We agree 100%. Our whole purpose is to “demystify” things so that people “get it”... and then can get out and dance. Thanks you for being here and supporting the channel!
I have to say I do love yalls content. I can play music but never learned to dance and have a fairly internal grasp on counts and beats and rythm. A lot of videos I have watched don't really break down the counts the way you do. As a musician I loved the part in the video where you break everything down into 2/4 or 1/2 time. I wont forget I made a bunch of people at country bar raise their eyebrows when i danced salsa to some country music.
Brilliant! Turn (2 beats) - Triple (2 beats) - Rock (2 beats) is so much easier & intuitive to follow than any of the numerous other ways I've been taught this.
Wow, your left and right turn rule is awesome! I have never heard of this from any instructor, live or online. This rules makes remembering the figures so much easier. Your videos are fantastic. Thank you so much!
You guys are awesome! I started learning dance step when I was 11; basic square waltz, basic lindy, basic Texas two-step and so on. I built on all that through the years with jitterbug, shag and some swing. I'm 55 now and have tried teaching my wife to dance with me for years. This video was a breakthrough for us! Keep doing this! Those of us who watch and learn are not prone to going to dance studios for lessons. This was so awesome that I'm referring friends and family to you. Thank you so much!
Excellent / First Class video! I took ECS lessons 35 years ago (yes I am old) but even at 70, I still dance 2-3 times a week. I found this video HELPFUL!
As someone who teaches Jive, this is such a helpful tip. Many people get confused when we say turn on the 4, resolve on 5 a 6, and the like. Breaking it into sections like this just makes sense.
Hey thanks for making this video! I about a month I'm going to a swing dance with some friend and absolutely none of us know what we're doing so I think this video out of all the others might be the game changer!
I am very impressed by your instruction. I can dance it but I don't think I could ever break it down and teach it. East Coast Swing is one of my favourites.
You guys are AMAZING teachers! Your WCS videos have made THE ABSOLUTE DIFFERENCE in my learning! You make is SIMPLE! And of course this video is great as well!
Thank you Anthony for your excellent explanations and conceptualizations! I've never heard the 'section 1, section 2, section 3' before but it makes so much sense and as a leader, really helps me feel variations much better. You and Rose are a great team. Cheers from Norcal!
Thank you so much for watching and your encouragement! We’re so glad this has been helpful for you :-) Let us know if there’s anything we can do to help.
Very Excellent explanation of the basic step. ... and it counts up to 6. ...Exactly as I teach it. And the London Jive is the same, but just has a different style ...
So glad I found you both!!! I’m a retired PE teacher. Loved teaching swing to my kiddos. Getting ready to teach adults at my local parks and Rec but it’s been a few years! Great stuff- excited to get back in the swing😆😉!
I've never danced a step (with any idea of what I was doing) ... This is a great first session (well, a great first lesson that I'm sure I'll be doing over and over for starters) ... Thanks.
WOW! I need to get to your school with my wife. We just move here to Katy We struggled with swing lessons a couple of years ago and I'm now doing better with some two-step. I still want to add swing and this is so much simpler. I will look into the school. Thank you for your lessons.
Thank you for watching! We’re so glad you enjoyed it. Welcome to the area. We have 2 studios that are probably about the same distance from you and we’d love to help.
This is great! We’ve been doing the basic for so long and now should be able to add some cool turns and holds. Thanks for making it easier. And thanks for the wonderful instructions. You’re so easy to follow!
Will you incorporate a West Coast move from James Bartlett and Lauren Jones into an East Coast routine? The Midland Swing open 2022 at about 1:40 showing the double turn then end with a rock step instead of the underarm rotation they perform. Thanks
This is so awesome! You just made this so much easier. We went to our first instructional swing dance last night. (super fun) but this made it easier! Thanks!
I just started to learn all this dancing thing, I can see I have so much to learn. Going to start practicing your moves. You got me dude, subscribed. Thanks for share. Great content.
@@countrydancex Then I started Salsa. I forgot all the movements of the West Coast Swing. lol I have a question for you guys. Do you guys dance the Barn Dances aka Square Dances?
Thank you so much for this! :-) Y’all are very helpful! So I feel really curious about what you talked about at 10:53 because I think I learned that somewhere!! “Triple step rock step triple step rock step”(you said Lindy Rhythm?) I’m wondering if you can go into detail about it?! Or if you already have any videos about that? I was trying to find info on it anywhere on the Internet and I cannot find those specific steps in any videos! Thank you!!:)
At 5:30 when rocking, back can you instead walk toward her into her rock back so you're virtually embracing her in her rock back then you rock back, triple step then recover?
