Spare Parts #8 - Making A D Bit Single Flute Milling Cutter
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- Опубліковано 11 жов 2024
- Making A D Bit Single Flute Milling Cutter, by Clickspring
The 'D' Bit is a piece of old school shop tech that I absolutely love to use. They're perfect for profile milling cutters, countersinks etc. as demonstrated in this video. But they are particularly well suited to drilling very deep, straight holes. They are incredibly accurate, and can leave a surface finish that approaches what you expect from a HSS reamer - And that's from a shop made drill!
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Abbreviated Transcript:
00:17 Now the term "D Bit" has a fairly broad meaning, and can be used to describe a wide range of cutters with a D shaped cross section, but in this video I'm going to make a milling cutter to form a V shaped groove in brass, so the geometry will need to be something like this.
00:32 Starting with this length of drill rod, the first step was to face it to length. The cutter I'm making has an included angle of 92 degrees, and I do need it to be dead on, so rather than rely on the lathe protractor, using a dial indicator to get it exactly right.
00:50 The better the surface finish on the cutting edge, the better the finish the cutter will leave on the part.
01:27 I remove the bulk of the stock using an end mill like this, and then rotate the work through 90 degrees to finish the rest of the stock removal, and create a recess behind the flat. This recess becomes quite helpful when sharpening the cutter, which I'll show you later.
01:40 With the flat just short of the half way mark for sharpening, the bulk of the metal removal is complete. A little bit of time on the coarse stone brings it even closer to the centerline, and also removes the burrs and tools marks in preparation for hardening.
02:01 A coating of boric acid and denatured alcohol, along with soft iron wire can help to reduce the oxidation scale that would normally build up during the heating process.
02:23 I used some emery paper to clean up the surfaces, and a quick test with an old file confirms the part is glass hard. At this point it's much too brittle to be of any use, and needs to be tempered.
02:36 Ideally I'd use a heat treating oven for this, but I don't have one, so instead I use the oxide colors as a guide. I heat it gently from the shank end, and let the heat slowly walk up the length of the cutter.
02:47 The oxide colors do roughly indicate the surface temperature, but I give it plenty of time for the heat to pass into the interior and transform the structure of the metal.
03:01 Emery sticks can again be used to brighte up the surface, and the cutter is ready to be sharpened, using the coarse medium and fine oilstones.
03:12 And you can see the recess ensures that the cutter naturally sits flat on the stones, so that the entire surface is being sharpened parallel to the axis of the cutter.
03:33 For one thing, quench hardened carbon steel can't compete with carbide or HSS, so I find its best to not be too ambitious with the depth of cut and feed.
03:42 And to be technically correct, a side cutting D Bit really should have clearance angles behind the cutting lip, much like an engraving cutter.
03:49 But it's difficult to form the relief angles for this sort of profile without a tool and cutter grinder, and in practice I've found that if I keep the feed rate modest, I can get away with leaving them out, without too much penalty.
04:17 They're particularly well suited to drilling very deep, close tolerance holes, and can be tailored to suit a specific requirement, for example in this case a square bottomed to the hole.
04:25 They're a great way to solve those unusual cutting problems that crop up from time to time, that might otherwise require spending money, on an expensive cutter.
References:
"The Model Engineers Workshop Manual" pg 94
George H Thomas
The many forum posts on the subject of D Bits
by John "Bogstandard" Moore
Making A D Bit Single Flute Milling Cutter, by Clickspring.
I am 57, but when I grow up I want to be like you.
When I was a kid I couldn't afford to buy milling cutters so I started making d bit mills. I found that if you insert some shim under one of the jaws in your 3 jaw ( I couldn't afford a four Jaw and collets were something I only ever saw in catalogues and books) then you could generate some form relief. You've just got to mark out the high point before you mill. (or in my case back then file ) the flat. Weirdly 45 years later I am still making these tools to overcome emergency problems in a hurry. Keep up the good work the videos are fantastic. Thank you
If there's any kids watching... auctions and scrounging are the answer.
I got 200 (yes, 200) sets of geometric die head cutters for £50, a pair of Herbert precision drills for £50, a Parkson 2A horizontal milling machine for £50 (bit of a theme developing here).
I passed on two pallets of 4, 5 & 6 morse taper drills (maybe 500 drills) for free (help yourself son!) because I knew I'd never own a machine big enough to use them. That was before Ebay of course. Wish I'd taken them now.
I got a box of about 50 rotary cutters for £30 when the Cincinnati main dealer closed in Peterborough.
My first lathe was a Colchester Student for £200 (same place I got the Parkson).
