@Miko Chu babes are not always quiet, What do babes do? Cry and get emotional, they get offended and complain, still in sin. In 1 Peter 2:1-2 God is saying to put off sin as newborn babes. Revelation 3:15-16 says what will happen if you don't. Also how can they be unbelievers if they are believing what God can do for them? (Going back on your first comment)
I’m addicted to these videos. Frank Turek is an awesome God fearing man and I love watching these. It answers a lot of questions I have and it helps me in my walk with Christ along with the Bible and prayer. Knowing why I believe what I believe is my struggle but these help me.
@@timothywilliams4089 more especially in this particular video he is just talking gubbish. Theists just wanna believe they really don't care about the truth
Did everything came from something? From where did that starting something came from? What was before the big bang? Why should big bang occur? What is the purpose of universe? Anything that has evidence and is subject able to experimentation & verification is Science. Does big bang qualify these Scientific variables? When there is a building there must be a builder. Building cannot build themselves. Building alone is the proof of the builder. When there is a painting there must be a painter. When there is creation, there must be a CREATOR. Creation is the proof of GOD. "The heavens declare the glory of GOD and the firmament sheweth HIS handywork" (Psalm 19:1) 💐
I was asked that once. I brought up pharoah's magicians when Moses threw his staff down and it turned into a snake. The magicians threw their staffs down and they also turned into snakes. Ending with Moses's snakes devouring the other magicians. In other words other religions can counterfeit signs and miracles but they are nothing compared to our God.
@@timeshark8727 That's one way of looking at it. But when you have questions or statements made that other religions have miracles so they have to be real. Even if its false If you can provide some type of evidence people will believe. But when you explain how the evidence is counterfeit that helps to woke up those who were deceived by lies.
JAViLL exactly! Blaise Pascal once said, "People almost invariably arrive at their beliefs not on the basis of proof but on the basis of what they find attractive. People know instinctively that If Christianity is true they will lose control, and they will not be able to live anyway they wish. Therefore, they despise it and don't want it to be true, yet fear that it may be true."
@@ElGatoVato768 You know the greatest miracle was the resurrection. If some false prophets talk about the future but dies in the end. What does it matter? I don´t know if you are an atheist a muslim or a buddhist or somthing else. You are here. You want to know the truth. Perhaps you think you already found the truth. That there is no god. In Jeremiah 29:13 "it is said: You will seek me and find me when you search for me with all your heart." Perhaps you think, no I don´t want to. But you have literally nothing to lose. And I just want to know someting. Let´s assume Jesus is the son of god, would you follow him. Or would you deny him even if you would know it´s true?
@@ElGatoVato768 That´s a honest reply. :) I mean I believe if you seek the truth with your heart you will find it. And if you want to discuss with Jesus. You could actually do that. It sounds crazy but it works through prayer (talking to Jesus) and bible reading. It´s actually so simple. Instead of never trying and never really knowing if it was actually true, just try it. I mean, it´s clearly your choice if you want to or not. :)
@@LoneCrusader Christanity and Judiasm have also been perversed. And I don't follow the religion Islam or Judaism but they certainly all believe in the same God. Man just perversed the text. Only true word is through Jesus Christ.
The real miracle is just life, the fact that life exists here is so amazing yet people can't see that. If people could see this then every day would be a gift.
Its not a miracle. Its chemistry. The more you learn biology and chemistry the less it seems miraculous. But its still amazing. Not everything thats amazing needs a god. Just watch "magic for humans" on netflix :D
@@scruffmcgruffthecrimedawg5661 i dont know. Astronauts havent been to more than one moon and one other planet. Have YOU been to other planets? No? Than you dont know either. But i can tell you this: There are less than 10 planets in the only solar system we know for a fact that has a planet with life in it, so so far we have at least 10% chance for life on planets in this solar system. There are billions of billions of solar systems and way more planets than that. Even if it wasnt 10% but only 0.1% for planets with life, those are still really really good odds to have life in hundreds of thousands of other planets.
@@adarwinterdror7245 I don't think science should be used for disproving God. Its simply a way for humans to comprehend the world around them but we can't comprehend everything in this world.
@Son Of Morning Deceived / you are also a man being deceived by lying spirits ...the truth will set you free ...Ave Satana! time is limited and his destination is damnation the abyss where hell fire is awaiting for his eternal soul and others that choose to follow him and his wickedness ! One way the cross of Christ / through his blood is forgiveness of sin leading to salvation...
@@uscg1381 you could say that, but why then would we need to understand reality if we have no point of reference? Still begs the question... you wouldnt need to understand reality if there really is no God.
This trinitarian speaker made so many lies about my religion Islam in just one sentence Lol There are so many miracles stated in The Qur'an like the entire quranic surah called Al Miraaj speaking how God miraclously took his prophet up to heavens then to Al Aqsa (Jerusalem) then back home (arab peninsulah) all in 1 day (at that time such a fast travel was impossible in human mind let alone making a tour of seven heavens & going to an other country soo distant, so many arab pagans falsely accused him of being a crazy a liar), like when God sent Angels to fight with muslims while they were largely out numbred & about to get exterminated, When arab pagans asked Prophet Muhammad peace be upon Him for a visible miracle= sign=Eya so God allowed the moon to split & get back in it's initial state (british empire recorded that indian historians recorded a sighting of moon split in half during that same periode), ..the Qur'an it self every verse is called eya=sign = miracle, & infact it contain so many miracles linguistic, scientific..& the list goes on. He lied also about the debut of hadith recording.
So basically - if a Christian sees a miracle it is true- don’t question how the the “miracle” could have happened naturally; if someone from another religion has a miracle question it a little and then dismiss it
Satan can also do miracles, seen throughout the bible (2 Corinthian 11:14). I have done many supernatural miracles. Is the miracle selfless? If not, it is from satan. For example, I could go and lay hands on the sick and they would heal in Jesus's name, but could never heal myself. All glory to Jesus. Selfless miracles = Godly miracles. Selfish miracles = satanic miracles
I hope you still see this. Idk about other denominations, but the Roman Catholic Church actually tries to disprove the miracle as having naturally occurred first. Each incident officially recognized by the Church goes under scrutiny from outside non-religious institutions or universities. Sometimes psychological examinations are done. In the case of stigmati for example, or people where bloody holes appear in the hands and feed (usually someone of deep faith), the person is kept under watchful eye to make sure they’re not self-harming or keeping the holes from healing up. In Lourdes,France where Mary appeared to a 14yr old girl a number of times back in 1858, though around 7000 healed cases have been claimed from those who have made the pilgrimage to the spot and have touched the waters that sprung up from where the encounters occurred after Mary directed her to drink from the muddy waters “meant for sinners,” (that’s an event you might find intriguing), only 70 have been confirmed as true bonafide unexplainable miracles. Many of the earlier healings lack the correct documentation for scientific review which means more could, but as of now, 70 is the official number of cases scrutinized, unexplainable, and sudden cures of things incurable.
@@chiragrulze True! Satan tries to copy everything God has done. That's the devil's trick. That's how the world stands deceived and seperated from the True God our Lord Jesus Christ. Watch John Ramirez's interviews on UA-cam, he was the 'General of Satan' as he explains himself. The devil knows every word of the Bible.
This guy is quick to scrutinizes other people's beliefs like it's the most obvious thing to do. Yet accepts his own as if there's no possible way he could be wrong. "what do you do with the miracles that other faiths claim?" "I think you have to evaluate them on a case-by-case basis. And when you do they pale in comparison to Christianity" Yeah okay buddy. He totally did that to Christianity to the point were he can confidential say that on stage, classic apologetics. A lot of other religions are not well known enough to be able to just lump them in that pile and stamp them as not having miracles. Most would just fad from memory when only a couple people know about it. To those 15 thousand people that liked, this my heart goes out to you, you poor poor misguided people
Right??? So many miracles in other faiths with 1st hand accounts which is more evidence than Christianity. Some being performed today or very recently compared to Christianity and he just ignores them all. Christians are the biggest barrier to Christ unfortunately
An excellent point which I wish Frank would have brought up (and I know he already knows this) and one that I think answers the doubts from the skeptic even better is that we can sidestep the entire question of "what about the miracles of other religions?" by simply pointing out the exclusivity inherent in the Christian religion. Jesus Christ claims to be the ONLY WAY TO GOD and, in fact, ONE WITH that same God, not to mention that he claims to alone be "the truth and the life" (John 14:6) So he claims to be God himself and the ONLY God there is. So right there, even if we have miraculous supernatural things truly occurring in other religions, it stands to reason, that if Christ's claims are true (proven thru various means such as the resurrection, etc), then that automatically excludes ALL OTHER religions from offering anyone any hope of some sort of pleasant afterlife, meeting God, going to heaven, being true themselves in offering a different God, etc So it does not matter whether the skeptic of Christianity can prove miraculous things occurring in other religions, so long as the Christian claims concerning Christ remains true and haven't been aptly defeated by the skeptic, then it follows that all other religions are false except for Christianity. As a side note, from a Christian perspective, there could indeed seem to be miracles occurring in other religions with no natural explanation. This could simply be the work of demonic forces as we know from scripture that they do such fake miracles to deceive others. So we needn't automatically assume we have to DISprove miracles of other religions, because, given my above argument, Christianity would remain the only true religion despite the occurrence of miracles in other religions. This is why I believe the above argument is a stronger one than what Frank offered (certainly no discredit meant to him) because Frank's answer could be problematic if one can prove a miracle(s) as happening in another religion, whereas the above argument is immune to any such attack no matter whether a miracle occurred in another religion or not.
Wow miracles happen in your religion are miracles but when it happens in other religions then it's a demonic power. Ehmm you can put any religion there, same excuse. This type of mentality is the reason why people are running away from religions.
I also had a friend who was Christian but then became Buddhist. He was doing things that he knew he aught not do, and Buddhism was a way to put away a guilty conscience.
Other religions: "Miracle X happened". Frank Turek: "Do you have any evidence that happened?" Do you, Frank? Do you? The inability of some religious fanatics to reflect on their ideas and actions, is incredible.
Why do religious people say this? People that don’t believe in a God is because lack of evidence or proof. That it. If someone could produce evidence for a specific God their would be only one God and a mass exodus towards that God. But there isn’t evidence, so all religions are faith based... ironic don’t you think.
When he accuses people who believe in different faiths of avoiding accountability, he's actually projecting his own shadow onto them. Because Christianity is all about dodging accountability; Jesus died for your sins, and you can avoid accountability and consequence if you believe in Him obey the Bible's commandments. But if you sin afterwards, don't worry, he'll forgive you of those sins, too. Just be sure that you feel really bad about yourself, and perceive yourself as a worthless dog that needs soul saving.
@@blackinpublic4193 You rebuke me? So, which part about what I wrote is not true? "For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." "If you confess with your mouth 'Jesus is Lord' and believe God raised him from the dead, you will be saved." "But God loved us in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." "just as through one man's sin all die, so also through one man's obedience all are made righteous." "For by grace you are saved through faith, and not of works, lest any man should boast." Not exactly sure what you're rebuking. Christianity is clearly a "get out of jail free" card.
Interesting how Christians will use evidence and skepticism to question other religions and their veracity but won't use it on their own. Also, since when is the "impressiveness" of a supposed supernatural event a measuring stick to tell if something was supernatural or not. Also, and lastly, nice ad hominem attack on the lady's friend at the end who became a Buddhist.
Christianity has been scrutinized and challenged since its inception and continues to this day It has withstood and overcome them all Atheists have run out of arguments to challenge Christianity.
I am fairly impressed by some Buddhist claims, at least. For Christian ones, I try to bear some examples in mind - as well as the fact multiple denominations claim competing ones.
In exodus, didnt Pharaoh's magiciens executed miracles such as turning wooden sticks into snakes ? So miracles in other religions are possible if you believe the bible
I love that last little bit about the church being the church. That’s something I’ve been talking about for a couple of years now, and finally starting to understand what true Christianity looks like thanks to that.
What evidence does he have that Christian miracles are more relevant than any other belief systems relationship to miracles. This guy has a really simplistic view of life
Frank, you have an incredible knowledge of physics, science and Christianity. But I think maybe if you studied up on other religious texts, you're debates could be so much more effective. God bless you man, you're doing good work.
now my theory is frank is an atheist but his public persona says we got here by magic....thats in no way backed up by science..we have a pretty good idea how we got here and its not magic
"What About the Miracles of Other Religions?" Since Christianity hasn't proved any of it's miracles actually happened, Christianity is in the same boat as all other religions... none of them have proved any of their miracles have happened.
Well the fact that other non-biblical texts speak of it, is proof enough. The fact that for some reason these desert dwellers were able to change the entire political and religous authority of Europe and Africa is proof of something.
We have miracles happening today and do you know why secular sources don't record Jesus miracles? Because if they did record Jesus miracles, they would be affirming who he claimed to be, and also the Babylonian talmud record that he was being accused of sorcery, so to be acused of that means that he must have been doing something supernatural. And this also agrees with the Bible because in Mark is recorded that the Jews were telling people that Jesus did miracles by the power of Satan.
The only miracles that happened was when Jesus Christ came. There is prove because that is historical text- The Bible, the Quran, and the Torah all talk about Jesus. Even the Quran doesn't like Jesus, but they still talked abt him & that is true evidence that he exists and that he did these 'miracles'.
Contending for validity of a religion based on whether or not there is supernatural power being displayed is irrelevant. The reason why I say that is because satan can perform miracles as stated by God in the biblical account. Satan can also transform himself into other beings and therefore has the capacity to decieve with both power of the miraculous and visual stimulation. I'm not saying any thing negative about Frank because I love him and think he is brilliant in apologetics. However his claim that other religions do not have valid miracles is false. Which is not to say they are equivalent to Christianity because they are not. I said all of that because our faith in Christ should not be grounded in the miracles He did (sounds sketchy) but our faith should be grounded in trust in His WORDS and His authority, without evidence. Why do I make that claim? I make that claim because Jesus Himself said many things relating to it but my two favorite are these: 1.) Blessed are those who believe in Me even thought they have never SEEN me. (That is a reference to satan's manifestations of power and miracles) 2.) My Sheep hear MY VOICE and will not follow another.(His VOICE and words hold more weight than seeing Him and His miracles.) Now I also think it would help if I clarify that I am a bible believing Christian and I believe in and walk in the power of the Holy Spirit. (Not like average western charismatics) I've seen hundreds of healings while praying with people in grocery stores, bus stops, places of employment and etc, and I believe those amazing miracles have added to my faith, but they are not what my faith is grounded on. I hope I have given a good explanation. Like Frank always shares that God said with His own words that He did the greatest miracle of all, God created the heavens and the earth. Even though I can't see God physically, I believe His words which lead me to see Him spiritually everyday. ❤ Much love 😊
Well the miracles Jesus did served a purpose. If it was done just for the heck of it, it was worthless and He rebuked it....for example in Quran their is a story of Mohammed casuing some kind of cr scent moon or something to do with the moon when asked to preform a miracle. What did that serve? Nothing. It did Nothing for any one. Much different than Jesus stance.
what about Jesus's "miracle" of cursing a fig tree(because it was not bearing fruit, because it was out of season(you'd think Jesus would kbow that))? who did that help? what purpose did that serve?
@@Mockturtlesoup1 That act symbolises the spiritual deadness of Israel. Just prior he tore the market on the inner court apart. This was a Two day event apparently. One the day it was cursed and two the day it withered. Which is significant as the type of tree was a symbol for Israel.
