To be fair the method to originally get Spiritomb was LEGENDARILY ridiculous in the original Diamond and Pearl games if you didn't know that many people.
No Spiritomb? It doesn’t evolve, it has super mysterious lore, it has fancy means of obtaining it designed entirely for it alone, it has a super complex design… I always thought it was a legendary as a kid.
I still consider Mythicals to be a group within Legendaries, not separate from Legendaries. All Mythicals are Legendaries, not all Legendaries are Mythicals.
They're officially two separate groups. They've always been given different terms in Japan. It's just that the English version took so long to separate the two terms that the false conception had time to take root in the west.
@@wikiuser92 first time I've ever heard that. What source do you have for that? Because in English they are two seperate terms as well.....Mythical and Legendary. doesn't mean they aren't connected. One is just more specific than another. They are different terms in Japan...because they mean different things, obviuosly. Mythical is just a subset of Legendary
I think Unown are meant to be a sort of "code" that Arceus uses to build the universe. Which is why the ones in the third movie were capable of creating a new world around them, and why they're flying around chaotically in the DP movie when Dialga and Palkia are fighting in the beginning, like they're tearing apart space-time.
Probably also how Arceus communicates with the world. But I do agree with this theory and even have a point that proves it’s probably right, when you do the shinjo event and create one of the diety trio using the event Arceus you see unown flying around as you create which ever of the 3 legendaries you chose. So it definitely has at least something to do with how Arceus creates things.
In fairness though, I actually think it makes sense for the term “Legendary” to be used incorrectly and inconsistently in universe. As the term implies, they aren’t meant to be neatly classified into scientific categories, they are by nature legends. Heatran, for example, is a technically considered a legendary, but it’s really just a powerful and rare base form nonlegendary pokemon, as evidenced by the fact it can be either male or female, and thus can breed. Yet despite this, even if we scientifically classify it as a nonlegendary pokemon, it will still have legends about it. I honestly think that’s an interesting part of lore, but maybe that’s just me. Edit: Also, whoever made the mistake of labeling Delibird a Legendary Pokemon… I just have no words…
@@jakemcgoldrick3552 in game, yes. But I would personally consider that to be a feature that is only true in game, were they likely can in reality. My guess is that gamefreak didn’t want people to make an infinite amount of Heatrans via breeding, and also because they want to allow for players to breed a Heatran with perfect IVs. It wouldn’t be the first time the games don’t accurately portray the lore in universe either.
If Delibird is like Santa in Pokémon, maybe it has a story like Saint Nick does! Making it mythical or legendary? Lol I’m definitely just making up excuses for horrible oversights
@@EpicgamerwinXD6669That makes sense since you weren’t really meant to be able to get Pokemon with perfect IVs easily back then. So making Heatran a legendary so that it can’t breed is one way around that. Also, now that Iron Bundle exists, Delibird being mistaken as a legendary is way funnier.
Fun fact in gen 4 and 5 randomizers at least for a decent time period, if you were to encounter your suicune static encounter in HGSS, Or just found a roaming or literally any legendary Pokemon there was a chance the legend would be a rotom because of the fact in the games code it is given the values similar to a legendary, some also say the same happened with Spiritomh as well. Meaning you could easily lose your box legend to a Rotom or Spiritomb or turn something kinda crappy like the swords of justice or birds Into something pretty good in Rotom. Also Volcarona For Legendary Status.
Cyclizar was a fake legendary before the release of Scarlet and Violet, since almost everyone thought that it was the pre-evolution of Koraidon and Miraidon (whose status as legendaries is also debatable lore-wise). I wonder if the situation is the same with the Baby Terapagos.
I still remember going to the Haunted Chateau in Pokemon Platinum and encountering Rotom then when I caught it I was excited to catch a Legendary Pokemon! Then as I got older well I found out Rotom isn't a Legendary Pokemon still a cool Pokemon none the less.
I seem to recall a story about the trio birds and Arcainine and the reason it was a legendry pokemon. Something about the 3 birds being so far apart and arcainine being the only pokemon that could move fast enough across the country to confront them, so fast it could run on water.
When gen 4 first came out my friends and I all thought Lucario was a legendary because of the movie! So when we saw Maylene send one out we were bamboozled as to why a gym leader was using a legendary 😂
Alomomola is also false advertising, but in a different way. The way in which Alomomola serves as false advertising is that its similarities to Luvdisc make it look like it would be an evolution for Luvdisc, even though it isn't. False advertising is one of the worst things you can do when making a form of media.
