Well I just watched that great video and went to the website only to find that the company has gone into liquidation ! Gutted, looked like a great system.
Hi Kevin, our free Lite plan now allows Unlimited Sensors. There are no other costs other than the upfront system purchase. Check out the monthly plans page on our website for more info.
@@NorthWalesCampers That's because we do still have plans with monthly fees but our Lite plan doesn't. The monthly plans page gives you all the information of what's included in each plan. Thanks, Tom
How's it brilliant? Wasn't innovative at all, you get back to the 80's with only PIR and door contacts, just a huge marketing around it, no wonder why it went into liquidation and it's now useless, biggest scam ever...
Before ordering you should be aware that a monthly subscription of £9.99 applies if you want to protect anything bigger than a shed. Boundary will sell you the package shown which includes six sensors. If you want to use more than two you have to subscribe.
Hi Gerry, our free Lite plan now allows Unlimited Sensors. There are no other costs other than the upfront system purchase. Check out the monthly plans page on our website for more info.
@@johnsteed9083 Hi John, our free Lite plan now allows Unlimited Sensors. There are no other costs other than the upfront system purchase. Check out the monthly plans page on our website for more info.
@@FlatEric971 Hi there, our free Lite plan now allows Unlimited Sensors. There are no other costs other than the upfront system purchase. Check out the monthly plans page on our website for more info.
just been contacted by boundary they have adjudged the pay monthly plan so you can have unlimited sensors. dont know why they did it in the first place as it put myself and many others off buying this system. well done boundary for listening
Sadly the monthly plan cost kills this one. Pointless to be able to only pair 2 sensors so the paid subscription is necessary at £120/year. Close, but no cigar.
Yep. I was going to purchase the medium package but stopped short when I saw I had to commit to a monthly subscription to get full features from the mobile phone app!
Hi there, our free Lite plan now allows Unlimited Sensors. There are no other costs other than the upfront system purchase. Check out the monthly plans page on our website for more info. Thanks, Tom
@@Firetech1961 Hi Nick, our free Lite plan now allows Unlimited Sensors. There are no other costs other than the upfront system purchase. Check out the monthly plans page on our website for more info. Thanks, Tom
As you know I love your channel but as someone who has worked in the professional security industry for the last 30 years and currently works for the world’s largest independent security manufacturer, I get frustrated by equipment that meets no British / EN standards and where people get either tied into expensive monthly fees or paying excessive monthly fees for apps. Police response can only be achieved if the equipment complies to EN standards and is installed by a NSI or SSAIB accredited company. Please do your homework, like everything in life you get what you pay for. Rant over.
I agree entirely. I'm a (retired) security installer. I wouldn't want a battery powered bell box. I'll be too old soon to get up the ladders. None of my kit ever had monthly charges either!
Hi Simon, Robin from Boundary here. You might not know this but our system is going through independent lab testing to achieve EN50131 certification. We expect it to be finalised by April with most tests passed at this stage. Boundary is SSIAB registered also
Hi Joe, our free Lite plan now allows Unlimited Sensors. There are no other costs other than the upfront system purchase. Check out the monthly plans page on our website for more info. Thanks, Tom
Hi there, our free Lite plan now allows Unlimited Sensors. There are no other costs other than the upfront system purchase. Check out the monthly plans page on our website for more info.
@@doctorlove2022 Hi Sean, our free Lite plan now allows Unlimited Sensors. There are no other costs other than the upfront system purchase. Check out the monthly plans page on our website for more info.
Hi Gordon, our free Lite plan now allows Unlimited Sensors. There are no other costs other than the upfront system purchase. Check out the monthly plans page on our website for more info. Thanks, Tom
Thanks for your post. Unfortunately my son bought a two box system from them and had nothing but trouble. They were very unhelpful throughout so I'm not surprised to hear of their demise.He's now having to make a claim with his bank as he fortunately paid by credit card.
Always being advised to protect myself with a very easily installed system. However,I am happy with the stuff I installed myself,door alarms,sensors,automatic lights,which I have found to be the best value. An alarm would set the neighbours against me eventually,so I prefer the quiet gadgets,and securely locked doors and windows. Incidentally,I do not oil or grease the window latches because I want to hear any being forced. The door hinges squeak quite loudly too. Being alert is the best weapon against intruders,and keeping a weapon handy.
Just got the big package for £270! what a bargain. Thanks! The £9.99 a month, I get that people don't want to pay it, but might be a good idea to see if your premiums for home insurance will go lower to justify the monthly fee? I know some insurers won't acknowledge an alarm system, but worth a try!
From my experience insurance companies will only offer discounts if the alarm system is fitted by a reputable security company and is serviced yearly to ensure it's still working correctly.
Liquidation …. We are sorry to advise that Boundary Technologies Limited has ceased to trade due to financial difficulties and that Graeme Bain of Johnston Carmichael has been appointed as Provisional Liquidator of the company by Edinburgh Sheriff Court. As a result, the company is unfortunately no longer in a position to provide ongoing technical support to customers.
One thing to note is that for the Level 1 police response the external alarm must be professionally installed as noted on their site "Police-response systems, such as ours at Boundary, have an outdoor siren that must be professionally installed onto the exterior of your property. "
Which is BS, yes it does need a professional installer that's either NSI or SSAIB approved, then they need to apply to the local police force for URN (average £60 pa additional paid to the police) but they're forcing the sale of an externals sounder that's not needed..
Brilliant video as always and I couldn’t quite believe the 45% discount code… I even started to sweet talk the wife into looking at it… until I saw the monthly fee. Poor show on Boundaries part I think there… fair enough having more features etc for the paid for version but limiting sensors is a bit tight. Thanks again for the video.
Hi there, our free Lite plan now allows unlimited sensors pairings so no restrictions. You can also arm/disarm via the app, partial arm via the hub, and integrate with the likes of Alexa, Google Home and IFTTT on the free plan. Hope that helps. Thanks, Tom
Great video! Impressive alarm system and a great discount. Only problem is they are all out of stock. I hope Boundary will restock soon and extend the discount.
Great video thanks Stuart. I had to install alarm one of the battery type alarm unit at my daughter’s house made by Yale. I did have a lot of problems with the batteries supplied going flat and the double sided tape not sticking very well. But some good new batteries and 3m tape solved all the problems. The unit you used, looks so much better than the Yale ones.
