This man is the best dodge Mechanic i have ever seen and unlike some other youtubers he actually gets back to you every time I've ever asked him for anything
Many thanks for the kind words. I try to answer as many comments and question that I can....its getting harder and harder as the channel grows. Appreciate the support!
Good morning, I have a 2014 dodge avenger 3.6. The engine started vibrating and the engine light came on. We put a tester under the dash and it read code po520 would that cause the engine to vibrate?
So glad I found this page. My wife called today from her 2016 Jeep GC and said low oil pressure light just came on. I said pull over and shut it down. I drove 8 miles to meet her and oil was all underneath the car. No oil on the stick. Had it towed home and put a gallon back in, just to drive it off the wrecker and into the shop. Now it's not leaking (other than residual on frame/pan) Drain plug, filter cap, and filler cap all tight. Had no clue where to start looking. This video helped me at least find a starting point. Thanks, and wish me luck.
MotorCity Mechanic really knows his stuff. He is very knowledgeable and well experienced just by the way that he presents himself. I myself am a veteran mechanic, my hat off to you MotorCity Mechanic... keep sharing the knowledge!
Perfect solution The shop was about to replace the oil sender and I found your videos. It was the wrong filter from Napa just as you said. I replaced it with the correct filter and all light are gone and the Van is not in limp mode anymore. You saved me 300$ as it was going in for repair this afternoon. I learnt a lesson not to trust the parts stores computer when you ask for something it might not be correct. Thanks again
This just happened to me today. It is a 2014 Jeep Wrangler JK with 82,000 miles on it. It is a few months older than its warranty and I think I'm going to be eating this one. Based on how common this issue was/is on the 2014 this should have been a recall item. New subscriber here. Really enjoyed your style of presentation.
Confirms everything I've read the last few days about this oil filter / bypass valve assembly. I love his quote, "you know parts people, they give you what they give you, they ain't always right".
Oil change today revealed a broken spring valve mechanism. Nobody at the shop knew how it was supposed to work or if it was necessary. Even a trip to the local Dodge dealer left me wondering what part needed to be replaced - they could not find anything of the sort and no exploded diagram. I suspected then that this would require a whole new housing, or maybe it came with the cap. Your video cleared up all the mystery. I don't often comment on youtube videos, but your video really deserved an 'attaboy' today. Thanks!
+Tim Guezen I have been working with Dorman products to come up with a repair piece for this issue. It still may be awhile however. In the mean time the only repair is replacement of the oil filter housing/cooler assembly. They don't sale the individual pieces. I'm hoping that Dorman changes that. It's been something that I have been after them about for awhile now. Thanks for the comment and make sure to subscribe if you haven't already
I got my test samples into today......will be testing them out over the weekend. I will make a video about it once done. If all goes well.....it will be Nov/Dec before its avail at your local parts store.
Been chasing an oil leak on one of these engines for 3 days. I found it after watching your video. To bad i can't get part for 2 weeks. Thanks for making video, it saved my butt.
I have actually done a few videos about that. That bypass valve is my one claim to fame.....after going around and talking to companies, Dorman was the one that agreed that it was needed and we worked together on making it happen. Thanks for watching and make sure to subscribe.
@@MotorCityMechanic that is cool! However, I found the Dorman part to be just as failure prone. After two failures I opted to install the 2014-present assembly. I have a question related to the Slight extra height of the later cooler. Does the extra height indicate an increased cooling capacity or is it simply due to different supplier?
I had to replace this on my 2015 Chrysler 200s 3.6. I changed all the gaskets and did everything as I was told. After that though, my engine never sounded the same. Now one of my cylinders (cylinder 6) has a misfire. Change the spark plugs and the boots and it's still giving me the same error. Funny thing everything started going to hell after I had to change my radiator too, after my warranty expired. I'm to the point of selling this car. Thank you for your videos bro. You definitely explained everything really good. I really appreciate this.
Thanks for the info.. Here's another issue with this units: Coolant leaks. It has a series of plugs in the housing , depending on what vehicle it's used on. On my 2014 caravan, one plug let go and lost all coolant. Terrible design and location for a "plastic" assembly.
Your correct. It’s rare that it leaks coolant but it can for sure. I fully agree about it being made of plastic....not my favorite. Thanks for watching and make sure to subscribe
@@MotorCityMechanic mine is leaking coolant seems to be just pouring out from it somwhere through that valley started slowly for a few months but now it just drains the system in seconds and is un-driveable I'm sure it's not getting in the oil though.
I have a 2016 wrangler I have change my oil since the beginning thank you for making me pay extra special attention to the oil filter I could easily see getting the wrong filter popping it in there and not realizing it’s the wrong one thanks again for this video. Just one moment in lapse of judgment and it could cost you an engine it’s not like you can see down in there when you pop that filter in
@MC - This is an excellent video. I just learned about this plastic part breaking a few days ago. And here you have full video and writeup on this issue. The newer housing has had problems and there's been two engineering changes to remedy the situation. My question to you... can the newer housing be used on the 2011-2013 3.6L motor? I think the newer filter design is better than the older design assuming they worked out the 2014 and newer housing design issues. Thanks in advance..
I haven't tried to see if it will interchange with the older style. One issue I would see is the obvious.....every time you had the oil changed they would try to install the wrong oil filter. Both versions use a different style of cartridge filter.I have seen that done before by an aftermarket shop and it caused no oil pressure. Luckily it didn't damage the engine. Thanks for finding my channel and watching the video. Make sure to subscribe if you haven't already
OK... I perform my own oil changes so that won't be a problem. This link was posted in a thread on Wrangler Forums.. that's how I found your video. I'm sure you'll be receiving many more visitors.. the thread is about a 2014 Jeep that the engine was "blown" and FCA is not honoring the warranty due to the oil filter. I'm assuming it has somthing to do with your findings. Great work here.
+a990dna Thanks.....I will try to see if I can get my hands on both versions to see if anything obvious is different when side to side. Its always cool to hear about links in forum threads.....glad to see that others are sharing the videos. I too would prefer the newer style if its possible.
MotorCity Mechanic i have a 2012 Grand Cherokee 3.6 and i just put new gaskets on the part but two days later it is leaking agin does it mean i need a new part??
I dont think the seals/gaskets were the initial leak.....I believe it was the plastic assembly. I recommend replacing the complete assembly this time and then you shouldnt have any issues. I do have some new assemblies for sale if your interested. Its an option if your interested. If so then email me at david@motorcitymechanic.com. Thanks again for watching and make sure to subscribe
Just did my oil change in my 2011 I just bought two months ago and when I removed the filter the valve was there and I turned around to get the new filter and I heard a ping and gone... Fell down into the pan I drained the oil into. Luckily autozone had the Dorman bypass valve. Bad design but glad I was able to get the part to fix it! Love your videos man I've learned a lot about these engines.
Thats how it always happens for me.....I take the cap off and then get prepared for the sound. Most time nothing happens. Glad to see the part is in stock in stores. Wish I had asked Dorman for some money for the idea lol....lessons learned. Thanks for watching and for following the channel. Appreciate you reaching out as well.
MotorCity Mechanic I'm sure they have made a lot of money off that part. You should have gotten some compensation since you were part of the process and making people aware.
I truly value your videos. There are a large number of Jeep Wrangler guys such as myself that would love to see more Jeep 3.6 "How-To" videos. Many of us Jeep guys turn our own wrenches and truly appreciate you sharing your knowledge. Thank you!
@@MotorCityMechanic Thanks again, I and my Jeep buddies swapped out the oil cooler/filter housing this past Saturday (7 hours to do the work) and your torque sequence and torque pressure guide helped us BIG TIME. We decided to clamp the coolant hose rather than drain and it worked like a charm. While we were in there, we changed out the spark plugs and PCV as well. 85K, it was nearly time to do it regardless.
A regular engineer: "Lets place the oil cooler in an easy to reach spot in front of the radiator and isolate it from coolant so they won't mix, making it out of metal will make it last too." Retarded Chrysler engineer: "Dur, duh, let's place the coolant and oil right next to each other in a plastic container in the middle of the engine! I'm smart!"
Thanks alot man you saved me $$$- i almost went to a dealership... "I got a oil change at Firestone on my Dodge Charger 3.6 Sxt 2014- The specs on the oil filter they put seemed to be the right size and new style but it was a cheap after market part (Engine light turned on>oil pressure was high/engine was running rough!)... I bought a Mopar OEM oil filter installed it myself> car runs great an nomore engine light..."
John Perez Goes to show you that quality matters. It’s the reason why I recommend OEM when ever possible. Glad you got it figured out in the end. Appreciate the comment and thanks for watching. Make sure to subscribe
I was getting so worried that I was going to have to replace the Oil filter housing, but thanks to your video I got the dorman part and done. Thank you
Good day sir, Just bought a Grand Cherokee 2013 and since i do a bit of mechanic i got into your great videos, Thanks men it's going to help me if i run into problems.
this guy is amazing, very knowledgeable and informative, no bias, for just a regular guy like me, information is our best source so we have at least a slightest idea how "mechanics world talks" thank you, your kindness will go far.