I think Phione needs to be mythical since it comes from a mythical Pokémon and the whole point of mythical is that there’s no proof they’re real they’re myths
Think this is a Pokémon that should have it’s own classification outside of legendary and mythical since it’s not a mythical it’s the baby of a mythical. I suppose Cosmog could possibly be included in this classification but less so since it’s not hatched.
In the Ultimate Handbook, there's actually a section in the back which lists out every legendary Pokemon, and it's all accurate except for Rotom being included, so that's probably where a lot of others who had that handbook thought Rotom was a legendary from it
for the anime for Arcanine, I like to believe that ot wasn't only meant to show the legendary birds but just another legendary pokemon that was meant to be on its own and have no relation to the birds, but later was scrapped since they fought that having 6 would be too much for the first game
It basically boils down to whatever Pokemon the company would want to label. There are enough inconsistencies that there is no single defining metric that will label a Pokemon Legendary/Mythical.
God I wish Spiritomb had a higher BST because it feels so much like a Legendary in the way you obtain it, its appearance, its lore, etc. It may not officially be a legendary but it will always be one to me.
3:57 Scarlet/Violet's code also lists Shiinotic (マシェード MASHEEDO) as a Mythical instead of Marshadow (シャドー MAASYADOO), so it's not exactly perfect. They could've just listed Phione as a Mythical by mistake (although I don't deny the possibility of it being intentional).
I have always considered Rotom a legendary and I feel as though he was originally intended to be. Originally, there was only 1 per game, he had legendary battle music, he was grouped with the rest of the legends at the end of the Pokédex, he has all his different forms etc. I feel like later on they decided against it
Sure, Manaphy can breed, but it can only produce Phione, and Phione can't breed. Since you cannot obtain a Manaphy by breeding, Manaphy is still mythical. Phione is also still a mythical by proxy, as you need Manaphy to get Phione (excluding the side quest in PLA, but you get Manaphy there anyway).
Unown does also have an association with Suicune and Ho-oh in-game in Crystal version. In the intro for Suicune, and knowing of and needing Ho-oh to unlock secrets at the Ruins of Alph for Ho-oh. Top that with the associations with Entei and Arceus, and the mysteries and legends surrounding them, that's quite a lot.
I honestly think the term “Legendary pokémon” has lost its consistent meaning for many years, its confusion starting in gen 4 & made worse gen 7 onwards. If I could give standards for legendary pokémon, they are: - have a low population number(around 100 at maximum) - has legends around or about them that are still believed - must be stronger than most normal pokémon - has a god-like role in the world’s existence or great feats of power even in their franchise Some exceptions to this would include many mythicals, the legendary beast & golems. Others like the legendary birds, Heatran, Kubfu & Silvally line should be stripped of their title. Heck, the last one is literally being mass-produced.
I don't blame anyone who thought Rotom was a legendary Pokémon, especially when it had some traits that could fool someone into thinking it was one. It had a legendary battle theme play when you encountered it in Sinnoh, it had new forms introduced in Platinum alongside Shaymin and Giratina, and its national dex number was right in between the cross gen evolutions and the actual Sinnoh legends. The only thing that made it obvious to discount it was that it could breed.
Back in the days of gen2 there was this understanding with my friends that celebi was connected to the unown and that in fact it was the controller of them. I believe there was a magazine that had a feature on both of them ,also I think it also called the unown legendary I think, but why we thought they where connected I can not remember what the article said but maybe because they were on the same pag we just assumed.
I still have my Pokémon ultimate handbook I looked in it and in mine the “Legendary Pokémon” under rotoms name and plasma Pokémon wasn’t there even though everything else was the same
I actually thought Delibird was legendary because of that handbook, since I had never played Gold, Silver, or Crystal and HeartGold and SoulSilver hadn’t come out yet then
Lucario will always be a legendary in my heart. Although I am a little disappointed that Legends Arceus didn’t do more with Unown. It’s like they want it to remains mysterious and cryptic, but if there’s no actual mystery then it just feels forced.
That's because nobody cares about Unown these days because they suck, so even if they would do something with Unown nobody would really care unless they give it an evolution but then it's not Unown anymore...