In light of these going bust, and the Google Nest alarm system shutting down at a similar time, I'd HIGHLY recommend getting standard alarm equipment and running your own system via Home Assistant or SmartThings or similar. I used a Konnected board to use my existing wired door/window/motion sensors and siren in a smart alarm, then added Zigbee wireless sensors (battery life 2 years from a watch style battery) to add other rooms. All of it is controlled in Home Assistant with the "Alarmo" addon and will still work 10 years from now even if all the manufacturers go bust, as long as my Home Assistant raspberry pi stays plugged in. Never buy hardware that relies on someone else's goodwill or server time to keep it running.
Morning Stuart, another great video and thanks for introducing a great product. Hope your staying safe in the current stormy conditions. Best wishes Michael
Hi Stephen, our free Lite plan now allows Unlimited Sensors. There are no other costs other than the upfront system purchase. Check out the monthly plans page on our website for more info. Thanks, Tom
As others have stated, this company have ceased trading. The liquidators are Johnston Carmichael (Edinburgh). Some of the sensors may be compatible with other systems, so you may not have to throw the whole system in the bin.
Hi Dave, our free Lite plan now allows Unlimited Sensors. There are no other costs other than the upfront system purchase. Check out the monthly plans page on our website for more info. Thanks, Tom
I had a Verisure system put in about a year ago having never come across this Boundary package. I’m paying around £40 a month, so the Boundary at only a tenner a month seems like a bargain, although I don’t think there was any upfront cost with the Verisure. Good video and great production values as usual!
Get a professional installer to sort you out, costs alot less than these scammers are charging. Ask your insurers if it's recognised as a maintained system.
I think you ought to have stated up front that it was a subscription based model. Other than that it was an informative and interesting video, thanks for sharing.
Hi there, our free Lite plan now allows Unlimited Sensors. There are no other costs other than the upfront system purchase. Check out the monthly plans page on our website for more info. Thanks, Tom
Great video. If we can give any advice it would be don't advertise your security system by placing stickers or signs outside your house. These systems are subject to defeat by interfering with the signals. Since this is a public forum I'm not going to be more specific. There's plenty of information for those interested. Merry Christmas too you and your family. God bless 🙏🎄
Hey Stuart, you really should take this video down now as I am sure you know Boundary went bust earlier this year leaving us all with a useless system. Just for the record, I moved to the Yale Smart Home Alarm system which is about the same sort of price range and so far seems to work pretty well.
Another good video. My concern is the frequency of battery changes. As the batteries aged in my Arlo wireless camera system it seemed like I was up the ladder every few weeks to remove and recharge a battery in one of the cameras. After replacing the batteries when they wore out I ended up paying $100 more for each camera to fit a solar panel to each. Problem solved. Similar to cameras, although perhaps less demanding on a battery, any device that is constantly triggered by movement such as infra-red sensors is likely to be hard on batteries. As we get older we need to spend less time up ladders!
It’s a valid concern. When our pro subscription launches our annual maintenance includes battery changes. We’re currently forecasting a minimum of one year from all batteries, with options like disabling the the LED on sensors to increase this. We’re also working on firmware updates to make battery life more efficient. Zwave 700 as a protocol is low energy by nature so we think that there are improvements to be made!
I was in the alarm business for a time and I have never found a standard alarm monitoring system that guarantees they will get the police out? All they can do is make police aware but if there is no confirmation that someone is there they do not have to attend. Just a footnote Boundary went bust in March!
Great bit of kit and a great how to video. Just curious about where you plugged it into. Noticed you didn’t plug it into the double socket near where you placed the hub. Is there another socket lower down? 🤷♂️😎
Another great video. I just have one gripe. I just went on the site to look at buying the medium bundle. The only way to buy without a monthly subscription (which I don't want) is to buy the lite which only has x2 sensors. Quite dissapointing.
If you have a wired system it will cost you about that for your annual maintenance contract for it although you can always decide not to have it. Also in terms of future flexibility this is so cost effective to add sensors…
@@GordieK I fitted a wireless Swann system around 10 years ago. I liked the App part of this so would have liked to swap out and install this. I just need a system I can access online like my cctv. I don't want to be forced to take a monthly subscription. I can replace batteries and maintain myself.
Hi Mark, our free Lite plan now allows Unlimited Sensors. There are no other costs other than the upfront system purchase. Check out the monthly plans page on our website for more info. Thanks, Tom
great video when me and my mrs got our first home earlier this month i went for a hybrid alarm system wired motion detectors ,wired external sounder,the the only wireless was window sesnsors as the frames are pvc
Hello Stuart, I really enjoy your channel with its clear explanations and useful tips. I'm interested in the Boundary Alarm system but I have a question. I understand that you need the internet to set up the various sensors and to get them to "talk" to your phone, but if the internet modem suffers a power failure or if the telephone line is cut will the sensors still trigger the siren if they are activated? I'm guessing that the answer is probably "yes" but you will no longer get the alert on your phone. Is that correct? Thank you
I realise that this excellent video is over 12 months old now, but I just took a look on their website with a view to purchasing. Looks like your discount won't work anymore as the have gone into liquidation. Any similar products you can recommend? Keep up the good work.
Hi Tom, our free Lite plan now allows Unlimited Sensors. There are no other costs other than the upfront system purchase. Check out the monthly plans page on our website for more info. Thanks, Tom
Really great video as always. Probably I'd enjoy you showing us how to do the dishes properly. Regarding the door sensor, the small part is basically just a magnet, so in fact you could just fit a small magnet there. And yes, it's probably hard to find one that fits nicel right there, but good to know.
Was very tempted to invest in this system after watching the video, but on searching found that the company has been liquidated so assume the alarm doesn’t work anymore.
a quick google search reveals that boundary alarms company has gone into liquidation in early 2023. Mr Proper DIY, you should put a sticky comment on this video and perhaps give an update to viewers as to what the state of your installed system currently is
When fixing the door switches it's usual to fix the magnet, the small part in your case, to the door and fix the larger part, the reed switch to the frame. This will prevent the reed switch from moving and banging around when the door is being shut.
Great video and such an easy system to set up, also love the Morecambe and Wise reference with the Des O'Conner music ha ha ha. Stay Safe, Barry (Wirral)
Issues for me are: - the web site recommends 6 sensors when I state only 3 rooms downstairs (should this be 2 sensors per room?) - Unless you pay an additional £120 a year contract, you can only pair 2 sensors to the system?