I used the new housing and right filter for that housing and a new sending unit. When I went to Auto Zone to get the sending unit I also tried to get the temp sensor but he showed me that the 2013 durango 3.6 didnt have a listing for an oil temp sensor. I thought wtf it has to have one im looking at a temp sensor of some kind but its not related to the P06dd I cant seem to get away from. You are the best at explaining the ins and outs of mechanics. I appreciate that:)
I just brought my wife's Journey into the shop for the oil leak you described on top. It's still under warranty some I hope it gets fixed soon. I am glad I know what to look for in the future. Thanks for the video!
Confirmed today that this was the culprit. It is covered under the power train warranty so no charge or deductible. The part is on back order according to the dealership though and they are having a problem getting it in.
Anthony Arevalo Glad it is covered and will not cost you anything. We both know the vehicle isn't drivable so hopefully they can expedite to so that they can get there hands on one faster.
Thanks for heads up. I have a 2020 so the new style filter. Vehicle has less than 2000 miles so hopefully it will be quite a while before I see these issues but helpful troubleshooting if it does come around. Based on seeing the full assembly off the vehicle and the plastic main body my main concern would be a stress fracture/crack of the entire housing body or crack around the cartridge housing.
Last week I bought a 2015 Ram Tradesman Cargo C/V bright white with 1300 miles on it. Man, they are very rare and hard to find now with lower miles on them. They stopped making them. That's cool with me, might be a collectible someday! Great to hook-up with you and your expertise on the Pentastar 3.6 and I'll be one of your disciples from here on out! ( Hope the service tech at my local Dodge Dealership used the upgraded oil filter on my 2015??) Thanks Again DJ Ellensburg, WA
+Dk J That's cool DJ. I'm sure the correct oil filter was used without a doubt. Glad that you liked the videos. Enjoy the vehicle and now go make some money with it lol
Appreciate your videos. Just ordered the part via your Amazon link. Like you said there are 2 part numbers that appear to be interchangeable, but filters change. My 2015 200C 3.6L uses PN#68105583AE, same number for other models except E is an F and filter doesn't have the locator pin type end. Started this adventure going after an oil pressure sending unit code and using your 2 part video on that. Had tried your shortcut video, but just couldn't get to it so went the manifold off route. Once I got to it the sending unit just spun as the bushing in the housing that it screws into was stripped and had been visibly leaking by. Also worth noting is all the parts houses are selling a 1-1/16 oil pressure switch as a direct replacement that uses a standard 1-1/16 hex head so sending unit sockets won't fit (to small without the rounded edges) and there isn't room to get a normal 3" long deep well in there so unless you get an OEM sending unit plan on removing this "Oil Filter HSNG" just to replace the pressure sending unit. Any idea what the torx head size is on these housings and what the torque spec is?
Actually I have a few videos related to the housing replacement that include that info. Here is the link to one of that series: ua-cam.com/video/f0doIZI-fp4/v-deo.html
This video just really helped me because that damn spring broke on me last night and fell down the hole inside the assembly. Thought the damn thing went in the motor.
Glad to see that the videos help. Appreciate the feedback. Dont forget to subscribe if you havent already. That engine is the main engine we use currently and its in alot of vehicles. You can use the same videos for other models as well if need be.
I finally replaced mine with an AL unit from Amazon. Put in a the 2014 style filter. Thought it would not fit in between the cylinder heads due to the cap on one of the casting plugs. But it went in! Old plastic unit had a bad O-ring on the oil supply tube, about a quart of oil in the galley. All the plastic clips are a PITA and some important ones break! Just so you are aware, purge hose broke in half due to brittleness.
That by pass valve is made by Dorman... you can get it from most auto parts and they usually have it in stock. Saved me a ton of headache before and it was the night before a long trip
Dorman makes a replacement valve and spring to fix this issue # 917-992 filter bypass vave. Snaps right in, just make sure none of the old pieces are still in the cage "tower". List is $50, looks like they know how much money it saves you because for what it is the price should be about $5. Thanks for the video, it's nice to see what I'm dealing with without taking it all apart myself. The lower ring of the valve was inside the cage and I almost put the new valve on top of it, when I fished it out it fell down in the hole at the bottom. I figure it's just plastic so maybe it can't do much damage plus it's on the outside of the filter which means oil is flowing up from that hole. I do caution people to be careful not to drop the spring in there because the black hole at the bottom grabs everything although I assume you'd be able to retrieve it with a magnet pickup tool.
Thank you for the video. It helps me understand better. My Dodge called to say when they tried to change the oil filter it broke and it broke because it was rotted and a bad design. So now I see that is not the case...the design may be bad but not that it was rotted. Hoping to fight the charges today.
The part is about $30.00 so dont let them try to sale you on the entire assembly. If you have seen my other videos on the issue you will know that Dorman now makes a repair kit just for that broken bypass valve, part # 917-992. Thanks for watching and for the comment. HAve a great weekend and make sure to subscribe
Great video, straight to the point an no B:S . I have replace so many housing . Yes you are right customers do get the wrong filters . Dorman does make the by pass spring assembly. We have lube tech have them break all the time . Thanks for doing the video.
Yeah I did a few videos about the bypass valve. I was the one that contacted Dorman about the item and we worked together and got it rolling and on to the shelves. Actually made a few videos about that. Chrysler finally started to offer it as well in the last few months....a bit late if you ask me. None the less thanks for watching and for the comment. Make sure to subscribe!
Great video and info, you're the best. My oil pressure bypass spring just flew out as I was about to install a new filter. Never found the little plastic valve, just the spring. Couldn't find anything on Alldata about the spring only on how to replace the hole housing assembly. Your video really cleared everything up. Thanks.
Thanks for the comment. I wish someone would make a replacement piece instead of the whole assembly. Like the "help" section at your local parts store. Maybe one day they will. I appreciate you watching and make sure to subscribe
@ 2:48 See the protrusion at the side? There are 3 or 4 and they keep the cage in the tube. The spring pressing against make the thing shoot out and chip apart on reentry (like a little space ship) So I am gonna file down the 'catchs' and the button cage thing might be able to be removed, but at least it won't shoot out.
I work as a mechanic for a municipality where we are basically our own customer (as opposed to working flat rate for a customer) and have always wondered what your employers think of you guys making videos of you working? Great videos by the way. I can usually just use the little time bar thingy along the bottom or speed up the video just to see how you go about something I may be working on. We currently have 10 Ram 3500s and 9 Ram 5500s and I am here because of my '11 Durango 3.6.
Thank you! great highly instructive. Have had this problem with my Jeep and it is a common problem with the 3.6. Youd think that Theye'd redesign it! also ran into the problem with Auto Zone trying to sell me the wrong oil filter. What a difference a year model makes. (Mine is a 2014) Got my first one replaced under warranty so now at 141k I will be waiting for your video on replacement when the shoe drops.
Had to replace the oil sender on my 2014 Cherokee. Somewhat of a pain. But easier than my 2002 Blazer. Did use your videos to help me in removing and replacing the intake manifold properly.
Its not fun thats for sure but there are other repairs that really suck when compared to that as you mentioned. Thanks for reaching out and for commenting Jay. Make sure to subscribe.
Great video! Been there done that. Replaced it myself. I figured out when a oil change place would change my oil, they really wrenched on that 24MM cap housing. Bending and tweeking everything. Then the oil started leaking. Since I bought the van from my owner, I do every oil change. I'm very careful removing and tightening the cap. My question to you is: what can be done with the transmission to keep it from shifting down 1,2, even 3 gears going down a hill?? I will be going 70 MPH. As I start to go down the hill if I don't keep steady pressure on the gas pedal, and let off some to keep my speed at 70, the transmission will shift down! I'll go from 2,200 RPM to over 4,000 to 5,000 RPM!!!!! Ive tried everything to make it not do it. Nothing works! I put it in manual mode, still does it. Cruise on or of, still does it. Keeping my foot on the gas, when I do that, my speed just keeps increasing and now I am speeding! So whenever I see a down hill coming, I have to back way off and do like 40 to 45 MPH down a hill because of the shifting down. SO that puts everyone else trying to run me over going down a hill. I cringe everytime! Is there anyway to shut this off??? I hate it! I don't like my engine to go over 3,000 rpms! It's been back to the dealer many times and they say the transmission is working the way it's designed to. I'm and Expediter and I haul freight all over the country in this van. I have over 555,000 miles on it. I love the van, except for the transmission. I would think there would be a switch on the dash to shut it off. We think it's a program in the PCM or TCM that makes it do it. Can it be over written or deleted??? Cause I will tell you, it really sucks going 70 mph and all of a sudden your transmission drops down 3 gears and your engine is screaming!!! All these Promasters do it. Most people don't care and they just let them rev. I don't. Mine is a 2014 Ram Promaster 3500 3.6. Any information would be greatly appreciated !!! Thank you! Randy.
