Clearly he didnt read the product manual. Every bow I have owned and every bow I have worked on for friends/club members always state "Do not dry fire the bow" or "Never draw the bow without an arrow nocked" or similar - Idiots will be idiots
Yes Sir, totally agree!!! They need to take up checkers or something where they won’t others or themselves!!! I’ve seen that at the local range, which was also a huge f*ck-up on their end, by not exercising proper safety practices!!!!
I find this hilarious, you have more people in Australia dry firing their bows in one week than my shop gets in 5 years,.. Crazy to hear you always talking about this lol...I can't tell you the last time I had someone with a dry fire it's been years
He’s just a pain in the ass customer Stephen that I wouldn’t be too stressed losing. U putting this out on UA-cam at least backs u against all the bulls&$t bad claims he’s no doubt going to go around saying. Well said indeed
I had a shop installed D-Loop fail at full draw without an arrow nocked. The shop replaced the crushed cams, string and limbs free of charge but the holes in my drywall from the speed nocks blowing off the string are on me😂
I'm relatively new to actually trying to get better at archery I have been bow hunting for a while but I'm getting really invested and interested in it now just bought a new mathews phase 4 33 I just found you yesterday I love your information yes I'm in the USA but you put our great information thanks
I've dry fied a bow by using a cheap release that failed. My fault should've had an arrow on it. Had to replace limbs, cams and string. Never said no one told me not to do it.
I thought I would never dryfire a bow, but I guess almost all archers that practice archery for many years, will someday do it - in most cases by accident. And I did with my leverbow - and my brother did with my compound bow. My leverbow didn't hold up - but that was because I used a string with relative few strands, so string broke and damaged the hinges. My compound was fine with it, but in both bows cases I shoot at not more than 42-44# peak draw weight.
I dry fired my pse decree #60 pound bow when I had just installed a new single pin sight , 3 shots at 10 yards then 3 at 20, all set good to go drew the bow release and BANG I said to my self bloody idiot.. so I took the bow to archery supplies and asked them to fix it amazingly it was just derailed, a big thanks to all the people who work there. Fun fact after I got home I shot 1 just next to the bullseye then the second 1 robin hood the nock in no 1 it didn't split the arrow all the way but now I have a 2 in one arrow still got it at home LOL
Crazy, but I've done it. The first crossbow I got as a kid. 150lb I sat in my room dry firing it till friend came running in telling me NO. Limbs were cracked but I still used it for hundreds of shots.
People don't take responsibility for their actions in today's world. America, Australia- the same. I've had wood recurve risers break (2), and 1 crack. Each within 1000 arrows and one year. They were cheap bows but I was lucky enough to get them replaced. I also have had a compound derail, probably hand torque and cracked a limb. Cheap 500 dollar bow - you learn that limbs and cam parts just made your compound a parts bow.
I bought a triangle bow and after unboxing I pulled back without an arrow, no problems first time letting it down slowly - second time I wasn't so lucky....string came off. Some how I managed to get the string back on by loosening the limbs, turning one cam at a time, screwdriver etc in cam... Wow I realise how weak my arms are LOL
Lotta people don’t have a lot of common, also a lot of people don’t learn archery from a coach. But then he expects all things sold should have all their parts in stock too, just in case. Still, lots of those in stock after 5 or 6 years, not a big seller that one. Unlike the Victory VXT’s, a shipment comes in last week, all sold out by this week.
I just have question most learners don't no what dry fire means U as retail don't have to but need to express to begginer not to shoot bow without an arrow placed in the rest?
Poor excuse. Manufacturers put warning labels on their bows, it's written in the manual, on the website and you hear it everywhere. This is when you listen, of course! And always put an Arrow in the bow, recurve, compound doesn't matter! I had the hook of a bow scale came of, luckily arrow was nocked and left a hole in the wall. The only time i don't put an arrow on my compound bow is in the draw board. But here i have an extra safety loop around the bowstring in case the d loop snaps.
If you've still got stock of those bows after 6 or 7 years you should make a video of a dry fire in slow motion. You'd probably get your money back from UA-cam views. Then you can give the guy the nut he needs from the wreckage.
to quote from Hoyt's warranty: "This warranty covers any defects in materials or workmanship in your new Hoyt compound bow riser, limbs, limb pockets and eccentrics (Cams) This warranty does not cover: Bows that show signs of misuse, alteration, or mishandling."