Work it out based on how many windows/door openings there are. Easy to do. In terms of the subscription I paid more for a wired system in a previous house and then every time I wanted a change it cost me a small fortune. Compare this with Verisure and see. Also be aware the discounts available are huge at the moment with a promo code. Brilliant system in my view and the monthly fee is more than acceptable to me… installed this about 2 months ago .. great kit
@@GordieK Subscription systems to be able to use your own kit is a terrible business model for clients but a great money grab for businesses. Its all too common these days as well and as its cloud based, internet outages or a hack at boundary and you are at the mercy of whatever happens to that third party. There is a reason CCTV and Alarms have a virtual air gap in professional setups.
@@Amped-JDS yes it is cloud based but remember the outdoor siren doesn’t depend on that as the system uses zwave …. Tbh posting anything on here has its security issues as well and I doubt the data boundary have of me is any different to what many cloud based companies do .. at some point we need to lose wires … Ring uses subscription , EZVIZ uses subscription as do many many others .. it’s not a valid reason not to go with it in this day and age …
@@GordieK of course it's a valid reason, you are just drinking the koolaid and believing the subscription is needed. Just because everyone is jumping on the bandwagon doesn't make it right, it means people are just not able to think for themselves and look at the better alternatives. No subscription for pretty much the same system with Yale. It's not so much a worry about what these companies know, it's about the fact they can disable your alarm which with malicious intent is a bad thing.
@@Amped-JDS You're right. Ongoing monthly costs are awful for domestic systems. Used to be the same with monitored alarms and paying for two services a year, bought the thing 20 times over. Plenty of wireless systems out there without subscriptions and apps.
Another brilliant video and tempted but the Lite package is pretty pointless, doesn’t explain how you’re notified if the alarm goes off. So I can be enjoying a holiday with the alarm going off driving my neighbours mad and I’m none the wiser. Of course that’s why you then have to pay £120 a year for push notifications.
Hi Tony, our free Lite plan now allows Unlimited Sensors. There are no other costs other than the upfront system purchase. Check out the monthly plans page on our website for more info. Thanks, Tom
I really wanted to purchase a boundary system until I realised you had to use their own ZWave system. The property I live in is almost like a complex with out buildings that need to be protected. We have to use a mesh Wi-Fi system as regular Wi-Fi will not reach the out buildings, but mesh works brilliantly. If Boundary can’t utilise WiFi then I’d have to run multiple of their ZWaves just to protect the out buildings, which means I have to purchase two subscriptions just to get it to work. Such a shame as I was ready to pull the trigger a couple of days ago as it looked great.
Hi there, our free plan now allows unlimited sensors pairings - so you wouldn't need to purchase multiple subscriptions. We can also provide Z-wave range help extenders to cover outbuildings etc. Hope that helps.
Looks interesting. Have a wired alarm system but we only have 1 PIR for the hallway. Most of the windows have contact sensors. It seems boundary tends to use PIRs as the main protection but how does that work say at night time? You probably wouldn't want your PIRs on in case you accidentally set them off going to the kitchen for a drink but then if an intruder comes in through a window with no contact sensor, you're exposed. I get you can order more sensors but find it interesting their bundles all come with only 2 contact sensors for doors and none for windows
Sorry, we were catching up! The night set built into the app will automatically disable the PIRs and leave all the contacts armed. You can wander around inside but still feel safe at night! You can also mix and match if you prefer as we support multiple part set scenarios so you could even leave a few PIRs armed if you wish.
I can feed my German Shepherd for the same monthly fee as the pro system.... And trust me he doesn't miss a trick and is more of a deterrent than a little alarm box on a wall :) Excellent video though, and you are right about how easy it is to install. My only reservation is that it needs batteries in the alarm unit, which hopefully won't need replacing at frequent intervals as it's not much of a deterrent if the alarm is quiet or fails to sound.
Hi Malcolm, our alarm system also doesn't need taking for regular walks 😉 On the battery life, we’re currently forecasting a minimum of one year from all batteries, with options like disabling the the LED on sensors to increase this even further. We’re also working on firmware updates to make battery life more efficient. Thanks, Tom
It will be interesting to see how long the actual bell box batteries last as they will be exposed to the cold temperatures of our weather. Great idea having the app on your phone. Got to say though, no drilling. How on earth will your walls ever become like pin cushions 😂
Really great video as always. Couple of questions, 1. if the internet is down does it still work? 2. if your away from home and the alarm is triggered, will you get alerted via your phone??. thanks again for great real world videos!😀
Hi Anthony, to answer your questions: 1. The sensors and hub can still communicate if the wi-fi goes down as they're on a secure Z-Wave network. The only functionality you'd lose is connection to the app. We do have a cellular back-up upgrade for the Hub that adds a 4G roaming network if desired so connection can be maintained at all times. 2. If away from your home, you will receive a push notification via the app, a text message and an automated voice call - so you shouldn't miss it when you alarm gets triggered. Hope that helps. Tom @ Boundary
@@DiHandley why would you need WAN to communicate over LAN? The devices all connect to the hub (in essence LAN) Losing WAN (Sky, BT, Vrigin etc) wouldn't affect the door sensor communicating with the panel....
I'm in the process of installing mine. It's a great system. Very easy to setup, very well designed interface and well built. £10 a month for support and updates is a bargain. The existence of a monthly subscription is part of the reason I went for this system. I want them around as long as I have it and that is far more likely to happen if they have reliable monthly recurring revenue for a variety of reasons.
Love the vids, as for this one it assumes good wifi coverage everywhere from the router. Just a thought, would love your actions to check and overcome any dead areas you found when setting your wifi up.
I love this system. Installed it a few weeks ago. Loving the partial arming capability. My only gripe is the usb plug for the hub …. I hate external trunking with a passion so at some point I will invest in swapping that big plug out to be a hidden wire into a fuse spur of some kind….