Thank you for explaining this so an older woman with no automotive experience can understand. Having this replaced right now on my 2017 Ram 1500. I was a little taken back at how much money i am going to be spending on this so I thought I would research it. Is it typically a 500. To 600.$ job??
Very true.....its been out for about 1-2 years now. Chrysler finally came out with one last summer as well. Good to know that there are options. Thanks for commenting and for watching. Make sure to subscribe.
@@michaelreyes8887 The version in the video is the old model....they have revised it a few times since and now its not an issue like it use to be. Thanks for asking Michael.
Great video as usual. I was an engineer (thankfully electrical not responsible for any designing) at Chrysler/FCA for over 10+ years). Scenario: My wife called me 10 minutes after she left claiming it (2015 GC Summit), 3.6L) was overheating. I went there and found there was no coolant in the system. I went to the gas station and bought a gallon poured it into the radiator and made it home. After looking at it, it was determined the leak was coming from behind the oil filter somewhere on top of the assembly. I mean it was squirting a stream of coolant ~3/8" from this spot (I saw it myself). My question, have you ever seen this part acting in this sort of way and before I tear everything apart, I wanted your opinion. I checked it and only coolant (dirty) was piling up. No codes, or anything from either WiTech or CDA except for an overheating scenario. Have your ever seen this before and is it worth it to replace it. Thanks for all your help, it has saved me a lot of $ and time in the past...
Yeah the housing will either leak oil or coolant. The coolant leak can be internal to the oil system or leak externally and that’s where my money is on yours. One of the plastic “port plugs” may have popped out or where the coolant bolts to the housing it might be leaking
@@MotorCityMechanic thank you sir. I see why I studied the electric side. Five years on EVs now and I'll never go back. Excellent knowledge, CDA is a wonderful and powerful tool, if you can get it. You already have a DealerConnect account, so it will do wonders. It blows WiTech out of the water!
@MotorCityMechanic I have replaced the 3.6 oil cooler on my 2016 Town&Country with a aluminum one and now it says 5 psi oil pressure at idle. I replaced the oil pressure sensor with a mopar bc I thought the aftermarket one was no good (it was 4 psi and the oil light would go on). Even have the mopar oil filter. It was 19 psi before I changed it. So no oil light at 5 psi do you think it's good enough? It goes beyond the minimum like over 10 at 1000rpm. Over 20@2000rpm, over 30@3000rpm etc.
This was very helpful thanks! I got given the wrong oil filter from the parts guy (Older style for my 2014). I as suspicious when it looked different to the old one. When I put it in, low oil pressure 0.4 -1.2 Bar. It should be 5.0 Bar plus. Returned to normal as soon as i put the right filter in
thanks for the kind words, they are much appreciated. thanks for taking the time to watch as well as commenting. make sure to subscribe if you haven't already
Dean Hamilton Morning Dean.....it depends on the vehicle. The rear wheel drive vehicles will have to have both the upper and lower intake manifolds removed. On the front wheel drivers you may not have to. I know for sure that on the minivans I can get it out with out removing anything. I actually did a video on this for the minivan. I feel pretty good that I should be able to do the same on the other front wheel driver vehicles as well
Dean Hamilton Yeah Dean.....you will need to remove both the upper and lower intakes. If your replacing it.....first make sure someone didn't install the wrong style oil filter cartridge. I have seen this a few times so far without checking the obvious.
with out knowing if this is the real problem I'm so confident I'm just going to order the part everything you said is what I have been getting the oil over the transmission housing the code keep up the great videos and you're way of explaining the problems and how to fix them
I feel that will be your cause of the leak. If you have around 100k miles on the vehicle it might be the best time to replace the spark plugs while everything is apart.
Nice video! I've got a 2012 wrangler with the 3.6l. After watching this, I'm pretty sure I need to replace the oil filter housing. I had oil everywhere underneath and on my hood. Thanks!
+Jesse Whaley Double check to make sure nothing like the o-ring on the oil filter cap. Usually the oil will pool up under the intake and run out at back of the engine and down the trans. I cant say I have seen one causing oil on the hood, but anything is possible I'm sure. Tanks for the comment and for taking time to watch this video. Make sure to subscribe as well
Oh my I can't find my spring in the oil canister. Maybe that's why I got po328 (guessing #) I have replaced the oil pressure sensor & cleared the code, but before I saw a few oil leaks & still (when I am oil change) haven't found the spring. Anyway I thank you for explaining & showing (especially about the spring inside the oil canister) I knew I didn't lose it but I couldn't find that darn thing, maybe this caused my engine light to come on. I replaced it, so far no engine light came on. (Driven it 5 miles) Hopefully that is it. Again thank for your time on the UTube. See what happens later as I continued to drive my Chrysler; Town & country.
Excellent informative, in focus, detailed succinct video. Thank you I am about to investigate an issue that I suspect involves one of the issues you raised
Great video, very informative... on the paper filter theres 4 tabs that lock into the threaded cap. On a premium paper filter there is a piece of plastic hanging between the 4 tabs...does that plastic piece that hanging between tabs sit in the tower on the bypass valve?
Yup, dealing with parts stores they do give ya what their computer tells them the part is. Got an oil filter for my old Ford Fusion, they handed me a 'spin on' type, I needed the 'cartridge', but that's what their computer said!
@@MotorCityMechanic I have a tenancy to look at the parts before I pay, then when I get beside the car, and again when I've got old and new side by side! Went to a store before and ordered a timing chain for my 2000 dodge 5.2lt, kid brought out a dbl roller, I had the original in a rag, SILENT! ''But that's what my computer says!''
He's truly the best. I've learnt so much (not as a mechanic although my dad was one). I have saved close to 3k just watching his videos. I lovely his succinct dive into all parts and his suggestion on how to deal with the issues. Thanks my man.
I recently changed my oil for the second time in my 2014 DGC 3.6L. Soon after, I started smelling burning oil and at first thought i had spilled a little oil when refilling it (I didn't, maybe a little when draining it however). The smell got worse and I took a long look all over the engine and found the telltale pools of oil on the transmission. I know what to do now and Id like to replace the unit with a Mopar OEM part. However they are on extreme backorder at the dealership (they have 31 ordered already) and I can't find one online. I purchased the O-ring kit today thinking that I could try this approach. I feel as confident about doing it as I will ever feel (until I actually do it), but I just don't want to put all the work into it and have it not be the O-rings. I had no idea I could damage the unit by over-tightening the filter screw cover either time that I changed the oil, so I could have easily done it and this could be self-inflicted. If it is, could the failure be at the O-rings or is the housing likely cracked? Is there an after market part manufacturer that you could recommend for this part.
Great to hear that the parts are on the shelf! The more people that know about it the better. Thanks for finding this video and for buying the repair kit. Make sure to subscribe
I know......I got with them and asked them to make it and over time going back and worth.....they agreed and now we have it. Check out the link: ua-cam.com/video/rViwIKhyoR4/v-deo.html
Aw man that's a great video deeply appreciated I was wondering cause my wife has the 2011 journey crew 3.6 I removed her oil and found oil and what seemed like mixer of coolant in that valley range you described she has the new filter like you stated not the spring one I removed her oil rings on the bottom on three of holes there's a small piece broke off on the right side of each of the three holes in the same spot where the oil rings go like someone most likely our mechanic or his helpers accidentally used a screw driver or something to remove the oil rings and might of chipped off those small tiny pieces I removed the oil rings with my thumb fingernail didn't break anything on the other ones when I put back on the oil rings it covers those small spots flush but could it still possibly leak from there even though it seems sealed in with the new oil rings and the oil temp sensor and that other sensor do they need to be wrenched in all the way when I removed my wife's I still see threads on her sensors like they were not tightened all the way or is that the way they go also will I just have to replace the whole oil cooler housing like you mentioned possibly we've had our mechanic replace it three times and try to fix it about at least six times or more since 2014 and he's ASE Certified with his own shop him and his wife we've known and respect for years they do great work also but it seems at times the journey frustrates him with the same problem alot of the times if you can respond when you get a chance I sure would be thankful also I like your channel keep up the great job you do good work thanks
Thanks alot for this video! Since the oil filter cap relies on the o-ring for sealing and not the threads, would you say perhaps it would be a good idea to simply not tighten the cap down all the way each time you do an oil change to mitigate against overtightening issues and risk breaking the canider?
Great information for sure. If I ever do have an issue, I have and old style unit, if I need to replace it, can I replace it with the newer style unit? to prevent future problems
You can but installing the wrong oil filter would be an easy mistake if you did that...especially if some one else changes the oil in the future....remember.....we dont keep vehicles for ever so eventually someone else will be driving it one day. Personally I would just keep a bypass kit in the glove box just incase. Thnaks for the question. Make sure to subscribe!
I just had one I had to replace yesterday just for this reason. Usually the oil leak level gets high enough that it starts flowing out the rear and on top of the trans. Thanks for watching and make sure to subscribe
Great video. It's gonna help me abit tomorrow when I attempt replacing that oild filter adapter O-RINGS. I got a very small coolant leak from there I believe .