It seems like the dance studio I take lessons from teaches everything different. They teach the rock step as being quick and the side step slow - being slow slow quick quick. I like the counting on this video with the rock step being slow because it’s easier coming coming out of spins with a slow rock step.
It almost sounds like you’re talking about what is called “Single Time”. Instead of a triple step, you would take a single slow count to the side. That’s a perfectly valid style as well. There are actually 3 styles of East Coast Swing. Single, double, and triple rhythms. The good news is that the structure and patterns are mostly the same.
Thanks for the video. The steps shown in this video look like 'JIVE' steps. What is main difference between 'East coast swing' and 'West coast swing' ? Any difference of steps ? Otherwise move (pass, turn) style is different ?
That's actually a great observation. The basic steps of ECS and Jive are pretty much the same ... the styling is a little different. Jive is actually a European copycat version of ECS. ECS and WCS both are derived from Lindy Hop. They are, however, quite different. Both ECS and Jive are danced "circular", while WCS is danced in a linear slot. We do have several WCS basic steps videos here on our channel as well.
I've been considering making my own set of videos for a long time, but have been too lazy to do so, I like your production here tho. You're clear movement and way of explaining things makes it real easy to follow along. I like how you explain the turns in blocks of timing. As a teacher, I think setting "rules" like "left turns always happen on 1st triple" and "right turns on the 2nd is a good" are a good rule of thumb to get people started. Once people are at a comfy point with their rules I think it's good to break them to show deeper truths like "you can turn in either direction on either foot." It just means the follow's foot will travel "in front" (aka the easy way) around their standing foot, or "backwards" (aka the hard way) behind their standing foot. I have a whole break down of how this looks in Lindy on my website it interests you to see it message me and I'll send you a link. Congrats on the great video!
We’ve enjoyed making these videos so far. You should definitely give it a try! It’s a lot of work, but fun to do. What we’re teaching here is a general overview of lead and follow social dance. “Could” we turn at another time or on the other foot. Yes, we “could”. But “could” is different than “should”. We “could” drop down in the middle of the song and do the worm. Hahaha Of course, performance/competition choreography could contain any number of elements that break away from the agreed upon structure that communication (lead/follow) are based upon. But that’s choreography and not dependent on following on the fly. Basically, in choreography you could do anything as long as you can maintain the character of the dance. In social dance, that’s not always the case (unless the 2 partners have practiced certain movements together... but even then they’re really just breaking away from lead/follow and have begun dancing by “pattern recognition”). Our ultimate goal here is to get as many people to be able to dance comfortably and confidently and grow the dance community. We don’t profit from these videos. In fact they cost us thousands of dollars every month to produce them. We’d love to see your videos if you decide to give it a try! Send us some over :-)
Great Video. We learned a lot. As an aside can you tell us a definite difference or at least a clear explanation of the difference between "East Coast Swing," "Jive" and "Jitterbug?" Thanks. Look forward to making one of your excellent classes.
Thanks for watching and a great question. Someone else asked the same thing, so we’ll just give you the same answer :-) The Jive is basically a branch away from East Coast Swing (which branched away from Lindy). The steps, rhythm, and structure of ECS and Jive are essentially the same. The difference lies primarily in style. ECS tends to be more grounded while Jive is higher in the knees and lilt (bounce). Jive music also tends to be much faster. “Jitterbug” is a loose term. It’s basically single time ECS... but styling varies wildly depending on the music and geographic region.
Hi there. We may eventually. However, you'll want to look for "Triple Two Step" rather than "Progressive Double Two Step". Different names, same dance. If/when we do produce a video for it, it will be called Triple Two Step since that is the more common and "official" name :-)
Hi! I'm kind of new to dancing and this video helped to give me an idea of east coast swing, but I'm still confused over the timing, since you said there are 3 sections of 2 beats of music, I'm just confused for how that applies to songs with 4 beats of music since everytime I count, as the steps seem to be all over the place in terms of counting (I'm trying to choreograph my own east coast swing dance and confusion is giving me a lot of headaches). I'm hoping you could give some insight or explain
We’ve been asked that question before. The answer is actually pretty simple. East coast swing IS a 6 count pattern danced to a 4 count song... but so is Two Step and WCS. You just have to start thinking of it in 2 beat increments. Like 1 2, 1 2. There’s a down beat and an up beat. You can start dancing on any odd numbered count.
@@countrydancex It's the name of the dance AND it is a partner switch because it's a mixer. Try this one which is porely done but you'll get the idea. ua-cam.com/users/results?search_query=couples+dance+Swing+Switch+country+line
That's a great question! The Jive is basically a branch away from East Coast Swing (which branched away from Lindy). The steps, rhythm, and structure of ECS and Jive are essentially the same. The difference lies primarily in style. ECS tends to be more grounded while Jive is higher in the knees and lilt (bounce). Jive music also tends to be much faster.