@@GordieK minor? Are you qualified to make that call? 99% of people aren't but we still have a huge number of have a go heroes in the country and lucky for me they keep me in work. Shame it's usually after the 🔥
@@Amped-JDS omg here we come with the ‘nobody knows what they are doing unless they are qualified ‘ bs …. Another sparky or installer trying to justify their fee? If it took a qualified installer more than 2 hours to do that then they should get another job … so yea it’s minor … get a life .. your just trolling now
Hi, when you look at the specs for system, battery life is VERY poor by todays standards, most other wireless systems are nearer 4 to 6 years for sensors. Visonic even quote up to 8 years for siren & PIR's and the app is free as well.
Does anybody actually respond to a neighbours alarm if it goes off? Most people just curse them and complain about the noise. Burglars know this and carry on even if an alarm sounds as it will take police an age to respond if someone actually does bother to call them.
When a family member was burgled years ago, the police attended and explained the reason the house was chosen was because it was the only one in the road without a visible alarm. They stated alarms act as deterrent only and although the burglary took place at 3pm in the summer, not a single neighbour saw or heard anything.
Hi Geoff, our free Lite plan now allows Unlimited Sensors. There are no other costs other than the upfront system purchase. Check out the monthly plans page on our website for more info. Thanks, Tom
Another great video and a very nice, neat and simple alarm system. Any advice on where to install the siren on a bungalow? I was thinking on a chimney, so higher up, but worried it's too exposed to weather?
They suggest at a height that you cannot reach but doesn't need to be way up either. I wouldn't worry about weather - it's well protected. Remember that as it is battery operated you need to be able to get to it again to change the batteries in the future.
Batteries in the siren ??? Monthly Subscription ??? If you are any way tech savvy look into Home Assistant as a free open source framework for bringing all your smart devices together. Then look into Shelly and SONOFF for smart devices, sensors etc and do this yourself. The resulting DIY solution runs locally on your own Network, Is not dependent on or vulnerable to any third party charges, connections or even them closing down etc.
I’m also interested as I’m in the same boat having used Stuart’s affiliate link. Never finished protecting the whole house though so I’m after something else similar
great vid as usual! is it me or is the spirit level in a strange position? you can only see it on the back of the unit? how are you supposed to see it when you are hanging it? lol edit: watch the rest of the video to see how the level is visible lol 👍
Another useful video as always, thanks! Which electrical detector did you use? Many of the ones I have tried have been useless but yours looked quite accurate
Looks a good system but I wouldn't want to pay a subscription. I have a yale I fitted myself with a couple of sensors and a basic keypad but does the job..... Good video...
Hi Simon, our free Lite plan now allows Unlimited Sensors. There are no other costs other than the upfront system purchase. Check out the monthly plans page on our website for more info. Thanks, Tom
Wow I like that system , I will have to look into get that for my home. It’s so easy to install and use even I could install it. Brilliant video Stuart. As always 👍👍👍❤️
i woudnt bother - I just bought one based on this video and wish i hadn't. Nicely packaged wow looks the part but in reality fall well short of a basic good stable alarm system. check the 1 star on trust pilot - same experience unfortunately.
Well I just watched that great video and went to the website only to find that the company has gone into liquidation !
Gutted, looked like a great system.
Great video and the system looks brilliant. The only thing you didn’t mention was the monthly subscription.
Hi Kevin, our free Lite plan now allows Unlimited Sensors. There are no other costs other than the upfront system purchase. Check out the monthly plans page on our website for more info.
I thought the same. Also their reply no other upfront costs but please check out our monthly plans.
@@NorthWalesCampers That's because we do still have plans with monthly fees but our Lite plan doesn't. The monthly plans page gives you all the information of what's included in each plan. Thanks, Tom
How's it brilliant? Wasn't innovative at all, you get back to the 80's with only PIR and door contacts, just a huge marketing around it, no wonder why it went into liquidation and it's now useless, biggest scam ever...
Before ordering you should be aware that a monthly subscription of £9.99 applies if you want to protect anything bigger than a shed. Boundary will sell you the package shown which includes six sensors. If you want to use more than two you have to subscribe.
Matthew's is my favourite DIY channel for sure, but the Boundary subscription plan is no more than a con.
Thanks for the heads up regarding the subscription, shame it wasn't mentioned in the video.
I'll not be purchasing now.
Hi Gerry, our free Lite plan now allows Unlimited Sensors. There are no other costs other than the upfront system purchase. Check out the monthly plans page on our website for more info.
@@johnsteed9083 Hi John, our free Lite plan now allows Unlimited Sensors. There are no other costs other than the upfront system purchase. Check out the monthly plans page on our website for more info.
@@FlatEric971 Hi there, our free Lite plan now allows Unlimited Sensors. There are no other costs other than the upfront system purchase. Check out the monthly plans page on our website for more info.
Seen this alarm system being installed on D&J Projects, seems to be very good if you have your own home.
Same neil
just been contacted by boundary they have adjudged the pay monthly plan so you can have unlimited sensors. dont know why they did it in the first place as it put myself and many others off buying this system. well done boundary for listening
Great video, bit of humour too.
The Des O'connor reference would definitely scare off most 😂
Classic stuff! It shows my age!
Looks great, but I am surprised that the siren box doesn't have a solar cell to keep a Li-ion cell trickle charged.
Sadly the monthly plan cost kills this one. Pointless to be able to only pair 2 sensors so the paid subscription is necessary at £120/year. Close, but no cigar.
Yep. I was going to purchase the medium package but stopped short when I saw I had to commit to a monthly subscription to get full features from the mobile phone app!
Hi there, our free Lite plan now allows Unlimited Sensors. There are no other costs other than the upfront system purchase. Check out the monthly plans page on our website for more info. Thanks, Tom
@@Firetech1961 Hi Nick, our free Lite plan now allows Unlimited Sensors. There are no other costs other than the upfront system purchase. Check out the monthly plans page on our website for more info. Thanks, Tom
@@BoundaryAlarm push notifications on lite plan when?
As you know I love your channel but as someone who has worked in the professional security industry for the last 30 years and currently works for the world’s largest independent security manufacturer, I get frustrated by equipment that meets no British / EN standards and where people get either tied into expensive monthly fees or paying excessive monthly fees for apps. Police response can only be achieved if the equipment complies to EN standards and is installed by a NSI or SSAIB accredited company. Please do your homework, like everything in life you get what you pay for. Rant over.
I agree entirely. I'm a (retired) security installer. I wouldn't want a battery powered bell box. I'll be too old soon to get up the ladders. None of my kit ever had monthly charges either!
