Funnily enough it's an old model - the Vapour. It was nice, light and simple, but has bt's subsequently been discontinued; however, the good news is that it's also been superseded by the Spire/Spire Tech, which actually look, feel and handle a lot better - plus they're lighter too.
I’m winter - really? If so, you’re either cutting corners in terms of what you take or your pack is a whole lot larger. There’s a reason you don’t see people out with 25L packs in winter and the reason is because they’re much too small to fit everything you need in them.
@@ukclimbingofficial Thanks for the reply. I own a Blue Ice Firefly 25l pack which I use for ice climbing/ mixed climbing in winter. I don´t think I am cutting cornes because I even carry my avalanche safety equpiment (light avi-shovel, probe) for the approach. In my rucksack I fit 1,5l tea in Nalgene bottles, light down jacket, spare warm gloves, dry shirt, emergency bivi bag, headtorch, 1.Aidkit, 2 energybars, cookies and a bit of trailmix, suncream, avalanche gear and my climbing gear (harness, crampons, half the rack of screws, slings, runners). On the outside of the rucksack I have my helmet, ice-tools, one dubble rope and my hardshell jacket. Yes It is not super comfortable to carry an overloaded pack on the approach but I like a light and compact pack for the actual route. Greetings from Germany
Your comment makes more sense now, knowing you're not based in the UK, as I think you can get away with carrying less within a more stable alpine climate. Scotland is far less predictable, so you'll tend to have to carry a whole lot more, simply because if you don't - the chances are you're going to get very, very cold. For instance, you'd have to replace that light down jacket with a medium to heavyweight synthetic jacket, which takes up a lot of space. You'll also be taking a lot more than just a single pair of spare gloves, with many opting for somewhere between 3-5 pairs. We're blessed and cursed with a very unpredictable climate, so things tend to get pretty wet pretty quickly, and the weather doesn't always play ball!!
I don't think it's good advice to put a first aid kit at the very bottom of the bag that should be easily accessible, nor do I think it's good advice to put an axe down your back as it could cause serious damage if you fall on your back. Also I'd take 1 litre of water and a whistle and tissues. Sweets and chocolates aren't ideal because they cause an energy spike rather than sustained energy that can be counted on.
It's something that you very infrequently use and even when you do, it's not hard to access - even if it is at the bottom of your bag. With regards to where you keep your axe, this is pretty regular practise amongst both guides and instructors. If the terrain is technical, or the ground that slippery, you'd realistically have the axe in hand. When it comes to nutrition we could potentially do a whole other series; however, what we would say is that there's still a place for comfort food on the mountain.
I’ve been a paramedic for over 20 years. There are very very few emergency situations that require immediate action, and it is often preferable to take a slow, calm and considered approach when rendering aid. Additionally, with the exception of a tourniquet for an exsanguinating arterial haemorrhage, I can’t think of a single incident that would require the first aid kit to be on hand immediately - and even in that instance, direct pressure is always attempted in the first instance so there’s still plenty of time to be accessing the first aid kit. Reality is, most first aid kits are woefully inadequate for genuine life threatening situations. And as such, there’s really no need to fret about where it’s placed in the bag. As for the axe, it is utterly standard practice to deposit it in all manner of convenient places, including down the back. I can only assume you’ve not experienced much in the way of winter mountain skills. Lastly, In over 30 years of climbing and exploring the mountains of many many countries around the world, I am yet to meet anyone who doesn’t take some form of comfort food, sweets or chocolate when ascending. Is that all they take? Of course not. But do we worry that we’ll have a slight increase in available glucose for a time? Nope - because our physiology is way more complex than you seem to understand, and we are perfectly capable of regulating the slight addition of some sugar during activity. Cal, you really ought to get out more and start enjoying the advice of some seasoned professionals.
I put some chocky bar treats with my emergency shelter, separate from my day munchies.
That's a great idea!
What does everyone else take out? We're interested to hear what is in your pack!
Nice list, I take a couple of nice beers as well ha
You're more hardcore than us...
Great! Really nice, concise and comprehensive guide. Thanks @ukclimbingofficial
Is that a dmm ice axe? A new model?
