Plus all 8 bit, all 16 bit and even some 32 bit systems. For me it's a tie with ps vita, because the n3ds natively runs DS games but ps vita support for ps1 games is much better (pretty much 100%) + psp. For me it all depends on the mood of the day, at least until the Switch is finally cracked for good.
I had to settle for the original 3DS XL but I got it with a non-working game slot at a pawn shop for $30 so...it was a steal since I didn’t plan on using the game slot anyway
I snagged a like new 3DS LL(older version not "new") for $60 that arrives in a few days. So this video came at a perfect time. Thanks for the great content.
It makes no sense that the 3DS systems are region-locked when even older Nintendo handhelds were region-free out of the box like the Game Boy, Game Boy Color, Game Boy Advance and the DS.
IT makes sense. They are fighting the global selling of used games around the World. What they sell in Europe stays in Europe. What they sell in USA stays in USA. That’s how they can make some more extra profit out of it.
This is the console that I've been using for homebrew recently. I've had it since launch, though for those buying I'd say beware of some of the issues with this 3ds. I love this console but both me and several others have had the battery become inflated and unusable after use, though you can easily replace it with another 3ds battery. The paint also seems to peel off very easily after using it for a bit. I don't know if later models fix this. Also, be careful taking the back cover off, you can break it very easily if you're too rough. But if you do you won't have to worry about taking the cover off again I guess ;)
I just found my 3DS this week and I've spent the day working on this very thing - jailbreaking and checking out what I can do with it now. So happy to see this amazing handheld have such a strong homebrew scene.
Man I remember when I first installed CFW on my 3DS, back then the process was incredibly difficult and it involved flashing an incredibly old firmware for a bit to allow for an exploit. It took like 5-6 hours to fully install CFW and any little mistake would brick the 3DS and be completely unrecoverable. Pretty amazing to see it brought down to 5 mins!
it was surreal having to downgrade your 3ds to ver 2. something as part of the process, it was my first 3ds mod as well and always stuck with me because of this. I was so shook seeing that it now uses a web exlpoit!!
I must say, I do appreciate how you and some other UA-camrs qualify their videos with "in 2021" in an effort to make sure if someone finds the video in a few years and things have changed, they don't come complaining to the comments.
@@NintenDub I don’t follow. My comment was that sometimes these exploits change. If in 2024, the hack here no longer works, MVG is hedging their bets that someone trying it will hear “2021” and understand that things might have changed.
I bought a new Pearl White LL about a year ago and looked through the guide to change regions on it. At the time, the guide suggested opening it up, soldering wires to the pads around the internal flash chip, and using a specific SD card reader to write a new flash image. I decided to shelve it until I could get around to designing a flat flex PCB that would slip through the external SD card slot. It has been sitting, disassembled, on my shelf since. This looks easier. Think I’ll just do this.
Was that really a 3ds? That sounds extremely similar to the DSi region switching method, and I have never heard of it being used on a 3ds family console
.CIA was not a joke as it stands for CTR Importable Archive. The FBI program is to install .CIA files, so I doubt that was a coincidence but an intentional joke, but the original .CIA file names actually have a meaning.
Dependa on it, the switch and 3ds file formats are comming partially from nintendos sdk, partially from the community. .3ds was .csu in the sdk, if I remeber it correctly, while .cia, xci and nsp are all from nintendos official sdks for the 3ds and switch.
I am so happy to own one of these! I was able to gather all my games from the Gameboy, Gameboy Color, Gameboy Advance, Nintendo DS/DSi and Nintendo 3DS (and besides that, Super Nintendo, Genesis, Master System, Game Gear etc.) into one single quality built portable system. Sure, I love my switch for modern games, but the compactness of the 3DS, low power consumption (4-12 hour on 1750mah battery) and the ease of use is really hard to beat. I really love this thing!
@@mmpsp693 Yes and no. Old 3DS XL has excellent TN panels. New 3DS XL has terrible ones but there are the few models with IPS that are great. Between my DSi XL and my Old 3DS XL, I'd say they're pretty close in terms of color, brightness, and sharpness.
@@mmpsp693 well, in my childhood, I could choose between the original GameBoy and the Game Gear. Trust me, these screens are fine. 😉 I have very little issue with the New 3DS XL screen. The New 2DS XL however, actually have substantial smearing. which is very apparent on NES-like games (bright colors and sharp contrast edges with smooth scrolling)
@@mmpsp693 I definitely agree with the scaling. it's a shame. But I rather take the 3DS due to the extensive high quality 3DS library of games. GBA had a lot of low res ports with washed out colors, which can often be found on the Virtual Console (with injection). and although the DS had a lot of good games. I don't come back to those as easily today. I'd rather play the native Mario 64 port for 3DS. Mario Kart 7, Mario 3D Land etc. Browser's inside story was re-released for the 3DS as well. The DS was amazing at its time. But Nintendo quickly outshined that format with the 3DS. (For GBA games you can actually play in native resolution and on the XL and the screen size is the same as the original hardware... but I rather take the scaling and larger picture) there's a massive benefit of having all games collect ed on one machine.
@@zayfear6763 Yeah I managed to get it working but I didn't use this video guide since I'm pretty sure it's outdated. If I were you I'd go to a site called 3DS Hacks Guide since that site is always up to date and tells you how to mod your 3DS in the most simplest way possible. Good luck in advance if you try it out!
The only downside of the 3ds family always was region lock, really glad that in 2021 this isn't a problem anymore, also its more easier to do now than before and i didn't knew that, i hope to see more homebrew videos of different consoles :d
Without a doubt one of the best purchases possible today. I missed the wave of the 3DS initially but grabbed and modded one last August. The game library is literally amazing. The home brew scene is full of great content that makes the console even better that’s made by some very talented people. Overall, this console rocks! Great video as usual
I homebrewed my new 3DS xl when soundhax was still a thing, I remember being so scared of bricking but it's one of the best decisions I've ever made, I still use it more than the Wii U I got and homebrewed last year. Thank you for pointing people to the written guides. There are so many people who have bricked their devices following an old video guide that became outdated in weeks.
Man, I still don't see why you don't have 1mil subscribers yet. Some of your vids have been priceless resources to me when it comes to modding ideas, greatly appreciated.
The thing is as a Japanese, everyone here who has at least junior highschool english knowledge knows What XL mean... we never understand what the hell is LL means lol
Thank you so much for explaining this mod, it’s fascinating how the homebrew scene evolves quickly, After watching this i got the same 3ds LL and it works great, indeed a new world with plenty of functionalities. Cheers!