As a kid I couldn’t decide if Rotom was a legendary or not. I still don’t know which way I see it 😅 I lean towards special but not legendary. I don’t know how I feel about the mythical group yet
I know what you said about the anime, but at one time they called Relicanth legendary. Which would be similar to calling Kabutops legendary. It's an old rock fish. That's about it.
In Pokemon mystery dungeon Explorers of Sky, Rotom's special held item (every single species of pokemon had a unique held item in that game) uses the same flavor text that held items for the other legendaries use saying something along the lines that this "legendary" pokemon dwells deep in a dungeon, and it was only obtainable through a locked door near the end of a dungeon which otherwise only happens with legendary Pokemon's held items (the 2nd part I'm not 100% sure about as its been awhile since i last replayed the game)
for me the mystical Pokemon were the 100 base on every stat Pokemon from each Generation. Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Manaphy, Shaymin, Victini. Realy Cresselia a legendary, because you catch it ingame, while Darkrai is mystical because only optained via gift Event- come on they are a Duo, a legendare Duo
i'm still not 100% on phione being a legendary or mythical. i feel it is in a similar group as carbink where it has ties to a mythical but isn't one itself.
But to get phione you have to breed a mythical Pokémon? It’s literally a baby manaphy, I feel like this problem wouldn’t exist if it could evolve into manaphy but this was the time when a legendary Pokémon evolving being unheard of.
there was also a pokemon card back in the day with Zoroark and several legendaries around it named "Zoroark and the Legendary Pokemon" that confused some kids in my summer camp
@@LuckyOwI777 it got very special attention in the anime and I was like 7 lol I also thought togetic was gonna evolve into Latias or Latios when RSE came out 😂
To be fair, I wouldn't call most of these "false advertising." Like Lucario, Zoroark, and Volcarona were more so the fans misunderstanding Game Freak's intentions. The only one's you could really say were "false advertising" are Arcanine, Unown, and maybe Rotom. Although, I'm 90% sure that Rotom having the Legendary music was an oversite. Also 5:49 That didn't stop them from putting Mewtwo on Bill's door in episode 13
A legendary is needed to get Phione, the many Meltans are pieces of Melmetal. I get those. But why is Kubfu legendary? It resembles Lucario and Zoroark
Your arcanine fact isn’t correct, there’s confirmation in a old mini figure box, it came under on the collect them all as the “original” dex sort number as legendary
Regarding Arcanine, why must Arcanine have been the original fire legendary over Moltres? Could simply have been another potential legendary alongside the 3 birds. It's majestic appearance and abnormally high stats lend credence to the idea.
What if Arcanine is just the equivilant to real world science? Maybe over time they got more common in the wild and thus don't seem to be legendary anymore, but they just kept the classification of it
Didn't the official pokedex book that got recently translated have Arcanine group with the legendary birds anyways? Maybe that's where it where the anime got the idea of putting him on the wall in episode 2?
Legendaries: They´re literal representations of forces of nature (like groudon, kyogre, yveltal, dialga, palkia, etc) that helped to shape the world and/or heroes for humanity/pokemon/ an entire region (like Zacian, Zamazenta, ho-oh, the tapus, etc). Mythical pokemon: They are not legendaries. They're really powerful pokemon with unique abilities that are so uncommon to be seen that people in the pokemon world even doubts of their existence to some extend. Their primary trait is that they're literal representations of certain myths from the real world. That´s why it can be many of them. Like Celebi which is basically a time traveler, deoxys being basically an alien, magearna being basically the embodiment of the myth of the philosopher stone, hoopa being a genie in a lamp, meloetta being a muse, etc. They all have that pretty specific myth theme for their unique abilities (instead of broad concepts as an entire force of nature) that are usually associated with specific places, towns or cities for the most part, not the entire world or an entire region. And unlike legendaries, they´re so rare that people in the pokemon world even doubts of their existence (just like the things from the myths that they´re meant to represent). And before someone asks, Arceus falls in line with the mythical pokemon. Being a representation of the theories about the origin of the universe, being seen only a few times in the entire history of the world and not being associated with a specific force of nature. It´s actually one of the reasons Silvally is a legendary instead as well. Sivally was based on what people new about Arceus in stories (a powerful pokemon able to change to any other type) but unlike Arceus, Silvally was specifically made to be a hero for the entire Alola region (to protect the region from the threat of the ultra beast). Which is what makes him a legendary pokemon. Ultra beast: They´re basically pokemon from another dimension. Not legendaries. Ultra Beasts are officially not considered Legendary Pokemon. There was a quiz in 2018 on the official website that confirmed this fact. The share a lot of traits with legendaries (like being genderless, having scripted encounters and being part of the undiscovered group, etc) but this is due to their whole concept as extra dimensional unidentified creatures. However the ultra dimension does have 3 ultra beast that are legendaries in their own dimension : solgaleo (the literal representation of the sun), lunala (the literal representation of the moon) and necrozma the literal representation of a black hole that absorbs light in (it's main form) and a super nova (in it's final form).
