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  • @BlackBeltBarrister
    @BlackBeltBarrister  2 роки тому +160

    A BRAVE victim of mobile phone theft retrieved it from the thief when the police refused to assist.
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    • @BlackBeltBarrister
      @BlackBeltBarrister  2 роки тому +11

      @WalterSobchak Very good 😉

    • @iggle6448
      @iggle6448 2 роки тому +1

      Oh please do get on your high horse BBB! My knowledge leads me to strongly suspect that the police largely dislike victims of crime nowadays. The less they bother with these non-politicised usual crimes, the more emboldened offenders become. We have become a lawless society for most usual intents and purposes.

    • @tkpeters
      @tkpeters 2 роки тому +5

      What is your view on Adam White?

    • @Gmjd64
      @Gmjd64 2 роки тому +3

      @@tkpetersit was well out of order !

    • @dmitribovski1292
      @dmitribovski1292 2 роки тому +17

      Police were to tracking publishers of mean tweets they didn't have the time to deal with crime.

  • @gearupgifts
    @gearupgifts 2 роки тому +1311

    Sometimes the only way to fight crime, is with crime. Recently read a story about a woman who had her top-of-the-range £2.5k bike stolen. She went to the police. They gave her a crime number, at which point she knew they were not going to help her so she went looking online for a 2nd hand bike (basically looking for her own bike for sale) and found it. She went round posing as a buyer and asked if she could have a quick go on it, leaving her handbag at the sellers house. Seller agreed to this so she simply got on her own bike and rode it away, leaving her handbag which was full of crap plus a note telling the seller she was taking her bike back!

    • @chriscurtain1816
      @chriscurtain1816 2 роки тому +123

      Love it! Except that's recovering her own property, not a crime. Love from Mr Picky x

    • @andyfield7397
      @andyfield7397 2 роки тому +60

      Delicous

    • @JB_inks
      @JB_inks 2 роки тому +31

      @D2M5 How can she have?

    • @kapouszek7349
      @kapouszek7349 2 роки тому +24

      Excellent !

    • @paulscottrobson
      @paulscottrobson 2 роки тому +18

      It didn't used to be like this. When I did teacher training 30 odd years ago I went on a trip to the local courts, which was a full trial prosecution of just this - the person had found their property and had them arrested and prosecuted. The trial was most entertaining as it looked like the thief wasn't aware of this and the barrister tied them in knots.

  • @petelovesbevsills
    @petelovesbevsills 2 роки тому +122

    They NEVER are short of staff or resources if anybody or a business calls them to say there's a man with a camera outside their place of work and when an auditor photographs or films police stations. Then they come out in swarms sometimes up to 4 cars and 9 policemen (all evidenced here on Y/T) but, report a REAL crime and they will do absolutely nothing. This has to change before we spiral downwards and more.

    • @sternoclavicularjoin
      @sternoclavicularjoin 2 роки тому +2

      Perhaps the auditors should give it a rest…just trying to get views on UA-cam..

    • @martynanstis1620
      @martynanstis1620 2 роки тому +8

      @@sternoclavicularjointhey cannot and will not until the police are fully conversant on photography, privacy, drone and terrorism laws

  • @sarahdutton1291
    @sarahdutton1291 2 роки тому +44

    A fair few years ago my nieces phone was stolen whilst out with a group of friends. She knew the lads( abt 19yrs old at time) who took it but being the scumbags that they are just gave everyone a load of abuse and threats and left with the phone. Next day when my 16yr veteran husband found out he decided to go knock on their door( one had a council bungalow but a bunch of around 5 lived there) and had a nice conversation with them to which not only did they return the phone but they decided she deserved a little compensation for all the inconvenience which I thought was good of them. Well that's how my husband described it to me what happened.

    • @oldbag3043
      @oldbag3043 2 роки тому +7

      He sounds like someone I would get on with very well 👍

  • @jimschuler8830
    @jimschuler8830 2 роки тому +197

    0:22 And if you ever find yourself on a jury where the defendant did bring a weapon with him to recover his stolen property, make sure you acquit.

    • @KopperNeoman
      @KopperNeoman 2 роки тому +4

      Jury nullification is tyranny - but it is not jury nullification if no crime was committed: even if unlawful and unconstitutional legislation disagrees.

    • @jimschuler8830
      @jimschuler8830 2 роки тому +14

      @@KopperNeoman In court there are always two things on trial: the defendant and the law. In a country of tens or hundreds of millions, where you get to cast maybe a single, solitary vote a year that is somehow supposed to magically give you a voice on hundreds of nuanced issues, being on a jury is the only practical say the ordinary man will have on the law.

    • @JammyGit
      @JammyGit 2 роки тому +9

      I've done jury service myself, and believe me, you never want to be tried by a jury. I won't go into details of the case I sat on, but quite a few of my fellow jurors wanted to originally give the accused guilty just because they didn't like the look of him. I found that to be awful at the time, back in the 90s, and I bet it's even worse nowadays because there was no internet at the time, and I'm pretty certain that a lot of modern day jurors will be swayed by what either they or their friends and family read online. You are no longer innocent until proven guilty 😒

    • @jaybeames9789
      @jaybeames9789 2 роки тому +4

      @@JammyGit I agree with you on this issue. I too did jury service in the 90s and there were a couple of people within the 12 of us who had obviously had no kind of importance ever in their lives, but with their new found feeling of authority and responsibility just wanted to act judge, jury and executioner.
      Certainly opened my eyes to be very wary of trial by jury.

    • @stevesmith7530
      @stevesmith7530 2 роки тому

      @@JammyGit I understand that entirely. I used to be able to walk into a courtroom, look at the jury and realise I was wasting my time testifying, it was going to be not guilty all round. Just seeing how the jurors dressed and looked at people in the court as enough.

  • @paulpapadelta7994
    @paulpapadelta7994 2 роки тому +870

    We must take the law into our own hands because the police have washed their hands of the law

    • @carolramsey6287
      @carolramsey6287 2 роки тому +4

      Absolutely. We should form Community Justice Action Committees to undertake vigilante action. The police are only interested if they think they might get to shoot someone. The courts won't punish druggy thieves, wifebeaters etc. It is not uncommon to see criminals with hundreds of previous convictions still not being sent to prison. If those who we pay to.protect us won't we must protect ourselves.

    • @iFunktion
      @iFunktion 2 роки тому +3

      @@Carl-hs420a I think it's worse than that, I think the Government are turning a blind eye to corruption and accountability. As a result a lot of people are now too scared to go to the Police for help.

    • @Ralnon
      @Ralnon 2 роки тому

      And this is the most dangerous of mindsets that a society can fall into. At the point the Police at seen as nothing but a stick of the government rather than a servant of the people: at the point it’s clear that the law is for the entitled and rich, that the average person is in fact paying a ‘tax’ to criminal elements = the mob takes over, and vigilante actions are so often subverted by malicious intent, stupidity and just being plain wrong. Nobody wants to live in this kind of society.

    • @andrewfernie3528
      @andrewfernie3528 2 роки тому +30

      Police? What's that?

    • @hypergolic8468
      @hypergolic8468 2 роки тому +24

      @@andrewfernie3528 They provide welfare and kind words to naughty people. I have some very old books that say they "had the commission of the Monarch in the form of a warrant to uphold the law", but they are very old books.

  • @ninelaivz4334
    @ninelaivz4334 2 роки тому +44

    It's not the new norm my friend. It's been this way for decades.
    Back in the eights two very expensive bottle of cognac were stolen from my dad's shop. The thief went bragging to his friend who knew and liked my dad and told him who the bottles were stolen by and where the person lived. The police came, I was there and I'll never forget this, they told my dad, we can't go disturbing the people looking for bottles of alcohol. The scoundrel lived literally across the road from my dad's shop - address known.
    Since that day, my estimation of the police had gone down to zero and it's stayed at zero for four decades.

    • @davidjones8651
      @davidjones8651 2 роки тому +1

      Jails are full

    • @ninelaivz4334
      @ninelaivz4334 2 роки тому +3

      @@davidjones8651 he didn't need jail my friend. Fine the bastard ten times the value of what he stole so that it isn't worth his while stealing.

    • @davidjones8651
      @davidjones8651 2 роки тому +4

      @@ninelaivz4334 he's on the dole mate....hasn't got a pot to piss in!

    • @airstripone2419
      @airstripone2419 Рік тому +1

      Zero? You overestimate them.

  • @stephengraham1153
    @stephengraham1153 2 роки тому +176

    If thieves believe that there are no consequences to stealing property the situation will only get much, much worse.

    • @henrytwigger2245
      @henrytwigger2245 2 роки тому

      The government is the biggest thief, by a long way. If you think how much you've had stolen from you by burglars, car thieves, etc. and compare that to the taxes you've paid, to stay out of jail, which is the most ?

    • @TitianTopsyTurvy
      @TitianTopsyTurvy 2 роки тому +6

      That is EXACTLY what's happened. And how do we know that the Police aren't helping some criminals explicitly by letting them know what they will not investigate?!

    • @minkgin3370
      @minkgin3370 2 роки тому +4

      It’s just laziness. Why bother doing a job you’re paid to do when you can sit in the cop-shop drinking tea. Giving you a Crime number is the norm these days - that’s all they do.

