Talib Kweli & Busta Rhymes Talk ELE: 2, J Dilla, Q-Tip, Kendrick, 5% & Chuck D | People's Party Full
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- Опубліковано 13 гру 2020
- In this episode of "People's Party With Talib Kweli," Kweli and Jasmin Leigh sit down with 11-time Grammy nominated rapper, singer, record producer, actor, record executive, mega-hit maker machine as well as one of Kweli's chief inspirations and mentors:
BUSTA RHYMES
This long-awaited and long-overdue episode doesn't disappoint. Here's a few of the insightful topics discussed during this conversation between close friends.
• Lessons learned on tour and under the tutelage of Chuck D and Public Enemy.
• How Busta gained his reputation as the go-to emcee for features on a remix.
• What caused the clash of Busta, Charlie Brown, and Dinco D leading to the break up of Leaders Of The New School.
• The mentorship of Q-Tip and Busta being the gatekeeper to 100's of unreleased J Dilla beats.
• How Busta landed a solo deal with 'The Coming', and taking 7 months to write ''Woo Hah!!'
• Influences of the Five-Percent Nation and gaining knowledge-of-self at an early age.
• Meeting President Obama at the White House to speak along with Talib and others.
• Working with Hype Williams on some of the most expensive music videos of all-time.
• Learning a new level of discipline while making the 'Big Bang' album with Dr. Dre.
• Reaching a moment of clarity when he was hospitalized for a life-threatening condition.
• The making of his latest album 'Extinction Level Event 2: The Wrath of God'.
• Discussion about a potential Verzuz celebrating the careers of Busta and Missy Elliott.
The full episode is mandatory viewing as they dig into some essential history during the next two hours.
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Fave Busta collab - GO!
TIMESTAMPS:
3:00 -- Busta is asked when he realized the importance of his performances being spectacular, leaving a lasting impression with the audience. Busta explains how it came from his experiences touring under the tutelage of his Long Island forefather Chuck D and Public Enemy. Witnessing all the preplanning up to the full execution, and being there from PE's start in '86 all the way up to 'Fear Of A Black Planet'. Learning their concept driven approach to every album and making music with a meaning behind it. He tells how Chuck D gave Busta his name, as well as how he had to battle the group Young Black Teenagers for the rights to the name of Leaders Of The New School.
10:44 -- Busta speaks about his history of classic features on other artists' records. He lays out how he started taking cameos seriously after leaving Leader's Of The New School. He talks about bringing a bag of weed, a freshly rolled blunt, and some recently penned rhymes to the studio of his favorite artists. Soon enough they would ask Busta to jump in the booth and lay down bars that would become some of the most iconic collaborations on wax. They also examine the break up of Leaders Of The New School, all occurring on the set of Yo! MTV Raps. They discuss each member recording their second album 'T.I.M.E.' seperately, and what the main contributing factors were that led to the fallout between Busta, Charlie Brown and Dinco D.
24:40 -- Busta then goes on to praise Q-Tip for his mentorship early on in Busta's career, calling him the East Coast Dr. Dre. Busta explains how Tip opened countless doors for him with Busta's features on the Tribe albums. He then goes into his mind being blown when Tip gave Busta his first Dilla beat tape, which led to Dilla having production credits on just about every one of Busta's albums thereafter. He explains why Dilla dubbed Busta the James Brown of hip hop, Common's role as a great friend to J, and Dilla's beat selection process. Busta also reflects on his deep love of Dilla, being in possession of hundreds of his unreleased beats and the great responsibility he feels with where and who they go to.
34:22 -- Busta talks about the 'dream come true moment' with the release of his 1996 solo album 'The Coming'. He explains why the album took him 3 years to make, gives a shout-out to A&R Dante Ross for his help in getting Chris Lighty and Lyor Cohen to give him a solo deal. He outlines how he was intimidated by the pressure involved with taking on an album all by himself, but the fear became secondary when he saw the figures on the check, and realizing it didn't have to be split 4 ways. Busta goes on to tell about Q-Tip taking a plane to LA and leading on the logistics of 'The Coming' release, as well as explains the significance and sentimentality of one of the skits on the album. He also speaks on the 7 month process of penning the lead single 'Woo Hah!!', and the snowball of success once it hit the airwaves.
