The forward areas would be sandblasted to show more metal due to direction of flight and the back side of surfaces would have build up. Link the back of a car after driving a dusty road. You've done it the opposite. It's amazing work regardless.
I was thinking for myself I also would have focused more on which areas are in contact with the environment stagnantly, like the landing gear, for more heavy grime accumulation. Whereas areas that would be in movement, like the ornithopters wings, particularly the tips, would be regularly cleaned and maintained. The contrast is what matters though, like you said, even though Norm approach this differently than we would it still looks good in its own right. The difficulty would come if you had multiple pieces, without a coherent vision of what should wear and accumulate.
You've come so far since some of your earlier painting and weathering attempts, this looks excellent, hanging around with Adam and Kayte has definitely paid off.
I love that there’s both landing gears retracted and deployed, I wish this had retracted and deployed weapon systems as well, would’ve been 10/10 for me. Super excited, this is the first plaid model kit I’ve ordered can’t wait to paint it up and zoom it around hehe
A clay wash could be useful on something like this too. Water based, effectively paint it on, leave it to dry a bit, then wipe it off with a slightly damp sponge. As such it'll get into all the recesses, but also leaves a dusty/matt finish. I'm also planning on using the tamiya powders for some chipping and wear and tear, as they have metallics which if you're careful with, you can pick out an edge, so it looks worn, but fairly natural. Also want to put some smoke/oil around the moving parts and exhaust vents
Love it. Thanks for posting this. I just ordered this kit and am weathering the Atreides Ornithopter right now. And yes, I'll be trying the Tamiya A weathering set for the first time too. Thanks for the motivation.
I've assembled both of the 1/72 Atreides and Harkonnen Ornithopters, and honestly they seem to be a little bit overscaled. The cockpits feel too spacious, compared to the movie, so I think you could just add an 1/48 cockpit with figures and could argue that it is a 1/48 model.
You should check out the ProAcryle Newsh product. Turns normal acrylic paints into basically an oil wash but without the tinners. Also the Dirty Down paint effects for rust is just magic
This video is about as exciting as watching paint dry. (see what I did there??) 🤣🤣🤣 I'm going to just have to bite the bullet and buy one of the Meng kits. They look great!
I need to get a set of the tamiya weathering kits. I've been using pastels for weathering, you have to have a matt clear down or matt paint for the pastels to grab on to and they're far more subtle effects though the nice thing with pastels is the variance of color. A simple set of 16 colors and you can shave some off the sticks and create your own colors. It will clean up with water if you dont like the results and when you're done you will need to seal it but go a little heavier than you would because most clear coats will fade the effect.
The model is gorgeous, but I dispute the claimed scale (based on the figure size). It looks closer to 1/48, especially when Norm has his hand close to the cockpit. Definitely on my wish list!
Probably not. The forces needed to accelerate and decelerate the wings as they move back and forth don't scale up very well and start to break as you get bigger than small models. Theoretically some magical space age super material could be strong enough but the helicopter design is right there and will always be more reliable so why not just build those.
@@Red0Leader Maybe we will someday have space age materials in the future. Got to try diffderent things even if they dont work. Nothing is learned that way, no harm in trying.
Meganeuropis Dragonfly had 1 meter wingspan. But It did not buzz like housefly, doing just few strokes per second. It was able to fly only because the atmosphere at that time contained more oxygen than the present 20%.
Research on flapping wing mechanisms is being done rigorously though. Knew people at university who were studying the airflow and lift characteristics for a theoretically strong enough design. While a viable commercial model is nowhere near, we haven't entirely discarded the possibility.
Would be nice to add some heavy chipping on the front and blades, for the sandstorms can eat through space age metal.. also, no mud..whatsoever.. LOVE YOUR BUILD! Keep surprising us!
If the 'thopters were part of the equipment the Atreides brought with them when they assumed control of Arrakis, they wouldn't have had time to become heavily chipped, even if you assume that protective finishes hadn't become any more durable in the interval between our time and theirs. One aspect that I think could be expanded on is that all of the gunmetal areas -- the landing gear, the weaponry, and the wings -- all disappear into blobs; going back in and detailing tonal variations, like shadows in the recesses and highlights on the upper edges, different shades of metal on different sections of the weapons, and panel shading (I'm sure you've seen bare-metal aircraft models where the builder has used different types of metallic paint to achieve subtle differences in tone between adjacent panels) on the wings. The weathering that he did was good (although with nothing fixing the weathering powders, he's not going to want to touch the model, lest they start coming off on his fingers, which makes a lot of the articulation useless), but it only touches the surface of what could be done.