Thank you, because I absolutely refused to buy the digital version of games that I owe physically, but I've always wanted the convenience of never swapping carts again.
i kinda want to get a 3ds now, ive had about 4 of them and ended up getting rid of them....now ive had a switch for about 3 weeks and im starting to miss the whole ds library. Dont get me wrong the switch is awesome but some of those pokemon games are unbeatable
@@brodown64 it's the installation of backed up .CIA files that usually gets take downs IIRC, but I haven't been in the 3ds hacking scene for two years so idk
It took me a few hours with the new method because I was constantly getting confused But at least now I have a hacked 3DS that works and has some cool things on it
i modded my 2ds recently, with browser exploits i was literally done within 30 minutes, having no console hacking experience before. it seems so much easier now than it was long ago
You make me jealous. I started playing backups back in the mid-90's and was always upset with the lack of quality and never knew or understood what was needed to make an enjoyable experience possible. Love what you do on da tube and keep it as real as possible!
I already have 1 N3DS (the small one, my favorite), a new 2DS XL, and an old 3DS. All modded. The homebrew scene is amazing and I think it'll be fine for many years to come. If you are on the verge of getting one, do it. Totally recommended.
Agree: I recently got one (New 3DSXL) thinking "I'll mod it later", then I read that there's also Retroarch with PS1 emulation and never I was so fast at modding something. =) Fun fact: I only tried a bit PS1 emulator and I'm using all the rest thanks to the mod.
It makes me glad that there are still people who appreciate the 3ds, I always keep a modded 3ds on me because its a monster hand held gaming device xD Not to mention you only showed gaming advantages, there is alooooot more that the 3ds is capable of, from simple things like very detailed customizations on the homescreen, to file management from any device on your network, it really only keeps getting more amazing the more devs work on them!
What the heck I bought a Japanese 3DS (non LL) literally a few days ago and then realized you uploaded this! Love your channel, and can’t believe you uploaded exactly what I needed!
always wondered why nintendo never ported them lol emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Virtual_Boy_emulators we have some emulators tho... one of those "might" get a 3ds port
There is one: github.com/mrdanielps/r3Ddragon It actually does output 3D, but the speed and compatibility are really bad, unfortunately. For some reason, the development of it was abandoned in 2015, which is a pity, because there is no better suited screen to run VitrualBoy games, on any system in existence, than the one on a 3DS - it has the right resolution, does not require glasses and will not strain your eyes as much as the red diode arrays on the VirtualBoy would.
@@AGTS10k Does that do 3D? I remember downloading that one and it didn't do 3D, and it would bug out like crazy just trying to play Mario Tennis. It's like pre-pre-pre-alpha stage, a bit unusable.
@@amihartz Yep, it does. And yeah, it is very pre-alpha. I tried loading up the Mario Tennis rom just now, and it crashed the emu :) Some things, such as Galactic Pinball, for example, run kinda fine, but very slow, and you can actually see the 3D effect very well.
I got the same model and color about a year ago, the 3DS scene is awesome and continues to grow. I however, chose to do a region change for convenience's sake.
i really would like it if you to continue to make these videos, even if they become obsolete at some point they're still so fun and informative to watch.
Truth be told this is why I subscribed. Had a 3DS XL for a few years now. Very nice little system and of course it also occurred to me all these 'extra' things that may be possible. Of course I never got around to any of that and those pesky little concerns like bricking the thing and all in all this being a fairly 'naughty' business as far as the world is concerned meant I never gave it that much thought. When I found this channel though it reminded me such things were possible and honestly I was waiting for this video. I was fairly sure it wouldn't be that difficult at this point but the way you relate everything is very encouraging and I appreciate you taking the time to do so for us all. Many cheers my man.
actually the 2ds xl does not in fact run the same games as the model in this video, the New 2ds xl however does, games that don't run on "old" systems but do run on "new" systems include Minecraft, SNES Virtual Console games, Binding of Isaac: Rebirth and Xenoblade Chronicles, and there are many games, such as Super Smash Bros. 3ds and Pokemon USUM, run better on the "new" systems
Thanks for revisiting this topic. The mod looks so easy to do now, I may do it to one of my 3DS systems. I really dig the idea of being able to rip my carts to the SD card.
I didn't think I could learn anything new about the scene since I have had my 3DS cracked since the days you had to crack a DS flash card to do it, but you, again, have taught me oh so much.
Man, Is because of you that last year I bought a 2DS and modded it. A few days ago I watched you DSi XL video and I decided to Buy one and Mod it as well. Those two consoles are Awesome! Thank you for everything, you are a hero.
@@Matanumi They don't care enough to do something good but they do care in terms of IP... they did the last update in December essentially to hit the millions of 3ds with homebrew. The company even mentioned it in a press conference here in Japan.
3:07 -- That video last year is what motivated me to buy a 2DS XL. I tell you, there are ZERO regrets. The variety and amount of games I have on mine is just ridiculous!
The 3DS is nice (I had the New 3DS XL then 'downgraded' to the standard New 3DS as I liked the size more) but I still think the DS Lite, paired with a flash cart, remains the best in the series.
i did this a few weeks ago following this guide you recommended and its so easy I cant believe how easy it is honestly now i modded my OG 3ds a few years back and almost bricked it a few times along the way people are so dedicated i love it
I'm currently installing homebrew on my 3ds xl. I bought it two years ago but I haven't played it yet! Can't wait to download a bunch of roms and experience it for the first time!
It’s genuinely shocking how easy it is these days! I used a 256GB card, knowing I’d stock it full. I have over a hundred 3DS, DS, GBA, titles and even 6 PS1 titles. Games took up about 120GB, and I have about 40 movies on it now. Even the movies hold tight at 30FPS the entire time! Those 40 movies are in .4MPEG (resolution scaled to 800x480) & they have only taken about 15GB’s. Lots & lots of room left for dozens & dozens of movies or games. I’ve never had a handheld like this one before and it is one of my most highly treasured possessions, period.
One thing not covered in this video is that many multi-region games will default to japanese and it may be difficult to switch them to english. Changing the device's region helps some, as does using luma locale switcher, though some games still launch in japanese in my experience. One example is Pokemon Y.