I'd bet that the whole "Delibird and Spinda are legendaries" thing may have actually been a sneaky joke by a Pokemon fan waiting to troll some kids into being genuinely convinced that they were legendaries to the point where they'd Action Replay them in and try to use them online. On the plus side, Volcarona is now in Ubers so at least he can pretend to be a legendary.
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What is your favorite fake legendary? ....Do I need to say mine?
Arcanine (fluffy dog) , and rotom(my home appliances)
My favorite has to be lucario
The rona
Volcarona
Arcanine definitly
To be fair the method to originally get Spiritomb was LEGENDARILY ridiculous in the original Diamond and Pearl games if you didn't know that many people.
I literally thought it was legendary until gen 7 ngl
It should have been legendary IMO. Fits better than Heatran
I thought it was a mythical because of how it’s obtained in oras, I didnt even know you could breed spiritomb until recently
Yep! Catching Spiritomb was the only thing I was missing for the Gold trainer card! Curse you, Spiritomb!
@@brandonm8901 It's gonna curse you back :P
9:09
Oh no the sun's gone! What do we do?
-I dunno, I got this moth?
No Spiritomb? It doesn’t evolve, it has super mysterious lore, it has fancy means of obtaining it designed entirely for it alone, it has a super complex design… I always thought it was a legendary as a kid.
He mentioned it near the beginning of the video
@@KerzacTransformed no he didn't
I still consider Mythicals to be a group within Legendaries, not separate from Legendaries.
All Mythicals are Legendaries, not all Legendaries are Mythicals.
I think that’s official as well. As there have been various instances of mythical Pokémon referred to as Legendaries
@@LuckyOwI777some mythical Pokemon became legendary Pokemon Like Deoxys
All mythicals r legendaries n im willing 2 go 2 war behind that
They're officially two separate groups. They've always been given different terms in Japan. It's just that the English version took so long to separate the two terms that the false conception had time to take root in the west.
@@wikiuser92 first time I've ever heard that. What source do you have for that?
Because in English they are two seperate terms as well.....Mythical and Legendary. doesn't mean they aren't connected. One is just more specific than another.
They are different terms in Japan...because they mean different things, obviuosly. Mythical is just a subset of Legendary
Rotom is the only one that I truly wish had “stayed” a legendary.
I think Unown are meant to be a sort of "code" that Arceus uses to build the universe. Which is why the ones in the third movie were capable of creating a new world around them, and why they're flying around chaotically in the DP movie when Dialga and Palkia are fighting in the beginning, like they're tearing apart space-time.
Probably also how Arceus communicates with the world. But I do agree with this theory and even have a point that proves it’s probably right, when you do the shinjo event and create one of the diety trio using the event Arceus you see unown flying around as you create which ever of the 3 legendaries you chose. So it definitely has at least something to do with how Arceus creates things.
Pretty much confirmed. Arceus is the programmer and the unowns are the programming language.
Volcarona is so majestic that they deserve to be an legendary
In fairness though, I actually think it makes sense for the term “Legendary” to be used incorrectly and inconsistently in universe. As the term implies, they aren’t meant to be neatly classified into scientific categories, they are by nature legends. Heatran, for example, is a technically considered a legendary, but it’s really just a powerful and rare base form nonlegendary pokemon, as evidenced by the fact it can be either male or female, and thus can breed. Yet despite this, even if we scientifically classify it as a nonlegendary pokemon, it will still have legends about it. I honestly think that’s an interesting part of lore, but maybe that’s just me.
Edit: Also, whoever made the mistake of labeling Delibird a Legendary Pokemon… I just have no words…
Heatran is in the undiscovered egg group so it can’t breed.
@@jakemcgoldrick3552 in game, yes. But I would personally consider that to be a feature that is only true in game, were they likely can in reality. My guess is that gamefreak didn’t want people to make an infinite amount of Heatrans via breeding, and also because they want to allow for players to breed a Heatran with perfect IVs. It wouldn’t be the first time the games don’t accurately portray the lore in universe either.