@@Mockturtlesoup1 also, from what i understand, it might not have been fig season, but the tree was supposed to have the buds/start of figs that are also edible. It was literally bearing no fruit, and therefore was a worthless fig tree, which he used as a metaphor in his teaching.
It's incredibly smug and presumptuous to question the motives of someone you don't know- or even someone you do- because they don't believe the same things you do. Everyone has the right to be presumptuous, but don't assume others won't take notice or that it won't affect what they think of you and your own motives.
The Christian argument is based on developing straw men: cherry picking points of attack, defaming characters and making arbitrary inferences and claims they cannot prove.
@@ghostwryteranonymous4910 no. It’s about surfing the truth and nothing else, knowing that people will be offended. Everyone wants to live in world where they won’t be held accountable for their sins. God WILL punish them if they don’t repent!
As a polytheist, I would like to say that it is possible for multiple different religions to have their own miracles; one of the main flaws of monotheism is that it applies special pleading when it comes to miracles, as they see miracles that occur in their religion as confirming it, but have to come up with all kinds of excuses to explain away the miracles of other religions. Lots of religions of have stories of miracles; Shamanistic religions attribute healing powers to shamans via the spirits, the hurricanes that destroyed the Mongol armies who invaded Japan were attributed as miracles from the kami, the Roman statesman Marcus Terentius Varro theorized that diseases were caused by tiny organisms ala bacteria and viruses, despite the fact that the technology to see and confirm these things hadn't been invented yet, which one could interpret as a miracle from one or more of the Roman gods.
Do some of you’re own research, the evidence for the resurrection of Jesus is pretty immense. All those people who truly believed they saw him after death after some originally doubted and people who hated Christians and killed them with passion changes after claiming that Jesus spoke to him. There are so many amazing things that have only one explanation that even none believers agree upon.
@@that1guy591 "Do some of you’re own research, the evidence for the resurrection of Jesus is pretty immense. All those people who truly believed they saw him after death after some originally doubted and people who hated Christians and killed them with passion changes after claiming that Jesus spoke to him. There are so many amazing things that have only one explanation that even none believers agree upon." Yet it is absent from history books that report known facts....
170221dn As you have proven people naturally want to deny God and have removed church from state, the Bible literally consist of ancient historical documents detailing experiences and journeys and Gods word. Just because you don’t want to believe what is written doesn’t mean it isn’t true😄 Try studying the documents and history yourself and don’t take schools word as law, they are always finding new things and re-writing history👌
I've gone through the historical documents of NT scholars. The new testaments were originally written in Greek by highly educated Christian's and not eye witnesses. Explain to me how the first forged gospel account of Mark didn't know that Mary was a virgin but the account of Matthew suddenly explains it later. Also there's a vast difference in the Character of Jesus before the crucifixion in Mark's account and The Gospel According to Luke. One speaks of a forsaken character and the other speaks of a character totally aware that God is on his side. The conventional method would be to jam the stories but that's not how the stories are supposed to be read since they were not written at the same but decades later. The so called evidence of the resurrection is only mentioned in the forged gospels which aren't reliable sources and nothing outside the Bible according to the new testament. scholars
If you look into the gods and miracles of other religions...I mean REALLY look into them, you will see that their gods and their miracles were of demons. Their miracles would require sacrifices of virgins, babies, people cutting themselves, doing drugs, having sex, being intoxicated for or during their "religious" ceremonies. If you have depictions of their gods, eg: Egyptian, Sumerian, Hindu, etc, they resembled fallen angelic beings taking shape in the form of things or animals that the people worshipped. Early man had high intelligence in things lost to us but we also have intelligence not privily to them. So if an Egyptian feared the crocodile or alligator as some dirty (for whatever reason) the fallen angel would come as a human with a crocodile head. The christian God doesn't require such sacrifices. Only the sacrifice of one's will of self destruction unto the will of life through Christ. That's deity not dirty...the spell check switched it on me.
2:58 totally misunderstood and wrong definition of Karma.Sadhguru released a whole book on Karma recently.I think Mr Frank needs one.Based his definition of Karma,I'm sorry to say...he is clueless.
If my people who are called by My Name, will humble themselves, praying, seeking My Face to turn from their wicked ways. Then I will hear from Heaven and heal their land.
objective morality is simply impossible to argue without there being a God. If there is no God then there has to be moral relativity. But we do have strong moral absolutes- its a contradiction.
These answers are ridiculous. He’s seriously denying that there is any evidence for miracles in other religions that meet the same standard that he accepts for Christian miracles? Frank - you need to be more honest about your standards of evidence for your own religion, you seem to be requiring a higher standard of evidence for others than you apply to your own beliefs.
3:52 - Whoa!!! She left Christianity for Buddhism because she wanted to continue sinning according to the Bible? What kind of Straw Man fallacy crap is that? We don't know the supposed "sin" or what the person's reason was for their disbelief in Christianity but you make the assumption she left because she wants to sin???? That's a logic jump if ever spoken! And do you know what the Buddhist texts even say? For having the word "examined" in your name, you sure make some crazy fallacious jumps there.
2:26. That's not the Miracle of Mormonism, far from it. Joseph Smith Claimed to have seen God and Christ together who told him to not join any church at the time.
Even though the bible says that if someone actually see's God that they "would surely die" and I feel like Joseph Smith was trying to elevate himself to be at the same level and importance as Moses who did spend time with God on the mountain of Zion where God revealed a small piece of himself to Moses and when Moses would come off the mountain witnesses said he would be glowing a bright white where Gods glory was radiating off of moses from just being in Gods presence and God wasn't even fully revealed only what Moses could comprehend
I'm a Christian, but I think you're setting people up to be deceived if you say that other religions aren't capable of miracles. What about when Pharaoh's magicians duplicated Moses' miracles in Exodus 7:22 through the use of secret arts? What about in Revelation 13:13 where it says that the 2nd Beast performed great signs and was able to make fire come from heaven? "Because of the signs it was given to perform on behalf of the first beast, it deceived those who dwell on the earth." The difference is that unlike the Holy Spirit, their miracles are limited and finite, but they're still within the realm of what people would consider "supernatural", which is what gives them the ability to deceive people who think that only Christ is capable of miracles.
That's a really good question and one that I've thought about in depth; until I came to the realisation that the Pharaohs were in fact pagans. They were idol worshipers (think Isis, Horus etc..). Their entire belief system was based on an idol religion; which is in turn based fundamentally on Satanism. So it is not implausible to conclude that some of the "miracles" they performed was the direct result of black magic inspired by Satan himself. Don't forget that Satan is the master deceiver.
@@MrAndyGA are they satanists by your definition or theirs? Does your label apply to them or do they decide who they are? Does magic and witchcraft exist with real effects that can measured physically?
Hi frank. I stumble onto you today and after watching a few videos I subscribe God bless you brother may the Lord strengthen your wisdom and may you continue to help interpret Christianity to those who have question "fight the good fight"
@@flanderg123 you said even satan believes which makes me think that you don't understand that Christ died for the human race alone, not the fallen angels
@@flanderg123 and you say sell everything you have a follow Jesus, that's discipleship, theres many disciples but many of them are not even saved, are you saved?
Frank has been answering the same questions for years. He’s like a refrigerator salesman selling the same fridge for 20 years. Yeah, he knows his product.
maroom1 this ignorant reply shows you have no idea what you're talking about. Do yourself a favor and research how SCIENTISTS discovered how the universe is fine tuned before you reply again.
The fact that you think that athiest (or scientist) believe that origin of universe (big bang) is an explosion out of noting only show how ignorant you are. You have no idea what you are talking about. Show me a well known athiest who claims that universe came from explosion out of noting ?! I Big bang is about expansion of the universe from singularity. The singularity itself has all stuff that make up the universe but it was it more dense state. Nobody ever said explosion out of noting, nobody have ever seen anything that come out of noting. And fine tuned argument has been already refuted many times. Do research
maroom1 yeah I just did and really, atheists believe it's false yet theists don't. Kinda like evolution, atheists and theists in general will never agree on it. Might as well stop now before we go back and forth insulting each other. Funny though, I could have sworn that Richard Dawkins said the universe seems finely tuned.
majinhiei7 Your mistake is thinking "finely tuned" means there is some great piano repair man in the sky. The only logical solution is that there are many universes, most of which are not capable of supporting life. The vacuum of space creates something out of nothing all the time. It's probably too much for a religious person to comprehend but pairs of particles are being created and then annihilated (Heisenberg's uncertainty principle). Virtual photons are being created out of nothing and is scientifically proven by the Casimir effect. Choose science, it is a lot more wondrous than just saying "God did it".
I was fairly impressed with Frank until I watched him with Christopher Hitchens. I was disappointed to watch him swallowed up by anger and frustration and argue with such emotion. I’m not anything close to an Atheist, on the contrary I strive to live true Christianity. A lot of what this guy says is solid, but beware of what he discounts. Beware of his “logical proofs” because they tend to be utterly besides the point. Faith is the principle from which you find the Power of God. It can be tested with reason and stand up to intellectual scrutiny. About those “Gold Plates” and Mormonism. I’d recommend people look into that a much closer. Frank tries to trivialize them in a fashion similar to someone claiming “I can make bread and catch fish too!” Such an argument when understood in context is absurd. The object is not the miracle. Taking miracles on a case by case basis requires understanding the case. Read the testimonies of the witnesses to the plates. Pray and ask God and receive revelation for yourself. Contrary to what this man says, the canon is not closed. If so there is a great flaw in the scriptures because they say no such thing. YOU can receive revelation and God calls prophets today.
Well said 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 👉🏼We will make disciples and not just believers ❤ 👉🏼 preaching not be just motivational speeches not about me and I and what Jesus can do for me.- this is Not Christianity ❤
Your beginning comments on the religion of sex is something I've been thinking on for some time. What we are seeing here in my opinion is the newest incarnation of the goddess of sex. In the past she went by Inanna, then Ishtar, Astarte, Aphrodite, Venus, and now she is an invisible obsession in our culture. It's just an old idol with a new paint job.
I'm a Christian, and I generally like Frank Turek, but he's way off the rails on karma. Believing in karma doesn't require that you don't believe in God. Sow and reap.
My Word Religions teacher told the class that the story of Jesus and Peter walking on water was added later to make Christianity more appealing to potential converts of other religions. He said that the story was taken from a story written a long time before Jesus. A monk that would eventually be identified as one of Buddha’s past life’s? What can I say to this?
1:50 - Islam, difference between Hadith and Quran 2:12 - Mormonism 2:31 and 3:40 - Buddha and the light. Ask, “What do you mean by that? How did you come to that conclusion?”
Maybe only one religion has sufficient cumulative evidence. NO IRONY AT ALL. Intelligent people investigate each religion and will immediately recognize that one makes more sense than the others. They will eventually find that Jesus Christ did not come to establish a religion but rather a RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM. Now, if only people would search honestly? At the end, Atheism offers nothing. No hope, no justice, just a false humility that they going to always search and research until they find. Interesting, they are always researching matter that already existed? They study stuff that cannot create itself. Unless there is a creator that is neither created but eternally existed? OK .. I GUESS I'M THE FOOL HERE. ATHEISM????? Keep on searching people , you are the "honest" ones ?
no. Christians, just like members of every other religion, do not search/research honestly for which religion is true. they simply accept the religion they were raised to believe in, and then go out and(with strong subjectivity and confirmation bias) seek evidence to support what they already believe, and evidence to reject what they don't believe. this is why 99.9% of people on earth believe in the god/religion of their parents and/or society they were raised in.
Lol not really. The >implication< was that a Christian became a Buddhist after learning it was more true than christianity. Frank pointed back that the reason was likely because they didnt come to know something they previously didnt. Its just that buddhism fits their agenda more where they can live how they want and justt try to be good to people.
This type of arrogance and ignorance is one of the many reasons why i left christianity. The claims of high spiritual morality among Christians, but nothing to back up the claims, in fact, the opposite normally happens, with passing the buck. Its really hard to take these supposed pastors and leaders seriously. I left christianity for buddhism, partially because of all this immorality and unspiritual attitudes masquerading as their opposite.
Sorry, but... THAT is a lame answer to the question asked. "You have to evaluate them on a case by case basis and when you do that they pale in comparison.....". Do you KNOW what miracles are claimed by other religions to even evaluate? They're a lot of the same types of miracles: Levitation, healing, raising from dead, etc. In fact, unlike the stories passed down via hearsay there's video evidence of miracles today where you can see someone floating or people being healed. Now, a person can skeptically say those are faked, but in terms of actual evidence, it certainly doesn't "pale in comparison".
This trinitarian speaker made so many lies about my religion Islam in just one sentence Lol There are so many miracles stated in The Qur'an like the entire quranic surah called "Al Israa" speaking how God miraclously took his prophet up to heavens then to Al Aqsa (Jerusalem) then back home (arab peninsulah) all in 1 day (at that time such a fast travel was impossible in human mind let alone making a tour of seven heavens & going to an other country soo distant, so many arab pagans falsely accused him of being a crazy a liar), like when God sent Angels to fight with muslims while they were largely out numbred & about to get exterminated, When arab pagans asked Prophet Muhammad peace be upon Him for a visible miracle= sign=Eya so God allowed the moon to split & get back in it's initial state (british empire recorded that indian historians recorded a sighting of moon split in half during that same periode), ..the Qur'an it self every verse is called eya=sign = miracle, & infact it contain so many miracles linguistic, scientific..& the list goes on. He lied also about the debut of hadith recording. Now u know which "religion" he is speaking about & is living rent free inside his mind
@@mbarnabeus Shut up.. You know that your religion is wrong, thtas why ypur copy and pasting everywhere. Your going. To hell if you do not worship Jesus.
@@astroyt. lol so if your pastor is caught lying u just say amen & insult the one exposing him with clear cut evidences?! No u shut up your religion is fake & always been based in this type of lies seen here with this guy! It has nothing to do with the real belief of Jesus Christ peace be upon Him; u believe in the gospels of John luke mathew..persons u don't even know what their family names are lol & with zero chain of narration in other words it doesn't even reach the degree of authenticity of a rejected "weak" degree hadith. Who is going to hell? The one who worship other than God The Creator, or the one that believes that God The Immortal (even your o.t. say that) got stripped naked killed by a satanic roman soldier & thus become in the words of paul "a cursed God" in his chapter galatians, then u need to glorify the alleged diocide weapon = cross or else go to hell? The list of blasphemies in your falsified belief go on & on. Not here to waste time debating dumb brainwashed; end of discussion.
@@LANDRYPHYNO hhh did u even read my comment u brainwashed we r in 2021 read my comment & the entire surah named after one of the miracles done by God on his servant & prophet Muhammad peace be upon Him, use google to verify how can u be so blind while u have internet?!
3:00 Quick correction that's actually Dharma. And the caste system of the ancient Hindu belief believing in what you do in one life affects you and what will become the next. It's all still karma, but there's more intricacy in it than just that. I am a Christian scriptural apologist who has been studying theologies faith and scripture for over 21 years and took a short sabbatical to study Buddhism and at its roots Hinduism for an uncle of mine, struggling in his marrage to a proclaiming Buddhist woman wanting to raise her children in the same lifestyle.