Yep! I remember someone commenting on another video mentioning that they were able to play "Animal Crossing: New Leaf" in English but then the seasonal events would be the Japanese events complete with Japanese dialogue.
Indeed they do. I recently modded my 2ds xl last week and hate the ds emulator so much I am going to buy an r4i gold cart for that. They are dirt cheap at this point and the gold version doesn't have the "timebomb" on them.
This video has odd timing. I just started home brewing on my old 2ds system and have been looking into upgrading to a new 3ds. Being late to the game has sucked since everyone is price gouging the US models. I entered to win this one but if I don’t at least I know I can get a LL and still play my games. Thanks.
I just stayed up too late last night modding out my Dragon Quest n2DS LL. This or a Vita makes the ultimate portable machine nowadays. The 2 emulators I’d suggest looking at are mGBA and Virtual Boy. mGBA has save state and such for GBA rather then the real hardware of the VC injections that is barebones. Most games I’ve played other than Monkey Ball Jr have run fine on the ‘new’ model. Virtual Boy has real stereoscopic 3D and is supposed to run full speed on the ‘new models for Warioland VB and Jack Bros.14
"Since september, the entire 3DS family has been discontinued" wait what...? This is breaking news to me, are they ditching literally all of their entire gaming lineup for just the switch??
Yes the DS family has been officially discontinued, the last console being the New 2DS XL, and they are only focussing on Switch now. As far as i know, there's no looking that Nintendo will bring them back. Unless Nintendo puts in effort to move the digital DS games to Switch, the only way of playing them is with the actual DS consoles (eShop is still up and running and for some reason even tho the consoles have been discontinued, the digital copies of the games are still ridiculously high priced) or through emulators. I only heard the news a few months ago and decided to invest in a second hand New 2DS XL. If you don't own a 3DS yet, i advice looking into buying one soon since it's off the market and people are Nintendo Nostalgic after last year. It's a wonderful little console and though the games are incredibly expensive, i'm happy to be able to finally own one. The Switch looks nice and all, but almost everyone agrees the DS family had much more to offer, and had a lot more personality. Quite a shame
@@coolbeans5911 very grim I say. the DS family has something special unlike the boring tablet slab of the switch. the DS is very unique compared to other consoles or handheld for that matter. there are no emulators on earth that is capable of emulating the gaming experience coming from the DS.. it's sad man. it's a dark age as a Nintendo fans. no more innovation being brought to the table.
@@miru2583 agreed, the worst part is that apparently Nintendo has announced that the 3DS eShop won't have credit card support anymore by January 2022 (as far as i understand, that means you won't be able to digitally buy any DS family games on your own console) This is so frustrating because physical copies are incredibly expensive now and quite hard to come by, and it completely excludes players who recently started their 3DS journey and still want to build their game library (like come on it's SO expensive; i can't afford the most popular games and i was hoping the eShop will still be open for atleast 2years so i could save up for games like Pokemon Sun&Moon, Layton, Mario kart 7, Super Smash etc etc) Nintendo is just so stupidly disconnected from their fans, incredibly infuriating
@@coolbeans5911 yes. data miner found an evidence in firmware 11.15 that they will eshop credit card payment. it's the last firmware update for the 3ds. most seller jacked up their prices after the news and the 3ds became a collectors items. your money won't go to the dev if you buy physical copy now. the only way to avoid being ripped off is by modding it. I wish they brought back the DS family or at least made a true successor to it. feels sad af
Great introduction video! I just finished homebrewing my new 3DSXL and I highly recommend following the 3ds hacks site guide mentioned in the video description as thouroughly as possible.
The one downside to no switching the region is that while yes you can still play out of region games you can't play online on official servers if you want to play multiplayer. You have to do the convoluted method. Though its moot now because Nintendo is shutting down its servers in April.
@@waifubreaks1572 I believe walmart was selling the 2DS XL for $100 summer of last year. Inventory sold quickly and now you can only get them through 3rd Party sellers for about $30 over the asking MSRP.
Funny how I got a New 3DS XL (the animal crossing happy home designer special edition) about 3 days ago to finally upgrade my ancient old 3DS I got back in 2011 for Christmas. and now you upload this!! Thank you! :)
This got me thinking of a fun project, how large would an SD card need to be to hold *all* new 3ds games ever released ? And what would this number be for NDS games ? Asking for a friend of course.
I don't have all of the 3DS games installed, but with 128GB i managed to cram everything 3DS that mattered to me, every NDS rom and everything from GB, GBC, NES, SMS, GEN. GBA and SNES only have a few select games too. Im sure with 256GB you would likely have enough for every game or close to every game on the 3DS library. Also in case the cops are watching: Im rich and have every single cartridge for every single system mentioned above, 100% true! no lie! :^)
I have been wanting to get into homebrew on my 3ds systems for years and bricked two in the past, and I soon as I saw this upload from I jumped right to it. All I can say is thank you my goodness what an awesome system made even better
@ a lady was selling her wii and a 2011 3ds. i didnt know how much a 3ds costed to i haggled it down from 50 dirhams (AED) to 25 (AED) which is round 6-8 dollars
When you buy one of these, keep a look out for ones with IPS screens. Nintendo pulled some bullshit so most N3DSXL consoles come with poor looking TN panel screens, and some with better looking IPS screens, or a mix of both.
@@KopperNeoman It's true I believe, that IPS screens usually have a tiny but more input lag than TN, but I never noticed it on 3DS. For 3DS at least, I think it's more important you have a clear picture from all viewing angles.
2023 Update here: Just got a Japanese New 2DS XL and did a region change and although yes, the eShop is unavailable to me, the hShop does make up for it. But that depends on your view on being a pirate…. Either way, homebrewing the 2/3DS is absolutely worth it
Thanks for sharing this - I already own a launch 3DS but it's...tiny. And I generally prefer tiny games, but the spec bump in the new models is enticing. And now with the eShop going down, there's really no risk anymore. Out of curiosity, was there anyway to change the system menu to english while it was still in the Japanese region?
Nice - Great video. I picked up a 3DS XL (for myself), 2DS XL (for the wife) and a 2DS wedge style (for my daughter) back in 2019 and I homebrewed all three of them.... an easy process for sure.
it's really cool to have nintendo's entire handheld history playable on one system.
AND it's portable
except switch lol
Plus all 8 bit, all 16 bit and even some 32 bit systems.