If Delibird is like Santa in Pokémon, maybe it has a story like Saint Nick does! Making it mythical or legendary? Lol I’m definitely just making up excuses for horrible oversights
@@EpicgamerwinXD6669That makes sense since you weren’t really meant to be able to get Pokemon with perfect IVs easily back then. So making Heatran a legendary so that it can’t breed is one way around that.
Also, now that Iron Bundle exists, Delibird being mistaken as a legendary is way funnier.
@@EpicgamerwinXD6669 Ah, like a lugia situation
I remember thinking zoroark 100% was a legendary until i found a zoura in petalburg forest in ORAS at the start of the post game
Lance: "You know that dragons are mythical Pokemon."
Me: "I know the league should fire you for lying to kids."
When I was a child, I though Absol was a Legendary.
Absol.
Fun fact in gen 4 and 5 randomizers at least for a decent time period, if you were to encounter your suicune static encounter in HGSS, Or just found a roaming or literally any legendary Pokemon there was a chance the legend would be a rotom because of the fact in the games code it is given the values similar to a legendary, some also say the same happened with Spiritomh as well.
Meaning you could easily lose your box legend to a Rotom or Spiritomb or turn something kinda crappy like the swords of justice or birds Into something pretty good in Rotom.
Also
Volcarona For Legendary Status.
I remember MahDryBread having his Lugia encounter be replaced with Rotom in his and whattageek's HGSS randomizer.
Honestly Rotom and Volcarona feel more like a Legendary Pokemon than Type:Null does!
1:00 and the Manga states Rotom as Legendary as well.
Unknown is classified as Legendary in LeafGreens Pokedex as well, for some reason.
Cyclizar was a fake legendary before the release of Scarlet and Violet, since almost everyone thought that it was the pre-evolution of Koraidon and Miraidon (whose status as legendaries is also debatable lore-wise).
I wonder if the situation is the same with the Baby Terapagos.
I mean I mean, he's kinnnnnnnda the pre-evo of Miraidon and the Evolution of Koraidon hahahaha
I was one of those kids who thought Lucario was a legendary as a kid and this is exactly why
I still remember going to the Haunted Chateau in Pokemon Platinum and encountering Rotom then when I caught it I was excited to catch a Legendary Pokemon! Then as I got older well I found out Rotom isn't a Legendary Pokemon still a cool Pokemon none the less.
1:16 The only thing I remember about that book is that my teacher confiscated it and I never got it back. Thank you for reopening that old wound 😢
I seem to recall a story about the trio birds and Arcainine and the reason it was a legendry pokemon. Something about the 3 birds being so far apart and arcainine being the only pokemon that could move fast enough across the country to confront them, so fast it could run on water.
When gen 4 first came out my friends and I all thought Lucario was a legendary because of the movie! So when we saw Maylene send one out we were bamboozled as to why a gym leader was using a legendary 😂
Alomomola is also false advertising, but in a different way. The way in which Alomomola serves as false advertising is that its similarities to Luvdisc make it look like it would be an evolution for Luvdisc, even though it isn't. False advertising is one of the worst things you can do when making a form of media.
I think Phione needs to be mythical since it comes from a mythical Pokémon and the whole point of mythical is that there’s no proof they’re real they’re myths
Think this is a Pokémon that should have it’s own classification outside of legendary and mythical since it’s not a mythical it’s the baby of a mythical. I suppose Cosmog could possibly be included in this classification but less so since it’s not hatched.
Arcanine is probably one of my favorite "legendaries," and it's Hisuian form is basically it's mega evolution.
You just wanted an excuse to put Arcanine in the Thumbnail lol
you're dang right I did
“Make mythicals great again!” Bouta be JPRs new campaign slogan for the channel. 😂😂
"Nobody makes makes mythical pokemon better than I can"
In the Ultimate Handbook, there's actually a section in the back which lists out every legendary Pokemon, and it's all accurate except for Rotom being included, so that's probably where a lot of others who had that handbook thought Rotom was a legendary from it
“Little did she know that she was reading the Diamond and Pearl scholastic handbook” LOOOOL
I thought Rotom was legendary as a kid purely because of the battle intro when you encounter it
for the anime for Arcanine, I like to believe that ot wasn't only meant to show the legendary birds but just another legendary pokemon that was meant to be on its own and have no relation to the birds, but later was scrapped since they fought that having 6 would be too much for the first game
These Pokémon get so hyped up with movies and events. Game Freak needs to be clearer with what is Legendary and what isn't...