@@seanmalloy7249 unrelated comment.. I kind of wished Spece Age civilizations would have some really cool material engeneering, and develop some very light but sturdy alloys... They had lots of shields and force fields going on, so who knows if plates or sturdy would even be a spec... Dune has such cool world building!!
@@guilhermereis9520 I have to agree; materials science should have advanced along with everything else. Shields and force fields are all well and good, but they're all dependent on power sources. Now, you can handwave it by deciding that your energy weapons have advanced to the point where armor is effectively useless, but that's been the race with military equipment for centuries, and it's always been a seesaw, with offense and defense trading primacy. Take the shields from Dune; supposedly they make lasguns useless because of the reaction when the beam hits a shield, but if you have a missile designed to carry a single-shot lasgun projector, you could essentially be shooting tacnukes at enemy forces, potentially making shields for armies a liability.
Kind of funny- this flying machine actually takes its inspiration from dragonflies, not birds, and dragonflies belong to ANISOPTERA, thus this machine is more properly an anisopter. Wonder why they didn’t call it that? 😸
Do you have a video about doing washes? I was really hoping that wouldn't have been sped up. I'm only learning to do washes now. Also, what did you use for a clear coat to avoid disrupting the colour if the model is handled? Great job though! I got their smaller version just before they released this larger one.
okay, I'm going to have to grab the Atredies ornithopter. Does it include panels for the windows? If not, i'm kinda surprised you didn't cut some out of some of the clear plastic quick
Would've loved a better look at the wash being applied. The time lapse isn't very helpful. Would much prefer that thing Adam does where he shows a few short, punctual clips that help me witness the action while still saving time. Appreciate the video! The paint job looks great!
I bought files to 3d print one of these out and got midway, but the ball joints for the wings really degrade fast, might have to get one of these kits instead. Was a great kit but yeah, abs like resin doesn't hold up to moving around. Also getting the windows was something I was working on, the best clear resin I found has printing issues. This one's way bigger which might be nice, though not much space to display stuff lol. Also finding a dust free spot to airbrush kinda sucks.
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Looks like the design is based on the anatomy of a Damsel/Dragon fly. I feel you are giving too much thought as to the weathering. Adam basically slaps it in. Maybe that experience. Less is more.
I was so looking forward to watching this to learn from you but disappointed that you skipped over so many learning moments. I am new to this hobby and so this directly effects my life, i am saddened that i missed out on a teaching moment. Not to say you did not cover some great stuff but you skipped over what i wanted to learn.
@@valdeezycleaver i agree, it is 😁🤣😂. But i did not say it was crucial to my life or that i was limited to getting the info here. I know there are other channels that speak to what was skipped. But it was so refreshing to see this content title especially after i just finished a pirate ship and tank that i had specific questions on weathering, starting with a wash and i wanted to learn it here on this channel. But that was skipped over.
For a hundred and twenty-five bucks, I would be expecting not to have to fix the landing gear with a 44 gallon drum of sprue goo. Pass. Also, I would be expecting neo-feudal nobility to keep their private transports clean, if not their military vehicles. Tanks end up that dirty in the desert, but aircraft in that state may develop "flying errors"...
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The forward areas would be sandblasted to show more metal due to direction of flight and the back side of surfaces would have build up. Link the back of a car after driving a dusty road. You've done it the opposite. It's amazing work regardless.
I was thinking for myself I also would have focused more on which areas are in contact with the environment stagnantly, like the landing gear, for more heavy grime accumulation. Whereas areas that would be in movement, like the ornithopters wings, particularly the tips, would be regularly cleaned and maintained. The contrast is what matters though, like you said, even though Norm approach this differently than we would it still looks good in its own right. The difficulty would come if you had multiple pieces, without a coherent vision of what should wear and accumulate.
You've come so far since some of your earlier painting and weathering attempts, this looks excellent, hanging around with Adam and Kayte has definitely paid off.
as a fellow modeller I really compliment your work and oustanding filming and enthusiasm Norm, big fan of your work
Im so glad that the crafting/modeling parts of this channel get more and more love! Please do RC Cars and Custom Mechanical Keyboards!