For me it's a tie with ps vita, because the n3ds natively runs DS games but ps vita support for ps1 games is much better (pretty much 100%) + psp. For me it all depends on the mood of the day, at least until the Switch is finally cracked for good.
I had to settle for the original 3DS XL but I got it with a non-working game slot at a pawn shop for $30 so...it was a steal since I didn’t plan on using the game slot anyway
I would love to play GBA games on this like in back, old days.
I snagged a like new 3DS LL(older version not "new") for $60 that arrives in a few days. So this video came at a perfect time. Thanks for the great content.
I like your videos.
Nice, i was going to get old 3ds but i saw a new 3ds xl on ebay for 20euros with a black spot on the screen, best deal ever
Tip order at least a 32 gb micro sd
I also got a 3DS XL from Quebec for around $60.
Curious, where did you a find a brand new 3DS LL for cheap?
It makes no sense that the 3DS systems are region-locked when even older Nintendo handhelds were region-free out of the box like the Game Boy, Game Boy Color, Game Boy Advance and the DS.
Being able to use 'nintendo' and 'makes sense' in one sentence is getting more and more difficult each year
I hear somebody say this somewhere, " Nintendo knows how to make games but they dont know how to run a company"
It had to do with game prices in nippon land iirc.
IT makes sense. They are fighting the global selling of used games around the World. What they sell in Europe stays in Europe. What they sell in USA stays in USA. That’s how they can make some more extra profit out of it.
@@letusplay2296 It had a major impact on me because all my games were imported
This is the console that I've been using for homebrew recently. I've had it since launch, though for those buying I'd say beware of some of the issues with this 3ds. I love this console but both me and several others have had the battery become inflated and unusable after use, though you can easily replace it with another 3ds battery. The paint also seems to peel off very easily after using it for a bit. I don't know if later models fix this. Also, be careful taking the back cover off, you can break it very easily if you're too rough. But if you do you won't have to worry about taking the cover off again I guess ;)
I just found my 3DS this week and I've spent the day working on this very thing - jailbreaking and checking out what I can do with it now. So happy to see this amazing handheld have such a strong homebrew scene.
Man I remember when I first installed CFW on my 3DS, back then the process was incredibly difficult and it involved flashing an incredibly old firmware for a bit to allow for an exploit. It took like 5-6 hours to fully install CFW and any little mistake would brick the 3DS and be completely unrecoverable. Pretty amazing to see it brought down to 5 mins!
Installing A9LH made me feel like such a "hacker" lol.
remember gateway?
A9LH kinda sucked tbh....3ds has come a long way since
Not even 5 minutes, the longest part is copying the files over the sd card. The hacking part is about 30 seconds tops ^^
it was surreal having to downgrade your 3ds to ver 2. something as part of the process, it was my first 3ds mod as well and always stuck with me because of this. I was so shook seeing that it now uses a web exlpoit!!
I must say, I do appreciate how you and some other UA-camrs qualify their videos with "in 2021" in an effort to make sure if someone finds the video in a few years and things have changed, they don't come complaining to the comments.
ok and
@@oilcans nice try
Not true. Cuz next year,and the next,and the next, they just change the year so you'll still click on it
@@NintenDub I don’t follow. My comment was that sometimes these exploits change. If in 2024, the hack here no longer works, MVG is hedging their bets that someone trying it will hear “2021” and understand that things might have changed.
I bought a japanese standard 3ds for an equivalent of 30 dollars on ebay and changed the region to PAL. Probably the best value gaming system
When you change it to pal can you change the menu language aswell?
woah. That's a thing?? Would you buy a to buy a japanese 3ds and change it to NTSC too through modding?
With the PAL firmware does the eshop/multiplayer still works?
Living in Japan I used and repaired the LL (dozens now) for years. I loved to see one in the video! Thanks!
I bought a new Pearl White LL about a year ago and looked through the guide to change regions on it. At the time, the guide suggested opening it up, soldering wires to the pads around the internal flash chip, and using a specific SD card reader to write a new flash image. I decided to shelve it until I could get around to designing a flat flex PCB that would slip through the external SD card slot. It has been sitting, disassembled, on my shelf since.
This looks easier. Think I’ll just do this.
How did it go? I’m thinking about doing the same
You Could Have Just Swapped The JPN Motherboard For A NA Reigon One.
It's What I Do
Was that really a 3ds? That sounds extremely similar to the DSi region switching method, and I have never heard of it being used on a 3ds family console
*Run "FBI" to Install "CIA" files*
Lmao, I wonder if that was intentional or a superb coincidence.
.CIA was not a joke as it stands for CTR Importable Archive. The FBI program is to install .CIA files, so I doubt that was a coincidence but an intentional joke, but the original .CIA file names actually have a meaning.
@@amihartz That's cool but wait... who usually determines these file names, is it Nintendo or the Homebrew community?
Dependa on it, the switch and 3ds file formats are comming partially from nintendos sdk, partially from the community. .3ds was .csu in the sdk, if I remeber it correctly, while .cia, xci and nsp are all from nintendos official sdks for the 3ds and switch.
@@amihartz Terry A. Davis is probably rolling in his grave because of it.
@@lucmakelele Nintendo
I am so happy to own one of these! I was able to gather all my games from the Gameboy, Gameboy Color, Gameboy Advance, Nintendo DS/DSi and Nintendo 3DS (and besides that, Super Nintendo, Genesis, Master System, Game Gear etc.) into one single quality built portable system. Sure, I love my switch for modern games, but the compactness of the 3DS, low power consumption (4-12 hour on 1750mah battery) and the ease of use is really hard to beat. I really love this thing!
The issue with the 3ds family is the screen quality
The DSI XL has much better screens.
@@mmpsp693 Yes and no. Old 3DS XL has excellent TN panels. New 3DS XL has terrible ones but there are the few models with IPS that are great. Between my DSi XL and my Old 3DS XL, I'd say they're pretty close in terms of color, brightness, and sharpness.
