The police love fishing. Keep your mouth shut. Only open mouth's get hooked. The police are not your friends, irrespective of how " nice" they are. They are your enemy. You are just another punter who can give them a conviction. Give them nothing not even a smirk, smile or rolling of the eyes. All gestures are recorded on video and they may even say outloud " Mr Jones is smiling as he looks st the pictures" etc. as your reaction will be interpreted as subconscious communication (Body language). Your advice is spot on. Thank you for posting Martin. ❤
What about saying in a polite way……l have nothing to say unless in the presence of my solicitor! As whatever you say seems these days are to trap and ensnare you
@@EtonieE25 No. Zip it. even that can lead on to further questions " what have you got to hide" etc. The best option is to be stoical and say " no comment". No facial gestures, nothing. Give then NOTHING. They will laugh about you in the office, thry are always full of contempt as in their minds, you are guilty, irrespective of context. Ive worked with police in the court system they are degenerate human beings.
Trouble is... the majority of solicitors are bloody useless. Duty solicitors are worse than useless. Unless you KNOW the solicitor personally, best course is simply to say that you will make a written statement, via your solicitor, in due course. Then shut up. Say NOTHING. Not "no comment" just keep quiet. The threat that your silence can be used against you is only valid in certain circumstances - basically where you wouldn't have a hope in hell of pleading not guilty anyway.
Don't talk to them ever, solicitor or no solicitor- COMMON LAW (Law of the land) - upheld by a police constable. No one is above common law, and those in breach of common law will be tried in a common law court before a jury of their peers. There must be a victim in common law and they do not need your name, as the victim and/or witnesses will point you out as being the perpetrator. Common law - 1 - You cannot hurt anyone 2 - You cannot steal anyone's property 3 - You cannot damage anyone's property 4 - You cannot defraud anyone 5 - You cannot commit breach of the peace towards anyone 6 - You cannot commit treason (or sedition), towards the crown. And that's common law ☝️, that's it and NOTHING ELSE. ACTS AND STATUTES OF PARLIAMENT (Commercial law, contract law, law of the sea, admiralty law) - upheld by a police officer. Only applies to certain groups (Road Traffic Act applies to drivers of vehicles etc) and needs your consent to enforce it, of which they will try to get using legalease ("Do you understand" - meaning do you 'under stand' ((stand under)) my authority). They need your name to issue fines and court dates, (as "Mr Hate crime" can't point you out in court - and no court usher ever shouts out "Occupier to court one"), You are the only one who can give or confirm your name, so NEVER give it. Your answer to every question should be - "I retain my common law right to remain silent" Your answer to every request should be - "I don't want to do anything you tell me to do, but I will do because I feel threatened by you" (They always "ask you" to do something rather than 'tell you' because then you've accepting their authority), and it's VERY important that people don't fall for the "Do you want to" etc etc, because this is where they will trap you. Q - "What's your name?" A - "I retain my common law right to remain silent" Q - "What's your address?" A - "I retain my common law right to remain silent" Q - "If you don't tell me you'll be arrested" A - "I retain my common law right to remain silent" Q - "Well I'm arresting you blah blah blah, 'do you understand'?" A - "No I do not stand under your authority" Q - "Ok well do you want to come this way" A - "I don't want to do anything you tell me to do, but I will do because I feel threatened by you" And before anyone points out that they can get your name from a driving license or passport etc, those are fraudulent documents created from a birth certificate that clearly states across the bottom - "A certificate is not evidence of identity". Let's not forget that the first thing a police constable says to you when he/she arrests you is - "You do not have to say anything", Because, believe it or not - YOU DON'T. You do NOT have to speak to a police constable. You do NOT have to speak to the desk sergeant at the police station. You do NOT have to have a police interview. You do NOT have to attend court. Exercise your God given inalienable common law rights, they're yours and cannot be taken away by anyone, especially by some police officer using his/her uniform to commit treason and fraud by acting as a government bailiff. Police constables swear an oath before God to serve the Monach and protect people and property. They DO NOT swear an oath to protect the government. They swear their oath raising their right hand, if they did the same in a court, they would receive two years for perjury.
Whatever you say say nothing. Its that simple and as pointed out above by @john riggs, duty solicitors are not to be used. They are relying on the police for work and piss in the same pot
You do not have to attend voluntary interviews, it means they do not have evidence of an offence and are trying to get it, Even if you are an aledged witness. Maintain your right to remain silent! This right was confirmed by the Justices in Neale v DPP (Feb 2021), also that remaining silent is not the offence of wilful obstruction!
Honestly it depends on the circumstances. Before one gets paranoid, the nature of the police interest in you needs to be established, which can be established by simply asking. Their answer should indicate if you should be concerned. If you are being actually interviewed, then of course you need a solicitor present. If you clearly are not the object in the case and are merely a witness giving a statement, then don't worry.
@@Brightstarlivesteam sometimes one needs to give evidence through a statement, which requires a visit to the police station. It's wrong not to help if a crime has been committed. The best advice is to establish the level of interest the police have in you.
Rafal Sony Absolutely... I have had a friend of a friend in the past. Where their life was destroyed quite simply because the Police "Had thought" They "got their Man".... When in fact they where just destroying his life.. One of the mistakes that came to my attention... Was that he, was "just answering a couple of questions" the police had for him. When they where actually interviewing him. And he did NOT even realize it! The police where THAT slippery... Now this was a while ago. He got cleared... And was suing the police for damages. And there WHERE damages. He even lost his job for their mistakes. Best to remain silent. And get a damned good lawyer. Police ARE not your friends.....
@@gunner678 You are wrong, there is plenty of evidence, that innocent people have been arrested by the policemen for inadvertently making an innocent verbal remark and due to deliberate mistakes on statement, so as to misconstrue what was actually said. If you maintain you right to remain silent, then these "MISTAKES" will not happen! The only thing the police want to do is stitch you up and get one more crime cleared up!
I once new a honest police man. He ended his career as a PC. I talked to him after his retirement. He wasn’t ashamed of his career in the police. But he didn’t have a good word to say about modern police. He was a local Bobby he served his community. Even the bad boys respected him and still speak highly about him. He was the one they sent to give bad news because every one new he was a good guy. This honest police man died a few years ago. The police sent two cadets to the crematorium. Not one person from the police came to the pub afterwards. He was right about them. He gave people respect and earned respect in return . A proper local Bobby He pulled me and friends over the years and it normally ended up with a. Behave your self. Or get some tax. Slow down. Even stay away from them there trouble. are The last of the respected good cops. He was also a neighbour. And I’m no saint.
Yes, I knew one or two local bobbies like that, sometimes they would give advice on what to do if it looked iffy, many a youngster avoided time by listeningmto their sage advice. These guys often went on to become law abiding or decent lads, unlike today's toerags who have issues like addiction, mental health or anger issues which can ruin their's and others lives.
What a fantastic gentleman this is. Thank you for taking the time to help people protect themselves. Excellently spoken in an understandable way. Thanks again, for this essential information sir.
exactly and the first to complain will automatically be believed by the cops and the accused will automatically be considered guilty I have experience and lost all confidence in them and they do lie to you
@@josephberrie9550 Me too, and exactly my own experience Joseph. Your complete innocence does not matter in the least and is no protection in some circumstsmces.
@@rackitman5950 I'd agree at one time, but it turns out now that someone's say-so can be enough now. Also, even without a conviction they can destroy lives, health and careers based on a complete lie. I know because it happened to me depsite being NFA and genuinely completely innocent. Its terrifying to know that at any moment someone only has to pick up the phone and tell a ridiculous lie you'll be thrown in a cell for 20+ hours, denied medication you need for chronic pain every 12 hours and they will even ring your boss and try to get you fired. The lie does not even have to be half sensible and they'll do this to you. Evidence does not matter in the least to them- only trying to get a chalk does.
This happened to me. In 2012 got convicted for a crime I didn't commit. I lost all faith in the Justice System after that. I wish there was a way to clear my name. I even had independent witnesses who confirmed what I said, but the court didn't want to hear from them. I consider myself a law aiding citizen. I help the law where I can, but I'll never talk in an interview again. If I can be charged with a crime I NEVER COMMITTED. Anyone can. NO COMMENT!
IS THAT ALL YOU NEED TO SAY TO THEM IN SCOTLAND MY FREIND,?? I AM going through this myself, i would tell you the story but .. man anybody could see this and make things even worse..........
After doing jury service I now call the jury "twelve idiots in a box". The jury make immediate judgement about EVRYONE in the court and no amount of evidence will change their minds about the defendant. Maybe we should teach basic law in school. The police would not like that.
If the police show up at your door to chat, DO NOT LET THEM IN YOUR HOUSE! If they ask you to step outside your house because they want to talk to you, DON'T GO! They are there for a reason, and they are not their in a friendly capacity. I had two friends who stepped out doors to talk to police and the next thing you know they were hauled off to the police station. Force their hand to obtain an court order and call a lawyer.
100% correct, i did this myself once on a matter i wasn't connected with but they turned up at my door with Sherriff Officers as there was outstanding speeding tickets and parking fines for a car that belonged to the daughter of the lady we bought our house from. She hadn't changed the address on the V5. I told them "that lady no longer lives here, the deeds on the house are changed they (pointing at the police) can check that, that vehicle is not here i don't care who it's registered to that person doesn't live here i have nothing else to say to you and NO you cannot come in. No i won't come out and discuss the matter goodbye, door closed and locked. "
Absolutely correct. I disagree with many of these help and advice videos, because they seem to suggest actually speaking with the so called police, even if you have not committed crime or harm! Why would anyone need a lawyer, if there is no crime! I certainly would not be wasting energy on the grifters, and would tell them where to go and good bye! They are seriously guilty of not even attending actual crimes. What a disgrace they have become!
I have been in a police interview regarding a false accusation of criminal damage. I engaged without a lawyer because I KNEW that they did not have any evidence. The interview lasted 3 hours with all the good cop, bad cop routine and "C'mon, you did it didn't you" line. Given the nature of my personality I found the whole thing farcically amusing because I knew that I would be walking. However, one momentary lapse or wrong word, especially if they catch you lying or being economical with the truth, then everything will change. I cannot thank Martin enough for producing this video and shining the arc light of truth on what is, in reality, is a very sinister process that does not have one shred of your interests at heart. You are just a potential 'nick' to enable them to tick a box and dispose of a reported crime. Do not forget: you are innocent until proven guilty, it is not your job to prove your innocence, it is the police's job to prove your guilt and you are under no obligation to help them do that. Do not be deceived into thinking that you are proving your innocence by answering question unaided. GET A LAWYER OR GET NICKED
Looooooooool, that's funny, not only does nobody on Earth speak like that nor is there any need, we have SOLICITORS in UK not "Lawyers". It is suffice to say "no comment" and "I want my solicitor!" Nuff said...
Very informative advice. I hadn't considered that the police might deliberately structure their questioning to nullify statutory defences rather going for straight incrimination. The rule stands: Say nothing.
The police have one purpose in life, to sucessfuprosecute as many people as possible. They are not on our side. The old bill have been pulling the wool over people's eyes for years with PR stunts like Police Camera Action but essentially they see us as the enemy. That's why don't have any non-police friends and always look the other way when one of them is up to no good.