Not quite sure I understand the logic of that statement. In concept. In theory reincarnation is a moment in time, generally scrubbed from one's memory, mostly. And then not experienced again until your next death. Hell is a place of eternal final placement ,void of all things God. A place of absolutely no life, no "light" and no love. And life on earth is nothing in comparison to the concept of the agony of existence without life. People from.different times of our history, or people today of different cultures and exsistances only wish they could have been so lucky. Mental illness and the pain of reincarnation. Really? 1 in 4 people suffer from some sort of mental illness. And do you know what most all of them have in common. They believe their alone. Mental illness isn't all that uncommon anymore. Infant it's so common, I'm not convinced that it's just not another label or a typing built to suppress the mind that much more. When did we just stop calling it depression? And when was depression a new thing? Walk the streets of any city and look for the lost souls. Who are people in so much pain everyday at the thought of living life, they can't wait until their next hi so they can forget the world that much more once again. No I'm sorry. But I don't think we have a Mental illness problem, I don't even think we have a depression problem. I just think, that we live in a world where mankind has gotten too good ... and too comfortable with not growing up and feeling sorry for themselves is just the norm. It's our way of life. It's like using ur zodiac to instantly try to figure people out instead of getting to know them in the first place. It's excuses and it always has been. Everyone experiences pain and at one time or another everyone experiences depression. The difference is what you do with it. Do we use it as an excuse? Or move on and get on with our lives?..
Frank I think the guy meant wonders, like extraordinary things. For instance someone getting healed or turning into a dog or stone using another deity’s powers other than our living God. Pharaohs sorcerers were able to turn their staff into snakes yet they were not using Gods power. Best answer would be just because they are doing miracles doesn’t mean they are from God. And you can use Mathew 24:24 in support “For false messiahs and false prophets will rise up and perform great signs and wonders so as to deceive, if possible, even God’s chosen ones. 25 See, I have warned you about this ahead of time.”
I'm impressed how incorrect his understandings on all the major religions, including his own, are. "Hinduism" is a slang for Sanatan Dharma (Eternal Duty) and Buddhism is a branch of it where God came down as the Buddha to help atheists go on a better path, and to protect animals from cruelty and uneeded killing (which are sins according to all the major religions) by not talking about God (if he did...well look at what happen to Jesus). The Bible agrees with "Hindu" (Vedic) teachings about God AND karma AND being saved from sin in order to reach God's eternal kingdom (not all "Hindus" and certainly not all Buddhists are ready for that exact destination, though but Buddhists accept karma). Krishna's Vedas are probably where Jesus learned how to do miracles when he was age12-30 (Christians can't deny this because they deleted that part of his life). Most people don’t have a full/accurate understanding of any religion. Examples: Jesus was originally called Jesus OF the Christ. Christ is Christos in Greek/Latin, & Christos is another name for Krishna. Krishna says he’s the father of all creatures, & Christ says the father is “greater than I.” Vedas are the 1st to teach how God, A.k.a Krishna A.k.a Vishnu, created the Great Flood to destroy sin. He also did miracles & offers to save followers from sin. Jesus’ miracles remind me of things done using Vedic-science (his life from ages 12-29 was deleted…possibly due to learning Vedic-science according to many sources & some evidence). Vedas were written over 5,000 years ago but known eternally before that. All major religions/sciences stemmed from Vedas. Buddha, Christ were 1st mentioned there, as was all math, oldest histories, other planets, Relativity, etc. It also gave the socio-economic system that dominated/thrived all over (the spiritually centered, merit based Varna system) BEFORE it was corrupted into a birth-based caste system. ALL life was respected with compassion (killing animals was allowed in rare, unavoidable situations, especially with minimal suffering to the animal...all of which is what the Bible actually teaches). Vedic teachings share the same core teachings as the Bible (including having 1 supreme personal God) but because Vedas are so detailed & allow variations for people who are less good/truthful, it ALSO mentions God with his impersonal energy aspect (Brahman) and many “Gods” (AKA angels) and people misunderstand. Vedic shape/age of Earth is confirmed by modern science, but Vedas have their own more detailed/advanced/accurate model of creation/evolution (involving spiritual evolution of mind). We WERE all perfect because we all came from the PERFECT person (God) but we abused our free will with God and were sent to this struggle on Earth and God sent Jesus because he was the only way for the very sinful people to whom his message was meant for, not all people of all times. Hate the sin, love the sinner. I may not see your reply here but if you need details/sources, click the sub/bell icons for upcoming epic vids via channel “Playitalready” & watch its main vid/description. I eventually see most comments on that vid. If you don’t wanna pay for the book in the link, ask in your comment there for the free PDF.
@@Joshtheigbo Questioner: What do you do with the miracles that other faiths claim? Answer (paraphrasing): We need to evaluate miracles on a case by case basis. What are the supposed miracles of Mormonism? Golden plates. I can do that in my garage. How is that a miracle? Another example, supposedly there was a miracle when the Buddha died, what evidence is there for that? My issue: Supposedly there was a miracle when Jesus rose from the dead. You can ask the same question, what evidence is there for that? The standards of evidence put forth in both situations (Buddha and Jesus) is (I argue) on par, and yet he seems to think the evidence of Jesus’ resurrection is of more substance than Buddha’s death miracle without demonstrating why. The evidence he puts forth for the veracity of Christian miracles is that no other religion has eyewitness accounts. This is patently false. Lots of religions claim to have eyewitness accounts of miracles. A google search will show that. Furthermore, he’s willing to come up with hypothetical situations demonstrating how easily golden plates could be procured since he could make them in his garage. Why doesn’t he do the same with his own religion? Couldn’t he come up with stone tablets with the ten commandments on them in his garage as well? He’s not applying the same level of scrutiny to his own religion as he’s doing to others and so I cringe at the obvious bias.
@@colmwhateveryoulike3240 Ya, that's a good question. I think a lot of religious discussion would be better if people all had a common understanding of what constitutes good evidence. I guess I'll start with Carl Sagan, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." When your friend, whom you trust and has told you the truth in the past, tells you something trivial such as, "I found $5 on the ground yesterday," you would likely be inclined to accept what he said as truth. No further inquiry would be needed, I think we can both agree that you would be justified in believing him at face value. Regardless of whether he actually did find a $5 bill, you have good reason or sufficient evidence to accept his claim as truth. In this context, the anecdotal evidence is strong enough to carry such an innocuous claim. What if your friend said, "I won the lottery yesterday," would you be justified in taking what he said at face value in this case? Initially, maybe yes, but you might be more inclined to raise a skeptical eyebrow. You might ask him to show you the ticket, or his bank balance. But, maybe your friend simply tells you to trust him and thats the end of the conversation. Whether or not he actually won the lottery, I think we can both agree that you would not be justified to accept his claim based on the anecdotal evidence in this case. We would say that his anecdotal evidence is not strong enough to carry the heavy claim that he won the lottery and more evidence would be required to justify a belief. So, when religions make extraordinary claims like, "God exists," or "Jesus died and was resurrected," or "when we die we're reincarnated" we would be hard pressed to accept these extraordinary claims at face value. We might say that the anecdotal evidence supporting them is not strong enough to justify a belief in them. And I argue that for most, if not all, the primary evidence for their core claims comes down to anecdotal evidence. You might be tempted to say, "but there is hard evidence available. It's not just anecdotal when it comes to these claims." But then you have to ask questions like why does science, the most rigorous method we have for deciding whether or not we should accept evidence for a claim, not take this evidence seriously? And generally you'll find that the answer to that is that the evidence put forth to support religious claims, simply doesn't hold up against honest scientific inquiry and scrutiny. And that's why I argue that evidence put forth to support supernatural claims regarding Buddha or Jesus is on par; the general scientific consensus is that the evidence put forth simply doesn't carry the weight of such heavy claims.
@@Anonymous-de8uw Ok so essentially you're saying that it doesn't matter that there is more evidence to corroborate Jesus' life, death and resurrection than to corroborate Buddha's death because you weren't there and so, no evidence can convince you since it would have to be anecdotal? Or is it just that you discount miracles as being unprovable? If the latter, that's why I deconverted when I went to university. But I was an atheist scientist (biology btw, with focus on ecology - hence the need to immerse myself in the natural world to seek meaning rather than the society that was so evidently out of balance with reality) and I witnessed years of miraculous signs while seeking truth before I had to admit that truth itself was communicating back to me so I have to agree that until you see a supernatural series of events and verify them, it's hard to believe. That said, it actually makes for a very satisfying context for spacetime nature rather than being at odds with science. Philosophy can only demonstrate plausibility and give someone permission to be intellectually open enough to entertain and test for supernature. Which obviously I recommend. If the former, one of the first things I did upon witnessing what I did was review all the skeptical arguments I was so familiar with and I did find that one thing skeptics dismissed unfairly was the historical evidence corroborating the Biblical narrative, and especially Jesus. It turns out that there is more evidence than a historian would expect and it is incredibly difficult to find a good explanation for much of it if Jesus didn't really fulfil the claims. There are many named witnesses to Jesus after his death, including a good number who professional historians widely agree died because they bore witness about a man who Jewish leaders referred to as a magician when dismissing his claims to be their Messiah, and even hostile Roman witnesses to his death who say it coincided with an inexplicable darkness that wasn't an eclipse. To name a few. So I understand where you're coming from regarding miracles but the actual amount of evidence for Buddha's light thing certainly isn't on par so that's why I wondered. Having said that, I have personally seen stranger things and maybe Buddha did emit light lol.
Turek speaks of evidence.What evidence does he provide to validate the claims of Christ? Ans....only the writings of Bronze Aged authors ( authors unknown)...nothing tangible, only “ changes of heart,
Miracles followed Jesus. They were the glory of His presence, and proof of His sinless deity. He had no need to conjure up followers, His mission was to satisfy the perfect will of His Father in order to save mankind.
Whenever Dr. Turek brings up the believer and disciple comparison I understand the wisdom. I am a believer I always have been. But I always struggled to be a disciple. A believer knows but a disciple follows. I am ashamed of myself...
I think that's something not just a few Christians struggle with, myself included of course. Now, 2 years later since you wrote this comment, how are you doing? Has God done something in your life, because I believe that when there is a big enough part of us that wants to follow God, He will make it happen for us. (Hebrews 13:20-21)
If a miracle supposes the happening of something supernatural bringing good consequences, you have to agree there is a divine agent who orchestrates it, and that it has a sentient moral goodness behind the miraculous action, if you can't agree with that then it's not a credible miracle.
Exactly this is a very manipulative speaker. He can twist easily his words and not hold himself accountable.for the lack of facts. This is toxic as he demonized something similar to what he believes.
@@romellyarde907 again, it begs the question to what you define as a miracle. If Buddhism doesn't require a belief in God or any god, they can't call the enlightenment a miracle... to think you can find the ultimate meaning of life within your own self, is lunacy...not a miracle
@@renchyxii2925 the things that could separate when one calls something a miracle vs another event can be many times explained. Miracle seekers should investigate the situation more and may unlock the technique to perform such a task and share it with he world. I am sure paramedics brought more people back to life than these biblical saints, making it look normal in many cases.
@@josue_1887 Look up the shroud of turin on google. This was the barial cloth of Jesus soaked with his blood that managed to last 2000 years. Scientists even carbon dated it. Look up Eucharistic miracles. These occurrences are real and I'll definitely keep you in my prayers
Many so-called Christians will do miracles in Jesus' name but Jesus will attribute these to Satan and will reject those doing these miracles. It just shows that Satan can do miracles too.
Brother! I admire your biblical and common intelligence. Your middle name must be Solomon because the wisdom is obvious. Thank you for your witness and skill and patience to ask and answer hard questions with the effective and productive knowledge of our Lord, Jesus Christ. Man. That's good stuff! #blessings
Candyss Woodberry infact if you’re so proud of god why don’t you throw out all of your cosmetics and go out everyday as you naturally look. The flawless complexion is natural. It’s artificial.
Jennifer Jackson ??? Uhm, in your profile pic, it sure does look as if u have on some pretty heavy eye make up. So why come at this lady that way?? Actually why come at her this way period.
Jennifer Jackson But she didnt mention anything about being “proud how God made her.” She thanked the speaker and commented on his wisdom. Whats your real problem? Whats wrong?
Fallon Ocean Frank turek has absolutely no intelligence or wisdom whatsoever. So yes she is saying she proud of the man made sexist abrahamic God because she believes in him.
RandomUser123 clearly those Christians you heard THAT from didn’t do research or even ask questions and look for answers.God did say that we need a way to defend.
@FrostyJack21 YT Evidence for closest to God is The Shroud of Turin, Dead Sea Scrolls, The Ark in Turkey. But don’t worry, I myself an a Theist and I won’t condemn you. By proving God’s existence, this would mean taking Jesus’ words seriously We must love your enemies, wether it be non believers or believers of other religions. Never threaten, judge, or act superior.
Why weren't the words of Jesus ENOUGH for the people of the middle ages? Why were so many people killed, tortured, starved etc.. all in the name of Jesus
@KTTGHMTJWYCBLAC fair enough. But as far as I'm concerned about it, all religion is phony and fear based. Speaking as if God were a parent, you should never have to fear an ever lasting punishment because they're upset. You should be accepted correct?
If a sick man from India prays to altar full of his multi-gods and he is cured from cancer after treatment it was just the treatment. If a Christian prays to God before cancer treatment and is healed it is a miracle
@@TrainOnTheWater well besides the eyewitness testimonies of the gospels , it’s very strange that these random group of “crazy” people would go through persecution, torture, and death to teach others about Jesus. It’s not a coincidence man, even now Christianity is a very persecuted faith. Because it’s the Truth. I’m not sure if you were a former believer or not but i suggest you look into Christianity deeply.
As a Latter-Day Saint (Mormon), I find the simplistic way Dr. Turek rejects my beliefs to be consistent with a lot of his arguments: Simplify them and throw them away to make them seem not worth looking at.. he says he could make Golden plates in his garage, but could he produce a book like the Book of Mormon from those plates? Even if you don't believe it is true, this argument is so bogus. What Dr. Turek doesn't tell you is that Joseph Smith says he saw a vision fo the Father and the Son. How's that for a miracle? if we're so happy to believe the ancient texts of the bible, should we not at least look at similar witnesses and be fair to them.. of course not, because that undermines his arguments completely. Beware those who have clever arguments that reject the true things of God. "For they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me". I'll still watch the videos as he says many interesting things but I would advise anyone reading this to filter the message and don't believe it wholesale. and by the way if there are false prohpets, they are there to confuse people so they don't see the true prophets... it's simple people, ask God what is right, That's why I'm a member of my faith. You can listen to people all day long, including people like me, but ultaimtely you need to find out for yourself without their clever words and influence.
I see your point, friend. We don't believe in all the same things and that's alright. I look at LDS, Catholics, Coptics, Baptists, Lutherans, etc to all be denominations of the same umbrella. We're all about Jesus the Son of God. That's all the common ground we need. There's no reason to simplify and discard each other.
