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Talib Kweli & Selema Masekela On His Father, Method Man, X Games, ESPN, Racism | People's Party Full
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- Опубліковано 18 сер 2024
- In this episode of "People's Party With Talib Kweli," Kweli and Jasmin Leigh sit down with television host, sports commentator, actor, singer, writer and entrepreneur:
SELEMA MASEKELA
Here's what we got into on this one:
• Selema's cousin, South African rapper Selema Writes.
• George Zimmerman reinforcing racist's sense of power and vigilantism.
• His father, iconic jazz musician Hugh Masekela and his rich legacy.
• The musical collaboration Alekesam between Selema and Sunny Levine.
• The US government's lack of response to the refugee crisis in Haiti.
• Attending elementary school with Method Man and what he was like as a kid.
• Coming to the realization that he wanted to be addressed by his birth name.
• The culture shock of moving from Staten Island, New York to Carlsbad, California.
• Encountering racism on the beaches, while learning how to surf.
• People being triggered online when he stands up for pro-black causes.
• How the emergence of the X Games changed boarding culture forever.
• Visiting South Africa to film the doc series 'Umlando' with his father.
• The paddle out at Moonlight Beach held in George Floyd's honor.
• 150 black surfers united at Manhattan Beach in response to racism.
• Selema's motto of "be blocked and be blessed" dealing with online racism.
• His clothing brand Mami Wata and it's concept of African themed surf wear.
• Detailing the inspiration for Talib's 'Ocean Song'.
• Selema's friendship with fashion designer and entrepreneur Virgil Abloh.
• "F*ck your tolerance, start with acceptance..."
• His biggest takeaways learning from snowboarding pioneer Jake Burton.
• What Selema has on the horizon.
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TIME STAMPS:
5:04 -- The conversation kicks off with talk about Selema's cousin, South African rapper Selema Writes, his connection to Talib and Selema taking issue with having the same name as his cousin until he finally got the chance to meet him. They go on to discuss Selema's tweet in the wake of the Kyle Rittenhouse shootings stating "Zimmerman walked so Rittenhouse could run" and they get into why anti-racists see Rittenhouse’s racism, whereas others don’t seem to as well as how Zimmerman reinforced racist's sense of power and vigilantism.
11:59 -- Selema's father, iconic jazz musician Hugh Masekela is discussed and they get into his legacy as the father of South African jazz. Selema talks about the constant studying of his father's storytelling growing up, Hugh's strong and vocal advocacy for the Anti-Apartheid Movement through his music, being on the road with his father during Paul Simon's Graceland tour and his close friendship with famous musician and activist Fela Kuta. They also talk about the musical collaboration Alekesam between Selema and Sunny Levine and why it's a full circle moment for those two.
21:11 -- Selema speaks on playing the clarinet and saxophone throughout school and dealing with some inevitable pressures to achieve musical greatness being the son of Hugh Masakela. They go on to discuss the US government's lack of response to the refugee crisis in Haiti as well as Selema being raised in Staten Island, New York and going to elementary school with Method Man. He talks about how Meth was as a kid, being one of the funniest in school and also details his reaction years later when he witnessed his childhood friend on TV rapping with the Wu-Tang Clan.
29:58 -- Selema gets into his reunion with Meth during a MTV event and then later ending up in a van smoking out with DMX, Redman and Cappadonna. Selema goes on to talk about the nickname Sal that was given to him by his white friends after he moved to Southern California, the name sticking with him over so many years, his growing desire later on to be addressed by his birth name, and how Salema's friendship with Alyasha Owerka-Moore, his time working at ESPN as well as the George Floyd and Breona Taylor protests helped him arrive at the decision that he didn't want to be called Sal anymore.
40:07 -- Selema is asked about his move to Carlsbad, California when he was a teenager and the culture shock he encountered there being a black kid from New York. He talks about the challenges of finding a barber that could cut his hair, hearing the N-bomb on multipule occasions while on the beach learning how to surf and kids telling him he would never be good enough. They go on to discuss Selema stating "the idea that i have friendships with white folks but still speak out against white supremacy infuriates people" and how triggered some people get when he stands up for pro-black causes.
48:04 -- Selema tells how the emergence of the X Games changed the culture and not in a way that Selema approved of at the time. They go on to discuss his father's reaction to witnessing the X Games for the first time as well as Selema shutting down an ESPN rep's job offer as a correspondent and why he later reconsidered and took the gig. They also get into the incredible experience of being able to visit South Africa and film the ESPN documentary series 'Umlando' with his father during the FIFA World Cup. His father calling it "a righteous heist".
59:10 -- Selema speaks on the paddle out at Moonlight Beach held in George Floyd's honor after the protests as well as another meeting a year later of 150 black surfers at Manhattan Beach in response to an incident that occured when one of his friends was harassed by a racist on the beach weeks earlier. They go on to discuss Gavin McInnes blaming Talib for having to hire security guards, Selema's motto of "be blocked and be blessed" when dealing with online racists, D.L. Hughley's energy on social media as well as Talib and Selema's experiences on Snoop's GGN News.