@@grumpygramps1451 What's ridiculous is painting all police with the same brush. Like saying all old grumpy men are senile. I hope you don't teach your grandkids how to be disrespectful.
Many years ago i was called in for a police "interview regarding an RTA that I had, alledgedly, caused. I insisted that I wrote my statement but the officer told me that it was better that he wrote it because his handwriting was more ligible than mine. During the talk I learnt that a staionary bus that I was overtaking had pulled out and then moved back in hitting a bollard and that I had been the cause of that. My defence was that as I was overtaking a stationary vehicle it should have remained stationary until I had passed it, don't forget the rule of the left in the UK. I further added that I did not stop because I was unaware that there had been an accident. the statement mentioned nothing about my comment on the rule of the left, which I believe is part of the Road Traffic act and he had written that I was not awarethat I HAD CAUSED an accident. When they handed me the statement i wrote on the bottom that I refuse to sign it as I had been denied to write my own statement and that the written version was not the true statement that I had made. The Inspector told me that I had to sign it so I told him to bring in his Superintendant. Of course that was the end of that and two weeks later I received a letter from the Chief Superintendant's office of that district informing me that there were no charges against me. Oh and when i saw his writing it was as if a 12 year old schoolboy had written it.
@@Xiapete I was immediately suspicious when he wouldn't let me write my own statement, his excuse was lame as I have had a grammar school education and presumed that was not the case for him.
Colin Paterson. I've had similar on two occasions but not as serious as yours. The police were unhappy when I refused to sign a statement at the bottom of the sheet of paper but would only sign at the end of the statement as written, but I got my way. In another case I refused to give a statement unless I was given a copy of the hand written statement at the time, that didn't go down well but again I got my wish as they wanted a statement. The statement was incorrectly typed up to the benefit of the accused and I wouldn't have known if I hadn't insisted on the hand written copy.
Some would recommend initialling every line or gap so nothing can be inserted at a later date. Not that they would of course, our police are wonderful. Hhmmm!
I had similar re a theft from a shop I worked in. They had written that I had recognised the thieves , I refused to sign it and told them that was not what I had seen. They were not happy but I couldn’t care less,they literally kicked me out the station.
The process as described is certainly disquieting, not least because it's a minor "failing to stop/report an accident (damage only?) occurrence - no more. Police enquiries would then have been merely to enquire into it and to establish WHAT anyone who supposedly "failed to stop" had to say. Failing to stop involves having knowledge of an accident with the legal requirement to stop and exchange details on demand - or failing to report it to police thereafter according to circumstances. The evidence may indicate that the driver of a vehicle that had failed to stop should have known of the accident. After being given an initial report of such an accident, police on enquiry would have interviewed the suspected driver/owner about the allegation based on the report they had - and the circumstances - to allow him/her the opportunity to put their side of the story. There seems little point in an enquiring officer being partial in any respect since it involves two parties giving their sides of the story in a mundane every day traffic matter in which circumstances and actions can be explained before any court proceedings need commence. In this case, it seems that there was insufficient evidence to show that there was "knowledge" of an accident having occurred and No Further Action by police was decided.
Very true. Innocent or guilty, if you speak you are likely to convict yourself. Remember that. INNOCENT OR GUILTY - it makes no difference. The ONLY way to respond, in my opinion - unless you are clearly not involved and simply being interviewed as a witness to something - is to make no comment at all. It is not even necessary to say "no comment". Just keep your mouth shut.
Well said: just the words "No comment," when the interview recording is played to a jury, can be damning - makes an interviewee appear cocky, like a hardened criminal. But... it"s easier said than done. Just remember these five words: NEVER TALK TO THE POLICE.
It WASN'T necessary to say "no comment" or anything else, now it kinda is (see Salinas vs Texas case). Even being silent now can be used as an admission of guilt in court, unfortunately. The only good-ish way to get out of the situation is to pledge the 6th, which means asking for a lawyer present and saying nothing more besides that.
A few years ago I would have dismissed this as paranoid and yet today I would never speak to the police without legal assistance. So very sad. When did we cease to be policed with our consent?
@@robertdore9592 well to a degree we did consent to being policed in the uk and the relationship was sound for many decades. The relationship has become more dysfunctional only in recent years especially in the more urban areas. This is why the police were a largely unarmed force in the uk. The relationship has deteriorated and we now find that much of the force is armed. It would be interesting to examine the exact mechanism of the consent and how it might be withdrawn. As to the surveillance, we agreed to that in order to enable us to be safer and as we know, those who relinquish freedoms in return for safety pretty soon have neither. We must ensure that we keep control of trial by jury as it represents our last constitutional avenue to dismantle an over grown and hostile state.
My mum taught me all I need to deal with the Police. Say nothing, sign nothing, call me. She was a QC. I got in trouble a couple of times. I probably should have talked to the police, because the bollockings I got off her was Richter 10 level stuff. God rest her soul.
So odd. As a casual in my teens I'd say I was scared of nobody and definitely not the police. Ex army now and teach martial arts. When my mother raises her voice at my two brothers and I we shut up and hide. I always told the police don't take me home 😂😂. My five foot five mother just stuck the head in me once. Never gave her cheek again 😁
As a decent law abiding citizen who only needed help, and was the one who brought the police into a situation, I learnt all that has been said the very hard way. I would be very ashamed to be a police officer. No better than bastards.
Children need this sort of advice during secondary school. Even play act situations so that they are not completely scared into confirming what may be suggested to them by the police.
Even middle school age. They should learn also about police stop, whether produce ID, give their name, consent to a search, etc. Whether to let Police in their car/home. All the things that BLM don’t teach, but should.
Have you ever wondered why LAW is NOT a school subject ? - just think what a mess the country would be in if it were - Sir Humphrey Appleby, Yes, Minister.
Do you really think it appropriate that state-funded schooling should teach pupils how to flummox the state police?😂 It would be better to have classes teaching pupils how to follow the law and not get involved in disputes. For example anger-management role-plays, where one side just walks away from trouble and ignores the "red-mist" (boundary disputes with neighbours, road rage etc). How about state schools also teaching pupils how to minimise tax liabilities?😂😂 Or how to look after their money wisely and not to blow it on mindless consumer-spending (which boosts GDP, essential to the survival of any government). Not going to happen. We citizens are on our own, the government is not our friend, nor are its official paid henchmen. The government is there fundamentally to maintain the King on the throne. However HM Government does do us the invaluable service of maintaining law and order, so we should be grateful for the fact we can sleep in our beds peacefully, one hopes.
99% of police are guilty of perjury, why are there never any charges put against them. ?. Simple they are a corrupt legal gang organised against the public that they are there to protect. Sanctioned by the residing Government you vote for. Well said Roy.
I am a law abiding citizen and have no criminal record and used to have a lot of respect for the police but the way they carry on now especially during lockdown they have lost all my respect now.
They don't want you to know. The Police are not our friends and you cannot talk your way out of being arrested and charged but you can most certainly can talk your way into prison, do not say anything other than your name.
Kenneth, you are quite wrong. In general, thanks in large part to social media, the public are now very aware that many many police officers fall far below the standards that we were brought up as children to expect police officers to uphold. You SHOULD watch the videos by CRIMEBODGE here on UA-cam. NEVER talk to the police, they do not want to establish facts they want to twist them.
@@mobiusklein9140 Thank you for the wise words . makes me wonder why simple contract law. money management interest rates and police powers are not taught in schools so as to have a more informed and rational society . Thanks
Unfortunately some people can't afforded legal assistance £200 per hour some charge is the same with family law Charge for waiting time in court High phone call costs Legal aid is harder to obtain
How may you remain silent, if you have that big fat license plate attached to the front and back of your car? You give me someone's license plate value, I'll tell you how much money is in their bank account.
When you are in an interview room innocent or guilty the police are not your friends & they are not there to help you. Don’t talk without a solicitor & keep your mouth shut “NO COMMENT!” Is your best friend & saviour
I would add stay away from duty solicitors especially at the hearing. In my case he new nothing about the case until he sat in front of me just before we went in. He got everything so wrong it felt like i had two prosecution lawyers.
Just like here in the States with our public defenders. Sometimes even a high-priced defense attorney will throw their client's case because connections. That's obscene! 😡
@@mickthebandit. I take it you don't have a lot of money, or are on benifits ?... You have NO CHANCE now unless you can afford a good one who isn't too fat yet and still trying to get a job with the crown !!!
A solicitor once told me that many people imagine that the job of the police is to conduct an interview to find out the truth or probable truth of a situation and then decide whether or not to proceed with a prosecution. THIS IS NOT THE CASE, he said. What the police do is to find out if there is sufficient evidence to charge someone with an offence. Whether they do or don't believe in one's guilt or innocence is irrelevant to them. Always get a solicitor, because even being innocent and telling the truth can lead to you standing in the dock!
My father was falsely accused of damaging a car, the police interviewed my father and charged him with causing criminal damage We were lucky to find an excellent solicitor, who proved my father to be innocent in court. The point i am trying to make is, if you are formaly interviewed by the police, always ask for the duty solicitor if you don't have one. My father was never the same after this, he had a heart condition, and passed away a few months after the court hearing. My opinion of the police is that all they want is you to confess to the alleged crime so they can obtain a result. This excellent video is great advice, don't say anything until you speak to a solicitor.
I was locked up once for a ridiculous incident and I am so glad (almost a fluke) that I asked for the duty solicitor. Without that solicitor I would have possibly been prosecuted- I was so out of my depth
This is the right advise, and a similar situation for someone close to me. I advised him to have a solicitor before being interviewed. He took the advise but the police played it to him, like a tea party for him to give his variation on the complaint against him. It was just a smeer attempt from a neighbour, but for months later he was hounded by the police about accusations made by the same neighbour. So, i got him to make a complaint against the police for conduct and discrimination. He stopped getting hounded. There are these infringement laws that are very frivolously in the the justice system and it doesn’t really matter if it makes sense. I ask myself how many times people call the police about more serious crimes and the police either don’t do anything, or do little in respect to the initial complaint. Then they act on something that is trivia in the average persons way of thinking. in fact why do we need police?
Three most important things when dealing with plod for any reason 1 I want a solicitor 2 then do not speak 3 do not open your mouth 4 do not utter a word
@@jackmason4374 no im far to honest and descent, would not trust them as far as I could throw them,had very bad dealings with them,they will do whatever it takes to climb that greasy pole,bottom line....they have to get convictions if not there bosses wl want to know why
Never, ever talk to the police: "I have no comment to make at this time. I will be happy to make a full written statement in due course, after consulting my legal representative."
Right and take a lawyer as a consultant, never give him full power of attorney if you wanna stay free. In cases you have to empower a lawyer, be very specific over what you're giving him power, limit it to necessary things and never give up your rights to expercise them on the same matter along with him.
They did it with me just as he said. Friendly phone call, made out like a cup of tea and biscuits chat. I could come any time suited me. I smelt a rat and got a solicitor. He coached me and sat next to me. As a law abiding citizen I had never had an experience like it. Just like on TV with a double tape recorder they tried everything to twist my words and trap me despite my innocence. Fortunately it got dropped but gave me health problems after. Never trust them as they are vile.
Probably the best description of this I’ve ever heard. “Not a common sense thing”. Normal Conversational standards do not apply. This should be taught in schools!