@@ScottPankhurst That’s fair, but assuming you treat your bow well (as well as a hunting bow can be treated) and it blows up after 10 years of ownership, what happens then?
@@thenameiwantedwastaken Chances are... It will be out of production well before 10 years. Will you still be using an outdated 10 year old bow? Unlike firearms, bows age like milk. A lot of small print usually states that lifetime warrenty means... Lifetime of the product not your lifetime... So if they stopped making it and theres no part in the warehouse. Buy a new bow.
@@thenameiwantedwastakenyou'll probably still be out of luck, as far as I know. They will probably not have stock of the parts you'll need. And the only manufacturer I know of to machine parts to order (like cams/modules from bows that are that old) is mathews. Elite has a warranty for the lifetime of the bow. Still unsure what to make of that. My dealer said that Hoyts philosophy is that a bow should last an average of 8 years. I've gotten new limbs within that frame, some were branded with the model 5 years after release (my carbon matrix). But some (my Nitrum) didn't have the model name on the replacement limbs, even though it was a much younger bow at the time.
my god the amount of ppl who dry fire compound bows is unreal, I've started back upon FB due to my archery club, as such went further & joined other archery related forums again on FB... the amount of innocent ppl posting "how do you restring a compound" such & such manufacturer is terrible as my limbs are cracking etc after 1+ years of ownership "allegedly" but myself & many other ppl ask how did the damage occur "no replies to anyone" there just after a cheap repair & to sell the bow on. I've both a 2022 PSE Citation 40" & a old classic Browning (20+ years old) & I've had no issues with either... I've seen on ebay a browning being sold as excellent condition, yet you look at the images & clear as day, all the limbs edges visible are cracked multiple times upwards of 10" long on each limb, emailing the seller, the reply several months ago was "its how I received it & it shoots perfectly" that's an explosion at anytime bow. lots of ppl beginning in archery really don't have the attitude to try kite flying, let alone archery..... I'd ask anyone wanting a laugh join archery forums on FB, as the amount of ppl spouting off about dealers, manufacturers etc is unreal.. myself I've only had issues with one compound bow yrs ago, trying it out for a friend after it was purchased used... setting it up etc, firing it arrows went allover, string slapping my arm, for doing nothing wrong etc.. only after saying to myself WTF with this bow.. I went back to stock, removed everything looked at the bow & drew it back "all appeared fine" when checking the limb bolts, well "problem found" the previous 'experienced' owner had one limb say turned 6-7down, the other limb 3-4 at best, once this was corrected the bow was perfect, a shop did give it the lookover after I raised concerns of possible damage due to such poor set-up, other then new strings as a precaution the limbs were given the no issues found, my work all no issues etc I only wish ppl would understand if your a newbie.. learn the basics, do a beginners course, learn recurve, get experience & then maybe after a couple of yrs move to compound... just get assistance from a club or shop. stop being a know it all type of person as YOUR dangerous.. another FB post how do you lower the poundage on a compound... purchased from amazon "GRRRreat!" yet she was a 10yr experienced archer, who's never used a bow but she has a 170lb crossbow "compound style" uknow the ones with pretty much identical limb bolts to reduce poundage, when I pointed out she sounds like a newbie, she should seek real help rather then asking online ie FB, learn teh basics.. I'm then everything from a sexist, speaking down to her & so-on.. "STOP blooming pretending"
Clearly he didnt read the product manual. Every bow I have owned and every bow I have worked on for friends/club members always state "Do not dry fire the bow" or "Never draw the bow without an arrow nocked" or similar - Idiots will be idiots
100%. I'm surprised this customer didn't say; "Nobody told me I should read the manual." But possibly this customer is illiterate as well.
Anyone that says that does not deserve to be involved in archery or anywhere near a bow & arrow.
Yes Sir, totally agree!!! They need to take up checkers or something where they won’t others or themselves!!! I’ve seen that at the local range, which was also a huge f*ck-up on their end, by not exercising proper safety practices!!!!
I find this hilarious, you have more people in Australia dry firing their bows in one week than my shop gets in 5 years,.. Crazy to hear you always talking about this lol...I can't tell you the last time I had someone with a dry fire it's been years
He’s just a pain in the ass customer Stephen that I wouldn’t be too stressed losing. U putting this out on UA-cam at least backs u against all the bulls&$t bad claims he’s no doubt going to go around saying. Well said indeed
I suppose there is no cure for stupid.
