HUGE Train Loads - High & Wides!
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- Опубліковано 19 жов 2024
- When you need something big moved, the railroad can probably handle it. Big loads travel on trains in special high & wide cars that are incredible pieces of engineering!
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Great video!
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It’s simply Amazing on what the Railroads are capable of Moving around the Country. Great job, Charlie. Thanks! 👍
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Very interesting. I am a British enthusiast and love all things Great Western Railway. Their largest vehicle was the Crocodile L. It ha four, six wheeled bogies and two sets of girders. One set was straight to suspend a load, the other was a well frame to carry a load. They also had special sets of bogies that could be separated and the load suspended at each end. These were called Pollen, and came in several sizes. I have recently subbed to several US channels, and occasionally see KRX and similar HHW cars in consists. Always love to spot them, especially if loaded. 👍👍🇬🇧
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CEBX 802 is not a real reporting mark, but CEBX 800 is a real designation. It was designed for moving heavy components in the energy sector ranging from nuclear generating station components to petroleum refining parts. The car was owned by Combustion Engineering I believe.
Thanks for the info on the various reporting markings and the definition of each type of ''special car''! Also, a big THANK YOU for catching the dropped signal @ 1:36. If you haven't noticed before, I really enjoy signalling on railroads.
I get a kick out of seeing the dropped signals too.
Depressed-centre flats also means you don't have to lift the load as high to get it on the car. Probably not as big a deal as increasing clearance, which you point out, but I'm sure it helps.
Thanks Charlie great video. As a side note. GE paid to have the bridge abutment and any obstical moved to clear those gas turbines from Greenville to the port of Charleston SC.
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That's crazy and very interesting how those things are on the cars, 100% something I would like to see in the future. I also got to see NS 1074 as a mid-train DPU on NS 178 the other day. Great video as always.
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Nice, where I am in the panhandle of Western NEBR, only on BNSF LINES, I once In a great while will observe 87' flat cars carrying the green 737 fusealges at different times on frieght trains and their always jus behind the locomotives.
I've also seen at times the 87' flat cars carrying the 100' fan blades for the high wind turbines here to. I believe those are some built just outside of Brighton, Colo, and consist of about 30 cars at time, those cars to have their own independent pivoting shaft to articulate curves, or when switchn as they all are excessively extra long loads also requires 1, 87' FLATCARS and 1 40' flat car or longer to follow. Great VIDEO 👌✌️👍
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My dad had a co-worker awhile back that seen a full Submarine being transported through North Platte Nebraska
A few years ago I saw one of the Schnabel cars in Scranton Pennsylvania. The thing is massive!
I actually had the privelige of seeing the big Boeing fuelsalages being transported around when I went to Montana 8 years ago (hard to believe it's been that long already). My family was in an RV and we had stopped in Bozeman, with I-90 and the paralleling MRL mainline across from us. One of the trains was carrying something like 8 fuelsalages for the 767s westward to Seattle for final assembly. I can't help but wonder if one of the handful of planes I've been on was one of the ones I saw being transported that evening.
Yeah, they're not too uncommon out here around Seattle. The fuselages are 737s by the way.
I worked at Spirit in Wichatah, KS back in 2006 and the 737 fuselages on rail cars is very cool. You see them all the time there.
I've got videos of the GECX Well cars coming into the CSX Cayce Yard in Cayce, South Carolina. Further I got the reverse move of a GE 9HA turbine going to Greenville riding on a Schnabel car. Lastly, the one that has eluded you, came through Columbia, South Carolina four times carrying a Nuclear Steam Generator for the now dead and never completed power plant at Jenkinsville, SC. Yes I'm about talking Schnabel WECX 800. I very up close to the car. These videos are on my channel. Just be ready to grab a cup of coffee.
My fave lit up when I heard the Hulsey yard come up. I worked there a few years ago and it was amazing.
Thank you for these highly informative videos. I do enjoy very much your enthusiastic narrations.