Most jurisdictions I've checked require you to identify yourself upon request *if the police suspect* you've committed a crime, even when there's not enough evidence for an arrest.
The best thing is to say nothing. You don't need a solicitor until, perhaps you go to court. Even then, I wouldn't trust a solicitor to act in your best interests. They are 'officers' of the court first and foremost.
@@van-gabondramblinrose6398 Your man Martin Cray went to some trouble to assemble and deliver his professional legal advice. Then here in the comments we have a bunch of amateurs giving unprofessional advice, mostly anecdotal. Hilarious.
The Police are not our friends and you cannot talk your way out of being arrested and charged but you can most certainly can talk your way into prison, do not say anything other than your name.
Remember they are handing out heavy sentences for writing things on here, it is scanned for potential ‘hate’ or ‘racist’ type comments, UA-cam are not your friends either.
I knew a man who could fall asleep wherever he happened to be....he did exactly that at the beginning of a police interview, apparently they left him to it.
This was fantastic. Incredibly smart and powerful advice here. For what it’s worth, I can vouch that every word is true. Thank you very much for putting this together.
This is such wise advice and reminds me of a case, over a decade ago now, when I thought I had merely been asked to call at the local police station to discuss some previous and totally mundane motoring matter. When I got there, it turned out to be a formal interview and the caution was read. Up until this point, there was no offer of any legal assistance but, knowing the little that I did, at that moment I suddenly remember the name of one of the best defence lawyers I knew in the county and said I wanted him to be present. The detective was clearly extremely shocked by this, not to say slightly annoyed - but, of course, was forced to go away and arrange this. When it came to the actual interview - this was no discussion about a motoring offence but some completely trumped up notion of impersonating a police officer - a very serious matter indeed. Without the expert guidance I had from that criminal defence lawyer, I could’ve ended up in serious trouble. As it happens - he and I walked away from the police station and enjoyed a pint together in the pub opposite. Matter closed.
They don't actually make much from legal aid. That's why most of them are useless. If you are rich and can afford a top lawyer, your chances are far better - guilty or not.
@@johnriggs4929 apply for legal aid , be slow returning any documents, tie the courts system up with their own red tape . By the time they can sort it all out as they are so slow your court case will be over .lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Over the years I replayed my "interview" hundreds of times. I hadn't committed a crime, but telling a federal agent a lie is a felony, EVEN if the truth was my own personal business, and divulging it would endanger me in the public setting I was in. What was my alternative? I could have put myself in danger by publicly exposing my bankroll, i.e., the cash on my person. Or, I could have remained silent, refusing to speak to the Federal Agents. That would have been the end of it and I would have been free to go on my way. But, I cooperated by answering. I didn't see the harm, the danger of talking when I was "innocent". My speech, my lie to protect a private fact, was not shown to be a hinderance to their inquires. THAT DIDN'T MATTER! Any lie is a felony, no matter how inconsequential. Bottom line: I spoke to them without knowing how dangerous it was and having nothing to gain. I was ignorant of the law and I was not advised by the Feds that I could remain silent but if I spoke I had to tell the truth, however inconvenient, or be committing a felony. That info would have kept me silent and safe. But my wellbeing was not their goal. Their goal was to arrest someone for something to further their careers. If that arrest was for an inconsequential technicality, a harmless little white lie, it was still grounds for a FEDERAL CASE. I cooperated when I could have kept my mouth shut, had my money stolen, and became a FELON. I had nothing to gain by talking, so why did I?
My experience of interviews has taught me NEVER to speak to the police without a solicitor present. No comment will often be your best answer unless you are 100% certain that your answering their question honestly and openly will not result in action being taken against you. Always remember they have years of trying and experience on their side. Your best option is to get someone with experience onto your side, and best way to do that is to request a solicitor to be present during any interviews. Good luck.
Do not ever accept a duty solicitor. They work in conjunction with the police and courts and do not want to get into their bad books!, also their fee is limited and they need to spend as little time on your case as possible.
My wife is horrifically absent minded. Purses, passports, handbags, coats, cameras...all lost. I fear each day she walks out the door. One day she came back extremely late and explained she had been arrested for shoplifting. An item in her possession, she'd forgotten to pay. Trying to explain, the police were having none of it. "Admit you are guilty or you will be here a long time". I was so outraged I consulted a lawyer... who even named the interviewing officer..."was it...X?" Say nothing.
really robert? i myself am going through this farcity of godhood power myself i would go into more detail but you never ever know who is watching ie!! you know who i mean" wink wink, nudge nudge".... .... p.s., how did you get on m8??
I'm not trying to be clever or facetious, but you are OFFERED a caution. If you don't accept it, the ball is back in their court & it would be up to them to either drop the matter or pursue you through more formal channels. The cautions are highly convenient for them & I am sure they play heavily on fear to get you to accept it. A good case in point showing why it is NOT a good idea, if at all possible, to engage with them, without having your solicitor right there with you.
There is your official criminal record, and something called the Nominal Record, which is never divulged by the police force. The Caution will stay on your nominal record, but will be "Spent" {removed from the official record) after 6 months if you are not arrested again. So if you apply for a job 7 months later and require a police check to get the job, your caution will not show up. Good luck.
@@mickymidnight1 You are correct but I was in a Distressed state, they asked me to sign a form about the Interview was taped correctly or something , I just signed and ready to go , then one of the police women said “ Do you know what you have signed , You just signed the caution sheet “ ! I then told them I want that form ripped up, the then told me we can’t do that .I got to IPC who sent me a Copy of the Tape Recoding Declaring My Innocence , Which I still have , up until this Morning I have always believed the Caution of some serious thing made up by is on my records , since 2006 and always worried if I went for a Job it will kick back at me ,
I had the same thing , voluntary interview , it did get interviewed and was cautioned . I went in denied emphatically what was said. No investigation came of it and case closed. The Police officer was a very experienced officer who said himself there was nothing to the case. However the whole things was scary. The Solicitor shook my hand and said it was a pleasure to represent someone who was innocent . It was clear to him and said to me he will tell the police this is clearly a set up from the start . ALWAYS have a solicitor who is experienced. You have given awesome advice
IN February, in the High Court in Cardiff, (Neale v DPP (2021)) It was confirmed that you have a right to remain silent and not answer any question and that the police cannot arrest or charge you with wilful obstruction for not answering questions. Never accept the duty Solicitor and keep you lip firmly shut. If you say nothing then they have no evidence. The only part or the caution that is important is your right to remain silent. Do not speak to them at all! Rice v. Connolly (1966) is an English legal precedent holding that there is no strict, general legal duty to assist a police officer prior to any possible arrest or caution, with even basic police enquiries nor to accompany the officer to a requested location.
Something few people seem to be aware of is, regardless of whether or not they go on to charge you, (they didn't), the police will record any lie told about you and add it to an intelligence file. If you subsequently apply for a job that involves working with children or vulnerable adults, (nurse, football coach, police officer, traffic warden, bus conductor, piano teacher - you name it), this lie will be presented to your prospective employer on the the 'enhanced disclosure and barring certificate' you will be obliged to produce. Basically it means YOU WILL NOT GET A JOB until you have it removed. If you are already in one of these jobs you will be investigated by HR and have a good chance of being fired. Getting the slur removed can be a very expensive and difficult process. Please learn from my experience - until you have a solicitor KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT. And DO NOT ACCEPT THE DUTY SOLICITOR (HE/SHE IS A POLICE STOOGE).
I can tell you my experience. I finished work one afternoon 11 years ago. Knock at the door, the police. We’d had some burglaries in the street recently so I thought they were at my place to ask about that, if I’d seen or heard anything etc? I let them in. They asked if I knew Mr H and Ms R. I said yes, that’s my husband and the bint he ran away with. The female officer under her breath said oh shit. The male officer said have you had any contact with them lately. I said yes. They then asked for my phone and laptop. They said they were here to arrest me. I started laughing thinking it was a joke. At the time, I was 46, never broken any rules or had any issues w/ police. They took me to Hammersmith police station. They took my coat from me, fingerprinted me, dna tested me, photographed me then put me in a cell for 7 hours. They then put me in the back of a police van with a little cell in it and took me to Holborn police station. They said detectives were going to interview me. It’s about midnight now and I still have no idea what they’re talking about. They found me a duty solicitor and we were put in a room to wait for a detective. He came in and said I’m being charged with malicious communication because of messages I’ve sent my now ex husband and the bint. I said ok. Told him exactly what I’d said. Told him about the split up. How the ex cleaned out accounts, charged things to my cc, hacked his daughters Facebook, cancelled paying for her graduation trip, sent his son home early from holiday so he could hang out w/ the bint, constant torment from him via phone and computer (I screenshot everything), how the ex cut off the utilities and council tax, lied to the solicitor….I talked non stop for 2 hours. He then went away for a bit. He came back and said they were holding my phone and laptop for forensic examination. I could collect them in 2 weeks. He said it appears as though my ex was very selective in what he’d told them and less than forthcoming w/ the truth, his exact words. The duty solicitor said I’d been stitched up like a kipper! The duty solicitor dropped me home at 4am. I was told to come back in 2 weeks and collect my things and in the meantime have no contact w/ my ex. I returned 2 weeks later to pick up my stuff and see if I was being charged. The sergeant at the desk told me I was not being charged. Another detective told me stay as far away from that man, my ex, as I possibly could. I then had to go to another police station to pick up my things as they weren’t at Holborn. A few days later I got an envelope in the post from the OIC with info on womens refuges and domestic violence. The whole thing was an absolute nightmare I wouldn’t wish on anyone. The police at Hammersmith treated me like I was a murderer or hardened criminals, so nasty. The one who took my fingerprints shoved my hands around and was so mean to me, I was so upset but they did care at all. The police at Holborn were very nice and respectful. BUT the whole system is bullshit. I was arrested simply based on what my psycho ex had said. I had an arrest on my record for 7 years before it was removed. That meant I had to disclose the arrest at work and on official things. It didn’t affect me too much as far as employment went but I see how it could adversely affect someone. My ex did everything he could to destroy me, even though he’s the one who cheated and left and cleaned out the bank accounts and lied. What I do know now is, despite me spilling my guts and rambling on for 2 hours about every small detail and how the truth worked in my favour, I completely lost respect for the police. I don’t trust them. I’m scared of them now, where once I had full faith and they would be who I turned to in times of trouble or need, now id look for alternative resources or rely on myself. The police are NOT there to help you.
This is why when a police officer approaches you in the street, and tries to start a conversation with you, thats an interview because he/she is only Intrested in gathering info & finding guilt, don't answer any questions if you know you have done nothing wrong, no name no nothing, they've got nothing to start with only suspicion (usually), don't give them any rope by answering their questions, because they'll twist & turn everything.
Many years ago, I spoke to a man who in his youth committed a minor driving offence. He went to court, didn't bother with a solicitor. He said that the arresting officer's told a series of lies,and as a result he faced a much higher fine and a driving ban. He saw the two cops smirking. He walked up and told them that as long as he lived he would never ever help a police officer" . " If one evening I see some lads beating the shit out of a copper , I will just walk away" Never forgotten that.