Volcarona literally "The Sun Pokemon" No legendary
"Iron Headed Magma Frog" A Legendary Pokemon
I'm sorry. But Heatran shouldn't be a Legendary Pokemon. There's nothing Legendary about it.
@@jaretco6423 Tell that to the competitive scene...
@@V-Jes That has nothing to do with that.
It basically boils down to whatever Pokemon the company would want to label. There are enough inconsistencies that there is no single defining metric that will label a Pokemon Legendary/Mythical.
God I wish Spiritomb had a higher BST because it feels so much like a Legendary in the way you obtain it, its appearance, its lore, etc. It may not officially be a legendary but it will always be one to me.
Imagine if it had 108 HP too. It's be so tanky!
3:57 Scarlet/Violet's code also lists Shiinotic (マシェード MASHEEDO) as a Mythical instead of Marshadow (シャドー MAASYADOO), so it's not exactly perfect. They could've just listed Phione as a Mythical by mistake (although I don't deny the possibility of it being intentional).
Shiinotoc'a case is an error most likely
I have always considered Rotom a legendary and I feel as though he was originally intended to be. Originally, there was only 1 per game, he had legendary battle music, he was grouped with the rest of the legends at the end of the Pokédex, he has all his different forms etc. I feel like later on they decided against it
The only one you really missed was Spiritomb. It always came across as Legendary to me and my friends along with Rotom.
When there were thousands of Shaymins at the end of Giratina & the Sky Warrior I was *SO MAD* lol
If Delibird is our stand in for Santa it makes perfect sense to be a legendary
I believe Arcanine was originally meant to be the "beast" type legendary, not really legendary for its fire typing
The Ultimate Handbook which I still have swapped the names of Porygon and Porygon 2.
lucario was even one of the box art "legendaries" for pokemon ranger shadows of almia
I still believe that half of these Pokemon are at least mythical and no one can tell me otherwise.
Unown are in the legendary Pokemon category of Firered and Leafgreen
FireRed and LeafGreen has Unown in the Legendary section of its weird Pokédex
Sure, Manaphy can breed, but it can only produce Phione, and Phione can't breed. Since you cannot obtain a Manaphy by breeding, Manaphy is still mythical. Phione is also still a mythical by proxy, as you need Manaphy to get Phione (excluding the side quest in PLA, but you get Manaphy there anyway).
This
Unown does also have an association with Suicune and Ho-oh in-game in Crystal version. In the intro for Suicune, and knowing of and needing Ho-oh to unlock secrets at the Ruins of Alph for Ho-oh. Top that with the associations with Entei and Arceus, and the mysteries and legends surrounding them, that's quite a lot.
Did you know that phione has the same stats as glaile I thought that was kinda funny
I honestly think the term “Legendary pokémon” has lost its consistent meaning for many years, its confusion starting in gen 4 & made worse gen 7 onwards.
If I could give standards for legendary pokémon, they are:
- have a low population number(around 100 at maximum)
- has legends around or about them that are still believed
- must be stronger than most normal pokémon
- has a god-like role in the world’s existence or great feats of power even in their franchise
Some exceptions to this would include many mythicals, the legendary beast & golems.
Others like the legendary birds, Heatran, Kubfu & Silvally line should be stripped of their title. Heck, the last one is literally being mass-produced.
Always thought that the Ultra Beats were legendaries.
Did my mans just call a sixteen-year-old Pokemon "relatively new"?
I don't blame anyone who thought Rotom was a legendary Pokémon, especially when it had some traits that could fool someone into thinking it was one.
It had a legendary battle theme play when you encountered it in Sinnoh, it had new forms introduced in Platinum alongside Shaymin and Giratina, and its national dex number was right in between the cross gen evolutions and the actual Sinnoh legends. The only thing that made it obvious to discount it was that it could breed.
LINO Legendary in Name Only
That's an Electabuzz though, an electric tiger legendary, or it's a preview of Raikou
Back in the days of gen2 there was this understanding with my friends that celebi was connected to the unown and that in fact it was the controller of them. I believe there was a magazine that had a feature on both of them ,also I think it also called the unown legendary I think, but why we thought they where connected I can not remember what the article said but maybe because they were on the same pag we just assumed.
