Great flying! You couldn't have flown in a more perfect picturesque day. ORD is on my list. So far I've got at least a half dozen Bravos logged. JFK is in my video-collection. #Aviation
Notice how quiet it was on ground control? That's because you were on the North part of the airport isolated from most of the action. The ground control frequency you were on is only for that far north runway. Normal arrivals contact 121.9 and it's really busy. I just didn't want anyone to get the wrong idea and think O'hare is a relaxed place without much going on.
That's good to know, quinnjim. I would imagine it can also get quite a bit busier if the weather is bad, or if I get there during the busy time of day. Our flight was on a beautiful Sunday morning with perfect weather, which I'm sure helped.
The north part is also where the main FBO is at O Hare, most major airports have small private planes land on the runways that are closer to the FBO apron [ramp] if possible to shorten taxi time and to keep them separated from the commercial aircraft at busy hours
Thank you Mr Pauly for the fun videos. I’ve flown my Bonanza for hundreds of hours, before I sold it for lack of use. These videos help me scratch that life long itch to own and fly a Bonanza again . Now flying a Mooney.... not near the same.
You are welcome, Dennis. I fly other airplanes occasionally... an Arrow, and the other day a 172. Every time I do that, I realize just how lucky I am to fly a Bonanza most of the time. - Martin
Martin, did you ever live in the western suburbs of Chicago? You remind me of someone I met at a photography club meeting once long ago is why I ask. He was a young pilot and spoke with an accent. You have excellent photographic skills, so did he. Could it be?
James, no, I never lived there, though I have often visited Chicago - it's a family favorite for weekend trips. I've lived in Cedar Rapids, IA, for over 20 years now. Best regards, Martin
Very neat! It was nice seeing you fly into an area I fly around often. I flight instruct out of 05C and altho I fly near OHare often I've never flown in there myself. I'll have to do it sometime!!! Good job.
Thanks for the feedback, Siegwart Aviator! I haven't been to 05C yet. I've been to 06C a fair amount - absolutely love the Pilot Pete's restaurant there. And where else can you see a 172 in the pattern just below a 777 on final to O'Hare?
We have a little Mexican restaurant out at 05C but it's closed on Mondays just FYI. I'll have to check out Pilot Pete's sometime. If you are in the area stop by anytime eh.
Thanks. This is the video that started it all for me here on UA-cam, five years ago or so. I had no idea at the time how big this would become one day! Regards, Martin
The confusion on the clearance issued by CID was because this was a new STAR into ORD. At that time, that STAR did NOT have a BENNR transition listed on the plate, only MYRRS and BHAWK. Chicago center wants ORD routes out of CID to go to Benner to join the BULLZ arrival. Because there was no BENNR transistion at that time, most of the airlines out of CID were having a hard time figuring out how to put BENNR into their flight computer and complained. Some desk jockey at Chicago center decided that the clearances should be read as "Direct BENNR, BULLZ5 arrival, MYRRS transistion, BULLZ5 arrival", which is absolutely ridiculous in confusion. Myself (and most of the old timers) read it simply as "Direct BENNR, to join the BULLZ5 arrival MYRRS transistion". They resolved the airline computer confusion by adding the BENNR transisition in the next approach plates cyle.
Thank you for that explanation! Now it makes a lot more sense. I had (mistakenly) assumed that one could have made up a BENNR transition of the old BULLZ5 arrival, simply because BENNR was a charted point on that arrival. I guess that was wrong, i.e. BENNR was not an allowed entry point for the arrival. I see how the new BULLZ6 arrival with the explicit BENNR transition will make things easier.
That's not too far from home. I have been there a couple of times in different airplanes (Cessna 172 back when TWA was still around, and later in a Piper Arrow). I'm sure I'll go back in the Bonanza some day.
Very cool, thanks for your post and your hard work with the editing. I went to flight school at UD out of KDBQ and used to fly into KICD often and now i work Airport Operations At KORD so cool to see a different perspective at KORD. Don't see to many of you "little guys" here :) I miss the sounds of props.
Also that area off of 27R that intersects with 14L is not a turn-off. It is a hot spot because of the proximity to each runway and that displaced threshold area of RWY 14L is in the Runway Safety Area (RSA) of RWY 27R. Kind of a screwy area. It is paved though but painted Green, "O'Hare Grass" as it is referred to :)
And that Taxi route you took you would no longer be able to take because "WT" (which is now TWY M) is closed permanently between TWY "F1" (which is now TWY M2) and RWY 22R. In order to get rid of that hot spot for when they arrive RWY 9L. Things change every month here at ORD lol
***** Well, I'll just have to go there again and see what all has changed. What would the typical taxi route be then from 9R to the GA ramp? C to U to M to V?
