Eventhough i don’t own a high end bike, i really find this video interesting and your honest inputs are really valuable for those would be owners and those like me, dreamers 😬
@@thewinsty is there some sort of plastic or rubber that prevents dust/debris from getting. I know the sl7 has something similar but it was covered by rubber
I would love to share but personally I don’t even know. Price factors a lot into my decision in the way that if I can minimize my losses when selling I’ll be quite inclined to get it. For example, an 8k frame selling for 4k, or 8k frame that I can sell at close to 7k in the future. But all I know is I must sell something before I make any serious consideration. These are the ways I attempt to keep this expensive hobby sustainable
a friend of mine that works at a bike shop said the supersix evo 2 was coming back in stock on February 2025 😂 Im like what?!?! You can't be serious. But he was dead serious. That's ridiculous man.
I think it’s the bike shop issue. They got so much money stucked on inventories that nobody wants and when it comes to investing and bringing in something people really want, they got no cash flow to roll. Common issue since the cycling pre-post Covid hype ended.
Bicycle stores cant order the exact bike they wanted… they got to order a certain number of deadstock bikes then theyre able to have quota for hot selling ones
I got so lucky with mine. Finding my size in NY and i live in Cali. I love mine.. it was a good call jumping on it. Still haven’t seen another person with a mystique gray in my area. Momo handlebar is so comfortable!!!
I’d really like to see you do a review of your bibs.. you’ve got a nice collection of Maap, Attaquer, Pedal Mafia and any P.N.S? What’s your go to bib for long rides? Thanks
The only PNS I have so far is the one between my legs. For long rides I would definitely opt for MAAP, the ones with the 3D moulded chamois that’s comes with their alt road or Team Evo/Pro bibs. I find the Team Evo bibs to be more comfortable than the Pro bibs (which cost $60 more). However I have a friend who thinks Pro feels better than Evo. I think Pro is good that the colour doesn’t fade after multiple washes, whereas I find the Evo‘s colour fades with washing. Ok I agree it might be worthwhile to do a review video
That would be great reviewing them all.. I’ve been riding Pedal Mafia for a while and was considering the Maap evo/pro.. review of your P.N.S is optional 👌🏻
I’ve tried Assos.. I’ve two pairs bought in 2011 I still use on the indoor trainer. Exceptional quality and comfort, but they look like they’re designed by a Swiss accountant.. pretentious I know, but Assos aesthetics are terrible. For similar quality I’d rather wear PM or Maap
@@Oakpathetics but they're not similar quality. Assos chamois is best in the business and their panel design is amazing. I've got both the RSR and the RS S9 Targa and they're stellar
I get it. It's like buying a Rolex. You either keep it at least until the end of production or you immediately sell it (with a mark-up) to people who don't want to wait. For bikes, the first option is pointless, the latter is the way to go. You basically ride an immediate profit. I had the same idea for my gravel bike when the market situation was bad and demand really high but too bad, I was pretty much the last person to receive one
What’s the geometry like for you? You look a bit uncomfortable on camera There’s a more so called modern geometry that SL7/8, Factor Ostro, Look RS (2023) are adopting.
To some degrees, the shortage is a good thing. Under this circumstance, there is only one type of riders who will buy new Supersix, which is the ones with at least one road bike in garage, having decent amount of money and a special taste with preference on new Supersix which let these buyer being able to withstand this long period of waiting. In short, this kind of shortage filtered out the people with herd mentality who know little about bike, hardly have riding experience and skills but still pursue premium bikes. Of course, this is good for the owner, for it increases the identity of the ownership, but for the people still in the waitinglist, it is arduously suffering.
If you're performance focused, I'd just get a pure aero bike right now, System Six, or a Madone. These all arounders are just boring bikes man, unless u spend most of your time climbing, and honestly if you're above 180lbs, a lighter bike ain't exactly gonna revolutionize your climbing game, so optomize your aero, not a fan.
The morale of the story, get your hands on a newly launched bike, hope that there will be a supply issue for the rest on the wait list, then sell the bike while supplies are low and demand is still high to get the money you want for it. Smart!
Personally I don’t find Peugeot or Volkswagen very exciting, and there aren’t many exciting bikes in the market now. Which other bikes in the market do you think I should take a look at?
Who cares about a "launch" ... the quality of the bike itself is what counts. You don't talk about bike fit, geometry, size which is a major oversight.
It’s a good quality bike but if you’re based in Singapore you would understand that nobody can buy one locally, so all the marketing hype created is pointless in the local market context. I have mentioned geometry and size in my earlier videos about this bike, also in this video about headtube angle. I don’t talk about the bike fit aspect as part of my review because it’s not really the manufacturer’s fault if the bike doesn’t fit me well, the responsibility falls on me to adjust the stem/saddle position to make it work. And even then, what fits me poorly/well may not apply for others since fit is so personal.
@@thewinsty Supply not equalling demand is not a "launch" issue. It happened in a lot of countries even now. You don't have the qualifications to comment on the bike market or technical bike aspects. Your excuses are invalid.
