Is Blitzkrieg BETTER than Company of Heroes 3?
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- Опубліковано 26 чер 2024
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Blitzkrieg for Company of Heroes has been around for a while, and at one point was considered the best way to play COH1. Is that still the case?
00:00 Intro
01:53 What is Blitzkrieg
07:31 Do I like Blitzkrieg
12:11 Conclusions
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Thank you man for this topic. Still playing in the Blitzkrieg mod since he was released and it's the best experience that COH can propose.
It's a shame that Relic took nothing from the Blitzkrieg mod to COH3.
Europe at War in my opinion is better then Blitzkreig as you get an extra campaign, able to play all the campaigns and all the other parts without being to high in the lethality level.
I agree however in my experience it crashes from time to time which is why I play back to basics I feel like it plays similar but isn't as crazy with option's so you don't get overwhelmed it still has more then base game. AI is very smart definitely wouldn't play anything higher then easy
@@Long_Fang yes i have experienced a higher rate of crashes with EaW though it is still rare. As such i dont mind as much as i may other.
EaW war is fun but still has its problems, the AI needs some work (AI seems to be working on 1 side only depending on maps) the crash like the others said and American defensive position are op.
europe at war balance is what makes people play blitzkrieg instead.
R.I.P. Europe at War
Well, speaking of mods like this, next in line should be Wikinger for CoH2. It's basically almost the same mod as Blitzkrieg with realistic vehicle damage, fast dying infantry, new doctrines, etc. BUT thanks to the more modern solutions in CoH2, this type of mod works much better. Infantry can focus on combat, because points are captured passively, Units are smarter, so they are less likely to die for a moment of inattention, vehicles move less to bump into each other and the addition of reverse gear makes it much easier to operate them, and the damage model itself makes you lose a vehicle less often from the invisible AT. Unfortunately, performance problems are also noticeable here, but in general I highly recommend it even for PvE.
I think this is one of the best ways to experience CoH right now, because CoH1 is so damn outdated, CoH2 suffers from aggressive microtransactions and veteran occupied servers, and CoH3.. let's not talk about CoH3.. It will be better this way
Since installing Wikinger, I haven't played the base game once. :v
I'll check it out, thanks :)
I'd recommend to also try Ironside mod(formerly Spearhead).
It is also a realistic mod, that changes a lot of things in game, adding units, commander, and changing the gameplay for every faction.
I personally prefer Spearhead but my problem with all CoH2 mods is that for some technicaly reasons there are no Custom models in them, unlike in CoH1. I remeber that there used to be even Star Wars mod, but in CoH2 you have to stick with in game resources (considering that the same happened with Total War series, I suspect Sega influence here)
To be completely honest, I only tested Spearhead for like 3 hours, but I didn't like it very much. It has a very strange feel, some units literally have 1hp which is a gross exaggeration, and the gigantic range of the weapon is not balanced by the poor line of sight. When I tested (About a year ago) it was also very buggy, and there was virtually no balance. *That's just my opinion of course* but I feel like Spearhead is a weirder, less lovable Wikinger brother.
As for mods and models, it is indeed a very strange situation. Saga definitely tries to fight mods by making it difficult to make them easily, while in the same time adding a Modding Hubs and Steamworkshop to the games XD
Developers swear that CoH3 will have a "huge modding community with easy access to all the tools you need", but interestingly, they never mentioned things like custom models, so it's very possible that once again modders will have to mess with mixing available models or shortening tank barrels with invisible textures so they don't accidentally make a better game than the developers...
But in such topics, I no longer trust neither Sega or Relic
@@zemek1234 Spearhead is an anti blob mod that over exaggerated the cover mechanic in COH2 and force you to use cover to cover or get rip to pieces by gun fire. So it isn't a weirder version of Wikinger, is mostly straight forward for what it does. Do you have prefect cover? you're good. Are you out of open? you're dead.