I've outfitted a very decent workshop for next to bugger all. Everything dates from the 60s & 70s and works fine.
Pickings aren't as good as they were 30 years ago but you can still buy decent lathes, mills, drills, etc if you watch local auctions and just nosey around machine shops. I've been offered very decent lathes and all sorts of other stuff for free.
Scrap bins. Never pass a scrap bin. Always be polite and offer cash or a bottle of something.
This is my favorite part of machining: when you need a tool, you just stop and make one! Very empowering.
My issue is I've been making tools to make more tools to make tools. That I've forgotten what I was making to begin with.
This video just inspired my semi-functional brain to come up with a "solution" to a very tedious boring operation required to complete a project of mine that is at a stand still and has been bothering me for some time. Thank You!
We have been using D shape or half lip cutters on our 3d engraving machine for over 40 years. About 30 years back I came across a design where I can give a relief to the cutting edge. So we made an improvised cutter grinder where a swash plate mechanism has been used for the relief. But this video is just awesome
I've learned a lot from this channel. One of the most valuable ones is all these shop-made precision tools, like this and the pivot drill.
That last cut! WOW!
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Ich thought the same
Great tool. Cutters are always expensive so making simple tools like that are a bargin. Thanks for sharing.
Seriously this is the best quality content on youtube
4:26 Most satisfying sound.
pop. nice!
Another well made tip. It's good to see someone explain D Bits well as they make excellent reamers for jobs that require a reamed diameter on a flat bottomed hole. I recently made one for a block of aluminum that needed a 4" long cartridge heater. A D bit made from drill rod was the perfect tool to ream .3750 clear to the bottom of the 4" blind hole.
Love the videos, keep them up!
+armorer1984 Will do mate, terrific to have you watching :)
Your projects are amazing.
I now see why some of these things cost so much money. The amount of time and work that go into a project like this is phenomenal.
Your freaking genius. I got into machining watching you and appreciate it more and more the more i learn.
Yaaayyy... a new Clickspring video. Been missing them. Always thoroughly impressed with your work. Both on the actual topic of the video, as well as the production value of the video itself. One thing that really speaks to the quality of the presentation is that the viewer is left with a feeling that one could do it oneself. Even if I'm painfully aware of the fact that I have several years of practicing ahead of me if I ever dream of repeating anything done in your videos =) Thanks again for an excellent video!
+Left Flamingo Thanks for the kind words LF, I appreciate your support :)
This collection of videos are like therapeutic to me. Watching the precision, the amazing footage, and listening the descriptions, simply relaxes me, and makes me forget about my stress...
+alex akkers Terrific to hear that Alex :)
I have never been really "interested" in milling..... not that i had anything against it, just haven't had much exposure. After obsessing over your videos overnight for the past month... i can really see the possibilities that learning these skills could open. Now i just need money for the tools... Thanks for making these videos!
+Tyler Hall Awesome to hear that Tyler, more on the way soon :)
Have to say that your video quality is excellent. Too many UA-cam videos are spoiled by poor camera work. Yours are amazing and adds to the dimension of the quality of the work with the tools.
+Adrian Williams Cheers Adrian, I appreciate you taking the time to watch the vids mate :)
There's nothing like making your own cutting tools for the shop. Those single flute d-bits are awfully handy and do a great job when properly made. Nice work.
+comictrio Cheers mate, thanks for watching :)
You follow along right until the last cut..... And the gravity of the possibilities sets in!!!! Great Videos Thanks for sharing the info!!!
I just found this channel and I am amazed by this man and his work. YOU are a master.
What a brilliant clear ,,, concise ,,, and simple presentation ,,,, many thanks
+Alan Plumb Cheers Alan, I appreciate you taking the time to watch :)
Just found this excellent video. I have been making and using 'D-bits' for metalworking for years, first inspired by Bogs. Your video adds improved techniques. I plan to make several as you have shown for the CNC router I'm building. Thank you for sharing your technique, well done!
Cheers Chuck, terrific to have you watching mate :)
Today was a great day! New clickspring....YES! Beautiful job as always Chris.
+Matthew Phelps Cheers Matthew, I appreciate your support mate :)
As a tradesman Toolmaker from New Zealand, it often saddens me to see tricks like these, as well as things like spade bits, hand made fly cutters etc fall out of favor in toolrooms, the basic sort of things i first learned when i started my Apprenticeship are almost becoming forgotten tricks of the trade. Really awesome to see someone demonstrate them in such a clear and concise fashion for the home engineer.
And i have to say it, i'm genuinely jealous of your meticulous attention to detail and finish quality.