Great work man 👍🏼
I had a shop installed D-Loop fail at full draw without an arrow nocked. The shop replaced the crushed cams, string and limbs free of charge but the holes in my drywall from the speed nocks blowing off the string are on me😂
I'm relatively new to actually trying to get better at archery I have been bow hunting for a while but I'm getting really invested and interested in it now just bought a new mathews phase 4 33 I just found you yesterday I love your information yes I'm in the USA but you put our great information thanks
I've dry fied a bow by using a cheap release that failed. My fault should've had an arrow on it. Had to replace limbs, cams and string. Never said no one told me not to do it.
I thought I would never dryfire a bow, but I guess almost all archers that practice archery for many years, will someday do it - in most cases by accident. And I did with my leverbow - and my brother did with my compound bow. My leverbow didn't hold up - but that was because I used a string with relative few strands, so string broke and damaged the hinges. My compound was fine with it, but in both bows cases I shoot at not more than 42-44# peak draw weight.
I love that you get on the front foot 🎉
I dry fired my pse decree #60 pound bow when I had just installed a new single pin sight , 3 shots at 10 yards then 3 at 20, all set good to go drew the bow release and BANG I said to my self bloody idiot.. so I took the bow to archery supplies and asked them to fix it amazingly it was just derailed, a big thanks to all the people who work there. Fun fact after I got home I shot 1 just next to the bullseye then the second 1 robin hood the nock in no 1 it didn't split the arrow all the way but now I have a 2 in one arrow still got it at home LOL
Well, now he knows.
Too many people nowadays assume they should be told everything. Take personal responsibility for your life.
Crazy, but I've done it. The first crossbow I got as a kid. 150lb I sat in my room dry firing it till friend came running in telling me NO. Limbs were cracked but I still used it for hundreds of shots.
Life is tough. It's even tougher when you're stupid.
WHY??? Bows are made for shooting arrows people.
Every bow I own has " do not dry fire" stickers on the limbs somewhere
My opinion of you just went up 100% anybody who loves dogs are cool in my opinion
G'day Steven, My Dad used to say "you can't fix Stupid".
People don't take responsibility for their actions in today's world. America, Australia- the same. I've had wood recurve risers break (2), and 1 crack. Each within 1000 arrows and one year. They were cheap bows but I was lucky enough to get them replaced. I also have had a compound derail, probably hand torque and cracked a limb. Cheap 500 dollar bow - you learn that limbs and cam parts just made your compound a parts bow.
The world is full of unsafe muppets, I knew a dunce from Dunstable and don't get me started on Constable.
I bought a triangle bow and after unboxing I pulled back without an arrow, no problems first time letting it down slowly - second time I wasn't so lucky....string came off. Some how I managed to get the string back on by loosening the limbs, turning one cam at a time, screwdriver etc in cam... Wow I realise how weak my arms are LOL
Lotta people don’t have a lot of common, also a lot of people don’t learn archery from a coach. But then he expects all things sold should have all their parts in stock too, just in case. Still, lots of those in stock after 5 or 6 years, not a big seller that one. Unlike the Victory VXT’s, a shipment comes in last week, all sold out by this week.
I just have question most learners don't no what dry fire means U as retail don't have to but need to express to begginer not to shoot bow without an arrow placed in the rest?
Poor excuse. Manufacturers put warning labels on their bows, it's written in the manual, on the website and you hear it everywhere. This is when you listen, of course! And always put an Arrow in the bow, recurve, compound doesn't matter! I had the hook of a bow scale came of, luckily arrow was nocked and left a hole in the wall. The only time i don't put an arrow on my compound bow is in the draw board. But here i have an extra safety loop around the bowstring in case the d loop snaps.
Guaranteed anyone who buys a triangle bow is definitely gonna dry fire it, straight out of the box
If you've still got stock of those bows after 6 or 7 years you should make a video of a dry fire in slow motion. You'd probably get your money back from UA-cam views. Then you can give the guy the nut he needs from the wreckage.
Not in Australia, UA-cam doesn't pay add sense to us thanks to the govt.
Damn parts costs are more in australia! As a tech in Canada I was able to get new cams for customers on most bows for less than 250.
Where in Canada are you located?
I'm near Niagara falls
@@Voxguitarsrock Ottawa
Live and learn.