@@punchrockgroin5597 yeah but there's also the bad scaling, so I much prefer the dsi
@@mmpsp693 well, in my childhood, I could choose between the original GameBoy and the Game Gear. Trust me, these screens are fine. 😉 I have very little issue with the New 3DS XL screen. The New 2DS XL however, actually have substantial smearing. which is very apparent on NES-like games (bright colors and sharp contrast edges with smooth scrolling)
@@mmpsp693 I definitely agree with the scaling. it's a shame. But I rather take the 3DS due to the extensive high quality 3DS library of games. GBA had a lot of low res ports with washed out colors, which can often be found on the Virtual Console (with injection). and although the DS had a lot of good games. I don't come back to those as easily today. I'd rather play the native Mario 64 port for 3DS. Mario Kart 7, Mario 3D Land etc. Browser's inside story was re-released for the 3DS as well. The DS was amazing at its time. But Nintendo quickly outshined that format with the 3DS. (For GBA games you can actually play in native resolution and on the XL and the screen size is the same as the original hardware... but I rather take the scaling and larger picture) there's a massive benefit of having all games collect ed on one machine.
"Homebrew on a $5 broken 2DS"
"HOMEBREW BEAST"
Mistakes were made
i hate when he uses HOMEBREW BEAST for everything
@@ari_woof Why? Every console he's described as that is accurate
@@ari_woof well, they are really a homebrew beast tho. You can hack it and install homebrew in it. Unlike back in 2011
@o but not as good as today, I actually bought it back in 2011. and homebew do exist, but they are complicated
That is very cool to see, the 3DS has so many features beyond its past iterations could handle.
“These guides tend to become obsolete about 6 months after they come out”
Me watching this video 7 months later
And it is indeed obsolete
me reading this comment 7 months later
Me watching this video 16 months later
@@PhoenixWrightAceAttorney did it work for you ?
@@zayfear6763 Yeah I managed to get it working but I didn't use this video guide since I'm pretty sure it's outdated. If I were you I'd go to a site called 3DS Hacks Guide since that site is always up to date and tells you how to mod your 3DS in the most simplest way possible. Good luck in advance if you try it out!
Contest has ended. thank you
lets hope i win
@@dermott6645 you won't
Thanks for this mate!, fingers crossed.
Is there any benefit to using a LL for this over XL? I would assume the price is lower but you'd have to import it, no? That would cost a lot in turn.
Done
The only downside of the 3ds family always was region lock, really glad that in 2021 this isn't a problem anymore, also its more easier to do now than before and i didn't knew that, i hope to see more homebrew videos of different consoles :d
Without a doubt one of the best purchases possible today. I missed the wave of the 3DS initially but grabbed and modded one last August. The game library is literally amazing. The home brew scene is full of great content that makes the console even better that’s made by some very talented people. Overall, this console rocks! Great video as usual
While I'm a bit reluctant to mod my old 3DS, being able to play GBA games on it is tempting. Excellent video as always, MVG.
It’s really easy now. This is the best and easiest console to hack, imo. You can have access to the whole 3ds library now that the eshop is shut down.
Buy another one, even a 2ds
I know I'm 2 years late, but for those tempted to mod their 3ds, you won't lose anything on your old 3ds
@@sprshb1852the real question is, does it look good?
Because the stretching kinda makes them look terrible imo
I homebrewed my new 3DS xl when soundhax was still a thing, I remember being so scared of bricking but it's one of the best decisions I've ever made, I still use it more than the Wii U I got and homebrewed last year. Thank you for pointing people to the written guides. There are so many people who have bricked their devices following an old video guide that became outdated in weeks.
Ah man. Spotted this right before I went to bed. Time to stay up a bit longer!
Same
@Robert Arias time zones
MISTAKES WERE MADE
Bruh i live in europe and its 14:22😂😂
It's 7:40 for me
Man, I still don't see why you don't have 1mil subscribers yet. Some of your vids have been priceless resources to me when it comes to modding ideas, greatly appreciated.
The thing is as a Japanese, everyone here who has at least junior highschool english knowledge knows What XL mean... we never understand what the hell is LL means lol
日本語でＬＬは何ですか。Large Large?
Lubed Lugs
when i saw LL i thought LARGE LARGE
@@tabbyarts3670 Yeah it must be
might be little large
I wish someone would pick up where red dragon left off and make a virtual boy emulator, the 3ds is the perfect system for emulating virtual boy
Bro could you imagine seeing that eye blinding red IN 3D???
Siiiickkk
There's one for Android now your welcome
There is one now
@@MrLordpistoia yeah but android doesn't have a 3d screen, that's what he meant when he said the 3ds was perfect for that
@@retrofizz727 you
Thank you so much for explaining this mod, it’s fascinating how the homebrew scene evolves quickly, After watching this i got the same 3ds LL and it works great, indeed a new world with plenty of functionalities. Cheers!
Why the LL and not the new 3ds xl?
@@matt25675 they're the same, the only difference being that one is the japanese version.
Having already modded my 3DS and seeing all this same stuff from MVG makes me feel so vindicated in my work 😁✌🏻
I love how the system feels, its so good, and that screen is just amazing, especially with retro games.
Thank you, because I absolutely refused to buy the digital version of games that I owe physically, but I've always wanted the convenience of never swapping carts again.
Your cartridge port thanks you very much!
Man, miss my old 3ds for all this stuff, tons of hours playing there nes, snes, gba, and specially gbc games. All the ports are really impressive.
I modded my 2DS last week. Since we're locked down again here in the UK I made it one of my lockdown projects
i kinda want to get a 3ds now, ive had about 4 of them and ended up getting rid of them....now ive had a switch for about 3 weeks and im starting to miss the whole ds library. Dont get me wrong the switch is awesome but some of those pokemon games are unbeatable
If you want to get one cheap, check often on Facebook Marketplace. Found my New 2DS XL for 80$ on there, and it came with Minecraft too
MVG: "Homebrew", "Nintendo 3DS"
Me: Drop everything and watch the video before Nintendo deletes it 😁
MISTAKES WERE MADE
Yeah I doubt this video makes it 24hr. It's great and informational, which is why ninnie gonna kill it.
sorry to kill the joke but as far as I know Nintendo hasn't deleted any videos that talk about homebrew 3ds's
@@brodown64 it's the installation of backed up .CIA files that usually gets take downs IIRC, but I haven't been in the 3ds hacking scene for two years so idk
Pov u where holding a baby and all of the family savings from 6 years
5 minutes? Damn I modded my new 3ds like 3 years ago and it took like 5 hours 😆
It took me a few hours with the new method because I was constantly getting confused
But at least now I have a hacked 3DS that works and has some cool things on it
A9LH things with firmware downgrades for our otp bin dump 🙂
i modded my 2ds recently, with browser exploits i was literally done within 30 minutes, having no console hacking experience before. it seems so much easier now than it was long ago
Yeah, it was a lot harder back then.