I wish you luck......when it comes to that job I always recommend the assembly. Hate to have to do the job twice if those seals arent the cause. Cheaper yes but might cost you more in time. Thanks for commenting and make sure to subscribe.
I'm in the process of flushing the cooling system, Have you found hat there is a check valve in this cooler. I pulled the pipe going to the cooler and tried to flush it with a garden hose and it is not taking any pressure. Its a 2011 Chrysler 200 that recently overheated and my g/f shut the car down but I have discovered that the coolant is sludgy and brown, I don't believe it was ever flushed or changed. But I did the heater core and that was ok, but this has me stumped. Thanks bud!
@@MotorCityMechanic have you found these to crack internally? I flushed the block and I still managed to lose 1qt of oil into the coolant system yesterday while idling and trying to run flush through the car. There is still no mixing of coolant into the oil. The car idles fine, but looses 2psi of pressure on a pressure test. It was overheated and run out of coolant, but I believe the GF only had it running for a mins after the low coolant light turned on. I'm kinda puzzled, I looked at your other video about doing a head gasket and I find it hard to believe that this car lifted the head since it idles smooth as butter and doesn't show signs of compression. Thanks for your help sir.
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Yesterday a rookie guy from JiffyLube At Memphis did an oil change and all the sudden about 200 miles later I was replacing my light bulb and there was tons of oil in my coolant reservoir. I saw him having hard time replaying the filter.. I honestly believe he broke something when closing it up I saw him flipping the filter couple times to make it sit. I have 2016 Ram Promaster.
I havent seen the wrong filter cause the coolant and oil to mix. The only thing that usually causes that is a failure oil cooler. If an oil changer screws anything up it will usually cause an oil leak or check engine light. Based on the oil in the coolant......I dont feel they caused it. Thats just my opinion. Where is located.....they cant get access to it do any damage....it would be an internal failure. Doesnt mean that they didnt install the wrong filter but just not coolant related.
MotorCity Mechanic thank you man.. now the oil is getting more in the reservoir. It’s definitely the engine oil not anything else I had to add more engine oil to the engine. I am in Canada now driving all the way to Minnesota (home) do you think it’s safe to drive
@@showmequick2245 I would keep an eye on it.....its not a good situation but you have to do what you have to do. In a perfect world I would say tow it and have it fixed but thats not always possible. Take it easy and keep checking the oil level and your coolant temp.
I was wandering from where the engine is getting some oil stains. I have 115000 miles and this is the first time that I change oil on it, it was always done at the dealership. I found the plastic cover cracked and slightly loose and there is no pressure valve in at all. I wander how long it has been that way. Thank you for your great advice.
I did a video on the 3.6 left side head removal....it goes over that phaser removal when removing the head. Feel free to check it out to see if it gives you the needed info.....now the right side is a bit different so keep that in mind, requires a different special tool for taking tension off the chain. Here is the link: ua-cam.com/video/OG4-IKSwzFk/v-deo.html
MotorCity Mechanic that's exactly what I needed. Thanks again. quick question though. Have you ever had a tensioner causing a camshaft sensor intermittent bank 1 sensor 2
Thank you for video, has the same problem with this piece of plastic in oil adapter. So the reason to solve it to change filter for new design and not need this broken plastic piece!?
Great video and helped me solve part of my problem. I have a 2012 JK Wrangler. In the process of changing the oil I removed the filter, when I turned to get the new filter off my bench, I heard something "crash". The entire center assembly of the oil filter housing had "shot out". Not just the oil pressure bypass switch, but the entire center "cage" thing. At the base was a large spring, so I put it back into the housing and everything seemed to fit together. I then found your video and realized that the pressure bypass switch had disappeared, I'm not sure where it ended up in my garage. I purchased the Dorman replacement, and put everything back together. The only unknown now is whether or not the center part of the housing is working properly. Is it supposed to be able to come out?
Morning, the center portion should not come out. When it does you cant reinstall it correctly. There is some sort of locking mechanism that keeps it in place and when it lets go.....you wont be able to reset it. I have cut one apart once trying to see if I could and had no luck. Not sure what affect it will have as it sits.....in a perfect world I would say replace the oil filter housing/cooler to be on the safe side. Everytime I take one of these older oil filter caps off I step back and wonder if it will spit something out...typically that bypass valve. Thanks for asking and make sure to subscribe.
Man. That center pole or whatever its called fell out on me too. I had no idea where that large spring is supposed to go. So it sits at the base huh? I thought i was able to resit the pole back in by screwing it in but I guess I was just fooling myself.
+OMGodfrey That's really a good question. Do you start taking items off the engine to try to locate such as drop the oil pan to see if it can be found? In a perfect world yes. I haven't seen one broke when it came in already. The ones I see break a second or two after I remove the oil filter cap. I then am able to get all the pieces out. In theory with it being plastic and as small as the piece may be.....the oil pump screen will stop it if it makes it to the oil pan. If you know for sure that the piece fell down the hole then dropping the pan wouldn't be a bad next step to see if it can be located.
Finding your page has helped me learn a lot about my 2012 charger v6... thanks for your help! Lately I have been getting p06dd code and my car would not accelerate after hitting around 3000 rpm. I had recently got my oil changed at dodge dealership checked the filter and it is right. Cleared the code and erase the code it comes back on eventually but the oil psi shows around 40 psi under normal driving temp drops down to as low as 16 at idle when warm. I did notice oil at bottom of filter housing. Should I replace the oil filter housing or the oil pump or both? Again thanks for sharing your knowledge of these Mopar cars
This man is the best dodge Mechanic i have ever seen and unlike some other youtubers he actually gets back to you every time I've ever asked him for anything
Many thanks for the kind words. I try to answer as many comments and question that I can....its getting harder and harder as the channel grows. Appreciate the support!
Good morning, I have a 2014 dodge avenger 3.6. The engine started vibrating and the engine light came on. We put a tester under the dash and it read code po520 would that cause the engine to vibrate?
Thank you for your videos they are very helpful.
How far can I run a vehicle with no oil filter bypass.. Found mine broken. Was able to take out some from the shaft. Nearest shop is 30 miles.
@@MotorCityMechanic how do you get the main wiring harness to release on the 3.6 liter dodge ram on the passanger side of engine.
So glad I found this page. My wife called today from her 2016 Jeep GC and said low oil pressure light just came on. I said pull over and shut it down. I drove 8 miles to meet her and oil was all underneath the car. No oil on the stick. Had it towed home and put a gallon back in, just to drive it off the wrecker and into the shop. Now it's not leaking (other than residual on frame/pan) Drain plug, filter cap, and filler cap all tight. Had no clue where to start looking. This video helped me at least find a starting point. Thanks, and wish me luck.
MotorCity Mechanic really knows his stuff. He is very knowledgeable and well experienced just by the way that he presents himself. I myself am a veteran mechanic, my hat off to you MotorCity Mechanic... keep sharing the knowledge!
Randy BEAR Morton Many thanks for the kind words. I means a lot coming from a fellow tech. Thanks again!
Perfect solution The shop was about to replace the oil sender and I found your videos. It was the wrong filter from Napa just as you said. I replaced it with the correct filter and all light are gone and the Van is not in limp mode anymore. You saved me 300$ as it was going in for repair this afternoon. I learnt a lesson not to trust the parts stores computer when you ask for something it might not be correct. Thanks again
Very true.....to many chances for mistakes. Glad you caught it and found my channel. Appreciate the comment and make sure to subscribe.
This just happened to me today. It is a 2014 Jeep Wrangler JK with 82,000 miles on it. It is a few months older than its warranty and I think I'm going to be eating this one. Based on how common this issue was/is on the 2014 this should have been a recall item. New subscriber here. Really enjoyed your style of presentation.
Sorry it happened James. It does seem to be more common on the 2014 models for sure. Thanks for watching, commenting, and for subscribing.
About to fix mine on my 2013
Confirms everything I've read the last few days about this oil filter / bypass valve assembly.
I love his quote, "you know parts people, they give you what they give you, they ain't always right".
Oil change today revealed a broken spring valve mechanism. Nobody at the shop knew how it was supposed to work or if it was necessary. Even a trip to the local Dodge dealer left me wondering what part needed to be replaced - they could not find anything of the sort and no exploded diagram. I suspected then that this would require a whole new housing, or maybe it came with the cap. Your video cleared up all the mystery. I don't often comment on youtube videos, but your video really deserved an 'attaboy' today. Thanks!
+Tim Guezen I have been working with Dorman products to come up with a repair piece for this issue. It still may be awhile however. In the mean time the only repair is replacement of the oil filter housing/cooler assembly. They don't sale the individual pieces. I'm hoping that Dorman changes that. It's been something that I have been after them about for awhile now. Thanks for the comment and make sure to subscribe if you haven't already
I got my test samples into today......will be testing them out over the weekend. I will make a video about it once done. If all goes well.....it will be Nov/Dec before its avail at your local parts store.