Hi Simon, Robin from Boundary here. You might not know this but our system is going through independent lab testing to achieve EN50131 certification. We expect it to be finalised by April with most tests passed at this stage. Boundary is SSIAB registered also
@@robinknox4614 So are you able to provide police response now or hoping to sometime after April?
@@kmhphotoman this service will only launch after April 👍
@@robinknox4614 Then surely this video which is clearly an advertisement rather than a revue as well as your own website misleading?
I just knew that was going to happen at the end - but it still cracked me up. Great review and I’m heading over to the Boundary site now….!
I'm so predictable!
Just bought mine using the code. Very reasonable price. Thank you very much sir.
Nice one
Welcome to Boundary :)
Looks like a fab system, however the monthly subscription fee would put me off getting one
I've just checked it out, £25 a month to alert the police, who wouldn't bother in the first place. Bargain
Hi Joe, our free Lite plan now allows Unlimited Sensors. There are no other costs other than the upfront system purchase. Check out the monthly plans page on our website for more info. Thanks, Tom
@@BoundaryAlarm Great news, and encouraging to see a company responding to customer feedback! I'd be much more inclined to purchase a system now
@@jwatkins123 Glad to hear it, Joe. We always do our best to listen to feedback.
Looks like a decent system but the monthly fee is pretty pricey.
Hi there, our free Lite plan now allows Unlimited Sensors. There are no other costs other than the upfront system purchase. Check out the monthly plans page on our website for more info.
@@doctorlove2022 Hi Sean, our free Lite plan now allows Unlimited Sensors. There are no other costs other than the upfront system purchase. Check out the monthly plans page on our website for more info.
I like your videos Stuart. You should have mentioned the subscription fee.
Hi Gordon, our free Lite plan now allows Unlimited Sensors. There are no other costs other than the upfront system purchase. Check out the monthly plans page on our website for more info. Thanks, Tom
Thanks for your post. Unfortunately my son bought a two box system from them and had nothing but trouble. They were very unhelpful throughout so I'm not surprised to hear of their demise.He's now having to make a claim with his bank as he fortunately paid by credit card.
Good speaker, didn't put a word wrong!
Always being advised to protect myself with a very easily installed system. However,I am happy with the stuff I installed myself,door alarms,sensors,automatic lights,which I have found to be the best value. An alarm would set the neighbours against me eventually,so I prefer the quiet gadgets,and securely locked doors and windows. Incidentally,I do not oil or grease the window latches because I want to hear any being forced. The door hinges squeak quite loudly too. Being alert is the best weapon against intruders,and keeping a weapon handy.
Just got the big package for £270! what a bargain. Thanks! The £9.99 a month, I get that people don't want to pay it, but might be a good idea to see if your premiums for home insurance will go lower to justify the monthly fee? I know some insurers won't acknowledge an alarm system, but worth a try!
At best they give you 10 % off and that's if its maintained by a security company.
From my experience insurance companies will only offer discounts if the alarm system is fitted by a reputable security company and is serviced yearly to ensure it's still working correctly.
Liquidation …. We are sorry to advise that Boundary Technologies Limited has ceased to trade due to financial difficulties and that Graeme Bain of Johnston Carmichael has been appointed as Provisional Liquidator of the company by Edinburgh Sheriff Court. As a result, the company is unfortunately no longer in a position to provide ongoing technical support to customers.
One thing to note is that for the Level 1 police response the external alarm must be professionally installed as noted on their site "Police-response systems, such as ours at Boundary, have an outdoor siren that must be professionally installed onto the exterior of your property. "
To stop DIY people from installing
Which is BS, yes it does need a professional installer that's either NSI or SSAIB approved, then they need to apply to the local police force for URN (average £60 pa additional paid to the police) but they're forcing the sale of an externals sounder that's not needed..
Brilliant video as always and I couldn’t quite believe the 45% discount code… I even started to sweet talk the wife into looking at it… until I saw the monthly fee. Poor show on Boundaries part I think there… fair enough having more features etc for the paid for version but limiting sensors is a bit tight. Thanks again for the video.
Hi there, our free Lite plan now allows unlimited sensors pairings so no restrictions. You can also arm/disarm via the app, partial arm via the hub, and integrate with the likes of Alexa, Google Home and IFTTT on the free plan. Hope that helps. Thanks, Tom
Great video! Impressive alarm system and a great discount. Only problem is they are all out of stock. I hope Boundary will restock soon and extend the discount.
Luckily, You didnt buy as Boundary have now gone bust
Des O'Connor album........... comedy gold. Looks a great product.
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Good stuff. Wanted to update my old system, so looking to get wire free now and this looks perfect. Thanks.
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Great video thanks Stuart. I had to install alarm one of the battery type alarm unit at my daughter’s house made by Yale. I did have a lot of problems with the batteries supplied going flat and the double sided tape not sticking very well. But some good new batteries and 3m tape solved all the problems. The unit you used, looks so much better than the Yale ones.
This companies in Liquidation!!!!!!!!!!
Loved this video! Definitely going to do this to my home!
Thanks
In light of these going bust, and the Google Nest alarm system shutting down at a similar time, I'd HIGHLY recommend getting standard alarm equipment and running your own system via Home Assistant or SmartThings or similar.
I used a Konnected board to use my existing wired door/window/motion sensors and siren in a smart alarm, then added Zigbee wireless sensors (battery life 2 years from a watch style battery) to add other rooms. All of it is controlled in Home Assistant with the "Alarmo" addon and will still work 10 years from now even if all the manufacturers go bust, as long as my Home Assistant raspberry pi stays plugged in.
Never buy hardware that relies on someone else's goodwill or server time to keep it running.
Another brilliant, informative and entertaining installation 👍🏼
You have cemented your place as my favourite DIY channel by far. 👌🏼👍🏼
Wow, thank you!
Morning Stuart, another great video and thanks for introducing a great product. Hope your staying safe in the current stormy conditions. Best wishes Michael
Hi Michael - thanks. Let me put it this way - I'm definitely working inside the workshop today!
Another great video Stuart, but l feel you should have mentioned the £9.95 monthly fee !
I was about to order one until l realised the fees.
Hi Stephen, our free Lite plan now allows Unlimited Sensors. There are no other costs other than the upfront system purchase. Check out the monthly plans page on our website for more info. Thanks, Tom
Des O'Connor albums...!!!! Great video.