What I love about Blitzkrieg is that injects a heft dose of realism into the game. MGs will tear through whole squads in seconds just like in real life, meaning you have to utilize cover, you can't let your men get caught out in the open or they are dead. Infantry weapons dont do jack to any armored vehicles. The tanks being made of paper things is understandable from a gameplay perspective, but is somewhat true to real life depending on the gun in use and the target. For example anything with a 75mm (even the low velocity gun on the sherman) will blow through just about and smaller tank, half track, or armored car in a shot or two. While struggling against a panther or tiger (again depending the facing of the target and exactly which 75mm gun your shooting with). Historically infantry AT weapons were terrors to tank crew man, being able to ambush tanks while in cover was extremely effective
Also, I'd love to see you review Europe at war mod
The original CoH sat in my Steam library for years, and a month ago I decided to give it a go, after I watched your old video on CoH, actually. In strategy games I mostly play campaigns, sometimes - skirmish, never PvP. And CoH campaigns are good! Missions are varied and interesting, every side is different, and difficulty is fair. Also, I just love strategy games where you can get medals for completing objectives. Thanks for another great video highlighting a great classic RTS!
There is another mod for CoH that cane out around the time this mod did back in like 2009 called the battle of the bulge. It just recently got updated like a year ago and it totally reworks the game in a similar way to how blitzkrieg does, but vehicles don't feel so squishy. On top of that it adds a really cool supply mechanic similar to men kf war where tou have to keep ifantey and vehicles supplies with ammo and fuel. The command doctrines are also completely reworked to reflect the battle of the bulge. The points are also different in the sense that there are no cap points, but rather once you enter the secote you tou start capping it. If you are covering old CoH mods, or just want to tey slmething new, I'd love to see a review. Maybe check out Modern Combat? I'd also like to hear wjat you think about the Wikinger mod for CoH2. Turns it into a conpletely different game (for the better imo, mkre realism, unit variety, and historical command trees/units). Really liked the video and a lot of the points you made, never thought about it really reinforces the use of simple mechanics like cover
3:45 yes it is realistic that one dude with a panzerfaust can destroy practically any tank with a single shot. Tanks were surprisingly easy to destroy when confronted with anti tank weapons, especially when said weapons were concealed or used ambush tactics.
Bonus points if the right calibre of anti-tank weapon is used & the person aiming it has knowledge of the anatomy of a tank (ammo magazine, crew position, etc)
Yeah if you can hit them. Problem in real life is that ambushing a tank at 60 meters, which is the effective range of an average Panzerfaust, is fucking terrifying and not as easy as in a game. First you have to position yourself so that the tank will actually come to you, which might be easy at a bridge or other chokepoint, but will also mean the enemy will be a lot more careful when approaching, so you might just be shot by an infantryman that is patrolling infront, or blown to bits by a preliminary artillery strike. The second thing is to hold your nerve as a 30-40 ton Sherman bristling with machineguns, likely followed by 3-4 more Shermans and truckloads of infantry, rolls up towards you and not fire until you are within 60 meters. And then don't fucking miss, because if you do, good luck, you just exposed your position to a Sherman tank with 3 machineguns and a 75 mm gun that is out to get you.
In real life infantry firefights would involve firing hundreds to thousands of rounds for every enemy killed and tank engagements literally boiled down to who saw the enemy first and hit them.
That is correct but leaves out a lot of context, and the game was not designed around such damage values and range values. So that's why it looks so stupid in CoH and feels off.
why not just play men of war at that point
The problem with BK's PvE scene is not BK itself, it's the AI.
Play vs Expert AI and look at the resources at the end screen: AI gets up to triple your resources. They blatantly cheat.
I don't know how hard it is to make competent AI but BK consists of like 2 devs at this point, so this is more of a old Relic AI problem.
BK PvE is great for beginners on bridge maps and once you have gotten used to the speed, damage and general feel, you can move up to more open maps. That's what I did and depending on what mood I am in, I can choose easy bridge maps or all-out-brain-busting open maps.
In my experience with the mod, being able to edit the build limit for elite units was pretty fun, up to the point it became a performance issue instead.
I'm currently replaying the single player campaign using the Immersion 1944 mod.