I need one of these ASAP. Please contact me at biss12002@yahoo.com
Been chasing an oil leak on one of these engines for 3 days. I found it after watching your video. To bad i can't get part for 2 weeks. Thanks for making video, it saved my butt.
Not sure if anyone mentioned it but Doorman makes a replacement oil bypass valve part# 917-992
I have actually done a few videos about that. That bypass valve is my one claim to fame.....after going around and talking to companies, Dorman was the one that agreed that it was needed and we worked together on making it happen. Thanks for watching and make sure to subscribe.
@@MotorCityMechanic that is cool! However, I found the Dorman part to be just as failure prone. After two failures I opted to install the 2014-present assembly. I have a question related to the Slight extra height of the later cooler. Does the extra height indicate an increased cooling capacity or is it simply due to different supplier?
@@wak359you installed the 2014- assembly in a -2013 engine? How has that worked out?
Was wonderng about that.
I had to replace this on my 2015 Chrysler 200s 3.6. I changed all the gaskets and did everything as I was told. After that though, my engine never sounded the same. Now one of my cylinders (cylinder 6) has a misfire. Change the spark plugs and the boots and it's still giving me the same error. Funny thing everything started going to hell after I had to change my radiator too, after my warranty expired. I'm to the point of selling this car. Thank you for your videos bro. You definitely explained everything really good. I really appreciate this.
Always good content, I own 2 of these engines and I have done the oil filtre housing on my own on information from your channel. Thank you.
Best mechanic online watching his videos again
Thanks for the info.. Here's another issue with this units: Coolant leaks. It has a series of plugs in the housing , depending on what vehicle it's used on. On my 2014 caravan, one plug let go and lost all coolant. Terrible design and location for a "plastic" assembly.
Your correct. It’s rare that it leaks coolant but it can for sure. I fully agree about it being made of plastic....not my favorite. Thanks for watching and make sure to subscribe
@@MotorCityMechanic mine is leaking coolant seems to be just pouring out from it somwhere through that valley started slowly for a few months but now it just drains the system in seconds and is un-driveable I'm sure it's not getting in the oil though.
He Dude! so god explanation about the common problems in pentastar 3.6 engine cooler and oil filter housing! amazing!
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Got to love it. Almost 300 hp out of a 3.6.
First Class. On my 2nd ProMaster. Thank you from Texas
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Awesome! Glad that I could help. Thanks for being a subscriber as well.
I wish i have seen this video 4 days ago it would have save me almost the whole day of work .... great explanation thanks for sharing your experience
Dude, your the Boss! thank you for the EXCELLENT VIDEO !
Many thanks for the kind words. Glad I could help! Thanks for watching and make sure to subscribe
I have a 2016 wrangler I have change my oil since the beginning thank you for making me pay extra special attention to the oil filter I could easily see getting the wrong filter popping it in there and not realizing it’s the wrong one thanks again for this video. Just one moment in lapse of judgment and it could cost you an engine it’s not like you can see down in there when you pop that filter in
@MC - This is an excellent video. I just learned about this plastic part breaking a few days ago. And here you have full video and writeup on this issue. The newer housing has had problems and there's been two engineering changes to remedy the situation. My question to you... can the newer housing be used on the 2011-2013 3.6L motor? I think the newer filter design is better than the older design assuming they worked out the 2014 and newer housing design issues.
Thanks in advance..
I haven't tried to see if it will interchange with the older style. One issue I would see is the obvious.....every time you had the oil changed they would try to install the wrong oil filter. Both versions use a different style of cartridge filter.I have seen that done before by an aftermarket shop and it caused no oil pressure. Luckily it didn't damage the engine. Thanks for finding my channel and watching the video. Make sure to subscribe if you haven't already
OK... I perform my own oil changes so that won't be a problem. This link was posted in a thread on Wrangler Forums.. that's how I found your video. I'm sure you'll be receiving many more visitors.. the thread is about a 2014 Jeep that the engine was "blown" and FCA is not honoring the warranty due to the oil filter. I'm assuming it has somthing to do with your findings. Great work here.
+a990dna Thanks.....I will try to see if I can get my hands on both versions to see if anything obvious is different when side to side. Its always cool to hear about links in forum threads.....glad to see that others are sharing the videos. I too would prefer the newer style if its possible.
MotorCity Mechanic i have a 2012 Grand Cherokee 3.6 and i just put new gaskets on the part but two days later it is leaking agin does it mean i need a new part??
I dont think the seals/gaskets were the initial leak.....I believe it was the plastic assembly. I recommend replacing the complete assembly this time and then you shouldnt have any issues. I do have some new assemblies for sale if your interested. Its an option if your interested. If so then email me at david@motorcitymechanic.com. Thanks again for watching and make sure to subscribe
Just did my oil change in my 2011 I just bought two months ago and when I removed the filter the valve was there and I turned around to get the new filter and I heard a ping and gone... Fell down into the pan I drained the oil into. Luckily autozone had the Dorman bypass valve. Bad design but glad I was able to get the part to fix it! Love your videos man I've learned a lot about these engines.
Thats how it always happens for me.....I take the cap off and then get prepared for the sound. Most time nothing happens. Glad to see the part is in stock in stores. Wish I had asked Dorman for some money for the idea lol....lessons learned. Thanks for watching and for following the channel. Appreciate you reaching out as well.
MotorCity Mechanic I'm sure they have made a lot of money off that part. You should have gotten some compensation since you were part of the process and making people aware.
Its my mistake for not asking in the beginning......another life lesson learned....just wish I would stop learning them lol
Great video! Very clearly explained. Very helpful.
Much appreciated! Always happy to share some knowledge.
Brother, I owe you many beers (or whatever you drink). Just a damn fine mechanic with an outstanding channel. Thank you
Great video you know your stuff
Thanks Scott. Appreciate you checking out the video and for the kind words. Make sure to subscribe
I truly value your videos. There are a large number of Jeep Wrangler guys such as myself that would love to see more Jeep 3.6 "How-To" videos. Many of us Jeep guys turn our own wrenches and truly appreciate you sharing your knowledge. Thank you!
Many thanks! I will certainly keep the request in mind for future videos. Make sure to subscribe if you havent already.
@@MotorCityMechanic Thanks again, I and my Jeep buddies swapped out the oil cooler/filter housing this past Saturday (7 hours to do the work) and your torque sequence and torque pressure guide helped us BIG TIME. We decided to clamp the coolant hose rather than drain and it worked like a charm. While we were in there, we changed out the spark plugs and PCV as well. 85K, it was nearly time to do it regardless.
BTW, I have been a happy subscriber for months now :-)
@@appleguy1986 Many thanks. I wish youtube would make it obvious who has and how hasnt so that I stop asking people lol.
@@appleguy1986 Glad it worked out and appreciate the update. Sorry about the delay in getting back to you.
That oil unit is a POS.
Certainly not my favorite design. Just finished replacing another leaking assembly. Thanks for watching Kane and make sure to subscribe
I'm wondering why hasn't a recall been done on this part. As of this post the replacement part my mechanic used was version 10.
A regular engineer: "Lets place the oil cooler in an easy to reach spot in front of the radiator and isolate it from coolant so they won't mix, making it out of metal will make it last too."
Retarded Chrysler engineer: "Dur, duh, let's place the coolant and oil right next to each other in a plastic container in the middle of the engine! I'm smart!"
Thank you David. Another excellent video on something that may save alot of people alot of unnecessary problems.
Thanks alot man you saved me $$$- i almost went to a dealership... "I got a oil change at Firestone on my Dodge Charger 3.6 Sxt 2014- The specs on the oil filter they put seemed to be the right size and new style but it was a cheap after market part (Engine light turned on>oil pressure was high/engine was running rough!)... I bought a Mopar OEM oil filter installed it myself> car runs great an nomore engine light..."
John Perez Goes to show you that quality matters. It’s the reason why I recommend OEM when ever possible. Glad you got it figured out in the end. Appreciate the comment and thanks for watching. Make sure to subscribe
I was getting so worried that I was going to have to replace the Oil filter housing, but thanks to your video I got the dorman part and done. Thank you
Good day sir, Just bought a Grand Cherokee 2013 and since i do a bit of mechanic i got into your great videos, Thanks men it's going to help me if i run into problems.
Your welcome and thanks for using my videos when it comes to learning more about your vehicle. Appreciate the following. Make sure to subscribe.
this guy is amazing, very knowledgeable and informative, no bias,
for just a regular guy like me, information is our best source so we have at least a slightest idea
how "mechanics world talks" thank you, your kindness will go far.
I used the new housing and right filter for that housing and a new sending unit.
When I went to Auto Zone to get the sending unit I also tried to get the temp sensor but he showed me that the 2013 durango 3.6 didnt have a listing for an oil temp sensor. I thought wtf it has to have one im looking at a temp sensor of some kind but its not related to the P06dd I cant seem to get away from.