    • @stephengraham1153
      @stephengraham1153 2 роки тому

      @@minkgin3370 There are reports from several sources that since 2010 between 20,000 and 23,700 police jobs have been cut. I would imagine the impact on the moral of those remaining and the increased workload would also have made it more difficult for lesser (although serious) crimes to be investigated properly, if at all.

    • @fredmercury1314
      @fredmercury1314 2 роки тому +3

      That's basically the reason behind ALL crime.

  • @dogstar5572
    @dogstar5572 2 роки тому +230

    Hey dude. I was once in a waiting room within lewisham hospital. There was a heroin addict demanding drugs and swinging a metal trash bin at people. A couple of staff were injured. I left my chair and put him into a stranglehold. The police arrived 20 mins later (awkward), and arrested me. The addict walked away. The addict didn’t press charges, so I was absolved. Very gutting for me, but I would do the same again, (preferably without being arrested). Great show, thanks.

    • @saraheverardsrapers3910
      @saraheverardsrapers3910 2 роки тому +1

      Lewisham has Europe largest police station. It also has extremely high crime rates. Lewisham police are the most corrupt bunch of subhuman thugs in the entire Met - they are animals.

    • @glennbartlett416
      @glennbartlett416 2 роки тому +27

      How long ago did this happen! Not only is that wrongful arrest to you, assault to you, and false imprisonment to you but that is aidding and abetting and that can that brings proceedinv under section 26 of the criminal courts and justice act, which will carry a prison sentence of upto 12 years for the police officers.

    • @saraheverardsrapers3910
      @saraheverardsrapers3910 2 роки тому +2

      @@glennbartlett416 Glenn - I think you are on the wrong planet - here on Earth the police kidnap, rape, murder, lie, steal from the bodies they have just murdered, photograph and share pictures of murdered victims, nickname each other approvingly "the rapist", and so on.
      If you think anyone cares about this, you haven't been paying attention.

    • @mgramsdale
      @mgramsdale 2 роки тому +9

      @@glennbartlett416 Unfortunately because it is too much trouble. If they can arrest someone at the scene then there is no warrant required. However, no police person wants to submit a request to the court to do their job as it demands extra effort.

    • @markrainford1219
      @markrainford1219 2 роки тому

      Just knock him out and walk away next time.

  • @Lulusnotreadyforthis
    @Lulusnotreadyforthis 2 роки тому +14

    Lost all my faith in the police 10 years ago when I was alone in my flat with my newborn baby and my drunken neighbour started trying to break in. I called 999 terrified for me and my child, explaining my husband was working and I was alone with a baby and vulnerable. *I was shouted at by the police for not calling my drunken neighbour an ambulance instead of calling them.* 30 minutes later, an ambulance arrived for my neighbour but no police to check on the welfare of myself and my newborn. Good for anyone who takes care of themselves without our crap police.

  • @Donice09
    @Donice09 2 роки тому +477

    Love how they can’t come out to arrest a thief, but they can come round when the TV licence want to enter your property.

    • @jimbobjimbob8275
      @jimbobjimbob8275 2 роки тому +39

      Which is basically assisting a thief!

    • @peterz7752
      @peterz7752 2 роки тому +17

      Or enforce feelings but not the law or even protect your rigths

    • @Gloops01
      @Gloops01 2 роки тому +20

      The victim should have said they'd been misgendered; they'd have sent the Flying Squad.

    • @gteaz
      @gteaz 2 роки тому +13

      @Steve N 👍It's easier to send six officers to a law abiding citizen, instead of two officer to a crime.

    • @longjonwhite
      @longjonwhite 2 роки тому +6

      Or 5 of them, wearing haz-mat suits and using 3 vehicles and a dog can spend 24 hours removing 30 tiny little harmless green plants from a "cannabis factory".

  • @warrickmiller7651
    @warrickmiller7651 2 роки тому +51

    It's always easier to arrest somone for "hate speech" online then it is to actually pursue real criminals

    • @philflip1963
      @philflip1963 2 роки тому

      The filth are there primarily to oppress the general populace for their governmental masters! (Mercenary thugs).

  • @marktwivey4427
    @marktwivey4427 2 роки тому +14

    I have worked in retail/ security for over 30 years and worked with the police closely and the stark difference in the response now in 2022 is deplorable. This has gone from an officer turning up after a crime and taking CCTV and a statement to now if the theft is not over £500 they simply don’t want to know.

  • @motovateme
    @motovateme 2 роки тому +167

    A similar scenario happened when my £3500 mountain bike was stolen. I tracked it to the address, which was a block of flats, contacted the police supplying all the information and sat outside the block of flats, refusing to move until they showed up, or I could recover my property. 72 hours later I had to give up for food and sleep. Saw the frame only for sale, three months later, reported this too, never had any Police attendance or saw them take any action, during any of it.

    • @carolramsey6287
      @carolramsey6287 2 роки тому +16

      You should have visited before the postman with a can of petrol, a box of matches and a funnel. You wouldn't have got your bike back but they wouldn't be doing it again.

    • @brendanm6921
      @brendanm6921 2 роки тому +6

      ​@@carolramsey6287 it's a block of flats. How could they possibly have known which residents were the culprits? You're suggesting potentially terrorising completely innocent families.

    • @bromion5123
      @bromion5123 2 роки тому +3

      Hope u had insurance.

    • @billwild7396
      @billwild7396 2 роки тому

      The police are not here to help the public,they are a private goverment army

    • @pifko87
      @pifko87 2 роки тому +3

      @Paul Hitchens right wing daily mail reader spotted

  • @initialyze
    @initialyze 2 роки тому +272

    It's an old joke but it still stands true (and can be altered to include topical content):
    I called the police at 2am to tell them someone was breaking into my shed. They said they had no-one available. I called them back and lied, saying not to worry, I had shot the intruder. Five minutes later I had a police van, two police cars, a motorbike, the police helicopter, eight officers and an armed response unit at my house. I explained that the intruder wasn't there anymore and he had run off. The sergeant looked around and said "I thought you said you had shot him." To which I replied, "I thought you said you had no-one available." Boom-boom... I'll get my coat. 🙄

    • @repentbeforeitstoolate..8239
      @repentbeforeitstoolate..8239 2 роки тому +4

      😄 DEFUND THE POLICE 🗣️.😠

    • @irenemax3574
      @irenemax3574 2 роки тому +17

      Don't get your coat! Tell us another one, please!

    • @vodaredhill1704
      @vodaredhill1704 2 роки тому +57

      @@irenemax3574 Did you hear the one about the policeman who arrested a real criminal ? No neither did I ! 🤣🤣🤣

    • @nidgem7171
      @nidgem7171 2 роки тому +26

      It NOT always a joke. About a decade ago an old, retired farmer in Lincolnshire (or maybe Norfolk) was at his wits end because 'Travellers' from a nearby site repeatedly robbed his farm and several times his farm house.
      The Police did sometimes attend but never fast enough to catch anyone .
      (In fairness they probably knew the Courts would do nothing, the 'Travellers' would move and it would fizzle out as usual in such cases).
      Finally the farmer had had enough. Two 'Young Adult Travellers' brok into his home.
      *He shot one with his shotgun, injuring not killing him*
      He claimed self defence - they were coming at him after all.
      Prosecution argued it was not self defence because the pellets hit the guy in the back.
      The farmer said 'Only because he turned away at the last minute when he saw I had my shotgun'.
      But the Farmer was conviced, jailed and will never be allowed another shotgun licence.
      The 'Traveller Community' swore vengenge upon him when he was released (and trashed his farm repeatedly whilst he was inside.
      They have not been 'brought to book' for any of this.
      And the farmer has no means of defence.
      *The morals of the story include: When there is no Police support you are on your own*
      Further morals are implicit in what happened but you can work those out for yourself 🤔

    • @Farweasel
      @Farweasel 2 роки тому +1

      @@nidgem7171 The Police, NHS & other services depend on the Governments we elect.
      Keep voting for the self-styled 'mainstream parties'
      And we will keep on getting the same old same old.
      So with much, probably most, organsied crime being imported into the UK ........... *Join the dots*

  • @Mulletmanalive
    @Mulletmanalive 2 роки тому +16

    We were literally TOLD to do this by a police representative from one of the forces.
    They’re too busy sitting on their backsides and threatening people over Twitter.

  • @noelbowman8052
    @noelbowman8052 2 роки тому +137

    As a former officer i completely agree with you. I think that their integrity is compromised by them giving an excuse(lie) saying they could not get a warrant. To state that lack of resources were the reason is more likely the case and we (taxpayers/victims) are entitiled to know this. It makes me angry to hear of such lack of response to such an investigative opportunity

    • @life_happens_reviews
      @life_happens_reviews 2 роки тому +9

      @noelbowman8052 too busy looking for hurty words afraid of the not so peaceful ones attacking within the uk or indeed of being called racist so tired of the cops preferring to sit looking for hurty words so shame on the cops in uk and ireland

    • @stevenking2946
      @stevenking2946 2 роки тому +1

      But the technology isn't always accurate, it will show you the vicinity, not the exact address, my own phone shows it as 5 doors away from where i actually am...tech savy know this, officers on the ground know this, thieves know this, obtaining a warrant is a massive invasion into innocent peoples lives, based on this inaccurate technology.

    • @PORRRIDGE_GUN
      @PORRRIDGE_GUN 2 роки тому +4

      Absolutely. Applying monetary values to whether or not you investigate a crime protects the rich, but not the poorer victims of crime. I always looked at it differently. My major consideration was: is this crime progressible? Can I arrest criminals, recover property and secure convictions? The value should not be the deciding factor.