Never heard of this, I should try it sometime
So glad i didn't delete my moddb files all this time. I have the 4.8.6 full along with the 4.8.8 patch and the Modern Combat mod 1.019. wonder what happened to that one.
Hey zade! I also highly recommended trying out the europe at war mod for COH1, please give it a go, I also like blitzkrieg, but europe at war is in my opinion the peak coh experience, the mod not only changes the game as a whole, but it also adds a new campaign, the ardennes offensive, with 6 new missions, 5 of them being reskined and changed maps with new assets, and 1 being brand new, plus, I also really like the new mechanics and balance of the game, I cannot recommend it enough to at least try it out :D
blitzkrieg mod is not perfect. but it is the only mod with random lobbies poping up from time to time in multiplayer and is the better "realism" mod out there.
for vanilla lovers there's back to basic which adds very cool mechanics.
but im going to be honest... i'd rather play mowas2 (with mods), GoH or perhaps Mow2 when it's out.
Great video. The first COH is the only one I enjoyed, I despised 2 and made the switch to Men of War. Currently enjoying Gates of Hell and it's the best ww2 RTS I've played yet
not only is the game good, the modding scene is huge and they're making seriously impressive full overhaul mods. The game is now borderline unplayable if I don't have mods enabled since they're just so good xD
Dude same. People should enjoy things, but I never understood why people liked 2. 1 was an obsession of mine, and when I played 2, it just felt.....different. I never got into it. Just tried 20 minutes ago and still....its not as good as 1.
personally I prefer Europe at War
way better than blitzkrieg and it doesn't stutter/lags as much
Do you know if i can run this mod on my steam deck?
Also if i dare to compare, if people won't throw stones at me (idk people's stance on men of war series). This mod seems to make CoH more closer to realism and to men of war 2. In that game i recall that i have to plan every move and have every corner covered by all kinds of units to deter devastating attacks
I really hope they improve the modding tools for coh 3 so we can get a huge overhaul mod. I do agree that the realism stuff can be annoying, but I just love the variety of units and upgrades/abilities! It reminds me of ultimate apocalypse for DoW
Would you be able to make a video of "Top Co-op RTS Games" or maybe post it somewhere?
The mod is a SHADOW of its former self.
Blitzkrieg mod version 4.5 - 4.7 were the mod's peak. Almost perfect. It was peak damage lethality, peak variety, peak fun. Balance was real when stalemates could go on for hours.
The current mod hosts are not the same people and they jealously hid those versions on purpose. Good news is I found them on some obscure sites.
If anyone's interested I'm willing to give directions.
I played it a lot in the past and enjoyed it during a drought of interesting RTS games. You really have to be down for its gameplay loop of: Scout > Advance > Dig In which repeats until the match ends. Some guns have longer range than their view distance, but since the AI doesn't have to worry about fog of war, it puts them at an advantage you always have to keep in mind. If you're not constantly harassing their movements, they'll set up AT guns and mortars that will pick you off from inside the fog of war, which can get frustrating. I haven't tried the new versions, but even years ago I remember staying on an older version of the game because I didn't enjoy later content releases as much due to PvP balance changes.
"due to PvP balance changes."
Ironically, PVP was alot more fun and balanced in past versions.
What we have today are nerfs and buffs according to the whims of the current mod hosts who are probably the only people playing the mod now.
Take one look at the suppression-immune Combat Engineers ignoring MG fire and you'll know the mod is done. Good news is, the older versions (pre-4.7,4.8) can still be found.
The Eastern Front mod for CoH1 is the peak experience for the PvP aspect. Vanilla CoH would be a good experience for casuals who never play PvP.
Blitzkrieg mod is the best mod for COH, including 2 and 3. I still get back to it frequently.
Hey zade i saw your video that you posted 2 years ago, on if coh 2 was still nice to play in 2021, and i just have one question, im considering buying the all out war in eneba for 7 euros, there its pretty cheap i wanted to know if you consider it safe and if its worth it, it comes with this dlcs:
• The Company of Heroes 2 base game;
• Company of Heroes 2: The British Forces (DLC);
• Company of Heroes 2: Ardennes Assault (DLC);
• Company of Heroes 2: The Western Front Armies (DLC);
• All additional generals;
• Additional Soviet Campaign;
• All Theater of War chapters;
• Digital artbook;
• Digital soundtrack;
Hit me up with a response if you can ,thanks.
