn't find it for a while. I'm glad it still exists.
You’re the first person I’ve heard say this! Fukunaga is the main reason season one was so good! I’m extra bitter because he was set to direct the It remake… I can only imagine how good a horror movie from him would be
It would have been interesting to hear a more detailed take on the critical vs audience reception of S4. Had to be the most blatant media toadying in recent memory; it's like they watched an entirely different show!
Couldn’t agree more.
We all know why they praise it, it has nothing to do with quality, writing, dialogue, chemistry or anything the average viewer is looking for in any show.
I'm sure Georg knows too, which is why he only touched upon it, in that we all know why.
Watched....??
Making anything after season one was a huge mistake, it was perfection
excellent analysis, Georg. despite True Detective's previous track record of inconsistent quality, I found season 4 frankly shocking in how dreadful it was. I'm not convinced the people who loved it are actually real people.
This guy suddenly pops up in my feed. Years and years after I had never watched a single video of his. I thought he was dead.
Season 2 is incredible. The gun fight was intense with very unpredictable results.
Fifth (space) season will just be a very long adaptation od Solaris...
_Goddammit,_ I wrote basically the same thing before I read the comments... _Stanishive Lemmind_
When a show is great, always stop watching after the season wraps with a conclusive ending.
I found True Detective Season 1's 'resolution' to be pretty poor actually. I feel like most people gloss over the stupidity in finding a 'guy with green ears' is actually the school custodian. Everything leading up to those last two episodes is great, and a lot of those last two episodes were solid too- but come on, was I the only one who felt like the investigation portion fell apart at the end.
Season 2 does have some great scenes.
Season 3 is really, really good.
I'd call moments from the first three seasons haunting, but i'd call the entire first season haunting and everything except the undercover episode perfection.
man your summary of season 2 was awesome. it put into words things ive felt about it since watching but havent been able to articulate, especially the sense of it wallowing in purgatorial atmosphere
Season 2 is underrated. People need to go back and watch it on its own merits
Re-watched all recently. 1 and 3 are excellent. 2 was bad and 4 is unforgivable. If no one from the originals was involved in 4 they shouldn't be using the name to con people into watching it.
Fukunaga and Pizzolatto were a dynamic duo, with Fukunaga anchoring and spurring Pizzolatto's excellent but unfocused writing along. It's a shame that they couldn't continue the series together.
Was the entrance to the ice tunnel not miles away from the research station and yet they arrived at the hidden lab under the research station after walking around the ice tunnels for about 6 minutes.
I was hoping after season 1 it would be like an anthology where every season is a different story but based around different types of detectives.
Like for one season maybe it could be about a private detective who’s kind of a anti-hero, and he’s investigating a guy who’s wife thinks he’s having a affair, but then it turns out the guy gets murdered, and then it turns out the wife wasn’t the actual wife, and then at one point a guy stabs him in the nose, and then there’s this whole thing about water rights or something, and then somebody gets shot, and then a guy goes “forget about Chinatown, Jake” or something like that, I don’t know I didn’t really understand it but everyone says it’s good
Michael Swaim's idea of Dinosaur Detective needs to see the light of day for season 5.
I had the same thoughts about Stranger Things but that show has no excuse because all of the seasons were in the hands of the show creators. The first season had only one glaring flaw and that was the creature designs...sorry, but monsters with flower mouths only look scary but if you think about the nature of it all, it has no ability to bite or chew worth a crap and therefor just makes the monster an unappealing thing to look at and not a deadly threat unless they're poisonous or something.
Anyway, they fixed that small issue in season 2 but then started their journey towards fan service and trying to "explain things" instead of letting the mind fill in the gaps however the viewer wants. And each bit of explanation made the story worse. The saving grace was at least the characters are fun to watch, but the stories overall either were too flimsy for the amount of episodes and thus filled with fan service or they're just fan service.
The series is very good overall, but season 1, also, was stand alone and not meant to be continued and I wish it had stayed that way. I am not a "they ruined it!" guy but knowing the answers to the "what if the show kept going" makes the experience bittersweet on rewatch.