Martin, great job with this. I've flown a Bonanza and now a Baron around the Chicago area for 15 years and haven't yet dropped in at ORD. I think you've inspired me! Greg
Roger, that's been the subject of some discussion since I posted this video, and I have actually changed my procedure since then. Still, there are two schools of thought here: (1) On short final, as much as possible the aircraft should be set up for a possible go-around (and that would include cowl flaps open), and (2) the cowl flaps should be closed until touch down to keep the engine warm during the low-power descent. The POH for my Bonanza simply says "Cowl Flaps - As Required" in the Before-Landing checklist, supporting the idea that there are situations in which either open or closed is recommended.
I really want to thank you for sharing this video and express my appreciation. I am not a real pilot but have been flying Microsoft Flignt Simulator for over 20 years. When you loaded the earlier versions, you were placed on rwy 36 at Meigs Field and had opportunity to fly in the area to surrounding airports as far as Champaign/Urbana. For people like me, this area is holy ground or sbould I say airspace. I dream of flying for real and a flight like that would be totally unreal. I really appreciate Microsoft Flight Simulator for all it has taught me, along with some years of Flying Magazine subscriptions. I felt right at hime with you in every phase of your flight. Again thank you for the opportunity to share in the experience.
+uriahms I'm happy to hear that you can relate to a few things in the video. I, too, grew up on Microsoft Flight Simulator, and I remember its starting airport (Meigs) very well. It was only in the late 1990s that I actually landed in Meigs in the real world for the first time. I really wish Meigs Field was still open... You seem to "have the bug" for flying, uriahms - why not make it real? Just call local flight schools and see if they have an offer for an introductory flight - then go from there.
+Martin Pauly Thanks for the encouragement. The irony is I live 1/2 mile from an airport with a flying club. I've already got the instructors business card. I owe it to myself. Just one question, what was the date of the flight please?
Good radio communication skills, planning and execution. I did the same trip in a bonanza in the 90's just to put KORD in the log book too! Good editing! Nice job!
i must say this is one of the most complete videos i have seen. I am working on my instrument rating and getting ready to fly to midway because i never been to chicago. good work
I feel extra smart because as I watched this great video, I was entering the flight plan into my FSX flight simulator and I managed to find an old BULLZ5 STAR chart and figured out immediately that they must mean to ENTER the BULLZ5 approach at BENNR and then fly the MYRRS transition. I can see the confusion though. Just one thing... I could not make it out clearly what waypoint you were cleared to west of DBQ. It sounded like "Leana" and searching for waypoints in the area only resulted in the LEAMA waypoint which is much closer in to ORD and would have saved you more than the 7 miles you reported. Were you indeed cleared to LEAMA? Great video, enjoyed it a lot.
I believe the waypoint they were cleared to was KRENA. (mentioned at 14:20 & 19:10) I'm also a "PC Pilot" using FSX. Unfortunately, many of the waypoints are missing in FSX. I used waypoint CF13 in place of BENNR. Also, runway 27R in FSX is now 27L. Great job Martin! You obviously put a lot of work into your videos. I enjoy re-enacting them & others on the PC.
Nice! I fly out of KIKV. I live in Altoona, if you happen to know where that is in Des Moines. Video was awesome by the way. I wish I coulda been on this flight with you! I might be flying over to KIOW in a month or so to grab lunch with some friends and my girlfriend.
Martin, as a fellow A36 owner, I always appreciate your top-notch videos. In this particular video, I noticed that you have some ignition noise on your radios when the signal you are receiving is more distant. We have a similar issue in our airplane. I'm curious if you have investigated any causes and solutions.
Paul, No silver bullet here, except that ignition is indeed what I suspect may be causing it. My ignition harness is a bit dated; replacing it may solve the problem. But I can't tell for sure at this time.
Great video. It appears your taxing at O'Hare should be logged as a separate cross country.
Great flying! You couldn't have flown in a more perfect picturesque day.
ORD is on my list. So far I've got at least a half dozen Bravos logged. JFK is in my video-collection.
#Aviation
Great flight. Thanks for sharing. Do you attend Oshkosh each year?
Notice how quiet it was on ground control? That's because you were on the North part of the airport isolated from most of the action. The ground control frequency you were on is only for that far north runway. Normal arrivals contact 121.9 and it's really busy. I just didn't want anyone to get the wrong idea and think O'hare is a relaxed place without much going on.
That's good to know, quinnjim. I would imagine it can also get quite a bit busier if the weather is bad, or if I get there during the busy time of day. Our flight was on a beautiful Sunday morning with perfect weather, which I'm sure helped.
The north part is also where the main FBO is at O Hare, most major airports have small private planes land on the runways that are closer to the FBO apron [ramp] if possible to shorten taxi time and to keep them separated from the commercial aircraft at busy hours
Great. love the inserts, including pointing to the jetliner while enroute!