    • @843thebear
      @843thebear 2 роки тому +2

      As an ex police officer you should know better. Phone tracking info isn't accurate enough to be precise, it just gives a general location, even though the pin will be dropped on a house, it isn't accurate.. You should know this, so why say that they should be able to get a warrant? Magistrates wouldn't issue a warrant based purely on phone tracking information.

    • @the_royal_drop_short.
      @the_royal_drop_short. 2 роки тому

      @@843thebear How accurate do you believe it to be?

  • @awreetmeowd
    @awreetmeowd 2 роки тому +114

    "And what do you expect us to do?" was the reply I got 30 years ago, nice to see that the police are still consistent.

    • @notmenotme614
      @notmenotme614 2 роки тому +6

      What do you expect us to do?
      At least make some effort.

    • @peterz7752
      @peterz7752 2 роки тому +3

      This made me giggle

    • @dcocz3908
      @dcocz3908 2 роки тому +5

      didicoy tried to nick the fuel from my car on the drive, failed as had loud big toothed dog just waiting for something to chew on. anyhow that was like 2000'ish and so i told the police, they came back saying they would send around forensics to take prints. i was like, well they never got anything and i closed the fuel cap now with my hand. fast forward 20odd years, got burgled, what did they say? oh, ok, here is your crime no. sorry we are to busy to come out. police today arnt worth even talking to

    • @cklennie1
      @cklennie1 2 роки тому

      @@dcocz3908 you nailed it bud im ex CPO and it's all went to shit ,,we all see it there other agendas and more interested in the .oney as performance related pay ,,some had a 25000 jeep nicked 9 month later came back for a DNA Swab to eliminate ,,thing is it's already on file ,, incompetent idiots ,,a quick radio check would have sorted it ,,just useless ,,I'll never phone I'll del with it with .my own law .and A team ,,as they'll be too busy getting a Macdonald's FFS

    • @huudielbo728
      @huudielbo728 2 роки тому +1

      I got that "its your fault for living there"

  • @voivod6871
    @voivod6871 2 роки тому +11

    Same thing happened to someone just down the road from me. He had his M140i stolen from his driveway but he tracked it and reported it to the police.The police told him they didn't have the man power to help him and that he should at his own risk recover it himself which along with his brother and a mate he did without any incident. A few months later a tragic event happened only a few meters from his house, my daughter who lives nearly oppisite watched it unfold. At about lunch time a car pulled up a man got out and collapsed..Within a few minutes paramedics arrived and started working on the man.Over the period of the next half hour or so 2 more ambulances and 6 police cars rocked up and proceeded to shut the road to all traffic. Not long after that the patient was put in an ambulance and taken away at this point the poor dudes car was parked safely next to the curb so no problem to anyone.. However 4 hours later when i walked my dog down to my daughters house there were still 2 police cars and 4 policemen there the road was still closed and some sought of crime scene guy taking photos in the dark. i asked what had happened thinking maybe the poor fellow had been shoot or something and one of the cops told me the guy had a heart attack and was probably dead before they even took him to the hospital. So i asked what it was that they were investigating and he replied that they were just follewing procedure. just thought it was ironic that they sank so many man hours and resources into a incident that they knew wasn't a crime right from the get go right outside of the house of a crime victim they point blank refused to help.

    • @siras2
      @siras2 Рік тому +1

      It's all about ticking boxes - the correct procedure must be followed whether or not it's pointless!.

    • @blutey
      @blutey Рік тому

      Probably on overtime for the extra shift.

    • @Treblaine
      @Treblaine 7 місяців тому

      They clearly needed to put on a big show after months of slacking off.
      One big theatrical production like that can be an excuse for mismanagement for remainder of the year.

  • @TiberiusWallace
    @TiberiusWallace 2 роки тому +194

    The claim that the police are too overstretched to investigate crimes even when you've solved them for them comes dramatically unstuck when you know they've got the manpower to continually move homeless people on and standing near a police station with a camera will get you surrounded by no less than four of them.

    • @madgebishop5409
      @madgebishop5409 2 роки тому +22

      or saying a naughty word on twitter or facebook and they'll be knocking your door within hours

    • @esecallum
      @esecallum 2 роки тому +10

      OVERPAID/UNDERWORKED

    • @bushcraftone7240
      @bushcraftone7240 2 роки тому

      or arresting innocent folk for saving lives and bring false charges to cps then go by name of Regina then claim no evidence ti bring to the table to ye presiding magistrate judge and fail to honiur [GDPR] and give back ye property ye police stole
      thereby police are in fact a criminal organisation and be guilty by association and accessories and abettors act 1861

    • @chrisreed5463
      @chrisreed5463 2 роки тому +8

      As a manager, when a department has asked for more resources I have always had one question. What are you doing with the resources you've already got?

    • @repentbeforeitstoolate..8239
      @repentbeforeitstoolate..8239 2 роки тому +3

      @@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 .😡 Liar's and hypocrites. No respect for them anymore . and would NEVER ever help them again .😑

  • @lizardinparadise
    @lizardinparadise 2 роки тому +52

    So the UK police have ample resources to investigate online "hate crimes" for social media comments, but can't investigate real crimes due to lack of funds. I think it's time to re-evaluate their role in a fair and just society. Keep up the good fight BBB.From Surfers Paradise, Australia

    • @bluecardholder
      @bluecardholder 2 роки тому

      Why do they always seem to go around in pairs?

    • @pokeround
      @pokeround 2 роки тому

      @@bluecardholder Because they're tits.

    • @goodyeoman4534
      @goodyeoman4534 2 роки тому +4

      They're glorified social workers now. They go to loads of "mental health" callouts and domestics - incidents where crime has not necessarily been committed but where they have written into their policies that they are bound to attend. They also enjoy going to RTCs as they are more exciting, and they don't have to do any tricky investigations. As for burglaries, child abuse, drug dealing? Not interested.

  • @merseamoto
    @merseamoto 2 роки тому +4

    Completely agree with you. The police force in question should be absolutely disgusted with themselves.
    Maybe they should be named and shamed.

  • @Cdr_Mansfield_Cumming
    @Cdr_Mansfield_Cumming 2 роки тому +39

    25+ years in the police. Street Robbery unit for five years. We used to pursue every report. When they first started tracking, it was manor from heaven. An easy arrest that usually uncovered a horde of stolen goods that we started would return to the victim.
    Then the rot set in. It came from all sides. The Home Office issued new guidance, the College of Policing issued a new diktat; senior management issued new targeting, and Magistrates passed far more lenient sentences. We end up where we are today-mayhem and the feeling that criminals get away with it.
    The blame lies strictly with the government. They could tighten up so many laws and policies. I know that certain families in my town have multi-generations of criminals. I know that a kid who never sees the police at school to do a talk and lacks that moral influence of why stealing (and violence) is wrong will see them start with petty theft, moving up to more serious and severe crimes. I know that because I have been in the system for decades and see it. When you talk to kids when first arrested, they are frightened and promise anything to be released from the cells. The courts then pass a nothing sentence and fail to hold the parents responsible. That’s the difference between a 15-year-old doing their first crime today and one doing it in 1984. Of course, London is a little different, as many of the gangs have been imported. The criminals who used to plague Barcelona in the ’90s and Paris in the ’00s are in the UK today.
    Governments fail time and time again to do anything about it.

    • @mgramsdale
      @mgramsdale 2 роки тому +2

      I wish this wasn't true but a family member who is a Met DS says much the same. Coupled with friends in social services who see generations (on file) of the same family claiming and infringing day after day. The system is weak and abused every day, we all suffer as a result

    • @FFM0594
      @FFM0594 2 роки тому +2

      I think you mean manna.

  • @mikewatson361
    @mikewatson361 2 роки тому +179

    If you stand outside any Police Station with a camera in your hand, within 5 minutes you are surrounded by a dozen police officers, this is what is so frustrating, these people are not even breaking any laws but are subjected to an hours worth of questions, while real crimes go unpunished 🤔

    • @pete975
      @pete975 2 роки тому

      Loitering is the offense and clout chasing is the social faux pas

    • @mrDUDANATOR
      @mrDUDANATOR 2 роки тому +17

      ​@@pete975 where do you live? China. There is no offense for loitering in the UK.

    • @pussypostlethwaitsaeronaut8503
      @pussypostlethwaitsaeronaut8503 2 роки тому +7

      ​@@pete975 It's offence (ce), not 'offense' (se). There's no 's' in offence unless you're American. Please use and preserve our English language and avoid adopting unnecessary Americanisms. xx

    • @pussypostlethwaitsaeronaut8503
      @pussypostlethwaitsaeronaut8503 2 роки тому +5

      @@mrDUDANATOR There's no such word as 'offense' in the UK: it's offence (ce), not 'offense' (se). There's no 's' in offence despite what your American spellchecker tells you. Please use and preserve our English language and avoid adopting unnecessary Americanisms. xx

    • @gruffrossi5420
      @gruffrossi5420 2 роки тому

      wellcome to england would rather nick me for my weed but dont nick some one with proff and if they used force THE OINKS WOULD AREST THEM FOR GETTING THERE PHONE BACK this is a big red flag its getting worse out there ive been puled 3 times on my bike so far this mounth every time had the you smell of weed this happens more than you think they killed 2 black lads last year broke 3 my ribs but i broke a cops fingers i had to drop case or id get charged got a record SO YER KNOW WHO JURY WILL BELIVE NOY ME RIDR A BIG BIKKE BEARD LONG HAIR im 60 had this all my life i know how bad it is they havent a clur

  • @petermyerson9722
    @petermyerson9722 2 роки тому +6

    It really is so very sad that our society is falling apart

  • @mechsgtpuma938
    @mechsgtpuma938 2 роки тому +139

    This story reminds me of this weeks 24hrs in police custody. Where a guy chases the two guys who broke into his home. He ended up hitting the bike with his car. He ended up getting 22 months inside and the burglars got a two year suspended sentence probation and unpaid work. The judge said he should not of taken the law into his own hands. Im not condoning his actions but it doesn't seem fair when the burglars don't even get prison time as repeat ofenders.