I Remember When I Installed Blitzkrieg Mod To Play Story Mode. Its Imposible To Compleate Mission 2 when Paratrooper need to build outpost on capture point but Paratrooper in Blitzkrieg cant build outpost. So i Delete Blitzkrieg and Install Europe At War Mods.
I completed it! It wasn’t hard I think you just had to use a different unit or skip it. I’ve gotten to mission 5 with no problems.
BK mod has been ruined like over a year ago. They changed mod teams. The original creator isn't working on it anymore. PvE isn't really working anymore, and campaign completely crashes.
All the mods for CoH 1 are great.
The modern combat mod available on steam is phenomenal also
I consider NHC mod a better way to play the game, you can make squads with all factions, there are some units and mechanics not in the game, you can play single player joint ops and the base mechanic are the same but you get more settings before starting a skirmish.
Oh, the vehicle squishiness is definitely realistic. A Panzerfaust or a Panzerschrek were weapons designed to knock out a tank in one hit, spraying molten metal into the interior, killing the crew or igniting the ammo. A hit to the side with any rocket-based anti-tank weapon of the period would result in most tanks either dying or being out of the fight. That's why it was so important to have infantry cover the tanks - the chances of you spotting a 16 yo Wilhelm sitting in a roadside bushwith a Panzerfaust while riding in a loud metal can were slim
I avoided it after hearing about the PvP focus and the removal of older versions, i can understand some of the points they are getting at since i am a mod developer and i know what its like trying to do tech help and troubleshooting old or broken installs or sorting out file miss/matches and sync errors for people trying to play multiplayer be it against bots or each other.
But from my experience having the option to role back is always appreciated by the community and the fact that you can role back versions of a mod to undo mistakes saves allot of development time that would otherwise be spent on making new content, PvE and PvP balance, optimization of assets and coding if you have the skilled staff to do it.
They could have just left the older versions up on modDB and let old fans sort it out but no. Good news is the older versions can still be found on some really obscure sites and many still have the installers on old hard drives.
how is Blitzkrieg for CoH2 ? different than Blitzkrieg for CoH or pretty much the same ?
thanks :)
haven't played it, so can't say unfortunately!
Ah, the blitzkrieg mod. I really don't like where it went personally, but to each their own.
If you like that mod, i would suggest giving europe at war a try, its basically blitzkrieg without the ability/unit bloat, "it still has a LOT of units" and a functioning "mostly" singleplayer campaign. The first mission never worked for me, but everything else worked just fine. "remember to use the launch command to unlock the campaign missions if you don't have a complete save for that reason." It also has multiple versions of the base armies that change based on the map you play, for example the Scheldt now has the allies using airborne armies, and quite a few maps are based around the north African theater.
Oh, and before i forget, my thoughts on blitzkrieg are that the developer added WAY too many abilities, and quite a few units still feel like they are just there to be there, rather than serving any purpose in their respective army. Sure, its fun to have jeeps, but why bother when the armored jeep with a 50 cal is bullet proof? Or when scouts can do the scouting thing far better, for far less of a risk, while also still being able to do things like camouflage, and capture by default?
It didn't go the way i wanted, or even expected really, so if i ever feel like playing that kind of company of heroes i just download europe at war again, those are my thoughts on blitzkrieg having played it on and off since i first heard about it about 5 or so years ago.
In this mod i much prefer artillery than tanks.
Hey if anyone reading this used to play blitz mod or is thinking of playing please please come and join us.
There is still a loyal player base everyday but we need a few more people to bulk the numbers up.