As others have stated, this company have ceased trading. The liquidators are Johnston Carmichael (Edinburgh).
Some of the sensors may be compatible with other systems, so you may not have to throw the whole system in the bin.
Good alarm system but you forgot to mention having to pay a monthly fee to allow more then two sensors to be used as well as features you mentioned.
Hi Dave, our free Lite plan now allows Unlimited Sensors. There are no other costs other than the upfront system purchase. Check out the monthly plans page on our website for more info. Thanks, Tom
@@BoundaryAlarm thank you for updating me👍
I had a Verisure system put in about a year ago having never come across this Boundary package. I’m paying around £40 a month, so the Boundary at only a tenner a month seems like a bargain, although I don’t think there was any upfront cost with the Verisure. Good video and great production values as usual!
Get a professional installer to sort you out, costs alot less than these scammers are charging. Ask your insurers if it's recognised as a maintained system.
I think you ought to have stated up front that it was a subscription based model. Other than that it was an informative and interesting video, thanks for sharing.
Hi there, our free Lite plan now allows Unlimited Sensors. There are no other costs other than the upfront system purchase. Check out the monthly plans page on our website for more info. Thanks, Tom
Great video. If we can give any advice it would be don't advertise your security system by placing stickers or signs outside your house.
These systems are subject to defeat by interfering with the signals. Since this is a public forum I'm not going to be more specific. There's plenty of information for those interested.
Merry Christmas too you and your family. God bless 🙏🎄
Hey Stuart, you really should take this video down now as I am sure you know Boundary went bust earlier this year leaving us all with a useless system.
Just for the record, I moved to the Yale Smart Home Alarm system which is about the same sort of price range and so far seems to work pretty well.
Hahaha I was really hoping the ending would be exactly that! Another great vid. 👍👍
Another good video. My concern is the frequency of battery changes. As the batteries aged in my Arlo wireless camera system it seemed like I was up the ladder every few weeks to remove and recharge a battery in one of the cameras. After replacing the batteries when they wore out I ended up paying $100 more for each camera to fit a solar panel to each. Problem solved.
Similar to cameras, although perhaps less demanding on a battery, any device that is constantly triggered by movement such as infra-red sensors is likely to be hard on batteries. As we get older we need to spend less time up ladders!
It’s a valid concern. When our pro subscription launches our annual maintenance includes battery changes. We’re currently forecasting a minimum of one year from all batteries, with options like disabling the the LED on sensors to increase this. We’re also working on firmware updates to make battery life more efficient. Zwave 700 as a protocol is low energy by nature so we think that there are improvements to be made!
I was in the alarm business for a time and I have never found a standard alarm monitoring system that guarantees they will get the police out? All they can do is make police aware but if there is no confirmation that someone is there they do not have to attend. Just a footnote Boundary went bust in March!
Great bit of kit and a great how to video. Just curious about where you plugged it into. Noticed you didn’t plug it into the double socket near where you placed the hub. Is there another socket lower down? 🤷♂️😎
The most terrifying threat to a burgular ever. Des O'Connor. Eric and Ernie would be proud.
Keep up with great videos.
Up a ladder on the windiest day of the year... until today!! Storm Eunice has cometh
It was the windiest day at that point. Definitely won't see me up there today!
Another great video. I just have one gripe. I just went on the site to look at buying the medium bundle. The only way to buy without a monthly subscription (which I don't want) is to buy the lite which only has x2 sensors. Quite dissapointing.
If you have a wired system it will cost you about that for your annual maintenance contract for it although you can always decide not to have it. Also in terms of future flexibility this is so cost effective to add sensors…
@@GordieK I fitted a wireless Swann system around 10 years ago. I liked the App part of this so would have liked to swap out and install this. I just need a system I can access online like my cctv. I don't want to be forced to take a monthly subscription. I can replace batteries and maintain myself.
Hi Mark, our free Lite plan now allows Unlimited Sensors. There are no other costs other than the upfront system purchase. Check out the monthly plans page on our website for more info. Thanks, Tom
@@BoundaryAlarm this is a real game changer for you guys...good move...
@@GordieK Thanks, Gordon.
great video when me and my mrs got our first home earlier this month i went for a hybrid alarm system wired motion detectors ,wired external sounder,the the only wireless was window sesnsors as the frames are pvc
Hello Stuart, I really enjoy your channel with its clear explanations and useful tips. I'm interested in the Boundary Alarm system but I have a question. I understand that you need the internet to set up the various sensors and to get them to "talk" to your phone, but if the internet modem suffers a power failure or if the telephone line is cut will the sensors still trigger the siren if they are activated? I'm guessing that the answer is probably "yes" but you will no longer get the alert on your phone. Is that correct? Thank you
Knew u were goin to do that at end. Ur funny guy.
I realise that this excellent video is over 12 months old now, but I just took a look on their website with a view to purchasing. Looks like your discount won't work anymore as the have gone into liquidation. Any similar products you can recommend? Keep up the good work.
I would love this system BUT why didn't you mention the subscription?.? Also you can't buy a bigger package unless you pay for the subscription!
Hi Tom, our free Lite plan now allows Unlimited Sensors. There are no other costs other than the upfront system purchase. Check out the monthly plans page on our website for more info. Thanks, Tom
Really great video as always. Probably I'd enjoy you showing us how to do the dishes properly. Regarding the door sensor, the small part is basically just a magnet, so in fact you could just fit a small magnet there. And yes, it's probably hard to find one that fits nicel right there, but good to know.
You are right. i only found that out when it ended up stuck to some screws on my workbench!
Another fantastic video Stu. Editing is getting better and better pal
Thanks 👍
Was very tempted to invest in this system after watching the video, but on searching found that the company has been liquidated so assume the alarm doesn’t work anymore.
a quick google search reveals that boundary alarms company has gone into liquidation in early 2023. Mr Proper DIY, you should put a sticky comment on this video and perhaps give an update to viewers as to what the state of your installed system currently is
You also failed to mention how much it cost is there any monthly layout
First class review, love all your video's keep them coming.
Thank you very much
When fixing the door switches it's usual to fix the magnet, the small part in your case, to the door and fix the larger part, the reed switch to the frame. This will prevent the reed switch from moving and banging around when the door is being shut.