You are the best at explaining the ins and outs of mechanics. I appreciate that:)
On that p06dd code….your going to have to replace the oil pump assembly to get rid of that .
I just brought my wife's Journey into the shop for the oil leak you described on top. It's still under warranty some I hope it gets fixed soon. I am glad I know what to look for in the future. Thanks for the video!
+Anthony Arevalo Your welcome. Let me know how it turns out. Thanks for watching and make sure to subscribe
Confirmed today that this was the culprit. It is covered under the power train warranty so no charge or deductible. The part is on back order according to the dealership though and they are having a problem getting it in.
Anthony Arevalo Glad it is covered and will not cost you anything. We both know the vehicle isn't drivable so hopefully they can expedite to so that they can get there hands on one faster.
Thanks for heads up. I have a 2020 so the new style filter. Vehicle has less than 2000 miles so hopefully it will be quite a while before I see these issues but helpful troubleshooting if it does come around.
Based on seeing the full assembly off the vehicle and the plastic main body my main concern would be a stress fracture/crack of the entire housing body or crack around the cartridge housing.
Last week I bought a 2015 Ram Tradesman Cargo C/V bright white with 1300 miles on it. Man, they are very rare and hard to find now with lower miles on them. They stopped making them. That's cool with me, might be a collectible someday!
Great to hook-up with you and your expertise on the Pentastar 3.6 and I'll be one of your disciples from here on out!
( Hope the service tech at my local Dodge Dealership used the upgraded oil filter on my 2015??)
Thanks Again
DJ
Ellensburg, WA
+Dk J That's cool DJ. I'm sure the correct oil filter was used without a doubt. Glad that you liked the videos. Enjoy the vehicle and now go make some money with it lol
Appreciate your videos. Just ordered the part via your Amazon link. Like you said there are 2 part numbers that appear to be interchangeable, but filters change. My 2015 200C 3.6L uses PN#68105583AE, same number for other models except E is an F and filter doesn't have the locator pin type end. Started this adventure going after an oil pressure sending unit code and using your 2 part video on that. Had tried your shortcut video, but just couldn't get to it so went the manifold off route. Once I got to it the sending unit just spun as the bushing in the housing that it screws into was stripped and had been visibly leaking by. Also worth noting is all the parts houses are selling a 1-1/16 oil pressure switch as a direct replacement that uses a standard 1-1/16 hex head so sending unit sockets won't fit (to small without the rounded edges) and there isn't room to get a normal 3" long deep well in there so unless you get an OEM sending unit plan on removing this "Oil Filter HSNG" just to replace the pressure sending unit. Any idea what the torx head size is on these housings and what the torque spec is?
Actually I have a few videos related to the housing replacement that include that info. Here is the link to one of that series: ua-cam.com/video/f0doIZI-fp4/v-deo.html
This video just really helped me because that damn spring broke on me last night and fell down the hole inside the assembly. Thought the damn thing went in the motor.
Sorry it happened. Its typically just a matter of time before it does. Thanks for finding the channel and video. Make sure to subscribe Robert.
@@MotorCityMechanic will do
awesome videos.... I recently bought a 2013 200, with a 3.6 engine, your videos really are helping me with the service on it, thank you
Glad to see that the videos help. Appreciate the feedback. Dont forget to subscribe if you havent already. That engine is the main engine we use currently and its in alot of vehicles. You can use the same videos for other models as well if need be.
I finally replaced mine with an AL unit from Amazon. Put in a the 2014 style filter. Thought it would not fit in between the cylinder heads due to the cap on one of the casting plugs. But it went in! Old plastic unit had a bad O-ring on the oil supply tube, about a quart of oil in the galley. All the plastic clips are a PITA and some important ones break! Just so you are aware, purge hose broke in half due to brittleness.
That by pass valve is made by Dorman... you can get it from most auto parts and they usually have it in stock. Saved me a ton of headache before and it was the night before a long trip
Dorman makes a replacement valve and spring to fix this issue # 917-992 filter bypass vave. Snaps right in, just make sure none of the old pieces are still in the cage "tower". List is $50, looks like they know how much money it saves you because for what it is the price should be about $5. Thanks for the video, it's nice to see what I'm dealing with without taking it all apart myself. The lower ring of the valve was inside the cage and I almost put the new valve on top of it, when I fished it out it fell down in the hole at the bottom. I figure it's just plastic so maybe it can't do much damage plus it's on the outside of the filter which means oil is flowing up from that hole. I do caution people to be careful not to drop the spring in there because the black hole at the bottom grabs everything although I assume you'd be able to retrieve it with a magnet pickup tool.
Thank you for the video. It helps me understand better. My Dodge called to say when they tried to change the oil filter it broke and it broke because it was rotted and a bad design. So now I see that is not the case...the design may be bad but not that it was rotted. Hoping to fight the charges today.
The part is about $30.00 so dont let them try to sale you on the entire assembly. If you have seen my other videos on the issue you will know that Dorman now makes a repair kit just for that broken bypass valve, part # 917-992. Thanks for watching and for the comment. HAve a great weekend and make sure to subscribe
Great video, straight to the point an no B:S . I have replace so many housing . Yes you are right customers do get the wrong filters . Dorman does make the by pass spring assembly. We have lube tech have them break all the time . Thanks for doing the video.
Yeah I did a few videos about the bypass valve. I was the one that contacted Dorman about the item and we worked together and got it rolling and on to the shelves. Actually made a few videos about that. Chrysler finally started to offer it as well in the last few months....a bit late if you ask me. None the less thanks for watching and for the comment. Make sure to subscribe!
Great video and info, you're the best. My oil pressure bypass spring just flew out as I was about to install a new filter. Never found the little plastic valve, just the spring. Couldn't find anything on Alldata about the spring only on how to replace the hole housing assembly. Your video really cleared everything up. Thanks.
Thanks for the comment. I wish someone would make a replacement piece instead of the whole assembly. Like the "help" section at your local parts store. Maybe one day they will. I appreciate you watching and make sure to subscribe
@ 2:48 See the protrusion at the side? There are 3 or 4 and they keep the cage in the tube. The spring pressing against make the thing shoot out and chip apart on reentry (like a little space ship) So I am gonna file down the 'catchs' and the button cage thing might be able to be removed, but at least it won't shoot out.
I work as a mechanic for a municipality where we are basically our own customer (as opposed to working flat rate for a customer) and have always wondered what your employers think of you guys making videos of you working? Great videos by the way. I can usually just use the little time bar thingy along the bottom or speed up the video just to see how you go about something I may be working on. We currently have 10 Ram 3500s and 9 Ram 5500s and I am here because of my '11 Durango 3.6.
Also note that the filter cap has a torque and correct u 45 degree adapter to be used. If torqued too much the filter housing can crack
Thanks for your reply and I'll enjoy your show as long as you're on.
Thank you! great highly instructive. Have had this problem with my Jeep and it is a common problem with the 3.6. Youd think that Theye'd redesign it! also ran into the problem with Auto Zone trying to sell me the wrong oil filter. What a difference a year model makes. (Mine is a 2014) Got my first one replaced under warranty so now at 141k I will be waiting for your video on replacement when the shoe drops.
Always the best and well thought out explanations!!
Thanks! I always appreciate the feedback on the videos
GREAT VIDEO! Hands down MotorCity Mechanic is one of the best channels on youtube.
Had to replace the oil sender on my 2014 Cherokee. Somewhat of a pain. But easier than my 2002 Blazer. Did use your videos to help me in removing and replacing the intake manifold properly.
Its not fun thats for sure but there are other repairs that really suck when compared to that as you mentioned. Thanks for reaching out and for commenting Jay. Make sure to subscribe.
Great video! Been there done that. Replaced it myself. I figured out when a oil change place would change my oil, they really wrenched on that 24MM cap housing. Bending and tweeking everything. Then the oil started leaking. Since I bought the van from my owner, I do every oil change. I'm very careful removing and tightening the cap. My question to you is: what can be done with the transmission to keep it from shifting down 1,2, even 3 gears going down a hill?? I will be going 70 MPH. As I start to go down the hill if I don't keep steady pressure on the gas pedal, and let off some to keep my speed at 70, the transmission will shift down! I'll go from 2,200 RPM to over 4,000 to 5,000 RPM!!!!! Ive tried everything to make it not do it. Nothing works! I put it in manual mode, still does it. Cruise on or of, still does it. Keeping my foot on the gas, when I do that, my speed just keeps increasing and now I am speeding! So whenever I see a down hill coming, I have to back way off and do like 40 to 45 MPH down a hill because of the shifting down. SO that puts everyone else trying to run me over going down a hill. I cringe everytime! Is there anyway to shut this off??? I hate it! I don't like my engine to go over 3,000 rpms! It's been back to the dealer many times and they say the transmission is working the way it's designed to. I'm and Expediter and I haul freight all over the country in this van. I have over 555,000 miles on it. I love the van, except for the transmission. I would think there would be a switch on the dash to shut it off. We think it's a program in the PCM or TCM that makes it do it. Can it be over written or deleted??? Cause I will tell you, it really sucks going 70 mph and all of a sudden your transmission drops down 3 gears and your engine is screaming!!! All these Promasters do it. Most people don't care and they just let them rev. I don't. Mine is a 2014 Ram Promaster 3500 3.6. Any information would be greatly appreciated !!! Thank you! Randy.