47:00 -- Busta reflects on influences of the Five-Percent Nation being present at a very young age. He explains his fascination of the Gods coming early with their philosophies, as well as how cool their given names were. He tells about getting knowledge-of-self when he reached age 12, but also getting caught up in street life around the same time, leading to his mother moving them to Long Island. He tells about bouncing back to Brooklyn for a few years then again to Long Island where the Leaders of the School was born as well as Busta's first child. Busta also gets into how Flipmode came to be as well as George Clinton introducing him to the book 'Behold a Pale Horse' written by Milton William Cooper, which ended up having a profound influence on Busta with it's conspiracy theories about a nearing apocalypse.
1:01:22 -- Talib reminisces on his and Busta's visit to the White House to meet President Obama in support of his My Brother’s Keeper initiative. Busta goes on to tell about the feeling of pride in being able to share his story as well as the teachings of the Five-Percent Nation with the President. Busta expresses his hopes in getting back to the conscious era in hip hop pioneered by groups like Public Enemy, Brand Nubian, and A Tribe Called Quest that faded into the background with the corporate exploitation of Gangsta Rap. He goes on to reveal some regrets about not following up enough with the attendees of that meeting to put plans into actions, but outlines his gratitude for how much he learned, as well the relationships he's built with his friends in the hip hop community.
1:13:31 -- Jasmin brings up UPROXX Music channel's 'New School Rappers React' series of younger emcees reacting to vintage classics. One of those being Busta's 'Put Your Hands Where My Eyes Can See' directed by Hype Williams. She asks Busta what his relationship was like with Hype during those times when they were releasing these mega-budgeted music videos with price tags of 1 Million plus. Busta explains how Hype always allowed him to have a huge say in how they approached the projects creatively, how the success of the movie Titanic came into play, and gives due credit to CEO Sylvia Rhone for her forward vision of the huge investments in these videos eventually paying off.
1:19:14 -- Busta walks us through his meeting with Dr. Dre at Record One Studios in 2003 for talks about plans for a project that would become the 'Big Bang' album. He tells how Dre advised Busta to consider taking a break from all distractions so he could get laser focused on creating music and working on his physical health. Busta talks about learning patience and discipline with his new super-strict work ethic, diet and workout schedule, as well as turning down potentially lucrative payouts. He talks about how despite some mis-steps along the way with the 'Big Bang', he still considers it some of his best work, especially from a production standpoint.
1:27:44 -- Busta goes on to outline the turbulent times that followed the success of his album 'Big Bang'. Beginning with a falling out with Interscope Records, prompting him to go back to Sylvia Rhone to make his next album, then following that with a collab of Cash Money Records. This eventually turning into a very rough period that included the passing of his father as well as his manager CEO Chris Lighty. Busta stating: "I descended on a downward spiral of carelessness and neglect for my well being". He illustrates his rock bottom moment this year after a night of heavy parting following the shooting of his music video for 'Czar'. He tells about falling into a serious case of sleep apnea leading to a trip to the emergency room and a surgery that likely saved his life.
1:43:17 -- Talib notes how incredible he found Busta's new album 'Extinction Level Event 2: The Wrath of God'. He also states Busta not regularly being in the top 10 rappers of all-time conversation an injustice. Talib asks Busta if there was a conscious effort to come with the consciousness on his new album. Busta responds, and also explains why right now he feels like he's become his best-self which is why the narratives and themes contained on this album couldn't be timed any more perfectly. They also cover Kendrick Lamar's contribution on 'Look Over Your Shoulder', Busta's producer Nottz landing the acapella sample of a young Michael Jackson, Kendrick being the one to choose that beat, and Busta names off his 'Beat Avengers' crew, with the 5 go-to producers over the course of his career.