    • @MalinDixon
      @MalinDixon 2 роки тому +1

      The point there was that his the home-owner's response was way above proportionate, and the two thieves were badly injured.

    • @anthonylulham3473
      @anthonylulham3473 2 роки тому +62

      @@MalinDixon sounds like they deserve it

    • @dalegribble9101
      @dalegribble9101 2 роки тому +1

      @@MalinDixon Not disproportionate, you steal from someone you should be prepared to pay with your life that's why we need second amendment rights. Maybe next time they wont steal. I dont even think it's disproportionate to go find the guys mum and give her a quick slap for raising the thief.

    • @lechatel
      @lechatel 2 роки тому +1

      @@MalinDixon No. The point is that the law isn't interested in protecting citizens. That is a myth. The law is only interested in protecting itself and the system which runs it.

    • @mechsgtpuma938
      @mechsgtpuma938 2 роки тому +7

      Totally agree it was an over reaction. But you have to wonder what a career has to do get prison time as both guys had extensive records going back to childhood not to mention while on bail for the burglary they we picked up in a stolen vehicle. Its a shame people feel the need to take the law into there own hands. My neibour was burgled about a month ago and infairness the police were there in 5 minutes and after doing there stuff said we'll be back in a few days to take statements we never heard from them again about it this was the third burglary in 6 months in my street. Unfortunately police forces do not seem to have enough officers to cover areas properly and seen to be move reactive in there policing as I don't remember tje last time i saw a bobby on patrol just in a way to possibly put someone off commiting a crime. I've now got two cctv cameras to hopefully make someone think twice but i know it won't stop someone who is determined.
      Then you run i to another problem where do you put them as the prisons appear full at the moment with prisoners being held at police stations according to the news this week.

  • @advertslaxxor
    @advertslaxxor 2 роки тому +30

    Should've said they sent "hurtful" messages on social media. Police would be there in minutes.

  • @justiceforall8574
    @justiceforall8574 2 роки тому +2

    Police service is not under-funded,Just pop to the local drive through when yesterday we observed 5 yes FIVE patrol cars full of police officers eating fast food & chatting to each other.

  • @howie8582
    @howie8582 2 роки тому +41

    I'm afraid this behaviour by the police has been going on for years. In 1988 I received a call from my bank asking me if I had my credit card, when I said I did they asked me confirm that a number of transactions were mine, which of course they weren't. My bank credited me with the amount but asked me to report the matter to the police. I went to Holborn police station to report a fraud exceeding £13,000. I spoke to a CID officer who wouldn't give his name, wouldn't make a report and told me that I had to find out how the fraud was committed and by whom otherwise I would be liable to the bank for money. As a partner in a local law firm I knew this to be rubbish. Whilst there are excellent officers I think we have to face it that there have always been police officers who will, if given the opportunity, shirk their duty. BTW I do enjoy your channel, thanks

    • @ForgottenMan2009
      @ForgottenMan2009 2 роки тому +2

      They evade fraud cases like a dog at bathtime!

  • @adrianlewis7977
    @adrianlewis7977 2 роки тому +54

    This subject is very close to home for me. I had approximately £5000 worth of camera equipment stollen. I knew who the thief was and where he had taken my equipment and when demanding it back failed i contacted the police who visited his address and simply asked him if he had anything that didn't belong to him to which of course he replied no. The police then left without any further action. I complained again and the thief was invited to attend the police station. He did and he was once more asked the same question to which he again replied no. That was the 'investigation over.
    To make matters worse, I contacted the police complaints commission about the issue and all I got in return was a letter informing me that if I did nit stop misusing the service, that action would be taken against me.
    What kind of message is this sending to criminals? Do what you like. Steal what you like. The police simply aren't interested.
    To further anger me, When I reported the theft to my insurers they found a tiny clause in the terms and conditions of the policy stating that as I knew who the thief was they would not pay out in respect of my loss. The company concerned was Covea who I would strongly suggest everyone avoids like the plague. They also do car insurance and forced my late partner to wait more than six months for her car to be repaired after a learner driver hit her during his test and it was only when i said I was going to visit them in person that they finally acted.

    • @PORRRIDGE_GUN
      @PORRRIDGE_GUN 2 роки тому +13

      I had £8k worth of camera equipment stolen. I know who did it. A bloke I bought a fridge from, and he delivered it to me. I got it all replaced new for old (which was good because it was all old to begin with)
      The Thief had a shop in Thornton Heath High Street. That shop burnt down a couple of months later. Karma. And a cast iron alibi.😁

    • @itwork6810
      @itwork6810 2 роки тому +13

      What the hell!! This is one of the worse storied I have heard. Action against you for crying out loud! That's awful. Insurance companied are basically legal scammers in my opinion.

    • @welshgit
      @welshgit 2 роки тому +7

      I don't blame you for letting it go after they threatened to take action against you, but I'd love to have seen how they'd have handled that in court!

    • @adrianlewis799
      @adrianlewis799 2 роки тому +6

      @@itwork6810 No argument there. One of the things we accept nowadays is the ever present excess charge. Why? We pay an expensive premium each year for cover and the second we make a claim they want us to pay them!

    • @ninelaivz4334
      @ninelaivz4334 2 роки тому +4

      Man, I'm really sorry to hear that. You got screwed over from every angle by everyone involved.

  • @nigellapaul6787
    @nigellapaul6787 2 роки тому +1

    I've got stores like this you would not believe would not actually believe.

  • @scholagladiatoria
    @scholagladiatoria 2 роки тому +24

    It's absolutely insane, but also absolutely normal in the UK now. I recently informed the Police by phone that a neighbour's house alarm was going off and they essentially said they didn't care unless I could physically see a burglary in progress. So, concerned for my neighbour's property and prepared to do whatever I could, and staying on the phone to the operator, I took a torch and went to have a look at the property as best I could. I could not see any evidence of a break in luckily, but they essentially told me to go and investigate myself, and that they had no intention of sending anyone. The alarm continued for several hours.

    • @repentbeforeitstoolate..8239
      @repentbeforeitstoolate..8239 2 роки тому +6

      Your a good neighbor. 🙂♥️

    • @tlangdon12
      @tlangdon12 2 роки тому +1

      This is standard practice, and I think it is correct that the police don't turn out for every alarm that goes off. There are too many false alarms. We have an alarm go off in our area every week. It's at a number of different houses, and I have been out to look when the alarm isn't silenced by the homeowner.

    • @stainless1175able
      @stainless1175able 2 роки тому +2

      You should have told them that you witnessed someone burning an ISIS flag. They'd of come running.

    • @cmd2709
      @cmd2709 2 роки тому

      So moral of the story, police were correct not too turn out for a false alarm 😂

    • @tlangdon12
      @tlangdon12 2 роки тому

      Alarms are supposed to automatically shut off after 20 minutes. If they don’t, you should complain to the home owner, and the council if they don’t get it fixed.

  • @CaptainParalytic
    @CaptainParalytic 2 роки тому +39

    As we well know from all the auditing channels, if they wanted to get the police to actually come out, the trick is to not actually report a crime, just tell them that there's a man with a camera. That seems to do it every time!

  • @richarddixon7276
    @richarddixon7276 2 роки тому

    Thanks BBB, - I felt I had to make a comment to help this really go Viral .

  • @elvyn123
    @elvyn123 2 роки тому +39

    A sad state of affairs we are in now. Thank you for sharing this what I would call "gross misconduct" particularly when police were told the victims were going to retrieve their phone.

    • @giggity4670
      @giggity4670 2 роки тому +1

      The way the police treat the people thought out covid is a sign they are not here to serve anyone but themselves and high crime gangs are above the law so many albanian gangs now running the drug trade and getting away with it as cops are scared to touch them. But little old you or me do 1 small thing or need the police to help you get pushed aside or arrested over the smallest thing. Police have lost all trust from the public and i would not bank on them ever helping me out if i need them if i was was in trouble.

  • @ix-Xafra
    @ix-Xafra 2 роки тому +26

    Justice must be seen to be done to maintain a civil society.

    • @stevesmith7530
      @stevesmith7530 2 роки тому +3

      Justice is expensive, and requires society to play its part.

    • @ix-Xafra
      @ix-Xafra 2 роки тому +2

      @@stevesmith7530 absolutely!

    • @TitianTopsyTurvy
      @TitianTopsyTurvy 2 роки тому +1

      Our Government are so bent, it's hard to expect everyone to follow laws blindly when the people in charge are so flagrantly thieving from tax payers. And when I say tax payers, I mean ACTUAL tax payers, not the friends of Government that have found ways to move money out of our country without any tax being paid!