Thank you Mr Pauly for the fun videos. I’ve flown my Bonanza for hundreds of hours, before I sold it for lack of use. These videos help me scratch that life long itch to own and fly a Bonanza again
. Now flying a Mooney.... not near the same.
You are welcome, Dennis. I fly other airplanes occasionally... an Arrow, and the other day a 172. Every time I do that, I realize just how lucky I am to fly a Bonanza most of the time.
- Martin
Martin, did you ever live in the western suburbs of Chicago? You remind me of someone I met at a photography club meeting once long ago is why I ask. He was a young pilot and spoke with an accent. You have excellent photographic skills, so did he. Could it be?
James, no, I never lived there, though I have often visited Chicago - it's a family favorite for weekend trips. I've lived in Cedar Rapids, IA, for over 20 years now.
Best regards, Martin
I really enjoyed this and learned a lot! Thanks for putting these together.
Very neat! It was nice seeing you fly into an area I fly around often. I flight instruct out of 05C and altho I fly near OHare often I've never flown in there myself. I'll have to do it sometime!!! Good job.
Thanks for the feedback, Siegwart Aviator! I haven't been to 05C yet. I've been to 06C a fair amount - absolutely love the Pilot Pete's restaurant there. And where else can you see a 172 in the pattern just below a 777 on final to O'Hare?
We have a little Mexican restaurant out at 05C but it's closed on Mondays just FYI. I'll have to check out Pilot Pete's sometime. If you are in the area stop by anytime eh.
Siegwart Aviator Will do - thanks! Or let's find a time to meet at Pilot Pete's sometime.
Sounds gd :)
I first learned to fly at 06C many years ago. You certainly learned to watch your altitudes there as an initial student with 747's on final overhead!
Great video. I enjoy watching it again. Thank you
Thanks. This is the video that started it all for me here on UA-cam, five years ago or so. I had no idea at the time how big this would become one day!
Regards, Martin
Hey Capi !
Awesome To Approach at O’Hare Nightmare !
But As You Should Know You Are Supposed To Taxi OVER The YELLOW LINE ! ! !
Many Thanks !
love your videos I hope you continue to make them
Thanks, Don - there'll be a few more coming this year. :-)
The confusion on the clearance issued by CID was because this was a new STAR into ORD. At that time, that STAR did NOT have a BENNR transition listed on the plate, only MYRRS and BHAWK. Chicago center wants ORD routes out of CID to go to Benner to join the BULLZ arrival. Because there was no BENNR transistion at that time, most of the airlines out of CID were having a hard time figuring out how to put BENNR into their flight computer and complained. Some desk jockey at Chicago center decided that the clearances should be read as "Direct BENNR, BULLZ5 arrival, MYRRS transistion, BULLZ5 arrival", which is absolutely ridiculous in confusion. Myself (and most of the old timers) read it simply as "Direct BENNR, to join the BULLZ5 arrival MYRRS transistion". They resolved the airline computer confusion by adding the BENNR transisition in the next approach plates cyle.
Thank you for that explanation! Now it makes a lot more sense.
I had (mistakenly) assumed that one could have made up a BENNR transition of the old BULLZ5 arrival, simply because BENNR was a charted point on that arrival. I guess that was wrong, i.e. BENNR was not an allowed entry point for the arrival.
I see how the new BULLZ6 arrival with the explicit BENNR transition will make things easier.
Nice! On to the second video!
This was the first public video, Alan - the one which stated my channel.
- Martin
Please record a flight to KSTL if you get time 😊
That's not too far from home. I have been there a couple of times in different airplanes (Cessna 172 back when TWA was still around, and later in a Piper Arrow). I'm sure I'll go back in the Bonanza some day.
This video just helped overcome the fear of taxiing at majors. Thank you sir.
My pleasure - glad I could help!
Great Video!
After watching this, I feel like doing my big cross country flight for my CPL from Toronto to Chicago O’Hare.
Thanks for sharing Martin.
Why not? It'll be an experience!
- Martin
Very cool, thanks for your post and your hard work with the editing. I went to flight school at UD out of KDBQ and used to fly into KICD often and now i work Airport Operations At KORD so cool to see a different perspective at KORD. Don't see to many of you "little guys" here :) I miss the sounds of props.
Also that area off of 27R that intersects with 14L is not a turn-off. It is a hot spot because of the proximity to each runway and that displaced threshold area of RWY 14L is in the Runway Safety Area (RSA) of RWY 27R. Kind of a screwy area. It is paved though but painted Green, "O'Hare Grass" as it is referred to :)
And that Taxi route you took you would no longer be able to take because "WT" (which is now TWY M) is closed permanently between TWY "F1" (which is now TWY M2) and RWY 22R. In order to get rid of that hot spot for when they arrive RWY 9L. Things change every month here at ORD lol
*****
Well, I'll just have to go there again and see what all has changed. What would the typical taxi route be then from 9R to the GA ramp? C to U to M to V?