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Great video as always. I've always considered high and wides on the railroad as just the railroad versions of the high and wide loads you would see on the road and on the highway pulled by semi trucks. I don't know if this counts, but another large load that is carried by rail are the large & long wind turbine blades carried on 89 ft long flat cars seen in other places in the US. As for high and wides I've seen, the most unique one was when I caught a southbound rocket components train in June 2020 passing thru middle Georgia on its way to Cape Canaveral, FL.
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Correct term is Clearance Implicated Shipment. Instructions for movement are governed by the Clearance Bureau. They pre-plan the route and movement of the train and trains around the shipment. There are also operating rules associated with the movement and placement of the shipment in the train. You must be able to observe it visually.
Very interesting. I am a British enthusiast, and love all things Great Western Railway. Their largest wagon was the Crocodile L. It had 4*6
Another interesting video. Thanks for putting it together.
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Great loads on these train locomotive double awesome nice 😊
I got married in Randolph Minnesota and the trains come by all the time and I see a lot of Planes that come from Seattle and oil trains when I go up there and see people it's cool
They keep quiet a few of the red Kasko cars at GE turbine plant in Schenectady, NY and as you can drive by the load out building you can also see their 80 center cab switcher.
747 sides where built at the Hawthrone airport years back before space X moved in. The contractor used very tall rail cars to transport the sides up to Seattle from SoCal
Very nice. Would like to see a video on wind turbine propeller transportation next
Seen a SB NS mixer last year headed to New Orleans with 4 KRL 12 axles depressed flats with transformer loads. each car had a 60' ttx flat car as spacers.
Beautiful model and excellent explanation
most significant thing i've ever seen is when a car derailed here near the corning glass plant knocked over a power pole just a little and shut down many crossings
I have seen alot of Kasgro cars from living in Penscola & Charlotte, NC. Caught the rocket train a couple of times. Seen it traverse, the Escambia Bay trestle is quite a sight.
I have a number of interesting High/Wide loads caught on film.
It is impressive to see them track side.
Great video man!
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Great Video. Just wanted to share an interesting tidbit from my trip today. I was taking CN Q120 from Toronto to Belleville and we had a track inspection boxcar (one of those ones with the laser measuring system and LIDAR) just behind our engines. Interestingly enough it isn't considered an ERAP car and has no speed restrictions, which is unusual.
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing!
nice video with interesting facts!
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Take yourself to Wichita Kansas. The BNSF routinely brings fuselages from the Boeing plant in Washington to be assembled at the Boeing plant in Wichita
Spirit aerosystems builds the 737 fuselage in Wichita and ships them to Renton, wa for final assembly.
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Gotta love 'em
This is fantastic thanks for sharing 😀👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😀😀😀😀😀😀
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i've actually once saw a Union pacific in my area caring 787 fuselages and it had like 5 to 6 engines on it it was a beast.
I've seen some high wides over the years one I remember was The lead locomotive was one in the movie unstoppable the AC44 CP 4 truck depressed center flat car transformer two flat cars track equipment three flats of 3 unit well car at the end a autorack. Very friendly crew.
There were five or six Boeings on a train in Laurel, MT this past weekend.
One year when I was 10 years old I saw an old CSX caboose at the end of a train. At the time I had no Idea that they were special. But now looking back on that memory it's pretty cool. That's definitely not something you see every day.
Iv seen a boarded up Pullman passenger car in the middle of a csx train.
I’ve seen some Boeing fuselages in Everett WA. Three passenger fuselages, one freight fuselage. I’ve also seen a center depressed flat car with a transformer in Tilman yard.
I’ve also seen a full military train
Not sure if it falls under the category but I caught a windmill train minus the blades. Not exactly "high and wide" but it was a nice catch for me. Very cool video. Always educational 👏
Still sounds interesting. Thanks for watching!
Very Cool
Sweet and interesting figures my trouble is converting the imperial units they're a nightmare.
WECX 801 actually became KRL (Kasgro) 3601 in 2019, along with its slightly smaller sister, 800 (now KRL 3600). Both were designed to haul the new AP1000 nuclear reactor. Westinghouse was betting on the domestic success of their largest and safest nuclear reactor design yet, but it was actually a flop. Therefore, these cars were somewhat useless from the start.