I still have my Pokémon ultimate handbook I looked in it and in mine the “Legendary Pokémon” under rotoms name and plasma Pokémon wasn’t there even though everything else was the same
I actually thought Delibird was legendary because of that handbook, since I had never played Gold, Silver, or Crystal and HeartGold and SoulSilver hadn’t come out yet then
I think we need a 3rd group here. Pokémon who are considered a legendary and/or mythical but can breed and/or evolve :)
Lucario will always be a legendary in my heart. Although I am a little disappointed that Legends Arceus didn’t do more with Unown. It’s like they want it to remains mysterious and cryptic, but if there’s no actual mystery then it just feels forced.
That's because nobody cares about Unown these days because they suck, so even if they would do something with Unown nobody would really care unless they give it an evolution but then it's not Unown anymore...
@@V-Jesthey could make an evo where it’s all 28 forms of unown combined but I do agree no one really cares for them anymore besides to fill the dex.
My favorite is Volcorona. When I saw it for the first time, I was so excited. Thought it was a legend for years
As a kid I couldn’t decide if Rotom was a legendary or not. I still don’t know which way I see it 😅 I lean towards special but not legendary. I don’t know how I feel about the mythical group yet
Why isn't Carbink Diancies pre-evolution at this point? 💎
Remember when almost everyone thought Lucario was a Legendary? It debuted super early in the anime (as early as the Season 8 opening)
I know what you said about the anime, but at one time they called Relicanth legendary. Which would be similar to calling Kabutops legendary. It's an old rock fish. That's about it.
In Pokemon mystery dungeon Explorers of Sky, Rotom's special held item (every single species of pokemon had a unique held item in that game) uses the same flavor text that held items for the other legendaries use saying something along the lines that this "legendary" pokemon dwells deep in a dungeon, and it was only obtainable through a locked door near the end of a dungeon which otherwise only happens with legendary Pokemon's held items (the 2nd part I'm not 100% sure about as its been awhile since i last replayed the game)
for me the mystical Pokemon were the 100 base on every stat Pokemon from each Generation. Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Manaphy, Shaymin, Victini. Realy Cresselia a legendary, because you catch it ingame, while Darkrai is mystical because only optained via gift Event- come on they are a Duo, a legendare Duo
i'm still not 100% on phione being a legendary or mythical. i feel it is in a similar group as carbink where it has ties to a mythical but isn't one itself.
It’s literally a Mythical Pokémon. Now, whether or not you think of mythical Pokémon as a subset of Legendary Pokémon is different
But to get phione you have to breed a mythical Pokémon? It’s literally a baby manaphy, I feel like this problem wouldn’t exist if it could evolve into manaphy but this was the time when a legendary Pokémon evolving being unheard of.
there was also a pokemon card back in the day with Zoroark and several legendaries around it named "Zoroark and the Legendary Pokemon" that confused some kids in my summer camp
I swear I thought Lucario and Rotom were legendries for a good amount of time growing up with Gen 4.
Love the music from Pokemon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea
I thought togepi was going to be in this video lol I always thought togepi was a legendary Pokémon as a kid
That’s a new one, lol
@@LuckyOwI777 it got very special attention in the anime and I was like 7 lol I also thought togetic was gonna evolve into Latias or Latios when RSE came out 😂
Is Phione a Legendary/Mythical Pokémon?
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To be fair, I wouldn't call most of these "false advertising." Like Lucario, Zoroark, and Volcarona were more so the fans misunderstanding Game Freak's intentions.
The only one's you could really say were "false advertising" are Arcanine, Unown, and maybe Rotom. Although, I'm 90% sure that Rotom having the Legendary music was an oversite.
Also 5:49 That didn't stop them from putting Mewtwo on Bill's door in episode 13
Omg I remember the diamond and pearl handbook! Did not realize the many errors lol.
A legendary is needed to get Phione, the many Meltans are pieces of Melmetal. I get those. But why is Kubfu legendary? It resembles Lucario and Zoroark
The legendary vs mythical distinction is based solely on the pokedex requirement and had no in universe meaning
I read that handbook so many times the pages started falling out
i remember as a kid breeding a ton of phione because i thought they were legendary
You didn’t mention that arcanine is classified as the legendary Pokémon
That's its species name just like Pikachu being the mouse Pokémon
4:00 Well, that settles it, Phione IS a Mythical. Scarlet is more official than Home/Bank, so Gamfreak says it's Mythical, so it's a mythical.