Reading the books of the New Testament, we possibly asked ourselves more than once: *"Why 2000 years we do not see those miracles that accompanied the Сhurch of Christ in the I century, as described in the New Testament?"* Why do the so-called preachers of Christ have to prove that Jesus really existed and atheists boldly deny the historicity or divine origin of Christ? Maybe because the Сhurch of Christ has not existed for 2000 years? The Сhurch does not exist in the form in which it is presented in the books of the New Testament, but there are Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant and other christian sects claiming to be the place of the Church, but they not have the only thing that distinguishes the divine from the human and is characteristic of just the Сhurch of Christ -the reinforcement of the word with signs, that is, miracles (Mark 16:15-20). Therefore, some researchers doubt the historicity of Christ, and some of them are not opposed to declaring him a an ordinary philosopher, teacher. But even if Jesus were an ordinary philosopher, his disciples would be ordinary followers of Jesus. And they would not dare to write about the miracles that not only Jesus, but also his disciples, could perform. In this world, the great fertility of atheism can be explained by the fact that there is no main opponent of critics of the Bible - the Church. If there were the Church in our time as described by the authors of the New Testament books, where miracles are performed, the sick are healed, where prophesied, and the dead are raised, no one would doubt the historicity of Christ. Then there would be the same controversy throughout the world as in the first century - Jesus the Son of God or the false prophet who seduces the world by miracles. As a result, we can say that the emergence and development of christian sects and atheism was the result of the fact that over the 2000 years the Сhurch of Christ did not exist. Find *"The Mystery about the Church of Christ"* video on UA-cam. The video reveals the prophecy of the disappearance and reappearance of the Church of Christ before the End of the World. Watching this video will give hope to all who sincerely seek God and will interest those who are not too lazy to think freely. Click on my name to watch the video (The video is in Russian, but English subtitles are included).
it's amazing that Frank can dismiss the miracles of other religions so easy and even say that the miracle claims of other religions pale in comparison to those reported in the bible. He evidentially hasn't read the much into the Islamic faith because it was said that Mohammed split the moon. I can’t think of a more spectacular miracle claim, yet Frank doesn’t seem to be aware of that one. What is evident is that the standards of evidence are not applied uniformly across the board when there are debates about topics which relate to theism vs theism. Frank may state that every miracle claim should be judged on its own merits, but he has essentially already given a blanket dismissal of the claims of other religions. However, he will always give an impassioned case for the authenticity of the miracle claims in the bible. When you consider his reasons for dismissing the other miracle claims consider the following; The Gospels are based on the conflicting accounts of 4 anonymous Authors written many years after the purported event that revolve around the life of Jesus Christ.
I agree with you. I don’t thank he is trying to prove anything to people that don’t believe in the Bible. I think he is just trying to reassure the people that do. I wonder how much Frank is worth?🤔
@@610huskymoto That's a fair point. I mentioned the inconsistency in how standards of evidence are applied, but we can also say there is a clear difference in how a theistic hypothesis is proposed when compared to the hypothesis that may be proposed as part of a scientific experiment. When we look a God hypothesis, the presumption is essentially that the proposition is fundamentally true. In arguing the case for the God hypothesis, the fundamental goal is not to provide evidence for this claim but more rather the goal is to try and poke holes in any competing naturalistic explanations. All the evidence that most theists need is in the good book so all that is left is to focus on the competing world view. I think Frank is smart guy and is an engaging speaker. He is confident and well drilled and certainly appears to make a convincing case for people who wouldn't be well versed in the scientific, philosophical and theological topics which underpin these debates. That said, fundamentally much of what Franks says is some variation of a God of the Gaps argument/and or a Red Herring fallacy or its also just not reasonable to draw the conclusions he makes based on the premises he gives. Even if one concedes that the Universe did indeed need a creator there no evidence to suggest that such a creator would be a conscious personal creator that is all knowing, all powerful and benevolent and that is specifically the God he believes in. The cause and effect argument requires special pleading because a major assumption needs to be made that the creator didn’t need a creator themselves and it completely ignores the fact that the laws of physics break down in a singularity so in that sense there is no reason to believe that we can invoke causality in way we do in the universe with defined laws of nature. Added to that we simply don’t know what preceded the Big Bang. Any suggestions to the contrary are conjecture. Fine tuning falls over in several different ways, not least because all it proves is that the Universe wouldn’t have formed if the constants of nature had been any different. It’s still an assumption to claim that the universe must have been created specifically for life because of this apartment fine tuning. Using the same logic, you could also conclude that the Universe was fine tined for black holes because they exist and are abundant throughout the universe. If the constants underpinning the laws of nature were changed in the smallest degrees, then black holes wouldn’t have been possible. Therefore, the Universe was fine tuned for Blackholes!! The logic doesn’t stand up and that’s before we even consider that the Universe is utterly unhospitable towards life. Throughout the entire Universe we only know of one planet that can support life and even then, everything on this planet is trying to kill us. Not to mention that life evolved to suit the conditions on earth and life will only be permitted on Earth for an infinitesimal spec of the life time of the Universe. Arguments in relation to the complexity of life requiring a designer is usually a combination of a God of the Gaps argument, drawing false analogies and completely ignoring evolution by natural selection. I think the morality is probably the weakest of all arguments for a God because it presents a Begging the Question fallacy. A God needs to be proven to exist in order to prove that an objective morality exists and so invoking a moral argument can’t be used as evidence for the existence of God. It is circular reasoning at best. Any arguments over Consciousness, Logic, reality and existence are not much more than Red Herrings to distract from the real argument. Even if science and/or philosophy had nothing useful to say about any of these topics this still wouldn’t be enough of a reason to invoke Divine Creation.
@@610huskymoto I can't really take any credit in fairness I have spent quite a bit of time listening to Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris and lately people like Matt Dillahunty and Alex O' Connor. These debates are not new and many of the points of debate have been discussed and debated for hundreds of years but advances in science, in particular, tend to open up fronts in the conversation. Its very refreshing to see well documented greater thinkers, like the guys I have mentioned, engage on these topics. I have learned a huge amount and thats why I enjoy these debates. What ever position a person takes on this, there is a huge amount to learn if one is open to doing so.
"Frank Turek... lying for God" would be a better title for these videos. Cherry picking, misrepresenting, and flat out lying is just about all he does. He lies about other religions, science, reality, his religion... just about anything. Its rather sad, as is the number of people that believe him because they don't take 5 minutes to check his claims.
@@Chiller31916 the first one in this video... _the new religion in america is the religion of sex_ (talking about transgender and other related topics). This is an example of him using dishonest wording to lie about what a topic is and poison the well before even beginning to try to talk about it properly... not to mention twisting the definition and use of the word "religion" into muddy pointlessness. First one on the topic of the video... _"When you evaluate them_ (miracles) _on a case-by-case basis, they pale in comparison to Christianity"_ This is a flat out lie because many of the supposed miracles of other religions are _EXACTLY_ the same as ones from Christianity, and even the "greatest" miracle of Christianity (the resurrection of Christ) is mirrored and even surpassed by many supposed miracles of many other faiths that do the same sort of thing or do it even bigger. He then decides to not even try to compare apples to apples and cherry-picks topics in some religions that he things he can attack, some of which he completely misrepresents. He also misrepresents Islam in regards to miracles by presenting half-truths. The only sources that I could find which say what he says about Muhammad and miracles are Christian apologetic sources that are trying to discredit Islam. The closest thing to what he presents that I found from an actual Islamic source was Muhammad claiming that the miracles were not done by him, but by Allah, and that he was just a messenger or target of them. Twist that around and ignore what is actually written in the Qur'an in other places and you get close to what he is presenting here. He also claims that the gospels were eye-witness accounts even though they were written down by unknown authors at least a full generation after the events were supposed to have taken place. ... this is only about 2 min in... I don't think I want to waste my time listening to the rest and going through just for someone to counter with the inevitable nuh-uh. (yes, I know its coming) ... it is funny though when he starts with _"what evidence do you have for that"_ while talking about the claims of other religions. OH THE IRONY!
The funny this is about the comparison to Buddha and Jesus is... Buddha consistently denied his deity. Jesus did not. Maybe there was some miraculous light after he died, so what? Doesn't prove he's a god.
The problem with Turek’s response is that he takes the Bible at face value when it says there were eye-witnesses to the resurrection. Also, I don’t think he ever mentions that we don’t really know who wrote the 4 gospels; also, we don’t have good reason to attribute them to The disciples of Matthew, Mark, Luke & John.
@@ffmmain8673 The irony is that apologists like Turek seemingly are able to apply critical thinking and skepticism when evaluating the supernatural/miracle claims of other religions. But all that goes out the window when they are asked to defend the supernatural/miracle claims of their religion.
I am mormon and you missed completely the right point when you said you could make golden plates in your garage. The golden plates is not the miracle clearly, the miracle is THE CONTENT.
He also doesn't mention the Jospeh Smith's vision or any of the other number of miracles recorded by early LDS pioneers. Honestly, I think God can perform miracles for all his children no matter what religion they are in. How do any of us actually know that a miracle occurred upon the death of Buddha? We don't. Or that Christ fed 5,000. It's about faith. I like a lot of what this guy says in other videos but I dont agree with this one.
Just like he has no evidence to prove or disprove anything you are choosing to believe blindly in some guy from the 1800s walking through the woods saying he has all the answers. Would you belive it if Joseph Smith walked up to you today, as a stranger, and said I've got all the answers trust me? I dont think you would, you would call him a heretic and not listen. Am I wrong?
the content, the lack of archeological evidence, comparing with biblical scripture and the changing of christian doctrine for organizational benefit disprove mormonism. there may be some mormons that are christians but mormonism is clearly not christian but is a cultic warping of it.
@@jaydenbecker2757 just like he said in this video you put to test the things he says. You don’t believe anything anyone says until you research what he is saying pray about it and ask for Gods spirit to enlighten you to know if it is true. My guess is you have not done this about the prophet JS otherwise you would be a Latter Day Saint Christian. I would recommend you read the Book of Mormon and look up the foot notes at the bottom of the pages that references the Bible and compare to see how close it actually matches up with the Bible I think you would be surprised. There is only one church and it was established in the 1800s if you are not apart of it you are apart of the church of the devil period. Get a Book of Mormon read it get a testimony and be baptized.
I studied all the worlds religions. Christianity and Buddhism are very similar and how they teach morality, except Buddhism has no God. That again begs the question “who decides what is moral?”
Louis Cario No that’s not why it’s because people have harden their hearts or I’ve had something bad to them happen with in the church. They use lack of evidence as the last straw there’s plenty of evidence
It's not lack of evidence, it is lack of being satisfied, the flesh body rules the mind. The parable of the sower and the seed is a good example of explanation. The seed fell on several kinds of ground that was not conducive to growing adequate roots to sustain life. We have to learn how to overcome the flesh body by getting rid of the rocks and tilling the hard soil so the roots will allow the planting to flourish. The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak.
We are special nation acces miracle directly from god our surrounding we nation who use intelect,science,councious etc..compare to previous nation.. miracle suppose strenghten faith..nation eg children of isreal witness and faced or receive bless from GOD yet kill prophet disobey them..different between beliver..either they grateful or not..creation all share similar traits..CREATED.. human didnt create their own self..we just utilize what god create.
"The church becomes all about me and what God can give me, then that's not Christianity" wow, that truth hits
Sometimes those people are called babes in Christ, and after so long if you stay a babe for so long and don't produce any fruit God will cut you off.
@Miko Chu babes are not always quiet, What do babes do? Cry and get emotional, they get offended and complain, still in sin. In 1 Peter 2:1-2 God is saying to put off sin as newborn babes. Revelation 3:15-16 says what will happen if you don't. Also how can they be unbelievers if they are believing what God can do for them? (Going back on your first comment)
@Miko Chu I trust in God not man. Give me proof through his word. If u can't back up your argument with scripture, then it's just an opinion.
@Miko Chu 😳
Miko Chu Scripture is the Word of God though
I’m addicted to these videos. Frank Turek is an awesome God fearing man and I love watching these. It answers a lot of questions I have and it helps me in my walk with Christ along with the Bible and prayer. Knowing why I believe what I believe is my struggle but these help me.
God fearing, why fear the non existent?
@@timothywilliams4089 more especially in this particular video he is just talking gubbish. Theists just wanna believe they really don't care about the truth
Dear atheist,
Do you believe in the scientific impossibility that everything came out of nothing..?
@@JESUSCHRIST-jw3tb That’s a nice straw man you got there but who said something came from nothing?
Did everything came from something? From where did that starting something came from?
What was before the big bang? Why should big bang occur? What is the purpose of universe?
Anything that has evidence and is subject able to experimentation & verification is Science. Does big bang qualify these Scientific variables?
When there is a building there must be a builder. Building cannot build themselves. Building alone is the proof of the builder.
When there is a painting there must be a painter.
When there is creation, there must be a CREATOR. Creation is the proof of GOD.
"The heavens declare the glory of GOD and the firmament sheweth HIS handywork"
(Psalm 19:1)
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I was asked that once. I brought up pharoah's magicians when Moses threw his staff down and it turned into a snake. The magicians threw their staffs down and they also turned into snakes. Ending with Moses's snakes devouring the other magicians. In other words other religions can counterfeit signs and miracles but they are nothing compared to our God.
It was more like Moses was saying that he had a bigger snake. Almost like their gods were just weaker than his. A bit of a snake measuring contest.
@@timeshark8727 That's one way of looking at it. But when you have questions or statements made that other religions have miracles so they have to be real. Even if its false If you can provide some type of evidence people will believe. But when you explain how the evidence is counterfeit that helps to woke up those who were deceived by lies.
I saw that Cain. It's in Birmingham museum.
@@Shamsi419 authentic?
Quincy Cole well it didn’t do any miracles lol but it looks legit. It’s a small staff covered in Hebrew writing
So many of these questions start with "I'm asking for a friend" lol
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Better than not asking at all... seekers are getting answers either way...
Has the same energy as “They’re in another school” 😂
@@victordali2404they mean it's usually them that wants to know but too afraid to say it's them they're asking for.
“Maintain spirituality without the moral accountability” BINGO!! I feel like thats what most people want...they don’t like truth
JAViLL exactly! Blaise Pascal once said, "People almost invariably arrive at their beliefs not on the basis of proof but on the basis of what they find attractive. People know instinctively that If Christianity is true they will lose control, and they will not be able to live anyway they wish. Therefore, they despise it and don't want it to be true, yet fear that it may be true."
G 1st yeah sorry but no
G 1st you may be right about some folks
JAViLL Christianity has a justice system that has nothing to do with moral accountability, stemming from a God that has no moral accountability.
What truth? I find a lot of people on these channels have no clue what is true.can you enlighten me?
Matthew 24:24
24 For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.
Convenient, huh?
@@ElGatoVato768 You know the greatest miracle was the resurrection. If some false prophets talk about the future but dies in the end. What does it matter?
I don´t know if you are an atheist a muslim or a buddhist or somthing else. You are here. You want to know the truth. Perhaps you think you already found the truth. That there is no god.
In Jeremiah 29:13 "it is said: You will seek me and find me when you search for me with all your heart." Perhaps you think, no I don´t want to. But you have literally nothing to lose. And I just want to know someting. Let´s assume Jesus is the son of god, would you follow him. Or would you deny him even if you would know it´s true?
@@monamuller8969 i would have a lenghty discussion with him before thinking of following him
@@ElGatoVato768 That´s a honest reply. :) I mean I believe if you seek the truth with your heart you will find it. And if you want to discuss with Jesus. You could actually do that. It sounds crazy but it works through prayer (talking to Jesus) and bible reading. It´s actually so simple. Instead of never trying and never really knowing if it was actually true, just try it. I mean, it´s clearly your choice if you want to or not. :)
Let's forget the other hundred lines that completely contradict that.
God is greater than religion
What God?
@@Racquetman8448 THEE God. The same God of Judaism, Christanity and Islam.
Malorie not Islam. Islam is one of the biggest perverse things to ever exist
@@LoneCrusader Christanity and Judiasm have also been perversed. And I don't follow the religion Islam or Judaism but they certainly all believe in the same God. Man just perversed the text. Only true word is through Jesus Christ.
"God is greater than religion"
Which god or goddess do you mean?
The real miracle is just life, the fact that life exists here is so amazing yet people can't see that. If people could see this then every day would be a gift.
And when Jesus said he is the way the truth and the life then we have to appreciate that too.
Its not a miracle. Its chemistry.
The more you learn biology and chemistry the less it seems miraculous.
But its still amazing.