Takes around 30 minutes or less with 3ds.hacks.guide site. The only site people should be using.
I always enjoy the 3DS homebrew love on this channel. It makes for such a good retro gaming handheld for it's price nowadays.
You make me jealous.
I started playing backups back in the mid-90's and was always upset with the lack of quality and never knew or understood what was needed to make an enjoyable experience possible.
Love what you do on da tube and keep it as real as possible!
I already have 1 N3DS (the small one, my favorite), a new 2DS XL, and an old 3DS. All modded. The homebrew scene is amazing and I think it'll be fine for many years to come. If you are on the verge of getting one, do it. Totally recommended.
Agree: I recently got one (New 3DSXL) thinking "I'll mod it later", then I read that there's also Retroarch with PS1 emulation and never I was so fast at modding something. =)
Fun fact: I only tried a bit PS1 emulator and I'm using all the rest thanks to the mod.
It makes me glad that there are still people who appreciate the 3ds, I always keep a modded 3ds on me because its a monster hand held gaming device xD
Not to mention you only showed gaming advantages, there is alooooot more that the 3ds is capable of, from simple things like very detailed customizations on the homescreen, to file management from any device on your network, it really only keeps getting more amazing the more devs work on them!
when my little sister got a switch I was all over her 3ds xl for homebrew lol. Great vid
Quite the opposite for me as when I got a Switch gave my sister my N3DSxl, but told her I can get her any game on 3DS for free 🤪🤪
@@lum1lad775 she prob don't even play it daily
@@pickleeggs3340 False, she started LozLTTP and literally always plays Rythm Heaven Megamix whenever I play Xenoblade on Switch
@@lum1lad775 she has good taste
Finally, a video guide that tells you not to follow video guides but actually read The website. Good job.
What the heck I bought a Japanese 3DS (non LL) literally a few days ago and then realized you uploaded this! Love your channel, and can’t believe you uploaded exactly what I needed!
I wish there was a homebrew Virtual Boy emulator with 3D effect.
Oh my God that would be KILLER!
always wondered why nintendo never ported them lol
emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Virtual_Boy_emulators
we have some emulators tho... one of those "might" get a 3ds port
There is one: github.com/mrdanielps/r3Ddragon
It actually does output 3D, but the speed and compatibility are really bad, unfortunately. For some reason, the development of it was abandoned in 2015, which is a pity, because there is no better suited screen to run VitrualBoy games, on any system in existence, than the one on a 3DS - it has the right resolution, does not require glasses and will not strain your eyes as much as the red diode arrays on the VirtualBoy would.
@@AGTS10k Does that do 3D? I remember downloading that one and it didn't do 3D, and it would bug out like crazy just trying to play Mario Tennis. It's like pre-pre-pre-alpha stage, a bit unusable.
@@amihartz Yep, it does. And yeah, it is very pre-alpha. I tried loading up the Mario Tennis rom just now, and it crashed the emu :) Some things, such as Galactic Pinball, for example, run kinda fine, but very slow, and you can actually see the 3D effect very well.
I got the same model and color about a year ago, the 3DS scene is awesome and continues to grow.
I however, chose to do a region change for convenience's sake.
i really would like it if you to continue to make these videos, even if they become obsolete at some point they're still so fun and informative to watch.
Truth be told this is why I subscribed. Had a 3DS XL for a few years now. Very nice little system and of course it also occurred to me all these 'extra' things that may be possible. Of course I never got around to any of that and those pesky little concerns like bricking the thing and all in all this being a fairly 'naughty' business as far as the world is concerned meant I never gave it that much thought. When I found this channel though it reminded me such things were possible and honestly I was waiting for this video. I was fairly sure it wouldn't be that difficult at this point but the way you relate everything is very encouraging and I appreciate you taking the time to do so for us all.
Many cheers my man.
The kids old 2ds will now have a new life.
The 2ds XL is also a beast. Plays everything basically as this one.
They just doesn't have the 3d feature, which is a worthy trade-off
actually the 2ds xl does not in fact run the same games as the model in this video, the New 2ds xl however does, games that don't run on "old" systems but do run on "new" systems include Minecraft, SNES Virtual Console games, Binding of Isaac: Rebirth and Xenoblade Chronicles, and there are many games, such as Super Smash Bros. 3ds and Pokemon USUM, run better on the "new" systems
@@WhoPlaysTheFool he probably meant new 2ds xl, as there is no old 2ds xl (2ds and new 2ds xl are the only options)
2ds xl and new 2ds xl are the same. 2ds is an old system and 2ds xl is automatically a new system with the extra c stick and new game compatability
it´s basically the same hardware but without stereocopic 3d 🤷♂️
Me : "I have to go back to work."
MVG : *releases new video*
Me, softly : "Don't."
MISTAKES WERE MADE
@@pandasdreamlygon stop
Or I have to go to work and MVG releases video , I’ll just call out lol
3ds still amazing, i've done this procedure on my unit a few time ago, it's really simple and powerful.
It's insane what can be done with the 3DS. The homebrew community is incredible
All I see in this is "Nintendo Ninjas". You are definitely in their watchlist...
Nintendo can't really do much about homebrew videos
9:21 MVG: "You'll need a SD card big enough to store your dumb game"
*dump
@@josemanuelruizgonzalez9353 *dumb
@@josemanuelruizgonzalez9353 *dumb
@@josemanuelruizgonzalez9353 *dumb
@@josemanuelruizgonzalez9353 *dumb
If you’re here, hello Seth Everman
I’m the Bald guy
I love that it's so easy to mod that you can do it in the time it would take to watch this video one and a half times
Thanks for revisiting this topic. The mod looks so easy to do now, I may do it to one of my 3DS systems. I really dig the idea of being able to rip my carts to the SD card.
Remember: everyone is first until you refresh
Remember, No Russian
@@ElfenCried Не понял!
@@ElfenCried I thought it was a call of duty reference for a second
@@ElfenCried Hold up!
@@camygael it is
Must have games for the 3DS are RE Revelations, Metroid Samus Returns, Monster Hunter Generations/3, Xenoblade Chronicles
God, imagine if the Wii U scene actually was alive and trying to make progress with the console.
Nobody bought one, so nobody cares. The 3DD sold more in 1 year than what the Wii U sold it's entire lifetime.