Hi its Mark from UK that was very interesting I love watching vidios of American freight trains especially military freight and tanker cars..... Do you have any idea what the 6 yellow lines are for on the sides of tanker cars please?.... The only thing I can think of is they show the weld seems where the sections are joined... Maybe Iam wrong haha.... Unfortunately not much interesting freight here in the UK we don't even haul coal anymore... Mainly steel, shipping containers, and aggergate & autoracks usually 1 EMD class 66 Power unit hauling around 30 wagons as we call them over here and they fly past very fast so pretty boring.... I wish we had long long freights like you guys have in the US 👍
Hi Mark - I believe the marks you are talking about are ARR-required reflector markings, to aid night visibility. If you look at current videos you should see them on all cars in the US. They are also required on locomotives. Funny thing is, it's not stopped the stupid and drunk morons from bashing into the sides of trains on a regular basis. Guess you really can't fix stupid... and we all know the alcohol issues. Hope this helps. Cheers!
depressed center flats also help lower the center of gravity, making the load less likely to tip
Another epic informational video video thank you very much just saying that no one cares about trains anymore my father was alive he loved us thank you very much for the info
What do you mean no-one cares about trains? Sorry, but that's just nonsense. You're looking at a UA-cam channel about trains that 37,500 people are subscribed to. There are plenty of UA-cam train channels with more subscribers than that.
My point is more people should care about the channel that's what I'm trying to say they need to push this stuff up more often it's a compliment that is channel is good and no one cares none of people care about the channel
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You can see Boeing fuselages being transported by Virtual Railfan’s Wichita, Kansas webcam.
Virtual Railfan Channel has videos of Boeing 737 fuselages in green primer on their way to another plant for further work. Guy Franks
Here's a video suggestion: are diesel electric locomotives technically a hybrid
I thought this was a great idea because a diesel electric locomotive uses a diesel engine to power an alternator generation electricity to power traction motors making me believe it's a hybrid
No. A hybrid is a vehicle that can be powered by both an internal combustion engine and a battery. Diesel-electric locomotives are powered by a diesel engine driving a generator which supplies traction motors.
As a former NS Trainmaster on the Pittsburgh division I’ve seen all sorts of high and wides. Funny enough the movement office hated running them on the Pittsburgh Division because some High and wides require adjacent tracks to be clear or a restricted speed for passing. They’re Easier to move down south when you have single track mains with passing sidings. Being at Conway we saw almost everything on the network. I’d say CAT equipment the most. But you can usually see military equipment, nuclear flasks to and from mechanicsburgh PA as well as schnable cars.
That's really cool! Yeah, I'll bet high and wides could cause some major headaches.
@@v12productions Certainly especially with crew and power shortages during the height of Covid. Usually an extra High & Wide train would be out on after a few of them accumulated in to run out at night and minimize impact, but we were forced to get more creative and run them on regularly scheduled trains. Some of them were more time sensitive as well, for example a lot of the CAT equipment needs to be at port in Maryland to catch a boat for export at a certain time. Some equipment and companies even had people follow the loads throughout their journey by automobile. Special military high and wides with armed cabooses with personnel also could created for headaches. A very interesting subsection of railroading for sure.
The engineers don't wave from the trains anymore, not they did back in 1954.
Head to Spirit Aviation between Derby & Wichita KS to see Boeing 737 fuselages loaded for transport to Seattle.
All I can tell you is, I worked on those transformer's, and they can get pretty heavy.
The Boeing 737 fuselage on every 2 weeks on BNSF in Billings Montana
It would look good on my layout
There was a general electric generator that passed through about 4-5 weeks ago now
I saw something like what was shown on the thumbnail of this video on an ns train on the Lake Erie district one time
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Where'd the schobble-car come from.....???
I want one....
I saw a BNSF manifest hauling 3 Boeing 737s
What is the standard width and height a flat car can be loaded to? What is the standard deck height of a flat car? How much can you go over the standard limits of height and width without seriously impeding the train? Say between Louisiana and South Carolina. Thanks and take care.