@@countrydancex thank you so much for your prompt reply - that makes sense, love your videos by the way, your approach is very intuitive. I myself am Square- and Round-Dancer so I don't have a lot of experience in following a leader while dancing - that is something I will have to get used to 😊
Hi there. We use stock music due to copyright laws... so the stuff we use has likely never had airplay. Sometimes some of it sounds like other music, though :-)
There are lots of Motown and contemporary blues songs you can do this dance to. “If There Is A Heaven” by Joe Louis Walker, “It’s All Right” by The Impressions, “Don’t Mess With Bill” by The Marvelletes, “ I Wonder Why” by Debbie Davies, etc.
so i could be wrong but i would say an exception to this would be that you dont need to triple step for east coast. so this may work for that particular flavor of east coast but some is not triple step
Thanks for watching and for the feedback! There are actually 3 versions of ECS. This is what is typically referred to as “triple swing”. Another popular version is “single swing” which is typically done when the music is significantly faster. It simply replaces the 2 beats of the triple step with a single step held for 2 counts. The other, less common version, is “double swing” which is done by replacing the triples with tap steps (still 2 counts). All three versions have exactly the same structure. 3 sections of 2 beats of music. Left turns and right turns still happen on the same section regardless of whether you’re spending those 2 beats doing a triple step, single step, or tap step.
@@countrydancex cool! i didnt know about double swing and yeah i wasnt meaning that the rest of it wasnt right, just that u dont have to triple step for it to be ecs but cool! thanks for ur reply! again it was a neat video, the way you broke it all down!
@@countrydancex thanks for the fast answer! I learned in a European dance school and as part of the "ballroom" package, so I was wondering about the naming ^^ just checked out your west coast swing video, that seems to be a similar concept as well. I think I'll be binging your videos now 😄
I’m curious as to why, when I look up East Coast swing, I can never find people teaching the basic as: rock step, right touch, left touch (6 counts). I’ve been to swing out events on the East Coast, and everybody dances with the technique I just described. Never seen this one in practice before
There are 3 styles of ECS. You're referring to what is called double time ECS. That is actually pretty uncommon. We sometimes dance that style when we're really tired and being lazy haha. The 2 most common types are this one (triple time) which is the main style danced in country and in ballroom (American Rhythm), and single time (danced to big band style swing music mostly in the retro swing communities along with Lindy Hop/Balboa etc)
When you say turn to the left or right please mention is the turn an inside turn or outside turn. When you say turn to the Left/right, is the turn the direction to the man's left or the woman's left.
Hi there. We always appreciate input. In this case, however, left/right turn would obviously refer to the person who is turning. On that note, left or right is the same direction regardless of man/woman. Turn turn left, your nose moves toward your left shoulder. To turn right, your nose moves toward your right shoulder. Left is always counter-clockwise. Right is always clockwise. A clock moves the same direction for both partners.
When I was learning to dance in the early 60’s down in FL. We were doing the Lindy Hop. Then my dad had to transfer to Holyoke, MA. When I got there I stood out with my sneakers and Bobby socks. Luckily I didn’t have poodle. The girls were wearing stockings or knee high socks. My drawl was evident along with yes sir, and yes mam. Natural alien to these kids and plenty of mean spirited making fun of me ? But I didn’t expect they didn’t do the lindy dance steps. Of course more reason to call me hillbilly. Anyone not like them and you must come from some alien space. Obviously, the odd ball I never figured out what dance they did. Eventually the various TV shows came I stood there trying to learn their moves. But I never heard or saw the Lindy. I was only 12 when we moved. Much later we’ll into my 40’s I watched swing dancers who often showed their moves whether they were single or couple. Moving so fast and stylizing I did recognized it. The Lindy I final noticed it but no one mentioned Lindy. They kept saying swing. Well, I know these great COVID videos for learning dances I finally hearing the Lindy. Thanks
Arthur Murray Dance Studios had a half hour TV show with Kathryn Murray, (Arthur's wife) as the hostess back in the early 1960's when I taught for Arthur Murrays in San Diego. I hate to break it to ya... but when you syncopate that (1-2-3 or 1 & 2) basic step and carry it all the way thru the dance you have just turned the basic jitterbug which is East Coast Swing into the West Coast style Swing.! YEP! Go ahead and google Arthur Murray Studios. I am 82 now and still dance... I would like to give you a little styling tip.... please stop "prancing" or bouncing...(maybe they do that for country music) keep your posture smooth like the models are taught to walk with a book on their head. Find a studio in your city and learn some styling. Always love to see folks dancing. The best 2 exercises are still dancing and swimming because you use ALL your muscles. Have fun. Oh and get down off your toes for the swing, dance on the balls of your feet. I taught Foxtrot, Waltz, Swing, Rumba, Mambo, Cha Cha Cha, Tango, Meringue and sometimes in Saturday group class I would teach some Charleston.