Its on steam for easy download.
ngl i really hope i manage to get a good pc to play this game with mods (i have it in mobile right now)
I would argue that the strengths of CoH are not hightened by making it more realistic, at least personally the game is better when it's less realistic and it's more about cover and smart play as opposed to real life 1 hit kills across the map
Gimme those bright tanks with colours on, big explosions and general chaos
Different strokes for different folks~ CoH where vehicles are actually scary is great fun. Can't just bumrush anything and everything with anti-vehicle inf.
the reason why i dont play realistic mods is because it leds to slower and more tedious gameplay instead of more action focused and fair fights
I've completely forgot about CoH 3....
i miss the old airstrike from the usa it was awesome but no more in i t how to get ?? someone knows
most of the remaining matches online are done with blitzkrieg if that says anything, i guess we like suffering? it adds more units, which we like lol
I think what I like so much about this mod (despite the game's age and AI's petty bullshit) is how it doesn't feel like CoH 2 and 3, where you might as well have pop-up damage numbers when units engage.
In BK it feels like a shot's being fired and if it hits, it wounds or kills. Wikinger for CoH 2 didn't convey the same feeling for me, sadly, so I am still playing BK and enjoying the hell out of it.
...until the Panzer 3 N rolls in and absolutely demolishes everything I have, lol.
Also, with the HD Textures, this game still looks amazing. It's 17 (!!) years old and still holds up. Love the artstyle and prefer the grimier, more washed out colours to CoH 2 and 3. They feel too cartoony to me.
Awesome mod, too bad it doesn't work for the campaigns. That's why I prefer Europe at War.
Try Immersion 1944 for that.
@@Matthew-vw9dm yeah but realistic damage hasn't been implemented yet in that mod.
Invasion of Normandy campaign works as intended in Bk mod
@@dimitrisoikonomou3568 Well you may be right, I haven't played BK in a long time. Last I played, some if not all of the campaigns are broken with the mod. Haven't read any campaign updates in the changelogs on steam either.
All Relic had to do was look at what mods the community made and is playing and enjoying and do that, just better. But no, they had to go and reinvent the wheel (both with the Dawn of War series and CoH). And they managed to make a square wheel. Bruh...
Still playing it with from time to time and its still best CoH, i don t know why they don't update game as same version on forum, i think steam one is outdated by few patches.
they dont patch it much because of the many negative reviews they got. at one point the developers would attack anyone on the discussions page who said something didnt work or if they didnt like something. they started banning people from the forums and even requesting vac bans for those who gave bad reviews
I think CoH overall is not a realistic game and it never paired too good with realism mods at least in my opinion. I just played Blitzkrieg for all the new units. But if I want a more realistic WW2 rts I play Men of War.
If you want realism just try the sudden strike series its what Pioneered the road for MOW and COH
Europe at war is a mod ive spent over 400h playing. Amazing and imo much better than blitzkrieg
It's a yes for me until my Tiger II gets killed by a 17 Pounder that I missed/has camo.
i find it and still 1 of the funniest/cool way to play COH blitzkrieg or Europe at War(again) you can make more choises from infantry to tanks
🤘😂😎
Blitzkreig mod is amazing! But it is a little over complicated, there isn't much of an online scene, the AI isn't adapted for it, and I've played it to death. Secretly I was hoping CoH3 would be Blitzkreig mod with new graphics.
The problem is with the limitation of the graphics engine, which causes problems with the performance of the game.
Nice
If you read ww2 hstory tanks did get knocked out quickly. The mod makes you use recon to spot infantry& AT & use combined arms as you said. I find if I read history & use ww2 tactics it works well & there are heavy casualties.
You want a good COH blitzkrieg experience ? CALL TO ARMS GATES OF HELL !
I've been toying with getting CTA:GoH for about a year, but never end up doing it. I've been playing Blitzkrieg Mod for years and now only really play vs Ai or co-op. GoH worth it for that kind of semi-chilled out gameplay?
You should check out Jurassic World Evolution 2, so much has changed so you should definitely check the game out again and sandbox is so much better, so is the game in general. Almost every bug is fixed, there dozens of great DLC’s and expansion packs that make the game so much better to look at and play, more campaigns, Dino’s, new Biomes, you can fast forward the game or slow it down, and a free update every three months.
The game is still very hard with all the research and scientist, but the game has 100% improved from when it came out.