Totally agree. I feel the worst moment in s4 was when a character just blurted out the "time is a flat circle" line from season 1. It just came out of nowhere and had nothing to do with the plot, there was no context at all. It felt like the Star Wars sequels with "It's another death star". This moment encapsulates the season as a whole: a lazy rehash and call back to something better. Instead of doing something original they chose to tell a story that says nothing with a lazy reliance on the pre-established brand. A shame too, the setting and indigenous aspects were interesting.
I hated season 2, and only finished it because Vince Vaughn was genuinely good, which was the opposite of what I expected. My only other real memory of it is clicking that Closeted Cop was about to die suddenly because the action scene was suspiciously long, then realizing he was Tom Sizemore, and I was watching an inverted Heat, Vaughn's character being the criminal mirror of Al Pacino, etc. So I guessed they would all die except Val Kilmer, I mean Rachel McAdams, and then got genuinely irritated that I was right.
I may be a lousy detective, but ask me how writers think when they have literally no idea what to write, and I'll crack that case like Columbo based on the least significant clue possible.
'I've got a bad taste in my mouth out here' as I will say on my next trip up to Stoke.
I quite liked season 3, even though I am a bit bored with the "unfortunate events" kind of resolutions. People pushing each other and accidentally smashing each other heads on concrete during arguments and the like, something I had my lifetime fill of thanks to many Scandinavian noir TV shows alone (and some of their American/British remakes). At the same time, I had a similar frustration to yours - it being less mystery/plot-driven. Still, admirable and respectable.
Season 5 in space would be kinda cool. You could go full eldritch horror
Glad to see that people are sticking up for Season 3. I think it was pretty solid, primarily guilty of the crime of not being Season 1.
One reason: Woody and Matthew have chemistry like no one else.
Season 5 could be a mash-up with Fantasy Island, where two guests become detectives and investigate the occult tinged murder of an heiress. Or something
True detective 5 -- the detectives search for a compelling plot line
Georg has an incredible talent for reading aloud pretty straightforward facts about a piece of media but then leaving a long dramatic pause over the B roll of footage that completely undercuts it. I think he may be in possession of the most dry wit on UA-cam as a whole.
True detective on space is "Outland"
@Georg, what will you do with the carrier pigeons?
Having rewatched Season 3 recently, its my favourite. The performances from the whole cast are incredible. The writing is great without tending towards smug sophistry the way 1 and 2 did. It also seems to avoid exposition and lecturing in a way that would be seemingly impossible if it was made today. Criminally underrated.
This is why The Wire is so incredible - varied casts and POVs throughout multiple seasons, from the Cops and Bangers, to Schools, The Press and even Teamsters/longshoremen - and remained strong and engaging throughout almost the entire runtime.. only right at the end of the final season did it start getting dry
Imo, one of the best shows ever recorded
Recommend Fargo, too, particularly the season with Chris Rock
I feel like what made season one so good was because the main characters were truly three-dimensional. Much of the season was spent on exploring these fallible and interesting dimensions we could relate to, which were then combined with the slowly unraveling, unpleasant background of the bayou. Like there was as much dirt beyond the facade of the characters as there was with the surrounding environment. The further you go on the seasons the more shallow the characters get. There just isn’t enough effort in the writing to create that multi-dimensional environment.
I've watched all seasons recently. In my order of preference: S1 > S3 > S2 > S4. 1 and 3 are something rather special, with 1 being a standout because of the cosmicist philosophy and great acting. 2 is like a completely different series, and 4 really jumps the shark.
Georg, talk about more schlock please. Franchises, good or bad. From the Nolan Batman trilogy to the transformers or marvel films. Your perspective is unique enough to warrant more videos on these topics.
Yeah, HBO taking a standalone script for season four and cramming in a lot of nebulous references to season one really didn't do the story any favors. I really wanted to like this season, so much. I really liked the performances by all of the the actors, but, man, it all just turned into a bunch of hand-wavy "whelp, that's the story!" nonsense at the end. [waving hands around] "woooOOOooooOOooo!" 🤪There really is the kernel of a good tale in there somewhere. It just got ruined by your typical corporate gobbledygook. "Yeah, see! The people will really dig stuff like this, see! Yeah, yeah, see?" (That's my impression of a cartoonish multi-millionaire executive waving a cigar around while talking like a 1920s gangster from a 1940s motion picture.) 😉
Aww, bummer. I had hopes. Not high hopes or particular enthusiasm, but hopes that this one would turn it around particularly with Foster. Maybe I'll re-binge season 1 this weekend instead...or there's this Expanse show I've never gotten around to because I want to just immerse and absorb it and who can find that kinda time, y'know.