@@lancelink88 I don't have bike market qualifications but as a lay consumer I think companies should ensure they have the supply chain sorted before they launch a product, unless it is their intentional strategy to restrict supply but I don't think this is the case here. Let's say Apple launches the new iPhone in Sept announcing fancy features and creating lots of anticipation but by July the following year they are still saying they are out of stock and barely anyone has managed to buy their phones. In other words they launched but nobody can buy. As a lay person I would call that a launch failure. In Sg, it is not just that demand is more than supply (that is a sign of healthy sales). Rather, over here supply is pretty much zero, they say it'll come in May, then Sept, then Nov... so on. They also hyped up the handlebar in Feb but we were told "it is not ready yet, no stock has arrived" when I wanted to buy one in May. But anyway don't take the title too seriously, it is doing its job as intended haha :)
Eventhough i don’t own a high end bike, i really find this video interesting and your honest inputs are really valuable for those would be owners and those like me, dreamers 😬
5:37 isn't that too high?
looks uncomfortably high, pinarello looks a size too big as well.
Maybe the angle, it’s the same saddle height in all other shots.
@@thewinstyabsolutely not the angle. Your kneecap isn't even bent, foot is angled towards the floor?
@@melzboyleft bend, backside is shifted left. So R leg is more stretched. Maybe.
@1:54 it looks a little stretched still.. with quite a bit of toe pointing, which can be natural. Do you get saddle sores at all?
Can you help to comment on Lab71 comparing to the SL7 that you own previously? Which is your preferred bike?
The Venge 😆. Next question LOL
what jersey is that?
Finally another video! Upload more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Great vid as always really motivates me.
Could you tell more about the Scicon Glasses you wearing ? Do they fit well ?
Yes they fit well and I like using them
Does dirt and grime get into the stem. I know that the conceal stem has a giant hole for the cables.
Not from what I’ve experienced, hasn’t been an issue so far
@@thewinsty is there some sort of plastic or rubber that prevents dust/debris from getting. I know the sl7 has something similar but it was covered by rubber
Do you have a hole in the back of your frame? A lot of dirt and sand go into my frame because of the hole
Thanks for sharing. What new bike are you looking at as your next bike?
I would love to share but personally I don’t even know. Price factors a lot into my decision in the way that if I can minimize my losses when selling I’ll be quite inclined to get it. For example, an 8k frame selling for 4k, or 8k frame that I can sell at close to 7k in the future. But all I know is I must sell something before I make any serious consideration. These are the ways I attempt to keep this expensive hobby sustainable
a friend of mine that works at a bike shop said the supersix evo 2 was coming back in stock on February 2025 😂 Im like what?!?! You can't be serious. But he was dead serious. That's ridiculous man.
I think it’s the bike shop issue. They got so much money stucked on inventories that nobody wants and when it comes to investing and bringing in something people really want, they got no cash flow to roll. Common issue since the cycling pre-post Covid hype ended.
Bicycle stores cant order the exact bike they wanted… they got to order a certain number of deadstock bikes then theyre able to have quota for hot selling ones
I got so lucky with mine. Finding my size in NY and i live in Cali. I love mine.. it was a good call jumping on it. Still haven’t seen another person with a mystique gray in my area. Momo handlebar is so comfortable!!!
is this a Verge cycling Jersey?
Yes it is!
How long did you ride the longest distance? I am afraid of this frame eat leg or not.
200+km with 5500m of ascending
Great Video!
Come Malaysia buy the frame, seem alot available stock
hi, what route is this?
Just cycling around Singapore mix of NTU LCK ECP West Coast Faber
Like others said.
Seatposition is way to high...
Experienced Riders do turn the cranks, instead of "stumping" them, when the seat is to high
Accordigly to some bike workshops, and customers the finish and technical quality of the frameset is below the average standards...
I’d really like to see you do a review of your bibs.. you’ve got a nice collection of Maap, Attaquer, Pedal Mafia and any P.N.S? What’s your go to bib for long rides? Thanks
The only PNS I have so far is the one between my legs. For long rides I would definitely opt for MAAP, the ones with the 3D moulded chamois that’s comes with their alt road or Team Evo/Pro bibs. I find the Team Evo bibs to be more comfortable than the Pro bibs (which cost $60 more). However I have a friend who thinks Pro feels better than Evo. I think Pro is good that the colour doesn’t fade after multiple washes, whereas I find the Evo‘s colour fades with washing. Ok I agree it might be worthwhile to do a review video
That would be great reviewing them all.. I’ve been riding Pedal Mafia for a while and was considering the Maap evo/pro.. review of your P.N.S is optional 👌🏻
Assos > all of those
I’ve tried Assos.. I’ve two pairs bought in 2011 I still use on the indoor trainer. Exceptional quality and comfort, but they look like they’re designed by a Swiss accountant.. pretentious I know, but Assos aesthetics are terrible. For similar quality I’d rather wear PM or Maap
@@Oakpathetics but they're not similar quality. Assos chamois is best in the business and their panel design is amazing. I've got both the RSR and the RS S9 Targa and they're stellar
Have you done your bike fit? 😅
Yes I raised my seat another 5cm
I'm selling my MOMO handlebar!! 400x90mm size tho. i'm from malaysia..i need a longer stem handlebar so i don't mind selling it.