Martin, great job with this. I've flown a Bonanza and now a Baron around the Chicago area for 15 years and haven't yet dropped in at ORD. I think you've inspired me! Greg
Great, informative video; however, showing entries into the Garmin 530, and the approach procedures would have been very helpful.
Hey Martin, how many hours taxi-time? (smile)
More than enough! :)
But then that's part of the fun of large airports, isn't it?
IRT your checklist, "why would you open your cowl flaps when you were on a 2 mile final to ORD?
Roger, that's been the subject of some discussion since I posted this video, and I have actually changed my procedure since then. Still, there are two schools of thought here: (1) On short final, as much as possible the aircraft should be set up for a possible go-around (and that would include cowl flaps open), and (2) the cowl flaps should be closed until touch down to keep the engine warm during the low-power descent. The POH for my Bonanza simply says "Cowl Flaps - As Required" in the Before-Landing checklist, supporting the idea that there are situations in which either open or closed is recommended.
I really want to thank you for sharing this video and express my appreciation. I am not a real pilot but have been flying Microsoft Flignt Simulator for over 20 years. When you loaded the earlier versions, you were placed on rwy 36 at Meigs Field and had opportunity to fly in the area to surrounding airports as far as Champaign/Urbana. For people like me, this area is holy ground or sbould I say airspace. I dream of flying for real and a flight like that would be totally unreal. I really appreciate Microsoft Flight Simulator for all it has taught me, along with some years of Flying Magazine subscriptions. I felt right at hime with you in every phase of your flight. Again thank you for the opportunity to share in the experience.
+uriahms I'm happy to hear that you can relate to a few things in the video. I, too, grew up on Microsoft Flight Simulator, and I remember its starting airport (Meigs) very well. It was only in the late 1990s that I actually landed in Meigs in the real world for the first time. I really wish Meigs Field was still open...
You seem to "have the bug" for flying, uriahms - why not make it real? Just call local flight schools and see if they have an offer for an introductory flight - then go from there.
+Martin Pauly Thanks for the encouragement. The irony is I live 1/2 mile from an airport with a flying club. I've already got the instructors business card. I owe it to myself. Just one question, what was the date of the flight please?
+uriahms Sorry, I got it from your narration at the beginning. Good job.
Good radio communication skills, planning and execution. I did the same trip in a bonanza in the 90's just to put KORD in the log book too! Good editing! Nice job!
i must say this is one of the most complete videos i have seen. I am working on my instrument rating and getting ready to fly to midway because i never been to chicago. good work
Nice video and editing! Greetings from South America
I feel extra smart because as I watched this great video, I was entering the flight plan into my FSX flight simulator and I managed to find an old BULLZ5 STAR chart and figured out immediately that they must mean to ENTER the BULLZ5 approach at BENNR and then fly the MYRRS transition. I can see the confusion though.
Just one thing... I could not make it out clearly what waypoint you were cleared to west of DBQ. It sounded like "Leana" and searching for waypoints in the area only resulted in the LEAMA waypoint which is much closer in to ORD and would have saved you more than the 7 miles you reported. Were you indeed cleared to LEAMA?
Great video, enjoyed it a lot.
I believe the waypoint they were cleared to was KRENA. (mentioned at 14:20 & 19:10) I'm also a "PC Pilot" using FSX. Unfortunately, many of the waypoints are missing in FSX. I used waypoint CF13 in place of BENNR.
Also, runway 27R in FSX is now 27L.
Great job Martin! You obviously put a lot of work into your videos. I enjoy re-enacting them & others on the PC.
What's your "Home airport"? I see you started in KICD, I'm from Des Moines, about 15 minutes from KDSM.
*KCID*
My home airport is KCID, from where we started this flight to O'Hare. I've been based here for over 15 years.
Nice! I fly out of KIKV. I live in Altoona, if you happen to know where that is in Des Moines. Video was awesome by the way. I wish I coulda been on this flight with you! I might be flying over to KIOW in a month or so to grab lunch with some friends and my girlfriend.
Love the Class B action. Cool!
i'd be scared haha! cool video
Martin, as a fellow A36 owner, I always appreciate your top-notch videos. In this particular video, I noticed that you have some ignition noise on your radios when the signal you are receiving is more distant. We have a similar issue in our airplane. I'm curious if you have investigated any causes and solutions.
Paul,
No silver bullet here, except that ignition is indeed what I suspect may be causing it. My ignition harness is a bit dated; replacing it may solve the problem. But I can't tell for sure at this time.
could be an alternator going out
Thanks for the great flight...
You are welcome, Birol. Glad you enjoyed it.
- Martin