1:13:25 -- Selema's clothing brand Mami Wata is explored and it's concept of African wearability within the very white world of surf fashion and streetwear. They go on to discuss the mission and ethos of Mami Wata and why he wanted to take the project on. Selema details how the idea came to fruition through all the people he met on his once a month trips to South Africa during his father's cancer treatments. He also goes on to share some of the Mami Wata gear with us Talib explains his inspiration for 'Ocean Song'.
1:23:01 -- Selema is asked about his relationship with world renowned fashion designer and entrepreneur Virgil Abloh. They discuss the inspiration that Virgil told Selema he was able to draw from his success and Virgil always being one that did whatever he could to lift up others. They go on to talk about Selema's Bomb Hole interview where he stated "F*ck your tolerance, start with acceptance and go from acceptance and work towards being able to embrace." Selema is also asked about his biggest takeaways working with and learning from snowboarding pioneer Jake Burton as well as what Selema has on the horizon.
This interview brings me a lot of joy, because as one of the few black kids who loved action sports, it was always a blessing to see someone like me corresponding the X Games. It's also amazing to hear of all the other monumental accomplishments and the ongoing projects he has going. Salute, People's Party for this! 🔥🔥🔥
Thanks for the love! Incredible podcast. You guys rule❤️❤️❤️
Selema is a groundbreaking person for black people who do not subscribe to all of culture that is not “traditionally black” gave people like myself permission to be ourselves and STILL BLACK 🌞✨
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For real..He is very special.
This was a great sit down. As an Italian American from NY , I feel like I learned a lot today. Great hour and a half.
1:18:15 I needed all of this. 🌊 i was born in 1975 the same year that song mami wata was written and big ups for spitting the Ocean piece you were moved to recite. No one can stop weee from being reunited with HER.
Selema is the voice I grew up on as a BMX kid. Nothing but love.
1:28:00 This whole exchange about tolerance < acceptance < embracing: holding space where people can be and feel seen. Well said.
I’m sure I’ve heard Selema’s voice and in docs but didn’t really know who he was until now…thank you for sharing him. This is strangely but not, my favorite interview to date. 🙏🏾🔥☝🏾❤️
This was a treat to watch, inspirational stuff🙏
Excellent. Excellent. EXCELLENT!
old skater here. good stuff. glad to be here.
Thank you Salema for being there for my childhood
TOP NOTCH - will be relistening. thank you selema and talib
Hugh Masekala's music was amazing to me. "Riot" got me through some things lol
great interview but the movie jas was talking about wad johnny tsunami where he went from surfing to snowboarding brink! was about rollerblading. lol
This conversation was incredible.
His father is an absolute legend..
fave rapper interviewing the man himself ALEKESAM
I miss this guy on the xgames man!!!
LIve from CAPETOWN SOUTHAFRIKA
Great,great talk, everybody...
Selema Writes 🔥🔥🔥🎤
Respect for this video.👊
That was love. Good people.
Had a 15 minute chat with Selema about 15 years ago in a bar in Whistler, BC.
Solid individual. This interview solidified my views of him.
All time human.
Selema is damn right about tolerance.
Africa has entered the chat 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🔥🔥🔥🔥
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Shout out 2 sal masakela 👈 growing up skating and surfing in Orange County in the 90s as a Brotha was a different experience but sal was always a piece of motivation holding it 👇
Get Kareem Campbell as a guest 🙏🙏🙏🙏
That board is fly!
This was dope...S/O.
Selema and Talib! Legendary!
this dude right here! man, dude is bra hugh, as south afrikans would say, for really!
Brink was a rollerblading movie. I loved it and what it pushed.
This was magnificent. 👏👏
I grew up seeing the X Games and I never knew he was Hughes son. Lol
Wow I haven't seen him in so many years I remember seeing him on ESPN on the NBA but especially on the X Games. I didn't know he knew Method Man that's what's up and I didn't know his dad was a such an entity in music. Also I didn't know his name was Selema because I saw him on ESPN as Sal. Hes very intellicual dude some of the quotes he lives by i can relate too.That's why I love your show you put people on to your guests,drop fun facts as well, and make them feel like family. Another great episode
Always a great watch. Will you guys have Missy Elliot in your plans? I love her so much
Perfect impersonation of Bra Hugh :'D We miss him sorely
Downright beautiful. Old heads in two different genres.
✊☝️ the extreme psa voices rock
Brink was not snowboarding! Brink was Inline skating! You’re thinking of Jonny Tsunami
i wish Salema would get on the nine club or hawk wolf
Jazmine Brink on Disney was a movie about rollerblading
Can someone link to the documentary with Selema and Hugh Masekela?
Yo brink is a rollerblading movie. Its maybe the best disney movie of all times.. 0% snowboarding tho
Oh interview with funnyman selema 🤣
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He's gotta be South African
This reminds me of all the Koreans who changed their name to something common like John because people couldn't pronounce their Korean names. Then because there were so many i.e. John Kim's we had to follow up with like the one who drives the black Honda accord.
Oh, word?🤔
SAD HE ALLOWED THE WHITE SUPREMACIST TO SURPRESS HIS REAL NAME, BUT I GUESS YOU HAVE TO PLAY THE GAME TO BE IN THE GAME. CALIFORNIA LOVE AND NUFF RESPECT DO, TO TALIB HIS CREW & SAL-SELEMA. KEEP ON PUSHING. 😎🎭💫
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