When you're still talking during a climb ahahaha
I get it. It's like buying a Rolex. You either keep it at least until the end of production or you immediately sell it (with a mark-up) to people who don't want to wait.
For bikes, the first option is pointless, the latter is the way to go. You basically ride an immediate profit.
I had the same idea for my gravel bike when the market situation was bad and demand really high but too bad, I was pretty much the last person to receive one
Your reach is too long.
Seat's too high as well
Incorrect.
When you’re young to can absorb in-proper bike fit disfunction, it will catch up to you in your late 40s😢
Depends I think his neck is just too stiff
What’s the geometry like for you? You look a bit uncomfortable on camera
There’s a more so called modern geometry that SL7/8, Factor Ostro, Look RS (2023) are adopting.
To some degrees, the shortage is a good thing. Under this circumstance, there is only one type of riders who will buy new Supersix, which is the ones with at least one road bike in garage, having decent amount of money and a special taste with preference on new Supersix which let these buyer being able to withstand this long period of waiting. In short, this kind of shortage filtered out the people with herd mentality who know little about bike, hardly have riding experience and skills but still pursue premium bikes. Of course, this is good for the owner, for it increases the identity of the ownership, but for the people still in the waitinglist, it is arduously suffering.
Any clues as to what the next bike is going to be?
I’m not keeping it a secret I genuinely don’t know! 😂
If you're performance focused, I'd just get a pure aero bike right now, System Six, or a Madone.
These all arounders are just boring bikes man, unless u spend most of your time climbing, and honestly if you're above 180lbs, a lighter bike ain't exactly gonna revolutionize your climbing game, so optomize your aero, not a fan.
I'm an aero guy, but light bikes just feel better. They're fun to throw around
Best bike ever
I couldn't sell my bikes, so now I've too many at home :D
Naughty
I'm up to 11
The morale of the story, get your hands on a newly launched bike, hope that there will be a supply issue for the rest on the wait list, then sell the bike while supplies are low and demand is still high to get the money you want for it.
Smart!
Anybody notice that these roads are perfect? No potholes?
So, SL8 next? 😂😂
Waiting for my friend from HK to get one first 😉
Too bad I can't afford a Lab71
Confirm selling to fund a SL8 😂
🫣🫣🫣
@@thewinsty I guess 9 months later, it actually happened :>
@goatsinthecave 😛😛😛
I can smell the SL8😊
Are you the Speed Sniffer?
Naise ❤ SL8
😴 boring, bring back the Venge ASAP LOL, SL8'S just too tame man
Cervelo soloist 😅
Recommend the vision bars with the TT attachment for those that want to go fast.
so either Cannondale or SL8, same as BMW or Merc, no imagination sorry
Personally I don’t find Peugeot or Volkswagen very exciting, and there aren’t many exciting bikes in the market now. Which other bikes in the market do you think I should take a look at?
Get a Bianchi Oltre RC or the new Specialissima next.
Who cares about a "launch" ... the quality of the bike itself is what counts. You don't talk about bike fit, geometry, size which is a major oversight.
It’s a good quality bike but if you’re based in Singapore you would understand that nobody can buy one locally, so all the marketing hype created is pointless in the local market context. I have mentioned geometry and size in my earlier videos about this bike, also in this video about headtube angle. I don’t talk about the bike fit aspect as part of my review because it’s not really the manufacturer’s fault if the bike doesn’t fit me well, the responsibility falls on me to adjust the stem/saddle position to make it work. And even then, what fits me poorly/well may not apply for others since fit is so personal.
@@thewinsty Supply not equalling demand is not a "launch" issue. It happened in a lot of countries even now. You don't have the qualifications to comment on the bike market or technical bike aspects. Your excuses are invalid.
@@lancelink88 I don't have bike market qualifications but as a lay consumer I think companies should ensure they have the supply chain sorted before they launch a product, unless it is their intentional strategy to restrict supply but I don't think this is the case here. Let's say Apple launches the new iPhone in Sept announcing fancy features and creating lots of anticipation but by July the following year they are still saying they are out of stock and barely anyone has managed to buy their phones. In other words they launched but nobody can buy. As a lay person I would call that a launch failure. In Sg, it is not just that demand is more than supply (that is a sign of healthy sales). Rather, over here supply is pretty much zero, they say it'll come in May, then Sept, then Nov... so on. They also hyped up the handlebar in Feb but we were told "it is not ready yet, no stock has arrived" when I wanted to buy one in May. But anyway don't take the title too seriously, it is doing its job as intended haha :)
Get a Tarmac 💪
Hi bro you should get the sl8😂
asian got the last may be.
every asian I have seen on a bike for 3 decades has had the saddle too high.
You’re right it’s part of our traditional heritage