Thank you for watching and contributing. Of course, we’ll have to agree to disagree with pretty much everything you said. I (Anthony) also worked for Arthur Murray. I am also a Gold certified instructor. Thanks again for watching.
I like this question. Most people dance ecs starting with the triple step, but many instructors teach it starting with the rock. The reason why is pretty simple. when you start with a rock step, you can go straight into any variation right from the start. If you start with the triple, you would have to do a basic step first before many variations. For example, you couldn’t prep a right turn and start with a triple step since they happen at the same time, but you could start with a right turn by beginning with the rock. But honestly, it is a six count dance danced in two count increments to a four count song and you can start on any section you want. It doesn’t match the phrasing of the music anyway :-)
My husband took dance lessons for 2 years and still couldn't dance, after seeing this video he finally can. Thanks so much.
Same, this video makes it so much easier!
Great job of keeping dance instruction uncomplicated. The less thinking a leader has to do on the dance floor the better the results.
We agree 100%. Our whole purpose is to “demystify” things so that people “get it”... and then can get out and dance.
Thanks you for being here and supporting the channel!
Thank you!!!😍🥰
I have to say I do love yalls content. I can play music but never learned to dance and have a fairly internal grasp on counts and beats and rythm. A lot of videos I have watched don't really break down the counts the way you do. As a musician I loved the part in the video where you break everything down into 2/4 or 1/2 time. I wont forget I made a bunch of people at country bar raise their eyebrows when i danced salsa to some country music.
Brilliant! Turn (2 beats) - Triple (2 beats) - Rock (2 beats) is so much easier & intuitive to follow than any of the numerous other ways I've been taught this.
We love to hear that! We’re so glad it helped :-)
Thank you for watching and dropping us some positivity.
6:40 I’m marking this for myself. Great video! Thank you. 😊
Wow, your left and right turn rule is awesome! I have never heard of this from any instructor, live or online. This rules makes remembering the figures so much easier. Your videos are fantastic. Thank you so much!
Love to hear that it was helpful! Thank you for joining us :-)
You guys are awesome! I started learning dance step when I was 11; basic square waltz, basic lindy, basic Texas two-step and so on. I built on all that through the years with jitterbug, shag and some swing. I'm 55 now and have tried teaching my wife to dance with me for years. This video was a breakthrough for us! Keep doing this! Those of us who watch and learn are not prone to going to dance studios for lessons. This was so awesome that I'm referring friends and family to you. Thank you so much!
Excellent / First Class video! I took ECS lessons 35 years ago (yes I am old) but even at 70, I still dance 2-3 times a week. I found this video HELPFUL!
Awesome lesson!
As an engineer/mathematician, this resonates deeply!! 😍😍
You are Anthony's people. hahahaha! Thank you
I’m a math person too and agree 100%. I can tell if I goofed a pattern because it didn’t count out correctly.
I love East Coast Swing. I learned this in 1993…
And it's still fun!
Wife and i did too
As someone who teaches Jive, this is such a helpful tip. Many people get confused when we say turn on the 4, resolve on 5 a 6, and the like. Breaking it into sections like this just makes sense.
Thank you so much! My husband and I are learning from this tutorial . It is definitely the best one I have ever seen
Glad it was helpful!
Hey thanks for making this video! I about a month I'm going to a swing dance with some friend and absolutely none of us know what we're doing so I think this video out of all the others might be the game changer!
Rose is great; very precise. It’s hard to make dance look that easy.
Thank you!! 🙏
I am very impressed by your instruction. I can dance it but I don't think I could ever break it down and teach it. East Coast Swing is one of my favourites.
Thank you for watching and the positivity!
We just started with basic step last week and your instructions on the turns and cadence is great!
Awesome. Very clear instructions. Both of you are so elegant
Glad you enjoyed it!
You guys are AMAZING teachers! Your WCS videos have made THE ABSOLUTE DIFFERENCE in my learning! You make is SIMPLE! And of course this video is great as well!
We LOVE to hear that! “You make it simple” is the best compliment you could give us. Thank you so much for being here ❤️❤️❤️
Leading like a boss because of this! Thank you! :)
Glad to help!
Thanks for making it easier ;)
Yes! You win comment of the day. That’s all we were hoping for.
Excellent tutorial!
YOU TWO ARE FREAKING AWESOME!!! Would love to invite you two up here to Klamath Falls, Oregon to offer a class!!!
Thanks so much! We love to travel and teach
So awesome!
We love to hear that!
Amazing!