I thought mvg did a video on the Wii u homebrew and how good it was
My Wii U bricked and i miss it so much, imagine being able to play pretty much any Nintendo home console in a single device, so nice
@@killingtime4444 He did, and it's very good, but the scene's been identical for years, there's no one there trying to innovate it or improve it.
@@PanjaRoseGold oh I see what you mean
I didn't think I could learn anything new about the scene since I have had my 3DS cracked since the days you had to crack a DS flash card to do it, but you, again, have taught me oh so much.
Man, Is because of you that last year I bought a 2DS and modded it.
A few days ago I watched you DSi XL video and I decided to Buy one and Mod it as well.
Those two consoles are Awesome!
Thank you for everything, you are a hero.
Fans: Homebrew 3DS Gaming Never Dies!
Nintendo: *sends No fun allowed letter*
Yeah that really has stopped fans before...
Nintendo doesn't care anymore its old news to them
@@Matanumi They don't care enough to do something good but they do care in terms of IP... they did the last update in December essentially to hit the millions of 3ds with homebrew. The company even mentioned it in a press conference here in Japan.
I modded my 2ds a few Months ago, it is defently worth modding the System
S = small
M = medium
L = large
XL = extra large
Japan be like LL = large large
And XXL becomes XO, not that nintendo would have designed a DS XO though
😂
or large lusty
3:07 -- That video last year is what motivated me to buy a 2DS XL. I tell you, there are ZERO regrets. The variety and amount of games I have on mine is just ridiculous!
I picked up a 3ds xl after your video about a year ago, and it really is a great homebrew machine. Quake works surprisingly well on it
Backing up cartridges is such a cool feature I might mod mine just for that!
Year later reply:
Just did mine about a month or so ago, and you can even install them digitally too, as if they were eshop titles!
The 3DS is nice (I had the New 3DS XL then 'downgraded' to the standard New 3DS as I liked the size more) but I still think the DS Lite, paired with a flash cart, remains the best in the series.
how? the 3ds can play ds in widescreen and all consoles before ds.
Oh how I wish they were still 100$
Right? The title really surprised me
Just snagged a regular new 3ds for 100 euros with shipping, i was looking a deal for weeks tho
i did this a few weeks ago following this guide you recommended and its so easy I cant believe how easy it is honestly now i modded my OG 3ds a few years back and almost bricked it a few times along the way people are so dedicated i love it
I'm currently installing homebrew on my 3ds xl. I bought it two years ago but I haven't played it yet! Can't wait to download a bunch of roms and experience it for the first time!
How did it go/is it going?
@@ztar_tcg like a charm 😄👌
Oh boy has the price gone up on these consoles and boy are they hard to find.
right! i got a CIB Mint Monster hunter from japan for 200usd and now they are like 250+
"Noob" friendly. Love it
So basically LL is Large Large instead of XL with Xtra Large.
Largely Large
Large Lusty
Large Luigi
YES
SO VERY LARGE
Lengthy, Large
This is what I’ve been waiting for, I’ve had homebrew on my new 3ds xl for awhile now and it’s awesome
It’s genuinely shocking how easy it is these days! I used a 256GB card, knowing I’d stock it full. I have over a hundred 3DS, DS, GBA, titles and even 6 PS1 titles.
Games took up about 120GB, and I have about 40 movies on it now. Even the movies hold tight at 30FPS the entire time! Those 40 movies are in .4MPEG (resolution scaled to 800x480) & they have only taken about 15GB’s. Lots & lots of room left for dozens & dozens of movies or games.
I’ve never had a handheld like this one before and it is one of my most highly treasured possessions, period.
One thing not covered in this video is that many multi-region games will default to japanese and it may be difficult to switch them to english. Changing the device's region helps some, as does using luma locale switcher, though some games still launch in japanese in my experience. One example is Pokemon Y.
Yep! I remember someone commenting on another video mentioning that they were able to play "Animal Crossing: New Leaf" in English but then the seasonal events would be the Japanese events complete with Japanese dialogue.
i wish they fixed the DS emulator homebrew on 3DS, sadly it has some issues with some games
Indeed they do. I recently modded my 2ds xl last week and hate the ds emulator so much I am going to buy an r4i gold cart for that. They are dirt cheap at this point and the gold version doesn't have the "timebomb" on them.
Any games in particular? Lego Star Wars TCS completely spazzed out for me but everything else was fine.
are you using twilight menu? it's using the in build ds backwards compatibility with roms, i'd recommend using that. i've had no problems with it
@@xronium Agree with ya, I've been using twilight menu and haven't found any problems so far...
the 3DS is not powerfull enough to *emulate* a DS. so you probably mean backwards compatibilty.
This video has odd timing. I just started home brewing on my old 2ds system and have been looking into upgrading to a new 3ds. Being late to the game has sucked since everyone is price gouging the US models. I entered to win this one but if I don’t at least I know I can get a LL and still play my games. Thanks.
Favorite homebrew console ever. never a dull moment with this thing
Ahh, A new MVG video. Keep the content rolling brother.
I just stayed up too late last night modding out my Dragon Quest n2DS LL. This or a Vita makes the ultimate portable machine nowadays.
The 2 emulators I’d suggest looking at are mGBA and Virtual Boy. mGBA has save state and such for GBA rather then the real hardware of the VC injections that is barebones. Most games I’ve played other than Monkey Ball Jr have run fine on the ‘new’ model.
Virtual Boy has real stereoscopic 3D and is supposed to run full speed on the ‘new models for Warioland VB and Jack Bros.14
mGBA isn't full speed even on the "new" 3DS models. Just VC inject your GBA games.
The drums in the intro made me believe that I was on a less SFW website for a brief moment
"Since september, the entire 3DS family has been discontinued" wait what...? This is breaking news to me, are they ditching literally all of their entire gaming lineup for just the switch??
@@maximumbeans9310 interesting, have they ceased manufacturing entirely or is it a temporary thing...? Any official statement from them?
Yes the DS family has been officially discontinued, the last console being the New 2DS XL, and they are only focussing on Switch now. As far as i know, there's no looking that Nintendo will bring them back.
Unless Nintendo puts in effort to move the digital DS games to Switch, the only way of playing them is with the actual DS consoles (eShop is still up and running and for some reason even tho the consoles have been discontinued, the digital copies of the games are still ridiculously high priced) or through emulators.
I only heard the news a few months ago and decided to invest in a second hand New 2DS XL. If you don't own a 3DS yet, i advice looking into buying one soon since it's off the market and people are Nintendo Nostalgic after last year.