1:53:31 -- Jasmin brings up Busta's recent public back and forth with T.I. about a potential Verzuz battle. She asks Busta how it feels to have so many of his peers view him as one of the untouchables when it comes to a battle on that platform. Busta goes on to express his wish for a Verzuz with Missy Elliott in a celebratory way, honoring both of their legacies together with their history of close ties. Talib concludes the show by noting how much of a trip down memory lane this interview has been with all the family connections discussed and Busta returns the love and appreciation of their comradery.
my favorite either gotta be Scenario or Simon Says
ANTE UP, and Flavor in your ear Remix.
Vibin'(The New Flava), Hit Em High, and Fried Chicken off of Nas's Untitled album
Thanks!!! God bless!!
It’s a big toss up between Victory remix by Notorious B.I.G & Tear the Roof Off featuring Mystikal
Thanks Busta for acknowledging Chuck D!
I will forever give Busta props for that; he always show Chuck D love.
yezsuh', shid...✌🏿™️
He gave him his rap name. Chuck will always get respect for that alone. Not just everything else he's done for Busta
We give Chuck a lot of love on this show!
Yes you guys do and I’m thankful for it. He doesn’t get the respect he deserves. Btw - when are you guys going to get Paris on the show? His latest release and videos are hitting!
The Dillagence project that Busta put together was so important to me as a fan. Im so happy that Talib made a point to ask him about working with Dilla.
Busta is one of the greatest, period. His songs are iconic. He is the king of club bangers.
Darkz. You was a diaper kitten
When you do a song with The Pussycat Dolls and it becomes a hit, your legacy is sealed
Club bangers? You don’t know buss young one!
Busta is so raw it’s like he snorts 10 lines of cocaine before he raps
Facts that's why I want to see him battle someone LL is scared talking about go and hit up missy Elliott his is in my top five
Jay Dee aka JDilla forever❤️❤️. Shout out from South Africa.
RSA in the building. Shout out from Soweto. J Dilla was a legend
Talib, I'm a 30-something white guy in Europe who doesn't know too much about the culture, but I genuinely love your interviews - I learn so much from them. Your style is perfect: real conversations, no time for easy soundbites. One of the first hip-hop albums I got when I was little was Busta's ELE - love this guy. Love Black Star too, and I promise to look into your body of work moving forward! Sending you & Jasmin respect and appreciation
So so glad that you like it! Thanks for spreading the word on the show!
Shoutout to Jaz and Talib on having a legend in Busta Rhymes. He is so underrated when it comes to him and music. His longevity from the Leaders of the New School to now is incredible. When need to give his man his credit when its due. By the way ELE2 is 🔥🔥🔥. A definite classic and should be up for album of the year for 2020
mane...™️ ✌🏿
Hyped that this ep is resonating!
Outside of Busta being a dope MC, his interview game is #1.
ELE2 proved that Busta Rhymes, this deep in his career, is like LeBron in Year 18.... ageless!
PS: Extinction Level Event 2 is THE ALBUM OF THE YEAR in my humblest opinion!
I agree aoty
FACTZ !!!!!!
He say on 85 South that, He was going bust our head wide open and that was a fact.
Absolutely!
One of the greatest concept records to date
Respect to the legend Busta Rhymes 🔥
That intro was so crazy and well deserved. Busta crying tears of joy. My heart is breaking open💔. I was there at the Palladium, NYC. I saw you both & I see you now. Blessings and joy gentlemen & Queen mama.. ✌🌏
Awesome!! Thank you for this!!
That skit was busta messing round , daamn! When I first heard that skit on that album I wanted more and thought it was 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Takes time too craft great albums a lost art respect to busta rhymes
well put!
I discovered Busta when I was barefoot and hungry at 11 years old back in 1997. I was listening through an old PANASONIC car radio hooked up to a car battery. Today I watch this podcast on a fancy smart TV with a cigar in my hand and a beautiful wife next to me. Busta's music carried many of us through hardships. Thank you, with love from SOUTH AFRICA 🇿🇦
ELE 2, record of the year winner!