We love to hear that. So glad you enjoyed it😃
Thank you Anthony for your excellent explanations and conceptualizations! I've never heard the 'section 1, section 2, section 3' before but it makes so much sense and as a leader, really helps me feel variations much better. You and Rose are a great team. Cheers from Norcal!
Thank you so much for watching and your encouragement! We’re so glad this has been helpful for you :-) Let us know if there’s anything we can do to help.
That makes sense! Thanks!
your so underated!!!
We appreciate you saying that. Thanks for being here!
Makes perfect sense. Thanks
That makes us so happy to hear!
Keep adding many interesting advanced “Steps”
Will do!
Love this. You two are great!
Thanks so much!
Nice. I can use the L and R turns now to know the counts. Thank you. 🙂
Very Excellent explanation of the basic step. ... and it counts up to 6. ...Exactly as I teach it.
And the London Jive is the same, but just has a different style ...
Totally. ECS and Jive are essentially the same structurally. I believe than Jive is actually a derivative of ECS (which is a derivative of Lindy Hop).
Excellent
We’re so glad you enjoyed it!
Awesome thanks
You bet!
So glad I found you both!!! I’m a retired PE teacher. Loved teaching swing to my kiddos. Getting ready to teach adults at my local parks and Rec but it’s been a few years! Great stuff- excited to get back in the swing😆😉!
That’s awesome! Let’s get more people on the dance floor together ❤️ Thanks for joining us here!
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Thank you! this video is so clear, I don't think I will need anything else, I won't seat a ecs dance again! :D
Love to hear that! Glad you enjoyed it
I've never danced a step (with any idea of what I was doing) ... This is a great first session (well, a great first lesson that I'm sure I'll be doing over and over for starters) ... Thanks.
We’re so glad you liked it! Thank you for watching and commenting :-)
Thank you for great instruction on the turns!! I am a beginner this really helped
WOW! I need to get to your school with my wife. We just move here to Katy We struggled with swing lessons a couple of years ago and I'm now doing better with some two-step. I still want to add swing and this is so much simpler. I will look into the school. Thank you for your lessons.
Thank you for watching! We’re so glad you enjoyed it. Welcome to the area. We have 2 studios that are probably about the same distance from you and we’d love to help.
How do you do the window in dancing from Steven
Your so good. You make it look so smooth & easy...but it's hard just learning
Thank you !
You’re very welcome!
It makes total sense. Your videos are so easy to follow and understand. Love it!
That makes us so happy to hear!
This is great! We’ve been doing the basic for so long and now should be able to add some cool turns and holds. Thanks for making it easier. And thanks for the wonderful instructions. You’re so easy to follow!
So helpful!!! Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
OMG, life changing! Thank you so much!
You’re very welcome! ❤️❤️❤️
Will you incorporate a West Coast move from James Bartlett and Lauren Jones into an East Coast routine? The Midland Swing open 2022 at about 1:40 showing the double turn then end with a rock step instead of the underarm rotation they perform. Thanks
That is make a lot of sense.
Love to hear that! We hope it was helpful
A very helpful video I could just hop off sofa and practice even without a partner. You two are great!! Thanks. Michael
Happy to help! Let us know if we can ever help :-)
I live alone and practice regularly without a partner.
It makes sense!! 😃
Glad to hear that!
This make sense and simplifies thank you
We love to hear that! Thank you for watching :-)
This is so awesome! You just made this so much easier. We went to our first instructional swing dance last night. (super fun) but this made it easier! Thanks!
Great lesson! So easy to follow! Thank you! You two are so cute!
That is so sweet! Thank you for joining us here. We're so glad you enjoyed it :-)
I just started to learn all this dancing thing, I can see I have so much to learn. Going to start practicing your moves. You got me dude, subscribed. Thanks for share. Great content.
We’re honored to have you have as you get started! Please let us know if we can ever help :-)
I figured out the song this reminds me of. Now my Husband and I can learn to dance to this. It's "Same Old Song and Dance" by Aerosmith.
I can totally hear the similarity!
When I first start the Ballroom journey. My first dance was the West Coast Swing. lol
Yikes. That’s a tough one to start out with!
@@countrydancex Then I started Salsa. I forgot all the movements of the West Coast Swing. lol
I have a question for you guys. Do you guys dance the Barn Dances aka Square Dances?
Thank you so much for this! :-) Y’all are very helpful!
So I feel really curious about what you talked about at 10:53 because I think I learned that somewhere!!
“Triple step rock step triple step rock step”(you said Lindy Rhythm?)
I’m wondering if you can go into detail about it?! Or if you already have any videos about that?
I was trying to find info on it anywhere on the Internet and I cannot find those specific steps in any videos!