Not everything thats amazing needs a god.
Just watch "magic for humans" on netflix :D
@@adarwinterdror7245 life is still a miracle. What other planet has it been found on?
@@scruffmcgruffthecrimedawg5661 i dont know. Astronauts havent been to more than one moon and one other planet.
Have YOU been to other planets?
No? Than you dont know either.
But i can tell you this:
There are less than 10 planets in the only solar system we know for a fact that has a planet with life in it, so so far we have at least 10% chance for life on planets in this solar system.
There are billions of billions of solar systems and way more planets than that.
Even if it wasnt 10% but only 0.1% for planets with life, those are still really really good odds to have life in hundreds of thousands of other planets.
@@adarwinterdror7245 I don't think science should be used for disproving God. Its simply a way for humans to comprehend the world around them but we can't comprehend everything in this world.
Matthew 24;24 - "False prophets and false christs shall arise and perform signs and wonders and will deceive, if it were possible, even the elect."
Eric Smyth This verse was included in the story to keep you in line and to keep you from understanding reality.
Very True.
@Son Of Morning Deceived / you are also a man being deceived by lying spirits ...the truth will set you free ...Ave Satana! time is limited and his destination is damnation the abyss where hell fire is awaiting for his eternal soul and others that choose to follow him and his wickedness !
One way the cross of Christ / through his blood is forgiveness of sin leading to salvation...
@@uscg1381 you could say that, but why then would we need to understand reality if we have no point of reference? Still begs the question... you wouldnt need to understand reality if there really is no God.
This trinitarian speaker made so many lies about my religion Islam in just one sentence Lol There are so many miracles stated in The Qur'an like the entire quranic surah called Al Miraaj speaking how God miraclously took his prophet up to heavens then to Al Aqsa (Jerusalem) then back home (arab peninsulah) all in 1 day (at that time such a fast travel was impossible in human mind let alone making a tour of seven heavens & going to an other country soo distant, so many arab pagans falsely accused him of being a crazy a liar), like when God sent Angels to fight with muslims while they were largely out numbred & about to get exterminated, When arab pagans asked Prophet Muhammad peace be upon Him for a visible miracle= sign=Eya so God allowed the moon to split & get back in it's initial state (british empire recorded that indian historians recorded a sighting of moon split in half during that same periode), ..the Qur'an it self every verse is called eya=sign = miracle, & infact it contain so many miracles linguistic, scientific..& the list goes on. He lied also about the debut of hadith recording.
Thanks bringing this out ... 'when the church becoming...about me and what God can give me... that is not Christianity'. Good reminder. Thank you.
So basically - if a Christian sees a miracle it is true- don’t question how the the “miracle” could have happened naturally; if someone from another religion has a miracle question it a little and then dismiss it
Satan can also do miracles, seen throughout the bible (2 Corinthian 11:14). I have done many supernatural miracles. Is the miracle selfless? If not, it is from satan. For example, I could go and lay hands on the sick and they would heal in Jesus's name, but could never heal myself. All glory to Jesus. Selfless miracles = Godly miracles. Selfish miracles = satanic miracles
I hope you still see this. Idk about other denominations, but the Roman Catholic Church actually tries to disprove the miracle as having naturally occurred first. Each incident officially recognized by the Church goes under scrutiny from outside non-religious institutions or universities. Sometimes psychological examinations are done. In the case of stigmati for example, or people where bloody holes appear in the hands and feed (usually someone of deep faith), the person is kept under watchful eye to make sure they’re not self-harming or keeping the holes from healing up. In Lourdes,France where Mary appeared to a 14yr old girl a number of times back in 1858, though around 7000 healed cases have been claimed from those who have made the pilgrimage to the spot and have touched the waters that sprung up from where the encounters occurred after Mary directed her to drink from the muddy waters “meant for sinners,” (that’s an event you might find intriguing), only 70 have been confirmed as true bonafide unexplainable miracles. Many of the earlier healings lack the correct documentation for scientific review which means more could, but as of now, 70 is the official number of cases scrutinized, unexplainable, and sudden cures of things incurable.
@@chiragrulze True! Satan tries to copy everything God has done. That's the devil's trick. That's how the world stands deceived and seperated from the True God our Lord Jesus Christ. Watch John Ramirez's interviews on UA-cam, he was the 'General of Satan' as he explains himself. The devil knows every word of the Bible.
@@atharv-gautam what absolute BS
ANTHONY BOLTON Thats in the the bible. The Devil tries to copy Christ
This guy is quick to scrutinizes other people's beliefs like it's the most obvious thing to do. Yet accepts his own as if there's no possible way he could be wrong.
"what do you do with the miracles that other faiths claim?"
"I think you have to evaluate them on a case-by-case basis. And when you do they pale in comparison to Christianity"
Yeah okay buddy. He totally did that to Christianity to the point were he can confidential say that on stage, classic apologetics.
A lot of other religions are not well known enough to be able to just lump them in that pile and stamp them as not having miracles. Most would just fad from memory when only a couple people know about it.
To those 15 thousand people that liked, this my heart goes out to you, you poor poor misguided people
Right??? So many miracles in other faiths with 1st hand accounts which is more evidence than Christianity. Some being performed today or very recently compared to Christianity and he just ignores them all.
Christians are the biggest barrier to Christ unfortunately
An excellent point which I wish Frank would have brought up (and I know he already knows this) and one that I think answers the doubts from the skeptic even better is that we can sidestep the entire question of "what about the miracles of other religions?" by simply pointing out the exclusivity inherent in the Christian religion.
Jesus Christ claims to be the ONLY WAY TO GOD and, in fact, ONE WITH that same God, not to mention that he claims to alone be "the truth and the life" (John 14:6)
So he claims to be God himself and the ONLY God there is.
So right there, even if we have miraculous supernatural things truly occurring in other religions, it stands to reason, that if Christ's claims are true (proven thru various means such as the resurrection, etc), then that automatically excludes ALL OTHER religions from offering anyone any hope of some sort of pleasant afterlife, meeting God, going to heaven, being true themselves in offering a different God, etc
So it does not matter whether the skeptic of Christianity can prove miraculous things occurring in other religions, so long as the Christian claims concerning Christ remains true and haven't been aptly defeated by the skeptic, then it follows that all other religions are false except for Christianity.
As a side note, from a Christian perspective, there could indeed seem to be miracles occurring in other religions with no natural explanation. This could simply be the work of demonic forces as we know from scripture that they do such fake miracles to deceive others.
So we needn't automatically assume we have to DISprove miracles of other religions, because, given my above argument, Christianity would remain the only true religion despite the occurrence of miracles in other religions.
This is why I believe the above argument is a stronger one than what Frank offered (certainly no discredit meant to him) because Frank's answer could be problematic if one can prove a miracle(s) as happening in another religion, whereas the above argument is immune to any such attack no matter whether a miracle occurred in another religion or not.
Wow miracles happen in your religion are miracles but when it happens in other religions then it's a demonic power. Ehmm you can put any religion there, same excuse. This type of mentality is the reason why people are running away from religions.
I also had a friend who was Christian but then became Buddhist. He was doing things that he knew he aught not do, and Buddhism was a way to put away a guilty conscience.
never too late to reach out again
Other religions: "Miracle X happened". Frank Turek: "Do you have any evidence that happened?"
Do you, Frank? Do you? The inability of some religious fanatics to reflect on their ideas and actions, is incredible.
Well, other religions also perform miracles and signs but the source of it's power is what makes the difference.
I hope you are not implying that their ‘source of power’ is satan.
@@BearFruit90 He has nothing to imply
@@BearFruit90 Why would he be implying that? There are 1000s of religions that don't acknowledge Satan's existence at all.
@@jaydenbecker2757 Does that mean something has to be acknowledged to be true?
And also the eternal consequences of its results.
Most people are angry at religions (Christianity especially) because it doesn't allow them to continue to enjoy their favorite sins without guilt.
Why do religious people say this? People that don’t believe in a God is because lack of evidence or proof. That it. If someone could produce evidence for a specific God their would be only one God and a mass exodus towards that God. But there isn’t evidence, so all religions are faith based... ironic don’t you think.
When he accuses people who believe in different faiths of avoiding accountability, he's actually projecting his own shadow onto them. Because Christianity is all about dodging accountability; Jesus died for your sins, and you can avoid accountability and consequence if you believe in Him obey the Bible's commandments. But if you sin afterwards, don't worry, he'll forgive you of those sins, too. Just be sure that you feel really bad about yourself, and perceive yourself as a worthless dog that needs soul saving.
I rebuke you in the name of JESUS
@@blackinpublic4193 You rebuke me? So, which part about what I wrote is not true?
"For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."
"If you confess with your mouth 'Jesus is Lord' and believe God raised him from the dead, you will be saved."
"But God loved us in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."
"just as through one man's sin all die, so also through one man's obedience all are made righteous."
"For by grace you are saved through faith, and not of works, lest any man should boast."
Not exactly sure what you're rebuking. Christianity is clearly a "get out of jail free" card.
@@ghostwryteranonymous4910 "Christianity is clearly a "get out of jail free" card."
you hit the head on the nail
Interesting how Christians will use evidence and skepticism to question other religions and their veracity but won't use it on their own. Also, since when is the "impressiveness" of a supposed supernatural event a measuring stick to tell if something was supernatural or not. Also, and lastly, nice ad hominem attack on the lady's friend at the end who became a Buddhist.
Christianity has been scrutinized and challenged since its inception and continues to this day
It has withstood and overcome them all
Atheists have run out of arguments to challenge Christianity.
When you apply the distain for other religions to your own, you will understand the atheist perspective.
I am fairly impressed by some Buddhist claims, at least. For Christian ones, I try to bear some examples in mind - as well as the fact multiple denominations claim competing ones.
Thomas Askew “Amen”, brother.
@@DL-rl9bd Thank you, Zeus. You are indeed divine. LMFAO
In exodus, didnt Pharaoh's magiciens executed miracles such as turning wooden sticks into snakes ? So miracles in other religions are possible if you believe the bible
People chase for the peace of in the physical body more then the spiritual.
The physical body will soon fade away!
I love that last little bit about the church being the church. That’s something I’ve been talking about for a couple of years now, and finally starting to understand what true Christianity looks like thanks to that.
What evidence does he have that Christian miracles are more relevant than any other belief systems relationship to miracles. This guy has a really simplistic view of life
Frank, you have an incredible knowledge of physics, science and Christianity. But I think maybe if you studied up on other religious texts, you're debates could be so much more effective. God bless you man, you're doing good work.
no he does not....
@@paulrichards6894 what do you mean by that? How did you come to that conclusion?
How do you know your conclusions are true?
now my theory is frank is an atheist but his public persona says we got here by magic....thats in no way backed up by science..we have a pretty good idea how we got here and its not magic
@@paulrichards6894 yes we got here from nothing exploding into everything, thats magic. God is not magic however
@@Spriktor 98% of the members of the royal academy of Science are atheists so they don't think its magic
‘Todays Church is all about motivational speech dats not Christianity says it all’ 👍🏿👍🏿😁 super like
"What About the Miracles of Other Religions?"
Since Christianity hasn't proved any of it's miracles actually happened, Christianity is in the same boat as all other religions... none of them have proved any of their miracles have happened.
Well the fact that other non-biblical texts speak of it, is proof enough. The fact that for some reason these desert dwellers were able to change the entire political and religous authority of Europe and Africa is proof of something.
We have miracles happening today and do you know why secular sources don't record Jesus miracles? Because if they did record Jesus miracles, they would be affirming who he claimed to be, and also the Babylonian talmud record that he was being accused of sorcery, so to be acused of that means that he must have been doing something supernatural. And this also agrees with the Bible because in Mark is recorded that the Jews were telling people that Jesus did miracles by the power of Satan.
The only miracles that happened was when Jesus Christ came. There is prove because that is historical text- The Bible, the Quran, and the Torah all talk about Jesus. Even the Quran doesn't like Jesus, but they still talked abt him & that is true evidence that he exists and that he did these 'miracles'.
@@allynaquino3117 No evidence for any of those miracle has been presented.
@RetroMan You forgot to present any of this evidence.
Contending for validity of a religion based on whether or not there is supernatural power being displayed is irrelevant.
The reason why I say that is because satan can perform miracles as stated by God in the biblical account. Satan can also transform himself into other beings and therefore has the capacity to decieve with both power of the miraculous and visual stimulation.
I'm not saying any thing negative about Frank because I love him and think he is brilliant in apologetics. However his claim that other religions do not have valid miracles is false. Which is not to say they are equivalent to Christianity because they are not.
I said all of that because our faith in Christ should not be grounded in the miracles He did (sounds sketchy) but our faith should be grounded in trust in His WORDS and His authority, without evidence.
Why do I make that claim? I make that claim because Jesus Himself said many things relating to it but my two favorite are these:
1.) Blessed are those who believe in Me even thought they have never SEEN me. (That is a reference to satan's manifestations of power and miracles)
2.) My Sheep hear MY VOICE and will not follow another.(His VOICE and words hold more weight than seeing Him and His miracles.)
Now I also think it would help if I clarify that I am a bible believing Christian and I believe in and walk in the power of the Holy Spirit. (Not like average western charismatics) I've seen hundreds of healings while praying with people in grocery stores, bus stops, places of employment and etc, and I believe those amazing miracles have added to my faith, but they are not what my faith is grounded on.
I hope I have given a good explanation.
Like Frank always shares that God said with His own words that He did the greatest miracle of all, God created the heavens and the earth. Even though I can't see God physically, I believe His words which lead me to see Him spiritually everyday. ❤
Much love 😊
Boiling the whole video down: Our miracles are true, their miracles are false, the end.
Well the miracles Jesus did served a purpose. If it was done just for the heck of it, it was worthless and He rebuked it....for example in Quran their is a story of Mohammed casuing some kind of cr scent moon or something to do with the moon when asked to preform a miracle. What did that serve? Nothing. It did Nothing for any one. Much different than Jesus stance.
what about Jesus's "miracle" of cursing a fig tree(because it was not bearing fruit, because it was out of season(you'd think Jesus would kbow that))?
who did that help? what purpose did that serve?
@@Mockturtlesoup1 That act symbolises the spiritual deadness of Israel. Just prior he tore the market on the inner court apart. This was a Two day event apparently. One the day it was cursed and two the day it withered. Which is significant as the type of tree was a symbol for Israel.
@@Mockturtlesoup1 also, from what i understand, it might not have been fig season, but the tree was supposed to have the buds/start of figs that are also edible. It was literally bearing no fruit, and therefore was a worthless fig tree, which he used as a metaphor in his teaching.
Why can demons, er, reach Earth, at all?
It's incredibly smug and presumptuous to question the motives of someone you don't know- or even someone you do- because they don't believe the same things you do. Everyone has the right to be presumptuous, but don't assume others won't take notice or that it won't affect what they think of you and your own motives.
Absolutely. But with all thine getting, get understanding. Proverbs chapters 1-8.
The Christian argument is based on developing straw men: cherry picking points of attack, defaming characters and making arbitrary inferences and claims they cannot prove.
@@ghostwryteranonymous4910 no. It’s about surfing the truth and nothing else, knowing that people will be offended. Everyone wants to live in world where they won’t be held accountable for their sins. God WILL punish them if they don’t repent!
@@bepreparedforwhatscoming4975 Prove it.
Bingo
As a polytheist, I would like to say that it is possible for multiple different religions to have their own miracles; one of the main flaws of monotheism is that it applies special pleading when it comes to miracles, as they see miracles that occur in their religion as confirming it, but have to come up with all kinds of excuses to explain away the miracles of other religions.