Goodie Mob new album Survival Kit is pretty good imo.
@@jasonkidd1689 I AM LATE AF DIDN'T KNOW GOODIE MOBB HAD ALBUM OUT
Busta’s album is dope, but it can’t f with Paris Safe Space Invader.
Record of the Decade
Salute and respect to busta rhymes ! Living legend !
Appreciate yall!!! Congrats Album is amazing!!!!
Damn I'm curious how he felt when Heavy D and Prodigy died. RIP his dad and Chris Lighty/Baby Chris!!!
"Skip to my Lu, kinda Funky" were the first lyrics I heard before being introduced to Busta! He's a fantastic artist one of a kind from day 1, without doubt 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿great Interview! thanks ✌️🏿& 💛
someone hit busta up with some decent internet STAT!
This was a seriously good episode
Busta is too live and fast even for 5G networks. Xfinity can’t even keep up with this man’s energy, He’s on a whole nother universe. I can’t even see him in this video. It’s just a blank screen.
Busta shuts down wifi for blocks. Takes em back to the dial up days!
That's crazy, I dropped that comment before you brought it up! Awesome that Busta was the one to put you onto that! Moment Of Clarity is my favorite Jay-Z track and I give him mad respect for praising you as the amazing lyricist you are. I honestly wasn't into Jay and didn't listen to his music at all until he got with Danger Mouse and dropped The Grey Album. Really made me appreciate his flow and cleverness. Also, how genius must that guy be to resell the same album 3 different times. The Black Album, The Gray Album and he did that Collision Course thing with Linkin Park and re-released a bunch of their songs together. His business sense is impeccable. "Get By" the first Talib Kweli track I heard, and still my favorite. Much love for seeing two legends just big each other up and support one another, that's how it should always be! Really, REALLY love and respect you two SO SO MUCH!
Love the VODS. Keep showing an providing us with this greatness
When Busta and Talib collaborate, it’s an event!!!!
Need another Talib Kewli and Busta Rhymes for the culture.
There will never be another Talib Kweli or Busta Rhymes in human history. They’re both one of a kind, the last of a dying breed.
Speak on it!
This is gonna be great. Love Busta, had dope ass videos, and solid albums...he got a solid underrated discography.
facts! Have you lived with ELE2 a little? It's serious!
Jay Dilla is one of my top 5 favorite producers (Pete Rock, Q Tip, Primo, RZA). I stayed with Slum Village in my CD player in my car. Q Tip birthed many producers and sounds across genres. I’m glad Buss gave those generals their 💐 flowers 🌸
Exactly me too as well daily!
ohhh yeah! i was so looking forward to this
I usually enjoy these interviews and this one kept me captivated for all 120 minutes!
Glad you enjoyed it!
What a fantastic story, thanks for Busta's honesty, I've seen so many of your interviews. However, this one is right up there with one of my favorites. This elder and so appreciates what you are doing and the way you showcase our people in such a positive. way. Asante sana son. Keep up the noble work.
Mad Props to Busta for shoutin out William Cooper and his monumental book 'Behold A Pale Horse'. Definitely the most cherished text on my shelf.
I was 15 when 'The Coming' dropped, and it straight up blew my mind. I already loved Busta from Leaders albums so I was hyped for his first solo joint. But when 'Woo Hah' came out it was game over. 'Wild for the Night' was my jam too. Thank You Busta. Keep on.
FLIPMODE IS THE SQUAD!!!
An entire LEGEND!!!!!! Thank you!!
Great interview...Thank u for letting that King just chop it up. Love to ALL
One ☝🏽 of the best interviews anywhere ever ‼️⚡️⚡️
When I think of Hip Hop, I think of Busta. This brotha got the game with no instructions on how to assemble it and paved the way for many young brothas. Nuff Respect ✊🏾
Rest in POWER ✌🏼 💫 🖤 DILLA
Great interview. My favorite Bus album is "The Big Bang". What a great album. Still relevant today. Good to see him back.