+BaneNZ Thrilled to have you watching mate, thank you for taking the time to check it out :)
Such a craftsman, Chris. These videos are an absolute joy to watch. I'm hanging out to see your new videos more than my favourite TV shows or movies.
And I'm glad you're sharing some home-grown Aussie intelligence, engineering and easy-going nature with the world. That's how we roll. Certainly the quiet achievers. Keep it up mate.
+Don S Cheers Don, great to have your support mate :)
Jesus christ, the quality of these videos is amazing. The video, the bacground music, the narration, everything fits so well. Incredible job man!
+asda89 Thank you for watching :)
you just blew my mind, great video. I have always thought this type of cutter was only for glass cutting/drilling......
I bet you make a wicked fixed blade knife
Excellent! I started making one last night, based on a sketch in an old lathe book, but I couldn't figure out the purpose of the 'recess behind the flat'. Thanks for explaining.
Cheers Paul
I know absolutely nothing about machining (though I watch videos like this almost religiously), but your videos have the best payoff. The BEST.
Great video, I'll go back and review it many more times to let it all sink in. Thanks
To achieve the correct degree with the indicator is the perfect professional!!!
That precision at the end made me grin and giggle like an doof....its so beautiful!
+Tim Morrison Great to have you watching Tim :)
Clickspring Great to have something (and someone!) of this caliber on UA-cam! I love seeing your work: a combination of all my passions, designing, making, and clocks, machining, art and moving parts! (And thank you. :D)
Thanks for showing you are gifted.
Stuff like this amazing, I can imagine it can save allot of money and for people starting off I would think this information makes all the difference.
2:01 there's something about shortening Methylated Spirits to "Meth spirits" that makes me chuckle.
Your videos are absolutely mesmerizing...I could watch them all day
+John Roberts Terrific to hear that John, great to have you watching :)
Nice. In boring head at 4:30. Using boring head with profile cutter ! You figure out a lot of shop solutions.!
That recess is like a sharpening choil on a knife blade. Smart
It may have been mentioned already, but I use a toaster oven and oven thermometer to temper and I get pretty accurate results. Great videos!
+Nick Watson Thank you for sharing Nick, and thank you for watching :)
BTW... that cut at the end was really nice!!!
thank! Using you for reference in making cutting tools and D-bit reamer and bores
I wonder if anyone else on youtube has such high like to dislike ratios. You truely have a gift Chris. Thanks for sharing this!
+piglet That's a very kind of you mate, I very much appreciate your support :)
Brilliant finish on the clock surround at the end, nice one.
Wow this is my first video and I am already really hooked! Amazing!
Awesome Ian, great to have you watching mate :)
Yeah... New Clickspring videos!!
I love watching the tool making videos. Especially when the tools are as nice as these. Whenever I score a mixed lot of tools the first thing I look for are handmade/customized tools. It's a bit like a mystery novel trying to figure out who made it, when they made it and why they made it. You do fine work, sir.
+hopper1 Thanks Hopper, great to have you watching :)
oh wow. I really need a lathe and mill.
true tool makeing it's what got me into the trade and I'm glad so many people can now be exposed to it through your videos so thank you
+Blade Cooper Great to have you watching mate :)
This channel is awesome. I can only dream of doing this kind of manufacturing. I have the skills and knowledge but lack rescources and finances.
Your videos rule. They all inspire me to try new things.
+Emil Hamady Awesome Emil, great to hear that :)
Hi
Nice video. Thanks for sharing.
We used Drill Rod, Silver Steel previously for making cutters without getting adequate glass hardness. Need to re-think and re-do our Hardness technique.
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aR M if you use O1 drill rod/silver steel, it's hard to get it properly hardened without holding it at an elevated temp for a while. O1 is good in that it doesn't make many extra carbides from over extending your heat treat so better to overheat than underheat. I believe industry standard is at least 10 minutes just over critical temperature, but I haven't used it since my knife making days so I'd have to double check.
Always the highest and finest standards. Great work again.
+phooesnax Thank you mate, all the best for Christmas mate :)
Fell in love with the video quality, style, accent and attention to detail in first video that I watched :) Now I can't have enough. Thanks for excellent content and hope you won't stop for a long time.
+krneki44 Thanks for the encouragement mate, will certainly keep doing the videos. Some great new projects lined up for next year I think you'll really enjoy :)
Thanks for reminding me of the humble D-bit. I have made then for reaming holes but it did not occur to me to make a vee cutter. You mentioned that you did not have an oven for tempering. The "straw" temperature is 235C (Tubal Cain, Workshop Practice No. 1) and Tubal Cain suggests you use any household oven. They will reach 235C for sure. I bought a cheapie small oven (not to abuse the kitchen) and have used this tempering method ever since, with complete success.