I doubt if you have very many tunnels and low road bridges as we do in England. You talk in Lbs w hats that in tons ?
2:58 what is on top of this tank car?
Interesting.
CEBX 802 is real
Wow
All cat and komatsu are from either cat in east Peoria il or komatsu in Peoria il hope this helps v12 productions
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I've seen the Schnabel in real life
So your real name is Charlie am I correct
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Well, here's some information that you don't have or had not looked up. A Schnabel car or Schnabel wagon is a specialized type of railroad freight car. It is designed to carry heavy and oversized loads in such a way that the ...
Design · CEBX 800 in North America
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Addum to the above ... A Schnabel car or Schnabel wagon is a specialized type of railroad freight car. It is designed to carry heavy and oversized loads in such a way that the load makes up part of the car. The load is suspended between the two ends of the cars by lifting arms; the lifting arms are connected to an assembly of span bolsters that distribute the weight of the load and the lifting arm over many wheels.
When a Schnabel car is empty, the two lifting arms are connected and the car can usually operate at normal freight train speeds. Some Schnabel cars include hydraulic equipment that will either lift or horizontally shift the load while in transit (at very low speeds) to clear obstructions along the car's route. As of 2012, there were 31 Schnabel cars operating in Europe, 30 in North America, 25 in Asia, and one in Australia.
The largest Schnabel car in public railroads operation, reporting number WECX 801, was completed in 2012 by Kasgro Railcar for Westinghouse Nuclear and is used in North America primarily to transport reactor containment vessels. It has 36 axles (18 for each half). Each half contains nine trucks which are connected by a complex system of span bolsters. Its tare (unloaded) weight is 399.6 short tons (362.5 t; 356.8 long tons) and has a load limit of 1,017.9 short tons (923.4 t; 908.8 long tons) for a maximum gross weight of 1,417.5 short tons (1,285.9 t; 1,265.6 long tons). WECX 801 has the ability to shift its load 44 inches (112 cm) vertically and up to 40 inches (102 cm) laterally on either side of the car's centerline. When empty, this car measures 231 ft (70 m) long; for comparison, a conventional boxcar currently operating on North American railroads has a single two-axle truck at each end of the car, which measures 50 to 89 feet (15.24 to 27.13 m) long and has a capacity of 70 to 105 short tons (64 to 95 t; 63 to 94 long tons). The train's speed is limited to 25 mph (40 km/h) when WECX 801 is empty, but only 15 mph (24 km/h) when loaded and requires a crew of six operators in addition to the train's crew.
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I got a favor to ask can you please partner up with dovetail for railworks simulator to create the Atlanta north district starting from Macon and include the line through griffin to and start the csx line a little past the airport like ending past the college park train station I will give you personally 1000$ on start up bro
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I´m always confused with the ridiculous high numbers you americans use, like 500000 or 1000000 pounds, why not just 250 or 500 tons? Why such a "fine" unit like pounds, when it comes to railroads, where 1 ton more or less doesn´t really matter :D
We use both. Most people know that 2,000 lbs equals 1 ton. Everyone is taught that in school in North America. But pounds remain the most relatable since it's what people in the U.S. (And Canada) use for comparing body weight, or the weight of a car. Pounds are used for many more things since anything in your home or anything that you use in day-to-day life is under 1 ton.
Saying something that weighs 200 tons or 500 tons comes off as an arbitrary number that is just harder for our brains to relate to. But pounds are used for a bag of dog food, a new kitchen table from Ikea, or a flat-screen TV. Etc...
So many UA-cam channels default to using pounds. It's relatable and just sounds more impressive when writing out 230,000 lbs vs 115 tons for the same weight.
Aka...Big numbers just sell better.
Late to the show but there also different tons metric and imperial
@@markllewellyn93 sure, 500 metric tons will be 450 us tons, but you can say the same about pounds, us pounds are something like 450 gramms, metic pounds are 500 gramms.
Awesome video!
Awesome video!
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