Thats rule number one, when you're in front of the custody suite the only things you say are who you are your date of birth, and yes to the question posed to you asking if you understand why you're in police custody, then the last thing you request is your phone call to the duty solicitor then you keep stumm until your solicitor arrives and speak only to him or her. Above all keep your shit together as from experience years ago for minor issues duty solicitors can take an age to turn up.
When i was a kid the local "lads" used to call police "the filth" , i always thought that was a bit harsh but after attending a couple of peaceful marches in London im starting to think they are right.
Love how this is put, and we should memorize this. Having dealt with the police I learnt, very quickly where they were coming from, twisters, who try to gain your confidence so that you accidently incriminate yourself, even though you have done nothing wrong. I have learnt a great deal, over the years, on how to deal with police officers, that have sought to arrest me, and they have gone away with their tails between their legs. However, I have had to use a solicitor in one case, then had to dismiss him because he was simply not interested in doing any work. The second solicitor was genuine and we ripped the police in shreds. Good solicitors are valuable, and when you have one you have a gem
Fear is why you feel you need to speak, if nothing is spoken into the field of existing existence then it does not exist. They know this now you do each is creating the reality.❤
First remain completely silent. If you feel under stress say " I can smell alcohol, have you been drinking today? Or "Your pupils appear fixed and dilated have you taken anything you shouldn't have." That will get right up there nose, especially if they have been.
Yeah first someone drives in front of you spraying chemicals up your front and when your pupills are fixed you will be pulled over by the cops you truly don't know the way it works? C'mon Man
@@fuggoff5277 This video is about a police interview in the station not at the side of the road. My suggestions are to put them off their stride and divert the attention away from yourself. Not sure what you mean by chemical spray.
Have you tried that? The police officers I have dealt with would certainly make you pay for remarks like that, one way or another. These thugs are wearing the blue uniforms and that's all the edge they need to feel confident enough to use the upper hand as they see fit. The police force nowadays is populated by poorly educated, aggressive, even psychotic misfits who, by and large, are useless to the human race and have ended up in the police force because of that.
I was locked up once and without the duty solicitor I would have been utterly screwed. If you are locked up get the duty solicitor to help you before you talk to the police officers
Police officers tend to plead amnesia when fielding potentially incriminating questions, this approach minimises the risk of self incrimination and avoids the negative inference associated with a 'no comment' reply.
iF YOU HAVE NO PATIENCE or are not prepared to sit it out, very calmly and quietly, in a box of concrete and steel, get help immediately. This is a game, and the language alien.
the old bill are also very good at lying ,falsifying evidence ,cheating ,being corrupt, pressuring you into something .covering each others lies ,trying to be your friend, saying its just a few friendly questions. making up there own laws as they go along
The Golden Rule is "Never Never Ever" say anything in a Police Interview or make any statement without first speaking to known competent Solicitor ? Never let the Police provide you with a Solicitor, or suggest the Duty solicitor at a police station? 🙄 Choose your own solicitor and get his professional advice before any interview begins 😉👍
He is absolutely spot on with his advice. Anything you might say can and WILL BE used against you at a later point. I was arrested after a false allegation was made against me. I was detained in a cold cell overnight and not interviewed until late the next day after very little sleep. Although the CPS decided not to prosecute 6 months later my entire life was turned upside down over that time. I am a guy who has lived his entire life always trying to do the right thing. None of that counts once you are in an interview room. It is absolutely naive to believe that the police are there to protect the innocent.
The Police are not our friends and you cannot talk your way out of being arrested and charged but you can most certainly can talk your way into prison, do not say anything other than your name.
I knew someone who was called in to talk , they pointed at a cctv image and said do you know the man in the grainy image , he said yes I work with him its Dave from work I am his boss , they concluded the interview immediately thats all they wanted as the image wasn't good enough on its own but the identification form a work boss was enough to send him to jail for 6 months
thats exactly what im going through at this exact moment in january 2022!!!!!!!! i swear on my beloved mothers grave, i will take it all the way............. fuking scum thats all they are..
It's funny that this very precient video should pop-up on our feeds now, just when so many innocent people, unaware of the pitfalls of police interrogations and of court processes, wrongly pled "guilty" to serious crimes. Those poor people were TRICKED into pleading guilty, when they were utterly free of any criminal guilt whatsoever.
Net Tint Roller It's relevant now because the young new policeman sitting in on this 'interview' has this experience to draw upon. Sure there are guidelines, codes of practice and PACE, but that once young policeman is now coming up for retirement and remembers when all the red tape didn't get in the way of 'good old police tactics. And he's the one doing the manipulation today. There, I said it.
I was never in trouble with the police so this is fantastic advice to people like me so I'm not taken advantage of by the police in the event of something happening
Very sharp in the way of asking the questions so as to incriminate you but very stupid and stubborn when facing someone who knows it's rights and how to protects itself from these sneaky tactics of self incrimination. Public servants ? No. Publicly Owned Lawless Institution Comiting Extorsion.
Five years later your advice is more relevant now then ever before .
Chilling.
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@@zx9mel can u elaborate?
@@pauldirac808 I’m user of protein shakes I was so
doin' much crime, are you?
This turns out to be even more important than it once was.
Best advice ever. Say nothing until you speak with your Solicitor
So wrong, your solicitor will trick you into representing a legal fiction. You are not your birth certificate.
Who will then charge you £2k for the advice, 'Give a no comment interview '.
Saying nothing can be enough.
@michaelfraser5723 yes put your hands in your pockets and don't say a word. As Rumpole of the bailey said Silence is Golden
@@matrixseniorIs that true you get charged two grand for a solicitor?
I am a solicitor, but not a criminal lawyer. Your presentation and advice were both excellent. I have much respect for you.
Likewise myself
@@richardhadley7396❤
I need your help
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Uk police are a corporation and no longer working for the British people,2 tier policing
The police love fishing. Keep your mouth shut. Only open mouth's get hooked. The police are not your friends, irrespective of how " nice" they are. They are your enemy. You are just another punter who can give them a conviction. Give them nothing not even a smirk, smile or rolling of the eyes. All gestures are recorded on video and they may even say outloud " Mr Jones is smiling as he looks st the pictures" etc. as your reaction will be interpreted as subconscious communication (Body language). Your advice is spot on. Thank you for posting Martin. ❤
What about saying in a polite way……l have nothing to say unless in the presence of my solicitor! As whatever you say seems these days are to trap and ensnare you
@@EtonieE25 You've entered into a dialogue which is a mistake.. just No comment.
Basically... Just stare and not react.
@@EtonieE25 No. Zip it. even that can lead on to further questions " what have you got to hide" etc. The best option is to be stoical and say " no comment". No facial gestures, nothing. Give then NOTHING. They will laugh about you in the office, thry are always full of contempt as in their minds, you are guilty, irrespective of context. Ive worked with police in the court system they are degenerate human beings.
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If I thought I would get a competent man like you I wouldn't think twice.
I guess we don't use the duty solicitor then ! I have no trust in them.
@@michaeldawson6309After those poor sods imprisoned for trusting the duty solicitors l wouldn’t trust a word any of them said!
My late father in law gave me this advice "Say nothing without a Solicitor" - his job Police Officer
Trouble is... the majority of solicitors are bloody useless. Duty solicitors are worse than useless. Unless you KNOW the solicitor personally, best course is simply to say that you will make a written statement, via your solicitor, in due course. Then shut up. Say NOTHING. Not "no comment" just keep quiet. The threat that your silence can be used against you is only valid in certain circumstances - basically where you wouldn't have a hope in hell of pleading not guilty anyway.
Don't talk to them ever, solicitor or no solicitor-
COMMON LAW (Law of the land) - upheld by a police constable.
No one is above common law, and those in breach of common law will be tried in a common law court before a jury of their peers.
There must be a victim in common law and they do not need your name, as the victim and/or witnesses will point you out as being the perpetrator.
Common law -
1 - You cannot hurt anyone
2 - You cannot steal anyone's property
3 - You cannot damage anyone's property
4 - You cannot defraud anyone
5 - You cannot commit breach of the peace towards anyone
6 - You cannot commit treason (or sedition), towards the crown.
And that's common law ☝️, that's it and NOTHING ELSE.
ACTS AND STATUTES OF PARLIAMENT (Commercial law, contract law, law of the sea, admiralty law) - upheld by a police officer.
Only applies to certain groups (Road Traffic Act applies to drivers of vehicles etc) and needs your consent to enforce it, of which they will try to get using legalease ("Do you understand" - meaning do you 'under stand' ((stand under)) my authority).
They need your name to issue fines and court dates,
(as "Mr Hate crime" can't point you out in court - and no court usher ever shouts out "Occupier to court one"),
You are the only one who can give or confirm your name, so NEVER give it.
Your answer to every question should be -
"I retain my common law right to remain silent"
Your answer to every request should be -
"I don't want to do anything you tell me to do, but I will do because I feel threatened by you" (They always "ask you" to do something rather than 'tell you' because then you've accepting their authority), and it's VERY important that people don't fall for the "Do you want to" etc etc, because this is where they will trap you.
Q - "What's your name?"
A - "I retain my common law right to remain silent"
Q - "What's your address?"
A - "I retain my common law right to remain silent"
Q - "If you don't tell me you'll be arrested"
A - "I retain my common law right to remain silent"
Q - "Well I'm arresting you blah blah blah, 'do you understand'?"
A - "No I do not stand under your authority"
Q - "Ok well do you want to come this way"
A - "I don't want to do anything you tell me to do, but I will do because I feel threatened by you"
And before anyone points out that they can get your name from a driving license or passport etc, those are fraudulent documents created from a birth certificate that clearly states across the bottom -
"A certificate is not evidence of identity".
Let's not forget that the first thing a police constable says to you when he/she arrests you is -
"You do not have to say anything",
Because, believe it or not -
YOU DON'T.
You do NOT have to speak to a police constable.
You do NOT have to speak to the desk sergeant at the police station.
You do NOT have to have a police interview.
You do NOT have to attend court.
Exercise your God given inalienable common law rights, they're yours and cannot be taken away by anyone, especially by some police officer using his/her uniform to commit treason and fraud by acting as a government bailiff.
Police constables swear an oath before God to serve the Monach and protect people and property. They DO NOT swear an oath to protect the government.
They swear their oath raising their right hand, if they did the same in a court, they would receive two years for perjury.
Whatever you say say nothing. Its that simple and as pointed out above by @john riggs, duty solicitors are not to be used. They are relying on the police for work and piss in the same pot
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What a spaz 🤣🤣
@@Martin4963 - I didn't know Beowa's father in law so I can't confirm if he was or not.
"police interviews seem to be an invitation to assist the police in a prosecution against yourself"
You do not have to attend voluntary interviews, it means they do not have evidence of an offence and are trying to get it, Even if you are an aledged witness. Maintain your right to remain silent! This right was confirmed by the Justices in Neale v DPP (Feb 2021), also that remaining silent is not the offence of wilful obstruction!
Honestly it depends on the circumstances. Before one gets paranoid, the nature of the police interest in you needs to be established, which can be established by simply asking. Their answer should indicate if you should be concerned. If you are being actually interviewed, then of course you need a solicitor present. If you clearly are not the object in the case and are merely a witness giving a statement, then don't worry.
@@Brightstarlivesteam sometimes one needs to give evidence through a statement, which requires a visit to the police station. It's wrong not to help if a crime has been committed. The best advice is to establish the level of interest the police have in you.