Thank you!!:)
Triple step rock step is basically tchachacha 😅 (kinda, that's just what I can relate it to)
Awesome lesson. Thank you.
You’re very welcome. Thank you for watching!
Very interesting. I’ve never thought of it that way. Makes sense. Thx.
You’re very welcome!
Fantastic talent ... and great communications and teaching skills - the best!!
Wow. Thank you so much for the compliment and thank you for joining us!
At 5:30 when rocking, back can you instead walk toward her into her rock back so you're virtually embracing her in her rock back then you rock back, triple step then recover?
You totally could.
Can you please do more east coast swing video
For sure
Love it
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Thank you for making this video!
You’re very welcome. Thank you for watching!
Beautiful ❤️❤️
Thank you! We're so glad you enjoyed it :-)
Yes, it’s helpful, thanks ☺️✊
That makes us so happy to hear! Thank you for joining us here :-)
Thanks! Good lesson
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I like the assistant! Tai bong le!
I believe you meant "wife" and "partner" and "mother"
@@countrydancex Yes, her, too! Excellent. Thanks for posting such a good video. Best wishes for 2020!
This is GREAT! :D
Thank you! :D
Thank you so much for the encouragement and for watching!
It seems like the dance studio I take lessons from teaches everything different. They teach the rock step as being quick and the side step slow - being slow slow quick quick. I like the counting on this video with the rock step being slow because it’s easier coming coming out of spins with a slow rock step.
It almost sounds like you’re talking about what is called “Single Time”. Instead of a triple step, you would take a single slow count to the side. That’s a perfectly valid style as well.
There are actually 3 styles of East Coast Swing. Single, double, and triple rhythms. The good news is that the structure and patterns are mostly the same.
Thanks for the video. The steps shown in this video look like 'JIVE' steps. What is main difference between 'East coast swing' and 'West coast swing' ? Any difference of steps ? Otherwise move (pass, turn) style is different ?
That's actually a great observation. The basic steps of ECS and Jive are pretty much the same ... the styling is a little different. Jive is actually a European copycat version of ECS.
ECS and WCS both are derived from Lindy Hop. They are, however, quite different. Both ECS and Jive are danced "circular", while WCS is danced in a linear slot. We do have several WCS basic steps videos here on our channel as well.
@@countrydancex Thank you for your answer. Now I understand clearly.
I've been considering making my own set of videos for a long time, but have been too lazy to do so, I like your production here tho. You're clear movement and way of explaining things makes it real easy to follow along. I like how you explain the turns in blocks of timing. As a teacher, I think setting "rules" like "left turns always happen on 1st triple" and "right turns on the 2nd is a good" are a good rule of thumb to get people started. Once people are at a comfy point with their rules I think it's good to break them to show deeper truths like "you can turn in either direction on either foot." It just means the follow's foot will travel "in front" (aka the easy way) around their standing foot, or "backwards" (aka the hard way) behind their standing foot. I have a whole break down of how this looks in Lindy on my website it interests you to see it message me and I'll send you a link. Congrats on the great video!
We’ve enjoyed making these videos so far. You should definitely give it a try! It’s a lot of work, but fun to do.
What we’re teaching here is a general overview of lead and follow social dance. “Could” we turn at another time or on the other foot. Yes, we “could”. But “could” is different than “should”. We “could” drop down in the middle of the song and do the worm. Hahaha
Of course, performance/competition choreography could contain any number of elements that break away from the agreed upon structure that communication (lead/follow) are based upon. But that’s choreography and not dependent on following on the fly. Basically, in choreography you could do anything as long as you can maintain the character of the dance. In social dance, that’s not always the case (unless the 2 partners have practiced certain movements together... but even then they’re really just breaking away from lead/follow and have begun dancing by “pattern recognition”).
Our ultimate goal here is to get as many people to be able to dance comfortably and confidently and grow the dance community. We don’t profit from these videos. In fact they cost us thousands of dollars every month to produce them.
We’d love to see your videos if you decide to give it a try! Send us some over :-)
Awesome!!!
Thank you for the positivity!
Great video. Even I can understand the instruction. I am starting classes next week, and I want to get a head start...this will help :) Thank you!!
Awesome! You’ll have a great time. Let us know if you need help along the way!
@@countrydancex I'll be practicing till Monday night ;) thank you for your help! ;)
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Great Video. We learned a lot. As an aside can you tell us a definite difference or at least a clear explanation of the difference between "East Coast Swing," "Jive" and "Jitterbug?" Thanks. Look forward to making one of your excellent classes.