    • @thisisnotforalltosee1875
      @thisisnotforalltosee1875 2 роки тому

      Britain is no longer a civil society....thanks to the dinghy-wallahs...

  • @avacadman2155
    @avacadman2155 2 роки тому +1

    This is the exact reason the crime rate has escalated in recent years, lack of police numbers also a vast lack of any involvement from police officers. Now, when it comes to traffic violations, totally different matter! Because of course they are in cars and it is an easy pull. Here in Portsmouth you never see police, we cheered a few weeks ago having actually seen a police car!! We now have just one police station in Portsmouth as all the others shut down. Car crime is at its highest! Burglary too. These criminals are blatant in their crimes as they know the police will not turn up. We are the second most densely occupied city after London. Rarely people now walk our streets at night. A lawless city.

  • @jamesmartin532
    @jamesmartin532 2 роки тому +98

    Totally agree, yet another example of appalling action by the Police, there is a marked level of apathy that is deeply ingrained within the Police service.
    As a retired Police officer who served in the 80’s and 90’s I am disgusted by what the service has become.
    The victim should sue the Chief Constable for neglect of duty.

  • @stephenhill8790
    @stephenhill8790 2 роки тому +17

    I lived in a small town in mid Wales, a lad had his motorbike stolen by a known perp, police said they couldn't do anything as there was no everdense, the local motorcycle club got involved, the bike was returned quickly, the perp was seen walking around looking like he'd had a few rounds with Mike Tyson. crime in the area suddenly dropped when the local bike club started to have a friendly chat with some of the local crims, police started going on about vigilantes. But were still not doing anything about the known criminals.

  • @amrikw
    @amrikw 2 роки тому

    Well done for highlighting the issue and sharing. Totally agree with you. We do not have powers or under a duty to act as the police can who have a duty to do once reported. If reported, police do not follow up and feedback on the report. We should be vigilant but not end up doing their job. So good work as always. Proactive work reduces crime in the first place.

  • @joeasthope2064
    @joeasthope2064 2 роки тому +120

    I'm not surprised the police did nothing
    I had one stolen from Asda the police wouldn't even come out to the store to get the CCTV footage
    I got my phone back I'll say no more

    • @BigDavie2000
      @BigDavie2000 2 роки тому +9

      If they stole a loaf of bread from Asda at the same time the police will respond, track them down and bring charges.

    • @mikeyyoyo6464
      @mikeyyoyo6464 2 роки тому +2

      Good you got your phone back ✊, talking about Asda I saw 3 cop cars blue lighting into a retail park, pulled up at marks n sparks like they’re was a bank robbery in progress & what was it? The instore security had caught a shoplifter 🤦‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @joeasthope2064
      @joeasthope2064 2 роки тому +2

      @@mikeyyoyo6464 wow sounds right for the police the person who took my phone was not a nice person at all but people new of him say no more lol

    • @goodyeoman4534
      @goodyeoman4534 2 роки тому +1

      I called them to report packs of young foreign men openly smoking weed in a park where women and children go. They didn't give a toss. Yes, I'd have done the same if the druggies were English.

    • @joeasthope2064
      @joeasthope2064 2 роки тому +1

      @@goodyeoman4534 because there frightened of them

  • @leslie5646
    @leslie5646 2 роки тому +17

    It's a disgrace. The police needs to urgently reprioritize what they do. These are crimes that affect people badly and when they have the evidence, their job is mostly done.
    I agree with you entirely. Thank you for raising this issue.

  • @andrewbazeley7274
    @andrewbazeley7274 2 роки тому +1

    A friend of mine had a neighbour some years ago who had two foreigners break into their home and badly beat them to the ground with metal bars and the police did not turn out, it’s teach a stage now where we have to protect ourselves because no one else will

  • @scrappingsharica
    @scrappingsharica 2 роки тому +35

    My son had his car stolen, his keys was on the table (shared house) and apparently some uninvited people came round and took them. He found out who they was and where the car was. He called the police and told them. The police told him to go get it himself, He took friends and did just that.. I still think it's quite dangerous to retrieve something yourself, you never know if the thief will be Armed.

    • @peachypie8018
      @peachypie8018 2 роки тому +6

      Good for him.

    • @TitianTopsyTurvy
      @TitianTopsyTurvy 2 роки тому +2

      So the Police expect ordinary citizens to do the police work. 1) I wonder if your son had injured the thief (in the process of retrieving his property) he could have been prosecuted by the EVER SO HELPFUL police? 2) If you're disabled (as I am) and unable to deal with the thieves ourselves, we should just accept people can take whatever they want from us because the Police aren't interested.
      Makes me wonder if it's such a good idea to use disabled parking spaces, are we just signalling to nearby thieves that we're easy pickings?

    • @philflip1963
      @philflip1963 2 роки тому +1

      They must have had something more important to do like victimizing some people for being Black, Asian, Homosexual, an Eco Protestor, etc. etc.

    • @huudielbo728
      @huudielbo728 2 роки тому

      I read on here of woman who was told where her (stolen) cas was parked & used. Police not interested so she followed it, finally the thief stopped and came towards her with a Crowbar, she left quickly. These thieves are often known to the police and treat each other as being in the same trade.

    • @philflip1963
      @philflip1963 2 роки тому

      @Dougal Douglas Yeah man!
      static.wikia.nocookie.net/the-magic-roundabout/images/8/8a/Dougal.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20171224043006

  • @chrishamilton2527
    @chrishamilton2527 2 роки тому +24

    Excellent video. Thank you. It’s shocking how poorly the authorities acted.

  • @Jim_Bexley_speed
    @Jim_Bexley_speed 2 роки тому +1

    My mum's house was burgled while she was dying in hospital. The police refused to even attend. It costs money to catch thieves, the police prefer to target drivers because it makes money, it's easy and it's great for stats. Even though the UK is statistically one of the safest places to drive on the planet

  • @bayesianXYZ
    @bayesianXYZ 2 роки тому +100

    A friend went through all the work of becoming a detective, wanting to help people. When he started his job, he was shut down by his superiors for making arrests. He quit. If the police have become feckless and lazy, there is little that can be done.

    • @cmd2709
      @cmd2709 2 роки тому +1

      No he wasn’t!

    • @bayesianXYZ
      @bayesianXYZ 2 роки тому +8

      @@cmd2709 Sorry: true story. On one occasion, he ran down a theif and was reprimanded for wasting his time. Evidently, since there was no assault involved, it was to be overlooked.

    • @roncooper6302
      @roncooper6302 2 роки тому +1

      There is. Stop paying them, starting at the top.

    • @edwinturner1149
      @edwinturner1149 2 роки тому +5

      time for vigilantism,stuff the police,there is a sector of society that administer there own laws,why don’t we

    • @xRepoUKx
      @xRepoUKx 2 роки тому +1

      @@roncooper6302 es, that will really solve the crime problem. Doh...

  • @Bob-tq2jv
    @Bob-tq2jv 2 роки тому +17

    Really good post and sums up why petty crime is rampant. Be careful out there people

  • @paultaylor7082
    @paultaylor7082 2 роки тому

    Excellent post. We still have fewer police officers than in 2010, despite an increase in UK population since then.

  • @permissiontoshoot5036
    @permissiontoshoot5036 2 роки тому +116

    To busy Policing Twitter and painting rainbows on the side of Police cars. Just tell them someone with a camera is filming - they will be there in 2 minutes.

    • @jfilm7466
      @jfilm7466 2 роки тому

      All the Money used on "agendas" could pay for real coppers.

    • @RossTheNinja
      @RossTheNinja 2 роки тому +10

      And you're a minority

    • @chriscurtain1816
      @chriscurtain1816 2 роки тому +12

      And someone used the wrong pronoun.

    • @AnalogueInTheUK
      @AnalogueInTheUK 2 роки тому

      Very true-Tell the Police that you are a tranny and they'll be there in seconds, due to their 'woke' agenda.

  • @garybowman4913
    @garybowman4913 2 роки тому +17

    Sadly, there are many examples, on UA-cam, of multiple police officers turning up to someone doing something dangerous like legally doing photography, admittedly some of these photographers are out to be provocative, it still demonstrates a strange attitude

  • @lulabellegnostic8402
    @lulabellegnostic8402 2 роки тому +1

    Public services in this country exist to look after themselves, do the minimal work and claim a fat pension. Police, doctors,nurses, civil servants, they’re all at it.

  • @mattblackledge9068
    @mattblackledge9068 2 роки тому +58

    In early October I had a gentleman produced a revolver in a meeting, before proceeding to point it at me and my colleague. The police were called and wouldn't attend "for fear of their officer's safety". Instead we had to evacuate the office and make our own way to the police station to be interviewed. All of my interactions with the police both personally and professionally have been appalling.

    • @julielevinge266
      @julielevinge266 2 роки тому

      That sounds about right unfortunately!!
      I used to be the key holder for the chemist I worked in so had to attend at night if the alarm went off, police would wait outside building for me to go in & switch alarm off & check their was no intruders!!

    • @queenannesrevenge3770
      @queenannesrevenge3770 2 роки тому

      That's what happens when your country hates the idea of bearing arms and self defense so much that not even the COPS have guns.
      It's like the British have a throbbing hate boner for personal liberty. Wants big daddy government to handle everything then gets BEWILDERED when daddy govvy can't help. 🤣

    • @mattblackledge9068
      @mattblackledge9068 2 роки тому

      @@queenannesrevenge3770 society is different here. Check out when our last school shooting was, then judge.