It's a wonderful little console and though the games are incredibly expensive, i'm happy to be able to finally own one. The Switch looks nice and all, but almost everyone agrees the DS family had much more to offer, and had a lot more personality. Quite a shame
@@coolbeans5911 very grim I say. the DS family has something special unlike the boring tablet slab of the switch. the DS is very unique compared to other consoles or handheld for that matter. there are no emulators on earth that is capable of emulating the gaming experience coming from the DS.. it's sad man. it's a dark age as a Nintendo fans. no more innovation being brought to the table.
@@miru2583 agreed, the worst part is that apparently Nintendo has announced that the 3DS eShop won't have credit card support anymore by January 2022 (as far as i understand, that means you won't be able to digitally buy any DS family games on your own console)
This is so frustrating because physical copies are incredibly expensive now and quite hard to come by, and it completely excludes players who recently started their 3DS journey and still want to build their game library (like come on it's SO expensive; i can't afford the most popular games and i was hoping the eShop will still be open for atleast 2years so i could save up for games like Pokemon Sun&Moon, Layton, Mario kart 7, Super Smash etc etc)
Nintendo is just so stupidly disconnected from their fans, incredibly infuriating
@@coolbeans5911 yes. data miner found an evidence in firmware 11.15 that they will eshop credit card payment. it's the last firmware update for the 3ds. most seller jacked up their prices after the news and the 3ds became a collectors items. your money won't go to the dev if you buy physical copy now. the only way to avoid being ripped off is by modding it. I wish they brought back the DS family or at least made a true successor to it. feels sad af
Great introduction video! I just finished homebrewing my new 3DSXL and I highly recommend following the 3ds hacks site guide mentioned in the video description as thouroughly as possible.
The one downside to no switching the region is that while yes you can still play out of region games you can't play online on official servers if you want to play multiplayer. You have to do the convoluted method.
Though its moot now because Nintendo is shutting down its servers in April.
i kind of regret selling it now
I'm wondering where to get a new 3DS XL or LL for $100. Everyone I come across is $200+
I got a $140 N3DS LL with the box on eBay from Japan. A lot are being listed as limited editions, but you can snag the parts on Aliexpress dirt cheap.
OfferUp in my area frequently has them under $100.
@@punchrockgroin5597 ooh could i askk
Walmart was selling them with MarioKart 7 for 100 bucks
@@waifubreaks1572 I believe walmart was selling the 2DS XL for $100 summer of last year. Inventory sold quickly and now you can only get them through 3rd Party sellers for about $30 over the asking MSRP.
Next video:
Why I got sued by Nintendo
Its the 3ds.... Nintendo doesn't care.
If it was the switch they would strike the video for sure
@@Matanumi modded warfare
@@Matanumi You must be new here.
Hey man, thanks for using resident evil: revelations as the way to show modding, it's good to know people still care about that game...
Funny how I got a New 3DS XL (the animal crossing happy home designer special edition) about 3 days ago to finally upgrade my ancient old 3DS I got back in 2011 for Christmas. and now you upload this!! Thank you! :)
Actually just the other day I bought a lot of 14 Dsi LL, from Japan and modded them all to be region free.
This got me thinking of a fun project, how large would an SD card need to be to hold *all* new 3ds games ever released ? And what would this number be for NDS games ?
Asking for a friend of course.
I don't have all of the 3DS games installed, but with 128GB i managed to cram everything 3DS that mattered to me, every NDS rom and everything from GB, GBC, NES, SMS, GEN.
GBA and SNES only have a few select games too.
Im sure with 256GB you would likely have enough for every game or close to every game on the 3DS library.
Also in case the cops are watching: Im rich and have every single cartridge for every single system mentioned above, 100% true! no lie! :^)
Check to see if the nintendo 3Ds XL has A SD card limit
There are major slowdowns reported for 256GB SD cards, so everyone recommends 128GB, which can't hold nearly all 3DS games.
And now, they are charging $300 ... $1000 for them.
I did the CFW on a $100 2DS XL and oh boi.... GBA games are bittersweet on the 3DS. And it's a great way to play all the 2D Metroid games before Dread
I have been wanting to get into homebrew on my 3ds systems for years and bricked two in the past, and I soon as I saw this upload from I jumped right to it. All I can say is thank you my goodness what an awesome system made even better
I'm worried about 3ds prices now
Dont worry i bought mine at a garage sale with 4 games for 7 dollars. Games: Mariocart 7, pes 2011, cars 2, starwars the complete saga
they're already sky high and have been for months
@ a lady was selling her wii and a 2011 3ds. i didnt know how much a 3ds costed to i haggled it down from 50 dirhams (AED) to 25 (AED) which is round 6-8 dollars
When you buy one of these, keep a look out for ones with IPS screens.
Nintendo pulled some bullshit so most N3DSXL consoles come with poor looking TN panel screens, and some with better looking IPS screens, or a mix of both.
The TN screens are faster, though. Not sure if it actually makes a difference.
@@KopperNeoman It's true I believe, that IPS screens usually have a tiny but more input lag than TN, but I never noticed it on 3DS.
For 3DS at least, I think it's more important you have a clear picture from all viewing angles.
2023 Update here:
Just got a Japanese New 2DS XL and did a region change and although yes, the eShop is unavailable to me, the hShop does make up for it. But that depends on your view on being a pirate…. Either way, homebrewing the 2/3DS is absolutely worth it
Thanks for sharing this - I already own a launch 3DS but it's...tiny. And I generally prefer tiny games, but the spec bump in the new models is enticing. And now with the eShop going down, there's really no risk anymore.
Out of curiosity, was there anyway to change the system menu to english while it was still in the Japanese region?
@@bubmario You can’t change the language without changing the region unfortunately. The Japanese region doesn’t have language options
You can fix the eshop, did it to mess around with it for a bit before it closed
Perfect timing! I just bought a New 3DS and was hoping to get homebrew on it.
Nice - Great video.
I picked up a 3DS XL (for myself), 2DS XL (for the wife) and a 2DS wedge style (for my daughter) back in 2019 and I homebrewed all three of them.... an easy process for sure.
"Accidentally removal of Games". Sure Nintendo sure LMAO
@@loyalmctinfoil accidents happen
@Captain Kirk well yes obviously, it was a mistake, accidents do exist. Nintendo would’ve just stuck with their decision if it was intentional.