Rafal Sony
Absolutely...
I have had a friend of a friend in the past. Where their life was destroyed quite simply because the Police "Had thought"
They "got their Man"....
When in fact they where just destroying his life..
One of the mistakes that came to my attention... Was that he, was "just answering a couple of questions" the police had for him.
When they where actually interviewing him. And he did NOT even realize it!
The police where THAT slippery...
Now this was a while ago. He got cleared... And was suing the police for damages. And there WHERE damages.
He even lost his job for their mistakes.
Best to remain silent. And get a damned good lawyer.
Police ARE not your friends.....
@@gunner678 You are wrong, there is plenty of evidence, that innocent people have been arrested by the policemen for inadvertently making an innocent verbal remark and due to deliberate mistakes on statement, so as to misconstrue what was actually said. If you maintain you right to remain silent, then these "MISTAKES" will not happen! The only thing the police want to do is stitch you up and get one more crime cleared up!
I once new a honest police man. He ended his career as a PC. I talked to him after his retirement. He wasn’t ashamed of his career in the police. But he didn’t have a good word to say about modern police.
He was a local Bobby he served his community. Even the bad boys respected him and still speak highly about him.
He was the one they sent to give bad news because every one new he was a good guy. This honest police man died a few years ago. The police sent two cadets to the crematorium. Not one person from the police came to the pub afterwards.
He was right about them.
He gave people respect and earned respect in return .
A proper local Bobby
He pulled me and friends over the years and it normally ended up with a. Behave your self. Or get some tax. Slow down. Even stay away from them there trouble. are The last of the respected good cops.
He was also a neighbour.
And I’m no saint.
Yes, I knew one or two local bobbies like that, sometimes they would give advice on what to do if it looked iffy, many a youngster avoided time by listeningmto their sage advice. These guys often went on to become law abiding or decent lads, unlike today's toerags who have issues like addiction, mental health or anger issues which can ruin their's and others lives.
No 'saints' are perfect that why the need Jesus Christ as well.
Political lice now unfortunately are soulless conscienceless drone robots with ego's. That work for the global power elite's New World Order's Plan.
What a fantastic gentleman this is. Thank you for taking the time to help people protect themselves.
Excellently spoken in an understandable way.
Thanks again, for this essential information sir.
It was well presented and informative. It was also an advert.
The police are not necessarily after the truth, just what will lead to a conviction, that's all they are interested in.
exactly and the first to complain will automatically be believed by the cops and the accused will automatically be considered guilty I have experience and lost all confidence in them and they do lie to you
Absolutely true.
@@josephberrie9550 Me too, and exactly my own experience Joseph. Your complete innocence does not matter in the least and is no protection in some circumstsmces.
There is that little thing called 'evidence', which the police and courts require to secure a conviction.
@@rackitman5950 I'd agree at one time, but it turns out now that someone's say-so can be enough now. Also, even without a conviction they can destroy lives, health and careers based on a complete lie. I know because it happened to me depsite being NFA and genuinely completely innocent. Its terrifying to know that at any moment someone only has to pick up the phone and tell a ridiculous lie you'll be thrown in a cell for 20+ hours, denied medication you need for chronic pain every 12 hours and they will even ring your boss and try to get you fired. The lie does not even have to be half sensible and they'll do this to you. Evidence does not matter in the least to them- only trying to get a chalk does.
In the UK it was always "Innocent Until Proven Guilty" Not any more with today's Police, now it's
" Guilty Until Proven Innocent".
Guilty until “proven” guilty I would suggest
And the onus is no longer for them to prove that you're guilty, the onus is very much now that you have to prove your own innocence.
It’s the same in the States, provided you live long enough to go to trial.
@@chrisellis1232 In the grim 70s it was 'innocent until proven Irish'.
In NZ ,you guilty regardless ,the onus is on you to prove that you even have right to justice.
Thank you. Your video helped me get out of a very sticky situation.
Yours sincerely.
Prince Andrew.
fantastic prinny andy, or do you prefer andy pandy, the kiddies favourite?
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@@mickrichardson4902 She was 18. Just saying.
@@Jin-Ro
Someone said she was over eighteen.
You should use your regular knickname..."RANDY ANDY" 🤔..and how was that pizza from pizza express on the night in question 🤔 a bit "cheesy" no doubt 😆
This happened to me. In 2012 got convicted for a crime I didn't commit. I lost all faith in the Justice System after that. I wish there was a way to clear my name. I even had independent witnesses who confirmed what I said, but the court didn't want to hear from them. I consider myself a law aiding citizen. I help the law where I can, but I'll never talk in an interview again. If I can be charged with a crime I NEVER COMMITTED. Anyone can. NO COMMENT!
IS THAT ALL YOU NEED TO SAY TO THEM IN SCOTLAND MY FREIND,?? I AM going through this myself, i would tell you the story but .. man anybody could see this and make things even worse..........
Socrates said it himself. Silence is a very powerful thing
@Derek Anthony Farmer The right to remain silent is never lost, but in many cases you have to explicitly invoke it.
I reckon you did commit it ;) come on now lets be honest.
After doing jury service I now call the jury "twelve idiots in a box". The jury make immediate judgement about EVRYONE in the court and no amount of evidence will change their minds about the defendant. Maybe we should teach basic law in school. The police would not like that.
If the police show up at your door to chat, DO NOT LET THEM IN YOUR HOUSE! If they ask you to step outside your house because they want to talk to you, DON'T GO! They are there for a reason, and they are not their in a friendly capacity. I had two friends who stepped out doors to talk to police and the next thing you know they were hauled off to the police station. Force their hand to obtain an court order and call a lawyer.
Sage advice and I have done this myself….
100% correct, i did this myself once on a matter i wasn't connected with but they turned up at my door with Sherriff Officers as there was outstanding speeding tickets and parking fines for a car that belonged to the daughter of the lady we bought our house from. She hadn't changed the address on the V5.
I told them "that lady no longer lives here, the deeds on the house are changed they (pointing at the police) can check that, that vehicle is not here i don't care who it's registered to that person doesn't live here i have nothing else to say to you and NO you cannot come in. No i won't come out and discuss the matter goodbye, door closed and locked. "
Unfortunately I knew that but there are many who are watching the video who don't, thanks for saying it .
Absolutely correct. I disagree with many of these help and advice videos, because they seem to suggest actually speaking with the so called police, even if you have not committed crime or harm!
Why would anyone need a lawyer, if there is no crime!
I certainly would not be wasting energy on the grifters, and would tell them where to go and good bye!
They are seriously guilty of not even attending actual crimes. What a disgrace they have become!
And FILM everything.
I have been in a police interview regarding a false accusation of criminal damage. I engaged without a lawyer because I KNEW that they did not have any evidence. The interview lasted 3 hours with all the good cop, bad cop routine and "C'mon, you did it didn't you" line. Given the nature of my personality I found the whole thing farcically amusing because I knew that I would be walking. However, one momentary lapse or wrong word, especially if they catch you lying or being economical with the truth, then everything will change. I cannot thank Martin enough for producing this video and shining the arc light of truth on what is, in reality, is a very sinister process that does not have one shred of your interests at heart. You are just a potential 'nick' to enable them to tick a box and dispose of a reported crime. Do not forget: you are innocent until proven guilty, it is not your job to prove your innocence, it is the police's job to prove your guilt and you are under no obligation to help them do that. Do not be deceived into thinking that you are proving your innocence by answering question unaided. GET A LAWYER OR GET NICKED
This might be ASD, a lot of people are undiagnosed or might be ADHD.
seems nowadays its "guilty until proven innocent"........
“I respectfully decline to answer questions until my lawyer is present “
Looooooooool, that's funny, not only does nobody on Earth speak like that nor is there any need, we have SOLICITORS in UK not "Lawyers". It is suffice to say "no comment" and "I want my solicitor!" Nuff said...
Ninja, it costs nothing to be ultra polite. It will not be seen as aggressive or overly defensive.
Especially in this day and age of such a corrupt and aggressive Stasi like force we have in this Country now.
@@ukbusman you have no idea about the stasi, so dont try to compare
@@BlutoandCo Comment on the video, not the commentary. You have no idea what I do and do not know, so button it lad.
Very informative advice. I hadn't considered that the police might deliberately structure their questioning to nullify statutory defences rather going for straight incrimination.
The rule stands: Say nothing.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING
It is refreshing to hear a logical, drama free, discussion of our reality that is just a few missteps away.
The police are not there to help you, they are there to incriminate you.
Thats ridiculous! Paranoia as its worst. Maybe if you lived a clean lifestyle you could live in a more realistic world. .
@@lynnkjjones7066 . I live a clean lifestyle, always have. What’s ridiculous is, being critical of someone’s lifestyle you have no knowledge of.
@@grumpygramps1451 Lynn hasn't got a clue
The police have one purpose in life, to sucessfuprosecute as many people as possible. They are not on our side. The old bill have been pulling the wool over people's eyes for years with PR stunts like Police Camera Action but essentially they see us as the enemy. That's why don't have any non-police friends and always look the other way when one of them is up to no good.
@@grumpygramps1451 What's ridiculous is painting all police with the same brush. Like saying all old grumpy men are senile. I hope you don't teach your grandkids how to be disrespectful.
If you've done nothing wrong you have nothing to worry about? Yeah, right. Tell that to the Birmingham 6.
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The Guildford 4 also
@@DaBriars Indeed, and many more that didn't make headlines.
@Mark Weaver Yes! Although his wrongful conviction was largely police incompetence rather than an outright fit-up.
Renault 5.
Many years ago i was called in for a police "interview regarding an RTA that I had, alledgedly, caused. I insisted that I wrote my statement but the officer told me that it was better that he wrote it because his handwriting was more ligible than mine. During the talk I learnt that a staionary bus that I was overtaking had pulled out and then moved back in hitting a bollard and that I had been the cause of that. My defence was that as I was overtaking a stationary vehicle it should have remained stationary until I had passed it, don't forget the rule of the left in the UK. I further added that I did not stop because I was unaware that there had been an accident. the statement mentioned nothing about my comment on the rule of the left, which I believe is part of the Road Traffic act and he had written that I was not awarethat I HAD CAUSED an accident. When they handed me the statement i wrote on the bottom that I refuse to sign it as I had been denied to write my own statement and that the written version was not the true statement that I had made. The Inspector told me that I had to sign it so I told him to bring in his Superintendant. Of course that was the end of that and two weeks later I received a letter from the Chief Superintendant's office of that district informing me that there were no charges against me.
Oh and when i saw his writing it was as if a 12 year old schoolboy had written it.
@@Xiapete I was immediately suspicious when he wouldn't let me write my own statement, his excuse was lame as I have had a grammar school education and presumed that was not the case for him.
Colin Paterson.
I've had similar on two occasions but not as serious as yours.
The police were unhappy when I refused to sign a statement at the bottom of the sheet of paper but would only sign at the end of the statement as written, but I got my way.
In another case I refused to give a statement unless I was given a copy of the hand written statement at the time, that didn't go down well but again I got my wish as they wanted a statement. The statement was incorrectly typed up to the benefit of the accused and I wouldn't have known if I hadn't insisted on the hand written copy.