Lots of religions of have stories of miracles; Shamanistic religions attribute healing powers to shamans via the spirits, the hurricanes that destroyed the Mongol armies who invaded Japan were attributed as miracles from the kami, the Roman statesman Marcus Terentius Varro theorized that diseases were caused by tiny organisms ala bacteria and viruses, despite the fact that the technology to see and confirm these things hadn't been invented yet, which one could interpret as a miracle from one or more of the Roman gods.
The irony of a Christian asking evidence for miracles.
Atheism is just "turtles all the way down" with the multiverse theory that's so popular now.
Do some of you’re own research, the evidence for the resurrection of Jesus is pretty immense. All those people who truly believed they saw him after death after some originally doubted and people who hated Christians and killed them with passion changes after claiming that Jesus spoke to him. There are so many amazing things that have only one explanation that even none believers agree upon.
@@that1guy591
"Do some of you’re own research, the evidence for the resurrection of Jesus is pretty immense. All those people who truly believed they saw him after death after some originally doubted and people who hated Christians and killed them with passion changes after claiming that Jesus spoke to him. There are so many amazing things that have only one explanation that even none believers agree upon."
Yet it is absent from history books that report known facts....
170221dn As you have proven people naturally want to deny God and have removed church from state, the Bible literally consist of ancient historical documents detailing experiences and journeys and Gods word. Just because you don’t want to believe what is written doesn’t mean it isn’t true😄 Try studying the documents and history yourself and don’t take schools word as law, they are always finding new things and re-writing history👌
I've gone through the historical documents of NT scholars. The new testaments were originally written in Greek by highly educated Christian's and not eye witnesses. Explain to me how the first forged gospel account of Mark didn't know that Mary was a virgin but the account of Matthew suddenly explains it later. Also there's a vast difference in the Character of Jesus before the crucifixion in Mark's account and The Gospel According to Luke. One speaks of a forsaken character and the other speaks of a character totally aware that God is on his side. The conventional method would be to jam the stories but that's not how the stories are supposed to be read since they were not written at the same but decades later. The so called evidence of the resurrection is only mentioned in the forged gospels which aren't reliable sources and nothing outside the Bible according to the new testament. scholars
Hey Frank, didn't the questioner say that his followers saw this? Isn't that exact same evidence that you have?
Except frank didn’t see anything
@@RealAntek exactly, cant trust eye witness accounts unless they are christian
@@ahmetsaidalkur50 Or there is more evidence than eye witness accounts
lol .....christianity is absolved of such levels of scrutiny hehe
If you look into the gods and miracles of other religions...I mean REALLY look into them, you will see that their gods and their miracles were of demons. Their miracles would require sacrifices of virgins, babies, people cutting themselves, doing drugs, having sex, being intoxicated for or during their "religious" ceremonies. If you have depictions of their gods, eg: Egyptian, Sumerian, Hindu, etc, they resembled fallen angelic beings taking shape in the form of things or animals that the people worshipped. Early man had high intelligence in things lost to us but we also have intelligence not privily to them. So if an Egyptian feared the crocodile or alligator as some dirty (for whatever reason) the fallen angel would come as a human with a crocodile head. The christian God doesn't require such sacrifices. Only the sacrifice of one's will of self destruction unto the will of life through Christ.
That's deity not dirty...the spell check switched it on me.
2:58 totally misunderstood and wrong definition of Karma.Sadhguru released a whole book on Karma recently.I think Mr Frank needs one.Based his definition of Karma,I'm sorry to say...he is clueless.
He's not clueless, he's a lying book--selling hustler.
@@jerrylanglois7892 😆🤣
So it is so simple! Christian miracles don't require any evidence. For any other miracle evidence is required.
If my people who are called by My Name, will humble themselves, praying, seeking My Face to turn from their wicked ways. Then I will hear from Heaven and heal their land.
Amazing content, sir! Thanks for doing this :)
Mr Turek is awesome! Just found this channel!
The biggest issue with cristian apologetics is that any argument against god it is followed by "you steal from god"
objective morality is simply impossible to argue without there being a God. If there is no God then there has to be moral relativity. But we do have strong moral absolutes- its a contradiction.
These answers are ridiculous. He’s seriously denying that there is any evidence for miracles in other religions that meet the same standard that he accepts for Christian miracles? Frank - you need to be more honest about your standards of evidence for your own religion, you seem to be requiring a higher standard of evidence for others than you apply to your own beliefs.
It's hilarious to me to see Turek be forced to use atheist logic to refute every religion but his own.
3:52 - Whoa!!! She left Christianity for Buddhism because she wanted to continue sinning according to the Bible? What kind of Straw Man fallacy crap is that? We don't know the supposed "sin" or what the person's reason was for their disbelief in Christianity but you make the assumption she left because she wants to sin???? That's a logic jump if ever spoken! And do you know what the Buddhist texts even say? For having the word "examined" in your name, you sure make some crazy fallacious jumps there.
Perhaps she found their ethics less tautological, too...
People LOVE to sin.
2:26. That's not the Miracle of Mormonism, far from it. Joseph Smith Claimed to have seen God and Christ together who told him to not join any church at the time.
Even though the bible says that if someone actually see's God that they "would surely die" and I feel like Joseph Smith was trying to elevate himself to be at the same level and importance as Moses who did spend time with God on the mountain of Zion where God revealed a small piece of himself to Moses and when Moses would come off the mountain witnesses said he would be glowing a bright white where Gods glory was radiating off of moses from just being in Gods presence and God wasn't even fully revealed only what Moses could comprehend
It's good to hear no political correctness but real biblical talk.
The miracle of Mormonism is not the plates themselves, but the message on them. Now that, Frank, is a true miracle.
I'm a Christian, but I think you're setting people up to be deceived if you say that other religions aren't capable of miracles.
What about when Pharaoh's magicians duplicated Moses' miracles in Exodus 7:22 through the use of secret arts?
What about in Revelation 13:13 where it says that the 2nd Beast performed great signs and was able to make fire come from heaven?
"Because of the signs it was given to perform on behalf of the first beast, it deceived those who dwell on the earth."
The difference is that unlike the Holy Spirit, their miracles are limited and finite, but they're still within the realm of what people would consider "supernatural", which is what gives them the ability to deceive people who think that only Christ is capable of miracles.
That's a really good question and one that I've thought about in depth; until I came to the realisation that the Pharaohs were in fact pagans. They were idol worshipers (think Isis, Horus etc..). Their entire belief system was based on an idol religion; which is in turn based fundamentally on Satanism. So it is not implausible to conclude that some of the "miracles" they performed was the direct result of black magic inspired by Satan himself. Don't forget that Satan is the master deceiver.
@@MrAndyGA do u believe magic is real?
does that mean he's deceiving them?
@@MrAndyGA are they satanists by your definition or theirs? Does your label apply to them or do they decide who they are? Does magic and witchcraft exist with real effects that can measured physically?
@@MrAndyGA if satan is the master deciever then how do you know satan didnt write the bible?
Someone who constantly changes their religion doesn't have any room to debate other faiths.
Hi frank. I stumble onto you today and after watching a few videos I subscribe God bless you brother may the Lord strengthen your wisdom and may you continue to help interpret Christianity to those who have question "fight the good fight"
As a Christian who has studied some other religions, I have to say that Frank has very little understanding of Hinduism.
Johnny Ma'boy Correct. They are two different religions though. Buddhism is nontheistic, while Hinduism is polytheistic.
@@PockASqueeno Hinduism is not polytheism. you don't have sufficient knowledge to understand Hinduism
making disciples is something that the church in America forgets about all too much.
So many logical shortcomings. But to be fair, he is evaluating other religions and ideologies in the framework of christianity
He mocks other religions much more easily than than he does Christianity. Mocking Christianity is extremely easy. Not sure why he doesn’t go there.
Every believer should definitely hunger to be a disciple, that's where the real rewards are.
@@flanderg123and I guess you don't understand the fact that satan and the fallen angels have already been judged, hell is waiting for them.
@@flanderg123 you said even satan believes which makes me think that you don't understand that Christ died for the human race alone, not the fallen angels
@@flanderg123 and you say sell everything you have a follow Jesus, that's discipleship, theres many disciples but many of them are not even saved, are you saved?
@@flanderg123 logic you say, sure
@@flanderg123 good luck with that
This guy knows his stuff. God bless him.
This guy knows nothing.
Frank has been answering the same questions for years. He’s like a refrigerator salesman selling the same fridge for 20 years. Yeah, he knows his product.
@@KC-fb8ql Ha that's a good one. To many guys like that one
The great miracle of atheism: a fine tuned universe that came into being by an explosion created by nothing.
majinhiei7 thats not what atheists say
Also the universe is not fine tuned
maroom1 this ignorant reply shows you have no idea what you're talking about. Do yourself a favor and research how SCIENTISTS discovered how the universe is fine tuned before you reply again.
The fact that you think that athiest (or scientist) believe that origin of universe (big bang) is an explosion out of noting only show how ignorant you are. You have no idea what you are talking about. Show me a well known athiest who claims that universe came from explosion out of noting ?! I Big bang is about expansion of the universe from singularity. The singularity itself has all stuff that make up the universe but it was it more dense state. Nobody ever said explosion out of noting, nobody have ever seen anything that come out of noting.
And fine tuned argument has been already refuted many times. Do research
maroom1 yeah I just did and really, atheists believe it's false yet theists don't. Kinda like evolution, atheists and theists in general will never agree on it. Might as well stop now before we go back and forth insulting each other. Funny though, I could have sworn that Richard Dawkins said the universe seems finely tuned.
majinhiei7 Your mistake is thinking "finely tuned" means there is some great piano repair man in the sky. The only logical solution is that there are many universes, most of which are not capable of supporting life. The vacuum of space creates something out of nothing all the time. It's probably too much for a religious person to comprehend but pairs of particles are being created and then annihilated (Heisenberg's uncertainty principle). Virtual photons are being created out of nothing and is scientifically proven by the Casimir effect. Choose science, it is a lot more wondrous than just saying "God did it".
4:16 to 5:56 wow that’s just pure facts sadly that’s how many people are especially most so called conscious people and sage burners and new-agers.
I was fairly impressed with Frank until I watched him with Christopher Hitchens. I was disappointed to watch him swallowed up by anger and frustration and argue with such emotion. I’m not anything close to an Atheist, on the contrary I strive to live true Christianity. A lot of what this guy says is solid, but beware of what he discounts. Beware of his “logical proofs” because they tend to be utterly besides the point. Faith is the principle from which you find the Power of God. It can be tested with reason and stand up to intellectual scrutiny.
About those “Gold Plates” and Mormonism. I’d recommend people look into that a much closer. Frank tries to trivialize them in a fashion similar to someone claiming “I can make bread and catch fish too!” Such an argument when understood in context is absurd. The object is not the miracle. Taking miracles on a case by case basis requires understanding the case. Read the testimonies of the witnesses to the plates. Pray and ask God and receive revelation for yourself. Contrary to what this man says, the canon is not closed. If so there is a great flaw in the scriptures because they say no such thing. YOU can receive revelation and God calls prophets today.
@Hineni John3:16 What's the context of that though?
Amen brother you make a great point. Let God do the debating. God bless you in the name of Lord Jesus the Messiah.
hitchens is now a DEAD man to bad for him he now knows the truth cherrio old fellow
The last questions about modern church was gooooood . Motivational talks all about me me me yeah .
Well said 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
👉🏼We will make disciples and not just believers ❤
👉🏼 preaching not be just motivational speeches not about me and I and what Jesus can do for me.- this is Not Christianity ❤
Religion 101....deny all other unfounded religious claims so you can narrow it down to your unfounded religious claims
Your beginning comments on the religion of sex is something I've been thinking on for some time. What we are seeing here in my opinion is the newest incarnation of the goddess of sex. In the past she went by Inanna, then Ishtar, Astarte, Aphrodite, Venus, and now she is an invisible obsession in our culture. It's just an old idol with a new paint job.
To be more accurate, it's an old demon...
I'm a Christian, and I generally like Frank Turek, but he's way off the rails on karma.
Believing in karma doesn't require that you don't believe in God.
Sow and reap.
It doesn't require a god, actually Hinduism has no god, but they still believe in karma.
Buddhismus has a "god", but also believes in karma.
My Word Religions teacher told the class that the story of Jesus and Peter walking on water was added later to make Christianity more appealing to potential converts of other religions. He said that the story was taken from a story written a long time before Jesus. A monk that would eventually be identified as one of Buddha’s past life’s? What can I say to this?
Sounds unusual. Also, sources?
claims have to be backed up
1:50 - Islam, difference between Hadith and Quran
2:12 - Mormonism
2:31 and 3:40 - Buddha and the light. Ask, “What do you mean by that? How did you come to that conclusion?”
He is asking for evidence? Now, that's some irony.
James Scobie thats what I said
Religion in a nutshell
Maybe only one religion has sufficient cumulative evidence. NO IRONY AT ALL. Intelligent people investigate each religion and will immediately recognize that one makes more sense than the others. They will eventually find that Jesus Christ did not come to establish a religion but rather a RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM.
Now, if only people would search honestly?
At the end, Atheism offers nothing. No hope, no justice, just a false humility that they going to always search and research until they find.
Interesting, they are always researching matter that already existed? They study stuff that cannot create itself.
Unless there is a creator that is neither created but eternally existed?
OK .. I GUESS I'M THE FOOL HERE. ATHEISM????? Keep on searching people , you are the "honest" ones ?
SOLO CHRISTO yes you are the fool here all religions are the same, just a bed time story really
no. Christians, just like members of every other religion, do not search/research honestly for which religion is true. they simply accept the religion they were raised to believe in, and then go out and(with strong subjectivity and confirmation bias) seek evidence to support what they already believe, and evidence to reject what they don't believe.
this is why 99.9% of people on earth believe in the god/religion of their parents and/or society they were raised in.
Here's a miracle - apparently, Frank Turek is a mind reader who knows the motivations of everyone who isn't a Christian.
Lol not really. The >implication< was that a Christian became a Buddhist after learning it was more true than christianity. Frank pointed back that the reason was likely because they didnt come to know something they previously didnt. Its just that buddhism fits their agenda more where they can live how they want and justt try to be good to people.
This type of arrogance and ignorance is one of the many reasons why i left christianity. The claims of high spiritual morality among Christians, but nothing to back up the claims, in fact, the opposite normally happens, with passing the buck. Its really hard to take these supposed pastors and leaders seriously. I left christianity for buddhism, partially because of all this immorality and unspiritual attitudes masquerading as their opposite.
Sorry, but... THAT is a lame answer to the question asked. "You have to evaluate them on a case by case basis and when you do that they pale in comparison.....". Do you KNOW what miracles are claimed by other religions to even evaluate? They're a lot of the same types of miracles: Levitation, healing, raising from dead, etc. In fact, unlike the stories passed down via hearsay there's video evidence of miracles today where you can see someone floating or people being healed. Now, a person can skeptically say those are faked, but in terms of actual evidence, it certainly doesn't "pale in comparison".
"Do you know what the new religion in America is?"
Atheism?
"The religion of sex"
Damn it! That was my second option.