The Expanse was one of my favorites ever. It takes about 3 episodes to really get going so stick with it.
I had completeley forgoten about the gun fight in S02. Gohst walking the the desert, Female copper with a knife for every occasion, stayed with me.
My jaw was agape for the entirety of the revenge of the cleaning ladies reveal. holy s*** I can't believe how bad that last season was. Truly inspiring.
my first reaction to season 4 was"this should have been part of the terror anthologies, not true detective"
I enjoyed Night Country for what it is: an epic, 6 episodes mid season arc in the X files. You know, back when the WGA wasn't that strong and writers had to come up with like 30 hour-long episodes a year
Even though the Chambers mythos was a nice bonus, I'd love to see more like it. Just need the same writer, and same level of actor. Dude wrote up what...400 pages of backstory for his character? Safe to say acting is important to him.
I would like to see a 1950s, gritty noir setting tbh.
And it’ll be interesting because serial killers weren’t known in the 50s as such. It’ll be interesting seeing detectives while also battling a serial killer, they also are conflicted with the state of law and politics at the time. Given how most murders were domestic violence and not in random patterns.
Season 1 was and is, it’s own thing. It’s a very well written, complex show and with actual detective work.
I really couldn’t care too much for the others as much, but should still least give them a watch at some point and there ain’t no season 4. lol
I’m over still waiting for Mindhunter Season 3 but hey, i can still dream.
On a riverboat! That's brilliant mate! But make it nineteen hundredths steam boat, and one of the pilot's who will help the sheriff's solve the crime will be Samuel Clemens
And it will involve racial tensions and injustice in the south on the brink of civil war. Hell, part of it can be set DURING the civil war. How many supernatural crime dramas have been set in this period? We struck gold here. And this time is vampires. I want Jasper of Twilight origin story so bad. ☹
It seems Pizolatto's legacy has fizzledouto
I'd like to see a True Detective featuring crime on a train, perhaps calling it Murder on the Orient Express?
It´s a 1 season show and I wisely checked out of S4 after ep 2, even took a month-long break between ep 1 and 2. I should have stopped halfway through S2 though.
You're quite right, that this show was 1 season, with a bunch of other shit that they pretended was related. I won't be wasting my time with the fourth season thanks to your advice, but I thought the third season in its own way was nearly as good as the first. I remember both seasons fondly.
Season 5: Angela Lansbury and Columbo team up to solve a string of murders connected to The Golden Girls, but will the evidence be enough for Matlock to make a case?
Season 1 of True Detective was amazing, it felt like a perfect pairing with Mind Hunters, which I watched at the same time. Season 2 was okay, it lost the focus that 1 had. Even though Vince Vaughn's performances don't stray far from tree.. I like him. Even though I've loved Mahershala Ali since The 4400, I lost interest. I heard bad things about Season 4 and kept it at bay with my Disney / Marvel barge pole.
I have never seen the show, but I saw the recent trailer and said to myself, "This looks like they lost the plot, here".
Funny, because what put me off season 2 was vince Vaughn, his monologue about a childhood trauma felt like vince vaughn practicing his monologue at home the night before an audition.
Season 5 on Lindisfarne Island. Oh no, the tide goes down in 5 hours. We've got to find the killer before he can get back to the mainland.
I felt the format should have worked. Stand alone stories in the same universe. Heck, yes you even have one set on a space station, a confined space, no way to get off easily etc. Just a thought. All that metal through the face while on duty as a cop. In freezing weather, without face protection. I'm sure that would work really well...
My vote is for True Detective: In Space! I also think that the detectives should be Danny Trejo (as himself, not playing a character, he's just a detective now) and a CGI chimera of Johnny Depp and Keanu Reeves playing a tough Chinese detective chasing down a drug dealer, who is from space - hence the location for the series.
i love that you still keep the lava lamp
I enjoyed this video. Thanks for making it.
Bro true detective season one is the single greatest show i have ever seen.