I love that there’s both landing gears retracted and deployed, I wish this had retracted and deployed weapon systems as well, would’ve been 10/10 for me. Super excited, this is the first plaid model kit I’ve ordered can’t wait to paint it up and zoom it around hehe
Loved this video. I really like Adam, but its certainly fun and refreshing to hear a different voice, personality, building style, etc.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I’m not a huge Dune fan but weathering stuff is so cool & interesting 🖤
A clay wash could be useful on something like this too. Water based, effectively paint it on, leave it to dry a bit, then wipe it off with a slightly damp sponge. As such it'll get into all the recesses, but also leaves a dusty/matt finish.
I'm also planning on using the tamiya powders for some chipping and wear and tear, as they have metallics which if you're careful with, you can pick out an edge, so it looks worn, but fairly natural.
Also want to put some smoke/oil around the moving parts and exhaust vents
"This is happy making" - Norm is becoming the Bob Ross of model kits and I'm here for it
There is THE guy on UA-cam, scale models, tanks and stuff, @NightShiftScaleModels ... chef's kiss on weathering.
I just finished the Lego let of this kit and it was fantastic the wings move an everything
Love it. Thanks for posting this. I just ordered this kit and am weathering the Atreides Ornithopter right now. And yes, I'll be trying the Tamiya A weathering set for the first time too. Thanks for the motivation.
Thanks, Norm, the weathering made such an amazing impact, you did a great job of it and the commentary and videography, too.
The kit with your weathering came out so nice. I love it.
Blappy here. Great stuff Norm! You should bring it to Wonderfest next year.
I had no idea they made these! I'd only seen the small ones that just seem too small, but this is a great size. I like what you've done with your one.
Nice! It would be huge in my favorite scale (1/48th).
Amazing new stuff, for me, for painting & weathering. Many thanx 👍👍
I've assembled both of the 1/72 Atreides and Harkonnen Ornithopters, and honestly they seem to be a little bit overscaled. The cockpits feel too spacious, compared to the movie, so I think you could just add an 1/48 cockpit with figures and could argue that it is a 1/48 model.
Norm is like the Bob Ross of model painting , he has this calm excitement 👍
This is a great format. Nice one Norm
Great to watch Norm do a build! Beautiful kit and great job on the paint and weathering 😊also music gave me blade runner vibes!
This makes miss your Lego videos something fierce. Love watching you build things!
Thanks for this Norm, cracking job there - I have the Tamiya Weatheri g Master sets but have yet to crack one open. This is looking g very nice.
Awesome mate
Everything you do is fantastic.
Big one was a bit too pricey, but Norm's enthusiasm inspired me to try the smaller build. Cant wait to play.
The small versions are awful.
Your passion and voice reminds me of Bob Ross. Great video!
You should check out the ProAcryle Newsh product. Turns normal acrylic paints into basically an oil wash but without the tinners. Also the Dirty Down paint effects for rust is just magic
This video is about as exciting as watching paint dry. (see what I did there??) 🤣🤣🤣
I'm going to just have to bite the bullet and buy one of the Meng kits. They look great!
Gorgeous paint and weathering job. I don't know which is better, seeing the finish product or hearing Norm's enthusiasm! Very cool!
I need to get a set of the tamiya weathering kits. I've been using pastels for weathering, you have to have a matt clear down or matt paint for the pastels to grab on to and they're far more subtle effects though the nice thing with pastels is the variance of color. A simple set of 16 colors and you can shave some off the sticks and create your own colors. It will clean up with water if you dont like the results and when you're done you will need to seal it but go a little heavier than you would because most clear coats will fade the effect.
All you need is a pair of nippers... *casual Godhand* :P
loving Norm channeling his inner Bob Ross when weathering
Great work norm sir 😊❤
As much as I love seeing Adam building and weathering models, I never knew Norm was so wonderfully talented in the same field!
Respect, Norm!
Great Tee!
In the year 10191, OD green is still somehow the go-to color for the military. Like in 1990, we had to paint a shi* load of tanks tan.
The model is gorgeous, but I dispute the claimed scale (based on the figure size). It looks closer to 1/48, especially when Norm has his hand close to the cockpit.