    • @bikerboy3k
      @bikerboy3k 2 роки тому

      @@mattblackledge9068 that's because guns are not as available, now check the amount of knife and acid attacks from a country with 30 million households compared to the USA, you absolute buffoon.

    • @aaronwalderslade
      @aaronwalderslade 2 роки тому +1

      I had four people loosing boats off their moorings including my own boat which I was on alone. One of the excuses the police gave for not attending, when they rang me back ten hours later, was that they had to consider their own safety too.

  • @RIC0H720p
    @RIC0H720p 2 роки тому +110

    The person that had their phone stolen will now go to prison for 20 years for being a vigilante.

    • @chriscurtain1816
      @chriscurtain1816 2 роки тому +18

      Of course the original ethos was that the public are the police, and the police are the public. The only difference is that one is paid to do the job full time. If the police don't have the resources to police, then I don't see why the public shouldn't do the job for them. Or let's say help them.

    • @mikehipperson
      @mikehipperson 2 роки тому +4

      @@chriscurtain1816 Or pay for the police from the public purse and council tax precept!

    • @paulscottrobson
      @paulscottrobson 2 роки тому

      @@chriscurtain1816 Whenever the public sector says it doesn't have the resources it's lying its backside off.

    • @quillo2747
      @quillo2747 2 роки тому

      @@mikehipperson how else are the jack boot thugs of the state going to do their job policing mean words on twitter without robbing us via taxes first

    • @Thurgosh_OG
      @Thurgosh_OG 2 роки тому +2

      They only recovered their property, following advice from the police to knock on the door, so they were not a vigilante.

  • @1953streeky
    @1953streeky 2 роки тому

    Good man holding the Police to account the UK is not totally sunk yet with men like you around 👍

  • @patriottothecore6215
    @patriottothecore6215 2 роки тому +29

    Similar thing happened to my daughter. Her house was burgled and laptop stolen. She tracked it on line and told plod where it was. They were not interested. Funnily enough it was in one of those “no go” areas. Had they gone there, I have no doubt a lot of other stolen stuff would have been recovered.

    • @OmniscientWarrior
      @OmniscientWarrior 2 роки тому +8

      But the gov says the no go areas doesn't real.
      But on that note, if you can know for certain exactly where the laptop is, go to retrieve it but have done packaged ham slices with you in a bag, threaten them and let them see the lable with opening the package and throwing on them if they don't return the laptop. But also do have many other people with you. Do try to remain peaceful and don't just use the meat unless they come to cause harm.

    • @TenFalconsMusic
      @TenFalconsMusic 2 роки тому +8

      By "no go areas" do you mean London?
      That would be accurate, as I haven't seen a plod on the beat here in weeks.
      Probably too busy browsing nefarious content on internet to be bothered doing their jobs.

    • @lozziel9662
      @lozziel9662 2 роки тому +3

      @@TenFalconsMusic or queueing for free coffees

    • @juliefreeborn5906
      @juliefreeborn5906 2 роки тому +1

      @@OmniscientWarrior Nice thought - but very dangerous. A man was jailed for nailing some rashers of bacon to a mosque door and subsequently died in prison. Was he murdered? I don't know for sure.

    • @melanierhianna
      @melanierhianna 2 роки тому +2

      @@OmniscientWarrior oh look a gammon, talking about gammon.

  • @dh4521
    @dh4521 2 роки тому +42

    The police seem to preoccupied with soft targets such as minor traffic infringements and persecution of photographers.
    Good vlog!

    • @johnb2632
      @johnb2632 2 роки тому +1

      I love your analogy, sir.
      That's how gang members operate, go for the easy kills.

    • @reddragon4482
      @reddragon4482 2 роки тому

      or "hate crime" rubbish for disagreeing with people online.

  • @dougusher3756
    @dougusher3756 Рік тому

    I stand with you 🎉🎉🎉

  • @ianm4633
    @ianm4633 2 роки тому +14

    Similar thing happened to a friend of mine involving a motor bike, the bike was stolen from the rear of his property and the Police were informed. The next day one of his friends spotted the bike on the road and followed it to an address, the rider placed the bike in the rear garden of the property. The Police were informed and did nothing, after waiting for a week and contacting the Police a number of times my friend decided to retrieve the bike himself. He arrived at the property with a number of other people and after a heated argument with the thief the bike was recovered. My friend had only returned home by a matter of minutes when up turns two Police cars and plod immediately arrested him! He was later released without charge but what a contrast in Police response.

    • @macduff1964a
      @macduff1964a 2 роки тому

      “Heated Argument” = clobbering seven bells out of the perpetrator

  • @barneyrubble1964
    @barneyrubble1964 2 роки тому +27

    I had something similar to this years ago when a credit card cloned. Whoever did the cloning then went on a spending spree on the Argos Website to the tune of about £2,000. The credit card company alerted me to the unusual transaction and refunded the money which was great for me. What surprised me was that the Argos purchase had a delivery address. The credit card company however told me they just refund the money and did not want to follow up at the address the goods were sent. So rather than stop the cloning, they would rather pay back the money than find the gang. Had they followed up it is likely others had their cards cloned and tens of thousands of pounds in stolen goods would have been recovered as I could not have been the only person who got their card cloned. This is why these gangs survive. Being caught is the biggest initial deterrent but if those who have the power to do so do not act, it just encourages the gangs even more. The only people who end up paying is us as legitimate customers with higher fees.

    • @Farweasel
      @Farweasel 2 роки тому

      That the Card Companies would rather simply write off card fraud & theft yesterday is why there's far more of it today and there will be even more tomorrow.

  • @xRepoUKx
    @xRepoUKx 2 роки тому +1

    Totally agree - had a similar situation (damage not theft) and the police's reponse was "we're not sending someone out in the middle of the night". Great...

  • @whateversunpopular1338
    @whateversunpopular1338 2 роки тому +16

    That episode of 24 Hours in Police Custody the other night was a real eye opener of how the law works for the law abiding and the criminal.

    • @VeritasAbsoluta
      @VeritasAbsoluta 2 роки тому +4

      I didn't see it, but I did see that Bedfordshire Police tweeted about it and every single comment in response was critical of them.

    • @joshua6244
      @joshua6244 2 роки тому +5

      Bedfordshire Police: the burglars' friend.

    • @lifetothepoweroffood6106
      @lifetothepoweroffood6106 2 роки тому +1

      Somebody sent me go fund link for the victim - it was going well.

  • @margaretgreenwood4243
    @margaretgreenwood4243 2 роки тому +10

    My now long retired MP here in Leeds once told me after I complained about lack of police action in my area (this was some twenty years ago) that, and I paraphrase him, In twenty years time there will be gated communities and that, basically, the rest of us would have to look after ourselves. I was amazed at this statement because How Did He Know This, and secondly, it seemed rather strange that he should tell me this. Only conclusion I can make is that this state of affairs has been planned decades in advance as presumably are other events

    • @Thurgosh_OG
      @Thurgosh_OG 2 роки тому +3

      There has been 'gated' communities in this country for a lot longer than 20 years, so they were probably just following the logical progression, from knowledge of the times.

    • @PORRRIDGE_GUN
      @PORRRIDGE_GUN 2 роки тому +3

      @@Thurgosh_OG Overall, crime is still low and many crime stats are showing a downward trend. But we don't know what is going unreported. It's not the level of crime that is worrying, it the fact that nobody wants to investigate it and we are becoming desensitised to it.

    • @leevancleef451
      @leevancleef451 2 роки тому

      @@PORRRIDGE_GUN or maybe the British don't record them properly.. Like greater Manchester did & other police forces.. 4 British cities make the top 10 ten on the European city crime index 2022..

  • @Tiz147
    @Tiz147 2 роки тому +1

    They should have reported them for writing something offensive on social media.

  • @powerballminep67
    @powerballminep67 2 роки тому +38

    I'm surprised the café even let the victim see the CCTV, let alone download it for them. Most premises wouldn't have done that, stating that under GDPR regs, they would only provide the CCTV to the police investigating the incident. Good on the manager for his or her independent mind.

    • @madgebishop5409
      @madgebishop5409 2 роки тому +15

      dont worrry the police will probably arrest the cafe owner for breaching the theifs privacy and human rights

    • @rhettdunmore
      @rhettdunmore 2 роки тому +1

      @@madgebishop5409 ring ring oh hello im a thief i would like to make a complaint........

    • @Majere613
      @Majere613 2 роки тому +1

      As I understand it you have the right to any footage featuring you personally, though the premises can ask for a small fee for providing it. IIRC when the law came in Mark Thomas offered a prize for the first person to use other people's CCTV to film an entire movie, I don't know if anyone claimed it.

    • @powerballminep67
      @powerballminep67 2 роки тому

      @@Majere613 yes that’s true but there’s a lot of red tape with a Subject Access Request required. It would be handled by a solicitor, faces have to be blurred etc causing an inevitable delay. If an alleged criminal offence, the police would be have to be provided with it first, as it’s evidential.

    • @andrewbrian7659
      @andrewbrian7659 2 роки тому

      Was coming here to say exactly this. Most of us know how useless many police officers are these days, the shocking breach of GDPR was what I found most surprising in this video.

  • @mrobo9037
    @mrobo9037 2 роки тому +10

    I went to prison for protecting my family, my wife and children were almost killed, its a long story but it's true, I don't regret a second of what I did and would do it again, the police would NOT HELP ME, I sorted it myself and will NEVER REGRET IT!