I never forget when a handbook gave luxray cherries moveset
Kid me was so confused
Your arcanine fact isn’t correct, there’s confirmation in a old mini figure box, it came under on the collect them all as the “original” dex sort number as legendary
I remember thinking Absol was a legendary when I first caught it back in the day. Man was I pretty disappointed when I found out
Especially given how much dark type sucked back in Gen 3 before the special/physical move update
Regarding Arcanine, why must Arcanine have been the original fire legendary over Moltres? Could simply have been another potential legendary alongside the 3 birds. It's majestic appearance and abnormally high stats lend credence to the idea.
Nahhhhhhhhhhh not the president meme omg that caught me so off guard haha
Only one of these fake legends I thought was a legendary was Volcarona and it is in fact my favorite among them
What if Arcanine is just the equivilant to real world science? Maybe over time they got more common in the wild and thus don't seem to be legendary anymore, but they just kept the classification of it
I always thought Delibird was a legendary but could never remember where I read it until now!
It's still so crazy to me that type:null is legendary...
5:59 Would Game Freak have really thrown a fit if they put Mew on the mural?
Unowns were listed in the legendary category in the FireRed Pokedex.
Didn't the official pokedex book that got recently translated have Arcanine group with the legendary birds anyways? Maybe that's where it where the anime got the idea of putting him on the wall in episode 2?
The presidental bit was pretty funny, then they name dropped JPR and I lost it 💀
Bro the AI presidents is incredible, great work dude
Scholastic Book Fair that takes me back
pkmn cards even say that arcanine is a pkmn in the legendary category
Maybe a video on actual pseudo-legendaries and/or pseudo-mythicals soon among times?
Legendaries: They´re literal representations of forces of nature (like groudon, kyogre, yveltal, dialga, palkia, etc) that helped to shape the world and/or heroes for humanity/pokemon/ an entire region (like Zacian, Zamazenta, ho-oh, the tapus, etc).
Mythical pokemon: They are not legendaries. They're really powerful pokemon with unique abilities that are so uncommon to be seen that people in the pokemon world even doubts of their existence to some extend. Their primary trait is that they're literal representations of certain myths from the real world. That´s why it can be many of them. Like Celebi which is basically a time traveler, deoxys being basically an alien, magearna being basically the embodiment of the myth of the philosopher stone, hoopa being a genie in a lamp, meloetta being a muse, etc. They all have that pretty specific myth theme for their unique abilities (instead of broad concepts as an entire force of nature) that are usually associated with specific places, towns or cities for the most part, not the entire world or an entire region. And unlike legendaries, they´re so rare that people in the pokemon world even doubts of their existence (just like the things from the myths that they´re meant to represent). And before someone asks, Arceus falls in line with the mythical pokemon. Being a representation of the theories about the origin of the universe, being seen only a few times in the entire history of the world and not being associated with a specific force of nature. It´s actually one of the reasons Silvally is a legendary instead as well. Sivally was based on what people new about Arceus in stories (a powerful pokemon able to change to any other type) but unlike Arceus, Silvally was specifically made to be a hero for the entire Alola region (to protect the region from the threat of the ultra beast). Which is what makes him a legendary pokemon.
Ultra beast: They´re basically pokemon from another dimension. Not legendaries. Ultra Beasts are officially not considered Legendary Pokemon. There was a quiz in 2018 on the official website that confirmed this fact. The share a lot of traits with legendaries (like being genderless, having scripted encounters and being part of the undiscovered group, etc) but this is due to their whole concept as extra dimensional unidentified creatures. However the ultra dimension does have 3 ultra beast that are legendaries in their own dimension : solgaleo (the literal representation of the sun), lunala (the literal representation of the moon) and necrozma the literal representation of a black hole that absorbs light in (it's main form) and a super nova (in it's final form).
I'd bet that the whole "Delibird and Spinda are legendaries" thing may have actually been a sneaky joke by a Pokemon fan waiting to troll some kids into being genuinely convinced that they were legendaries to the point where they'd Action Replay them in and try to use them online.
On the plus side, Volcarona is now in Ubers so at least he can pretend to be a legendary.
Using the Pokemon anime decide what is a legendary Pokemon is like using the Yu-Gi-Oh anime to learn how to play Yu-Gi-Oh.