Some would recommend initialling every line or gap so nothing can be inserted at a later date. Not that they would of course, our police are wonderful. Hhmmm!
I had similar re a theft from a shop I worked in. They had written that I had recognised the thieves , I refused to sign it and told them that was not what I had seen. They were not happy but I couldn’t care less,they literally kicked me out the station.
The process as described is certainly disquieting, not least because it's a minor "failing to stop/report
an accident (damage only?) occurrence - no more. Police enquiries would then have been merely to
enquire into it and to establish WHAT anyone who supposedly "failed to stop" had to say. Failing
to stop involves having knowledge of an accident with the legal requirement to stop and exchange
details on demand - or failing to report it to police thereafter according to circumstances. The
evidence may indicate that the driver of a vehicle that had failed to stop should have known of the
accident. After being given an initial report of such an accident, police on enquiry would have
interviewed the suspected driver/owner about the allegation based on the report they had - and the
circumstances - to allow him/her the opportunity to put their side of the story. There seems little
point in an enquiring officer being partial in any respect since it involves two parties giving their
sides of the story in a mundane every day traffic matter in which circumstances and actions can
be explained before any court proceedings need commence. In this case, it seems that there
was insufficient evidence to show that there was "knowledge" of an accident having occurred and
No Further Action by police was decided.
Very true. Innocent or guilty, if you speak you are likely to convict yourself. Remember that. INNOCENT OR GUILTY - it makes no difference. The ONLY way to respond, in my opinion - unless you are clearly not involved and simply being interviewed as a witness to something - is to make no comment at all. It is not even necessary to say "no comment". Just keep your mouth shut.
Well said: just the words "No comment," when the interview recording is played to a jury, can be damning - makes an interviewee appear cocky, like a hardened criminal. But... it"s easier said than done. Just remember these five words: NEVER TALK TO THE POLICE.
It WASN'T necessary to say "no comment" or anything else, now it kinda is (see Salinas vs Texas case). Even being silent now can be used as an admission of guilt in court, unfortunately. The only good-ish way to get out of the situation is to pledge the 6th, which means asking for a lawyer present and saying nothing more besides that.
@@ZwiekszoneRyzyko A case in America won't affect a case in the UK though.
@@ZwiekszoneRyzyko we also need to invoke the 5th, and inform them that we won't answer questions
even as a witness it's in your better interest(s) to have your attorney present during any questioning
Thank you.
Essential information for every British citizen.
A few years ago I would have dismissed this as paranoid and yet today I would never speak to the police without legal assistance. So very sad. When did we cease to be policed with our consent?
when was our consent ever sought..?
We NEVER were. Who in their right mind would consent to being Policed and surveiled.
@@robertdore9592 well to a degree we did consent to being policed in the uk and the relationship was sound for many decades. The relationship has become more dysfunctional only in recent years especially in the more urban areas. This is why the police were a largely unarmed force in the uk. The relationship has deteriorated and we now find that much of the force is armed.
It would be interesting to examine the exact mechanism of the consent and how it might be withdrawn.
As to the surveillance, we agreed to that in order to enable us to be safer and as we know, those who relinquish freedoms in return for safety pretty soon have neither.
We must ensure that we keep control of trial by jury as it represents our last constitutional avenue to dismantle an over grown and hostile state.
Consent means voting for a Party that believes in law and order .
The police have never policed with our consent. The police are Crown servants, not public servants .
My mum taught me all I need to deal with the Police. Say nothing, sign nothing, call me.
She was a QC. I got in trouble a couple of times. I probably should have talked to the police, because the bollockings I got off her was Richter 10 level stuff.
God rest her soul.
Amen.
So odd. As a casual in my teens I'd say I was scared of nobody and definitely not the police. Ex army now and teach martial arts. When my mother raises her voice at my two brothers and I we shut up and hide. I always told the police don't take me home 😂😂. My five foot five mother just stuck the head in me once. Never gave her cheek again 😁
Ozzy Osbourne used the term "bollocking" a lot in his book. I guess that means being struck there, figuratively and literally?
@@MisterMikeTexas It means to give someone a hell of a telling off, a major verbal reprimand.
@@MisterMikeTexasIt's hard to comprehend the insularity of Texas from the real world!
As a decent law abiding citizen who only needed help, and was the one who brought the police into a situation, I learnt all that has been said the very hard way. I would be very ashamed to be a police officer. No better than bastards.
@always right I truly don't understand your comment.
@always right For burglaries, right? I got it.
100% Agree with you, well said👏👏👏👏
Please don't lump bastards in with cops. Bastards are much nicer than that.
@@josephking6515 love your comment.
Children need this sort of advice during secondary school. Even play act situations so that they are not completely scared into confirming what may be suggested to them by the police.
Even middle school age. They should learn also about police stop, whether produce ID, give their name, consent to a search, etc. Whether to let Police in their car/home. All the things that BLM don’t teach, but should.
Have you ever wondered why LAW is NOT a school subject ? - just think what a mess the country would be in if it were - Sir Humphrey Appleby, Yes, Minister.
@@millomweb "Yes, Minister" and "Yes, Prime Minister"? Those shows were prophetic.
Do you really think it appropriate that state-funded schooling should teach pupils how to flummox the state police?😂 It would be better to have classes teaching pupils how to follow the law and not get involved in disputes. For example anger-management role-plays, where one side just walks away from trouble and ignores the "red-mist" (boundary disputes with neighbours, road rage etc).
How about state schools also teaching pupils how to minimise tax liabilities?😂😂 Or how to look after their money wisely and not to blow it on mindless consumer-spending (which boosts GDP, essential to the survival of any government). Not going to happen.
We citizens are on our own, the government is not our friend, nor are its official paid henchmen. The government is there fundamentally to maintain the King on the throne. However HM Government does do us the invaluable service of maintaining law and order, so we should be grateful for the fact we can sleep in our beds peacefully, one hopes.
Rule #1: The Police are NOT your friend, act accordingly
When a police office lies... he's " just doing his job".
Agreed.
@@davidlathwell4880 Roy is speaking sarcastically.
99% of police are guilty of perjury, why are there never any charges put against them. ?. Simple they are a corrupt legal gang organised against the public that they are there to protect. Sanctioned by the residing Government you vote for. Well said Roy.
@@justintime1307 State sponsored. Both are as bent as a 6 " nail.
@@davidlathwell4880 The supreme court has determined that police are allowed to lie in the course of their duties.
I am a law abiding citizen and have no criminal record and used to have a lot of respect for the police but the way they carry on now especially during lockdown they have lost all my respect now.
You won't be calling them in an emergency then?
@@24694104 They wouldn´t come.
What doing their job and obeying the home secretary?
@@PhillRobinson Did the Home Secretsry tell them to go on their knees to violent Marxists ?
@@thepowerisinyou2886 Much more like the Soviet Union or East Germany. But they are never mentioned.
Very informative . How is it that the public , are generally not aware of this information ? Very much appreciated . Thank you .
They don't want you to know. The Police are not our friends and you cannot talk your way out of being arrested and charged but you can most certainly can talk your way into prison, do not say anything other than your name.
Kenneth, you are quite wrong. In general, thanks in large part to social media, the public are now very aware that many many police officers fall far below the standards that we were brought up as children to expect police officers to uphold. You SHOULD watch the videos by CRIMEBODGE here on UA-cam. NEVER talk to the police, they do not want to establish facts they want to twist them.
@@mobiusklein9140 Thank you for the wise words . makes me wonder why simple contract law. money management interest rates and police powers are not taught in schools so as to have a more informed and rational society . Thanks
Unfortunately some people can't afforded legal assistance £200 per hour some charge is the same with family law
Charge for waiting time in court
High phone call costs
Legal aid is harder to obtain
@@mobiusklein9140 CRIMEBODGE is very informative
Said plainly: The police will lie to you and mislead you. Remember that. And say nothing. "No comment."
No need to answer "no comment" to questions. Just sit there with a friendly absentminded smile on your face.
Don't say "no comment", say that you do not consent to being interviewed and that you're exercising your right to remain silent.
@@MACROPARTICLE AND your RIGHT to counsel, that’s all they will hear from me.
@@MACROPARTICLE In the USA, the right to remain silent is a given. In the UK, silence is interpreted as an indication of guilt.
How may you remain silent, if you have that big fat license plate attached to the front and back of your car? You give me someone's license plate value, I'll tell you how much money is in their bank account.
When you are in an interview room innocent or guilty the police are not your friends & they are not there to help you.
Don’t talk without a solicitor & keep your mouth shut “NO COMMENT!” Is your best friend & saviour
I would add stay away from duty solicitors especially at the hearing. In my case he new nothing about the case until he sat in front of me just before we went in. He got everything so wrong it felt like i had two prosecution lawyers.
This is actually by design, they have already decided. In fact you are better of defending yourself.
I was in court some years ago and my solicitor may as well not have been there 🤬
Just like here in the States with our public defenders. Sometimes even a high-priced defense attorney will throw their client's case because connections. That's obscene! 😡
Public pretender
@@mickthebandit. I take it you don't have a lot of money, or are on benifits ?... You have NO CHANCE now unless you can afford a good one who isn't too fat yet and still trying to get a job with the crown !!!
A solicitor once told me that many people imagine that the job of the police is to conduct an interview to find out the truth or probable truth of a situation and then decide whether or not to proceed with a prosecution. THIS IS NOT THE CASE, he said. What the police do is to find out if there is sufficient evidence to charge someone with an offence. Whether they do or don't believe in one's guilt or innocence is irrelevant to them. Always get a solicitor, because even being innocent and telling the truth can lead to you standing in the dock!
Always remember that, unless under oath in court, police are allowed to lie and often do.
In the States they lie under oath, too, even though they're not supposed to.
They lie in court also
They just can't stop
like being under oath makes a difference..?
what do you do if a public defender is all you can afford?
@@sallywilson3088 time
That police siren at the end was perfectly timed.
My father was falsely accused of damaging a car, the police interviewed my father
and charged him with causing criminal damage
We were lucky to find an excellent solicitor, who proved my father to be innocent in court.
The point i am trying to make is, if you are formaly interviewed by the police, always
ask for the duty solicitor if you don't have one.
My father was never the same after this, he had a heart condition, and passed away a few
months after the court hearing.
My opinion of the police is that all they want is you to confess to the alleged crime so
they can obtain a result.
This excellent video is great advice, don't say anything until you speak to a solicitor.
Aren’t duty solicitors notoriously poor?
@LOCATION_REDACTED yes they , luckily they agreed to wait until our own solicitor arrived. If you have to use the duty solicitor, find another asap.
never use the duty solicitor. Their duty is not to you!
That is a sad story, RIP to your dad
I was locked up once for a ridiculous incident and I am so glad (almost a fluke) that I asked for the duty solicitor. Without that solicitor I would have possibly been prosecuted- I was so out of my depth
As we say in Belfast, I'm saying nothing until I see my solicitor 🤣
Seriously though, wise words.
This is the right advise, and a similar situation for someone close to me. I advised him to have a solicitor before being interviewed. He took the advise but the police played it to him, like a tea party for him to give his variation on the complaint against him. It was just a smeer attempt from a neighbour, but for months later he was hounded by the police about accusations made by the same neighbour. So, i got him to make a complaint against the police for conduct and discrimination. He stopped getting hounded. There are these infringement laws that are very frivolously in the the justice system and it doesn’t really matter if it makes sense. I ask myself how many times people call the police about more serious crimes and the police either don’t do anything, or do little in respect to the initial complaint. Then they act on something that is trivia in the average persons way of thinking. in fact why do we need police?