Thanks for watching and a great question. Someone else asked the same thing, so we’ll just give you the same answer :-)
The Jive is basically a branch away from East Coast Swing (which branched away from Lindy). The steps, rhythm, and structure of ECS and Jive are essentially the same. The difference lies primarily in style. ECS tends to be more grounded while Jive is higher in the knees and lilt (bounce). Jive music also tends to be much faster.
“Jitterbug” is a loose term. It’s basically single time ECS... but styling varies wildly depending on the music and geographic region.
@@countrydancex Can you also dance the figures you showed in the video in Jive?
My wife and I are both VERY clumsy and lack rhythm. Do you think it would be easier for us to learn East or West Coast swing?
Hi! East coast is definitely easier to learn!
Perfect sense! Mind blowing wonder. Thank you!
We love to hear that you enjoyed it. We hope it helps!
Will you be doing instructionals on the Progressive Double Two Step?
Hi there. We may eventually. However, you'll want to look for "Triple Two Step" rather than "Progressive Double Two Step". Different names, same dance. If/when we do produce a video for it, it will be called Triple Two Step since that is the more common and "official" name :-)
How do these 6 beats of step stay in time with 4/4 music?
Down beat. Up beat. Down beat. Up beat.
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Hi! I'm kind of new to dancing and this video helped to give me an idea of east coast swing, but I'm still confused over the timing, since you said there are 3 sections of 2 beats of music, I'm just confused for how that applies to songs with 4 beats of music since everytime I count, as the steps seem to be all over the place in terms of counting (I'm trying to choreograph my own east coast swing dance and confusion is giving me a lot of headaches). I'm hoping you could give some insight or explain
We’ve been asked that question before. The answer is actually pretty simple. East coast swing IS a 6 count pattern danced to a 4 count song... but so is Two Step and WCS. You just have to start thinking of it in 2 beat increments. Like 1 2, 1 2. There’s a down beat and an up beat. You can start dancing on any odd numbered count.
@@countrydancex ah alright, thank you!
Does this apply when doing Swing Switch?
Is “Swing Switch” a name of a move?
@@countrydancex It's the name of the dance AND it is a partner switch because it's a mixer. Try this one which is porely done but you'll get the idea. ua-cam.com/users/results?search_query=couples+dance+Swing+Switch+country+line
What is the difference between East Coast Swing and Jive? Can someone enlighten me?
That's a great question! The Jive is basically a branch away from East Coast Swing (which branched away from Lindy). The steps, rhythm, and structure of ECS and Jive are essentially the same. The difference lies primarily in style. ECS tends to be more grounded while Jive is higher in the knees and lilt (bounce). Jive music also tends to be much faster.
@@countrydancex thank you so much for your prompt reply - that makes sense, love your videos by the way, your approach is very intuitive. I myself am Square- and Round-Dancer so I don't have a lot of experience in following a leader while dancing - that is something I will have to get used to 😊
How long does it take to learn this, wife and I just started and it doesn't look anything like that lol. At what point does one see a professional?
What is the name of the song on the video? I recognize it, but, can't put a name to it. Is it Molly Hatchet?
Hi there. We use stock music due to copyright laws... so the stuff we use has likely never had airplay. Sometimes some of it sounds like other music, though :-)
@@countrydancex Yes it does. It's driving me crazy trying to figure it out. LOL.
I'm going to get my Husband to learn this with me. :-)
@Country Dance X If there's any way you could help me find that music, it would be much appreciated. It's perfect for this dance. Thanks!
There are lots of Motown and contemporary blues songs you can do this dance to. “If There Is A Heaven” by Joe Louis Walker, “It’s All Right” by The Impressions, “Don’t Mess With Bill” by The Marvelletes, “ I Wonder Why” by Debbie Davies, etc.
so i could be wrong but i would say an exception to this would be that you dont need to triple step for east coast. so this may work for that particular flavor of east coast but some is not triple step
Thanks for watching and for the feedback! There are actually 3 versions of ECS. This is what is typically referred to as “triple swing”. Another popular version is “single swing” which is typically done when the music is significantly faster. It simply replaces the 2 beats of the triple step with a single step held for 2 counts. The other, less common version, is “double swing” which is done by replacing the triples with tap steps (still 2 counts).
All three versions have exactly the same structure. 3 sections of 2 beats of music. Left turns and right turns still happen on the same section regardless of whether you’re spending those 2 beats doing a triple step, single step, or tap step.
@@countrydancex cool! i didnt know about double swing and yeah i wasnt meaning that the rest of it wasnt right, just that u dont have to triple step for it to be ecs but cool! thanks for ur reply! again it was a neat video, the way you broke it all down!
Wait, I think I learned this as jive? Is that the same?
You are (sort of) correct. Jive and ECS have the same basic step and count. The style is a little different, but they are almost the same dance.