Definitely on my wish list!
I've often wondered if someday we could actually build for real something like this.
Probably not. The forces needed to accelerate and decelerate the wings as they move back and forth don't scale up very well and start to break as you get bigger than small models. Theoretically some magical space age super material could be strong enough but the helicopter design is right there and will always be more reliable so why not just build those.
@@Red0Leader Maybe we will someday have space age materials in the future. Got to try diffderent things even if they dont work. Nothing is learned that way, no harm in trying.
Meganeuropis Dragonfly had 1 meter wingspan. But It did not buzz like housefly, doing just few strokes per second. It was able to fly only because the atmosphere at that time contained more oxygen than the present 20%.
Research on flapping wing mechanisms is being done rigorously though. Knew people at university who were studying the airflow and lift characteristics for a theoretically strong enough design. While a viable commercial model is nowhere near, we haven't entirely discarded the possibility.
@@Red0Leader Also, this kind of mechanism would be very susceptible to ingress of particles … like sand.
Bob Ross Jr 😂 Love it !
Ha! Got the same happy tree vibes.
Best tip I can give is to watch Warhammer painters like Richard Grey work their magic.
Very nicely done
Applying this powder with a moistened brush can work as well, for another variation on its effects.
Would be nice to add some heavy chipping on the front and blades, for the sandstorms can eat through space age metal.. also, no mud..whatsoever.. LOVE YOUR BUILD! Keep surprising us!
If the 'thopters were part of the equipment the Atreides brought with them when they assumed control of Arrakis, they wouldn't have had time to become heavily chipped, even if you assume that protective finishes hadn't become any more durable in the interval between our time and theirs.
One aspect that I think could be expanded on is that all of the gunmetal areas -- the landing gear, the weaponry, and the wings -- all disappear into blobs; going back in and detailing tonal variations, like shadows in the recesses and highlights on the upper edges, different shades of metal on different sections of the weapons, and panel shading (I'm sure you've seen bare-metal aircraft models where the builder has used different types of metallic paint to achieve subtle differences in tone between adjacent panels) on the wings.
The weathering that he did was good (although with nothing fixing the weathering powders, he's not going to want to touch the model, lest they start coming off on his fingers, which makes a lot of the articulation useless), but it only touches the surface of what could be done.
@@seanmalloy7249 unrelated comment.. I kind of wished Spece Age civilizations would have some really cool material engeneering, and develop some very light but sturdy alloys... They had lots of shields and force fields going on, so who knows if plates or sturdy would even be a spec... Dune has such cool world building!!
@@guilhermereis9520 I have to agree; materials science should have advanced along with everything else. Shields and force fields are all well and good, but they're all dependent on power sources. Now, you can handwave it by deciding that your energy weapons have advanced to the point where armor is effectively useless, but that's been the race with military equipment for centuries, and it's always been a seesaw, with offense and defense trading primacy. Take the shields from Dune; supposedly they make lasguns useless because of the reaction when the beam hits a shield, but if you have a missile designed to carry a single-shot lasgun projector, you could essentially be shooting tacnukes at enemy forces, potentially making shields for armies a liability.
In my mind, the Harkonnen machines would be really beat; the Atreides' wouldn't. I guess I'm buying both.😂
Nice work Norm.
Amazing work!
Kind of funny- this flying machine actually takes its inspiration from dragonflies, not birds, and dragonflies belong to ANISOPTERA, thus this machine is more properly an anisopter. Wonder why they didn’t call it that? 😸
Norm needs regularly scheduled content
I like that thumbnail. Up close painting with a brush and no paint on it 😂.
I think miniatures should’ve been used for the ornithopters in the films, with CGI only being used for the blades, that would’ve looked incredible.
Do you have a video about doing washes? I was really hoping that wouldn't have been sped up. I'm only learning to do washes now. Also, what did you use for a clear coat to avoid disrupting the colour if the model is handled? Great job though! I got their smaller version just before they released this larger one.
okay, I'm going to have to grab the Atredies ornithopter. Does it include panels for the windows? If not, i'm kinda surprised you didn't cut some out of some of the clear plastic quick
I’m not worthy. Bravo.
Love it.✌️
I think the background music reminds me of Mr. Rogers.
Norm try military camo face paint kit for weathering. works extremely well.