+Juan Rivero Great suggestion Juan, although Mrs Clickspring is less than impressed when I let the shop and kitchen overlap! Will keep an eye out for a cheap 2nd hand one :)
Nice work Chris! Your videos are professionally perfect and well enjoyed.
+Jonathan Flissar Cheers Jonathan :)
Dude you're amazing!
+Pedro Lopez Thanks for your support Pedro, I appreciate it :)
This has got to be one of my favourite series of all time. I'm learning so much from this stuff. Keep it up, you do excellent work.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge,your videos is a gread inspiration.
Gracias.
I’ve been a job shop machinist for 8 years now .. and I have got to say I love your work it’s perfect love how you make your own endmills
I admire your diligence and attention to detail, Excellent Video(s) sir.
+Rmp Inc Thanks for the kind words, I appreciate you tuning in :)
holy ... cutter :)
nice done old tools from mid 60'
:)
+一つのボタン私 Thanks for watching :)
Wow! Perfect work
I have no idea what half of the stuff you're talking about means. but I've watched like 3 videos in a row. keep it up
I just tried making one myself! I it sort of worked for me haha. I think I either removed too little or two much material when making the flat. It seems to push the material rather than cut it. I'll have to head back to the shop and make another one. This time I'll be more careful. Thanks for the video!
Thanks Chris, very inspiring videos! Can't wait for the next update on the clock..
Hermoso! Se nota que si le pusiste atención a la clase.
Just excellent videography. Many thanks.
Fantastic work and you make it look so simple !
Oh man you are just simply genius, love your videos.
+Zohaib Ahmed Thank you Zohaib, I appreciate you taking the time to watch :)
G'day Chris
Please consider a short tutorial video on the sharpening stones you use.
Cheer m8
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Thank you for the great videos! This was very helpful.
Thanks Chris! Always worth the wait!
Yes clickspring updates!!!!!!
Merci beaucoup pour ce beau travail
Nice work! I’ve learned a lot from you! Thank you!
Good and sencible presentation, well done.
I place in a sofa with popcorn to watch your videos!!!
What can i say!!! it is a clickspring video....good on ya chris..
+sunilkumar vc Cheers mate!
From Argentina : excelente!!!!!!!!!!
mind blown ive never seen one of those !!! great video !
Absolutely brilliant, thank you for tips!
Another impressive video! I was wondering about the relief angle so I am glad you mentioned it :)
Stunning and Inspiring work! I can't wait to get my own milling machine and late and start doing my own work!
.i love your video's, especially the clockmaking. Im waiting impatiently for your follow ups. Cheers mate
+TPNL1997 Cheers mate, thanks for being patient, next clock episode out on Sunday night.
+Clickspring keep it up, this meticulous work of yours takes the UA-cam maker space to a whole new level. I really appreciate it.
I used needle bearings and worked fine.
If you like his videos disable adblock if you have it. Work like this needs as much support as possible.
+Valtra103 Thank you mate, I very much appreciate your support :)
Clickspring
I like to make stuff myself, so I know how much work you put into these videos :)
Yes I enjoy this video
Very nice! Thanks for showing us this :-)
It's about time! Been forever since the last video.
+FishFind3000 Yes I kind of agree, I wish I had more time to make them! Thanks for being patient :)
this guy is so friggin clever! we are gonna make a clock now, but first we will make all the tools to make the clock!
Good idea , thanks guys
Hello from Indonesia
Wabula kyaligwe oli wakabi,meaning u ar soo incredible,I love every tut of yoz,wish u cud make one about dividing plates,made a lathe and am missing so many parts and cutters,but with yo tuts am sure I will have all of them.I really love yo tuts once again,greetings from Uganda.
+Karl Mozey Cheers Karl, great to have you watching mate :)
Very cool Chris.... That is a sweet cutter and very useful in the shop... Great work..g'day
+1pilotsteve Cheers Steve, its a wee ripper, g'day :)
Yet another great video Clickspring !
Thanks
I need to make a pinch turning hollow mill for cutting a taper on a very small diameter PEEK fitting. I think by milling an internal taper and then basically creating 2 opposing d profile cutting surfaces, I can get it done.
Awesome trick for beginners
I continue to re-watch your videos...I only wish there was an additional "like" button..Superb Craftsmanship
+Tom Kuster Ha ha! Thanks very much Tom, I appreciate your support :)
Sweet a Clickspring video
Great stuff Chris. As usual, beautifully videoed and most informative. Hope the clock is in good health! :)
+ChrisB257 Cheers Chris!