This trinitarian speaker made so many lies about my religion Islam in just one sentence Lol There are so many miracles stated in The Qur'an like the entire quranic surah called "Al Israa" speaking how God miraclously took his prophet up to heavens then to Al Aqsa (Jerusalem) then back home (arab peninsulah) all in 1 day (at that time such a fast travel was impossible in human mind let alone making a tour of seven heavens & going to an other country soo distant, so many arab pagans falsely accused him of being a crazy a liar), like when God sent Angels to fight with muslims while they were largely out numbred & about to get exterminated, When arab pagans asked Prophet Muhammad peace be upon Him for a visible miracle= sign=Eya so God allowed the moon to split & get back in it's initial state (british empire recorded that indian historians recorded a sighting of moon split in half during that same periode), ..the Qur'an it self every verse is called eya=sign = miracle, & infact it contain so many miracles linguistic, scientific..& the list goes on. He lied also about the debut of hadith recording. Now u know which "religion" he is speaking about & is living rent free inside his mind
@@mbarnabeus Shut up.. You know that your religion is wrong, thtas why ypur copy and pasting everywhere. Your going. To hell if you do not worship Jesus.
@@mbarnabeus muhammad made no miracles in the quran
@@astroyt. lol so if your pastor is caught lying u just say amen & insult the one exposing him with clear cut evidences?! No u shut up your religion is fake & always been based in this type of lies seen here with this guy! It has nothing to do with the real belief of Jesus Christ peace be upon Him; u believe in the gospels of John luke mathew..persons u don't even know what their family names are lol & with zero chain of narration in other words it doesn't even reach the degree of authenticity of a rejected "weak" degree hadith. Who is going to hell? The one who worship other than God The Creator, or the one that believes that God The Immortal (even your o.t. say that) got stripped naked killed by a satanic roman soldier & thus become in the words of paul "a cursed God" in his chapter galatians, then u need to glorify the alleged diocide weapon = cross or else go to hell? The list of blasphemies in your falsified belief go on & on. Not here to waste time debating dumb brainwashed; end of discussion.
@@LANDRYPHYNO hhh did u even read my comment u brainwashed we r in 2021 read my comment & the entire surah named after one of the miracles done by God on his servant & prophet Muhammad peace be upon Him, use google to verify how can u be so blind while u have internet?!
3:00 Quick correction that's actually Dharma. And the caste system of the ancient Hindu belief believing in what you do in one life affects you and what will become the next. It's all still karma, but there's more intricacy in it than just that. I am a Christian scriptural apologist who has been studying theologies faith and scripture for over 21 years and took a short sabbatical to study Buddhism and at its roots Hinduism for an uncle of mine, struggling in his marrage to a proclaiming Buddhist woman wanting to raise her children in the same lifestyle.
The worst torture someone can experience is reincarnation. Some say even worst than hell, why would you want to live on this earth over and over?
@Eduardo Martinez with my mental illnesses, my WORST result is having to go through this terrible life AGAIN!
Not quite sure I understand the logic of that statement. In concept. In theory reincarnation is a moment in time, generally scrubbed from one's memory, mostly. And then not experienced again until your next death.
Hell is a place of eternal final placement ,void of all things God. A place of absolutely no life, no "light" and no love.
And life on earth is nothing in comparison to the concept of the agony of existence without life.
People from.different times of our history, or people today of different cultures and exsistances only wish they could have been so lucky.
Mental illness and the pain of reincarnation. Really? 1 in 4 people suffer from some sort of mental illness. And do you know what most all of them have in common. They believe their alone. Mental illness isn't all that uncommon anymore. Infant it's so common, I'm not convinced that it's just not another label or a typing built to suppress the mind that much more. When did we just stop calling it depression? And when was depression a new thing?
Walk the streets of any city and look for the lost souls. Who are people in so much pain everyday at the thought of living life, they can't wait until their next hi so they can forget the world that much more once again.
No I'm sorry. But I don't think we have a Mental illness problem, I don't even think we have a depression problem. I just think, that we live in a world where mankind has gotten too good ... and too comfortable with not growing up and feeling sorry for themselves is just the norm. It's our way of life. It's like using ur zodiac to instantly try to figure people out instead of getting to know them in the first place. It's excuses and it always has been. Everyone experiences pain and at one time or another everyone experiences depression. The difference is what you do with it. Do we use it as an excuse? Or move on and get on with our lives?..
Frank I think the guy meant wonders, like extraordinary things. For instance someone getting healed or turning into a dog or stone using another deity’s powers other than our living God. Pharaohs sorcerers were able to turn their staff into snakes yet they were not using Gods power. Best answer would be just because they are doing miracles doesn’t mean they are from God. And you can use Mathew 24:24 in support “For false messiahs and false prophets will rise up and perform great signs and wonders so as to deceive, if possible, even God’s chosen ones. 25 See, I have warned you about this ahead of time.”
I'm impressed how incorrect his understandings on all the major religions, including his own, are. "Hinduism" is a slang for Sanatan Dharma (Eternal Duty) and Buddhism is a branch of it where God came down as the Buddha to help atheists go on a better path, and to protect animals from cruelty and uneeded killing (which are sins according to all the major religions) by not talking about God (if he did...well look at what happen to Jesus). The Bible agrees with "Hindu" (Vedic) teachings about God AND karma AND being saved from sin in order to reach God's eternal kingdom (not all "Hindus" and certainly not all Buddhists are ready for that exact destination, though but Buddhists accept karma). Krishna's Vedas are probably where Jesus learned how to do miracles when he was age12-30 (Christians can't deny this because they deleted that part of his life).
Most people don’t have a full/accurate understanding of any religion. Examples:
Jesus was originally called Jesus OF the Christ. Christ is Christos in Greek/Latin, & Christos is another name for Krishna. Krishna says he’s the father of all creatures, & Christ says the father is “greater than I.” Vedas are the 1st to teach how God, A.k.a Krishna A.k.a Vishnu, created the Great Flood to destroy sin. He also did miracles & offers to save followers from sin. Jesus’ miracles remind me of things done using Vedic-science (his life from ages 12-29 was deleted…possibly due to learning Vedic-science according to many sources & some evidence).
Vedas were written over 5,000 years ago but known eternally before that. All major religions/sciences stemmed from Vedas. Buddha, Christ were 1st mentioned there, as was all math, oldest histories, other planets, Relativity, etc. It also gave the socio-economic system that dominated/thrived all over (the spiritually centered, merit based Varna system) BEFORE it was corrupted into a birth-based caste system. ALL life was respected with compassion (killing animals was allowed in rare, unavoidable situations, especially with minimal suffering to the animal...all of which is what the Bible actually teaches). Vedic teachings share the same core teachings as the Bible (including having 1 supreme personal God) but because Vedas are so detailed & allow variations for people who are less good/truthful, it ALSO mentions God with his impersonal energy aspect (Brahman) and many “Gods” (AKA angels) and people misunderstand.
Vedic shape/age of Earth is confirmed by modern science, but Vedas have their own more detailed/advanced/accurate model of creation/evolution (involving spiritual evolution of mind). We WERE all perfect because we all came from the PERFECT person (God) but we abused our free will with God and were sent to this struggle on Earth and God sent Jesus because he was the only way for the very sinful people to whom his message was meant for, not all people of all times. Hate the sin, love the sinner.
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Ugh. I cringe when he demands a certain standard of evidence for some claims, but not others.
Example?
@@Joshtheigbo Questioner: What do you do with the miracles that other faiths claim?
Answer (paraphrasing): We need to evaluate miracles on a case by case basis. What are the supposed miracles of Mormonism? Golden plates. I can do that in my garage. How is that a miracle? Another example, supposedly there was a miracle when the Buddha died, what evidence is there for that?
My issue: Supposedly there was a miracle when Jesus rose from the dead. You can ask the same question, what evidence is there for that? The standards of evidence put forth in both situations (Buddha and Jesus) is (I argue) on par, and yet he seems to think the evidence of Jesus’ resurrection is of more substance than Buddha’s death miracle without demonstrating why. The evidence he puts forth for the veracity of Christian miracles is that no other religion has eyewitness accounts. This is patently false. Lots of religions claim to have eyewitness accounts of miracles. A google search will show that.
Furthermore, he’s willing to come up with hypothetical situations demonstrating how easily golden plates could be procured since he could make them in his garage. Why doesn’t he do the same with his own religion? Couldn’t he come up with stone tablets with the ten commandments on them in his garage as well? He’s not applying the same level of scrutiny to his own religion as he’s doing to others and so I cringe at the obvious bias.
@@Anonymous-de8uw Can I ask what makes you think the evidence for both is on par?
@@colmwhateveryoulike3240 Ya, that's a good question. I think a lot of religious discussion would be better if people all had a common understanding of what constitutes good evidence.
I guess I'll start with Carl Sagan, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." When your friend, whom you trust and has told you the truth in the past, tells you something trivial such as, "I found $5 on the ground yesterday," you would likely be inclined to accept what he said as truth. No further inquiry would be needed, I think we can both agree that you would be justified in believing him at face value. Regardless of whether he actually did find a $5 bill, you have good reason or sufficient evidence to accept his claim as truth. In this context, the anecdotal evidence is strong enough to carry such an innocuous claim.
What if your friend said, "I won the lottery yesterday," would you be justified in taking what he said at face value in this case? Initially, maybe yes, but you might be more inclined to raise a skeptical eyebrow. You might ask him to show you the ticket, or his bank balance. But, maybe your friend simply tells you to trust him and thats the end of the conversation. Whether or not he actually won the lottery, I think we can both agree that you would not be justified to accept his claim based on the anecdotal evidence in this case. We would say that his anecdotal evidence is not strong enough to carry the heavy claim that he won the lottery and more evidence would be required to justify a belief.
So, when religions make extraordinary claims like, "God exists," or "Jesus died and was resurrected," or "when we die we're reincarnated" we would be hard pressed to accept these extraordinary claims at face value. We might say that the anecdotal evidence supporting them is not strong enough to justify a belief in them. And I argue that for most, if not all, the primary evidence for their core claims comes down to anecdotal evidence.
You might be tempted to say, "but there is hard evidence available. It's not just anecdotal when it comes to these claims." But then you have to ask questions like why does science, the most rigorous method we have for deciding whether or not we should accept evidence for a claim, not take this evidence seriously? And generally you'll find that the answer to that is that the evidence put forth to support religious claims, simply doesn't hold up against honest scientific inquiry and scrutiny. And that's why I argue that evidence put forth to support supernatural claims regarding Buddha or Jesus is on par; the general scientific consensus is that the evidence put forth simply doesn't carry the weight of such heavy claims.
@@Anonymous-de8uw Ok so essentially you're saying that it doesn't matter that there is more evidence to corroborate Jesus' life, death and resurrection than to corroborate Buddha's death because you weren't there and so, no evidence can convince you since it would have to be anecdotal? Or is it just that you discount miracles as being unprovable?
If the latter, that's why I deconverted when I went to university. But I was an atheist scientist (biology btw, with focus on ecology - hence the need to immerse myself in the natural world to seek meaning rather than the society that was so evidently out of balance with reality) and I witnessed years of miraculous signs while seeking truth before I had to admit that truth itself was communicating back to me so I have to agree that until you see a supernatural series of events and verify them, it's hard to believe. That said, it actually makes for a very satisfying context for spacetime nature rather than being at odds with science. Philosophy can only demonstrate plausibility and give someone permission to be intellectually open enough to entertain and test for supernature. Which obviously I recommend.
If the former, one of the first things I did upon witnessing what I did was review all the skeptical arguments I was so familiar with and I did find that one thing skeptics dismissed unfairly was the historical evidence corroborating the Biblical narrative, and especially Jesus. It turns out that there is more evidence than a historian would expect and it is incredibly difficult to find a good explanation for much of it if Jesus didn't really fulfil the claims. There are many named witnesses to Jesus after his death, including a good number who professional historians widely agree died because they bore witness about a man who Jewish leaders referred to as a magician when dismissing his claims to be their Messiah, and even hostile Roman witnesses to his death who say it coincided with an inexplicable darkness that wasn't an eclipse. To name a few. So I understand where you're coming from regarding miracles but the actual amount of evidence for Buddha's light thing certainly isn't on par so that's why I wondered. Having said that, I have personally seen stranger things and maybe Buddha did emit light lol.
Turek speaks of evidence.What evidence does he provide to validate the claims of Christ? Ans....only the writings of Bronze Aged authors ( authors unknown)...nothing tangible, only “ changes of heart,
Turek's only trick is that he has the ability to appear smart, he is a slick talker. Snakeoil comes to mind with this wacko.
Miracles followed Jesus. They were the glory of His presence, and proof of His sinless deity. He had no need to conjure up followers, His mission was to satisfy the perfect will of His Father in order to save mankind.
Whenever Dr. Turek brings up the believer and disciple comparison I understand the wisdom. I am a believer I always have been. But I always struggled to be a disciple. A believer knows but a disciple follows. I am ashamed of myself...
I think that's something not just a few Christians struggle with, myself included of course.
Now, 2 years later since you wrote this comment, how are you doing?
Has God done something in your life, because I believe that when there is a big enough part of us that wants to follow God, He will make it happen for us.
(Hebrews 13:20-21)
Ironic that when it comes to other religions Frank asks for evidence XD
If a miracle supposes the happening of something supernatural bringing good consequences, you have to agree there is a divine agent who orchestrates it, and that it has a sentient moral goodness behind the miraculous action, if you can't agree with that then it's not a credible miracle.
Exactly this is a very manipulative speaker. He can twist easily his words and not hold himself accountable.for the lack of facts. This is toxic as he demonized something similar to what he believes.
@@romellyarde907 again, it begs the question to what you define as a miracle. If Buddhism doesn't require a belief in God or any god, they can't call the enlightenment a miracle... to think you can find the ultimate meaning of life within your own self, is lunacy...not a miracle
@@renchyxii2925 the things that could separate when one calls something a miracle vs another event can be many times explained. Miracle seekers should investigate the situation more and may unlock the technique to perform such a task and share it with he world. I am sure paramedics brought more people back to life than these biblical saints, making it look normal in many cases.
I mean in the Bible it says that a “true prophet” can be seen by his prophecies.
His arguement could be used against him. Trash answer
How?
That is a typical answer you get when you give a reasonable argument but they didn't like it
He asked the man "What prove do you have that the ligth of budah was divine?"
That same question applies to him.
@@josue_1887 Look up the shroud of turin on google. This was the barial cloth of Jesus soaked with his blood that managed to last 2000 years. Scientists even carbon dated it. Look up Eucharistic miracles. These occurrences are real and I'll definitely keep you in my prayers
@@braydencarter2419 If other beliefs have to have indisputable proof of there miracles then why doesn't Christianity?
Many so-called Christians will do miracles in Jesus' name but Jesus will attribute these to Satan and will reject those doing these miracles.
It just shows that Satan can do miracles too.
This man has been blessed by God with wisdom!
Ignorance? Maybe.
Dishonesty? Maybe.
Wisdom? Definitely not.
Brother! I admire your biblical and common intelligence. Your middle name must be Solomon because the wisdom is obvious. Thank you for your witness and skill and patience to ask and answer hard questions with the effective and productive knowledge of our Lord, Jesus Christ. Man. That's good stuff! #blessings
Candyss Woodberry infact if you’re so proud of god why don’t you throw out all of your cosmetics and go out everyday as you naturally look. The flawless complexion is natural. It’s artificial.
Jennifer Jackson ??? Uhm, in your profile pic, it sure does look as if u have on some pretty heavy eye make up. So why come at this lady that way?? Actually why come at her this way period.
Fallon Ocean because mif she so proud of how God made her she shouldn't be watering make up.
Jennifer Jackson But she didnt mention anything about being “proud how God made her.” She thanked the speaker and commented on his wisdom. Whats your real problem? Whats wrong?