Wow this is an epic interview. Emotional, historical, inspirational and just incredible. Save this one 🙏
Busta interviews are always the best, entertaining and informative.
Love this interview!
LOVE to hear Busta talk about Dilla and his legacy, heartfelt realness. Much love & RESPECT!
Great talk all around, everybody...
Two of my favourite. Kweli & Busta. Amazing
Such a god MC, I'm glad he could share some of his knowledge for the People's Party! Glad y'all brought up his music videos, each one was so well crafted and unique! I have to admit I haven't listened to ELE2 entirely yet so I'll have to check it out at some point very soon haha
Such a dope interview!!
Appreciate that!
One of the greatest interviews ever straight quality work
Great interview! I notice no one ever asks him about Flipmode Squad!! Maybe he asks interviewers not to talk about them. Rah Digga is a top 5 female MC!!!
They're not relevant to the conversation in question
Album and interview of the year!
Straight fire, peace to these two Gods of the game!! Bless up 🙏
Missy vs. Busta Verzuz to me would be ideal.
truth
Always been one of my favs !!
I loved this conversation
Busta Rhymes for the winnnnn!
Man...Love this dude. Spectacular interview and Lots of knowledge being dropped if you listen to it all!
Thanks for listening
You NEVER disappoint with your shows #realtalk
TELL YOUR FRIENDS! (please!)
“At exactly which point do you start to realize that life without knowledge is death in disguise? That’s why knowledge of self is like life after death, apply it to your life like destiny manifest.” 🚀🌑🌍
I listen to the podcast but had to come to the video to give you and Jasmin are doing the damn thing with your platform. Been rockin with you for a while mayne
HUGE GRATITUDE!
Salute. Thank you Talib for not being like some others and constantly cutting the artist off. Love this.
Even thinking back to the Busta features on the Rumble in the Jungle and Hit ‘em High singles. So captivating with his lyricism, appearance and energy. That 96-99 period was some amazing work from Busta.
Thank you. We, Pause the Internet needs more Busta Rhymes.
Oh snap! This might be the best one yet!
Best from this platform, i prolly have to agree. Busta on drink champs was my fave busta interview tho.
YEssssss! Thanks for the love!
Great interview as always! 🙌🏽
I would have liked a question about DJ Scratch and his involvement in the early Busta albums. And a little about Flipmode, what Busta’s expectations were for the group and what he feels went wrong with it. The Imperial was a strong album for me.
Excellent as usual
As cliché as it is to say, Talib was one of my favorite rappers at a point in my life...still is I guess, but not just cuz of his music but the vibe I got from him. I guess that's also true for all my favorite artists period. So now being a fan of his podcast its hittin all over again! I really enjoy the way he asks questions and let's his guest talk about things in depth. His genuine interest in what they have to say motivates them to share, its like you can see them just feel comfortable by the vibe him and Jas provide just being genuine and welcoming and then they just open up. Shit is great! Incredible!
So glad this resonates with you.
I don't think I've even listened so intently hanging on every word thru video lag in my life. I read the Behold a pale Horse as well and now hearing him say that he gave the book to Gipp I can cleary see how that info transfered and helped mold those particular albums and artists.
Much Gratitude
I hate these call in interviews this would have been even more dope if they were sitting across the table from each other and recorded on high quality cameras
You have Covid 19 to blame for what has change,I been hearing that someone in the comments on a video I look at has said coronavirus was Fake
Yeah we wish we could be in the studio as well !! Thank you for hanging in there with us during this trying time
He was on Drink Champs recently in person. It was a 4 + hour video!
@@Repdetec04 i was just about to comment that. And that interview/bar setting convo was one of the best ive seen in a while.
@@JasminLeigh but you can, if you and your guests sit 1-3 ft apart from each other.
This could be implemented with such thought.
Try it, if it works go with it, if not ditch it! Please also provide high quality headphones for audio!