    • @repentbeforeitstoolate..8239
      @repentbeforeitstoolate..8239 2 роки тому

      Terrible. And these traitors are paid by the British taxpayers.😡

    • @saraheverardsrapers3910
      @saraheverardsrapers3910 2 роки тому

      good for you, more people should do this

    • @Interknetz
      @Interknetz 2 роки тому +2

      It's disappointing that the victim is seemingly punished more than the perpetrator. This is a huge part in why a lot aren't happy with police.

  • @michaelnewman5
    @michaelnewman5 2 роки тому +1

    The police seem to have time to harass people who say thing that might have hurty feelings . I'm totally disgusted with this we now live in a third world country

  • @UncleBenjs
    @UncleBenjs 2 роки тому +28

    I heard someone screaming and bangs coming from a flat, sounded like someone was being attacked and badly beaten. I called the police to let them know, and they asked if I could go and knock on the flat door to ask if everyone is OK and to go look to see if someone is being attacked before they drive out to investigate... lol...

    • @maurabrown6229
      @maurabrown6229 2 роки тому +4

      Sounds about right

    • @marionthomas5947
      @marionthomas5947 2 роки тому +5

      Did you tell them, you charge £100 per hour for you service 😉

    • @reachandler3655
      @reachandler3655 2 роки тому +5

      So they wanted you to endanger your own life?!

    • @PORRRIDGE_GUN
      @PORRRIDGE_GUN 2 роки тому +1

      I came out early one morning to go to work to find bloody footprints, pools of blood and a bloody carving knife on the car park floor. It looked like someone had been stabbed and then drove away, as there were bloody footprints on the ground about where a car driver or passenger side door would be. It was starting to rain too.
      I phoned Croydon Police (utterly useless division) who asked me if I could just pick up the knife carefully and put it in a paper bag and they would come round when they felt like it. Fuck off I said. This is a crime scene, and there is about 2 to 3 litres of blood on the ground and it's starting to rain. You need to get round here and preserve the crime scene. But there is no victim reported they said. I suggested they phone local A&E hospitals, as they might find them there. But I'm not fucking touching it!
      When I came back from work, the obligatory plastic tent was up and police tape cordon all over. A victim was found at CUH A&E, but he was a Polish immigrant and didn't want to talk to the police or accuse anyone.

    • @UncleBenjs
      @UncleBenjs 2 роки тому

      @@PORRRIDGE_GUN Damn, that's quite the thing to stumble upon

  • @JKDREALFIGHTER
    @JKDREALFIGHTER 2 роки тому +16

    My wife was assaulted (allegedly) earlier this year by 2 people while she was working out, the police couldn't be less bothered. There were 2 CCTV cameras less than 100 meters away. The police didn't even bother to check them, however, they were more interested in threatening me with "public order" when I turned up despite me being calm and videoing the entire event. I had to directly threaten the police back, and then as if by magic" public order" wasn't mentioned again. The police then gave the "alleged" attackers an escort for their own saftey.

    • @saraheverardsrapers3910
      @saraheverardsrapers3910 2 роки тому +4

      It's in their interests to threaten everyone who calls them out with public order offences - it means people are less likely to call them, so they can sit on their fat arses and claim crime is down.

  • @grahammatthews5835
    @grahammatthews5835 2 роки тому +6

    I'm reminded of the time some years ago when my credit card was cloned. The first I knew of it was when I got an invoice for goods addressed to me at my home address but with a delivery address in North London. The item - of about £750 in value - was due to be delivered in two days' time as the delivery date was on the invoice.
    I reported this to the credit card company who immediately put a stop on my card but by this time there was almost £2k's worth of purchases on it.
    Since I had an invoice for goods with a delivery date and address on it I phoned Norfolk Police (my local police) and explained that if someone called at the North London address on the day in question they were 99.9% likely to find the goods and the criminal. Oh no, they said, they couldn't do that but they could pass an intel report on to the Met. It was clear to me that by the time all of this had happened the delivery date would have passed and any action would be fruitless.
    So I said, how's about I get a baseball bat out of my garage, drive down to London and sort it myself? Oh no sir, you can't do that, they said, you would be arrested for being in possession of an offensive weapon. Obviously, I wasn't going to do that but I said it to make a point, which was that they would be quite happy to arrest me for engaging in a bit of summary justice and at least trying to retrieve stolen goods but they couldn't be arsed to do the job themselves.
    I didn't hear any more from the police. The credit card company took the hit on the fraudulent purchases and I got a new credit card with a different account number. Quite clearly, nothing has changed.

  • @madgebishop5409
    @madgebishop5409 2 роки тому +67

    after watching what happened to Adam White on "24 hours in police custody", i have literally no faith in the CPS or the police anymore

    • @engineeredlifeform
      @engineeredlifeform 2 роки тому

      The guy that nearly murdered two people who hadn't burgled his house? He was an *sshole.

    • @Gmjd64
      @Gmjd64 2 роки тому +4

      Your not the only one ! The fact they got stopped again on the way to burglary i thought he would get off ! They want to get real jobs instead of Robbing hard working people i know what i would’ve done to them both !🤬

    • @quillo2747
      @quillo2747 2 роки тому +7

      @@engineeredlifeform the two men were trying to burgal his house and were breaking in with a crowbar and bolt cutters and were riding a stolen bike in the first place and were both prosecuted. The police do not attend burglaries anymore so when a man is forced to act on his own he gets slammed with 22 months in jail

    • @banana9106
      @banana9106 2 роки тому

      I saw that and completely agree. Decent bloke, no criminal record, married, has kids, works hard for a living, is open and honest in interview, gets 2 years inside. Scumbag thieves, have a rap sheet as long as your arm, go equipped to steal off the guy, answer no comment to anything that might in the slightest incriminate them, get off with a slap on the wrist and they are now trying to claim £1 million in compensation off the guy. Couldn't make it up. Everything that is wrong with the police, courts and judges, right there.
      What bothered me was that the poor bloke did not appear to have any good representation. In fact, the evidence from the police body cam did not show the police give the guy a caution, so it is arguable that anything the guy said before the caution was issued should have been inadmissible as evidence.

    • @madgebishop5409
      @madgebishop5409 2 роки тому +8

      @@engineeredlifeform two men that were convicted of attempted burglary of the mans house...you are obviously related to one of the two men.

  • @pabloblue999
    @pabloblue999 2 роки тому +22

    Regarding police priorities - it would be interesting to compare their response time and numbers attending to say 1. someone lawfully taking pictures/video from a public place and 2. thefts/stolen goods like this case.

    • @philflip1963
      @philflip1963 2 роки тому

      I once threatened to arrest a pig for assaulting a friend of mine, the little shit got on the radio and in one minute flat 3 police cars and six officers arrived and bundled my friend into a car, they completely ignored me!

  • @concerned-citizen
    @concerned-citizen 2 роки тому +2

    We cannot possibly fund the police force, we have to send that money to Ukraine.

  • @michaeldaffern7815
    @michaeldaffern7815 2 роки тому +18

    Its been like it for years. I was mugged, reported it to the police who wanted to charge me with curb crawling. That was 2008, I'd never contact them again.

    • @PORRRIDGE_GUN
      @PORRRIDGE_GUN 2 роки тому +4

      I was shot in the head with an air rifle from a long range from council estate flats, and they told me to go home and take a paracetamol. I was bleeding profusely and suffered concussion for days. If one of them had been shot at with an air rifle, they'd have SWAT teams and helicopters out there in minutes and be kicking down doors all over the estate.

    • @MrBisketTV
      @MrBisketTV 2 роки тому +1

      Ha' now you know police are more interested in criminal intent than crimes reported by a victim...!😎

    • @michaeldaffern7815
      @michaeldaffern7815 2 роки тому

      @@MrBisketTV it was pretty strange. They said I'd come up with the story to account for me having empty pockets when I got home , to my wife.😅😅.I will say it's the strangest experience I've ever had. They wanted to do me for drink driving at the station, I knew what was coming so kept on about getting back in the car home, for got the bit that it was the farther inlaw driving.

    • @michaeldaffern7815
      @michaeldaffern7815 2 роки тому

      @@PORRRIDGE_GUN yep, would have been over run with them. Mainly a big bully boy club. It's a shame for the good ones.

  • @AUaudits
    @AUaudits 2 роки тому +8

    I was burgled & Lancashire Police refuse to investigate because I on Autism spectrum. Their psd sat on the fence for 12 months (ignored me) then ruled out of time. Police & Crime commissioner & IOPC say they no powers to investigate Police

    • @UncleBenjs
      @UncleBenjs 2 роки тому +1

      The police are often bullies to autistic people in my experience

    • @life_happens_reviews
      @life_happens_reviews 2 роки тому +1

      @autismuniteduk i hold advanced asd awareness certification along with asperger awareness certification although i am neuro typical

  • @mrsimo7144
    @mrsimo7144 2 роки тому

    Brilliant stuff. Thanks.

  • @briansmithenergy248
    @briansmithenergy248 2 роки тому +19

    Respect and gratitude. Pushing forward. Holding corrupted officials accountable crimes against humanity, crimes against the law of one.

  • @dannyharvie7700
    @dannyharvie7700 2 роки тому +134

    The victims should have said that they had been “misgendered”, that would have led to an immediate response

  • @kdato774
    @kdato774 Рік тому +1

    Police conduct is unacceptable. Full stop.