8:50 GIT GUD. No but seriously in open maps (Goodwood for example) against Hard/Expert AI there are some things you HAVE TO DO in order to have a fighting chance. I only play 3v3 and 4v4 on Hard/Expert.
Study the map, capture as much as possible early game, and then create a fallback line at 1/3 of the maps length, while also locking down FUEL points(if this is not achieved you will lose 100%). That means close HQ/Medic stations with officers for retreating and heavy AT guns with MG nests covering them. Engineers for repairs and mobile medic unit for replenishing weapons crews. WATCH FOR MORTARS/NEBELS/CALLIOPES and kill them asap. You have to withstand the initial gimp zerg rush of shitty Panzer IIIs or Shermans and grind XP until you unlock better tanks. That's where babysitting your AT crews is most important since its the best way to stop enemy vehicle spam.
Then its just a question of micromanaging your superior tank fleet(always with tank commanders) with alot of advancing-reversing, LOTS of repairs, with infantry(or anti-infantry vehicles like the Quad .50cal, autocannon Crusader) hiding in the back to kill enemy Panzerschrek/Bazooka teams and capture points.
PS: NEVER QUIT, I have turned around 2-hr long games where my side was getting ass blasted for 70% of the game, but by being stubborn and managing to crack the enemy wall of shitty vehicle spam and MGs you will find that its the best feeling ever. Its the closest thing to actual combat PTSD you can get during peacetime..
CoH should learn from Men of War. CoH fell to the Total War curse.
I think you forgot to update the description, it's the one from AOE2 Return of Rome.
That being said, Blitzkrieg mod seems interesting, I'll give it a try next time I install CoH.
Ahhh Blitzkrieg.. I have been playing it since I was in middle school and now I'm 26. Honestly at this point I just play PvE Blitzkrieg all the time, 3v3 or 4v4 only. British and Panzer Elite are the most interesting factions while the US is the most powerful bc of Sherman spam in the armour doctrine.
I absolutely love the the fact that squads kill things at a speed that would be believable in real life as well. No more blobs of gimps running with rifles two metres apart and taking half a minute for them to kill one another. Also tanks are much more realistic. A King Tiger/Pershing will 1/2 shot a Sherman/PzIV as it should, while also Shermans with 76mm guns can take down Tigers in 2-3 shots with AP or 3-5 shots with normal rounds AS THEY SHOULD. FFS no more having four Shermans shoot a dozen shells in a Tiger's sides or ass from 10 meters away and bouncing half of them.
Also fast TTK with infantry makes you focus ALOT more on fast medical care and reinforcements. Fall back points with officers, medic trucks(super useful for MG/Cannon crews), forward HQ's with aid stations, gliders and so on are the difference of getting stomped by an enemy zerg rush, or having constant pressure on the enemy with continuous reinforcement.
Lastly, officer/tank commanders are also much more important with their accuracy and range buffs, while weapon upgrades for infantry actually make you think about what you're facing. In open maps, Brit squads with double Brens and a Lieutenant, or Panzergrenadiers with MG42 + double G43s are kings, while on maps with alot of buildings, Commandos, Combat Sappers (double flamethrowers), PzGrenadiers with double STG44s, and Paratroopers
are best bets..
Any new players that play this mod do not just rush your troops into the enemy they will gun you down in seconds
so the mod called "blitzkrieg" is about turtling?
~huh. Ironic
Only if you play against AI or if you are dumb and play with people that play Scheldt and Achelous river all the time. Still, every doctrine has artillery of some capacity and pretty much makes them rage quit if you kill their stuff.
Def recommend, this is what i wanted always from COH franchise.
Blitzkrieg Mod was 100 times better years ago, however some other developers took over and made it way too PVP focused.
One huge thing they removed is, that tanks are firing automatically on Infantry, terrible decision. Also the lethality went over board a bit too much in my opinion, was better in the past.