Thank you for explaining this so an older woman with no automotive experience can understand. Having this replaced right now on my 2017 Ram 1500. I was a little taken back at how much money i am going to be spending on this so I thought I would research it. Is it typically a 500. To 600.$ job??
Thank You! This was so educational. I also want to thank you for the video on changing the sensor without removing intake manifold.
Glad they finally came out with a Replacement part for that Bypass!
Very true.....its been out for about 1-2 years now. Chrysler finally came out with one last summer as well. Good to know that there are options. Thanks for commenting and for watching. Make sure to subscribe.
@@MotorCityMechanic can this happenen on 2018 sxt Challenger I'm having bthis issue on my 2018?
@@michaelreyes8887 The version in the video is the old model....they have revised it a few times since and now its not an issue like it use to be. Thanks for asking Michael.
Excellent Video, Excellent work MotorCity Mechanic. Gonna bust this out this weekend just because I found this video.
Thanks. Appreciate the feedback. Take your time and you should do well. Make sure to subscribe.
Great video as usual. I was an engineer (thankfully electrical not responsible for any designing) at Chrysler/FCA for over 10+ years).
Scenario: My wife called me 10 minutes after she left claiming it (2015 GC Summit), 3.6L) was overheating. I went there and found there was no coolant in the system. I went to the gas station and bought a gallon poured it into the radiator and made it home. After looking at it, it was determined the leak was coming from behind the oil filter somewhere on top of the assembly. I mean it was squirting a stream of coolant ~3/8" from this spot (I saw it myself).
My question, have you ever seen this part acting in this sort of way and before I tear everything apart, I wanted your opinion. I checked it and only coolant (dirty) was piling up. No codes, or anything from either WiTech or CDA except for an overheating scenario. Have your ever seen this before and is it worth it to replace it. Thanks for all your help, it has saved me a lot of $ and time in the past...
Yeah the housing will either leak oil or coolant. The coolant leak can be internal to the oil system or leak externally and that’s where my money is on yours. One of the plastic “port plugs” may have popped out or where the coolant bolts to the housing it might be leaking
@@MotorCityMechanic thank you sir. I see why I studied the electric side. Five years on EVs now and I'll never go back. Excellent knowledge, CDA is a wonderful and powerful tool, if you can get it. You already have a DealerConnect account, so it will do wonders. It blows WiTech out of the water!
@MotorCityMechanic I have replaced the 3.6 oil cooler on my 2016 Town&Country with a aluminum one and now it says 5 psi oil pressure at idle. I replaced the oil pressure sensor with a mopar bc I thought the aftermarket one was no good (it was 4 psi and the oil light would go on). Even have the mopar oil filter. It was 19 psi before I changed it. So no oil light at 5 psi do you think it's good enough? It goes beyond the minimum like over 10 at 1000rpm. Over 20@2000rpm, over 30@3000rpm etc.
This was very helpful thanks! I got given the wrong oil filter from the parts guy (Older style for my 2014). I as suspicious when it looked different to the old one. When I put it in, low oil pressure 0.4 -1.2 Bar. It should be 5.0 Bar plus. Returned to normal as soon as i put the right filter in
Good info, i have the 14 GC and am not a mechanic but love the knowledge you share.
Thanks !
thanks for the kind words, they are much appreciated. thanks for taking the time to watch as well as commenting. make sure to subscribe if you haven't already
MotorCity Mechanic Will you have to remove the manifold to replace the oil pressure sensor
Dean Hamilton Morning Dean.....it depends on the vehicle. The rear wheel drive vehicles will have to have both the upper and lower intake manifolds removed. On the front wheel drivers you may not have to. I know for sure that on the minivans I can get it out with out removing anything. I actually did a video on this for the minivan. I feel pretty good that I should be able to do the same on the other front wheel driver vehicles as well
MotorCity Mechanic I'm sorry I should have specified I'm working on a 2013 Jeep Wrangler JKU.
Dean Hamilton Yeah Dean.....you will need to remove both the upper and lower intakes. If your replacing it.....first make sure someone didn't install the wrong style oil filter cartridge. I have seen this a few times so far without checking the obvious.
with out knowing if this is the real problem I'm so confident I'm just going to order the part
everything you said is what I have been getting the oil over the transmission housing the code
keep up the great videos and you're way of explaining the problems and how to fix them
I feel that will be your cause of the leak. If you have around 100k miles on the vehicle it might be the best time to replace the spark plugs while everything is apart.
Nice video! I've got a 2012 wrangler with the 3.6l. After watching this, I'm pretty sure I need to replace the oil filter housing. I had oil everywhere underneath and on my hood. Thanks!
+Jesse Whaley Double check to make sure nothing like the o-ring on the oil filter cap. Usually the oil will pool up under the intake and run out at back of the engine and down the trans. I cant say I have seen one causing oil on the hood, but anything is possible I'm sure. Tanks for the comment and for taking time to watch this video. Make sure to subscribe as well
Oh my I can't find my spring in the oil canister. Maybe that's why I got po328 (guessing #) I have replaced the oil pressure sensor & cleared the code, but before I saw a few oil leaks & still (when I am oil change) haven't found the spring. Anyway I thank you for explaining & showing (especially about the spring inside the oil canister) I knew I didn't lose it but I couldn't find that darn thing, maybe this caused my engine light to come on. I replaced it, so far no engine light came on. (Driven it 5 miles) Hopefully that is it. Again thank for your time on the UTube. See what happens later as I continued to drive my Chrysler; Town & country.
Excellent informative, in focus, detailed succinct video. Thank you
I am about to investigate an issue that I suspect involves one of the issues you raised
Great video, very informative... on the paper filter theres 4 tabs that lock into the threaded cap. On a premium paper filter there is a piece of plastic hanging between the 4 tabs...does that plastic piece that hanging between tabs sit in the tower on the bypass valve?
Yup, dealing with parts stores they do give ya what their computer tells them the part is. Got an oil filter for my old Ford Fusion, they handed me a 'spin on' type, I needed the 'cartridge', but that's what their computer said!
Thats what we have to deal with. I cant fully blame them but who else can I blame lol.
@@MotorCityMechanic I have a tenancy to look at the parts before I pay, then when I get beside the car, and again when I've got old and new side by side! Went to a store before and ordered a timing chain for my 2000 dodge 5.2lt, kid brought out a dbl roller, I had the original in a rag, SILENT! ''But that's what my computer says!''
Great job brother! Keep on helping us out!
Dunecoones I certainly will. Appreciate the keep be words. Make sure to share the videos and subscribe!
He's truly the best. I've learnt so much (not as a mechanic although my dad was one). I have saved close to 3k just watching his videos. I lovely his succinct dive into all parts and his suggestion on how to deal with the issues. Thanks my man.
Wow, I had no idea it was so complex. I see other people cranking down on it like crazy.
Yeah....thats when things break lol. Thanks for watching Tim. Make sure to subscribe and share the videos
I recently changed my oil for the second time in my 2014 DGC 3.6L. Soon after, I started smelling burning oil and at first thought i had spilled a little oil when refilling it (I didn't, maybe a little when draining it however). The smell got worse and I took a long look all over the engine and found the telltale pools of oil on the transmission. I know what to do now and Id like to replace the unit with a Mopar OEM part. However they are on extreme backorder at the dealership (they have 31 ordered already) and I can't find one online. I purchased the O-ring kit today thinking that I could try this approach. I feel as confident about doing it as I will ever feel (until I actually do it), but I just don't want to put all the work into it and have it not be the O-rings. I had no idea I could damage the unit by over-tightening the filter screw cover either time that I changed the oil, so I could have easily done it and this could be self-inflicted. If it is, could the failure be at the O-rings or is the housing likely cracked? Is there an after market part manufacturer that you could recommend for this part.
I had the same problem with that thing popping out during oil change on my 2011 Charger they do sell that piece at AutoZone in Florida for about $22
Great to hear that the parts are on the shelf! The more people that know about it the better. Thanks for finding this video and for buying the repair kit. Make sure to subscribe
Dorman actually makes a bypass valve replacement now. Save some $$$!.