Fallon Ocean Frank turek has absolutely no intelligence or wisdom whatsoever. So yes she is saying she proud of the man made sexist abrahamic God because she believes in him.
Did he just say "evidence"?
RandomUser123 clearly those Christians you heard THAT from didn’t do research or even ask questions and look for answers.God did say that we need a way to defend.
@FrostyJack21 YT Evidence for closest to God is The Shroud of Turin, Dead Sea Scrolls, The Ark in Turkey.
But don’t worry, I myself an a Theist and I won’t condemn you. By proving God’s existence, this would mean taking Jesus’ words seriously
We must love your enemies, wether it be non believers or believers of other religions.
Never threaten, judge, or act superior.
Why weren't the words of Jesus ENOUGH for the people of the middle ages? Why were so many people killed, tortured, starved etc.. all in the name of Jesus
@KTTGHMTJWYCBLAC fair enough. But as far as I'm concerned about it, all religion is phony and fear based.
Speaking as if God were a parent, you should never have to fear an ever lasting punishment because they're upset.
You should be accepted correct?
If a sick man from India prays to altar full of his multi-gods and he is cured from cancer after treatment it was just the treatment. If a Christian prays to God before cancer treatment and is healed it is a miracle
He assumes that the gospels were written by eyewitnesses. They weren’t
Historical scholars agree that there was a Jewish teacher that might’ve went by the title “Jesus of Nazareth”.
@@fabianfollowerofchrist5299 I agree. But that doesn’t imply that any of the miraculous claims about him are actually true
@@TrainOnTheWater well besides the eyewitness testimonies of the gospels , it’s very strange that these random group of “crazy” people would go through persecution, torture, and death to teach others about Jesus. It’s not a coincidence man, even now Christianity is a very persecuted faith. Because it’s the Truth. I’m not sure if you were a former believer or not but i suggest you look into Christianity deeply.
@@fabianfollowerofchrist5299 Is it the whole truth, however?
@@chrissonofpear1384 I believe so but inevitably the choice is yours , for God has given everyone free will to seek him or to go their own way.
As a Latter-Day Saint (Mormon), I find the simplistic way Dr. Turek rejects my beliefs to be consistent with a lot of his arguments: Simplify them and throw them away to make them seem not worth looking at.. he says he could make Golden plates in his garage, but could he produce a book like the Book of Mormon from those plates? Even if you don't believe it is true, this argument is so bogus. What Dr. Turek doesn't tell you is that Joseph Smith says he saw a vision fo the Father and the Son. How's that for a miracle? if we're so happy to believe the ancient texts of the bible, should we not at least look at similar witnesses and be fair to them.. of course not, because that undermines his arguments completely. Beware those who have clever arguments that reject the true things of God. "For they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me". I'll still watch the videos as he says many interesting things but I would advise anyone reading this to filter the message and don't believe it wholesale. and by the way if there are false prohpets, they are there to confuse people so they don't see the true prophets... it's simple people, ask God what is right, That's why I'm a member of my faith. You can listen to people all day long, including people like me, but ultaimtely you need to find out for yourself without their clever words and influence.
I see your point, friend. We don't believe in all the same things and that's alright. I look at LDS, Catholics, Coptics, Baptists, Lutherans, etc to all be denominations of the same umbrella. We're all about Jesus the Son of God. That's all the common ground we need. There's no reason to simplify and discard each other.
Reading the books of the New Testament, we possibly asked ourselves more than once: *"Why 2000 years we do not see those miracles that accompanied the Сhurch of Christ in the I century, as described in the New Testament?"* Why do the so-called preachers of Christ have to prove that Jesus really existed and atheists boldly deny the historicity or divine origin of Christ? Maybe because the Сhurch of Christ has not existed for 2000 years?
The Сhurch does not exist in the form in which it is presented in the books of the New Testament, but there are Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant and other christian sects claiming to be the place of the Church, but they not have the only thing that distinguishes the divine from the human and is characteristic of just the Сhurch of Christ -the reinforcement of the word with signs, that is, miracles (Mark 16:15-20). Therefore, some researchers doubt the historicity of Christ, and some of them are not opposed to declaring him a an ordinary philosopher, teacher. But even if Jesus were an ordinary philosopher, his disciples would be ordinary followers of Jesus. And they would not dare to write about the miracles that not only Jesus, but also his disciples, could perform. In this world, the great fertility of atheism can be explained by the fact that there is no main opponent of critics of the Bible - the Church. If there were the Church in our time as described by the authors of the New Testament books, where miracles are performed, the sick are healed, where prophesied, and the dead are raised, no one would doubt the historicity of Christ. Then there would be the same controversy throughout the world as in the first century - Jesus the Son of God or the false prophet who seduces the world by miracles. As a result, we can say that the emergence and development of christian sects and atheism was the result of the fact that over the 2000 years the Сhurch of Christ did not exist.
Find *"The Mystery about the Church of Christ"* video on UA-cam. The video reveals the prophecy of the disappearance and reappearance of the Church of Christ before the End of the World. Watching this video will give hope to all who sincerely seek God and will interest those who are not too lazy to think freely. Click on my name to watch the video (The video is in Russian, but English subtitles are included).
U sayin' that miracles of other religions are not valid is kinda arrogant.
Fairly typical evangelism, I guess.
it's amazing that Frank can dismiss the miracles of other religions so easy and even say that the miracle claims of other religions pale in comparison to those reported in the bible. He evidentially hasn't read the much into the Islamic faith because it was said that Mohammed split the moon. I can’t think of a more spectacular miracle claim, yet Frank doesn’t seem to be aware of that one.
What is evident is that the standards of evidence are not applied uniformly across the board when there are debates about topics which relate to theism vs theism. Frank may state that every miracle claim should be judged on its own merits, but he has essentially already given a blanket dismissal of the claims of other religions. However, he will always give an impassioned case for the authenticity of the miracle claims in the bible.
When you consider his reasons for dismissing the other miracle claims consider the following; The Gospels are based on the conflicting accounts of 4 anonymous Authors written many years after the purported event that revolve around the life of Jesus Christ.
I agree with you. I don’t thank he is trying to prove anything to people that don’t believe in the Bible. I think he is just trying to reassure the people that do.
I wonder how much Frank is worth?🤔
@@610huskymoto That's a fair point. I mentioned the inconsistency in how standards of evidence are applied, but we can also say there is a clear difference in how a theistic hypothesis is proposed when compared to the hypothesis that may be proposed as part of a scientific experiment. When we look a God hypothesis, the presumption is essentially that the proposition is fundamentally true. In arguing the case for the God hypothesis, the fundamental goal is not to provide evidence for this claim but more rather the goal is to try and poke holes in any competing naturalistic explanations. All the evidence that most theists need is in the good book so all that is left is to focus on the competing world view.
I think Frank is smart guy and is an engaging speaker. He is confident and well drilled and certainly appears to make a convincing case for people who wouldn't be well versed in the scientific, philosophical and theological topics which underpin these debates.
That said, fundamentally much of what Franks says is some variation of a God of the Gaps argument/and or a Red Herring fallacy or its also just not reasonable to draw the conclusions he makes based on the premises he gives.
Even if one concedes that the Universe did indeed need a creator there no evidence to suggest that such a creator would be a conscious personal creator that is all knowing, all powerful and benevolent and that is specifically the God he believes in. The cause and effect argument requires special pleading because a major assumption needs to be made that the creator didn’t need a creator themselves and it completely ignores the fact that the laws of physics break down in a singularity so in that sense there is no reason to believe that we can invoke causality in way we do in the universe with defined laws of nature. Added to that we simply don’t know what preceded the Big Bang. Any suggestions to the contrary are conjecture.
Fine tuning falls over in several different ways, not least because all it proves is that the Universe wouldn’t have formed if the constants of nature had been any different. It’s still an assumption to claim that the universe must have been created specifically for life because of this apartment fine tuning. Using the same logic, you could also conclude that the Universe was fine tined for black holes because they exist and are abundant throughout the universe. If the constants underpinning the laws of nature were changed in the smallest degrees, then black holes wouldn’t have been possible. Therefore, the Universe was fine tuned for Blackholes!! The logic doesn’t stand up and that’s before we even consider that the Universe is utterly unhospitable towards life. Throughout the entire Universe we only know of one planet that can support life and even then, everything on this planet is trying to kill us. Not to mention that life evolved to suit the conditions on earth and life will only be permitted on Earth for an infinitesimal spec of the life time of the Universe.
Arguments in relation to the complexity of life requiring a designer is usually a combination of a God of the Gaps argument, drawing false analogies and completely ignoring evolution by natural selection.
I think the morality is probably the weakest of all arguments for a God because it presents a Begging the Question fallacy. A God needs to be proven to exist in order to prove that an objective morality exists and so invoking a moral argument can’t be used as evidence for the existence of God. It is circular reasoning at best.
Any arguments over Consciousness, Logic, reality and existence are not much more than Red Herrings to distract from the real argument. Even if science and/or philosophy had nothing useful to say about any of these topics this still wouldn’t be enough of a reason to invoke Divine Creation.
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I wish I could write like you. That was good! 👍
@@610huskymoto I can't really take any credit in fairness I have spent quite a bit of time listening to Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris and lately people like Matt Dillahunty and Alex O' Connor. These debates are not new and many of the points of debate have been discussed and debated for hundreds of years but advances in science, in particular, tend to open up fronts in the conversation. Its very refreshing to see well documented greater thinkers, like the guys I have mentioned, engage on these topics. I have learned a huge amount and thats why I enjoy these debates. What ever position a person takes on this, there is a huge amount to learn if one is open to doing so.
I haven’t read the the Quran, what was the point of splitting the moon? Who did it help?
"Frank Turek... lying for God" would be a better title for these videos. Cherry picking, misrepresenting, and flat out lying is just about all he does. He lies about other religions, science, reality, his religion... just about anything. Its rather sad, as is the number of people that believe him because they don't take 5 minutes to check his claims.
So what claim did he make in this video that is a lie?
@@Chiller31916 the first one in this video... _the new religion in america is the religion of sex_ (talking about transgender and other related topics). This is an example of him using dishonest wording to lie about what a topic is and poison the well before even beginning to try to talk about it properly... not to mention twisting the definition and use of the word "religion" into muddy pointlessness.
First one on the topic of the video... _"When you evaluate them_ (miracles) _on a case-by-case basis, they pale in comparison to Christianity"_ This is a flat out lie because many of the supposed miracles of other religions are _EXACTLY_ the same as ones from Christianity, and even the "greatest" miracle of Christianity (the resurrection of Christ) is mirrored and even surpassed by many supposed miracles of many other faiths that do the same sort of thing or do it even bigger. He then decides to not even try to compare apples to apples and cherry-picks topics in some religions that he things he can attack, some of which he completely misrepresents.
He also misrepresents Islam in regards to miracles by presenting half-truths. The only sources that I could find which say what he says about Muhammad and miracles are Christian apologetic sources that are trying to discredit Islam. The closest thing to what he presents that I found from an actual Islamic source was Muhammad claiming that the miracles were not done by him, but by Allah, and that he was just a messenger or target of them. Twist that around and ignore what is actually written in the Qur'an in other places and you get close to what he is presenting here.
He also claims that the gospels were eye-witness accounts even though they were written down by unknown authors at least a full generation after the events were supposed to have taken place.
... this is only about 2 min in... I don't think I want to waste my time listening to the rest and going through just for someone to counter with the inevitable nuh-uh. (yes, I know its coming)
... it is funny though when he starts with _"what evidence do you have for that"_ while talking about the claims of other religions. OH THE IRONY!
The funny this is about the comparison to Buddha and Jesus is... Buddha consistently denied his deity. Jesus did not. Maybe there was some miraculous light after he died, so what? Doesn't prove he's a god.
The problem with Turek’s response is that he takes the Bible at face value when it says there were eye-witnesses to the resurrection. Also, I don’t think he ever mentions that we don’t really know who wrote the 4 gospels; also, we don’t have good reason to attribute them to The disciples of Matthew, Mark, Luke & John.
People ignore the voice of reason
@@ffmmain8673 The irony is that apologists like Turek seemingly are able to apply critical thinking and skepticism when evaluating the supernatural/miracle claims of other religions. But all that goes out the window when they are asked to defend the supernatural/miracle claims of their religion.
Younan Yaqoob Wow, let me guess....you think you’re Christian, right? Lol
If you read the entire Bible all the way through.. you’d know that it is written by one ☝🏾
@@JaneDoe-lw6eh Written by one what?
Jesus bless everyone 🙏🏽
I am mormon and you missed completely the right point when you said you could make golden plates in your garage. The golden plates is not the miracle clearly, the miracle is THE CONTENT.
Exactly. These people have no idea what Mormonism is.
He also doesn't mention the Jospeh Smith's vision or any of the other number of miracles recorded by early LDS pioneers. Honestly, I think God can perform miracles for all his children no matter what religion they are in. How do any of us actually know that a miracle occurred upon the death of Buddha? We don't. Or that Christ fed 5,000. It's about faith.
I like a lot of what this guy says in other videos but I dont agree with this one.
Just like he has no evidence to prove or disprove anything you are choosing to believe blindly in some guy from the 1800s walking through the woods saying he has all the answers. Would you belive it if Joseph Smith walked up to you today, as a stranger, and said I've got all the answers trust me? I dont think you would, you would call him a heretic and not listen. Am I wrong?
the content, the lack of archeological evidence, comparing with biblical scripture and the changing of christian doctrine for organizational benefit disprove mormonism. there may be some mormons that are christians but mormonism is clearly not christian but is a cultic warping of it.
@@jaydenbecker2757 just like he said in this video you put to test the things he says. You don’t believe anything anyone says until you research what he is saying pray about it and ask for Gods spirit to enlighten you to know if it is true. My guess is you have not done this about the prophet JS otherwise you would be a Latter Day Saint Christian. I would recommend you read the Book of Mormon and look up the foot notes at the bottom of the pages that references the Bible and compare to see how close it actually matches up with the Bible I think you would be surprised. There is only one church and it was established in the 1800s if you are not apart of it you are apart of the church of the devil period. Get a Book of Mormon read it get a testimony and be baptized.
You know, Christians are Athiests too, they are Athiests to any religion other than Christianity.
I studied all the worlds religions. Christianity and Buddhism are very similar and how they teach morality, except Buddhism has no God. That again begs the question “who decides what is moral?”
So, basically his argument was that our miracles>other miracles therefore we are right.
Neelzen exactly because our miracles are done in the name of Jesus
Many people leave religions because of lack of “real” evidence and not to avoid accountability from an unproven god/gods
Louis Cario No that’s not why it’s because people have harden their hearts or I’ve had something bad to them happen with in the church. They use lack of evidence as the last straw there’s plenty of evidence
It's not lack of evidence, it is lack of being satisfied, the flesh body rules the mind. The parable of the sower and the seed is a good example of explanation. The seed fell on several kinds of ground that was not conducive to growing adequate roots to sustain life. We have to learn how to overcome the flesh body by getting rid of the rocks and tilling the hard soil so the roots will allow the planting to flourish. The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak.
We are special nation acces miracle directly from god our surrounding we nation who use intelect,science,councious etc..compare to previous nation.. miracle suppose strenghten faith..nation eg children of isreal witness and faced or receive bless from GOD yet kill prophet disobey them..different between beliver..either they grateful or not..creation all share similar traits..CREATED.. human didnt create their own self..we just utilize what god create.
A Christian asking for evidence of a miracle is the biggest laugh I've had all day
Lmfao
There's no eye witness for the resurrection of Jesus. We don't even know the identity of who wrote the gospels. We only have their first names.