Three most important things when dealing with plod for any reason
1 I want a solicitor
2 then do not speak
3 do not open your mouth
4 do not utter a word
Never use a Duty Solicitor!
That's four,
@@philhode5104 well spotted are you a copper 😂
@@jackmason4374 no im far to honest and descent, would not trust them as far as I could throw them,had very bad dealings with them,they will do whatever it takes to climb that greasy pole,bottom line....they have to get convictions if not there bosses wl want to know why
@@philhode5104 , he wrote the same advice twice so it is still only three important things i suppose.
Never, ever talk to the police: "I have no comment to make at this time. I will be happy to make a full written statement in due course, after consulting my legal representative."
Yes, and get them to put their questions in writing. They won't....
Right and take a lawyer as a consultant, never give him full power of attorney if you wanna stay free. In cases you have to empower a lawyer, be very specific over what you're giving him power, limit it to necessary things and never give up your rights to expercise them on the same matter along with him.
@@WillbkoolOr better you be the one asking them questions about their service to people.
They did it with me just as he said. Friendly phone call, made out like a cup of tea and biscuits chat. I could come any time suited me. I smelt a rat and got a solicitor. He coached me and sat next to me. As a law abiding citizen I had never had an experience like it. Just like on TV with a double tape recorder they tried everything to twist my words and trap me despite my innocence. Fortunately it got dropped but gave me health problems after. Never trust them as they are vile.
Probably the best description of this I’ve ever heard. “Not a common sense thing”. Normal Conversational standards do not apply. This should be taught in schools!
There is one unbreakable golden rule when dealing with police....
Say NOTHING absolutely NOTHING not even your name until you see a solicitor
Unless of course you are in a jurisdiction where you commit an offence unless you state your name and address when required by police.
Most jurisdictions I've checked require you to identify yourself upon request *if the police suspect* you've committed a crime, even when there's not enough evidence for an arrest.
The best thing is to say nothing until you get a solicitor with you .
The best thing is to say nothing. You don't need a solicitor until, perhaps you go to court. Even then, I wouldn't trust a solicitor to act in your best interests. They are 'officers' of the court first and foremost.
@@van-gabondramblinrose6398 Your man Martin Cray went to some trouble to assemble and deliver his professional legal advice. Then here in the comments we have a bunch of amateurs giving unprofessional advice, mostly anecdotal. Hilarious.
The Police are not our friends and you cannot talk your way out of being arrested and charged but you can most certainly can talk your way into prison, do not say anything other than your name.
And why exactly do you need to tell them your name
@@freddyflint3889 In New Zealand if a Police officer asks your name you must tell them or face arrest.
yep. you got the right to shut-up, anytime you wanna.'
Remember they are handing out heavy sentences for writing things on here, it is scanned for potential ‘hate’ or ‘racist’ type comments, UA-cam are not your friends either.
My answer 5 years ago is the same today. 'Go swivel' My respect for them has somewhat changed over the years from very little to none at all!
Thank you so very much for info
Martin Cray you:re such a sensible honest gentleman..just seen your video .thanks & Bless you
Keep safe
Very wise words ,,,,,as someone who has been at the mercy of the Polices biased questioning, I cam confirm that silence is always the best option
You’re obviously a very good man the world needs more people like you and less like the older crowd
I knew a man who could fall asleep wherever he happened to be....he did exactly that at the beginning of a police interview, apparently they left him to it.
This was fantastic. Incredibly smart and powerful advice here. For what it’s worth, I can vouch that every word is true. Thank you very much for putting this together.
This is such wise advice and reminds me of a case, over a decade ago now, when I thought I had merely been asked to call at the local police station to discuss some previous and totally mundane motoring matter. When I got there, it turned out to be a formal interview and the caution was read. Up until this point, there was no offer of any legal assistance but, knowing the little that I did, at that moment I suddenly remember the name of one of the best defence lawyers I knew in the county and said I wanted him to be present. The detective was clearly extremely shocked by this, not to say slightly annoyed - but, of course, was forced to go away and arrange this.
When it came to the actual interview - this was no discussion about a motoring offence but some completely trumped up notion of impersonating a police officer - a very serious matter indeed. Without the expert guidance I had from that criminal defence lawyer, I could’ve ended up in serious trouble.
As it happens - he and I walked away from the police station and enjoyed a pint together in the pub opposite. Matter closed.
I hope he bought the pint. IOn second thoughts itt would go on the bill anyway.
Wise Words from Martin, just make sure your Legal Counsel is also not incriminating you.
Some excellent observations.and insights. Thank you.
He missed the most important bit as a solicitor. "Just sign this legal aid form before we talk any further".
They don't actually make much from legal aid. That's why most of them are useless. If you are rich and can afford a top lawyer, your chances are far better - guilty or not.
@@johnriggs4929 apply for legal aid , be slow returning any documents, tie the courts system up with their own red tape . By the time they can sort it all out as they are so slow your court case will be over .lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You got a problem with people being paid for their services, what is it you do for a living?
Nice one, and We shall see how much we can screw out of it
@@collincovid6950 - Do you have a problem with people being paid for their services?
Over the years I replayed my "interview" hundreds of times. I hadn't committed a crime, but telling a federal agent a lie is a felony, EVEN if the truth was my own personal business, and divulging it would endanger me in the public setting I was in. What was my alternative? I could have put myself in danger by publicly exposing my bankroll, i.e., the cash on my person. Or, I could have remained silent, refusing to speak to the Federal Agents. That would have been the end of it and I would have been free to go on my way. But, I cooperated by answering. I didn't see the harm, the danger of talking when I was "innocent". My speech, my lie to protect a private fact, was not shown to be a hinderance to their inquires. THAT DIDN'T MATTER! Any lie is a felony, no matter how inconsequential.
Bottom line: I spoke to them without knowing how dangerous it was and having nothing to gain. I was ignorant of the law and I was not advised by the Feds that I could remain silent but if I spoke I had to tell the truth, however inconvenient, or be committing a felony. That info would have kept me silent and safe. But my wellbeing was not their goal. Their goal was to arrest someone for something to further their careers. If that arrest was for an inconsequential technicality, a harmless little white lie, it was still grounds for a FEDERAL CASE.
I cooperated when I could have kept my mouth shut, had my money stolen, and became a FELON. I had nothing to gain by talking, so why did I?
Iv watched several of these types of videos. This one of the best if not the best one. Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge and experience.
My experience of interviews has taught me NEVER to speak to the police without a solicitor present.
No comment will often be your best answer unless you are 100% certain that your answering their question honestly and openly will not result in action being taken against you.
Always remember they have years of trying and experience on their side. Your best option is to get someone with experience onto your side, and best way to do that is to request a solicitor to be present during any interviews.
Good luck.
The trouble is they give you a duty solicitor who only wants you to plead guilty.
Do not ever accept a duty solicitor. They work in conjunction with the police and courts and do not want to get into their bad books!, also their fee is limited and they need to spend as little time on your case as possible.
This is correct, Both the Police and the Solicitor will be Freemasons, its a no win situation.
@@Brightstarlivesteam Correct they will also be Freemasons they work as a team.
@@shonniebhida ...dont talk wet, you don`t know a thing.
This comment and the idiotic ones in reply to it is both a lie and also very stupid.
My wife is horrifically absent minded. Purses, passports, handbags, coats, cameras...all lost. I fear each day she walks out the door. One day she came back extremely late and explained she had been arrested for shoplifting. An item in her possession, she'd forgotten to pay. Trying to explain, the police were having none of it. "Admit you are guilty or you will be here a long time". I was so outraged I consulted a lawyer... who even named the interviewing officer..."was it...X?" Say nothing.
However if it’s a burglary, you get a crime number, shop lifting they are there in a flash. Get the shops to bring a private prosecution!
really robert? i myself am going through this farcity of godhood power myself i would go into more detail but you never ever know who is watching ie!! you know who i mean" wink wink, nudge nudge".... .... p.s., how did you get on m8??
Hopefully she stopped being a moron afterwards.
I was innocent but the Interview at the station was to set me up to give me a Caution which will always be on my record
I'm not trying to be clever or facetious, but you are OFFERED a caution. If you don't accept it, the ball is back in their court & it would be up to them to either drop the matter or pursue you through more formal channels. The cautions are highly convenient for them & I am sure they play heavily on fear to get you to accept it. A good case in point showing why it is NOT a good idea, if at all possible, to engage with them, without having your solicitor right there with you.
There is your official criminal record, and something called the Nominal Record, which is never divulged by the police force. The Caution will stay on your nominal record, but will be "Spent" {removed from the official record) after 6 months if you are not arrested again. So if you apply for a job 7 months later and require a police check to get the job, your caution will not show up. Good luck.
@@mickymidnight1
You are correct but I was in a Distressed state, they asked me to sign a form about the Interview was taped correctly or something , I just signed and ready to go , then one of the police women said “ Do you know what you have signed , You just signed the caution sheet “ !
I then told them I want that form ripped up, the then told me we can’t do that .I got to IPC who sent me a Copy of the Tape Recoding Declaring My Innocence , Which I still have , up until this Morning I have always believed the Caution of some serious thing made up by is on my records , since 2006 and always worried if I went for a Job it will kick back at me ,
@@nhhdjdhdj6496
Thanks
I ever knew that
I had the same thing , voluntary interview , it did get interviewed and was cautioned . I went in denied emphatically what was said.
No investigation came of it and case closed. The Police officer was a very experienced officer who said himself there was nothing to the case. However the whole things was scary. The Solicitor shook my hand and said it was a pleasure to represent someone who was innocent . It was clear to him and said to me he will tell the police this is clearly a set up from the start .
ALWAYS have a solicitor who is experienced. You have given awesome advice
In the USA , 1st: tell police you are invoking your right to remain silent 2nd: demand to contact an attorney immediately and 3rd: REMAIN SILENT !!!
Plead the 5th aswell 😅
IN February, in the High Court in Cardiff, (Neale v DPP (2021)) It was confirmed that you have a right to remain silent and not answer any question and that the police cannot arrest or charge you with wilful obstruction for not answering questions. Never accept the duty Solicitor and keep you lip firmly shut. If you say nothing then they have no evidence. The only part or the caution that is important is your right to remain silent. Do not speak to them at all!
Rice v. Connolly (1966) is an English legal precedent holding that there is no strict, general legal duty to assist a police officer prior to any possible arrest or caution, with even basic police enquiries nor to accompany the officer to a requested location.
@@benbuckley2540 - remaining silent is invoking the 5th amendment, cretin.
And, whatever you do, do not walk away from the police! 😀
@@caveatrotters3324 ask them if you're free to go
Something few people seem to be aware of is, regardless of whether or not they go on to charge you, (they didn't), the police will record any lie told about you and add it to an intelligence file. If you subsequently apply for a job that involves working with children or vulnerable adults, (nurse, football coach, police officer, traffic warden, bus conductor, piano teacher - you name it), this lie will be presented to your prospective employer on the the 'enhanced disclosure and barring certificate' you will be obliged to produce. Basically it means YOU WILL NOT GET A JOB until you have it removed. If you are already in one of these jobs you will be investigated by HR and have a good chance of being fired. Getting the slur removed can be a very expensive and difficult process. Please learn from my experience - until you have a solicitor KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT. And DO NOT ACCEPT THE DUTY SOLICITOR (HE/SHE IS A POLICE STOOGE).