@@countrydancex thanks for the fast answer! I learned in a European dance school and as part of the "ballroom" package, so I was wondering about the naming ^^ just checked out your west coast swing video, that seems to be a similar concept as well. I think I'll be binging your videos now 😄
Haha. They are yours to binge
I’m curious as to why, when I look up East Coast swing, I can never find people teaching the basic as: rock step, right touch, left touch (6 counts). I’ve been to swing out events on the East Coast, and everybody dances with the technique I just described. Never seen this one in practice before
There are 3 styles of ECS. You're referring to what is called double time ECS. That is actually pretty uncommon. We sometimes dance that style when we're really tired and being lazy haha. The 2 most common types are this one (triple time) which is the main style danced in country and in ballroom (American Rhythm), and single time (danced to big band style swing music mostly in the retro swing communities along with Lindy Hop/Balboa etc)
When you say turn to the left or right please mention is the turn an inside turn or outside turn. When you say turn to the Left/right, is the turn the direction to the man's left or the woman's left.
Hi there. We always appreciate input. In this case, however, left/right turn would obviously refer to the person who is turning. On that note, left or right is the same direction regardless of man/woman.
Turn turn left, your nose moves toward your left shoulder. To turn right, your nose moves toward your right shoulder.
Left is always counter-clockwise. Right is always clockwise. A clock moves the same direction for both partners.
When I was learning to dance in the early 60’s down in FL. We were doing the Lindy Hop. Then my dad had to transfer to Holyoke, MA. When I got there I stood out with my sneakers and Bobby socks. Luckily I didn’t have poodle. The girls were wearing stockings or knee high socks. My drawl was evident along with yes sir, and yes mam. Natural alien to these kids and plenty of mean spirited making fun of me ? But I didn’t expect they didn’t do the lindy dance steps. Of course more reason to call me hillbilly. Anyone not like them and you must come from some alien space.
Obviously, the odd ball I never figured out what dance they did.
Eventually the various TV shows came I stood there trying to learn their moves. But I never heard or saw the Lindy. I was only 12 when we moved. Much later we’ll into my 40’s I watched swing dancers who often showed their moves whether they were single or couple. Moving so fast and stylizing I did recognized it. The Lindy I final noticed it but no one mentioned Lindy. They kept saying swing. Well, I know these great COVID videos for learning dances I finally hearing the Lindy. Thanks
Thanks for watching and for sharing!
Arthur Murray Dance Studios had a half hour TV show with Kathryn Murray, (Arthur's wife) as the hostess back in the early 1960's when I taught for Arthur Murrays in San Diego. I hate to break it to ya... but when you syncopate that (1-2-3 or 1 & 2) basic step and carry it all the way thru the dance you have just turned the basic jitterbug which is East Coast Swing into the West Coast style Swing.! YEP! Go ahead and google Arthur Murray Studios. I am 82 now and still dance... I would like to give you a little styling tip.... please stop "prancing" or bouncing...(maybe they do that for country music) keep your posture smooth like the models are taught to walk with a book on their head. Find a studio in your city and learn some styling. Always love to see folks dancing. The best 2 exercises are still dancing and swimming because you use ALL your muscles. Have fun. Oh and get down off your toes for the swing, dance on the balls of your feet.
I taught Foxtrot, Waltz, Swing, Rumba, Mambo, Cha Cha Cha, Tango, Meringue and sometimes in Saturday group class I would teach some Charleston.
Thank you for watching and contributing. Of course, we’ll have to agree to disagree with pretty much everything you said.
I (Anthony) also worked for Arthur Murray. I am also a Gold certified instructor.
Thanks again for watching.
@@countrydancex Hard to believe... but your remarks are a sign of the times, of course. I do admire your gold status, though.
how do I know I should turn right of turn left😂😂
Wait... is that a real question?
Why do some people teach the rock step first?
I like this question. Most people dance ecs starting with the triple step, but many instructors teach it starting with the rock. The reason why is pretty simple. when you start with a rock step, you can go straight into any variation right from the start. If you start with the triple, you would have to do a basic step first before many variations. For example, you couldn’t prep a right turn and start with a triple step since they happen at the same time, but you could start with a right turn by beginning with the rock.
But honestly, it is a six count dance danced in two count increments to a four count song and you can start on any section you want. It doesn’t match the phrasing of the music anyway :-)
Yes, my dance instructor taught rock step first
Anthony! Excellent instruction but suggestion: lose the ball caps!! More women will tune in but that’s a big no-no!
Hi there. What makes a ball cap a "big no-no"?
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Is this double speed? Nooo... just very fast explanations. 😂
Turns out to be boogie-woogie, doesn't it?
Yes! Except no
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You might wanna shut off the tv because its a Distraction
Thanks. You'll notice that we changed that a long time ago :-)