I know......I got with them and asked them to make it and over time going back and worth.....they agreed and now we have it. Check out the link: ua-cam.com/video/rViwIKhyoR4/v-deo.html
Aw man that's a great video deeply appreciated I was wondering cause my wife has the 2011 journey crew 3.6 I removed her oil and found oil and what seemed like mixer of coolant in that valley range you described she has the new filter like you stated not the spring one I removed her oil rings on the bottom on three of holes there's a small piece broke off on the right side of each of the three holes in the same spot where the oil rings go like someone most likely our mechanic or his helpers accidentally used a screw driver or something to remove the oil rings and might of chipped off those small tiny pieces I removed the oil rings with my thumb fingernail didn't break anything on the other ones when I put back on the oil rings it covers those small spots flush but could it still possibly leak from there even though it seems sealed in with the new oil rings and the oil temp sensor and that other sensor do they need to be wrenched in all the way when I removed my wife's I still see threads on her sensors like they were not tightened all the way or is that the way they go also will I just have to replace the whole oil cooler housing like you mentioned possibly we've had our mechanic replace it three times and try to fix it about at least six times or more since 2014 and he's ASE Certified with his own shop him and his wife we've known and respect for years they do great work also but it seems at times the journey frustrates him with the same problem alot of the times if you can respond when you get a chance I sure would be thankful also I like your channel keep up the great job you do good work thanks
Don’t forget…tighten the oil filer cap at around 18 foot pounds to prevent leaks and cracking the housing.
Thanks alot for this video! Since the oil filter cap relies on the o-ring for sealing and not the threads, would you say perhaps it would be a good idea to simply not tighten the cap down all the way each time you do an oil change to mitigate against overtightening issues and risk breaking the canider?
Great information for sure. If I ever do have an issue, I have and old style unit, if I need to replace it, can I replace it with the newer style unit? to prevent future problems
You can but installing the wrong oil filter would be an easy mistake if you did that...especially if some one else changes the oil in the future....remember.....we dont keep vehicles for ever so eventually someone else will be driving it one day. Personally I would just keep a bypass kit in the glove box just incase. Thnaks for the question. Make sure to subscribe!
Excellent video. I just discovered oil in the V of my 2015 Chrysler 200. Pretty sure I know where it’s coming from now.
I just had one I had to replace yesterday just for this reason. Usually the oil leak level gets high enough that it starts flowing out the rear and on top of the trans. Thanks for watching and make sure to subscribe
I have a friend who is a mechanic who built a cooler that will last a lifetime for $50 and now many Chrysler owners use his product
thanks for the video!!! after changing the complete housing on my pentastar 3.6, my coolent temp is stick to 107-110 degree... please advise...
All I can say is to make sure the sensor on the housing is plugged in completely and make sure all the air is bled out of the coolant system.
I have to drive the van without bypass valve for several days before part come,I suppose the new oil will protect engine fine
Great video. It's gonna help me abit tomorrow when I attempt replacing that oild filter adapter O-RINGS. I got a very small coolant leak from there I believe .
I wish you luck......when it comes to that job I always recommend the assembly. Hate to have to do the job twice if those seals arent the cause. Cheaper yes but might cost you more in time. Thanks for commenting and make sure to subscribe.
I'm in the process of flushing the cooling system, Have you found hat there is a check valve in this cooler. I pulled the pipe going to the cooler and tried to flush it with a garden hose and it is not taking any pressure. Its a 2011 Chrysler 200 that recently overheated and my g/f shut the car down but I have discovered that the coolant is sludgy and brown, I don't believe it was ever flushed or changed. But I did the heater core and that was ok, but this has me stumped.
Thanks bud!
I dont know of any check valve. Seems odd unless its clogged.
@@MotorCityMechanic have you found these to crack internally? I flushed the block and I still managed to lose 1qt of oil into the coolant system yesterday while idling and trying to run flush through the car. There is still no mixing of coolant into the oil. The car idles fine, but looses 2psi of pressure on a pressure test. It was overheated and run out of coolant, but I believe the GF only had it running for a mins after the low coolant light turned on. I'm kinda puzzled, I looked at your other video about doing a head gasket and I find it hard to believe that this car lifted the head since it idles smooth as butter and doesn't show signs of compression. Thanks for your help sir.
👍very detailed. Good stuff
Many thanks!
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Yesterday a rookie guy from JiffyLube At Memphis did an oil change and all the sudden about 200 miles later I was replacing my light bulb and there was tons of oil in my coolant reservoir. I saw him having hard time replaying the filter.. I honestly believe he broke something when closing it up I saw him flipping the filter couple times to make it sit. I have 2016 Ram Promaster.
I havent seen the wrong filter cause the coolant and oil to mix. The only thing that usually causes that is a failure oil cooler. If an oil changer screws anything up it will usually cause an oil leak or check engine light. Based on the oil in the coolant......I dont feel they caused it. Thats just my opinion. Where is located.....they cant get access to it do any damage....it would be an internal failure. Doesnt mean that they didnt install the wrong filter but just not coolant related.
MotorCity Mechanic thank you man.. now the oil is getting more in the reservoir. It’s definitely the engine oil not anything else I had to add more engine oil to the engine. I am in Canada now driving all the way to Minnesota (home) do you think it’s safe to drive
I will update you what they find btw
@@showmequick2245 I would keep an eye on it.....its not a good situation but you have to do what you have to do. In a perfect world I would say tow it and have it fixed but thats not always possible. Take it easy and keep checking the oil level and your coolant temp.
I was wandering from where the engine is getting some oil stains. I have 115000 miles and this is the first time that I change oil on it, it was always done at the dealership. I found the plastic cover cracked and slightly loose and there is no pressure valve in at all.
I wander how long it has been that way.
Thank you for your great advice.
great video, it has helped me a lot on 13 wrangler. Do you have any videos of phaser replacement on 3.6 pentastar?
I did a video on the 3.6 left side head removal....it goes over that phaser removal when removing the head. Feel free to check it out to see if it gives you the needed info.....now the right side is a bit different so keep that in mind, requires a different special tool for taking tension off the chain. Here is the link: ua-cam.com/video/OG4-IKSwzFk/v-deo.html
MotorCity Mechanic that's exactly what I needed. Thanks again. quick question though. Have you ever had a tensioner causing a camshaft sensor intermittent bank 1 sensor 2
Your welcome. I havent had a tensioner fail or cause an issue yet.
Man this dude is a badass..
Thank you for video, has the same problem with this piece of plastic in oil adapter. So the reason to solve it to change filter for new design and not need this broken plastic piece!?
I like techs like you. You know your shit
Eric O of South Main Auto sent me here.
Awesome guy! Much respect for him and I don’t feel worthy. Thanks for finding my channel and don’t forget to subscribe
@@MotorCityMechanic I did subscribe, and I think with today's SMA video, your subscriber count is going to rise RAPIDLY!
Great video and helped me solve part of my problem. I have a 2012 JK Wrangler. In the process of changing the oil I removed the filter, when I turned to get the new filter off my bench, I heard something "crash". The entire center assembly of the oil filter housing had "shot out". Not just the oil pressure bypass switch, but the entire center "cage" thing. At the base was a large spring, so I put it back into the housing and everything seemed to fit together. I then found your video and realized that the pressure bypass switch had disappeared, I'm not sure where it ended up in my garage. I purchased the Dorman replacement, and put everything back together. The only unknown now is whether or not the center part of the housing is working properly. Is it supposed to be able to come out?
Morning, the center portion should not come out. When it does you cant reinstall it correctly. There is some sort of locking mechanism that keeps it in place and when it lets go.....you wont be able to reset it. I have cut one apart once trying to see if I could and had no luck. Not sure what affect it will have as it sits.....in a perfect world I would say replace the oil filter housing/cooler to be on the safe side. Everytime I take one of these older oil filter caps off I step back and wonder if it will spit something out...typically that bypass valve. Thanks for asking and make sure to subscribe.
Man. That center pole or whatever its called fell out on me too. I had no idea where that large spring is supposed to go.
So it sits at the base huh? I thought i was able to resit the pole back in by screwing it in but I guess I was just fooling myself.
That's a confirmed fix .. real informative
Your welcome and thanks for commenting.
Very Good and informative video for anyone looking into putting one of these units on .
+RRH54 Thank you for the comment. Glad the video was helpful. Don't forget to subscribe
Thank you. Good explanation, very clear. Good help
what would happen if that small plastic piece (lil piece holding spring on tower) falls in to the hole?
+OMGodfrey That's really a good question. Do you start taking items off the engine to try to locate such as drop the oil pan to see if it can be found? In a perfect world yes. I haven't seen one broke when it came in already. The ones I see break a second or two after I remove the oil filter cap. I then am able to get all the pieces out. In theory with it being plastic and as small as the piece may be.....the oil pump screen will stop it if it makes it to the oil pan. If you know for sure that the piece fell down the hole then dropping the pan wouldn't be a bad next step to see if it can be located.
Finding your page has helped me learn a lot about my 2012 charger v6... thanks for your help!
Lately I have been getting p06dd code and my car would not accelerate after hitting around 3000 rpm. I had recently got my oil changed at dodge dealership checked the filter and it is right. Cleared the code and erase the code it comes back on eventually but the oil psi shows around 40 psi under normal driving temp drops down to as low as 16 at idle when warm. I did notice oil at bottom of filter housing. Should I replace the oil filter housing or the oil pump or both? Again thanks for sharing your knowledge of these Mopar cars