Wish this sort of help had been around in the late 70,s when I was 15 and beaten and coherced by two CID into admitting to offences I had not commited
I can tell you my experience.
I finished work one afternoon 11 years ago. Knock at the door, the police.
We’d had some burglaries in the street recently so I thought they were at my place to ask about that, if I’d seen or heard anything etc?
I let them in.
They asked if I knew Mr H and Ms R.
I said yes, that’s my husband and the bint he ran away with.
The female officer under her breath said oh shit. The male officer said have you had any contact with them lately. I said yes.
They then asked for my phone and laptop.
They said they were here to arrest me. I started laughing thinking it was a joke. At the time, I was 46, never broken any rules or had any issues w/ police.
They took me to Hammersmith police station.
They took my coat from me, fingerprinted me, dna tested me, photographed me then put me in a cell for 7 hours.
They then put me in the back of a police van with a little cell in it and took me to Holborn police station. They said detectives were going to interview me. It’s about midnight now and I still have no idea what they’re talking about.
They found me a duty solicitor and we were put in a room to wait for a detective.
He came in and said I’m being charged with malicious communication because of messages I’ve sent my now ex husband and the bint.
I said ok. Told him exactly what I’d said. Told him about the split up. How the ex cleaned out accounts, charged things to my cc, hacked his daughters Facebook, cancelled paying for her graduation trip, sent his son home early from holiday so he could hang out w/ the bint, constant torment from him via phone and computer (I screenshot everything), how the ex cut off the utilities and council tax, lied to the solicitor….I talked non stop for 2 hours.
He then went away for a bit.
He came back and said they were holding my phone and laptop for forensic examination. I could collect them in 2 weeks.
He said it appears as though my ex was very selective in what he’d told them and less than forthcoming w/ the truth, his exact words.
The duty solicitor said I’d been stitched up like a kipper!
The duty solicitor dropped me home at 4am.
I was told to come back in 2 weeks and collect my things and in the meantime have no contact w/ my ex.
I returned 2 weeks later to pick up my stuff and see if I was being charged.
The sergeant at the desk told me I was not being charged. Another detective told me stay as far away from that man, my ex, as I possibly could.
I then had to go to another police station to pick up my things as they weren’t at Holborn.
A few days later I got an envelope in the post from the OIC with info on womens refuges and domestic violence.
The whole thing was an absolute nightmare I wouldn’t wish on anyone.
The police at Hammersmith treated me like I was a murderer or hardened criminals, so nasty. The one who took my fingerprints shoved my hands around and was so mean to me, I was so upset but they did care at all.
The police at Holborn were very nice and respectful.
BUT the whole system is bullshit.
I was arrested simply based on what my psycho ex had said.
I had an arrest on my record for 7 years before it was removed. That meant I had to disclose the arrest at work and on official things. It didn’t affect me too much as far as employment went but I see how it could adversely affect someone.
My ex did everything he could to destroy me, even though he’s the one who cheated and left and cleaned out the bank accounts and lied.
What I do know now is, despite me spilling my guts and rambling on for 2 hours about every small detail and how the truth worked in my favour, I completely lost respect for the police. I don’t trust them. I’m scared of them now, where once I had full faith and they would be who I turned to in times of trouble or need, now id look for alternative resources or rely on myself.
The police are NOT there to help you.
If they want to talk - make an appointment like everyone else!
Like it.... make an appointment
Make an appointment and bill them for time
This is why when a police officer approaches you in the street, and tries to start a conversation with you, thats an interview because he/she is only Intrested in gathering info & finding guilt, don't answer any questions if you know you have done nothing wrong, no name no nothing, they've got nothing to start with only suspicion (usually), don't give them any rope by answering their questions, because they'll twist & turn everything.
If in doubt say nowt.
Many years ago, I spoke to a man who in his youth committed a minor driving offence. He went to court, didn't bother with a solicitor. He said that the arresting officer's told a series of lies,and as a result he faced a much higher fine and a driving ban. He saw the two cops smirking. He walked up and told them that as long as he lived he would never ever help a police officer"
. " If one evening I see some lads beating the shit out of a copper , I will just walk away"
Never forgotten that.
Magistrates, are just as bad , they will believe a policeman, over you!
'Great white judgment'. Rev.20:11-15 (KJV) PLEASE read.
PLEASE read PLEASE.
Very sound advice and not to be ignored, look at the sincerity in Mr Cray's face pleading don't do it alone.
This stuff should be taught in schools, such good advice.
Why would the state want that?
Sound advice. Thank you, Martin.
Thats rule number one, when you're in front of the custody suite the only things you say are who you are your date of birth, and yes to the question posed to you asking if you understand why you're in police custody, then the last thing you request is your phone call to the duty solicitor then you keep stumm until your solicitor arrives and speak only to him or her. Above all keep your shit together as from experience years ago for minor issues duty solicitors can take an age to turn up.
When i was a kid the local "lads" used to call police "the filth" , i always thought that was a bit harsh but after attending a couple of peaceful marches in London im starting to think they are right.
Love how this is put, and we should memorize this. Having dealt with the police I learnt, very quickly where they were coming from, twisters, who try to gain your confidence so that you accidently incriminate yourself, even though you have done nothing wrong.
I have learnt a great deal, over the years, on how to deal with police officers, that have sought to arrest me, and they have gone away with their tails between their legs. However, I have had to use a solicitor in one case, then had to dismiss him because he was simply not interested in doing any work. The second solicitor was genuine and we ripped the police in shreds. Good solicitors are valuable, and when you have one you have a gem
Fear is why you feel you need to speak, if nothing is spoken into the field of existing existence then it does not exist. They know this now you do each is creating the reality.❤
Whistleblowers in the force speak of systematic corruption.
First remain completely silent. If you feel under stress say " I can smell alcohol, have you been drinking today? Or "Your pupils appear fixed and dilated have you taken anything you shouldn't have." That will get right up there nose, especially if they have been.
Yeah first someone drives in front of you spraying chemicals up your front and when your pupills are fixed you will be pulled over by the cops
you truly don't know the way it works?
C'mon Man
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@@fuggoff5277 This video is about a police interview in the station not at the side of the road. My suggestions are to put them off their stride and divert the attention away from yourself. Not sure what you mean by chemical spray.
Have you tried that? The police officers I have dealt with would certainly make you pay for remarks like that, one way or another. These thugs are wearing the blue uniforms and that's all the edge they need to feel confident enough to use the upper hand as they see fit. The police force nowadays is populated by poorly educated, aggressive, even psychotic misfits who, by and large, are useless to the human race and have ended up in the police force because of that.
Bad idea to poke the police. Stay professional and respectfull
If you’re guilty, you need a solicitor. If you’re innocent, you _really_ need a solicitor.
I was locked up once and without the duty solicitor I would have been utterly screwed. If you are locked up get the duty solicitor to help you before you talk to the police officers
Police officers tend to plead amnesia when fielding potentially incriminating questions, this approach minimises the risk of self incrimination and avoids the negative inference associated with a 'no comment' reply.
iF YOU HAVE NO PATIENCE or are not prepared to sit it out, very calmly and quietly, in a box of concrete and steel, get help immediately. This is a game, and the language alien.
the old bill are also very good at lying ,falsifying evidence ,cheating ,being corrupt, pressuring you into something .covering each others lies ,trying to be your friend, saying its just a few friendly questions. making up there own laws as they go along
Thy are also old hands at cosying up to politicians.
No senior copper gets done for kiddy-fiddling, just like their mates in Westminster.
@@wuffothewonderdog totally agree with you
Check out Alex Belfield's youtubes for agreement for this.
The Golden Rule is "Never Never Ever" say anything in a Police Interview or make any statement without first speaking to known competent Solicitor ? Never let the Police provide you with a Solicitor, or suggest the Duty solicitor at a police station? 🙄 Choose your own solicitor and get his professional advice before any interview begins 😉👍
He is absolutely spot on with his advice. Anything you might say can and WILL BE used against you at a later point. I was arrested after a false allegation was made against me. I was detained in a cold cell overnight and not interviewed until late the next day after very little sleep. Although the CPS decided not to prosecute 6 months later my entire life was turned upside down over that time. I am a guy who has lived his entire life always trying to do the right thing. None of that counts once you are in an interview room. It is absolutely naive to believe that the police are there to protect the innocent.
Listen to this gentleman. Excellent advice.
Rule 1: Say nothing
Rule 2: Never trust or help a UK policeman - either at the station/in interview or out on the street.
spot on
So Smallpiece, tell us what criminal convictions you have as clearly you do ..😂😂
@@Cymruohyd I was trained in the Russian military to handle American or British interrogation .
@@Cymruohyd Jumping to conclusions there much ??
The Police are not our friends and you cannot talk your way out of being arrested and charged but you can most certainly can talk your way into prison, do not say anything other than your name.
I knew someone who was called in to talk , they pointed at a cctv image and said do you know the man in the grainy image , he said yes I work with him its Dave from work I am his boss , they concluded the interview immediately thats all they wanted as the image wasn't good enough on its own but the identification form a work boss was enough to send him to jail for 6 months
thats exactly what im going through at this exact moment in january 2022!!!!!!!! i swear on my beloved mothers grave, i will take it all the way............. fuking scum thats all they are..
Thank you. As a law abiding citizen I never felt distrust of the police until various recent events. It is very sad that they have lost our trust.
It's funny that this very precient video should pop-up on our feeds now, just when so many innocent people, unaware of the pitfalls of police interrogations and of court processes, wrongly pled "guilty" to serious crimes. Those poor people were TRICKED into pleading guilty, when they were utterly free of any criminal guilt whatsoever.
I was denied a solicitor, then screamed at for hours on end, then slapped about, that was about 30 years ago in the UK,
Net Tint Roller It's relevant now because the young new policeman sitting in on this 'interview' has this experience to draw upon. Sure there are guidelines, codes of practice and PACE, but that once young policeman is now coming up for retirement and remembers when all the red tape didn't get in the way of 'good old police tactics. And he's the one doing the manipulation today. There, I said it.
the same as being married lol
@Net Tint Roller Just the same as women can bring charges against some bloke 30 odd years down the line after a a random party with zero evidence.
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Yeah, but a wife has a legal right to do your head in.
It's called a marriage certificate.
Do mean England? Different countries in the UK have different police forces.
if your asked to interview, say no thank you. They have no evidence and are fishig, otherwise they would have arrested you.
27 bent coppers voted this down !
150 now😂😂😂
I was never in trouble with the police so this is fantastic advice to people like me so I'm not taken advantage of by the police in the event of something happening
Very sharp in the way of asking the questions so as to incriminate you but very stupid and stubborn when facing someone who knows it's rights and how to protects itself from these sneaky tactics of self incrimination. Public servants ? No. Publicly Owned Lawless Institution Comiting Extorsion.
Superb work, thanks very much, I never knew any of that. Take care and stay safe.