Yet CoH 1 with or without mods is so much better than CoH 3 (which is kinda dead already).
ps. wrong description: "Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition - Return of Rome is here.... and it's not exactly what I was hoping for. While it might be what some people are after, for me, this seems like a missed opportunity." ;)
They made it so that tanks fire their gun to the intended target, which means that a 75mm Sherman with AP will prioritize vehicles and use its .50cal for infantry, while if you load HE shells, it will prioritize infantry instead of vehicles. I don't see how that's a bad change, AP shells were already very bad against infantry and it meant that you couldn't charge at an enemy tank if your tank wasted your shot into some infantry while your enemies are about to shoot at you first...
@@dimitrisoikonomou3568 IT is a bad change for people who don't play competitive, this change made the game alot more micro heavy.
@@R4ZORLIGHT The mode was made for PvP... Play Europe at War
@@dimitrisoikonomou3568 No it wasn't made for PVP in the first place.
PVP was fine for the older versions. It's just that they made it more micro-heavy whereas good positioning was more important in the past.
When you carelessly send infantry into an MG ambush, they get chewed up quickly. Right now, they could just dance around the MG and throw a grenade. It's just Starcraft now.
Hey there Zade, as someone that actually recommended you to cover Bk mod in a video. I have a few things to tell you regarding the mod:
1. The reason why they don't support different versions of the mod is because previous iterations of the mod had more "bullshit" on them that made good players extremely effective while weak players were dead weight to their team. Such "bullshit" were:
- The defense doctrine and it's bunkers and Artillery that are the best in the game.
-Terror doctrine that was the best doctrine in the game.
-The Luftwaffe doctrine that gave you the best infantry in the game for only MP cost (they had the best weapons from the start) plus OP as fuck airstrikes.
-SAS squads were by far the best infantry units in the game and were unkillable after getting every training in the commando tree.
- Hit and Run tactics made every Allied tank destroyer one shot even Tigers from ambush. People that support previous versions want to play funnel maps against bots and this mod was not meant for PVE.
2. What Bk does to the extreme is promote good play (good micro, combined arms, weapon logic (SMG beats bolt action rifle up close, no matter the veterancy or unit cost) opportunities, information gathering, cover ...) while punishing bad plays and bad logic.
3. It's bots are bad because they were meant for warm up for PVP, their logic, cheat resources and tactics of just rushing you don't let the best things about this mod shine. People make mistakes and don't know your next move, the computer knows what you have and what you will do before you do it.
3. Performance can be fixed if you lower certain graphic options. Also the game tries to keep up with everyone, so if someone's internet or PC sucks ass or has way too high graphics, it lags the game, it's a 17 year old game after all...it cannot process such high end machines.
All in all, if you play Bk for the PVE, it's like you make french fries at home using a casserole. You can still do it, but why, it wasn't designed for that... I am willing to guide you into PvP Bk if you wish to give it a second chance.
Some popular Bk PVP channels are:
1. Tarakancheg
2. Krieger Blitzer (or Tiger as he is known in the community) and
3. Eagle (also posts games from time to time, he is new to Bk and plays with Tiger).
objectivly best ww2 rts still...(mean bk mod ofc, not the regular coh)
i prefer the europe at war mod.
I would disagree with statement about damage system for tanks. Tanks are not geting killed ez with faust since faust range is to low compared to tanks ranges with HE rounds. You can drive backwards and shoot infantry with tank and infantry will not get your tank since it has more firing range then handheld anti tank weapons. But yeah the damage system is very punishing in this mod and since you loose units to fast the learning curve is also to long to get decent.
Once i found about this years ago i clocked another 1600 hours into the game over those years - it's unparalleled in how good it is!
TLDW: yes, in every possible way ever
Wow i actually went on steam to check the numbers and coh2 literally has double the numbers of 3. That's crazy after all this time. Coh 2 has 5.1k in game, 3 has 2.5.
Relic sure is failing a lot in recent years.
3:35 No thats entirely realistic
I thought you ment Blitzkrieg 2 (2005)😂
YES IT IS.
Of course it is
Do mental omega
on the list!
Of course it is better.Its the GOAT of company of heroes.
As someone who prefers immersion by authenticity/feel rather than accuracy/realism, only played a fair bit of the Realism mods in CoH1 and 2.