Proper job again mate. Keep up the good work mate. Do like a proper diy video from yourself,🤙🏻
That was a great review of a system that seems quite easy to install.
It was!
Great video and such an easy system to set up, also love the Morecambe and Wise reference with the Des O'Conner music ha ha ha.
Stay Safe,
Barry (Wirral)
Glad you enjoyed it!
Issues for me are:
- the web site recommends 6 sensors when I state only 3 rooms downstairs (should this be 2 sensors per room?)
- Unless you pay an additional £120 a year contract, you can only pair 2 sensors to the system?
Work it out based on how many windows/door openings there are. Easy to do. In terms of the subscription I paid more for a wired system in a previous house and then every time I wanted a change it cost me a small fortune. Compare this with Verisure and see. Also be aware the discounts available are huge at the moment with a promo code. Brilliant system in my view and the monthly fee is more than acceptable to me… installed this about 2 months ago .. great kit
@@GordieK Subscription systems to be able to use your own kit is a terrible business model for clients but a great money grab for businesses. Its all too common these days as well and as its cloud based, internet outages or a hack at boundary and you are at the mercy of whatever happens to that third party. There is a reason CCTV and Alarms have a virtual air gap in professional setups.
@@Amped-JDS yes it is cloud based but remember the outdoor siren doesn’t depend on that as the system uses zwave …. Tbh posting anything on here has its security issues as well and I doubt the data boundary have of me is any different to what many cloud based companies do .. at some point we need to lose wires … Ring uses subscription , EZVIZ uses subscription as do many many others .. it’s not a valid reason not to go with it in this day and age …
@@GordieK of course it's a valid reason, you are just drinking the koolaid and believing the subscription is needed. Just because everyone is jumping on the bandwagon doesn't make it right, it means people are just not able to think for themselves and look at the better alternatives. No subscription for pretty much the same system with Yale. It's not so much a worry about what these companies know, it's about the fact they can disable your alarm which with malicious intent is a bad thing.
@@Amped-JDS You're right. Ongoing monthly costs are awful for domestic systems. Used to be the same with monitored alarms and paying for two services a year, bought the thing 20 times over. Plenty of wireless systems out there without subscriptions and apps.
Another brilliant video and tempted but the Lite package is pretty pointless, doesn’t explain how you’re notified if the alarm goes off. So I can be enjoying a holiday with the alarm going off driving my neighbours mad and I’m none the wiser. Of course that’s why you then have to pay £120 a year for push notifications.
Hi Tony, our free Lite plan now allows Unlimited Sensors. There are no other costs other than the upfront system purchase. Check out the monthly plans page on our website for more info. Thanks, Tom
Des O'connor album must be enough surely to deter anyone!
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Cool looking system and a great video overview/installment to boot. Cheers.
Thanks
I really wanted to purchase a boundary system until I realised you had to use their own ZWave system. The property I live in is almost like a complex with out buildings that need to be protected. We have to use a mesh Wi-Fi system as regular Wi-Fi will not reach the out buildings, but mesh works brilliantly. If Boundary can’t utilise WiFi then I’d have to run multiple of their ZWaves just to protect the out buildings, which means I have to purchase two subscriptions just to get it to work. Such a shame as I was ready to pull the trigger a couple of days ago as it looked great.
Hi there, our free plan now allows unlimited sensors pairings - so you wouldn't need to purchase multiple subscriptions. We can also provide Z-wave range help extenders to cover outbuildings etc. Hope that helps.
@@BoundaryAlarm Thank you, in that case I will look into this. Thanks
@@thedigitalemotion no problem. Any problems or questions you can contact us through the Support page on our website.
Fantastic video ..moving house today...will definitely invest in one of these ....
Best of luck!
Looks interesting. Have a wired alarm system but we only have 1 PIR for the hallway. Most of the windows have contact sensors. It seems boundary tends to use PIRs as the main protection but how does that work say at night time? You probably wouldn't want your PIRs on in case you accidentally set them off going to the kitchen for a drink but then if an intruder comes in through a window with no contact sensor, you're exposed.
I get you can order more sensors but find it interesting their bundles all come with only 2 contact sensors for doors and none for windows
I'm surprised Boundary haven't answered like they answered Anthony's question. Come on Boundary.
Sorry, we were catching up! The night set built into the app will automatically disable the PIRs and leave all the contacts armed. You can wander around inside but still feel safe at night! You can also mix and match if you prefer as we support multiple part set scenarios so you could even leave a few PIRs armed if you wish.
Thanks Stuart….nice alarm system…..i also think you seriously need a new broom, the one in your workshop keeps coming off 😂😂
I know - comes off weekly!
I can feed my German Shepherd for the same monthly fee as the pro system.... And trust me he doesn't miss a trick and is more of a deterrent than a little alarm box on a wall :)
Excellent video though, and you are right about how easy it is to install. My only reservation is that it needs batteries in the alarm unit, which hopefully won't need replacing at frequent intervals as it's not much of a deterrent if the alarm is quiet or fails to sound.
Hi Malcolm, our alarm system also doesn't need taking for regular walks 😉 On the battery life, we’re currently forecasting a minimum of one year from all batteries, with options like disabling the the LED on sensors to increase this even further. We’re also working on firmware updates to make battery life more efficient. Thanks, Tom
Wasting you time with Des O'Connor best to play Val Doonican! 😆 Great channel 👍
Thanks
You could actually play anything you like with the IFTTT integration or Alexa! Personally, you can't beat a bit of heavy metal! :)
Just what do you get for the iniquitous subscription scam...!?
lol, you sound like my dad.. he always says if you aren't making a mess, then it isn't real DIY
Excellent video
It will be interesting to see how long the actual bell box batteries last as they will be exposed to the cold temperatures of our weather. Great idea having the app on your phone.
Got to say though, no drilling. How on earth will your walls ever become like pin cushions 😂
Batteries last over a year and the app will give you plenty of warning if they need changing
Really great video as always. Couple of questions, 1. if the internet is down does it still work? 2. if your away from home and the alarm is triggered, will you get alerted via your phone??. thanks again for great real world videos!😀
No. It needs the internet to communicate. Also, if you smash the code pad game over.
Hi Anthony, to answer your questions:
1. The sensors and hub can still communicate if the wi-fi goes down as they're on a secure Z-Wave network. The only functionality you'd lose is connection to the app. We do have a cellular back-up upgrade for the Hub that adds a 4G roaming network if desired so connection can be maintained at all times.