6am to start my shift right this Monday . Uproxx for the win 💪🏻🏁🏁
We're with you at work! Repping hard for you!
One ☝🏿 of favorite Emcees of all time!!
Missy and Busta video verses would be dope.
Peace to the Gods. So much love and respect for these two.
As a white kid growing up in a middle class area in ohio, I never heard of the nation of the gods and earth's or supreme mathematics.
I don't claim to be part of the nation or anything like that. But I am forever grateful to busta, wutang, talib, and many more for teaching me those lessons, jewels and the importance of knowledge of self. It changed my life and probably saved my life.
Not to mention, they all make Bangers!!!
Busta also needs to write a book. The stories and history would be incredible.
Itll be dope to get on here one day ❤ great show and always great guest
This was a great interview I learned a lot about busta rhymes in this interview
glad you felt it!
Yeah man that book "Behold the Pale Horse " messed my head up too. I had to put it down several times just to imbibe what I was reading. It definitely blew me away.
That was simply Epic. & I don’t say that lightly that was simply on another level .
This is a DOPE interview.. i would love to see/hear an interview with The Teacha KRS-ONE
Blessings 🙌🏼✨✨✨
Monumental!!!
Dope Interview, legends...
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#BEERnMUSIC
For me, this is not only an entrepreneur story but a transformation story. Miles Munroe said you become a true leader thru self-discovery, overcoming obstacles, and breaking out of comfort zones. Busta Rhymes showed that. We gotta take care of ourselves.
Classic interview
Respect blessings 🙌🏼
Thxxx
Busta!!!! Top 5 of all time
I love Talib Kweli, even Jay-Z gave him ups! One of the greatest lyricists of all time. Busta has always been my favorite rapper, hands down. "Put Your Hands Where My Eyes Can See" is one of my all-time favorite raps. So good, such a solid beat, amazing lyrics. Two powerhouses in the game, I fucking love it!
Arguably the greatest rap video eva made 💯💯
Legends……absolute
I’ve been enamored by Busta again. The man just showed back up, like he has never left. I love the new album. I’m so excited about his reemergence. Thanks for this Ep 🖤💫 #cosign4sarcasm #surreal_demasturdebator
ELE my favorite Busta album! Love every song but Everybody Rise is my joint, perfect track to kick the LP off! Peace and Love ✊🏾🙏🏾
Good pick! What do you think of the new joint?
@@UPROXXVideo I love it! Timeless old school sound not sounding outdated but updated! 🤙🏾
i still have that Cd
Awesome interview with the legendary Busta Rhymes. That chain though...
Damn Busta...
Talib and Jasmin are great hosts, this show needs more love. Great insight into his mind. Could listen to another 3 hours of this team up. Bustas latest album is best. Awesome interview.
Awesome
I love hearing about the Knowledge, hearing names like Malik Bey, speaking on books that are banned in the prison system like Behold a Pale Horse. The knowledge of self is why Hip Hop saved my life and this interview is a special one. Get a OG Bboy on here! There’s more elements to this Hip Hop thing and I would love to see a interview with Ken Swift or someone who represents the culture well like Bboy Thesis. Much love! Keep em coming.
Deeeppp very deeeeep interview...
to much knowledge of life he was sharing to us to elevate and become the highest of ourselves... thanks Talib for your podcast.. 🎤
An impeccable memory. The trademark of a GOD emcee . . .
Nice interview. I only wish they would have talked about his work with Easy Mo Bee on The Coming album. People forget about Easy Mo Bee
💪🏾💯✊🏾 RESPECT ⚔️ HONOR !!! Peace to the Gods and Earth. Loved this episode. I am thankful for this 🔥🐉🔥 #Gratitude
TRUTH 🏔️ FAITH 💖 COMPATION 🦅
Very good interview remember that skit on the coming like a freestyle
right on, shid...✌🏿™️
🕓 #POWER & #RESPECT
Love 🤟🏽
The intro🔥🔥 peace !
G R A T I T U D E !!