Suffice to say, it was fun for a while; but a lot of them really removes or lessens a lot of what makes CoH, CoH. I like to play it from time to time to see what's new from the mods, but I generally play Vanilla or tweaked vanilla+ mods. The main reason being how the speed of the game is.
The main reason why you had more fun on a bridge map, is because it slows everything down.
The realism works better if it allowed a player to take their time, but base CoH doesn't allow that due to how it's geared towards strategic resource decisions that affect army build up more so than army build up that affects strategic resource decisions
It's a different thought process when you want to upgrade an Engi with a flamethrower so they are much more effective on their own compared to knowing that they would still not be as effective on their own even with a flamethrower so you save the ammunition on a better unit or callin.
If I really want to have fun with mods though, especially in CoH2, I install Advanced Powers. Sure it's a bit of a scifi fantasy type of mod, but hell it really fits CoH type gameplay. Same goes for another mod on CoH2 that turned it into the Cold War. Some really fun mods because of just how fun and absurd it is which reminds me of the old classic RTS games like Red Alert or Starcraft. Some people might say to review Spearhead or Wikinger, the two well known realism mods for CoH2, but hey why not take a peek at Advanced Powers while at it.
I'm an advocate of how CoH shouldn't have to always be serious or accurate, but rather nail a theme and portray the world well whilst making stories that fit and build on it while being respectful if it took inspirations from real stories.
TAPS is fun, sadly it lacks the balance to play it armoniously in pvp, in the server we still have good matchs but as soon someone picks zombies or do one of the countless eploits it all goes to hell.
I don't get how people can call it "realism", time to kill is low, sure, but that's the fun of it, you get punished for bad moves.
It's still REALLY arcadish.
This mod punishes players for using vehicles and tanks, and not using cover for infantry. Good for realism at first glance but an actually shitty concept in practice. There's stalemates everywhere and the game just drags on for hours.
on the contrary...you cannot use one spesific thing on this mod... neirhter only tanks or infantry...
This mod was "Men of War for babies" for me.
At the time we played a lot of Men of War online, with the "German Soldier" mod, which made it even more hardcore...
Third!
No matter what way you play CoH, bridge maps are always the ultimate way to play.
They are a boring grind, too easy vs ai. Agaisnt humans it is a fustrating nightmare as they just endlessly blow the bridges if they are going to lose. Open maps let you flank and do real tactics beyond head on slug fests.
@@kommodore6691 im only talking against ai. the grind for me personally is fun.
truth
Blitzkrieg mod does good things but overall is horrible, the forced realism clashes horribly with COH mechanics and just doesnt work. even the controls are horrible to the point you have multiple very important hotkeys on the same key (sprint and sticky grenade for example)
All COH base games are arcade, intended for less serious players.
The reason you and your friend got defeated by Ai is because you suck at the game. You cant use same tactics as you would in base game.
you must use scouts to spot enemy units, smoke when attacking an MG nest, support tanks with infantry and so on.
Its not true that single shot from AT gun kills EVERY tank, tanks in BK have different health points, Shermans and thin armored tanks will get obliterated, but heavy tanks will survive longer depending where they get hit and by what type of weapon hits them.
And, personally i like the fact infantry gets obliterated when it faces mg-42, this is the main reason i switched to BK
it was just annoying in base game that it took a tiger tank or an MG soo long to defeat a single squad out in the open that stood like 3 feet from the MG.
If you think BK mod is too realistic you should try a game called "Gates Of Hell: Ostfront" where you cant even see the enemy units unless spotted by yours. It is intended for Players who like to play tactically and love realism as opposed to arcade Bullshit like COH base games, it is more challenging, but also more interesting in the end.
Cheers!
Hard counters are a bad design desicion in my opinion. Will give this mod a pass.
About....
1 million times better.
coh 3 is ugly the models and graphics looks like toys.. for me the coh EaW mod and Immersion mod is the best..
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Losing to the AI on normal is CRAZY. You have to be so bad at the game lol
This mod is making worse for coh i rather play mow time to cancel the download
If you've never tried some of the 'hardcore' mods for CoH 1 or 2, you're missing out.