Funnily enough it's an old model - the Vapour. It was nice, light and simple, but has bt's subsequently been discontinued; however, the good news is that it's also been superseded by the Spire/Spire Tech, which actually look, feel and handle a lot better - plus they're lighter too.
Such a big Pack... I can fit all in my 25l Rucksack...
I’m winter - really? If so, you’re either cutting corners in terms of what you take or your pack is a whole lot larger. There’s a reason you don’t see people out with 25L packs in winter and the reason is because they’re much too small to fit everything you need in them.
@@ukclimbingofficial Thanks for the reply. I own a Blue Ice Firefly 25l pack which I use for ice climbing/ mixed climbing in winter. I don´t think I am cutting cornes because I even carry my avalanche safety equpiment (light avi-shovel, probe) for the approach. In my rucksack I fit 1,5l tea in Nalgene bottles, light down jacket, spare warm gloves, dry shirt, emergency bivi bag, headtorch, 1.Aidkit, 2 energybars, cookies and a bit of trailmix, suncream, avalanche gear and my climbing gear (harness, crampons, half the rack of screws, slings, runners).
On the outside of the rucksack I have my helmet, ice-tools, one dubble rope and my hardshell jacket.
Yes It is not super comfortable to carry an overloaded pack on the approach but I like a light and compact pack for the actual route. Greetings from Germany
Your comment makes more sense now, knowing you're not based in the UK, as I think you can get away with carrying less within a more stable alpine climate. Scotland is far less predictable, so you'll tend to have to carry a whole lot more, simply because if you don't - the chances are you're going to get very, very cold.
For instance, you'd have to replace that light down jacket with a medium to heavyweight synthetic jacket, which takes up a lot of space. You'll also be taking a lot more than just a single pair of spare gloves, with many opting for somewhere between 3-5 pairs.
We're blessed and cursed with a very unpredictable climate, so things tend to get pretty wet pretty quickly, and the weather doesn't always play ball!!
@@ukclimbingofficial 👍 Yes you are right, I have also expericed the harsh scottish climate and renember soaking wet clothes
I don't think it's good advice to put a first aid kit at the very bottom of the bag that should be easily accessible, nor do I think it's good advice to put an axe down your back as it could cause serious damage if you fall on your back. Also I'd take 1 litre of water and a whistle and tissues. Sweets and chocolates aren't ideal because they cause an energy spike rather than sustained energy that can be counted on.
It's something that you very infrequently use and even when you do, it's not hard to access - even if it is at the bottom of your bag. With regards to where you keep your axe, this is pretty regular practise amongst both guides and instructors. If the terrain is technical, or the ground that slippery, you'd realistically have the axe in hand. When it comes to nutrition we could potentially do a whole other series; however, what we would say is that there's still a place for comfort food on the mountain.
I’ve been a paramedic for over 20 years. There are very very few emergency situations that require immediate action, and it is often preferable to take a slow, calm and considered approach when rendering aid. Additionally, with the exception of a tourniquet for an exsanguinating arterial haemorrhage, I can’t think of a single incident that would require the first aid kit to be on hand immediately - and even in that instance, direct pressure is always attempted in the first instance so there’s still plenty of time to be accessing the first aid kit. Reality is, most first aid kits are woefully inadequate for genuine life threatening situations. And as such, there’s really no need to fret about where it’s placed in the bag.
As for the axe, it is utterly standard practice to deposit it in all manner of convenient places, including down the back. I can only assume you’ve not experienced much in the way of winter mountain skills.
Lastly, In over 30 years of climbing and exploring the mountains of many many countries around the world, I am yet to meet anyone who doesn’t take some form of comfort food, sweets or chocolate when ascending. Is that all they take? Of course not. But do we worry that we’ll have a slight increase in available glucose for a time? Nope - because our physiology is way more complex than you seem to understand, and we are perfectly capable of regulating the slight addition of some sugar during activity. Cal, you really ought to get out more and start enjoying the advice of some seasoned professionals.
@@pete3816 - your post has just made our day. We're glad it's not just us...