Is there a reason why the windows were left out? Otherwise fantastic!
That was my immediate draw when I saw the model; without the canopy glazing it looks unfinished.
because he is planning put a top coat on it after the weathering..
I went from "I want this" to "maybe not..." real fast when I saw the price. They are cool though :D
You should give AK weathering pencils a try
Looks brill but needs windscreens to finish it.
Neat
Would've loved a better look at the wash being applied. The time lapse isn't very helpful. Would much prefer that thing Adam does where he shows a few short, punctual clips that help me witness the action while still saving time. Appreciate the video! The paint job looks great!
Dude almost has his Bob Ross going on in this one.
I bought files to 3d print one of these out and got midway, but the ball joints for the wings really degrade fast, might have to get one of these kits instead. Was a great kit but yeah, abs like resin doesn't hold up to moving around.
Also getting the windows was something I was working on, the best clear resin I found has printing issues. This one's way bigger which might be nice, though not much space to display stuff lol. Also finding a dust free spot to airbrush kinda sucks.
Quick question. Did you seal the model after weathering it and, if so, what did you use? Thanks, mate!
Mr Hobby Matt clearcoat!
@@tested Thank you! Loved the sand weathering techniques by the way. It turned out looking fantastic!
Wondering why you didn't fit the windshields? was it just so we could see the internal details?
There’s a great Lego version of this. Kit 10327
this model kit is awesome, but I'm disappointed that there is no model kit of the fremen 2 seat ornithopter... It's my favorite.
I use dollar store eye shadow powder😂
Unintentional ASMR XD
Do you have any good suggestions for a MH-53e model?
I have the smaller version. Excessively fragile. Building harvester now.
Yeah, but the wings don't flap when you squeeze the tail like the lego one.
Is there any glass for the windows??
🤙🏾🤙🏾🤙🏾🤙🏾
How do you seal in the powders or do they just rub off if you handle the model?
for delicate models i use mr hobby matt clear to seal the paint!
Would a real one ever fly? I think the vibrations would destroy it within the first few minutes!
How is this kit compared to Bandai kits?
Could one of these actually work if we had the materials and technology?
What color is sand ? Green?
If u have any questions on gundam model kit type of material, whether it's painting or modification, I'd be more then happy to give you any advice or help u may need
God damn, what was in that sh*t, meng?
I never had no dope like that
before in my life, meng. iykyk
gotta putty those seams, man....
Looks like the design is based on the anatomy of a Damsel/Dragon fly. I feel you are giving too much thought as to the weathering. Adam basically slaps it in. Maybe that experience.
Less is more.
But will it fly?
Fear not. Fear is the mind killer
I don't like sand. It's coarse and irritating.
It also gets everywhere.
No glasses???
the sped-up parts with the wash showed nothing! You couldn't make out anything
now build a real one
I have nothing against people who are not Adam Savage. But anytime I click on a video from this channel and it's not Adam, I'm always disappointed ;-;
Norm created this channel.
Low key feel the same
I was so looking forward to watching this to learn from you but disappointed that you skipped over so many learning moments. I am new to this hobby and so this directly effects my life, i am saddened that i missed out on a teaching moment. Not to say you did not cover some great stuff but you skipped over what i wanted to learn.
“This directly affects my life” is such a hilarious thing to say in this context.
@@valdeezycleaver i agree, it is 😁🤣😂. But i did not say it was crucial to my life or that i was limited to getting the info here. I know there are other channels that speak to what was skipped. But it was so refreshing to see this content title especially after i just finished a pirate ship and tank that i had specific questions on weathering, starting with a wash and i wanted to learn it here on this channel. But that was skipped over.
Where is Adam???? This is UNACCEPTABLE. Bring Adam back. Pleeeeeeeeeze!
Adam is in almost every video. Norm has been on the channel longer than Adam has.
dune sucks
$25 model kits are now $75. Glad I have a good stock up of old kits and didn't really want this one. Also why I bought a 3D printer.
For a hundred and twenty-five bucks, I would be expecting not to have to fix the landing gear with a 44 gallon drum of sprue goo. Pass.
Also, I would be expecting neo-feudal nobility to keep their private transports clean, if not their military vehicles. Tanks end up that dirty in the desert, but aircraft in that state may develop "flying errors"...