  • @michelleanderson8370
    @michelleanderson8370 2 роки тому +12

    Telling a victim to go knock on the door of the criminal sounds very dangerous. Reminds me of the old days were a DV victim was required to serve a protective order to the person that beat them up...scary AF

    • @KopperNeoman
      @KopperNeoman 2 роки тому

      That worked out just fine for women beating their husbands.
      Feminists never cared about anyone else.

    • @Naptosis
      @Naptosis 2 роки тому +1

      Pretty dangerous for the thieves too TBH.

  • @davey5080
    @davey5080 2 роки тому +18

    They only have time for things that collect them money.

    • @amandaduggan9051
      @amandaduggan9051 2 роки тому +1

      I won't have that. Back a while ago, I looked out the window late one night deciding whether or not we should take our dogs out for a walk to see flashing lights and 4 police cars blocking our drive. We went out to investigate to find 9 police in stab vests milling around. They had come out to deal with the female couple next door who had had an argument and a bit of a catfight! What a waste of Police resources.

  • @rodsimmons9337
    @rodsimmons9337 2 роки тому +2

    Shocking !
    I had a scooter stolen from my garden. The police told me that if they find it, I would have to pay for it to be recovered.

  • @chunkymonkey55555
    @chunkymonkey55555 2 роки тому +55

    I think personally, when you don't tackle "basic" crime, the rot sets in. Before you know it, the crime gets out of control and becomes more serious types of crime. I would think this was a pretty obvious concept, but there you go

    • @telx2010
      @telx2010 2 роки тому +2

      The rots at the top, always has been.

    • @chunkymonkey55555
      @chunkymonkey55555 2 роки тому

      @@telx2010 Say did you hear Labours new plans to hand over more power to different parts of the UK if they get "elected" into government? Looked like a recipe for more chaos to me.

    • @flyingfox7854
      @flyingfox7854 2 роки тому

      This is exactly what’s happening …. We have criminals coming over here especially from Albania to join organised gangs already established here … because they know that our police are unwilling to stop what they perceive as minor crimes … this then encourages the criminals to escalate to more serious crimes which is where we are now …. The police are not policing …. They are not doing the job that they are being paid to do …..

    • @icarusjumped2719
      @icarusjumped2719 2 роки тому

      yeah, the rot is the hate crime laws. No interest in actual crime, more bothered about policing thoughts.

    • @ilb735
      @ilb735 2 роки тому

      / agenda.

  • @watchesfromedges
    @watchesfromedges 2 роки тому +4

    My partner was assaulted at work along with a colleague by a customer at work in May, breaking a rib and cutting his face. The police attended and ensured his medical attention, then left it two months to take statements. The offender is known to them, but nothing more has come back from the police about the incident. Not only theft but physical assault is ignored.

  • @mrspleasants8529
    @mrspleasants8529 2 роки тому +1

    When a government does not keep its contractural obligations with the people, it is time for the people to remove said government. In this case; we stop providing taxes to the police and start our own police force.

  • @outsidethebox2037
    @outsidethebox2037 2 роки тому +7

    I have watched many videos recently where businesses call the Police about people filming outside their premises (auditing) and they turn up nearly every time, quite quickly . It has become obvious to many people that our Police Force now only seem to work for the State and Corporations.....When challenged most of the Officers appear to disregard their 'Oath'....to Serve & Protect The People. Is this a reflection of the country we now live in...? 🧐

  • @404_unfound
    @404_unfound 2 роки тому +14

    I also think that the police commissioner should be interviewed on TV at the attitude of the Chief Constable that reports to him. These cases need to be publicly discussed.
    Some time ago I was told of white vans that would go round housing estates looking for dogs. They would look for pre-marked houses. The van was seen stopping (no number plates), the driver getting out, stealing the dog that was in the front garden and driving off. Once again the police were not interested as there was no registration plate reported.

  • @steveemmett9540
    @steveemmett9540 2 роки тому +1

    What would you expect. We are in a lawless World.

  • @AdamKyleAnderson
    @AdamKyleAnderson 2 роки тому +7

    Couple of years back I was with wife and family in a Chinese on Oxford Street. We had finished eating and the waitress cleared our table. As we were getting ready to leave wife noticed her phone was gone.I asked wife if she was sure she had it out in the restuarant and she yes it was on the table as the waitress was clearing the table. I immediately rung the phone only to look into the eyes of a very embarrassed waiteress behind the countr with a phone ringing in her pocket.

  • @MalakAlMaut6860
    @MalakAlMaut6860 2 роки тому +35

    Unfortunately it is. I had children throwing stones at houses near mine. 10 of them. Police drove past them blue lights flashing didn't stop. Kids not bothered. I then got a phone call off the police officer saying had they gone 🤣 No. So i phoned a young lad i knew. Came flying down the field on his motorbike. Went to the biggest one and took him off his feet. They didn't stick around to find out who was next 🤣👍 thats the sad world we live in blackbelt unfortunately 👍

    • @djsylambert
      @djsylambert 2 роки тому +1

      Blue lights flashing means they already on a job usually lol

    • @MalakAlMaut6860
      @MalakAlMaut6860 2 роки тому +1

      @@djsylambert he was one guy i was told. To be fair nothing short of a chase was what they were aiming for.

  • @SomeRandomEnglishGuy
    @SomeRandomEnglishGuy 2 роки тому

    I had the same with a mountain bike. Spent 6 hours running round looking for it. Told the police I knew where it was and they didn't want to do anything despite the guy taking it being a prolific bike thief, also known to get violent. He was caught on CCTV. Stafford police didn't care and said if I feel comfortable, knock on, go in and take it. He got booted off it in the end while off to go and sell it, told them how we retrieved and got told that he had grounds to have us done for assault which I bet they'd respond alot faster to. Absolute madness. Heard alot of similar stories regarding Stafford Police.

  • @djsylambert
    @djsylambert 2 роки тому +10

    Just started the video, great to get a more detailed update 🙂

  • @djsylambert
    @djsylambert 2 роки тому +18

    That's just ridiculous behaviour from police. Kudos to the victim getting the job done. 👏 I still need some help/advice from a professional like you but I'm just getting brick walls 😕

  • @krissymarklewis1793
    @krissymarklewis1793 2 роки тому +2

    Exactly the same thing happened to my dad, a woman came up to him in a shop queue and did the same. The phone was on a string on his belt and she sneaked up behind with a knife and cut it, we only found out after watching the cctv. it was only a £10 phone but really sneaky how the do it.

  • @archstanton5603
    @archstanton5603 2 роки тому +8

    Last time I tried to report a serious issue (ongoing assault with violent threats from multiple individuals) the 999 call-hander told me to ring 111. Police attended 2hrs later apologising that they should have attended immediately. Although action against the offenders did follow, I now have no faith in our police.

    • @christophersavignon4191
      @christophersavignon4191 2 роки тому +2

      @WalterSobchak
      No, they didn't. They did not show up to a situation that called for immediate action. You could argue that they did half the job and were aware not doing the first half was wrong, but you can't say they did the job OP wanted them to do.
      The issue can't just be reduced to one call taker if they affect the response time of the organization as a whole. The weakest link breaks the chain, and it fails as a whole.

    • @archstanton5603
      @archstanton5603 2 роки тому +2

      @@christophersavignon4191 Thank you. Over the years this has not been an isolated incident in just one county when either colleagues or I have tried to make emergency calls: often while witnessing a serious and developing situation.

  • @bpccross
    @bpccross 2 роки тому +5

    I had a similar experience when my daughter's phone was taken while she was at the church we attend. I tracked the location as soon as we discorered it was missing (an hour or so after leaving) and went to the address. I called the police on the way (handsfree) to let them know where I was going and they arrived at around the same time. We realised it was an addict who had been attending the church for some time who admitted he had the phone.
    Strangely he refused to hand it over unless I went inside to get it from him (without the police) which the police and I agreed to do. I took a calculated risk having known him (albeit not too well) and went in. After much apology and excuses for the theft he actually handed it back, undamaged, with a story or woe about how he was messing his life up and hurting his dad who had bought him the house and was dying of cancer really worried about the state of his middle aged son. I actually ended up calling the dad whilst in the house and the church helped.
    Sometimes, you can win a situation with emotional wisdom and genuine empathy.

  • @concernedindividual7056
    @concernedindividual7056 2 роки тому +1

    Respect to these people for getting the phone back.
    The police would have acted differently if it was one of there own.
    Corruption of police is at an all time high.

  • @mpag6195
    @mpag6195 2 роки тому +14

    A few months ago my child found a large kitchen knife discarded in the bushes along a foot path in my area. I phoned the police station in our area to tell them about it as it looked suspicious, to which they said "can you just pick it up and through it in the bin."

    • @mpag6195
      @mpag6195 2 роки тому +3

      Also they did not even bother to record any information about the call like name and location

    • @marionthomas5947
      @marionthomas5947 2 роки тому +5

      😱, meanwhile 30 'officer's' out looking for a weapon used in an attack (well, it was a sunny day) 😳

  • @desres2281
    @desres2281 2 роки тому +31

    The Police are too busy dancing the Macarena, painting their cars in multicolours and threatening people who use hurry words! 😏

  • @Iamworthit58
    @Iamworthit58 2 роки тому

    I happened to me in Spain and the police did listen and tracked the phone and purse live and we got all of my stuff back in less than an hour. Murcia police I thank you.