2. If away from your home, you will receive a push notification via the app, a text message and an automated voice call - so you shouldn't miss it when you alarm gets triggered.
Hope that helps.
Tom @ Boundary
@@DiHandley See my reply below David. Also, any attempt to tamper or block the system will trigger the alarm.
@@DiHandley why would you need WAN to communicate over LAN?
The devices all connect to the hub (in essence LAN)
Losing WAN (Sky, BT, Vrigin etc) wouldn't affect the door sensor communicating with the panel....
I'm in the process of installing mine. It's a great system. Very easy to setup, very well designed interface and well built. £10 a month for support and updates is a bargain. The existence of a monthly subscription is part of the reason I went for this system. I want them around as long as I have it and that is far more likely to happen if they have reliable monthly recurring revenue for a variety of reasons.
Love the vids, as for this one it assumes good wifi coverage everywhere from the router. Just a thought, would love your actions to check and overcome any dead areas you found when setting your wifi up.
Only the hub uses wifi to connect. The sensors are connected via z wave (from memory) and it’s range is much further than your home WiFi…
@@GordieK How ever its connected, just wondered if he had checked for any dead spots and how he did it.
@@tallman3 I would assume the sensor won’t pair if it’s in a dead spot so you would know as you go I think if that helps..
I love this system. Installed it a few weeks ago. Loving the partial arming capability. My only gripe is the usb plug for the hub …. I hate external trunking with a passion so at some point I will invest in swapping that big plug out to be a hidden wire into a fuse spur of some kind….
And thus you move from DIY to needing an electrician and making good in 99% of cases. Can't have it both ways.
@@Amped-JDS ha ha … it’s a minor piece of work that is a 1-off ..jeez … you’d say black was white
@@GordieK minor? Are you qualified to make that call? 99% of people aren't but we still have a huge number of have a go heroes in the country and lucky for me they keep me in work. Shame it's usually after the 🔥
@@Amped-JDS omg here we come with the ‘nobody knows what they are doing unless they are qualified ‘ bs …. Another sparky or installer trying to justify their fee? If it took a qualified installer more than 2 hours to do that then they should get another job … so yea it’s minor … get a life .. your just trolling now
@@GordieK there is a reason they have laws against people like you. Let's hope you never hurt someone and have to answer for it.
Hi, when you look at the specs for system, battery life is VERY poor by todays standards, most other wireless systems are nearer 4 to 6 years for sensors. Visonic even quote up to 8 years for siren & PIR's and the app is free as well.
Does anybody actually respond to a neighbours alarm if it goes off? Most people just curse them and complain about the noise. Burglars know this and carry on even if an alarm sounds as it will take police an age to respond if someone actually does bother to call them.
When a family member was burgled years ago, the police attended and explained the reason the house was chosen was because it was the only one in the road without a visible alarm. They stated alarms act as deterrent only and although the burglary took place at 3pm in the summer, not a single neighbour saw or heard anything.
This is why you can add keyholders to the system to include neighbours if you wish. They will then be contacted in the event of an activation.
Haven't Boundary gone into liquidation???
Are these alarms still available ? Thought they went into liquidation.
It seems that to get all of those features on the app, you need to pay a monthly subscription - is that the case?
Yes
Hi Geoff, our free Lite plan now allows Unlimited Sensors. There are no other costs other than the upfront system purchase. Check out the monthly plans page on our website for more info. Thanks, Tom
I've always favoured using Max Bygraves myself...
Great stuff as always, 👍
Another great video and a very nice, neat and simple alarm system. Any advice on where to install the siren on a bungalow? I was thinking on a chimney, so higher up, but worried it's too exposed to weather?
They suggest at a height that you cannot reach but doesn't need to be way up either. I wouldn't worry about weather - it's well protected. Remember that as it is battery operated you need to be able to get to it again to change the batteries in the future.
Batteries in the siren ??? Monthly Subscription ??? If you are any way tech savvy look into Home Assistant as a free open source framework for bringing all your smart devices together. Then look into Shelly and SONOFF for smart devices, sensors etc and do this yourself. The resulting DIY solution runs locally on your own Network, Is not dependent on or vulnerable to any third party charges, connections or even them closing down etc.
Hi Stuart. Any plans now Boundary have announced they’ve gone bust? Im gutted as I loved the system
I’m also interested as I’m in the same boat having used Stuart’s affiliate link. Never finished protecting the whole house though so I’m after something else similar
great vid as usual! is it me or is the spirit level in a strange position? you can only see it on the back of the unit? how are you supposed to see it when you are hanging it? lol edit: watch the rest of the video to see how the level is visible lol 👍
You can actually see it from both sides so it is actually a really nice and useful addition - especially when you are up a ladder!
Another useful video as always, thanks! Which electrical detector did you use? Many of the ones I have tried have been useless but yours looked quite accurate
Thanks. It is the Bosch Truvo detector
@@ProperDIY I have one and can recommend it too. Doesn’t break the bank either (as it can’t crack safes…)
Bloody hell Stuart, I've only just put up my Annke cameras because of your other videos, now I'm going to have to put an alarm up
I will keep you busy!
Looks a good system but I wouldn't want to pay a subscription. I have a yale I fitted myself with a couple of sensors and a basic keypad but does the job..... Good video...
Hi Simon, our free Lite plan now allows Unlimited Sensors. There are no other costs other than the upfront system purchase. Check out the monthly plans page on our website for more info. Thanks, Tom
Wow I like that system , I will have to look into get that for my home. It’s so easy to install and use even I could install it.
Brilliant video Stuart. As always 👍👍👍❤️
Thank you
i woudnt bother - I just bought one based on this video and wish i hadn't. Nicely packaged wow looks the part but in reality fall well short of a basic good stable alarm system. check the 1 star on trust pilot - same experience unfortunately.
Great video and great system 👍
Thanks
What metal/wiring detector is thay please?
Boundry in liquidation
Could you tell me the model of the Bosch cable finder? Thanks for the video..
Great content thanks 👍👍👍👍
Thank you
Thanks Stuart, been looking at these for ages. But was put off by the cost. 45% discount is awesome. How long will this offer last?
I think it's up to the end of March.
Thanks I think I will use it when I move house.