Do the big compound manufacturers still offer lifetime warranty on thier flagship models?
to quote from Hoyt's warranty:
"This warranty covers any defects in materials or workmanship in your new Hoyt compound bow riser, limbs, limb pockets and eccentrics (Cams)
This warranty does not cover:
Bows that show signs of misuse, alteration, or mishandling."
@@ScottPankhurst
That’s fair, but assuming you treat your bow well (as well as a hunting bow can be treated) and it blows up after 10 years of ownership, what happens then?
@@thenameiwantedwastaken Chances are... It will be out of production well before 10 years. Will you still be using an outdated 10 year old bow?
Unlike firearms, bows age like milk.
A lot of small print usually states that lifetime warrenty means... Lifetime of the product not your lifetime... So if they stopped making it and theres no part in the warehouse.
Buy a new bow.
@@thenameiwantedwastakenyou'll probably still be out of luck, as far as I know. They will probably not have stock of the parts you'll need. And the only manufacturer I know of to machine parts to order (like cams/modules from bows that are that old) is mathews.
Elite has a warranty for the lifetime of the bow. Still unsure what to make of that.
My dealer said that Hoyts philosophy is that a bow should last an average of 8 years. I've gotten new limbs within that frame, some were branded with the model 5 years after release (my carbon matrix). But some (my Nitrum) didn't have the model name on the replacement limbs, even though it was a much younger bow at the time.
@@sahhull
I am
15 years and counting
Wouldve upgraded but not a lot of manufacturers make a long axle hunting bow in my draw length
drawing a bow with no arrow is like pointing a unloaded rifle at someone..... you just don't do it.
I cant believe this is still a problem for you🤷♂️
You didn't mention the original price of the bow 🤣
At the 13 second mark of this video he mentions the bow cost $150.
@@maxschell8823 it was a yoke, he mention the price like 2.000 times
If you hand a bow to a noobe it is your responsibility to tell them not to dry fire it
my god the amount of ppl who dry fire compound bows is unreal, I've started back upon FB due to my archery club, as such went further & joined other archery related forums again on FB... the amount of innocent ppl posting "how do you restring a compound" such & such manufacturer is terrible as my limbs are cracking etc after 1+ years of ownership "allegedly" but myself & many other ppl ask how did the damage occur "no replies to anyone" there just after a cheap repair & to sell the bow on. I've both a 2022 PSE Citation 40" & a old classic Browning (20+ years old) & I've had no issues with either...
I've seen on ebay a browning being sold as excellent condition, yet you look at the images & clear as day, all the limbs edges visible are cracked multiple times upwards of 10" long on each limb, emailing the seller, the reply several months ago was "its how I received it & it shoots perfectly" that's an explosion at anytime bow.
lots of ppl beginning in archery really don't have the attitude to try kite flying, let alone archery.....
I'd ask anyone wanting a laugh join archery forums on FB, as the amount of ppl spouting off about dealers, manufacturers etc is unreal..
myself I've only had issues with one compound bow yrs ago, trying it out for a friend after it was purchased used... setting it up etc, firing it arrows went allover, string slapping my arm, for doing nothing wrong etc.. only after saying to myself WTF with this bow.. I went back to stock, removed everything looked at the bow & drew it back "all appeared fine" when checking the limb bolts, well "problem found" the previous 'experienced' owner had one limb say turned 6-7down, the other limb 3-4 at best, once this was corrected the bow was perfect, a shop did give it the lookover after I raised concerns of possible damage due to such poor set-up, other then new strings as a precaution the limbs were given the no issues found, my work all no issues etc
I only wish ppl would understand if your a newbie.. learn the basics, do a beginners course, learn recurve, get experience & then maybe after a couple of yrs move to compound... just get assistance from a club or shop. stop being a know it all type of person as YOUR dangerous..
another FB post how do you lower the poundage on a compound... purchased from amazon "GRRRreat!" yet she was a 10yr experienced archer, who's never used a bow but she has a 170lb crossbow "compound style" uknow the ones with pretty much identical limb bolts to reduce poundage, when I pointed out she sounds like a newbie, she should seek real help rather then asking online ie FB, learn teh basics.. I'm then everything from a sexist, speaking down to her & so-on.. "STOP blooming pretending"
Well I wish it was with the case with fishing gear fuck I should take bow hunting up instead of fishing lol.
Hahahahaha.. you should have to pass a course before buying a bow.
1hr course on general knowledge.
Lol
Yet we still allow them to vote without taking a test.
spray it with water first then you can fire it
No wonder you end up in hospital